Islam’s World War Came to Boston


COMP_34_406038bAfter the capture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Obama asked, “Why did young men who grew up and studied here, as part of our communities and our country, resort to such violence?”

Despite the scholarships and the positive press, the money and the good times that came their way, the Tsarnaevs were never truly part of our communities or our country. As the words of a Jihadist song in Dzhokhar’s playlist go, “Be in this temporary world a stranger/Infidels rule the earth/for the faithful life is torture.”

Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were strangers. Tamerlan had an American wife and Dzhokhar had plenty of American friends but they chose to treat a city and a nation that had taken them in as targets in a terrorist war. As infidels who deserved nothing more than to be lied to and killed.

The Tsarnaevs weren’t insane. Nor were they nihilists looking to go out with a bang just for the kicks. Their social media accounts reveal the world of two men who had strong beliefs and commitments. These beliefs and commitments however were not to this country. They were to the Islamic Ummah.

Two months before his killing spree, Tamerlan reproved another Muslim for not believing. Unlike him, Tamerlan believed. What he believed in was not the mere nationalism of a land that he had never lived in. If Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had only wanted Chechen independence, they could have joined the fight there. But if the thought ever crossed their minds, they were reoriented in another direction.

To Americans, the Chechen Jihadists, the Syrian rebels, the Palestinian terrorists, the Afghan Taliban and the Mali Turaeg fighters all represent national struggles. To Muslims, they are all local manifestations of a global struggle between Islam and the world. For the Tsarnaevs, Chechnya wasn’t any different than Afghanistan, Nigeria, Thailand, America or any other theater of battle in a world war. Instead of trying to fight a war in a country he had never seen, Tamerlan Tsarnaev was dispatched or dispatched himself to fight a battle in the country that he knew best.

In Obama’s speech, the willingness of the Tsarnaev brothers to kill the people of the country they had grown up in is a paradox. But it isn’t a paradox; it’s the point.

Communists in America undermined the country not just because they saw it as the greatest villain, but because Communists in every nation were committed to undermining it in order to remake it. Each Communist movement was fighting a local front in a transnational struggle. For Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev their local front was not Chechnya; it was Boston.

Chechnya to the Tsarnaevs represented the Islamic transnationalism of the Jihadist that transcended nations. Their Chechen nationalism, like Hamas’ Palestinian nationalism and the Syrian nationalism of the rebel brigades linked to the Muslim Brotherhood derived from a common Islamic identity. It could have no meaning without Islam.

Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev carried out the marathon massacre not because they were on the outside, but because they were on the inside. Islamic terrorism was their way of expressing their American identity. When they detonated bombs at the Boston Marathon, they weren’t doing it as Chechen Muslims, but as American Muslims.

Like Anwar al-Awlaki and Nidal Hasan, they wanted an American identity that would be based on Islam in the same way that Chechen identity was based on Islam. They wanted it because they believed it to be the only possible way of making America over into a country that would reflect their own values.

There is a reason why second and third generation Muslims are more likely to turn terrorist than their immigrant parents. It is because they have become American, British, Canadian and Australian part of the way. They have gone deep enough to begin making a claim on the country. The Western Islamist seeks to align his internal Islamic identity and his external national identity by unifying them through Islamization.

Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were not fighting for Chechnya at the Boston Marathon. They were fighting against the American infidels who were barring the way to an Islamic America. They were fighting to make America like Chechnya. Islam is not just a religion. It is a political system. You cannot expect a devout Muslim to live as an American, the same way that you could not expect a Communist, Nazi or any other consuming political identity to just keep it private or local. To think that way is to truly misunderstand Islam.

Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev did not become radicalized. They became religious. They embraced a transnational ideology which applied not only to them, their mosque or their community, but to the entire world. Eventually the discontinuity between their beliefs and the life of the city around them became too great to be tolerated. And so the Tsarnaevs, inspired in no small part by the Islamist culture that they found on the internet and perhaps at their own radical mosque, set out to resolve the conflict through terrible violence.

The two brothers were showered with educational and financial advantages. The United States took them in as refugees. The City of Cambridge awarded Dzhokhar a $2,500 scholarship. Tamerlan aspired to be a boxer and found a woman who loved him enough to take his religion. They lived the good life, but it wasn’t enough. It could never be enough.

The liberals who refuse to see what the Tsarnaev brothers stood for passionately believe in the things that they think it will take to make the world a better place. The Tsarnaevs believed that only one thing was necessary; Islam.

Islam was born out of war and terror. It spread through the sword and the slave. Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were not the disciples of some imaginary religion of peace, but a religion of war. What they did was horrifying, but not surprising. They were taking part in a world war that had begun over a thousand years ago.

They did not expect to strike the finishing blow; just another blow to bring America closer to the form of submission known as Islam. Like other Muslim terrorists operating in the countless theaters of the world war, from Asia to Africa to the Middle East to Australia and America, they sought to shock and horrify, to break our will to resist and force us to submit.

“He it is who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist.” Koran 61:9

In Boston the infidels resisted the messengers of Mohammed and Allah. They patched up the wounded and saved as many as they could. They hunted down the messengers and shot them. But more will come. They will speak the language of our popular culture and their classmates will remember them as nice young men. No one will understand what caused such nice young men to do it except other nice young men like them who feel the tension between Islam and America inside them waiting to break.

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  • crackerjack

    I fail to see the significant difference between the Boston killings and Oklahoma City, Columbine, Colorado, Wisconsin, Connecticut, Minneapolis etc. Deranged psychopaths committing indiscriminate mass murder has long become a regular part of US culture. Should we excuse the psychopath by accepting his "motivation" ?

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "I fail to see the significant difference between the Boston killings and Oklahoma City, Columbine, Colorado, Wisconsin, Connecticut, Minneapolis etc. Deranged psychopaths committing indiscriminate mass murder has long become a regular part of US culture."

      Why does the FBI do psych profiles on criminals even after they are caught and imprisoned? To find the next ones before they do their damage. You have a problem with this approach? Where did y our fatalism come from?

      Shall I say allah akbar with cheese to you, or are you just another crackpot?

      "Should we excuse the psychopath by accepting his "motivation" ?"

      Where did you get that idea? Who is excusing anyone? Analysis is not excuse-making except in certain (ahem…leftist) circles.

    • UCSPanther

      You're just upset that that the attempts to re-animate the dead Clinton gun ban failed. Too bad for you…

    • Chezwick

      Oklahoma City and Boston are certainly distinct from Arizona, Colorado and Connecticut….and your inability to ascertain as much is proof positive of the political blinders that corrupt your vision.

      Arizona, Colorado and Connecticut were certainly the work of "deranged psychopaths". Oklahoma City and Boston were deliberate acts of mass murder based upon political (and in the case of Boston, religious) beliefs. Get a clue.

      • Cat K

        Again, -There is the possibility that McVeigh had involvement with Iraqis in USA- perhaps was used by them and certainly he returned from serving in the military with anti-American beliefs. I don't think he fits in a category, if there can be such a thing, with the killers at Columbine.
        Teenaged killers on sprees seem to be involved in a fantasy life where they take the video game into the real world and actually kill people. While they may hate their school, community or parents this is hardly the same as targeting America due to leftist or Islamic political/religious beliefs.
        It is not so smart to lump these people together. Nidal Hassan was not "going postal" at work. He was following his faith/politics to the letter.
        This is the why Immigration is such an important issue.

    • Asher

      The culture of death proceeds in its Jihad against the West! Did the FBI drop the ball getting info on the Brothers?

    • Annie Oakley

      The difference is in the motivation. I don't deny that these men are sociopaths or psychopaths, but ask yourself WHY they were/are that way. What made them that way? What made the Ft, Hood killer that way, even though he was a psychiatrist? What made the shoe-bomber & underwear bomber that way? What made the 9/11 hijackers that way? What is the most likely common denominator? It is islam. It is the fact that for centuries now, islam has specialized in taking normal infant human males and reliably turning them into raging sociopaths and psychopaths. The muslim women are no better, either, though they are probably less personally dangerous simply because archaic customs physically limit their freedom of movement in society. The muslim women proudly raise their sons to be killers, and when they are old enough, the sons are handed off to the fathers and the local mosques for further molding into future killers.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      How can you tell apart from WW2 from the Mexican War?

    • defcon 4

      Dark Knight CO shooter has already converted to islam and already stated his murder of people in the movie theater part of his personal jihad. Nice try at obfuscating that fact.

    • JacksonPearson

      "I fail to see the significant difference between the Boston killings and Oklahoma City, Columbine, Colorado, Wisconsin, Connecticut, Minneapolis etc. Deranged psychopaths committing indiscriminate mass murder has long become a regular part of US culture. Should we excuse the psychopath by accepting his "motivation" ?"

      That's because you have had your head stuck so far up your colon, that you haven't smelled fresh, free, American air. Your interpretation of "Islam means peace," is the equivalent of "Nice doggy."

    • Oren Elbaz

      What a shallow and lazy perspective you submit.

      The Boston bombers, unlike all the others you have mentioned, did not act as lone wolfs. They were supported by a doctrine of hate which grants religious credence to their actions, and by an entire community which celebrates the event as a victory (I am referring to the reaction in the middle east). The Oklahoma city or Colorado terrorists, on the other hand, enjoyed no such support, not from any religious leaders, and certainly not from their communities.

      This support, which the Islamist enjoy, is very significant. It transcends the threat to the level of an existential one. In nations which their is a sizable Muslim community, such events are liable to escalate into a civil war.

      This is why rational people are so concerned with Islamic terrorism, and why brain-dead leftists choose to look away.

    • EarlyBird

      CrackerJack,

      The "significant difference" is the difference between an accidental airplane crash and 9/11. There is a piece of Islam which is at war with the West and modernity in general. We must acknowledge that and fight them. The first part of it is recognizing that we do in fact have an organized enemy. Not to investigate these guys as jihadists, is to do nothing to try to prevent future attacks.

      Yes, these guys (particularly the older brother) were obviously angry, alienated, sociopathic, etc. But that is exactly the kind of personality radical Islam recruits to do damage. These guys were jihadists, not just run of the mill nuts.

      • defcon 4

        The ole' it's only a few radicalized muslimes meme repackaged. It's strange that all muslime states persecute people of other faiths though — considering their populations are mostly muslime, it makes it hard to believe it's only a few who are interested in doing so.

        • EarlyBird

          You're an idiot.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            He's not the idiot here. I could actually agree with 80% of your comment a couple up the thread. But really, he was spot on.

          • EarlyBird

            Roger, let me know why it was Canadian Muslims who tipped off law enforcement and helped them disrupt the recent plot to blow up the Canadian railway, if all Muslims are in league with the devil. Why would they help the good guys?

            In fact, it is local Muslim communities which have often helped police identify plots.

            The hyper-reactionary, xenophobic attitudes towards ALL Muslims on this board is not only wretched, but counter-productive to our war.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Bird let me know why muslims knew who the two were in Boston and didn't come forward and tell the authorities until they had already been named.

            You're just lying here on this one.
            And our self preservation demands we see islam as the evil that it really is.
            9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

          • EarlyBird

            Bulls**t. Where did you even get that piece of "information" rightwingnews.com?

            Do you know that the Cambridge mosque kicked him out because he was so radical? Do you know that the older Tsarnev interrupted the imam during two Friday sermons, one where the imam was praising Martin Luther King, Jr's peacefulness, and another where he was encouraging Muslims to celebrate American holidays as they were compatible with Islam?

            You're the lying because it's easier to simply lump every Muslim together with terrorists. AND, mostly, because that's the position your tribe requires of you. To think for yourself makes you a Godless communist or something.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It's common knowledge. All night they had the video up and nobody called, it wasn't until the guy found his boat strap cut that they nailed him.

            And the islamic community said nothing.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Roger, let me know why it was Canadian Muslims who tipped off law enforcement and helped them disrupt the recent plot to blow up the Canadian railway, if all Muslims are in league with the devil. Why would they help the good guys? "

            It blows me away how you can repeat the same stupid themes time after time. We've wasted so much time explaining things to you but it's like you can't read with any significant comprehension.

            "In fact, it is local Muslim communities which have often helped police identify plots."

            It's actually quite rare.

            "The hyper-reactionary, xenophobic attitudes towards ALL Muslims on this board is not only wretched, but counter-productive to our war."

            Well if anyone else raised the question I might have a bit more patience. For you, it's a waste of my time.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I guess the muslims in Canada don't hate their country the way the muslims in the US seem to hate us. Are the Canadians going the way of Europe?

    • Omar

      crackerjack, I don't know exactly where you are going in this but you seem to repeat leftist/Islamist propaganda against American society. Do us a favor and keep your ignorance to yourself.

    • Stephen Carter

      That's absurd. Islamists who commit violent acts are not psychopaths. They're behaving in a manner totally consistent with the ideology of their primary identity: Islam. The other attacks were by individuals who were not acting in accord with a system of beliefs. They may even have acted on specific beliefs, but any such beliefs were in direct contradiction to their Western identity. Such Western psychopaths will always be a minuscule minority; the Islamists who strike for Islam will likely grow and swell …

    • onepornqueen

      Go away, Wee.

  • Hugh Embriaco

    Even if we were to concede that Islam is a purely political movement, which it is not, you will never find, in any very large political movement, complete agreement as to the tactics that should be used to advance the cause. Some will favor violence, some will be adamantly against violence, because there is such a thing as natural law, and it demonstrates itself in the various schools of Islam, and the various interpretations of the Koran.

    There is a strong political overlay in Islam, just as there is a strong political overlay among some Christians, because of the extreme depravity of the world, and the felt need to resist this depravity, not merely by seeking religious conversion, but by political activism. Honesly, Daniel, you've written essays that critique modern Western morals that sound not unlike some of the criticisms of Sayyid Qutb. Yes, the Muslim wants Islam to be the world's only religion, and the whole world to live under Islam, but he does not necessarily want this end to be achieved by violence, terror, or even by political means. This is like conflating the atheist Zionism of Theodore Herzl, and the Zionist political concept of Aliyah, with the Orthodox religious sense.

    • Luis Monge

      Both comments still fail to see why Islam is a more pressing matter here. First you mention the tactics used by religions and among political movements often do not agree amongst themselves on how to proceed to advance their political ideology. Well I will tell you one thing, you read the Qur'an chapter 9 verse 5 and see what is being commanded of Islam's holy book to all muslims. Read Chapter 9 verse 29, chapter 4 verse 89, chapter 5 verse 51, and so many others that are not even open to interpretation but are direct commands to all muslims who bother to pay attention to their religion and become devout. Because becoming devout is all you really need to become a terrorist in Islam. The media always talk about Islamic Extremists, when they should realize Islam is extreme. Have you ever bothered to look at the ratio both national and international islamic terrorist attack to that of any other ideology in contrast ? of what ideology do you think we have more attacks from ? Ask that of France, Germany, Spain, Sweeden, look at the numbers. I often wonder how many terrorist attacks it will take for everyone to see where the problem is, identify it and resolve it, but we are too caught up in our political correctness to admit it. Islam is the ideology that is the greatest threat to peace and to anything not islamic. Keep trying to live in the fantasy world where none of this is related to that and their is a huge explanation as to why. All you need to do is ask and read why to know the motivation of a terrorist, specially in the case of the Boston bombing, even the Aunt said it, "no he is not devout, he only started praying 5 times a day, the last two years". If that is not devout muslim I don't know what is. But some will say how bigoted of you to say things like this without having read one verse of the Qur'an or its teachings.

      • Joeb

        Islam is not extreme, it is just Islam. These two were not doing anything 'extreme' as far as Islam is concerned, just carrying out perfectly normal, permissible, everyday Islamic business. Which includes killing non Muslims, as prescribed in numerous places throughout islamic doctrine.

        It's very simple:

        They are NOT extremists, just good, pious Muslims.

      • Hugh Embriaco

        You’ll find the same kind of incriminating passages in the Talmud.

        People are usually not motivated directly by Holy Books anyway, but by the preaching of fanatics.

        There are fanatic Islamic preachers allowed to spread their poison in America. This is a real problem that must be addressed. But there are also many Islamic preachers, teachers, scholars, and leaders that routinely come out to condemn the killing of innocents after terrorist attacks in America. After 9/11, virtually the whole Muslim world leadership came out to condemn the attacks; and they stood nothing to gain from doing so.

        • stern

          "After 9/11, virtually the whole Muslim world leadership came out to condemn the attacks". They did that rather quietly, because virtually the whole non-Muslim world seems to have missed it. And so did most of the Muslim world, because too many Muslims continue to preach what the Quran tells them to do to the infidels.

          As for comparing this to the Talmud, firstly, that's nonsense, based on incorrect – deliberate – mistranslations. And secondly, how many Rabbis do you see calling on their followers to kill non-Jews in order to get into heaven?

        • Caped_Crusader

          Right, Hugh. And that's why we see so many acts of Jewish terrorism around the world, ha. Give us a break. Got to wonder about you apologists and what you stand to gain from stepping forth with your nonsense. Islam's imperative to spread itself through violence is embedded in its DNA: the Qur'an, Haddiths and other teachings. UNLIKE Talmudic law, these are NOT subject to reform, debate or refutation, which are, in fact, punishable offenses. How convenient, right? The more you learn about Islam (and, really, you should start ), the more you will appreciate the genius of all the safeguards it's put into place to assure its own self-perpetuation: Easy to join it, extremely hard to leave it (look up the apostasy laws), forbidden to question or criticize its ways, etc. BTW, you're full of it on another front: There was scant outcry from the moderate Muslim world as a result of 9/11, other than to point fingers at Jewish conspiracies and the like. But who can blame them; they know better than anyone the dangers of speaking out against their more observant brethren.

          • Hugh Embriaco

            Either you don't understand what Daniel is saying, or you don't understand what I'm saying.

            There are two positions that people take on the internet: 1. Every Muslim is a terrorist, or potential terrorist, because this is what Islam teaches (Daniel's position); 2. Islam has nothing whatever to do with the motivations of Muslim terrorists (MSNBC's position).

            I reject both positions. As a Catholic who has travelled extensively in Asia, I have seen horrible atrocities committed by Muslims against Christians. But there are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, and the overwhelming majority of them will never resort to terrorism. As I said in my original comments, they may resort to barbaric and uncivilized practices, but that does not make them terrorists.

            Daniel then brings up the history of Islamic conquests. So I brought up the history of European conquests: Charlemagne baptising 16,000 Saxons in one day at the point of a sword; or the 1204 sack of Constantinople by the Fourth Crusade, where thousands of innocents were wantonly murdered; or the colonial expansionism, etc.

          • reader

            You're comparing apples to oranges. Essentially, Islam has much more in common with Marxism than Judeo-Christian system of beliefs. Both actually decree violent conquest against infidels-unbelievers in one case and those corrupted with bourgeois mentality – aka unbelievers – in the other.

          • Hugh Embriaco

            I am not comparing anyone's BELIEFS to anyone else's beliefs. I am comparing Realpolitik of one empire with the Realpolitik of another empire.

            If Islam can be compared to Marxism, then you must realize that there are non-violent Marxists who have been infinitely more successful than violent Marxists: namely, the Frankfurt School, whose ideas have basically overrun the West. Most Imams understand that Islam will eventually triumph through demographics. That's one of many reasons they have to reject terrorism as a means of advancing their cause.

          • reader

            In what way non-violent Marxists are successful, I'd like to know? Of course, they can be successful in only one way – brainwashing ignorant and destroying functional economies. As an alternative to market economy, Marxism cannot offer anything, because it is incompatible with the Natural Law and, hence, the laws of economics. Absolutely the same is true about Islam. Islamist regimes are predominantly failed ones. Even the ones that accumulated oil wealth did so only because the West created demand for the oil.

        • defcon 4

          Commandments to kill unbelievers are part and parcel of islam. The hadith have no less than three verses advocating for the extermination of Jews.

