Islamerica, Eurabia and Eurasia

burqaObama has claimed that the United States is “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.” While the actual number of Muslims is in dispute, Islamerica is no match for Eurabia or Eurasia.

Europe has 44 million Muslims. If Turkey crawls into the European Union, that number will climb to 118 million. That’s more than double the number of Latinos in America.

If Obama decided to take in all of Syria and Somalia, just to be extra generous, his Islamerica still wouldn’t have a hope in hell of catching up to Eurabia or to the Eurasian Union.

The new evil empire in the east isn’t the USSR; it’s Eurasia, a replacement for the Warsaw Pact that turns away from the troubled economies of Eastern Europe toward the population-rich and resource-rich Muslim republics providing a growing share of Russia’s military and labor force.

The Eurasian Union, which is to include Russia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and possibly Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, is on track for 2015. A Eurasian Union would double Russia’s Muslim population and triple it if Putin is able to bring all the members he wants into his own EU.

These numbers are only placeholders. The real numbers are powered by demographic change. The Muslim birth rate is double that of the Russian birth rate. A similar situation exists in Europe.

Some demographers are forecasting a Muslim majority in Russia by 2050. Europe’s Muslim population is projected to hit 58 million by 2030. By 2050, the United Kingdom and France could have majority Muslim populations if current birth rates as well as immigration and welfare policies continue.

A Muslim population race might seem irrational, but consider that those same numbers also forecast that a Muslim Great Britain will be the biggest country in Europe by 2050. Going from the UK to the UC, from a United Kingdom to a United Caliphate, would seem like a poor tradeoff just for sheer size, but with low birth rates, weak economies and a lack of local energy, there is no shortage of experts who think that bringing in immigrants with high birth rates and lots of youthful energy is the answer.

If Americans find that attitude baffling, they might want to consider how much bipartisan support there is for amnesty and open borders among their political and expert classes. The men at the top have done the math, or at least some of the math, and determined that current birth rates mean an impossible tilt in entitlements spending as too many younger workers collapse under the burden of an aging population that failed to have enough children because it put its faith in government instead of family.

The two EUs, the European Union and the Eurasian Union, are trying to solve the problems of low birth rates and decadent societies the same way that we are. The difference is that their favorite brand of immigrant is even more destructive and dangerous.

European and Russian leaders are thinking in terms of quantity rather than quality. That’s the same mistake our leaders have made. Everyone is looking forward to competing with China by having 500 million people, without really thinking about who those people will be or noticing that there are shrinking numbers of workers and entrepreneurs off the dole who are doing any actual competing.

Chinese leaders know that a large population is a weakness that invites disharmony. The People’s Republic of China, like its ancestor regimes, seeks to balance growth with stability. It would never occur to it to import millions of hostile strangers. It has a Great Wall and an ample historical memory to remind it of all the times it fell apart from internal tensions and barbarian invasions.

Russia’s Eurasian Union is less foolish than the European Union because it is a tyranny and exercises close control over its Muslim (and non-Muslims) population. There is little tolerance in Russia for the likes of an Anjem Choudary who would sooner or later be the victim of a “mugging” by an assailant in a black leather coat with a silenced pistol. But a vehement critic of Islam might meet the same fate.

The Eurasian Union is a less dishonest version of the European Union, dispensing with the nonsense and getting right to the point. It recognizes that Muslim demographics are inevitable and wants to harness them for regional power while having little interest in the first EU’s obsessions with Green Energy or human rights. It won’t even bother with the fake elections whose results the first EU ignores.

Both EUs are leagues ahead of Islamerica when it comes to sheer self-destructiveness, but Islamerica is still in the race. The 2.6 million Muslims of 2010 America will hit 6.2 million by 2030. Those numbers aren’t as catastrophic as anything coming out of London or Moscow, but numbers can be tricky things. Population growth has a way of sneaking up on you even with a perfectly predictable growth trend.

Europe did not pay very much attention to the Muslim demographic bomb because the numbers were at first too slight and the only places to notice their effects were in the streets of working class towns. And then the numbers seemed too inevitable to do anything about except mumble reassuring things about integration.

America is still at that opening stage where the numbers seem to be too slight to be worth worrying about. Even 6.2 million doesn’t seem worrisome in a country as large as the United States of America. And that is a dangerous oversight. Demographic bombs don’t go off overnight. They tick away as they double and double again until, like interest rates and the march of time, they explode in your face.

