Majority of Netherlands Favors Ban on Sharia Law


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Polls don’t mean that much unless there are political parties and leaders willing to implement them. The Netherlands may represent the first time that the counterjihad stars have aligned in a single country. Wilders’ popularity is rising and tolerance for Islamic terror is declining.

More than three quarters of the Dutch (77 percent) believe that Islam is no enrichment for our country. More than two-thirds – 68 percent – say that there is enough Islam in the Netherlands. It is striking that a majority of voters from all political parties (from PVV to VVD, CDA, D66, PvdA, SP and 50plus) share this view.

PvdA is the Netherlands Labour Party. SP is the Socialist Party.

A poll conducted by the research bureau of Maurice de Hond (the Dutch equivalent of Gallup), commissioned by the PVV, among a representative sample of over 1,900 people also shows other striking results:

A majority of 55 percent favors stopping immigration from Islamic countries.

63 percent say: no new mosques.

72 percent favor a constitutional ban on Sharia law in the Netherlands.

64 percent say that the arrival of immigrants from Islamic countries has not been beneficial to the Netherlands.

Nearly three-quarters – 73 percent – of all Dutch see a relationship between Islam and the recent terror acts in Boston, London and Paris.

PVV leader Geert Wilders: “The results are very clear. The Netherlands has had enough of Islam. The majority do not want new immigrants from Islamic countries, nor any new mosques. They think that Islam is no enrichment for the Netherlands and say: Enough is enough. I will confront the Dutch government with these findings and demand that we finally stop the Islamisation of the Netherlands. For a long time is has been claimed that anti-Islamic opinions are extremist. It is clear now that a majority of our people supports them!”

Maybe the new gates aren’t in Vienna after all.

  • Rocky Mountain

    The poll numbers aren’t high enough as far as I’m concern.

    • Husam Aldahiyat

      Don’t forget that Muslims voted in the poll too.

      • angeleyez

        .
        . . . . . . . Isn’t assimilation a part of immigration ?
        ▲ YES
        ▼ NO

        • johnarleyburns

          No.

          • Drakken

            Then GTFO of our western countries, our way or the highway.

    • Captainplankface

      Maurice de Hond does these polls as a profession. If you had any idea how statistics work, 1900 people can be more than enough to provide a statistically significant sample.

      • johnarleyburns

        Let me run a poll in the Netherlands and I can make any result you want. Like Hitler, Wilders is not happy that only a third of the Dutch support his fascism and wants to seize power.

        • disqus_ZPzOjM5TKt

          dont want to burst your bubble but he is the biggest party at the moment, and by god i hope the goverment fails very soon, we want change and we want it now! And only an idiot would compare Mr. Wilders to Hitler… but then again you’re not even european let alone Dutch… are you, so i guess you’re forgiven your lack of knowlegde on the matter.

  • DM

    Small step in the right direction. The question is, when will America wake up? Japan has the right idea. They do not for the most part accept refugees from third world countries. They do provied aid to those countries. That is it, aid for the poor, food, education, medical assistance but not arm.

    • TimMullins

      America woke up a while back. To a stacked deck. If you don’t believe me, check out the company that manages the electronic voting machines to see who the head man is. Or was at that time. Then include the alleged IRS slanting of election chances and tell me you believe that the president with the worst record in American history could win by a landslide. This man is a product of the same political machine that spawned the infamous Mayor Daley.

      Tammany Hall is back, and now they are nationwide. But did they ever leave?

    • johnarleyburns

      America is not an isolationist highly mono-cultural racist state like Japan. It’s multiethnic, multi-religious, and becoming more accepting of different groups over time. This includes a long history of immigration.

      Given your close-minded post, you probably don’t actually know any Muslims. The ones I’ve known are more gung-ho American than most Americans, and are a tremendous asset to our security in dealing with Muslim countries.