        • defcon 4

          WRT the Talmud, is this an argument by false false equivalence? Or a falsified tu quoque argument?

        • Drakken

          The problem with your line of thinking is, the devote of islam don't care about the so called peaceful ones, the inherant violence of islam always reigns supreme and always has. Soon it isn't going to matter how peaceful some islamist are, because to leave them to their own devices will be to our western detrement. We may not be at war with islam, yet, but islam is on the march and at war with us and sooner or later when we awake from the PC mentality of COEXIST, we will bring them the martyerdom they desire with our compliments.

        • tabby93640

          "After 9/11, virtually the whole Muslim world leadership came out to condemn the attacks; and they stood nothing to gain from doing so."

          Actually, I would say to stood to gain quite a bit. Since it is permissible and even encouraged to lie to non-believers when attempting to advance the cause of Islam, it is actually what I expect the Muslim world leadership to do! In this way they gain our trust, buying time.

          And it's not like this is some new tactic, they got it straight from the prophet himself:

          Muhammad wanted poet Ka'b bin al-Ashraf murdered, so his men pretended they had turned against Muhammad, gained Ka'bs trust and then killed him.

          Muhammad signed a 10-year treaty with the Meccans allowing him access to their city while he prepared for a takeover.

          Muhammad pretended to seek peace with Usayr ibn Zarim, convincing him to leave safety to meet for peace talks and then killing him and his 30 companions.

          And in our day:
          Yassir Arafat told us he wanted peace with Israel, then worked his people into hateful mobs.

          The 9/11 hijackers went into bars and drank so that others would not suspect their intent.
          And lied to the plane passengers telling them, there was "a bomb" but everyone will "be safe" as long as their "demands are met."

          The so called rising up of the Muslim world to condemn these attacks, which I agree with Stern is pretty quiet, is actually the scariest part of all, the more they promise, the more I fear.

          The lady doth protest [promise] too much, methinks………

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "You'll find the same kind of incriminating passages in the Talmud."

          Even if that's true (and I'm not granting that it is) the Talmud is considered commentary, not instructions from God. Nobody reads it as an instruction manual for world domination. At best, it's a "for what it's worth from the wise men of their day." Nobody reads it without knowing that even if they accept it as true, they accept it as that in the limited context in which it was written.

          Your comparison is deceptive, dangerous and dumb.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "People are usually not motivated directly by Holy Books anyway, but by the preaching of fanatics."

          The fanatics have the backing of the holy books, tradition and the history of their movement. You're clueless. Really.

          "There are fanatic Islamic preachers allowed to spread their poison in America. This is a real problem that must be addressed."

          Make your case separately rather than as a defense of Islamic terrorists.

          "After 9/11, virtually the whole Muslim world leadership came out to condemn the attacks; and they stood nothing to gain from doing so."

          How old are you? Who told you this BS? Are you serious?

    • Lan Astaslem

      You're a dhimmi through and true, trained like a seal at an aquarium

    • Cat K

      Um, no one said "purely political." Premise removed. We can all Ignore the rest.
      P.S. Whatever the history of Christianity -in recent times – it has not been violent. And Jews never had an army nor armed response of any size or impact until Modern Israel. Sheesh!I am so tired of this "Christians are terrorists too" BS.

      • Cat K

        For Jews: I referred to during the In diaspora

    • Tina Trent

      It all boils down to what your religion says about the fallenness of the world. Christianity says love and then a great deal more than that regarding how to and how not to conduct one's self. Personal responsibility for morality is the path. This suits western politics because it dialectically created and shaped them. Islam demands a collective violence as its political activism. That is the difference.

    • Edisa

      Problem with your analysis, Hugh, is that the violent political overlay in Islam is with the approval of the religious texts. Political activism among Christians is with NO approval for any kind of violence in activism. Dr. Martin Luther King preached NON-violence for a reason–his faith demanded it–even though the oppression he stood against was severe. So any answer to ending violent political action among Muslims has to involve changing their perception of their texts and changing their perception of religious leaders who advocate violence. "You shall not murder" needs to be seen as standing above their specific texts as a law the texts SHOULD BE submissive to.

      • Hugh Embriaco

        Thank you for the intelligent response. I absolutely agree that the key to solving the problem is to change the Muslim perception of their religious leaders who advocate violence.

        I don't know what religion you are, but as a traditional Catholic, I understand both the danger of interpreting religious texts individually and that hardly anyone is ever motivated to act en masse by a religious text alone. In the history of heresy in Christendom, you always see a charismatic leader first, who uses his interpretation of a religious text to foment trouble.

        It's so absurd to see half-literate and uneducated people quoting the Koran. It's far more important to understand what influential Muslim preachers are saying about those passages in the Koran.

        • defcon 4

          It's not islamic "religious leaders who advocate violence." It's the ideology of islam. Your lies run thin.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "It's not islamic "religious leaders who advocate violence." It's the ideology of islam. Your lies run thin."

            He blames the masses for distorting Christianity during the reign of the most corrupt popes. It's the only way he can maintain the delusion about his church being perfect. He worships the church that tells him how to worship God. He doesn't worship God directly because his church tells him how to think, and he listens to every word as if these humans are God's prophets.

        • reader

          This is what they say:
          "Qur’an has a total of 114 chapters called “”Sura’s” of varying lengths, and a total of 6,666 verses, called “Aya’s”…the total number of chapters or Suras in which direct and explicit references are made towards the Jews include over 50 out of the 114 Suras in total, which constitutes almost 44% of the chapters of the Qur’an. The following is a list of those 50 plus Qur’anic chapters, or Suras, where there are direct references to the Jews and Christians: Sura’s 1-12,14,16-34, 39, 40, 42-46, 56-64, 73, 98, 109, 113 and 114…"(to be continued)

          • reader

            "…In total, some 4,000, or roughly 60% of the 6,666 Aya’s contain either direct or indirect issue of the Jews. Of the direct Aya’s, only 3% (around 200 Aya’s) of this total are somewhat neutral references many of which are later abrogated, leaving 7.5% (or around 500 Aya’s) as attributing some of the ugliest descriptions possible, singling out the Jews as the worst segments of humanity….were we to consider the above exegetically, taking onboard the implicit references as well as the explicit, it would constitute almost two thirds of the entire Qur’an – that is well over 4,000 versus, or 60-64%, which directly refer to the Jews (and Christians) in one way or another, and by a combination of induction and deduction, declare them to be in divinely mandated eternal enmity with the Muslims.” (Eternal Islamic Enmity & the Jews, Al-Maqdisi & Solomon) http://www.amazon.com/Al-Yahud-Eternal-Islamic-En

        • candy

          "the key to solving the problem is to change the Muslim perception of their religious leaders who advocate violence."

          And you think you have the intelligence and the right to dictate and alter a religion,political system and the traditions of millions of people through their leaders ?

          Are you going to forcefully revise their beliefs ? Medicate them ? Please enlighten us to how you plan to retrain religious and political leaders in Iran ,Syria Turkey ,Sudan,Egypt ,Saudi Arabia etcetc to think ,worship ,govern,teach……………in your approved manner.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "And you think you have the intelligence and the right to dictate and alter a religion,political system and the traditions of millions of people through their leaders ? "

            If you believe swallowing poison is good for you, what would you have us do but try to convince you not to?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Are you going to forcefully revise their beliefs ?"

            That's not possible.

            "Medicate them ?"

            Medicating someone is not coercive?

            "Please enlighten us to how you plan to retrain religious and political leaders in Iran ,Syria Turkey ,Sudan,Egypt ,Saudi Arabia etcetc to think ,worship ,govern,teach……………in your approved manner.""

            Each problem has a distinct solution. Become truth-oriented rather than throwing your hands in the air. You're the only one that assumes teaching must be coercive. I wonder if you're a leftist? No, I don't wonder.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "I don't know what religion you are, but as a traditional Catholic, I understand both the danger of interpreting religious texts individually and that hardly anyone is ever motivated to act en masse by a religious text alone. In the history of heresy in Christendom, you always see a charismatic leader first, who uses his interpretation of a religious text to foment trouble. "

          I see. You're a catholic in denial about the history of your church. It was the corrupt leaders who had the texts that lead people astray. It was putting the book in the hands of the masses that destroyed this hegemony of corrupt theology. It was not the fault of "individual readers" but the opposite.

          And this is precisely why Islam is distinct from Christianity: anyone who follows the texts of Christianity without dogmas added will be as peaceful as a dove and a productive member of any Western society at the very least. Anyone who reads and studies the Islamic texts will be a jihadi.

          These are the most salient ideas we are trying to point out and you're trying to obscure them as a way of holding on to the idea that your church is perfect.

          Your God (if you study only the texts of the Hebrew prophets) is perfect. Your church is not.

          • defcon 4

            I've read that the ten commandments have actually been re-written by the CC — I believe the verse taken out has to do w/idol worship.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "I've read that the ten commandments have actually been re-written by the CC — I believe the verse taken out has to do w/idol worship."

            Correct.

          • defcon 4

            I've often wondered what Yeshua and his disciples would of thought of a church dedicated to his teachings that had all the trappings of Imperial Rome. I still think the CC is capable of doing good things in the world — mostly thanks to Robert Spencer.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "I've often wondered what Yeshua and his disciples would of thought of a church dedicated to his teachings that had all the trappings of Imperial Rome. I still think the CC is capable of doing good things in the world — mostly thanks to Robert Spencer."

            Well, it's a man made institution inspired by the Gospel and the Bible. Once it was forced to behave that way, the power that had corrupted some of them began to fade. They are just like any other population of Christians with as much diversity. Just remember that power corrupts. For the most part those that were corrupted were those that were attracted to their positions for the sake of the power.

            Obviously with nearly 17 centuries of history I had to generalize quite a bit. But I think if you begin to look at the history of the church with those words in mind you'll find more or less what I've suggested.

          • Hugh Embriaco

            You're mixing up your analogies. Salafi Islam is analogous to Protestant literalism, which was a result of groups of people reading and interpreting the Bible by themselves. Averroes, Avicenna, and Abu Hanifa (founder of Hanafi) would be more analogous to Catholicism in recognizing the role of human reason in interpreting Scripture. Avicenna, especially, was an elitist who believed that only Muslim scholars had the ability to interpret revelation.

            You clearly know nothing about the history of heresy in Christendom if you think "people who got their hands on the texts" were peaceful. Read something like Ronald Knox's book, "Enthusiasm." Read, for example, about the Circumcellions.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "You clearly know nothing about the history of heresy in Christendom if you think "people who got their hands on the texts" were peaceful. "

            I see you quote like a typical leftist. The texts are calling on erring on the side of peace and due process. Do you deny this as a Catholic?

            The heresy of Christendom. Hah. Said like a true collectivist. We're all heretics. Now what?

            In any case, consider what I've said carefully before you get in to a drawn out argument here. It's not that useful to go there, but we could. Your church is not perfect and wanting to see it as above the fray or superior leads to lots of justifications and distorts one's ability to see history clearly.

    • Info mo

      Hugh , how do you equate Muslim terrorism world wide to Zionism that envisions a Jewish home land just as all faiths have theirs or modern Christian belief in a son of God that called for brotherly love and peace ?
      The Muslim children are indoctrinated in hate in their schools and Mosque's .
      American terrorist's you named are evil minds just in our homeland , Islamic terror is world wide , on every contininent and every country where they immigrate to .

    • JacksonPearson

      Mohammad, Prophet of Islam is known as the "Apostle of Peace" by Moslems. Nothing can be further from the truth.

      When Mohammad first started screaming from the rooftops that he alone had the divine word of God, the people of Mecca ignored him. However, when he started insulting and defaming the religion of the peace loving Meccans, they couldn't take it anymore and tried persuading him to stop. Mohammad was too scared of the growing hostility against him and instead of calling upon his Allah to strike down the Meccans, he crept out one night and fled for his life.

      Ever since that incident, Mohammad was determined to take revenge on the Meccans. He escaped to Medinah, which had a sizeable Jewish population, and started plotting his revenge with a small gang of criminals. This was the beginning of Mohammad's trail of violence, hatred and bloodshed that would soon destroy the culture of Persia, Egyptian. The story has been documented in detail by his biographers, – surprise raids on trade caravans and tribal settlements, the use of plunder thus obtained for recruiting an ever growing army of greedy desperados, assassinations of opponents, blackmail, expulsion and massacre of the Jews of Medinah, attack and enslavement of the Jews of Khayber, rape of women and children, sale of these victims after rape, trickery, treachery and bribery employed to their fullest extent to grow the numbers of his religion Islam which ironically was supposed to mean "Peace"! He organised no less than 86 expeditions, 26 of which he led himself.

      The motives of the converts to Islam was never in any doubt. Of any moralising or demoralising effect that Mohammad's teaching had upon his followers we cannot say with precision. When he was at the head of the Robber community, it is probable that the demoralising influence began to be felt; it was then that men who had never broken an oath learnt that they might evade their obligations, and that men to whom the blood of their clan had been as their own, began to shed it with impunity in the "cause of god". And that lying and treachery in the cause of Islam received divine approval. It was then too that Moslems became distinguished by the obscenity of their language. It was then too, that the coveting of goods and wives possessed by Non-Moslems was avowed without discouragement from the Prophet.

  • Hugh Embriaco

    Furthermore, you cannot conflate ideological violence and terrorism, which is fairly modern, with territorial expansion by war. Most of the European powers engaged in territorial expansion by war, just as Islam spread through North Africa. You cannot criticize the one without the other. Yes, there were small groups that engaged in terrorism, but this was true among Europeans as well; together with the piracy and the slave trade.

    There is no case to be made that Islam is an inherently murderous religion. Barbaric, yes. But not inherently terroristic.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "There is no case to be made that Islam is an inherently murderous religion. Barbaric, yes. But not inherently terroristic."

      It's inherently geared towards dominating the world under sharia. Do you see the problem? Murder just so happens to be a crucial part of their tactics without any sense of justice that does not fit with their sharia worldview. That's pretty much the foundation for making the case that it is inherently murderous.

      See the entire history of Islam in broad strokes at least before you bring your silly moral equivalence tainted philosophies here. If you can't see the differences between Islamic justice and Western justice, Islamic peace and Western peace and so forth, you're a completely duped leftist.

      • Hugh Embriaco

        I never made any argument about moral equivalency. There is a huge difference between Islam and Enlightenment libertarianism, to which you apparently subscribe, and the chasm can never be breached.

        To conclude from this, that everyone who is not an Enlightenment libertarian is a violent terrorist is absurd.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "To conclude from this, that everyone who is not an Enlightenment libertarian is a violent terrorist is absurd."

          Who said that? We're looking for salients. The texts, teaching and traditions of Islam are salient distinctions to teach. This is never more urgent than when someone teaches deceptive ideas.

          We can get nuanced a bit after the salients are defined.

    • Luis Monge

      Read the Qur'an , yes the case can be made that Islam is an inherently terroristic, read the hadith.

    • kafir4life

      islam is a disgusting gutter cult. That's a fact, not an opinion. muslims that are members of islam are terrorists and/or terrorist supporters. Also a fact, not an opinion. sub-human filth. The inventor of islam (mohamat the pig faced dog) was a pedophilic terrorist. Also a fact, not an opinion.

      • EarlyBird

        "muslims that are members of islam are terrorists and/or terrorist supporters."

        Golly, can a Muslim still be a Muslim without being a "member of Islam"?

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Golly, can a Muslim still be a Muslim without being a "member of Islam"?"

          Some Muslims believe so. Do you deny them the right of self-identity?

        • JacksonPearson

          "Golly, can a Muslim still be a Muslim without being a "member of Islam"? "

          Nope. There's no in between. Muslim's must be 100%, or they're considered an infidel.

    • defcon 4

      Yeah, the millions of dead kufrs in the 20th century and the mounting pile of dead kufrs in the 21st century are all just a figment of our imagination.

    • JacksonPearson

      Since Wahhabi and Salafi Islam are identical, and since Wahhabi Islam formed the foundation of all Sunni terrorist groups today, including the Islamic Group and al-Qaeda, a review of Salafism is in order. Salafi, or Ancestor, Islam (Submission) is the Islam of Muhammad
      (Islam's lone prophet and Allah's singular voice). It is the Islam recorded in the Qur'an
      (Recital from ar-Rahman and Allah as passed along exclusively by the Salaf who were Muhammad's Companions). It is the Islam recorded in the Hadith (Oral Reports from the Salaf regarding Muhammad's words and deeds). It is the Islam recorded in the Sira (Ishaq's Biography of Muhammad as it was conveyed through the Salaf). It is the Islam documented in the Ta'rikh (Tabari's History of Islam's Formation as it was lived by the Salaf).

      In direct contradiction to all who apply the "radical" label to the Islam of today's terrorists, the only way for Wahhab or Salaf Muslims to be practicing a corrupted version of Islam, is for Muhammad and his Companions to have gotten Islam wrong. And if that were true, the religion has no basis of any kind. The moment you come to grips with this simple, yet profound, truth, the connection between Islam and terror becomes clear.

      • Christopher C.

        Good for you, Mr Pearson. Your view strikes me as being exactly right.

        • JacksonPearson

          Thank You … :o)

    • Lan Astaslem

      The poor souls murdered on 9/11 would disagree. You are a dim-witted dhimmi.

    • candy

      Please don't drag the African slave trade in as evidence of anything except what it was and still is, a muslim creation .

      Islam spread only by terrorism ,war,forced conversions ,intimidation and financial control. The ENTIRE ME was destroyed by muslims and their quest to dominate .The same in India,the Caucuses and Africa .
      You even ignore the fact that the Crusades were a response to muslim invasions and mass murders .

      And you miss the entire point of the current muslim violence . They are trying to invade every country in the world ,terrorize the citizens into submission and take over the countries . Just as they've done world wide for 1400 years ,and they have succeeded.

      Is every muslim a bomb toting terrorist ? No they don't need to be. They need the "nice" muslims to convert the weak. They need the rape jihadists,the financial ,internet and educational warriors.

      But they will all benefit from their invasions and take overs. It didn't take 15 Hitlers,12 Maos or 9 Lenins to murder millions ,destroy entire countries and tear the world apart.

      • JacksonPearson

        "Please don't drag the African slave trade in as evidence of anything except what it was and still is, a muslim creation ."

        Yes it is, and sadly wealthy Middle East men are still slaving children, mainly little boys from India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan as their sex toys. These children grow up uneducated, sexually abused, with mental problems, and are usually discarded on the streets in their early teens, and must then forge their way in life as beggars.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Furthermore, you cannot conflate ideological violence and terrorism, which is fairly modern, with territorial expansion by war."

      Here we go again. Dude. There's a reason we have a secular constitution written by people who were for the most part Christians. Muslims can't do that and be obedient to their faith. Can you understand that distinction? Can you?

      Therefore everything that follows in the history of the West was the struggle for justice that respected Christianity without coercing people to conform. Islam…doesn't have that.

      And they lie about it. So what we do is make sure people understand the distinctions and remain on the look out for the liars. Once you're clear on all that, you can carry on and defend your local Muslim beer-drinking buddies. We're OK with that once we've warned you about the most salient facts and cleared up the most serious lies.

      It's not about hating people. We're warning and educating about the most important facts that people seem to be very often getting wrong. These lies are leading to many deaths. Can you understand that? Once we've achieved some success at destroying the most critical lies then we can consider the campfire songs at that time.

  • Michael Copeland

    Placards with black battle flag of Islam, London, 2011:
    “Prophet said “The Muslim nation is one nation to the exclusion of all others“…”
    “Muslims are one, our land is one”, “One War”
    (youtube ThinkAfricaPress).

  • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

    The clash of civilizations is indeed out in the open, but it has been on America's shores for years, well before 9/11/01. To be sure, this world war will be like none other – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/12/07/world-war-3s-

    As to their opening shot, this is where it began – http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Articl

    PAST time to face facts.

    Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/

  • Michael Copeland

    “Muslims must kill non-believers wherever they are unless they convert to Islam,”
    Ali Gomaa, Grand Mufti of Egypt, the highest Muslim religious authority in the world.
    http://www.Citizen Warrior.com 20 June 2011.

    • Michael Copeland

      This “violent interpretation” of Islam is based on Koran 9:5

      “Kill unbelievers wherever you find them”

      Denying any verse of the Koran is a capital offence (Manual of Islamic Law o8.7(7)), which can be legally carried out by anyone without penalty “since it is killing someone who deserves to die” (Manual, o8.4).
      What other “interpretation” is available?

  • Pat Dizon

    If only muslims try to read about Jesus even just out of curiosity, then they will know why He is the way,the truth and the life. No more hatred, peace!

    • Michael Copeland

      Kind thought, but in many muslim states, like Saudi Arabia, Kyrgystan, The Maldives, it is an offence to own a Bible. The internet provides the only source.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "If only muslims try to read about Jesus even just out of curiosity, then they will know why He is the way,the truth and the life. No more hatred, peace!"

      Their cult already told them the Islamic view of Jesus is the correct one. It's an uphill battle. Just to warn you.

      • defcon 4

        The islamic Jesus, at least in the Shiite tradition, is a genocidal psychopath, come back to the earth to break the cross and lead a slaughter of everyone who doesn't convert to islam.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "The islamic Jesus, at least in the Shiite tradition, is a genocidal psychopath, come back to the earth to break the cross and lead a slaughter of everyone who doesn't convert to islam."

          The Sunni version is not all that great either.

  • Adam

    "Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev did not become radicalized. They became religious." That is precisely what liberals cannot grasp. They can only comprehend the violence from a Western behavioral science perspective so they must be psychopaths not jihadists (which is just an inner struggle). The parents did not seem shocked and their reaction of blaming the FBI is not the same reaction as say the parents of Columbine or others who are not Islamists.

    • EarlyBird

      That is absolute hateful, disgusting, wretched slander. And illogical on its face. If by simply becoming a religious Muslim one became a terrorist, we'd be having bombs going off every day.

      Of course these guys were jihadis hopped-up on radical Islam (at least the older brother). That's for sure. But that's because he radicalized, not merely religious. We absolutely must make this proper distinction, or we're going to end up un-doing America the way so many right wing fanatics on this board are calling for.

      • Lan Astaslem

        Jerk, read this slowly so that a dimwit like you might understand. They're not all 'terrorists' but large swaths of muslims all over the world are on the side of their radical, murderous co-religionists. There have been numerous surveys done in which muslims proudly take the side of the radicals.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "That is absolute hateful, disgusting, wretched slander. And illogical on its face. "

        You just can't read well enough to follow along. The closer one subscribes to Islamic texts, the closer one comes to being an enemy of non-Muslim sovereignty and a follower of the notion that the world should follow sharia. And it only gets worse from there for everyone who knows that allah is false.

        Now you can deny that if you want. Nobody but nobody will be surprised at this point by anything you say.

      • defcon 4

        Yes and we all know what should happen to those who slander islam don't we Ahmed?

  • Chezwick

    I took my family to a national park yesterday. The weather was beautiful and the crowds were large. In the crowd were large numbers of Muslims, visible by the dress of the women. Most wore head-scarfs covering their hair. Two had full-body burkhas, covering their faces.

    If the number of Muslims present were representative of the general population of my locality, then our area must be 30 to 40% Muslim. Quite a revelation.

    • defcon 4

      Hello Islam, goodbye freedom.

  • Serge Baruch

    Great analysis, Mr Greenfield! Thank you.
    It is high time for people to understand that the Green Banner of Islam has it's most natural allies in the two designs of the Red Banner: the one with hammer and sickle, and another with swastika. But the Left have always vehemently denied their blood connection with Nazism; they always tried to banish their repulsive first cousin, fascism, from the family. And now they have another ugly ideological relative – Islamism. Equally millenarian, equally barbaric, equally unscrupulous.
    So the Left will continue to disguise their appeasement of Islam and collaboration with Mohammedan jihad using hypocritical appeals to peace: they did the same in the 1930s, when Stalin and Hitler signed Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and started the World War by attacking Poland from two opposite directions, while London Lefty chattering classes staged demonstrations against "warmongering Churchill" demanding to leave dashing German Chancellor Adolf Hitler alone. This same tactic they will continue in the regard of Islam, and that is why articles like yours will be more and more important as counterbalance to their propaganda.

  • tanstaafl

    Taquiyya.

  • antisharia

    When, dear God when, will this country finally realize that Muslims don't belong here?

    • EarlyBird

      How about American-born citizens of the US who practice Islam? Do they not belong here? If not, what do we do with them?

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "Do they not belong here?"

        They don't belong anywhere else. They need to be following the constitution.

        "If not, what do we do with them?"

        Prosecute as needed.

        • defcon 4

          The constitute a fifth column, a much more well funded and entrenched fifth column than the nazis or communists ever were.

        • EarlyBird

          We actually agree this time. At least you're not among the fascists on this board talking about removing the Constitutional right to practice their religion.

          • defcon 4

            Duh, there is a whole muslime "civil rights" organization dedicated to overthrowing the Constitution in favor of Sharia law. Islamic civil rights come at the expense of everyone not muslime.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            He seems to think it's all right for them to have freedom of religion at the expense of all their victims. Poor little wee, he's such a small little man.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "We actually agree this time. At least you're not among the fascists on this board talking about removing the Constitutional right to practice their religion."

            Again and again you obscure by simplifying. What people are saying is that you can't attack others in the name of your own religious rights. Ever notice that some times people have rights that apparently conflict with the rights of others? That's what the judiciary is for BUT political correctness seems to have corrupted those processes that would normally lead to justice.

            What we're saying is that by understanding Islam in more detail and accuracy, we can make better political decisions about where to draw the line when Muslim rights CLEARLY are in conflict with the rights of others.

            In other words yes, we need to limit everyone's rights (nobody has an absolute right to anything in case you're not aware) but you're only concerned about absolute rights for Muslims and nobody else's. We have to wonder why that is.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            There is no right to practice a "religion" that advocates overthrowing the government and replacing it with a Koran compliant one.

          • .1cornpone

            Why do you think Islam is a religion?

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "How about American-born citizens of the US who practice Islam? "

        Ejecting non-citizens for their anti-democratic actions will only send a warning to American traitors that we're not going to tolerate or encourage (ahem, that's you) such behavior any longer.

        Enough is enough.

        • EarlyBird

          Non-citizens? Of course, especially if they commit crimes. The question is about US citizens.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Those not loyal to the constitution and the rule of law should have predictable consequences strong enough to deter the crime.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Non-citizens? Of course, especially if they commit crimes. The question is about US citizens."

            Yet again you think in such simple terms that it's hard to get through to you. We have a problem with a concerted effort to bring down and or change the constitution. Taking bold steps in treating non-citizens who try to force sharia will also send a message to citizens. That was part of my point. Any time you deal with Islam in restraining it you are helping to send the message that no, allah is not calling you to overthrow the non-sharia sovereigns.

            If you paid any attention at all to what we are trying to teach people about the ideology, you'd understand the point. And I also answered your question directly as a separate comment.

      • kaz

        free nations should treat their muslim enemies, both domestic and imported, in the exact same way that victorious muslims have always treated the inhabitants of a land they have conquered. it isnt pretty, but it is effective. do you think that in any of those 100% muslim nations the non-muslim previous inhabitants all woke up one day and saw that worshiping an evil god and venerating an archcriminal prophet was right for them? every muslim nation was once non-muslim, and the previous inhabitants were slaughtered, or abused until they submitted to evil. it would work the other way.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          I wonder what the Jews in Saudi Arabia would say about that?

          Oh, there are none. Never mind…

  • tagalog

    One positive thing the Tsarnaevs did: they highlighted the folly of gun controls that outlaw certain firearms only to put these selfsame firearms in the hands of the police while the law-abiding people are ordered to huddle in their homes while the police roam the streets with that weaponry.

  • hikerdude

    As a Christian I was trying to temper my disdain for Muslims. I first heard the word "Jihad" in the 60s.
    I am of Italian decent . My parents assimilated . They loved this country. I have been to Europe . I saw women pulling plows. When I learned that the bombers place the bomb next to the 8 year old boy and killed him and blew his younger sisters leg off my attempt to temper my disrespect for Islam went out the
    window . Wear a burka …guilty til proven innocent . Attend a mosque … guilty until proven innocent ,
    voted for the B.O. …guilty until proven innocent .

    • EarlyBird

      "Wear a burka …guilty til proven innocent . Attend a mosque … guilty until proven innocent ,
      voted for the B.O. …guilty until proven innocent ."

      Yep! So much for that wonderful United States of America that your parent loved. Once we get scared, those sissy, "leftist" values like full and fair trial by jury goes right out the window.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "Once we get scared, those sissy, "leftist" values like full and fair trial by jury goes right out the window."

        He's talking about probable cause. What if someone was brazen enough to wear a Nazi swastika, should the police be able to use that as probable cause during a time of Nazi terror campaigns?

        Obviously yes.

        • EarlyBird

          No, he's not talking about probably cause to investigate. Try to follow along, Objy. He's talking about considering them absolutely "guilty."

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "No, he's not talking about probably cause to investigate. Try to follow along, Objy. He's talking about considering them absolutely "guilty.""

            This is casual political discourse. If you're not sure what he meant, ask him. What does it even mean to be guilty until proven innocent? It's not like he outlined a plan to restructure our entire constitution regarding criminal prosecution. Maybe he wasn't even talking about police at all but in his own mind he's simply saying he won't trust people without affirmative evidence that he can.

            You're always so sure what everyone means. If you really do think you're helping people live more harmoniously, then you are your own worst enemy. You're also an enemy of American values.

            That's not a call to have you shot as you will likely claim. It's just a statement. Freak.

      • defcon 4

        Burkas should be outlawed — at least while driving and possibly in banks and jewelry stores and the evidence as to why is plain to see.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Burkas should be outlawed — at least while driving and possibly in banks and jewelry stores and the evidence as to why is plain to see."

          To me it's shocking that any sovereign would tolerate religious garb that obscures the operator's outward view and identifying the operator while controlling any dangerous machinery.

  • CurmudgyOneJr

    There is no way a logical mind can comprehend these people. We can explain them (as Daniel G. did well in this piece), but we can't apprehend their logic. How could we? Why would someone come to this country and adopt its lifestyle because of its freedom, and then use that freedom to try to destroy it? This country is the absolute antithesis of Islam; while Islam is a political and social scheme of submission, America is a political and social scheme of freedom. While we don't war against them because of what they are, they DO ar against us for that very reason. These fools who bombed Boston, blinded and made robotic by their so-called "faith," are the vanguard; we must all be vigilant and ready to fight against the rest. And CAIR? They can shove it; we don't NEED American-Islam Relations … we need a good fence and defense!

    • tagalog

      They use our freedom as a tool that is helpful to their goal of destroying us because we are not like them.

      They find our freedom (including freedom of religious belief) repulsive and want to install obedience to their conception of God in its place.

      I agree that our culture and society have developed some degenerate ideas but unlike them I don't want to kill anybody over the issue.

  • Fred

    When do we get to fight back? How long do we tolerate the intolerant murders amount us? When do we make CAIRs worst nightmare real? Just how do we rid the world of Islam? How did we rid the world of NAZIs? It's long past time for another Crusade. How about starting with Mecca.

  • https://twitter.com/PatriotLounge The Patriot Lounge

    Holy wars are not to be fought with fleshly men
    Jihad is Muhammad’s lie
    Do not fall like him for Satan’s lie

  • patriothere

    Aren't these haters just so happy that they can make a faint connections to these alleged murderers and Islam. You people make me sick.

    The older brother is being connected to a triple homicide. The guy was a sociopath and a terrorist. He happened to call himself a Muslim. That's all.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Come on, is this what you handlers have you doing?

      You're a paid hack and you just don't have the credibility to make up things like this.

      6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
      I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

      • JacksonPearson

        Every once in awhile, the rat "patriotnot" crawls out of his camel's azz!

      • patriothere

        You advocate for the murder of children so you need to just move away from the discussion.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          I'd say quote me but you can't.
          And I don't. And are you here to deflect from Wee being outed?

          • patriothere

            really? Are you that much of a pathetic troll?

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, the Almighty did things on His own. No having His followers do the dirty work like muslims do.

            Really. Want to say that quote advocates for goat marriages too since you're making things up?

          • patriothere

            I just quoted you! You fail at life loser.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And where in that quote did I advocate for violence? I spoke about the Almighty doing what He wants to do. Not my using violence towards anything.

            You really need new handlers. Is this going to make you call me a Jew lover again?

          • patriothere

            You worship a god that murders children.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            God created those Children, they were His.

            And He didn't have any thugs to set off car bombs.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I thought Muslims didn't believe we owned ourselves. Now you say Chirstians don't either.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I said what I said.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Yes, and it makes you look like a fool.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, it makes you look like a troll.When I said something very clear and you try twisting it, you're the troll not me.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You said Muslims don't believe they own themselves. Now you say the babies don't own themselves under God.

            you are like a Muslim.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why do you pretend you can put words in my mouth so close to the original comment and get away with it?

            I said what I said. And I'm not like any islamic activist. My Almighty isn't anything like your barbaric allah.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Jesus said what he said…I don't come in peace.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That's not His quote.Try quoting Him if you want to pretend you're quoting.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I came not to bring peace, but a sword

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And Christians have been facing a sword since Christ was here.

            But that doesn't say He wanted us to use one.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said what he said.

            And chistians died by the sword because they lived by the sword, as Jesus also said.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            With islam that would be true, but not with Christ's followers.

            You can't show He taught that or lived that.

            You lose, you always do. Go back to your bong.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He siad what he said.

            you can't change it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I'm not.

            And neither can you. So, there goes your whole argument.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I just quoted the bible, you are the one saying it means something different than the literal.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not. You're the one saying it says what it doesn't say.But as a muslim you don't have much choice, do you?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said he didn't come by peace.

            I said her didn't come by peace.

            I didn't change a thing..

            You are a failure.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It's a warning Christians will face violence. And you muslims seem to dish it out a lot.Did you change a thing? I called you on it and you reverted back to the quote but still stuck to the same flawed conclusion that the quote doesn't back up.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            How do you know the secret (made up) meaning?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why do you reject the obvious and consistent meaning?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            That is YOUR made up meaning.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not. Ask any Christian. That's why we're not barbaric like islam and don't do suicide vests.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            yes you are. You Christians ate butt meat.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And you must eat goat meat.Ali Baba and the stupid little goat – YouTube

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            My comment is a fact about the violent nature of Christains, your comment is a ttird joke you've made a thousand times.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You, a follower of the most violent forced religion on earth want to chop my head off and you talk about Christian violence?That's beyond funny.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You don't have an argument. Just insults.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That's your style. Want to try saying Jesus used violence some more?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You never showed that Jesus didn't kill people when he was 18. after all he admited that he came by the sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You never even claimed He did. You just one text, tried changing it and then lied.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Except I DID show he wanted violence, and he said it with his own words. You are a fraud, your attacks on Jesus is telling.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No you didn't. Quote where He wanted it, and I'll tell you to quote the verse correctly.And when did He ever use it? Never, but facts don't stop you from your muslim loyal talking points.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said he did use a sword, so if you don't believe him, then you are not Christian. And you still haven't explained why he may have used the sword to kill people when he was 18 years old.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            quote where He said that.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You are a froad that can't accept he follows a violent Jesus.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're a fraud that pretends Jesus was violent.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He admited he was violent. You are a fraud. And you steal my words, like the word fraud, because you are a 10 year old gil with I know you are but what am I style of debate.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course Jesus didn't. Jesus didn't live a violent life. He lived a perfect life.When you lie, when you change the quote, when you smear and attack you just show how little you understand facts and reality.Don't you need to go open and close your front door another 250 times?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Jesus said that he didn't come to bring peace. How is jody doing?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Who is Jody? You always come up with links to people that make no sense in your OCD driven urges.Did you open and close your door another 250 times? And Jesus didn't live a violent life.You're just a sad muslin troll, trashing around out of desperation. Can't you put the bong down and download some free games? http://www.stuxnet.org

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I've seen the link.So, who is Jody? Is your really lame investigator this desperate for trista's money?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You know Jody Russell.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Nice side step.You've been shown a troll on the lie about a violent Jesus. You have been owned on lie after lie so now you want me to discuss someone on the west coast?I've seen the link and I can't be her off spring at the same age range. You're just trying to change the subject.Is this another instance of your bad drug use kicking in?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You know exactly who Jody Russell is. youa are related to her.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I could offer to do a DNA test, but I wouldn't want to inflict your influence on anyone.I think you're related to this person, prove you're not!(1) Bozo the Clown OfficialAnd as a sexually deviant stalker you don't deserve any personal information.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You have not actuallt denied it's your relative, funny how that works. You know her. You have met her. You have talked to her. you lived in the same area.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You haven't denied that Bozo isn't a relative. You live in the same area, you have met him. You have talked to him.Moron, I realize you're trying to get me to slip and give you personal information. I don't do that when someone wants my head in a basket.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Saying you don't know a person isn't giving out personal information. Refusing to deny you know her proves that you do know her. You have made three replies without saying you know her. You said you weren't her offspring. You said that it is some person, but yet, no denial that uou know her. Now I know her.

          • onepornqueen
          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And Christians have faced the sword since He came.So, where does that teach us to use violence? It doesn't.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            When he said he came to bring a sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And His life brought a lot of persecution on His followers.It didn't' say we are be violent.You already admitted the Bible says what it says. So, just realize you're out of your league and go back under you bridge.Troll boy.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said he came by a sword, and not peace.

            So in fact he did say you should be violent.

            that is how words work.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, it's a warning that we will face violence. You just don't know enough about Christianity to make these guesses.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            you are making up your own meaning. that's why the bible is such a scam.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Like you are?Not even.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            All I did was quote the
            bible.

            you are the one making up a meaning that is the complete opposite of what it says.

            Own your violent Jesus.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You quoted it, misquoted it and then put something to the misquote that wasn't there.

            Jesus did not use violence.

          • onepornqueen

            If I don't own you by now, I will never, never, never owwwwnnnn you…
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTcu7MCtuTs

          • patriothere

            You believe in a god, you pray to a god to kill children and spread plagues to your fellow man. What you're doing in reality is wishing ill will and bad things to happen to your own people.

            god has nothing to do with it because there is no god.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not. I pray for lot's of things.But mostly to have help in copying Christ in my life.

          • patriothere

            christs hate?

            Luke 14:26

            New International Version (NIV)

            26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, God wants to be the most important part of our life.

          • patriothere

            Right, so hate your own life, hate your parents, hate your brothers and sisters. What wonderful loving advice from such a loving and caring god.

            NOT!!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And how is that showing that Jesus wanted violence?You're changing the argument since you lost it.

          • patriothere

            He is not a wonderful loving caring god when he says to hate your own life, hate your parents, hate your brothers and sisters etc.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Try reading the rest of the Chapter, We are to put God first. and no violence is mentioned anyplace.

          • patriothere

            I already told you I did. It says clear as day, hate your own life, hate your parents hate your brothers and sisters. It takes your theory of christ saying to love god and love your fellow man and throws it out the window!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And once more you didn't' point out any violence.

          • patriothere

            And once more you didn't point out any peace.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And once more you made a claim about violence and couldn't point out where it had any.

          • patriothere

            I made a point that jesus advocated hate. I made a point that there is no mention of peace and love in that verse.

            Hate breeds violence!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            They're two different words. In your culture hate may equal violence but you haven't shown that with the teachings of Christ. Perhaps you muslims lack the self control He had.