The European and Eurasian Unions confuse large Muslim populations with international influence. Obama made that same mistake when he asserted proudly that the United States was one of the world’s biggest Muslim countries. Having a large Muslim minority is a source of conflict, not power.

Advanced countries with large Muslim minority populations include the United States, France, Thailand and Israel. In all of these countries, the Muslim minority has been an explosive element spurring conflict, terrorism and cycles of violence that are never broken.

China understands that stability is more important than size. The younger world powers trying to compete with it would do well to learn that simple lesson.

Eurabia, Eurasia and Islamerica aren’t the future. They’re multicultural roadmaps to national suicide.


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  • bluffcreek1967

    I think the upheaval we’re currently seeing in Europe between the muslims and white westerners is a forewarning what will occur here in the U.S. within the next 10 to 15 years (maybe even sooner?). Whether we like it or not, we are being forced into a showdown with Islam – and we better be prepared to fight hard and dirty.

    We will have two major foes to contend with: The muslim hordes who will refuse to assimilate and long for our destruction – and – the many white Leftists who will aid and abet the muslims in their efforts. My hope is that in our attempt to save the last vestiges of this nation, patriotic Americans will destroy them both.

    • nomoretraitors

      “My hope is that in our attempt to save the last vestiges of this nation, patriotic Americans will destroy them both”
      I hope you’re right, but the results of the last 2 presidential elections leave me in serious doubt

    • Confederate Cash

      Youve hit the nail on the head. And this “showdown” is exactly what countless Americans fear, specifically the pacisfists among us, which is why they refuse to acknowledge the islamic threat. These liberal “useful idiots” would rather fight you and me, than prevent islamists from overtaking our Republic.
      If that mindset doesnt dramatically change in the coming 5-10 years (I.e Americans waking up! to the islamic threat) then the only recourse will be self preservation and the seperation of the US by States that secede.

    • cacslewisfan

      You called it. Can I give this a double thumbs up?

    • Drakken

      You forgot the 3rd component, inner city black hoards. I see strife and a Balkans on steroids coming, it will start in Europe and quickly spread here. the one thing that we have going for us is that we have the arms and the will to use them if it becomes necessary.

  • DogmaelJones1

    Another facet of the Europe’s “assimilation” into an Islamic caliphate are the efforts of the European Union to quash all dissent by white Europeans against Muslim immigration and “cultural” accommodation. The proposed Statute for the “Promotion of Tolerance” for the European Parliament will target not Muslims but non-Muslims for 24/7 monitoring of what is said about Islam and Muslims. That is to say, Europeans will be expected to be “tolerant” while Muslims will be exempt from “tolerance” and will not be prosecuted for anything they say about religion or European culture. Yes, that and past concessions to Muslims are formulas for national suicide.

    • defcon 4

      The inherent and explicit Jew hatred in Islam for some reason, never qualifies as hate speech. I’m sure if someone in the UK were to rant and rave about muslimes being the descendants of apes and swine that the collaborators in their “justice” system wouldn’t look the other way.

    • Drakken

      It is a formula to a Balkans on steroids, the natives are getting rather restless much to the govts in power horror and fear. This does not end well.

    • kikorikid

      The Muslim Brotherhood said,”Civilization Jihad-Creeping Shariah”.

  • Jason

    Russia, especially Putin, is not stupid enough to treat Muslims like the West does. Russia has had to deal with Chechnya and Dagestan, as well as Central Asian countries that were Muslim majorities in the USSR. Expect more of a subjugated minority than anything else from this Eurasian union.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Demographics mean that a power shift is still inevitable. Especially once much of the military turns Muslim.

      • defcon 4

        It’s too bad the Christians who are being murdered and persecuted by muslimes aren’t considered refugees by any Europeon state or the United States of 0bamastan. I wonder if the Christian populations of the Mid-East and N. Africa aren’t going to disappear, either from genocide or ethnic cleansing or both at the hands of islam0fascists.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          Already disappearing in the ME

        • Jason

          It’s a damn shame, you’re right. I would have no problem taking in Christian refugees, because I know they would assimilate. Hell, any religion would assimilate, except for Islam. Not just America and Europe who dont take Christian refugees, Australia doesn’t either. Pathetic.

      • ziggy zoggy

        The welfare checks to the Central Asian Stans ended when Gorbachev did. They can barely feed themselves even with outside help. They won’t overwhelm Russia.

        • defcon 4

          20% of Russia is already muslime, the same percentage as in India. If that percentage is increasing, it’s only bad news.

          • ziggy zoggy

            I don’t understand why India puts up with its islamopithecines. The Hindus hate them and know what they do to every society they infest but they are allowed to get away with murder.

  • Gus

    Just for the record, 2/3 of the 44 millions muslims are “blue eye, white” native Europeans located in the Balkans (Bosnia, Albania, Bulgaria, + all the muslim turkic minorities in Poland, Ukraine, Romania, …) and Caucasus. The vast majority are secular despite Saudi efforts to make them inclined to Wahabbism ! The problematic ones are the arab migrants that are as different from the native european muslims than a US citizen from a let say a catholic CostaRican.

    • monostor

      They are less relevant for the topic of the article than the muslims in the UK, France, Belgium and other Western European countries who are relatively recent immigrants from the former Asian and North African colonies because they are anything but assimilated, anything but secular.

    • N. Wasse

      The real problems are really the Arab wannabes from Pakistan and India as there is just too many of them and Somalis are next in line then the Arabs .

      • defcon 4

        Who flew two planes into the WTC on 9-11? Who bombed the WTC in the early 1990’s? Who were the Beltway Snipers? Who committed the Colorado movie theater shooting?

        • N. Wasse

          Oh there is no doubt that you make a good point. However who spend so much time in prisons trying to spread the religion of the Arab in this country? They are the Pakis for sure. And I think that this is more damaging, in the long term, to this country than anything else. Can you imagine murderers and killers converting to Islam and finding other reasons to justify their criminal deeds and it is called Jihad?

          • TienBing

            Pakis? They could be Martians – who cares? It’s the message.

          • N. Wasse

            Sorry you need to know your enemy and our enemy are not the Martians

          • TienBing

            Islam is the enemy – Pakis are a local flavor who should be understood in context – no one is arguing. The point is regardless of national origin Muslims are trouble and their death cult is a threat.

      • Drakken

        The problem is islam, where ever islam goes, the blood always flows, without exception. At least the buddist’s in Burma are taking care of business.

        • defcon 4

          They should be supported in their efforts, after all, the corrupt a-holes in the US government and Eurabia have no problems silently affirming the genocide and ethnic cleansing being committed by muslimes all over the world in the here and now.

        • N. Wasse

          Yes Islam is the problem but we also have to deal with the messenger

          • Drakken

            Eliminate the mosque and mullah by whatever means necessary, it puts a huge dent in the islam problem, then start eliminating those fat Saudi bastards and we will be on to something.

    • defcon 4

      Um, who committed the Boston marathon bombing again? Who committed the slaughter at Beslan (an elementary school)? Who was responsible for the slaughter that unfolded at a Moscow movie theater? Who was responsible for the terrorism at a Colorado movie theater?

    • Drakken

      You haven’t been to these countries lately have you? Bosnia is arming up as we speak to take over the Serb and Croatia areas and is being flooded with Saudi petrodoallars and fire breathing mullahs and brand new shiny mosques. The Romanians and Bulgarians don’t tolerate the muslims especially when they get a little uppity and know their place, otherwise they get dead. Same with the Ukraine, they just make the jihadist mullahs and followers disappear in the middle of the night, problem solved. As a matter of fact many eastern European countries do the same thing, that is why islam is not making the inroads that it is making in the west. I give those of the eastern European side some credit, they don’t talk about it, and bitch and whine, and moan about it, they just take care of the problem and call it a day. Something that we need to take heed too.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Good points. Eastern Europeans know what it’s like to live under communists and islamopithecines. They know how to deal with them.

    • TienBing

      Contrary to the popular narrative, which is widely promulgated by Mohammedan apologists, Wahabbism is not the first or the only source for the doctrine of Islamic supremacism. It is spelled out in the Koran. The “blue eye, white” Muslim native Europeans have had their own jihads in the past and are just as susceptible as their Arab co-religionists to having more in the future.

  • Raibeart MacIlleathain

    Suicide is a wonderful thing. Just go gently into that good night.