          • patriothere

            Jesus advocated hate. He advocated violence. That is my point.

            Matthew 10:34

            King James Version (KJV)

            34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

            Out of hate, comes violence. And no where is there any mention of love

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            He advocated God being first above all else.And there isn't any violence in that text, so you're making things up. That's my point. It's all you do as a rented mouth.

          • patriothere

            How can you say there is no violence when he says he came not to send peace but a sword.

            What can you do with a sword that isn't violent?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            How can you say he used violence when there is no example of him doing it.And His life did bring the sword to many of His followers.Not at all like mohamed of course.

          • patriothere

            You can forget about all that nonsense about loving your neighbor like you love yourself and all that other bull****

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Not really. That golden rule is what allowed the western culture to advance, and without it that's why islam is stuck in the 8th century mindset.

          • patriothere

            Yes really.

            Luke 14:26

            New International Version (NIV)

            26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And where in that is any mention of violence?

            It's not. Your muslim talking points just don't hold up.

            Jesus never used or taught violence, even if you're paid to say so.

            Why are you here again? Oh you want to stop debate! I remember now!

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            Where does it mention peace and love? Where does it mention to love god? There is no mention of love at all. Just hate. Hatred for your own life, hatred for your parents hatred for your brothers and sisters.

            hate breeds violence.

            And jesus came by the sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Where does it point towards violence? Oh, it doesn't.

          • patriothere

            Where does it point to love and peace? It doesn't.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So, you can't show where it points towards violence.And your version of peace and mine are totally incompatible.

          • patriothere

            So, you can't show where it points towards peace and love?

            Hate breeds violence. And there is plenty of hate in that verse.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Hate and violence are the same in your culture, so facing a better culture that doesn't call for violence may seem strange to you and your handlers.

            But it isn't an issue for Christians as much as your throw back sharia.

            See the tltle of the story? islam's world war came to boston.

            Can you show where a Christian world war has come to any city in the last 100 years? And where it happened due to the teachings of Christ that demanded it like mohammed did in surah 9.

          • patriothere

            Hate and violence is what jesus taught.

            Luke 14:26

            New International Version (NIV)

            26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

            Matthew 10:34

            King James Version (KJV)

            34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            He taught God must come first. He never taught violence.mohammed, he taught violence. Check surah 9

          • patriothere

            He said he did not come to send peace but a sword.

            A sword. Not a fluffy bunny rabbit, not love, not peace, a sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And still you can't show He used violence or wanted His followers to use it.

          • patriothere

            Islam has a golden rule too.

            “Seek for mankind that of which you are desirous for yourself, that you may be a believer.”
            —Sukhanan-i-Muhammad

            “That which you want for yourself, seek for mankind.”

          • NotAsDumbAsSBJ1964

            Stop the wailing and the gnashing, 'ight?

            - Chuy –

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            He knows that only applies to other muslims.

            And even then they can't live up to it, look at the muslims blowing up other muslims.

          • patriothere

            “Seek for mankind that of which you are desirous for yourself, that you may be a believer.”
            —Sukhanan-i-Muhammad

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Car bombs, or stoned rape victims?

          • patriothere

            “Seek for mankind that of which you are desirous for yourself, that you may be a believer.”
            —Sukhanan-i-Muhammad

            The golden rule.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is that the verse right after surah 9:5?9:5Then, when the sacred months have passed,slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

          • patriothere

            My point is clear. Islam has it's version of the golden rule.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The only problem is that the facts don't back it up.

            Ask Neda.

          • patriothere

            The facts are clear as your ugly face.

            “Seek for mankind that of which you are desirous for yourself, that you may be a believer.”
            —Sukhanan-i-Muhammad (Teheran, 1938)

            “None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself.”
            —An-Nawawi's Forty Hadith 13 (p. 56)

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Too bad the surah 9 mandates as the last word from mohammed are more important than those two quotes.

          • patriothere

            Too bad the matthew 10:34 is more important than whatever else jesus said.

            Matthew 10:34

            King James Version (KJV)

            34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And His followers have been facing the sword since His life.He was accurately foretelling the future. You still can't show He used violence.

          • patriothere

            Muslims have been facing the sword as well. They were praying and were slaughtered.

            Matthew 10:34

            King James Version (KJV)

            34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And since Jesus was here swords have been sent against His followers. Jesus warned us, and it's happened.

          • patriothere

            jesus advocated violence you liar!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not.

          • patriothere

            Yes he did. You can lie a million times But I will still be right!

          • patriothere

            You're doing jesus' dirty work for him.

            Luke 14:26

            New International Version (NIV)

            26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And where in that text does it say a thing about using violence?

            You really do need to change out your handlers. The money they spend on you is wasted..

          • patriothere

            You're doing jesus' dirty work for him.

            Luke 14:26

            New International Version (NIV)

            26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I don't see any mention of violence. Not like surah 9.

          • patriothere

            In luke 14 26 he doesn't to say to love your self of your brothers and sisters like My god would say, If I made up one to believe in. Since you're making up a god to believe in why don't you just create one that loves everybody?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            When you Love God, the rest falls into place.

            You're making up a fake allah that you pretend is on the same level as the Almighty? Not even.

            How are those universally accepted goat brides doing?

          • patriothere

            And when you hate your fellow man like it says to do in luke 14:26 you get things like the crusades and the inquisition and the genocide of the new world.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And when you follow surah 9 you get murder and brutality since the 8the century.The crusades? Defense against invading muslim hordes attacking Christians.Inquisition? You get the reformation to keep it from every happening again.Genocide? That's what happens when muslims take over a place.

          • patriothere

            The crusades were bad. You just make yourself look more like a troll and monster. The inquisiton was bad you need to admit that it was, and genocide is bad so you need to condemn christians for doing it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The crusades were noble but our society simply wasn't up to it like the British were when they took care of the job and conquered the ottoman empire.

          • patriothere

            The crusades were very bad. Genocide is bad.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes. Yet the muslims did it anyhow. They just kept at the Byzantine Empire pushing for war.

            And they're still doing it.
            Ask the Egyptian Copts.

          • patriothere

            You agree with me. The crusades were bad.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            But the barbaric invading muslims left no choice.

          • patriothere

            It wasn't the Muslims it was the barbaric invading christians who stole the land from the bubble gum forest in 16000 BC!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The muslims hordes invaded from the desert to the east.Self defense is not a vice, even for the Byzantine Empire.

          • patriothere

            War is bad.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Then why does islam want it so badly?

          • patriothere

            They don't. israel does.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why do all the war loving muslims blame it on Israel?

          • patriothere

            israel is calling for war in syria, Iran, Lebanon, they were the ones that called for war in Iraq. They are the war mongers that have had 63 years to get along with their neighbors and have not.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Self preservation is a powerful thing to a Jew.And Iran still wants to erase them from the maps.

          • patriothere

            Terrorism and war is a powerful thing to a jew.

            Dr. A said israel will vanish from the pages of time. Like the soviet union.

            No violence like you jews wish everyday.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Jews fight to survive. Iran fights because they follow sharia, a system that gives them no choice.

            Yet Israel Stands. The Almighty is more powerful than the fake allah it seems.

          • patriothere

            jews fight because they work towards world domination
            Happy will be the lost of Israel, whom the Holy One, blessed be He, has chosen from amongst
            the Goyim, of whom the Scriptures say: "Their work is but vanity, it is an illusion at which we
            must laugh; they will all perish when God visits them in His wrath." At the moment when the
            Holy One, blessed be He, will exterminate all the Goyim of the world, Israel alone will subsist,
            even as it is written: "The Lord alone will appear great on that day! . . .
            Zohar, Vayshlah 177b

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I don't recognize that quote. Their Almighty does rule the world. You do know that, don't you?

          • patriothere

            It's from the talmud. and you're just a troll.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I'm not Jewish so you're not just the paid hack but also the one with really lame handlers.

          • patriothere

            You are jewish. Christians are jews.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Are all persians jews too?Jews were in Persia since the time of the capture of Babylon. So, you're all Jews.

          • patriothere

            Not all Persians are jews but some of them are.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So you're Jewish.

          • patriothere

            I'm not the one that supports israels genocide of the palestinians and the jews plans for world domination. That's you!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I dont' support that fictional account either.

            What's wrong, the goats not marrying you?

            3 hours ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 12 replies · 0 points
            jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal.

            child brides is all three judaic religions.

            jihad is the same thing that happened in the crusades.

            sharia is no different than talmudic law.

            the bible and it's plan for world domination and slavery for gentiles is a jewish thing.

          • patriothere

            It's not fake. It's real.

          • patriothere

            Iran has a right to defend itself from the terror state of israel.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            By shipping missiles to Lebanon? How is that self defense again?Oh, it's not. It's living up to the surah 9 mandates.

          • patriothere

            israel threatens iran every day with violence. They have a right to support resistance movements like Hezbollah.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Self defense sucks for the country trying to erase Israel off the map.

          • patriothere

            They never said that and israel is the one that is actually threatening iran. Everyday.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            What's wrong, is the short and stinky president of Iran realizing Israel isn't going to be erased?

          • patriothere

            You got any other old tired propaganda points you want to rehash?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Do your handlers have a headache or something?

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            So you do?

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          "You advocate for the murder of children so you need to just move away from the discussion. "

          Projecting again, muhammed?

    • EarlyBird

      Oh come on. This guy was a jihadist, plain and simple.

      How does the fact that he was an angry sociopath alienated from his countrymen, a terrorist by your own description, "who happened to call himself a Muslim," NOT make him a jihadist? That's the exact profile of your average, home-grown Islamist terrorist! Jihad organizations aren't going to find many recruits among well-adjusted, kind, non-violent Quakers.

      Let's not be as partisan as the lunatics on this site. We must combat their hysterical xenophobia, but we don't have to be stupid about it.

      No, not all the world's Muslims are potential terrorists, but jihad is real, it's a threat, and this monster was a jihadist, no ifs ands or buts.

      • onepornqueen

        "not all the world's Muslims are potential terrorists"

        They are if the Koran is their "holy" book and they try to abide by it. Stupid much?

      • defcon 4

        Who finances islamic terrorism? Leprechauns? Djinns? Or do you think worldwide islamofascist terrorism is a for profit enterprise?

      • patriothere

        The brothers were alienated American citizens. Timothy Mcveigh was a christian terrorist.

        You can be a terrorist and be muslim and not be a muslim terrorist. Come on now. They acted alone. They weren't connected to any organization. They just happened to come from a Muslim background.

        We don't know their motives yet.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          McVeigh was a person who dropped away from Christianity before he became a terrorist. Not because of it.

          You muslim paid hacks don't understand something. We don't stone apostates. It's easy to start and stop membership in Christian churches, some jump from one group to another several times and never even get snubbed at potlucks.

          • patriothere

            Timothy mcveigh was a christian terrorist. Anders breivik was a christian terrorist. What about the IRA?

            You're just a troll.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            This from the non credible paid hack troll.

            Go advocate for those universal goat weddings why don't you?

            3 hours ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 12 replies · 0 points
            "jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal…."

          • patriothere

            Luke 14:26

            New International Version (NIV)

            26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You keep using that text. And you never can say where it says to get swords and actually use them. Until you can answer that, you're going to look foolish every time you use it.

          • patriothere

            That text proves christianity is hate. That explains why you hate so much. It's what you are taught as a christian zionist paid troll.

            Here it is again in case you missed it.

            Luke 14:26

            New International Version (NIV)

            26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple

            And here is you saying your god kills children and you are proud of it.

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And where did Jesus teach us to use swords? It's not there even if you quote it that way hundreds of times. It just makes your handlers look foolish.

            And my quote, where do I advocate for violence? I advocate for a God that is powerful enough I don't have to do His suicide bombings.

          • patriothere

            jesus advocated for hate. Hate your parents, hate your own life, hate your brothers and sisters (that means other christians btw) hate everything and everybody. \

            You're a good christian roger. Congrats on being a hateful person.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is that like Mohammed advocating for little girlies and goats?

          • patriothere

            jesus advocated for hate. Hate your parents, hate your own life, hate your brothers and sisters (that means other christians btw) hate everything and everybody. \

            You're a good christian roger. Congrats on being a hateful person.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, he advocated for nothing more important to us than Him.

          • patriothere

            Read luke 14:26

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why not the entire chapter?Or would that prove you wrong. Your handlers wont' let you read the whole thing, will they?

          • patriothere

            I read the entire chapter and it says what it says. Hate your brothers and sisters, hate your own life.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Then you haven't read the entire chapter.Were there too many big words?

          • patriothere

            I read the entire chapter and it says what it says.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course, and it's not what you pretend it does.

          • patriothere

            Jesus did NOT just say to love god and love your neighbor. He said a lot of other ugly things.

            Matthew 10:34

            King James Version (KJV)

            34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still changing words, the typical new muslim troll on an old troll profile.

          • patriothere

            Jesus did NOT just say to love god and love your neighbor. He said a lot of other ugly things.

            Matthew 10:34

            King James Version (KJV)

            34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That's not accurate, you're changing words in typical muslim fashion.

          • patriothere

            It's the king james version. Not the dancing pink ponies version.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And why couldn't you make that version up?

            Can't you find an even older one in latin or something?

          • UncleSi

            Roger, you sure appear to have your codpiece in a kink.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            There is nothing about my cod piece that is any of your business.

          • patriothere

            The king james version is what I use.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And it still doesn't call for violence. It doesn't say Jesus wanted it, only that it would happen.And you still can't show Jesus used it.So, you're still just a rented mouth loser.Again.

          • UncleSi

            Anyone who does not agree with you is a Muslim.

            You beady eyed little derp.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Depends on if they push sharia compliant values.

          • You Know Who

            That is why he is a bigot

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            When someone advocates for sharia complaint values and I point it out, that makes me observant. When someone says this and continues to defend it, that makes them a bigot.

            24 minutes ago @ Breitbart.tv – Soldier Found Guilty i… · 1 reply · +1 points
            The whole town needs locked in the church and the church set on fire. IMO

          • UncleSi

            Matthew 16:23

            Satan get thee behind me!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So, no more from you?See ya! Have a nice trip and bring some sun block!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Oh, are you saying your accepting a goat in marriage equals hating your father and mother?

          • patriothere

            You are one desperate troll.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So, are you saying your accepting a goat in marriage equals hating your father and mother?

            Come on, just admit it.

          • patriothere

            I'm saying you are a desperate troll

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You say a lot of things. As a rented mouth you don't have a lot of choice in it.

          • patriothere

            Most of what I say is the truth.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            None of what you say is what you are really saying. It's what the handlers have you post.And they're always wrong. It's just that sharia thing.

          • patriothere

            I can't make myself any more clearer.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Not without your handlers saying you have to.

          • patriothere

            The handlers you invented in your head.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You were the one that explained it.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            You were the one that interpreted me saying I am not a troll like you into something else.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You admitted it. Don't blame me for your own stupid.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            McVeigh never dropped away from Christianity. He believed in Jesus until he died.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Too bad he didn't follow Christ until he died.
            And he stopped attending mass.

            That would be a fallen away Christian or as you would call it, an apostate.

          • patriothere

            I think he did follow christ.

            Luke 14:26

            New International Version (NIV)

            26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Where in that does it say to use swords?

            Did I miss it?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Jesus said he came by the sword.

            You miss a lot of things. Especially losing your virginity.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And where does it say Jesus wants us to use swords?

            You miss a lot of things, I don't. And you crawled back into your cave I wouldn't miss you a bit.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            when he said I CAME by the sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So, you admit He didn't say for us to buy and use one.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said he came by the sword.

            And….. He has set the example for us in all areas of life

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And what sword did Jesus ever hold and use?

            None. So, I'll have to follow that example.

            Paul defines the 'sword' of truth. Jesus came with truth.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I go by Jesus over Paul.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And you haven't shown that Jesus carried a sword or used one.

            Point, and score.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He came by the sword,Jesus said.

            He didn't come in peace, Jesus said.

            Roger can't re-frame Jesus.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            He never carried a sword or told us to.

            You can't reframe that or side step it.

            Poor little muslim friendly sexually deviant troll.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said he came by the sword, you can't make up lies to change that fact.

            And Jesus is a virgin, like you.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're using cut and paste. And can you show Jesus ever used or told us to use a sword?

            Nope. You lose. But keep repeating it and losing over and over if you must.

            You're just a loser.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said he came by a sword.

            That's all.

            You can't re-frame Jesus's words.

            and he didn't come by peace.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're reframing it.Just go ahead and read it for what it is. Where does it say he wants us to use a sword, and can you show He used one?Nope. You're still a loser.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said he came by the sword.

            He said follow his example.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, and He died without armed resistance. He lived to heal and help and spread peace.

            What was your point again?

            You confuse Jesus with mohammed the pedophile that married a 6 year old and was a common highway thief and murderer.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said that he didn't come in peace.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And here we are not in peaceful harmony on this and yet Jesus never taught or acted out in violence.

            You're not not proving your flawed point.

          • patriothere

            You should just admit that you were wrong and cut your losses.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why, where did Jesus teach violence and use a sword?

          • patriothere

            In luke 14:26 and in matthew.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I have. And read the entire chapter in Luke 14. Won't your handlers let you do that?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still can't show He used one, or that He wanted us to.Your'e still a loser.Is it the bong?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said he came by the sword.

            that's proof.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not. Where did He use one or teach us to?

            You're flawed point is still wrong.

          • patriothere

            I think you are a pretty good follower of christ roger. You hate, and you advocate for violence. jesus would be proud. Santat claus and the easter bunny would be upset with you though.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I don't much care what you think.

            Do your handlers know you tried to think on your own?

          • patriothere

            I don't much care for you.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No kidding? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

          • patriothere

            You're ugly too.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The rented mouth as a spiteful handler on duty. Too bad for you.

          • patriothere

            Too bad for your parents.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why, none of their kids are like you are.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said follow his example in all things.

            He said he came by the sword.

            He also said he had a circumcision, but you can\t show where he ever showed his p e n i s to anyone.

            Do you think he really had a circumcision?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And in Luke 22:52 Jesus set that example. Not only did He not advocate the sword but healed after one was used.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I don't blame you for not believing what Jesus said.

            He said he came by the sword.

            And not by peace.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I do blame you for trying to lie about what Jesus taught.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You are changing and ignoring what Jesus said to fit your agenda.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, I'm sticking to exactly what He did say.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            No, you are making up your own meaning to protect from the fact Jesus said he didn't come by peace.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not.I'm not muslim so I don't toy with words the way you do.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            youre worse a christain that lies every time he talks

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I do blame you for trying to lie about the teachings of Jesus.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You are lying about the teachings of Jesus.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Because I won't let you twist it into something He didn't ever do?Yeah haji.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You are twisting it to your own aginda instead of accpting what Jesus actually said.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            He said what? He said nothing about how we are supposed to arm up and use violence.Did you see that in there? It's not there. So, you're just a muslim troll out to do what muslim trolls do.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I just quoted the bible, you are the one struggling to change it.

          • patriothere

            He said it himself. There is no proof he even existed, but the character of jesus says to hate your self and come by the sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course there is. More proof than a mohammed existed.

            And Jesus never said for me to come with a sword or to do violence.

            You really get off on goats and violence. I hope that goat isn't abused too much.

          • patriothere

            hate your neighbors hate your self hate your parents.

            Boy that sure goes against all that bull**** you were saying about loving god and loving your neighbor.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Want to try saying that again? You typed so badly it was almost as if you were in the pen with your wife/goat.

          • patriothere

            Jesus did say he came by the sword. Remember that quote in the new testament about him saying think not I have come for peace, but I have come with a sword? That seems to me to advocate violence and any one of Christs followers should hate everybody and everything, and be violent.