    • Sekigahara

      “suicide is painless, it brings on many changes”

      • Raibeart MacIlleathain

        Yes, and it’s change you live with forever.

    • defcon 4

      But who wants to walk the road to hell alone?

  • Athling

    Great piece Daniel!

    This immigration nightmare underway in Europe and the US makes perfect sense and seems to be a wonderful idea for Big Business.

    This provides them with a large pool of cheap labor which also helps to drive wages down across the board. This is a great idea for the mammon-worshipping corportists who see a nation as nothing more than geographic boundaries in which to conduct business at maximum profit.

    What good is all this though if you end up losing your nation in the bargain? The problem is that they have been blinded by their lust for the almighty dollar and cannot see the very real impact of forcing the native population into competition for jobs with low-wage 3rd World immigrants to say nothing of the cultural conflict caused by pooling radically different people in the same geographic domain. The competition then spreads into other areas such as housing, places in public schools and universities, getting medical treatment in a timely fashion, and so on. There is also a transforming cultural struggle as each group seeks to impose its worldview, religion, ideologies, and political beliefs on the other.

    “But but… we don’t have enough people to sustain our economic model,” the corportists say.

    Throughout history the demography of nations has run in cycles. Population numbers will rise and fall due to famine, plague, or war, but this can and has been dealt with by adjusting the economic model in accordance with the current demographics that you have not by importing waves of foreign people. This way you don’t risk losing your country by having it transformed into the countries the immigrants left behind.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Yes I’ve often said this in the past

    • A Z

      Yes business wants cheap labor, so they want immigrants. When the immigrants kids grow up and want more, business people will rinse and repeat.

      Pay now or pay later.

      Big business just does not want to pay, period.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Only the worst companies want immigrant labor. Immigrants tend to be hopelessly incompetent employees. Think of every customer service agent you’ve been subjected to on your phone. Most companies want to stay in business and know that hiring the worst the world has to offer is a sure fire way to go bankrupt.

      Cheaper isn’t better. Smart executives know that.

    • Texas Patriot

      Well said, and very true.

  • Confederate Cash

    There soon needs to be a reckoning in the US as to the muslim population bomb. Muslims make up <2% of our population yet they have a huge power hold in Husseins administration.
    Educating the numb masses of Americans is the key to changing public perception of this eminent islamic threat. If the UK failed to do it, America must and will.

    • laura

      they wont. done deal.

  • Jake-a-runi

    Out of a practical curiosity, is there or is there not an obvious Constitutional obstacle to declaring persons affiliated with a hostile international political organization non grata and summarily expelling them, something similar to what was done to anarchist and socialist revolutionaries in 1919?

    • Texas Patriot

      JAR: “Out of a practical curiosity, is there or is there not an obvious Constitutional obstacle to declaring persons affiliated with a hostile international political organization non grata and summarily expelling them, something similar to what was done to anarchist and socialist revolutionaries in 1919?”

      The most obvious remedy under existing law would be a judicial declaration that such persons were affiliated with a banned RICO organization.

      “The RICO Act focuses specifically on racketeering, and it allows the leaders of a syndicate to be tried for the crimes which they ordered others to do or assisted them, closing a perceived loophole that allowed someone who told a man to, for example, murder, to be exempt from the trial because he did not actually commit the crime personally.

      RICO was enacted by section 901(a) of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970 (Pub.L. 91–452, 84 Stat. 922, enacted October 15, 1970). RICO is codified as Chapter 96 of Title 18 of the United States Code, 18 U.S.C. § 1961–1968. While its original use in the 1970s was to prosecute the Mafia as well as others who were actively engaged in organized crime, its later application has been more widespread.

      Under RICO, a person who is a member of an enterprise that has committed any two of 35 crimes—27 federal crimes and 8 state crimes—within a 10-year period can be charged with racketeering. Those found guilty of racketeering can be fined up to $25,000 and sentenced to 20 years in prison per racketeering count. In addition, the racketeer must forfeit all ill-gotten gains and interest in any business gained through a pattern of “racketeering activity.” RICO also permits a private individual harmed by the actions of such an enterprise to file a civil suit; if successful, the individual can collect treble damages (damages in triple the amount of actual/compensatory damages).”

      • Jake-a-runi

        Thanks Tex.
        I don’t want them locked up, I want them locked out. I want the USofA to be a beacon of freedom, dignity and intellectualism, just in case the rest of the planet succumbs.
        FWIW, the modifier under God inserted in our Pledge of Allegiance in 1954 to confound the godless communists (!?) could become free from theocracy, to intimidate those who follow the Religion of Pirates, sort of like swearing loyalty while standing upon the hide of a freshly slaughtered hog.

        • Texas Patriot

          I don’t know of any other religion that authorizes, if not requires, discrimination and violence against non-members as a part of its official doctrine.

          • defcon 4

            A discrimination that takes the form of oppression and persecution.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Communist Control Act

  • 2wotvet

    Interesting how Muslims have been sneakily taking control of America
    for years now, and yet, they still have almost no influence, even with a Muslim
    president. What have they done? Gotten some colleges to serve halal food in
    their dinning commons, built a few small mosques in cities in the Midwest, championed a short-lived reality TV series about Muslims that no one remembers. Where are the true acts of Islam? Where are the synagogue burnings? Where are the gangs of Muslim men forcing American girls to convert to Islam under threat of death or rape? Where are the street mobs showing support of Al Qaeda? Why do Muslim girls still wear tight jeans and live?

    • Jake-a-runi

      Population density. But don’t be caught wearing a crucifix or walking a dog near a mosque in Dearborn.

      Overall, they haven’t reached critical mass. The hoi polloi may come across as impulsive, ignorant savages, but their guiding lights (specifically like the Muslim Brotherhood) appear confidently patient. Their strategy is demographic, their weapon of choice the Islamic uterus. This is why it is essential that their demographic presence within our beloved country, if not our hemisphere, be maintained at a level of zero.

    • defcon 4

      Do muslime girls still wear tight jeans and live? I can think of at least three honor killings in the United States and I’m sure, considering the duplicitous nature of Dearbornistan’s authorities, there are others. Of the three honor killings, only ONE was successfully prosecuted.

      • 2wotvet

        So few? There are millions of Muslims in America, the number of reported honor killings should at least be in the hundreds, even with the attempts of the Dearborn Dhimmis and CAIR to cover them up.

        • TienBing

          What is the acceptable number per 300 million? If the Thuggee have a revival would we accept a minimal number of ritual murders before we decided that the religion that demands such activity be banned?

      • Whirlwinder

        Sarah and Amina Said were killed by their father for being too Americanized. They lived in Lewisville, TX. Said’s wife and son were complicit in getting the sisters to return home for their murder.The Said’s have never been brought to justice and are probably living under the protection of some mosque.

    • TienBing

      The point is to preempt the behavior, not wait for, or actually encourage it to happen, then mewl about the horror.

    • vladdy1

      check out mb in all parts of u.s. gov — high security positions

    • defcon 4

      Who blew up four synagogues in the 21st century? Muslimes: two in Turkey (on the same day), two in Argentina. Who is burning down and blowing up churches in the 21st century? Muslimes: in Nigeria and Egypt.

  • Softly Bob

    Big isn’t always best. Israel has just 8 million people or so, but for its size is an economic and military powerhouse. you don’t need 500 million people to compete with China, you just need solidarity and some good ideas.

  • M.T. Aziz

    Islam is on the march throughout the world. Not only do we boast higher birthrates, but Europeans and Americans are converting at record rates. The Divine Truth is spreading through this hateful, decadent world, and those of you who try to stop it must realize that forsake Allah’s compassion and mercy but rather incur His wrath. Inshallah, the day is soon coming when the adhan will be heard from every major city in the so-called “Western world,” and the dignity of women, nature, and morality will be restored to your decadent lands.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      The dignity of women… like in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan?

      Morality like the Sex Jihad in Syria?

    • JoJoJams

      Yes, we can look at every single “islamic” nation in this world to see just how it all will turn out to be. Trading “decadence” for ignorance, poverty and the thugocracy of theocratic and despotic regimes. One only needs to look around this world for the “fruits” of the tree of islam – and it’s a bitter and putrid fruit. You can take your sick arab supremecists “religion” and stick it where the sun doesn’t shine.

    • Drakken

      You haven’t incurred our infidels wrath yet, but you will and when you savages are running for your lives, you will know that allah isn’t going to save your azz. We infidels shall be playing a new game called cowboys and muslims, God Bless the Crusades!

    • defcon 4

      And the blood of the unbelievers and apostates will run red through the streets.