            Matthew 10:34

            King James Version (KJV)

            34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And where did He tell His followers to carry a sword?

            Historically Jesus was correct. Christians have met a lot of persecution. We call it martyrdom.

          • patriothere

            Historically jesus never existed. But if you believe in a talking dead guy, then that speaks about how well you can differentiate between what is real and what is fake.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Historically Jesus did. You just can't say so without your handler's permission.

          • patriothere

            Historically Santa Claus did.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Santa Clause was, but only because he was following the example of Jesus.

          • patriothere

            You mean santa hated his parents and his brothers and sisters too?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Read my comment, it speaks for itself.

          • patriothere

            Santa Claus was what? Fake?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Google it, if your iranian computer can handle it.

          • patriothere

            I don't believe in anything roger. I need proof.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You made a guess. I showed you were wrong. Why would I bother to do more?I can't convince your handlers and what you think doesn't really matter a lot.

          • patriothere

            Hate breeds violence. Anders Breivik is proof of that. Tim Mcveigh is proof of that.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, going back on the teachings of Christ does.

            It's not like islam we don't stone apostates. We don't force it on children born to fathers in Christianity. It's a choice that you can make daily, without an honor killing.

            And those two are proof of that.

          • patriothere

            Actually going back on the teachings of christ would create peace.

            Matthew 10:34

            King James Version (KJV)

            34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

            Luke 14:26

            King James Version (KJV)

            26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Wow, and no place does Jesus tell His followers to go get a sword.

            You just hate that it's your barbaric forced style of life at the scummy rotten bottom of the barrel.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Jesus said what he said.

            You can't change it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And neither can you.And no where does He say for us to use violence. Can't change it, just accept it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I didn't change it, I just quoted the bible.

            You are desperate now.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, and it didn't say what you claim it says.It never advocates violence and Jesus never used a sword.So, you're barking up the wrong tree.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I didn't claim what you claim it says?

            You never make a sensible sentence when proven wrong.

            You can't claim he didn't advocate violence if he admits he didn't come by peace.

            You Christian logic is not really logic.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're just trying to distract me with this?Come on, at least pretend to make sense.Jesus didn't advocate violence by word or deed.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You are playing a desperate game.

            You lost.

            You VS the Bible and the Dictionary and you lose every time.

            Jesus said he didn't come is peace, and I don't NEED to show any of your re-framing of the argument.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course not.Why would you think that? All the violent Jesus led in His lifetime?You're just a typical muslim activist. (that would be an equivalent to 'troll')

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Jesus said what he said. You are not the one to change it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes and you can't list one act of violence.And warning us that the world would react with violence changes nothing.What a sad piece of offal you are. How much did you smoke for that to make any sense?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said he came by the sword, I don't need to show anything else.

            You need to show he ddin't use the sword to kill people when he was 16.

            Since he said he came by the sword, he had to of used a sword. Are you calling Jesus a liar?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Quote Him exactly. He didn't' say what you're saying. You''ve made subtle changes in the quote.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"

            You need to show that he didn't kill people with the sword when he was 15.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Jesus didn't use violence, yet it got to Him eventually. Persecution is a fact of life for many Christians and thanks to violent barbaric systems like islam it often leads to martyrdom.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            How do you know what he did at 16 years old? He said he didn't come by peace.

            also Jesus and God are the same, and god used a lot of violence in the OT

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            How you do know what Jesus did at 16 years old?

            And you're misquoting Him again. Why do muslims lie so much? Is that all you really have outside of the violence?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            How do you know he didn't use the sword he talked about using?

            and what about the sword he is going to use?

            Out of His mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So, you have no examples, and have to misquote the text to come to the conclusion you do, and you wonder why anyone with sense considers you a troll?

            This is violence. And it's the face of modern islam, Daniel Pearl style.

            1 day ago @ Big Government – Occupy-Linked Hacker G… · 17 replies · -6 points
            The revolution has begun and your kind will be finding their heads in baskets soon. I hope you still have that smile on your face when that time comes.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I don't have to show anything, Jesus said it. you are in denial or calling Jesus a liar.

            And you ignore the quote saying he will use a sword to kill.

            You are a fraud.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're the one lying and misquoting Jesus, and then ignoring His life of peace.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You are a frard. I gave you the quote.

            you are denying the wrod of Jesus.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And can't explain why it calls for our use of violence.Then you misquoted it. Then you pretended that Jesus advocated for violence, but can't show Jesus actually used it or taught His followers to use it.This is why no one believes islamic trolls. You just can't tell the truth on the most obvious of issues.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            you deny the word of Jesus. I don't need to tempt Jesus into showing anything. He said it, I cave you his exact quote.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You gave a quote warning of violence we would face, and have faced as the result of the life of Christ.You haven't, and can't show where Jesus used or advocated violence for Christians.This is still why muslim trolls have no credibility. I can quote surah 9 and demand you kill all your livestock since they aren't believers and follow the calls to prayer and it would be more accurate.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I don't HAVE to show anything you fraud. He siad he came by the sword. You need to show he didn't kill people with that sword when he was 18.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            If you want to make up the false scenario that Jesus was violent, at least support it with something.Otherwise, you're just the guy smoking too much and living in an altered state of mind.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            It sure is easy for you to ignore the words of Jesus, but you are a fraud, we all know that.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It sure is easy as a muslim to lie about Jesus.And to twist His words into something He didn't say.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            All I did was quote the bible, you are twisting his words to fit your hate agenda against Muslims.

            You are a fraud. And a virgin

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            All you did was change that text so you could lie and cover for the desire to smear Christ.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I quoted the bible direcly, didn't change it. You are lying to cover your shame that Jesus was a blood thristy violent man, who said he didn't come to bring peace.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And then you misquoted it and then you took the mis quote to make a flawed statement.You can't show where you are correct and Jesus used any violence, or where He wanted His followers to.So, you're just a troll out to do the typical muslim smear that other religions are as bad as yours.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            But you ignore the many times I posted teh exact quote, and yoiu still deny it. And you still won't explain why he may have killed people with the sword when he was 18, even though he said he comes by a sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I don't ignore the exact quote.I point out the mis quote and then point out the flawed conclusion not supported by any facts.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You did ignored it, and nevber explained why Jesus may have used a sword to kill people when he was 18, since he did say with his own words that he didn't come in peace.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Ignore it? I challenge it and debunk it.And you may have stopped breathing at a year old.And you are not using the exact quote when you come to that false conclusion.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            When someone say he didn't come by peace, that mean he didn't come to bring peace. You are a froud, not a debater. You debate random words because of your OCD

          • patriothere

            jesus said what he said.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And He lived the life He did. So, either you are taking His words wrong or you're just not understand them.

          • patriothere

            A life full of swords and hatred. Gee wiz sounds like a great guy!

            NOT!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You can't show Jesus ever held a sword. So, it's just another lie your handlers pay you to post.

          • patriothere

            I can't show he even existed either. So your point is invalid.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Sure we can, and people on this forum have already done that. Are you a new person posting on this profile?

          • patriothere

            Who's we? Your fellow insane troll posse?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So, you're a new person posting on this profile. You sounded different.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He believed in Jesus. That makes him a Christian. That's all.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is it? How? How did what he do follow the teachings of Christ?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said he believed in Jesus. So he's a christian.

            That's all.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That's not all.

            How did he follow the teachings of Christ? Christians are followers of Christ, the NT says even the demons believe and tremble. Your definition of my religion isn't good enough sparky.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            re-framing again I see.

            I said he believe in Jesus. That makes him a Christian.

            Definition of CHRISTIAN

            a : one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Nope, just stopping him from trying it.

            And what teaching of Christ was McVeigh professing with he acted out his violence?

            Well, you gave the definition so I'm waiting…. and waiting….. and waiting….

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He said he believed in Jesus, that's all you need to be a Christian.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Nope, not at all.
            Do you know what professes means?
            Do you know what Christian means outside a secular dictionary?
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian

            Don't like Wiki? http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03712a.htm

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Yes, that is all you need. Your wiki link makes the term even easyier to define.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes it does.
            And not the way you pretend it does.

            And as a muslim friendly troll you don't get to tell me what the Bible says.
            That's all.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Stop pretending you know better than all the dictionaries in the world..

            1Chris·tian
            noun \ˈkris-chən, ˈkrish-\
            1
            a : one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Stop pretending you can have secular people change what the word meant.

            Christ- ian
            What does ian mean?
            http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/-ian
            1.( forming adjectives and nouns ) belonging to or relating to; a person belonging to or coming from: European
            2.( forming adjectives and nouns ) typical of or resembling; a person typical of: Elizabethan

            That was what it meant to be a Christian.
            Even if atheists / muslims such as yourself insist on #3 against the teachings of the Bible.

            3.( forming adjectives and nouns ) adhering to or following; an adherent of: Christian
            4.( forming nouns ) a person who specializes or is expert in: dietitian ; phonetician

            Since you want to use secondary definitions that are imposed instead of accurate, I say due to #4 you're a Christian too! More than Hitler since He only made token appearances in church and you have your cleric study with you on how to insult us.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            It's you against the dictionary.

            You lose.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, it's history vs the atheist definition.

            'Newspeak'. It fails when you understand language and word origins.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Noah Webster was a devout Christian.

            You lose against the dictionary every time.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And he's not alive and running his dictionary now is he?I have the definition from a legit source. And it explained more about the word. You were #3, so use a better dictionary next time.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            re-framing I see.

            Get a dictionary, learn definitions of things before trying to debate with people.

            You went to College of the Desert after all.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Go ahead and prove my source isn't credible.And prove the history of the word.Newspeak, I reject it and it's agenda.What is farsi for that term?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            The dictionary proves you wrong.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Not the one I linked to.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Yes it does. Your dictionary is only definitions of nouns and adjectives.

            You have no argument.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I have facts, historical facts.Instead of looking at the word as atheists use it last year, I looked at what it meant when the phrase was coined.I don't need an argument when I have that.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Dictionary 1/ Virgin 0

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Dictionary 1

            freak 0

            Can't find a dictionary that has the history of words?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            The dictionary beat you.

            I laugh

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            A dictionary defines a word with today's common usage.I went beyond that and showed what the word has always meant.You settled for too little.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Weber made the forst dictionary. He was christian, the definition hasn't changed.

            you lose.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of copurse not. YOu just lie a lot.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            spice

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I'd get my own before I accepted any from you.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            the

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Was it? You haven't shown that.And you haven't shown was 'professed' actually means either.You have more holes than swiss cheese in your comments.Again. You always settle for too little.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            bottle cap

          • KaoBoiLogic
          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Nothing's worse than an Arizona racist. Who's fat ass wife works in a jail.

          • KaoBoiLogic

            Sure there is. For instance, a Muzzie propagandist who tries to blur the very distinct difference between race and ideology. You're very stupid, know that?

            Happy trails, Darlin'!

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Go back to your fat ass Arizona racist wife.

          • .1galtfan

            Doesn't Islam teach you that envy is a deadly sin?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Your racist Arizona wife can be my fourth wife.

            Just kidding, she can be my third dog.

          • .1cornpone

            You probably should get a wife before you labor under the delusion that you could have a fourth.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Why buy the cow when the milk's for free?

            But since your wife is so cheap, I'll take her off your hands.

            Does she come with the bell?

          • .1cornpone

            Nah, but she does bring home the bacon, Achmed.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Yeah, I bet she has two huge strips of bacon between her legs.

            I can't wait to get the Abaya on her.

            she may need two.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is that your dream gal?
            I'll hire your mom and give her some pork slabs to rub around down there.
            I suppose I should look on the bright side.

            Now my dead eyes are safe.

          • .1cornpone

            Whew!! Dodged that one! :o)

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            you took it in the mouth.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I thought you aimed for the eyes?

            What happened, is your control as bad as your dad's?

          • .1cornpone

            I can't tell you how much your hateful comments hurt me. Know why? 'Cuz then someone would want to charge me with being an accessory to suicide. :o)

            I win = you lose.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Go ahead. I clear you of all charges.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You can't even clear a chalk board.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You should spend you thought on your "zinggers."

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You don't need to worry about my zing.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Why, mother hatred.

            That explains a lot about virgin.

            I bet you stutter like Billy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRuTiExSOdY

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I bet you think a lot about my face and I don't care for it.

            Go find a goat like other muslims.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            that mouth comment was for Kevin. don't get excited virgin.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            When you mentioned you thought I stutter, that's you thinking about my mouth.

            Come on, what's wrong? Did the cleric keep you dancing all night?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            No, I was talking about Kevin saying he dodged one.

            Get over yourself virgin.

            You are off your BS game.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            He was saying I dodged one because you weren't after my dead eyes.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Yes, I I told him he took it in the mouth.

            I was talking to him. Get it, virgin?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And I said my eyes were safe now.He said I dodged a bullet.Get it? You muslim loyal activists just can't stand being wrong and stupid both can you?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            you are way off your BS game. What's going on, no helmet?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It's not a game to me.How much have you 'smoked' today?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            last word

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is it?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            last word, how's the OCD doing by the way?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is it the last word?Why do you think that?And even if it is, what do you win? A free toaster at your mosque?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            last eword

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is it? Do you win a free toaster or something?What a hack you are.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            flowers

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You put down the bong to post that?What a waste of time on both counts.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            last word.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So what? You're still a stupid loser that didn't prove a thing.This is debate, not a staring contest.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Was it?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is it?Do you win a free toaster if it is?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            cat

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Go kiss a dog.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            rabbit

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            They're pretty much done mopping up coggy there, you're just too childish to make it past his filters.Dummy.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            banana

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No thanks, use it yourself.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            plate

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            One word answers.Are you having someone else help you keep up with me? Is that all you allow them to type since you can't have them sounds as stupid as you?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            just proving that you don't believe the idea wins the debate, but rather, the last word.

            yiour OCD needs to make the last comment, even if it is an argument againt the word sofa.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            tiger

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is that your last word?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            lion

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            How about you point and yell 'Squirrel!”

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            desk

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No thanks. Why are you offering me all this furniture?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            jar

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is that where you keep your bong stuff?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            floor

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            counter

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It's not much of a counter.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            thread

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No thanks.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            napkin

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            How much are you smoking on your bong?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            hippo

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            camel urine

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            CD

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            table

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is that where you want to put your baskets full of heads?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            paperclip

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            mosque explosion

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            piano

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            burka

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I-Pad

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            jizya tax

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            keyboard

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            caliphate

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            soup

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            apostate stoning

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            tea

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            sudanese genocide

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            twister

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            al taqiyya

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            beer

    • Christopher C.

      Ah, the old "Islamophobic" trope. And "faint" connections to Islam. Like Nidal's, I suppose. Considering the sweeping nature of your apologies for Islam, you wouldn't happen to be Muslim yourself, would you?

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        He defends islam while 'claiming' to be atheist. But he even supports goat marriages.

        • Alinsky Hero USA

          Haven't seen you at Scotts website lately. HAHAHAH!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I haven't heard you advocate beheading people for a while.

            7 hours ago @ Big Government – Occupy-Linked Hacker G… · 0 replies · 0 points
            Not chop, chop, just one single blade coming down fast.

            Your head will still be alive while it is in the basket, but you could never really be anymore brain dead than you are now..

            So, you shut down Scott in less than a dozen comments, you going to put his site on your 'brag about shutting them down' list?

            5 minutes ago @ http://912wolverines.com/ – growl · 0 replies · +1 points
            You know better than anyone that I am a legend.

            You would still be on Breitbart today if I had not taken them down. And you know the vile hate Navy has for me after ruining his website.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I will have to give you all the credit this time. Your stupidity got you banned all alone. And I had the last word on that site, so I win.

            I had the last word, I WIN!!!!!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You didn't win. Nobody win's when Scott is kept from his quest becuase you wouldn't shut up and had to keep going off topic.

            Making fun a serious comment is just what you do to suck the air from the conversation. And that's what you did and kept it up for a dozen comments down the line. And it's what you're doing here too.

            You're just a vile stalker type that wants to shut down debate.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I did win. I totally won, because I had the last word. You will never have the last word on that site, EVER.

            I am the winner.

            It was because of your personal attacks on me and other and defending HiPlains attacks on Cowboy and others, that finally shut that site down.

            Sorry, virgin, you lost.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            First off, you didn't have the last word. If you want to say that you're just delusional.
            I responded to your last comment and my comment stream shows it stuck.

            Second if you think stopping serious sincere debate is winning you're also evil.

            Evil and delusional. Why am I not surprised you'd say something like this?

            20 minutes ago @ http://912wolverines.com/ – growl · 3 replies · 0 points
            "Having your head in a basket would make everyone here pleased.

            And we would keep your head in the basket until your girlfriend came to get you.

            It would dry up and be food for insects. The first time your head was ever used for something useful. "

            You just sound like another well rounded islamic loyal troll.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Try debating on this site instead of making personal attacks on people.

            I won so great. I have the last word, and my comment streams proves it. You OCD will NEVER have the last word on that site, so therefore I am the winner.

            LAST WORD = THE WINNER!!!!!!!!

            HAHHAHAHAAH!!!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Try not being the delusional evil troll that stops debate.

            And my having the last word even if you wont' admit it? So what. Winning a debate isn't about the last word. It's about who was able to convey the ideas and explain why they are right.

            You're still delusional.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            LAST WORD = THE WINNER!!!

            That's all.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Delusional, that's all.
            The rules for liberal and islamic debate are different than the rules of debate for thinking people.

            The two just don't line up very well.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I got the last word, and there is nothing you can EVER do about it. Go to bed tonight KNOWING I had the last word.

            HAHAHHAHA!!

            That is going to be one horrible OCD nightmare you have tonight.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still deluded?
            I was notified of your comment on my email and responded on email. It stuck on my comment stream so it was posted. You didn't get the last word. And even if you had, you didn't win unless your only goal was to destroy Scott's agenda for his own site.

            That's evil and you're despicable.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Responded on e-mail?????

            HAHAHHAAHAH!!!

            I got the last word on the site.

            I am the winner!!!!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes on email. I'm doing it now.And having the next to last word on a site before you drive the owner into shutting it down isn't really a victory for the debater.It's a sign he's so repulsive that the site would rather go silent than try banning all your different profiles.Unlike Navy who stomped you.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Your email didn't go to Scott's site, loser virgin.

            I got the last word, HHAHAHHAAHHA!!!

            That means I have the victory.

            You know it too, that why you are trying to get the last word here.

            But you can NEVER have the last word on Scott's site.

          • defcon 4

            Alinsky Hero, or SOA?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Alinsky Hero.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Oh look you almost had the last word, did you almost win that debate too?

            What a moron.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Your OCD is on hyper drive. You are in a deep sweat.

            I got the last word, and now your OCD needs to comment after me every time.

            But it's too last I won Scott;'s site, I got last word. HAHAH!!

            You are my dog. come here boy, you trained monkey.

            I own you though your OCD.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            it didn't work. You may have been the assigned troll to distract me this morning but it didn't work.

            Tell wee that he's busted and everyone will know of his alias here as early bird.

            And lying about the last word from the coward afraid of navy just doesn't have much weight behind it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Last word on Scott's site = VICTORY!!!!

            And a sad little virgin with OCD can do nothing about it.

          • onepornqueen

            You're skeert of Navy? 'Seems like a pretty good guy to me. Why hate?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Navy is a coward. Does it make you sad to see Roger virgin losing? Is that why you are here?

            You can\t help him.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're the coward.
            And you're the one clearly losing if you think just getting the last word means you win in the realm of ideas.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            The last word does mean victory. your OCD ass knows that.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, having the right position ad being able to explain it does.

            Muslims are strange about things.

          • patriothere

            Luke 14:26

            New International Version (NIV)

            26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And while you're being redundant with the talking points your handler gave you, where does it say to use swords?

            Ask your handler that.

          • patriothere

            The new testament is not a users manual.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Not for muslims, but it is for Christians.

          • patriothere

            No it's not a users manual for anybody.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Wrong. The last word is the victory.

            that's why your OCD can't stop replying even after you made your bogus point.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Not even. Only in the slums of Tehran, that explains a lot about your cockroach mentality.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Last Word!!.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still stupid? Still muslim friendly? Same thing….

          • patriothere

            Luke 14:26

            King James Version (KJV)

            26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still no call to violence, not like surah 9. Boy, you islamists know violence!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It was done before his site crashed.And I don't care if you realize it or not.You were the loser, not because of your muslim friendly thinking on the last word, but because you failed to express or articulate any ideas.You lost so thoroughly the site went away to avoid your kind of spamming.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            It wasn't done before the site crashed.

            Your comment doesn't show up on the site.

            I got the last word, and your OCD ass will have to take that beating, FOREVER!!!

            That's why you always try so hard to get the last word.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Ah, yes.. I did.
            And the site is only up on your cache not the live internet. So, you don't have the last window as it was after you took it.
            And you only won if you wanted to drive it off the web or shut down serious debate about Christianity. Why would any muslim want to shut down a site about a guy discussing his Christian experience? I just can't imagine that one? (sarcasm)

            And you're still here trying to poison this thread by distracting from the real issue that these two acted as islam demanded thy act.

            9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            HAAHAH!!

            Look at how desperate you are. your OCD can't take it. You are having a fit.

            But in the end there is nothing you can do about it. My comment stream proves it.

            I got the last word on the site, and you lost.

            Praise Allah for liking me more than you.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Look how you refuse to discuss serious issues.

            You get nothing, want to learn nothing and troll at the lowest common denominator. THats' why you didnt' realize who had the last word. And I dont' care about that. I cared about the debate and issues. So did the others, even the ones I didn't agree with.

            That's why you wanted to ruin it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I did get the last word..HAHAHHAHH

            No Replies!!!!! Zero replies. Your emial went to NOTHING.

            Last word = Victory!!! Too bad OCD boy.

            23 hours ago @ Do You Believe That? – The Face of Jesus · 0 replies · +1 points
            The topic was Jesus and the bible. So I didn't question the Koran. That's all.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, and you just can't stand that you didn't get a screen shot before the site was taken down.

            You trista trolls must be so upset.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            No replies, ID doesn't lie.

            Last word = victory.

            Alinsky 1/ Virgin 0.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You do.
            Right position-Victory

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You have never won a debate with logic. You can only re-frame it with straw dog arguments…and I had the last word, so I won.

            your OCD knows it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Is that your recreational cannibus talking?

            6 weeks ago @ Breitbart.tv – Cain's Response To Cha… · 1 reply · 0 points
            "Why do you keep asking me how much marijuana I smoke? I told you, I smoke a lot everyday, but I don't know the exact amount of grams…."

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            See. I told you. You can't win, and I get the last word.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            But that's not winning, even if I hadn't posted a reply.

            Not unless you simply targetted his site to ruin it because it discussed Christ and other issues hostile to islam.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            The last word always means you win. that's why you always need your OCD to reply.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Not even. But then you don't have enough intelligence to understad out.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Every single time. It's not hard when I'm talking to someone who abuses cannibus.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            you can't beat me BECAUSE I am on weed, and you are not.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Typical pot head.

            Delusional.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Typical virgin.

            Last word.

            I win.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You never win. YOu come here with nothing to offer. No ideas, no thinking, nothing.

          • onepornqueen

            I haven't seen you shut down anything except for your mind. Delusional much?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I shut down Brietbart and Navy's site.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            If only you kept both hands on your bong all day long and left reasonable people alone. Why is it you pick on folks everywhere but the one place that fights back over at Navy's?

            Why are you either so stupid you can't use your bragged about media expertise to get around a small sites filters and post, or are you just too much a coward?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            The last time you made up the lie that I couldn't get on Navy's failed site, I went on his site and freaked Navy out.

            But I do like that Navy lets everyone call you a homo on his site. That's funny.

            Navy never fights back, he runs away and tried his best to keep me out. He failed on all levels.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The last time I said that you didn't go there and navy was laughing at you.

            Not with you. 'At you' as a failed second rate islamic activist troll. All the brave talk you spew is nothing when you come up against a real US Patriot.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I did go there, you lying virgin. And Navy freaked out, and visited my dashboard.

            Everyone laughs at the way Navy lets EVERYONE call you a homo.

            I love it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You 'followed' him. You didn't post on his site. And he didn't freak out. He was simply amused that you pretend to be smart enough to mess with him.

            And you're still delusional. Such a typical muslim friendly activist.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I followed him AFTER he visited my dashboard.

            I freaked him out and he banned me, then visited my dashboard.

            That coward is so scared of me, I love it.

            But he is not afraid to let everybody call you a homo on his site. All three people who still go on his failed site anyway.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Your version of reality doesn't match what really happens.

            THats' why you've come to a story about the islamic jihad playing out in Boston much like it does in the streets of Pakistan and you've wasted 16 comments now when thinking people care about the system you have loyalties towards wants to kill and murder.

            That's why you're failing and despised like the muslim friendly delusional evil troll that you are.

            Still want to collect my head in a basket and screw my dead eyes?

            And you're still a coward little girly man that's afraid of navy I don't care if you admit it or not. They're all laughing at you off forum until you were just too boring to even bother discussing.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You are wasting comments, YOU!!!!! are the one who brought up
            this topic instead of staying on topic for this site.

            All you have is your little 10 year old girl hope that you can tell on me, so that I stop making a fool of you.

            Praise Allah, that I had the last word on Scotts site, and you are forever the loser.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Stil the liar that doesn't want to let anyone talk about how the barbaric system of forced lifestyle known as islam tried turning a peaceful marathon into the bloody streets of any sharia territory like say Pakistan or Somalia, or Sudan, or Libya, or Syria, or Yemen, or even Chechnya? I can't list all 57 states, I don't like 8th century kinds of places.

            And 7 hours ago you started to derail this thread.
            And if you're going to lie about the last word, why not make it a larger lie and say you have the last word on 5,000,000 stories and have shut down 73 billion websites?

            You're not even a decent liar.
            Don't you have a goat to go visit?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Allah is with me. That is why he gave me the last word on Scott's site.

            you lost, virgin boy, you lost so bad.

            Last word!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Your allah is just about stupid enough to accept you.And having the second last word isn't a victory when you were so completely rejected.Debate is about making your argument win, your ideas. Have you heard of them?In the case for the story the adults are trying to discuss it would be these brothers using pressure cookers for cooking, not blowing people up like barbarians.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            My Allah is your Allah…God.

            I had the last word, and there nothing you can do about it.

            I won.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Your allah is not my Almighty.My almighty never gave permission to lie, ever.My Almighty protected Daniel in the lions den instead of having him use al taqiyya. And my Almighty was strong enough to do it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Your Almighty = Allah.

            Allah protected Daniel in the lions den.

            And Allah gave me the last word on Scotts site. Allah wants you to lose.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The almighty can do that. Allah would have had him lie under al taqiyya then go jihad on the other guys.

            The two are totally different and demand different things from followers.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Allah = God.

            Last Word = Victory!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, the last word doesn't equal victory outside of iran.

            Are you always so 'islamic fundamentalist rat child'?

            And your fake allah wouldn't consider his chosen people to be like pigs and apes and want them driven into the sea.

            Total opposites in tactics and desires. satan was once an angel of light, but never equal to the real God.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Tell me how it feels to not get the last word on Scotts site. I love to know more about your pain, OCD loser.

          • onepornqueen

            What's that O
            CD represent? onecorndrone?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Kevin always comes around when he see's Roger losing

            Thanks.

            Now tell me again you believe that Roger doesn't have a girlfriend.

          • onepornqueen

            Serious question.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Yet you know the answer to it.

            It's wonderful that even Kevin needs to use the old "I don't care" excuse in order to not say what he believes.

            Roger doesn't have a girlfriend.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Roger knows it's none of your business and you're just a sexually deviant stalker. Are you upset that you and patriot both cant' protect wee from my outing him here?

            Oh, and it's not a victory to bore everyone until they leave.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Stop dreaming of Wee virgin. Your love is sickening.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Your dreaming of my head in a basket is sickening.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            No, that's a beautiful thought.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            See. You are the fift that should never be given.

          • Alinsky Hero USA
          • onepornqueen

            Odd. I always thought I was around to watch you lose.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Typical pot head.
            It shows in ways he can't ever guess.

          • .1galtfan

            Minimal sentience, for sure.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger
          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You came to help roger, when he can't stand on his own against me.

            and he was really off his BS game yesterday.

          • KaoBoiLogic

            Muzzies don't even own themselves. How can they own their superiors?

          • KaoBoiLogic

            Why so racist? Why the advocacy of violence? Are you a Muzzie? You sure type like one.

          • .1galtfan

            So, that's where you met here, HardTimer?

          • onepornqueen

            Yet I still go to them. It's a miracle!

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Go to what? Navy has about three people left, even cowboy won't go to that site.

            And remember when the Brietbart site influence media? Make a comment there now and it is forever forgotten.

          • onepornqueen

            There will always be enough gasbags to keep any blog going. Some of them aren't even idiots. 'Sorry 'bout you.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Remember when those sites really believed they could vote Obama out of office?

            so funny.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Remember how all states with voter ID went to anyone but Obama?

            so funny

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            It not funny for racist red states to stop black people from voting. and it still didn't stop Obama.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It's not funny for Chicago hacks to steal elections.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            It's not funny to gerrymander the votes for the House in order to steal the vote.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Like they do in Chicago?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            like they do in every red state.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Links? Sources….?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Prove me wrong.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You made the claim, go for it.

            Idaho, show where they jerrymandered in Idaho.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Go on, I'm waiting for the proof.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You made the claim and you don't have proof. When you used old worn our talking points that happens.

            How much have you used your bong today?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            No proof?

            I win.

            Last word.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You made a claim with nothing to back it up. You didn't win.

            You actually exposed for all to see how empty your claims really are.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            then prove I'm wrong.

          • .1cornpone

            Does your imam know you worship a Jew? Will she take away your goats?
            http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/new_york/saul_a

          • Guest

            You people are ridiculous.

          • .1cornpone

            Thanks, CL. I was afraid we were silly. What a relief!

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Roger like to talk to men.

            He has no other life, except when they laugh at him playing piano at the Salvation Army.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still the stalker. What's wrong, upset you are afraid of Navy? Upset that you're too dumb to post on his site? Upset because you're running low on recreational cannibus?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You are ridiculous according to Guest.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And according to normal folks you're just a freak. No wonder you're a coward and afraid of Navy's site.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            nprmal folks aren't virgins.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            How would you know? When was hte last time you ever got within 30 ft of a normal personN

            Hahahahaha…

            Seriously, you need to cut back on the at bong.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            you are the only 50 year old virgin on ID

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And normal folks have even more insulting labels for you.

          • .1galtfan

            Imagine if that were really true.

          • onepornqueen

            I wonder if the drug-use demographic matches up with that?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Depends on how open the border is for the cartels.

          • onepornqueen

            I am CL, BTW…and corn…and Galt. 'Still love me?

      • patriothere

        I'm not Muslim. I'm not an islamophobe. But the older brother was a boxer. Are we gonna persecute all boxers? Are we gonna start hating Caucasians just because these brothers were from the Caucasus?

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          You're a paid hack troll, you're anything you're paid to be. What handlers do you have signing the paycheck this time?

          6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
          I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          And only muslims approve of goat marriages the way you do.
          3 hours ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 12 replies · 0 points
          "jews do suicide bombs.

          stoning is a jewish thing.

          marrying goats is universal….."

          • patriothere

            You know what loser? YOU'RE a paid hack troll. That is what I have always said!

            Here's your beloved christiantiy for you. Hate hate and more hate. Now I see where you get it from. Your ugly christian heritage.

            “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. luke:14:26

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And where does He say to get swords and actually use them?

            You're still failing until you can tie that text to actual violence.

        • onepornqueen

          New level of stupid. I'm impressed.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            He just keeps reaching lower. And finding it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            He made a great point about the virgin and his best friend.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You just can't get over my rejection can you.

            Do you still dream of baskets and sex acts like the deviant sexual stalker that you are?

            1 week ago @ http://912wolverines.com/ – growl · 26 replies · -9 points
            "That;s right!! There ill be blood you f**kers!!!!

            When you try to make people slaves, you soon find your head in a basket.

            Then I will f**k you in your dead eyeball."

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Exposing you as a virgin is not a come on. But virgin doesn't know anything about sex to understand even basic things.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You really are a stalker in the worst sense of the word.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You really are a virgin that stalks men on line and pretend he has some legit argument.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            This isn't a dating site.
            Is that too many big words for you?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            nobody wants to date you, that's why you are a virgin.

          • onepornqueen

            I, for one, appreciate your fidelity to Roger. Broken families are a national tragedy.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            ?

          • onepornqueen

            You know you have a jones for him.

            Sincerely,

            onecornpone

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            R e t a r d virgins are cute, but I have a girlfriend.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Does she squint a lot?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            That's personal.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Only if I cared or asked seriously.I dont' care. I was mocking you. If you spoke English as a primary language or grew up here you'd have caught it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You asked for personal information, stalker virgin.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, I made a mocking comment not caring about personal information.

            You muslim loyal activists sure have no sense of humor, or the ability to spot it in others.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Prove you didn't really care about getting my personal information.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Prove i do.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Waiting for your proof.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Waiting for you proof.

            Can you prove you exist? Until that happens I can't be bothering to take you credibly.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            No proof from you..
            I win.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You haven't proven you exist. Not wasting time isn't the same as admitting defeat. Show you're real and I might bother.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            doughnut

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No thanks, and I don't want any of your mom's cheetos.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You believe the last word means the winner.

            That's why you are so angry I won on Scott's site.

            There is no reason to have an argument about the word doughnut.

            you just NEED the last word, no matter what I say.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I believe the best idea is the winner.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Your OCD needs the last word, that's why you need to comment after the word chair.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            What's wrong? Trying to distract me here so other trista trolls can comment on other stories?It isn't working is it?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            sofa

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No thanks, I have one.And you're not going to get an invite to see it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            foot rest

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Want your neck dirtied up again?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            towel

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            On your head? I thought they had a arabic name for that.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            stove

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            goat brides

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            staircase

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            beduin tent

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            string

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            pakistani rat child

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            straw

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            rat child

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            glass

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            koranic toilet paper

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            salt

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Daniel Pearl

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            eyelash

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            public hangings

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            bread

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            wahabi style militants

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            button

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            rusty sword beheading

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            bee

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            sharia violence

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            toe

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Egyptian Copts

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            marble

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            little stones thrown at the satan pillar

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            chress

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Now you're using made up words?What a moron.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            library

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Alexandria Library destroyed by Omar

          • onepornqueen

            "Then I will f**k you in your dead eyeball."

            WTH is that?! Muzzie foreplay?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That would explain why so many muslim goats and women squint.

          • onepornqueen

            Ha ha. You're an astute observer of the animal condition.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            foreplay is BEFORE the f**king.

          • onepornqueen

            I was referring to the statement–pay attention.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            It\s my statement.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're just not able to pay enough attention.

          • .1galtfan

            I was referring to the dirty talk and the idiot…

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You missed it.

          • KaoBoiLogic

            Your mother? I just roll her in flour and look for the wet spot.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Arizona racists can't bake.

          • .1galtfan

            It appears you failed sex ed.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "He happened to call himself a Muslim. That's all."

      Just another random coincidence. Sure.

    • JacksonPearson

      "You people make me sick."

      GOOD…Stay sick for a long time.

    • JacksonPearson

      From Allahu Akbar! to ‘Banzai!’ to ‘Heil Hitler!’ and back to ‘Allahu Akbar!’

  • Prav

    aasfsafsdaf

  • Prav

    Before going further with this discussion we must first understand what does Islam and A Muslim means – the Authentic meaning of Islam is Peace and For a Muslim is A one who surrenders his will to Allah (The Creator, The Almighty), and for someone who takes unjust means and does exploitation and spread terror is not following Islam and the one who does not surrender his will to the almighty and take such naive steps is not a Muslim as to no where in Koran would you find verses related to Modern day Terrorism to get inspired with. It’s simply irrelevant to relate Islam and Muslim because the world is a big place and there might be few mislead who call themselves as Muslim but isn’t a Muslim by definition and by Values who becomes terrorist however, we must know that all Muslims are not terrorist.

    • candy

      It is not irrelevant . Islam is the only reason given for 21,000 terrorist attacks since 9/11.
      Hundreds of billions of dollars are spent by muslims for the singular reason of murdering people who disagree with their interpretation of Islam .

      All muslims don't need to be terrorists . Muslim leaders need them to move to foreign countries and establish mosques ,muslim only educational systems ,politicians ,financial systems ,neighborhoods and social groups to push their ideologies onto the native citizens ,convert and subdue them. They need them to cry and whine they are being falsely victimized and blamed every time their brethren carry out a terrorist attack .

    • Jayne

      The real definition of Islam without the PC code is "submission."

    • Christopher C.

      The authentic meaning of Islam is submission. To say that it is a religion of peace is to ignore the fact that first it is a religion of war. Only when the khuffar are all gone will there be peace. So, if you do not subscribe to the post-Qutb back-to-the-roots form of Islam, good for you. May there be many more like you. But also, may you speak up inside your mosque, and be prepared to be rounded upon for what some of your fellow Muslims will call apostacy.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "… the Authentic meaning of Islam is Peace and For a Muslim is A one who surrenders his will to Allah…"

      Dude, we've been over this 10,000 times this year already. Islamic peace is what we had in Boston. You can have all you want but keep it away from Western sovereigns.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Prav, My Taqiyya alarm just went off.

      Do you know why?

  • Hugh Embriaco

    What happened to the links I posted demonstrating the near-universal Muslim condemnation of terrorism in the United States?

    • Jayne

      Near universal???? Are you watching from Saturn? If thousands of Muslims took to the streets condemning the bombing in Boston they would be offending Muhammed and would be in violation of the Quran. When Muslim leaders (CAIR) express outrage at the bombings they are using "any means necessary to advance Islam." In Islam only Muslims are innocent. If you are an infidel you deserve nothing good in life, you are a kaffir. Muslims who are not fervent may really oppose what happened and there are many but it is very dangerous for them to speak out publically now that there are mosques EVERYWHERE! The imams know who they are and where they live. You can thank an uninformed electorate for all this mess who vote with their stupid idea of what makes a competent and patriotic president who really does honor the Constitution. That includes those who voted for Bush, who was always hand-holding the Saudi royals. Please get informed.

    • defcon 4

      The leaders and mouthpieces condemn islamofascist terrorism – while their fellow brethren take to the streets to party.

      Ever heard of the old saw actions speak louder than words?

  • Michael Copeland

    The Islamic doctrine of Taqiyya, authorised lying in the cause of Islam, renders any condemnations of terrorism of doubtful credibility and usefulness. Shahzad Faisal, the Times Square would-be Jihad bomber, took the Oath of Allegiance: “I sweared”, he told the judge, “but I did not mean it”.

    The Islamic cypher codebook also undermines condemnations of terrorism. To a diligent muslim “terrorism” only occurs when kuffar attack muslims, including by cartoons, or failure to apply Sharia, anything, in fact, which sets off the hair trigger “offence”. That is what is being condemned.

    • tagalog

      I guess Faisal must have had his fingers crossed behind his back when he took the oath to tell the truth.

      Any 8-year-old would understand that.

      • Michael Copeland

        It was the Oath of Allegiance to the U.S.A. when he became a naturalized citizen.