    • A Z

      If Westerners had no commerce with Muslims countries from 1700 or 1800 onward, Muslims would still be in the iron age and they would still be kiIIing one another.

      As it is colonization just puts off the Muslim demise.

      Instead of kiIIing of your countries, you are going for the whole thing. You will kiII mankind.

      “We had to kiII the ummah to save the ummah” – Mohamed Mohamed

    • ziggy zoggy

      Yeah, but you molest petting zoo animals when you’re not spanking it to Burka Derka online. Nobody is going to listen to you.

    • vladdy1

      Not true about converts (willing) in America — mainly Nation of Islam in prisons.

      • ServosT

        Islam is like a street gang. You can join, but they get viscous if you ever want to leave.

    • Ace

      Islam is nothing but parasitic savagery. When Westerners run out of patience, Muslims will be returned to their glorious homelands and they will go either voluntarily or at the point of a bayonet. Keep your bags packed, rafiq.

      • defcon 4

        There are plenty of collaborators who will be allying w/the muslimes to destroy the rest of us opposed to islam0nazism.

    • ServosT

      How many car bombings will it take for Islam to flourish in the west? How many honor killings and acid attacks on women before the dignity of women is restored? Will “Convert, Submit, or Die” be codified into law when the muslim horde becomes irresistible?

      Islam is the Fascist movement of today. It took the free world sometime before it reacted to Hitler’s aggression, it might take longer for the world elites to see Islam for the hideous ideology that it is, but regular people are coming out of our stupor.

    • JTK

      As a first step, I would deport and ban from entering Western
      countries everybody named Muhammad.
      This should solve a half of the problem immediately.

    • Robin-Frans Winkel

      In Syria, Muslims kill Muslims. It makes more sense for YOU to convert. Hell is eternal.

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  • alihusaini

    Emmmmm, fear.

  • Mr.Ha Ha Ha!

    Kudos to Daniel Greenfield and FPM, the new Der Stuermer! Julius Streicher would be proud. FPM has fear, smut, hate, libel. Instead of Judaism, Jews, Torah and Talmud, you have Islam, Muslims, Quran and Ahadeeth.

  • mtnhikerdude

    Mark Steyn in his book “America Alone’ revealed the truth … They are winning by demographics . Buy stock in burka stores.

  • T.L. Winslow

    I think Obama meant Indonesia not the U.S., but doesn’t he wish :)
    The religion whose believers butcher each other daily and claims to be the answer to world peace, just his cup of tea :)

  • A Z

    ” there is no shortage of experts who think that bringing in immigrants with high birth rates and lots of youthful energy is the answer.”

    One word to describe such people: F_____s!

    Daniel Greenfield wrote this article

    It’s Not Fecundophobia, It’s Familyphobia

    “The media has become a big influence on peoples lives. Researchers have linked birth rates to the number of children depicted as the norm on entertainment programs like soap operas and sitcoms. There are actually signs of this taking effect in Latin America.”

    On one hand we have the above fact. We also have Zero Population Growth (ZPG now) people running around on one hand starting in the 1960s if not earlier. I saw a documentary of a young college aged woman giving speeches on a tour of college campi telling people to limit their children in the 1960s. It was in black and white.

    I would so love to know the name of the documentary and of the woman. It pays to have a dictionary when reading and to have pen and paper handy when watching TV.

    On the other hand “experts” are telling us that we need immigrants for youth and vitality.

    These contradictory themes and policies coming from the left make you want to scream. It is insane. It is like watching a horror movie when the camera angle closes in and you know something bad is going to happen. Except something bad is going happen and it is real life, you know it is coming and there is nothing you can do about it.

    We need do not need immigration. We just need taxes low enough so that people can thrive. We also need Hollywood thespians to quite propagandizing us. If we had such a situation people would naturally have 3 kids or there abouts.

    Ever notice how the 1990s sound from white artists came out of Seattle? It is no accident. It was prosperous, middle class with no big city problems. People thrived. People were not ground down and had time to be creative. Now Seattle is California North. Say good bye to you and energy. Higher taxes and big government are there now and a red state became blue. If you like the 1990s sound you might consider the demographics, social policy, tax policy, etc that produced it.

    • A Z

      ZPG is now rebranded as Population Connection, because ZPG sounds to much like big government and central planning. Besides everyone wants to be connected, sociable. A year or year and a half ago they were all over the radio with soft sell PSAs.