        • tagalog

          : )

    • Jayne

      Ahhhh. . . . at last someone who knows something. Sooo refreshing. They're are times I feel like I'm spitting in the wind.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "The Islamic doctrine of Taqiyya, authorised lying in the cause of Islam, renders any condemnations of terrorism of doubtful credibility and usefulness. Shahzad Faisal, the Times Square would-be Jihad bomber, took the Oath of Allegiance: “I sweared”, he told the judge, “but I did not mean it”. "

      AND…all the jihadis and moderate Muslims know this too. They all know it's part of the jihad sharia dance just as Nazis knew why they didn't attack the Soviets on the same day they attacked Poland.

      When the occasional high-profile jihadi uses the words of the apologists, nobody has any good reason to believe it's anything more than calculated deception.

      We need concrete proof rather than deception. When we start seeing sovereigns implement constitutional law that mimics our values we'll know they are serious about joining our axis.

      If you believe in allah as god, we are the axis of evil. If you know allah is contrived it's easy to see where the evil comes from.

    • defcon 4

      The muslime who killed Meir Kahane swore he was innocent and then after being convicted of being involved in the bombing of the WTC in '93' came out and happily admitted to killing Meir Kahane.

  • tagalog

    In an interview, Diane Feinstein said that the best weapon a citizen could use against the Tsarnaevs would be a 12-gauge shotgun, not an "assault weapon." She's right as far as she goes, no doubt a 12-gauge would be a good choice (depending on the load). But if she's entirely correct, how come all those cops had "assault weapons" to use? Those cops also had placed high-capacity 30-round magazines in their "assault weapons." That is going way against what gun expert Diane Feinstein thinks is acceptable.

    I have yet to hear anyone publicly say anything about those cops carrying M-16s or AR-15s, with high-capacity magazines, pistol grips, foregrip handles and undoubtedly other "assault weapon" accessories. Not even on Fox News. Any Sandy Hook parents want to weigh in on the cops and assault weapons thingie? Come on, Dzhokhar was just one guy. He was wounded and alone and the cops knew it. Who needs a 30-round magazine to bring him down, right?

    Weren't the cops being criminal and violating the Massachusetts "assault weapons" ban? I say arrest them at once! They could just as easily have used 12-gauge shotguns, preferably with limited ammo capacity. Especially since they were in an urban environment.

  • EarlyBird

    Hey kids, let's play "Does This Describe an Islamist Fanatic, or a Right Wing Front Page Magazine Zealot?"

    -Interprets religious texts in a fundamentalist manner
    -Wishes to destroy the US federal government
    -Believes the US President is evil
    -Hates liberal, secular American values
    -Believes the world is fundamentally broken and needs to be cleansed
    -Wants to wage constant war around the globe
    -Has zero respect for liberty and the US Constitution
    -Given to sexual prudishness
    -Wants to control the lives of others
    -Wishes to bind theology and government

    Any guesses?

    • reader

      "Any guesses?"

      No guesses. You're a Jew hating troll. You'd be bashing Horowitz even if you lost a leg in Boston.

    • Jayne

      Hey Early bird; seems like you're late to the party but I'll play.
      Reads the Quran as it is written and translated and spouted by Islamic Imams in the public square and on youtube
      Wants the elected representatives in government to actually take their oath to defend the Constitution seriously
      Does not agree with liberal, secular values and can debate anyone who espouses such, with facts and will not resort to dodging questions or name-calling
      Believe the world is a wonderful place populated with people who want to love and be loved and many who need a helping hand
      Sees war as a last resort, and wishes that people around the world could finally escape the shackles that despots and dictators put on them
      Knows that liberty is a God given right which was magnificently put forth in the Constitution
      Does not indulge in perversion nor promotes it and recognizes that people have free will
      Knows that one can only control oneself and recognizes the uniqueness of others
      Wishes to practice a theology of their choice that promotes kindness toward others and recognizes that the foundation of said government was anchored in Judeo-Christian values.

      Be well

    • Omar

      Hey everyone, let's play "Does this describe (a. Zionism or (b. a Left-Wing, Communist Party Zealot?"

      -Interprets extremist texts in a radical manner
      -Wishes to overthrow the U.S. government and replace it with a totalitarian dictatorship
      -Believes that almost all U.S. Presidents are evil
      -Hates classical liberal (modern conservative), democratic American values
      -Believes that the world is dominated by so-called Western "imperialism" and needs to be "changed"
      -Wants to wage constant "race wars" and "class wars" around the world
      -Has absolutely no respect for liberty and the U.S. Constitution
      -Has activists who defend pedophilia
      -Wants to control the rights of other people
      -Wishes to bind atheism, nihilism and government and eliminate the freedom of religion.
      The answer to all of the above is b.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Interprets religious texts in a fundamentalist manner"

      It matters which religious texts, numb nuts.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Wishes to destroy the US federal government"

      Jihadis and communists. But we've been over this before with you.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Believes the world is fundamentally broken and needs to be cleansed"

      So you really are a fake Christian that denies the existence of sin.

      • EarlyBird

        Not at all. Evil is very real and alive. But the whole world doesn't need remaking. That's the attitude of Islamists, communists, Nazis, evangelical Christians and other radicals and extremists who believe God is telling them to remake the world.

        I'm a Christian, not a fundamentalist. Really, in a very broad sense, we are living in a time when fundamentalism is at odds with pluralism and doubt. There is value to doubt, and not believing we know absolutely everything that God wants.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          No fundamentalist Christian following the teachings of Christ as found in the Bible would talk the way you talk.

          Why lie about such a thing? Why not be proud of your muslim loyalties. It would be like Richard Simmons coming out of the closet, We all know anyhow.

          • EarlyBird

            Damn RIGHT I'm not a "Fundamentalist" Christian, Roger. Don't you get it? But perhaps that's the only kind of Christian you can accept?

            And shave that silly moustache.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I dont' even define Hitler as being someone who followed the teachings of Christ.

            And you know what little bird? Wee todd edwards posted your comment almost exactly twice last night on disqis.

            Did you just out yourself?

          • EarlyBird

            "And you know what little bird? Wee todd edwards posted your comment almost exactly twice last night on disqis."

            Was that a sentence? Who is "Wee Todd Edwards?" Who is "disqis?"

            My points are not original. It's very clear where the similarities between fanatics and extremists are. Where Islamist extremists would kill us all and destroy the American way of life, you would only destroy the American way of life by installing some racist, war-mongering theocracy on us.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Your points are never original.

          • onepornqueen

            Islam's not a religion, so…nope.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Not at all. Evil is very real and alive. But the whole world doesn't need remaking."

          That's a blanket statement that doesn't explain your comment and still leaves you outside the reservation. It's amazing how often you shoot your mouth off before finding something useful to say.

          "That's the attitude of Islamists, communists, Nazis, evangelical Christians and other radicals and extremists who believe God is telling them to remake the world."

          Anyone who gets up in the morning with any idea to working towards a better life can say be said to want to "remake the world" in some fashion. What you're trying to do is find equivalence rather than point out distinctions. In other words, all you do is find arguments to try to obscure salient facts that allow distinctions to be made.

          "I'm a Christian, not a fundamentalist."

          I'm a pilot, but not a fundamentalist. I'm a scientist, but not a fundamentalist. I'm a photographer but not a fundamentalist. I'm a free spirit and since I reject fundamentals you have no idea what any of that means.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Really, in a very broad sense, we are living in a time when fundamentalism is at odds with pluralism and doubt."

          Right. You're more concerned about being accepted than anything else. You identify with Christianity for some unknown reason, and that makes you a cultural Christian. You feign faith here and there were it seems culturally acceptable to do so.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "There is value to doubt, and not believing we know absolutely everything that God wants."

          It depends very much on what you believe and what you doubt. Again you try to obscure rather than clarify. That seems to be your entire life's mission as far as anyone here can tell.

          Very few if any Christians would claim to know absolutely everything God wants. Your claims on the other hand show us that you are a cultural Christian acting like leftists expect "Christians" to act just as jihadis have expectations of dhimmis. You're allowed by the left to be "Christian" under certain circumstances but you'll find it won't do you much good other than finding bingo games and book clubs.

      • EarlyBird

        Oh yeah. And another trait you have in common with Islamist fanatics, your constant attempt to ex-communicate those from your tribe for apostasy, that being not being as radical as you.

        Let's see: a conservative who believes that the Iraq War was a disaster, or that certain tax rates need to be raised, or Defense needs to be cut, or that some form of amnesty for illegals is the only practical solution, is not a "real" conservative, and needs to be purged. Remember, the Islamists biggest target are fellow Muslims who are not fanatical enough.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          You little man.
          We don't. You don't understand Christianity enough to even try defining it.

          So much hate, so little brain. So little visible neck. Such a wee little guy you are.
          And the biggest target according to mohammed is us.
          9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

          • EarlyBird

            You wouldn't know Christianity if it bit you on your flabby white a$$. Hint: it is not about hating the right people, or about nationalism, or waging war around the globe in the name of God.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yawn…. oh were you spewing more muslim loyal hate again?

            islam is about hating the right / wrong kinds of people. You have it down so well, it's almost, amazing how you do that.

          • onepornqueen

            You're right. It's largely about recognizing and avoiding evil. Take a puro outta petty stash.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "And another trait you have in common with Islamist fanatics, your constant attempt to ex-communicate those from your tribe for apostasy, that being not being as radical as you."

          You think you make sense but only leftists think like you. Nobody did anything but rebuke your BS. Poor you.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Remember, the Islamists biggest target are fellow Muslims who are not fanatical enough."

          That's not true. You're so full of BS.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "-Hates liberal, secular American values"

      Jihadis and communists like your beloved POTUS.

    • defcon 4

      Sounds like islam to me, of course that's your one big blind spot Ahmed.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Wee, when you post on different forums and pretend to be other people try to vary your style a little more. http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/DA5QR8L00#co

      "CHRISTIANITY IS FAR-RIGHT-WING TERRORISM!

      -Attacks against abortion clinics
      -Priests raping children
      -Rwanda massacres
      -KKK
      -Catholic terror in Vietnam
      -Catholic extermination camps during WWII
      -Murder of Native Americans
      -Persecution of Jews
      -Crusades
      -Witch trials
      -Heretics"

      You just aren't up to this, are you?

      • EarlyBird

        You regularly try to say I'm some other poster, further proof that you're paranoid. When anyone else starts telling you to shave the ridiculous moustache, you'll know it's me.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          I'm sure people will read and make their own call on it.

          • patriothere

            Yeah, he's original. He's not a troll like you roger. You dirty zionist muslim-hating troll!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Down to calling be a dirty Jew lover now?

            You muslim loyal trolls are so predictable.

          • patriothere

            You're a dirty lying muslim-hating zionist troll

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Back to the keith is great kinds of insults.

            Why not just start calling me a dirty Jew?

          • patriothere

            I said you are a dirty lying muslim-hating zionist troll.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And you're a paid hack troll, a 'rented mouth' so you have to say anything they pay you to say.

          • patriothere

            you are a dirty lying muslim-hating zionist troll.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Go ahead, call me a dirty Jew. You know you want to!

          • patriothere

            Well you act like one.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Poor little 'rented mouth'. Do all Jews just out think you all day long too?

          • patriothere

            No I check jews like you all the time.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You as a 'rented mouth' don't check the time of day when you're looking at a clock.

          • patriothere

            Somebody has to check these liars.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You are the liar, and I check you constantly. But I don't use that term. I 'expose' you constantly.You're just a 'rented mouth' so it's not hard.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            traitorhere,

            You're a dirty lying, stabbing, shooting, bombing, raping, hijacking islamofascist troll.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Touche. You left off the universally accepted goat wives.
            3 hours ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 12 replies · 0 points
            "jews do suicide bombs.

            stoning is a jewish thing.

            marrying goats is universal…."

          • patriothere

            Did they actually pay you to respond?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Like you? Nope, I'm not employed to do this.

          • patriothere

            You're a paid hack troll. I'm the one that made you change your old photo because it gave away your place of employment. Some paid hack troll center.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Really? Forget saying this?

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            I stand by the statement where I said I am not a paid hack troll like you!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And a previous troll on your profile lost his muslim temper and said this. So, you're the 'rented mouth' here.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            There are no previous users. You invented that in your head because you are a psycho!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So you think that goat brides are universally accepted then?

          • patriothere

            Everything I have said I have elaborated and stand by.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, I know, other than the outburst about the rented mouth.You still think that goat brides are accepted universally? I don't even think the more liberal Canada accepts them. Do you have links or sources?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I wouldn't even know who to apply to for a job trolling.Did you just talk to your local cleric?

          • patriothere

            You can lie all you want, but I still remember how I made you change your photo after I called you on your troll center.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You didn't make me blow my nose. I have changed my photo based on whim. I like to keep it current.

            And you? Do you not post a photo because you're a coward and scared I'll spot your goats in the background?

          • onepornqueen

            "You dirty zionist muslim-hating troll!"

            You say that like it's a bad thing.

          • patriothere

            It's bad to most human beings. But for trolls like you and roger, it's just a pay check.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Not to human beings per se. Just the ones unfortunate enough to be born from a muslim father and fearing an honor killing if they escape the 8th century.

          • patriothere

            Occupation is bad. Aparheid is bad. Racism is bad. The murder of innocent women and children are bad. Circumcision is bad. War is bad.

            These are all bad things according to human beings.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Then give the copts the right of return and make the arabs leave Egypt.

          • patriothere

            Give the Palestinians the right of return.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Sure, the Saudi Arabia won't need expatriates to do their work for them!

          • patriothere

            There are refugees in jordan and lebanon and syria. They have the right of return.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            islam is from the saudi desert, let Saudi arabia give then all the right of return.

          • patriothere

            Islam is an outgrowth of christianity and judaism.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That would be like saying that a goat turd is an out growth of grass and grain.

          • patriothere

            No, it would be like saying that Islam is an outgrowth of christianity and judaism.

            christianity has more foundation with Islam than it does with judaism.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The Almighty has nothing in common with the barbarism of allah.And the fake allah can't overcome the power of the God of Israel.

          • patriothere

            They are the same god. They are two words saying the same thing. Allah is Arabic for god. Hashem. Adonai.

            There is no god, just the wishes and determination of the writers of these hateful passages.

            Matthew 10:34

            King James Version (KJV)

            34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Nope, total opposites. That's why the fake allah can't destroy the people of the Almighty.

          • onepornqueen

            Suffer delusions of humanity much?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Not when he's with his wife, the universally accepted goat.

          • onepornqueen

            LOL. Well, at least she has a passing familiarity with "tolerance."

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            traitorhere,

            Your prophet muhammed is the prophet of SATAN..

            You are now doomed for reading the above.

          • patriothere

            Satan is an anagram for santa.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Did they actually pay you to say that?

          • cowboilogic

            "Heap" and "parrot" are anagrams for patriothere. What's your point?

    • kaz

      how bout this one: strives to replace the legal population of the united states with enemies of america. who does that characteristic describe?

  • candy

    And as we always see with spree / mass murderers ,copycats soon follow.

    O'FALLON, Ill. (KSDK) – We are learning more about the 18-year old O'Fallon, Ill. student who is charged with possessing illegal bomb-making materials.

    Authorities say Thomas Stanton of Lebanon had four bombs, including two cricket-bombs, ready-to-go when he was arrested Friday.

    The U.S. Attorney's Office wants to talk to the anonymous tipster who told authorities there were bomb-making materials inside Stanton's home.

    We subsequently found bomb-making materials. We subsequently found two Molotov cocktails which were ready for use," said U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Illinois Stephen Wigginton.

    The search of the Stanton home included federal, state, and local authorities.

    Wigginton says the case took on added significance because of the Boston Marathon bombings.

    "Given the possibility for mass destruction, for great destruction, particularly in a high school, very seriously," said Wigginton.
    http://www.ksdk.com/news/crime/article/376762/147

  • Ellman

    “Be in this temporary world a stranger/Infidels rule the earth/for the faithful life is torture.” Islam has finally arrived at the point where it has realized that its ideas, ideals, practices, rules, values, etc. have become completely and irreconcilably discordant and incompatible with the rest of the world. 'Infidels rule the world' and the only alternative left to Islamists is to destroy the infidel world even if it means destroying the Islamist world as well. Islam is the most belligerent, hateful, vindictive, supremacist, and pathological system ever invented. It's adherents are not capable of comprehending or accepting how morbid and irrelevant it is in today's world. They will use martyrdom to destroy infidels, themselves and their unacceptable inferiority complex which tears at their souls. They are inferior and they know it. That's what 911 and the Boston Massacre 2013 are all about.. Better dead than inferior!

    • defcon 4

      If we look at Pakistain, Bangladesh and India we can see your theory in action. All three nations were created at roughly the same time (Bangladesh somewhat later), yet India is the only state that actually has a vibrant economy and freedom — the others are benighted, totalitarian, islamofascist misery theme parks whose non-muslim populations are rapidly disappearing due to islamofascist persecution.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        " the others are benighted, totalitarian, islamofascist misery theme parks whose non-muslim populations are rapidly disappearing due to islamofascist persecution. "

        You are of course speaking of Eurabia.

  • Ellman

    "Like Anwar al-Awlaki and Nidal Hasan, they wanted an American identity that would be based on Islam in the same way that Chechen identity was based on Islam. They wanted it because they believed it to be the only possible way of making America over into a country that would reflect their own values."

    With this remark David has expressed the synchronicity between Islamists, Communists, communists, progressives, liberals, Democrats, the NAACP, CAIR, the Muslim Brotherhood – every group and ideology that has ever hated the US that the Founders of this nation had established. The greatest and holiest man that ever lived was crucified on a cross. Why should the United States receive different treatment from those that hate it with every cell in their being? Why did Bill Ayers bomb various sites? For the same reasons that the Tsarnaev brothers did.

  • jzsnaake

    I'm still not convinced the younger brother was just a dupe of his older brother. Really looks stupid when I have read what I wrote but still can't help but think it's possible,

  • .1cornpone

    I rest my case. In the mortal words of the blog idiot,

    "I win.

    Last word."

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    See, you're the confused one.
    And you were referring to the wet spot joke.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    5 hours ago @ Frontpage Magazine – Islam’s World War Ca… · 1 reply · -1 points
    you can't beat me BECAUSE I am on weed, and you are not.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You are clueless.

    islam- submission. You don't own yourself and jihad is the excuse they can use to have you kill yourself.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still clueless?Typical.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still clueless?

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    Your "witty comments" need footnotes to explain the "funny."

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No, they were 4th grade level humor that any US citizen would have picked up on. Even with english as a second language you keep exposing yourself.

  • .1cornpone

    I don't need footnotes, you need Cliffnotes. Final word = you lose.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    explain it then virgin.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You're the expert in the media and you don't know about wet spot jokes?

    Come on. What a muslim type troll. If you were really from the US and had any experience in cultures outside of Iran or other sharia hell holes you'd know that one.

    Ever 'dive' so you could eat 'fish'?

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    wasn't referring to the wet spot joke.

    You are a very confused little virgin.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I'm not the confused one.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    Yes, you don't even know what "witty comment" of Kevins I was talking about.

    Little virgin got it wrong again.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    No, I wasn't. Prove it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why? You're probably just to 'altered'.

    5 hours ago @ Frontpage Magazine – Islam’s World War Ca… · 1 reply · -1 points
    you can't beat me BECAUSE I am on weed, and you are not.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    Re-framing I see.

    Prove I was talking about you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Dodging the bullet?
    And you didn't know who Kevin said it about.

    Little muslim activist troll got it wrong again.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Prove you weren't.

    Reframing it to cover for you stupid again I see.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    Prove it, I'm waiting.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    I was talking to Kevin.

    Kevin was hurt by me very badly today.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    How many times?I've proven it lots now, why should I let you pretend you're credible and take you seriously again?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Not here, did you two chat someplace else that I missed?

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    You miss a lot.

    He almost started to cry after I was done with him.