      The liberals behind ZPG are just as stupid as the AGW people.

      Limit your nations family sizes by hook or by crook so we don’t overpopulated this country or planet, but then the same group/faction also promotes immigration polices that double or triple the nations policies.

      Sound familiar?

      Like cutting back CO2, via 5 year plans and tanking the country. Only to have every other nation. take up the slack, double sdown and exponentially increase CO2 emissions.

      Same tactic by the same group of people.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “Like cutting back CO2, via 5 year plans and tanking the country. Only to have every other nation. take up the slack, double sdown and exponentially increase CO2 emissions.”

        You know it’s a scam because they all agree that according to principals of “social justice” it’s fair for developing economies to pollute away as they catch up to us.

        Fair? Really? Do they pay us for developing these technologies in the first place? Really? No, not really.

        Social justice is just another communist phrase to make your brain go to mush while they spew these insane justifications that are all supposed to trigger “white guilt” or “colonial guilt” which they’ve also ensured you’re prone to accept without so much as a whimper in protest.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Seattle sucks now? Damn. I lived there back in the 90s and loved it. I’ve always meant to move back.

      The Deep South may be the only real part of America still here.

      • A Z

        My opinion is that all large cities become controlled by Democrats.
        For example Bob Filner became mayor of San Diego. It should never have happened. James d’Orma “Dorm” Braman was the last Republican mayor (1964 – 1969).

        You get all the transplants from California that are looking for cleaner, safer, and cheaper place to live. Yet they will vote Democrat and taxes will go up.

        You have all the usual leftist BS. The renamed Chinatown into the International district, because it was more inclusive. The police chief let G20 and OWS run wild.

        I would consider it better than Portland with their smart growth effort. but if the left has some initiative somewhere else, they will eventually import it to Seattle.

        • ziggy zoggy

          Seattle was pretty far left when I moved away in 1997. Strangely though, the police department was a goon squad like L.A.’s. The crime ridden Central District was ignored but Capitol Hill was crawling with cops who persecuted the gays. When protesters marched against the WTO back in 1999, the cops ignored the anarchists smashing a Starbucks, etc. and beat the crap out of the peaceful (albeit obnoxious) protesters.

          I guess I should do some research.

          • A Z

            Why would the cops persecute the gays? That does not seem career enhancing especially nowadays (but 10 years makes a big difference). Granted I think the lifestyle is a sickness, but unless they are breaking a law I do not see the need to persecute them.

            Obnoxious, will always get you beat down.

            I would have more respect for police, if they beat down the violent protesters and the thugs of the capital district.

          • defcon 4

            Just imagine what the police force in Dearbornistan, Michigan is like. I wouldn’t want to be a najjis kaffir under their jurisdiction.

  • GSR

    The only way to avoid this is to lower all forms of immigration – legal, illegal, student visas, so called “temporary work visas”, etc. Who’s willing to support this?
    I am. I’m not saying stop all immigration; I’m saying LOWER the numbers, especially of the family/relatives of admitted immigrants. And enforce the law, deport illegal immigrants. Period.

    • Jake-a-runi

      Immigration from high birthrate cultures should have been terminated two generations ago.

      People ridicule Malthus and Ehrlick because increased crop yields averted the foreseen famines. But all has not been rescued. Should the much-maligned global warming phenomenon actually result in shifted rainfall patterns, the famines may yet occur, on a much vaster scale, as grain production from U.S., Canadian and Ukrainian grain belts plummets.

      Aside from ad hoc humanitarian considerations, why do we entertain immigration at all? What’s the point?

  • Bill

    “Advanced countries with large Muslim minority populations include the United States, France, Thailand and Israel. In all of these countries, the Muslim minority has been an explosive element spurring conflict, terrorism and cycles of violence that are never broken.”

    Civil war is Islam’s modus operandi which is why:

    -Bing/Google search “civil wars in the world” and then research who fights in them: 80% of involve Muslims. They fight against all cultures and religions. They fight in China, Russia, Bosnia, Dagestan, Bangladesh, Cyprus, Macedonia, Israel, Pakistan, India, Indonesia-Ambon & Halmarhera, Côte d’Ivoire, Kashmir, Algeria,
    Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, Sudan, Ethiopia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Kurdistan,
    Kirghizia, Nigeria, Philippines, Somalia, Turkey, Chechnya, Sudan, Yemen,
    Thailand, Uganda, Syria, Iran, Azerbaijan, Mali, Chad, Syria, Libya, Bangladesh
    and East Timor.