    Like you cried in your pillow after learning I got the last word on Scotts site.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    You didn't prove it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Ah, the recreational drug use. It's all making sense now.

    5 hours ago @ Frontpage Magazine – Islam’s World War Ca… · 1 reply · -1 points
    you can't beat me BECAUSE I am on weed, and you are not.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course I have. It's the two handed bong, isn't it?

    5 hours ago @ Frontpage Magazine – Islam’s World War Ca… · 1 reply · -1 points
    you can't beat me BECAUSE I am on weed, and you are not.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Yes, and Christians have faced persecution since His life here.

    And today because of Christ Christians are martyred in muslim lands constantly.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Quote it exactly.Changing words does' t work in a quote.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And swords have met His believers since.It was accurate, but it's not Jesus saying we are to use them. You can't show Jesus used violence.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still changing words.Shame on you, you muslim paid hack trolls are all alike.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still using your quote with the words changed?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still using the flawed quote with the words changed?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still can't show where Jesus used violence.And His prophecy was accurate, His followers have been facing a sword much of the time since the statement was made.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    surah 9, any translation.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Surah 9 in any translationThat's violence. Warning about persecution isn't Jesus being violent like that muslim mandate in surah 9.Now, that's violence!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    How about we compare that to surah 9?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And since Jesus was here a sword has been sent against His followers.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And people have sent a sword against Christians since Jesus was here.So, Jesus was right and warned us about what was to come.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And since Jesus was here a sword has been sent against His followers. Just like He warned.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And the message of Jesus has ignited persecution for His followers since that warning was given.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    ?.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    If you had tried weed, you wouldn't be a virgin trying to talk to men online, with no logical arguments to provide.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    Waiting for the proof.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Yes, you're clueless.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I don't need any chemical altered state of mind to have a life.You? You don't have one even with it.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    You have no life.

    No girlfirend.

    no piano.

    and 17 hours on ID very day.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And why is that any of your business? Are you my mother?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I'm waiting for proof you're a real person.

    What mosque did you become radicallized in?

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    Your mother disowned you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still the coward afraid of real Americans at Navy's site?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    pig skin coffinsfor islamic militants

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    blue

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    ?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    When did He say His goal was an army with swords?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And you haven't shown he came to cause violence.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Can you show Jesus used or asked His followers to use violence?Of course not. Cut and paste from someone that doesn't' even keep track of daily cannibus intake.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    blueberry

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    re-framing.

    He said he didn't come by peace.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still pathetic?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Haven't you quoted the text where I'm to focus on Jesus?So, even if it was true why would that stop my love for God?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And you haven't shown he came to cause any violence.

    What is really happenign here. Do you think you're going to keep me so busy I can't watch for the others?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Unless you can show He taught His followers to use violence, you're the one re-framing.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    when he said he didn't come by peace.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    Jesus said he didn't come by peace. So no peace = violence.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still the coward, what's wrong too much munchies to use more than one word?

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    chair

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And where did Jesus use violence?Peace would be no persecution and no Christian martyrs. That hasn't happened. So, you are reframing.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    suicide is violent.

    no peace = violence.

    If you believed in the dictionary, you would know that.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And if you had a dictionary that didn't think today's usage was the only usage you would know more.And where did Jesus teach violence?No teachings on violence – no suicides. So, no suicide bombs from Baptists.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No thanks.I wouldn't want the time of day from you if you had the only watch in the room.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    armchair

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    fork

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    chopsticks

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    phone

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    I proved you think the last word wins.

    That's why your OCD NEEDS to comment after the word sofa.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Down to baby talk now?How sad.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Not a chance.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I proved you just can't type and spam a site faster than I can type responses to it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Not really. Winning is the idea that is debated until it makes sense. You don't know how.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    Except I have the proof. No replies to my comment on Scotts site.

    I got the last word, and your OCD is lost.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    headlight

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    place mat

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Ah, poor little ocd can't stand I got that one in?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I have enough. Go away.Stalker.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Did someone lace your stache with drain cleaner?

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    candle

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    mouse

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    jihad johnny

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    rape victims stoned

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    backpack

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    west

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    shoelace

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    microphone

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    fence

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    hammer

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    choclate

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    call to prayers

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    used goat

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Aisha

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    halil

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    I got the last word on Scott's site, and that's why you are angry and made up a lie that you believe the best idea is the winner.

    That's why you need to comment after the word hammer. You exposed youself with your OCD.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    scissors

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You go ahead and pretend that.But we both know better.Scott's site is doing fine without you.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    you are pretending but your OCD exposes you. You have to have the last word. I control you. All I have to do is wroite a word like piano or paperclip, and you have no control over yourself. You MUST reply. You are my trained monkey knowing that I control your acrions.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You're just mad you can't ruin another site and that it goes on without you.And I replied to your last comment. Deal with it.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    shelf

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    koran flushing

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    koran burning

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    north

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    sauce

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    toaster

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    elevator

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    mole

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    bus

  • patriothere

    John 20:19

    King James Version (KJV)

    19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Neda

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Lebanon Christians

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    wife beating islamic style

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    honor killing

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    lose woman induced earthquake

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    box

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    rock

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    typerwriter

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    somalian pirates

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    ramadan bombings

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    seed

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    side

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    corner

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Benghazi attack

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    prayer mat

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    ocean

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    spray

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    more, and more ramadan bombings

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    arranged marriages/forced inbreeding

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    forced caliphate

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    ambush for unbelievers

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    rape as a weapon in war

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    wave

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    necklace

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    popcorn

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    eagle

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    strawberry

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    tribal sharia councils

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    sharia courts

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    child brides

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    islamic vultures

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    feather

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    date

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    muslim style wife beating

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    victory mosques

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    What happened, did your handlers hand you a dictionary and tell you to use certain words so they can avoid dealing with you?

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    April

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    bracelet

  • Alinsky Hero USA
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    ramadan violence

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    muslim loyal trolls

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    June

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    That explains the cannibus abuse and constant nonsense comments.It must be a horrible prison you live in.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    That's why you have the cumpution to respond to anything I type, just random words. And that's how I proved you believe the last word is the winner, and I beat you on Scotts site. The pain you must suffer. HAJAHAHA

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    born islam without choice

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    When you spew turrets style words I reply with the reasons islam is barbaric.How much do you smoke in order to pretend you're worth the air you use?

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    I know the way you respond, the point is you are cumplsed to respond like a Pavlov dog that I own.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    muslim troll boy, you're the predictable one.You're do things in a particular order.1)lie2)defend that lie with more lies, and toss personal attacks on top of it.3)smear and harass anyone that maintains your lie is still a lie.And how is that recreational drug use working for you?

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    I didn't lie. you are denying the word of Jesus, because you don't want to be exposed as a hate filled violent Christian.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You misquoted the text in order to come to your flawed conclusion.Then you stuck to it when I explained you were wrong. That is lying.And I don't advocate violence outside of self defense. You do.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    -july

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    streetlight

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    Jody, the lady you know so well.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    arranged marriages, with related people(inbreeding)

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    apple

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    prison rapes in Iran

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    Jody, the one you know so well.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Who is Jody? You do realize my last name is a common one.You just looked bad with all the 'Jesus was violent' lies.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    Who is Jody? is not denying you know Jody, now is it. You know her. You know her well, and you can't deny it. This is the same stratagy you use to hide your shame for having no girlfriend.

  • patriothere

    So don't say that all christ ever said was to love god and love your neighbor. Because that is NOT all that he said.

  • patriothere

    jesus told his followers to hate. they spread this hateful religion all over the world. evangelize remember?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    He said a lot of other stuff, like the Golden rule too.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    He told His followers not to have even family ahead of our love for Him.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And islam is a perfect example of that.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    In your small minded islamic circles. Not for western culture.

  • patriothere

    No luke 14:26 is a perfect example of that.

    Luke 14:26

    New International Version (NIV)

    26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

  • patriothere

    Every religion in that area has a golden rule

    You don't believe me? Look it up yourself.

    But prove to me that jesus spoke of the golden rule. let's see you can even prove your point. Give me the verse.

  • patriothere

    he came by the sword. jesus was gay.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And what is it for islam?Kill them before they kill you?That surah 9 mandate thing is a real bear.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And you're a purple pony that dances in the full moon.Come on troll, either be serious or I hope they ban you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Did your handlers say that makes sense? Suicide bombs lead to hate.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Having God first makes the rest possible.Too bad for you with all the handlers and surah 9 mandates and all.

  • patriothere

    hate your neighbors hate your self hate your parents.

    Boy that sure goes against all that bull**** you were saying about loving god and loving your neighbor.

  • patriothere

    Look it up yourself troll boy.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    It's not. But it is clear mohammed wanted you to die in jihad. Why not do that in pakistan where some stupid sunni isn't really a muslim at all and might deserve a car bomb in the market place?Isn't that what islam teaches?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Pretty clear you didn't read the rest of the chapter.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    This from the paid hack? Is that supposed to be a compliment?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You admitted why you're here.

    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I have, and why do you want me to be a troll? Is it lonely being a rented mouth? (No, I'm not interested, that was me mocking you)

  • patriothere

    Okay then troll boy. You know then that every place in the region has a golden rule.

  • patriothere

    You're a troll.

  • patriothere

    Hate your own life? That's terrible advice.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You're back. Did you need a couple of days out in the goat pen to work off some stress?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I still don't see any violence there.

    Do the handlers think that comment will stop any debate? You use it so often even if you've been shown it's wrong. Do you think it will drive anyone away from here or somthing?

    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You should at least pretend your comment matches the comment you're responding to.You can't bother to do that? Your handlers must have not sobered up enough to give you good comments.

  • patriothere

    I don't see any love or peace in there.

    I just see hate in there because jesus advocated hate. hatred for your parents brothers and sisters and your own life!

  • patriothere

    It's pretty clear that jesus clearly said to hate your own life and your parents and your brothers and sisters.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You don't see any car bombs there.

  • patriothere

    He was not a man of peace. He did not say love your neighbor. He said hate your neighbor.

    Matthew 10:34

    King James Version (KJV)

    34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

  • patriothere

    You can't show muhammad used violence either.

  • patriothere

    You have something against the King James Version?

  • patriothere

    jesus advocated hate.

    Luke 14:26

    New International Version (NIV)

    26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

  • WeeToddEdwards

    With all the Scripture you've been quoting lately, I can only conclude you're about to covert. Good on you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    That doesn't say anything about violence.Your muslim talking points don't hold up so well outside sharia territories.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still using the quote with the words changed?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course I can.Muhammad: Legacy of a Prophet . Muhammad and Violence and Jihad | PBS

  • DaDuesche

    Be careful Roger, you're fixing to throw a clot….

  • patriothere

    It's the king james version.

  • patriothere

    Hate breeds violence.

  • patriothere

    The king james version says what it says.

  • patriothere

    You can't show muhammad used violence.

  • patriothere

    You got a problem with the king james version? Would you rather have the lollipop kingdom version?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    With islam you're demanded to do both.

    But you're trying to put that on another culture that is different.

    That's why your rant is ringing empty.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    When islam invaded they should have expected push back.

    And they wanted the fight and invited it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    But invading Christian Kingdoms in the name of allah is fine?

    See you can't have it both ways. islam invaded and the Byzantine Empire defended itself. It was too little too late, but it was self defense.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course you did. When you post on a profile you're stuck with the baggage that comes along with it.

    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Don't blame me if a former rented mouth had a hair trigger muslim temper.There was also another one that said goat brides were universal. Want to pretend that never happened?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Oh really?

    3 hours ago @ KTLA-TV – Local Reaction to Obam… · 12 replies · 0 points
    "jews do suicide bombs.

    stoning is a jewish thing.

    marrying goats is universal….."

    So, any other things that they didn't tell you about this profile when you were asigned to it?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Are you fixing to throw an obama?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And it still doesn't say that Jesus uses violence or wants His followers to do so. It still doesn't prove that Christianity is equal to the surah 9 mandates.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    When thou speaketh thus it offends my innermost heart of hearts.

    It's archaic and sometimes pretty. But the language has moved on.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And still no call for violence. Not like surah 9.

    So you still didn't prove anything other than you're so imbedded in sharia you see violence in everything.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I just used a link, I can link to it again.
    http://www.pbs.org/muhammad/ma_violence.shtml

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Have I? Then why don't you know about earlier comments made on this profile?

    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    "I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out."

    You do realize as a paid hack troll you are in essence a 'rented mouth'?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Am I? I don't think so. You're not even aware of the comments made on this profile.You're mentally ill if you didn't think I”d notice.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You would make that one up if it meant you could put your own spin on things to keep your handlers happy.

  • patriothere

    I use the king james version.

  • patriothere

    You have serious mental problems. You invented the idea of multiple posters in your head. You invented that I was a troll in your head. You are a psycho.

  • patriothere

    That doesn't prove Muhammad used violence. He didn't.

  • patriothere

    Hate leads to violence.

  • patriothere

    When you read the fact that jesus advocated hate you understand why you have people like the westboro baptist church.

    Luke 14:26

    New International Version (NIV)

    26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

  • patriothere

    Luke 14:26

    New International Version (NIV)

    26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

    Hate leads to violence.

  • patriothere

    The invading christians is not a vice for the lollipop kingdom.

  • patriothere

    With christianity you have to hate your own life.

    Luke 14:26

    New International Version (NIV)

    26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And still can't show Jesus used or advocated for violence.So, you're still just a rented mouth.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Sure it does and he did.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still don't see any violence in that.Where do you see the violence exactly? You don't. You just want to attack Christianity for things it doesn't have.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And where is the violence in this one?Christ never used violence, unlike mohammed.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Maybe in your islam. Christ didn't say a thing about violence in that text. Do all rented mouths sound as lame as your, or just the ones with lame handlers?

  • CountingRoger

    Wow Roger. You are a legend in your own mind. In the past six days, you have made a total of 792 posts. The problem is, you haven't said anything of relevance.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course I have.

    The big words confuse you.

  • UncleSi

    You are the one who is confused Roger. You don't know whether to pitch or catch for HiPainsDrizzler.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I'm not confused at all. And you're the troll who pitches and catches for sharia values.

  • UncleSi

    I'm sorry I can't follow you to the Growl Roger, but they won't let me post there, and that DeuseBag Navy has me blocked as well.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I can't blame them. In fact I applaud them. Some day when you can make actual comments and not repy on insults then maybe you can make up another guest profile and try again.

  • patriothere

    As long as the lollipop kingdom has self defense.

  • patriothere

    I never admitted it. Like I said, you interpreted what I said to mean something other than what I really said. It's part of your psychosis.

  • patriothere

    Hate leads to violence. Peace and love doesn't lead to violence. Hate does.

  • patriothere

    No he didn't. You have no proof. None whatsoever.

  • patriothere

    Yes, you are.

  • patriothere

    matthew 10:34

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Don't see Jesus using any violence in that text. What was your point?Oh – that His followers have had persecution since then?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Surah 9

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    In islam perhaps.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course it proved it and you know mohammed loved violence.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Poor little troll, did the handlers not warn you ahead of time about the lame trolls who worked this profile?

  • patriothere

    Violence in the new testament

  • patriothere

    Go ahead.

  • patriothere

    jesus loved violence.

  • patriothere

    No in Luke 14:26

    New International Version (NIV)

    26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

  • patriothere

    Yes you do

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Go ahead? I already have.Your'e a slow one.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    What violence? It wasn't something that Jesus used, or taught for His followers.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course not. And He didn't teach it for His followers.mohammed did. Why don't you talk about that? Jihad is an islamic word, not a Christian word.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Wow, sounds like the opposite of surah 9 where you're told to ambush all unbelievers.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No violence there. There is in surah 9.

  • patriothere

    He advocated violence. That is my point.

  • patriothere

    You're trying to use the argument Muslims use.

  • patriothere

    People have sent a sword against Muslims. Don't try to steal their legitimacy.

    jesus advocated violence.

  • patriothere

    Jesus advocated violence. That was his point.

  • patriothere

    It has led to violence.

  • patriothere

    muhammad warned that the sword would come to his followers. He was right.

  • patriothere

    It sounds like Rick sanchez and helen thomas would agree that nobody said anything for fear of the jews.

  • patriothere

    Yes he did.

    You're not fooling anyone.

  • patriothere

    Muhammad warned about persecution. Not jesus. Jesus advocated violence.

    Matthew 10:34

    King James Version (KJV)

    34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

  • patriothere

    No you haven't.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    But Jesus didn't advocate violence, that's my point.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course not. Jesus didn't use violence or advocate for it.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course not. The major religion advocating violence is islam.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course Jesus didn't advocate violence. And that sword has been persecuting Christians even before the barbaric islamists came along.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course surah 9 has led to violence, that's the last word of mohammed on the subject.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    No, mohammed wanted them to act as he did. Ambush people and kill them. It's what cowards do.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Unlike you I don't have to fool anyone.Facts speak for themselves.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Mohammed told them to be the ones doing the persecution.surah 9

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course I have. And you still can't admit it because of your handlers. That old 'rented mouth' is amazingly out of touch with reality.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Are your handlers drinking again?

  • patriothere

    of course jesus advocated violence.

  • patriothere

    The lollipop kingdom has a right to defend his people.

  • patriothere

    luke 14:26 has led to violence.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    And the handlers are drinking too much. Such a bunch of racists.

    1 hour ago @ Frontpage Magazine – Egypt Designates Israe… · 0 replies · 0 points
    Israel should be destroyed by the rest of the world who hates racism and apartheid.

  • patriothere

    of course you haven't.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course he didn't. We know you're not here for serious debate, but to stop it. So, why are you here on an old story? The debate here is over.

    Is this a warmup for a new troll just getting used to the humiliation?

    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Try making sense. Tell your handlers to put down the goat skin and the pipe. It's not even funny toying with you when you're this pathetic.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course not. It leads to having God first in your life.

  • patriothere

    Yes, really.

  • patriothere

    Yes he did. I quote it regularly.

  • patriothere

    Christianity and judaism are more violent.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You've already made it clear how you feel about the Jews.
    42 minutes ago @ http://912wolverines.com/ – growl · 0 replies · 0 points
    We want to see israel destroyed. Israel is coming apart at the seams! They can't even manage gaza. You know gaza? That open air concentration prison camp? Well israel can't beat hezbollah, can't manage gaza and they want to get into a war with Iran? HA! What a joke. I hope israel does try something stupid like that because that will be the end of israel.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Still the troll, still the 'rented mouth'?

  • patriothere

    The jews want me to be their slaves. I will never surrender to their tyranny!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You don't have to, you're a paid troll here just to stop debate. Teh arabs in Israel live a life more free than the Jews in Saudi Arabia.
    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Yes really? That cut and paste comment must have been put on the wrong reply. Can't you even just post comments like normal trolls? What a loser.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    I don't have a cover, and you only blow your own.

    6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
    I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    You haven't even blown you own nose. I don't have cover. And you haven't exposed anything other than your'e a hack paid troll.

  • patriothere

    of course he did. I've quoted him a bunch of times.

  • patriothere

    I stand by the statement that israel should be destroyed. If the nazis deserved to be destroyed then so do the israelis

  • patriothere

    jesus advocated violence!

  • patriothere

    You invented that in your head!

  • patriothere

    No. You really are a psycho.

  • patriothere

    I blew your cover and I will never forget that. You left your huge call center in the background.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Of course not. But as a paid hack troll you have to say that if the handlers say so.

  • patriothere

    I blew your cover and I will never forget that. You left your huge call center in the background

  • patriothere

    Matthew 10:34

    King James Version (KJV)

    34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

  • patriothere

    LOL! Not even.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    What cover? That you're a paid hack troll?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Yes, even.9:5Then, when the sacred months have passed,slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

  • patriothere

    not even

  • patriothere

    No you are.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Yes, even.

  • patriothere

    You don't think. You parrot whatever your handlers tell you.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Says the hack paid troll.