  • eyenou

    Hurrah to the new Der Stuermer.Julius Streicher would be so proud of an acolyte like Daniel Greenfield.Instead of Judaism,Jews,Torah and Talmud in the old Der Stuermer,the likes of Daniel have substituted Islam,Muslims,Quran and Ahadeeth.As the Der Stuermer of old,FPM uses fear,smut,libel and hate to sway the already rabidly hateful fools just as its predecessor had done.

    • defcon 4

      Yeah stupid, it’s not like anyone has noticed muslimes slaughtering, raping, kidnapping and persecuting non-muslims throughout the entire world.

  • DeShawn

    Man, if I had to choose, I’d rather live under Muslim rule than this jewish TYRRANY we live under now. But of course none of the nonsense y’all post on here about Muslims looking to take over the world is true. That’s what you call jewish projection. Down with jewish supremacism!

  • Gunilla Skoglund

    An update. Europe has 80 million muslim now, 90 % of them live on welfare, muslims are responsible for 90 % of all rapes and violent crimes, 95 % of them claimed refugee status but only came for the welfare money. EU states want to bring in Turkey with its 80 million muslims, every one of them would move up into Europe. A collapse is soon going to happen, beyond the daily riots and insurgencies in EU.

  • defcon 4

    I’m certain it’s not that funny — at least to the islam0nazis who would prefer their atrocities and persecution go unreported. Maybe that’s why islam0nazis are desperate to have free speech outlawed in the US.

  • LindaRivera

    ‘UK think that bringing in immigrants with high birth rates and lots of youthful energy is the answer.’ This is the LIE given for criminally overpopulating and colonizing TINY Britain with millions of Muslims from HUGE Muslim countries. Muslim immigrants were NEVER required to work. 50% of Muslim males don’t work and 75% of Muslim females don’t work. Muslims are given free money, free homes, free healthcare and luxury items.

    Via their taxes, Britons have been turned into a slave-worker class forced to provide for Muslims and their huge families. Some Muslim families have been given free huge homes in the wealthiest areas of London. UK leaders DESPISE Britons.

    Desperate homeless vets and other homeless Britons live on the streets, DENIED HELP. Because of Muslim colonization Britain and Europe are NO longer safe
    to live in. Join Paul Weston’s counter-jihad party, Liberty GB

  • LindaRivera

    Scandal of 3million elderly living in fear of how to stay warm this winter
    ALMOST a third of all pensioners are worried about keeping themselves warm this winter.

    The money that BELONGS to British pensioners who worked their entire lives contributing to the system, has been GIVEN AWAY to Muslim immigrants who were NEVER required to work!
    Muslims have huge numbers of children they claim benefits for. Children they could NEVER AFFORD to have if they had to support them themselves. Muslims brag on the internet that via their huge numbers of children they are going to achieve Muslim conquest of Britain. ENSLAVING Britons under vile woman-hater, barbaric Islamic sharia law.
    Join Paul Weston’s counter-jihad political party, LIBERTY GB

    Why Is This Not Treason? by Paul Weston, Liberty GB

    • Robin-Frans Winkel

      On the other hand, having huge numbers of children will mean there will be not enough non-Muslim girls available for the Muslim boys in the foreseeable future.

  • defcon 4

    Neither does Canada nor does New Zealand. Maybe Western Civilisation deserves to die.

  • Drakken

    Hey dumbazz, name one jewish tyranny? Oh that is right you can’t because non exist. There are many islamaniac tyrannies though, but someone who is as smart as a bag of hammers will have to figure that out the hard way, life is tough, it is tougher if your stupid.

  • iluvisrael

    it’s deformed the weak little girly man

  • defcon 4

    Didn’t you write you were studying physics at the doctoral level?

  • UCSPanther

    Then go right ahead…

  • ServosT

    Yeah, those damned Jews and their evil plot to take over 1/2 of 1% of the World. How dare they not share their massive land of Isreal with those peace loving and bomb strapped Arabs!

  • Omar

    Excuse me, but this website is about politics. Either stay on topic or find another website to chat on.