      • DM

        I have spoken to a number of semi practicing mulsims who I mistakenly thought were friends. All have expressed admiration for those who can “carry out Allah’s will”. They want sharia law but do not currently abide by it. The say that once muslims have taken over that everyone who does not convert should be executed. They do not have the stomach themselves for the violence but applaud those who do. Some that I have spoken to are converts others were born muslims and so were their parents. I explained to one of the ladies that her female children who did not currently cover their heads and dated, would most likely be executed, oddly enough she said that they would either have to accept sharia and change or be killed. She said it with a straight face.
        It is my conclusion that there are no extremist or moderate muslims but only muslims who have the stomach for killing men, women and children that are not muslims and those that cheer them on either publicly or privately. There is no difference only those who act out and those too timid to act out.
        God help us all. DMH

        • johnarleyburns

          So there are crazy extremist Muslims. In the neck of the woods I’m from – Texas – crazy extremist Christians outnumber the Muslim variety by say a factor of 10,000 to 1. Does this mean we should ban Christianity and expel all Christians? Are Christians who don’t engage in violence actually want Christian Law (whatever that means) but are afraid to implement it? Were the Salem Witch Trials “only the beginning” of barbarous American Christianity?

          • BitterEnder

            OK, let’s make lists Muslim suicide-bombers and Christian suicide bombers and see what happens?
            Next, we will talk about 9-year old brides. OK?

          • johnarleyburns

            Suicide bombers are not a strictly Muslim experience; the Japanese had them, as have many futile military operations in trench warfare. But you don’t need suicide bombing when you have superior firepower: it’s the action of the weaker side.

            Underage brides have been wed and abused in my home state of Texas by Christian religious cults; I’m not aware of any cases by Muslims in Texas.

          • BitterEnder

            We are limiting Muslim bad acts to Texas only….Hehehehehe!

          • Brucew56

            @johnarleyburns. You admitting Islam is a cult?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Suicide bombers are not a strictly Muslim experience; the Japanese had them, as have many futile military operations in trench warfare. But you don’t need suicide bombing when you have superior firepower: it’s the action of the weaker side.”

            Then you admit that jihadis are engaged in total war with the West? Or do they get treated “special” because they’re “victims” with “grievances?”

          • martiendejong

            To be honest the West fairly screwed over certain parts of the Islamic world. How would you cope if a Muslim state occupied your country with all the advantages thereof?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “To be honest the West fairly screwed over certain parts of the Islamic world.”

            BS. You’ll have to be more specific and don’t forget evidence. Quoting liars won’t cut it, even if you “didn’t know” they were lying.

            “How would you cope if a Muslim state occupied your country with all the advantages thereof?”

            What does that have to do with our assistance to them and their supposed grievances? Obviously that would be intolerable because I don’t accept totalitarian religions being used as the basis for government.

            Wait, you said “feelings.’ So in your mind, that’s all that matters. We’ve got to adjust everything we do according to their feelings because we are stronger and we victimize them by actually winning the wars. When we’re permitted by lunatic leftists that is. Which isn’t often, now that I think about it.

      • BitterEnder

        Rubbish. Imams in Mosques are advising believers not to cooperate with the FBI. If what you say is correct, why are the outraged and embarrassed Muslims not speaking out forcefully against all the violence?

        • johnarleyburns

          I’d advise no one to “cooperate” with the FBI, that’s just bad legal advise. If ever approached by the FBI you should say nothing and ask to see a lawyer.

          Again, why don’t we speak out against all the violence done by our drones on civillians overseas? Perhaps because we don’t care.

          • Drakken

            So you think that us who live in 1st world nations are equal to 3rd world nations? As far as their casualties are concerned, I could care less, eff theirs and love ours, it is that simple.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “I’d advise no one to “cooperate” with the FBI, that’s just bad legal advise. If ever approached by the FBI you should say nothing and ask to see a lawyer.”

            IF your guilty. Are we to infer that you consider that the imam was addressing a “church” full of outlaws?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Again, why don’t we speak out against all the violence done by our drones on civillians overseas? Perhaps because we don’t care.”

            Judicial violence is a good thing for an ordered society. Except of course in the minds of delusional leftists.

  • Carlos SpicyWeener

    Well done Netherlands!

    • Teddi

      The muzzies are wearing out their welcome in many places…
      Time to send the one in the WH packing.

      • johnarleyburns

        A majority of the American people disagree with you.

        • mystrdat

          They don’t matter.

          • johnarleyburns

            The majority opinion on this board seems to share your disdain for democracy.

          • Sam Huston

            buying votes is not democracy.

          • johnarleyburns

            Neither is abandoning the First Amendment and breaking the freedom of religion.

          • Sam Huston

            Unicorn farts are a powerful aphrodisiac.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Neither is abandoning the First Amendment and breaking the freedom of religion.”

            Neither freedom is completely without limits and based on the subjective feelings of leftists or their insane evil allies.

            The only truly inalienable right an American citizen has is for due process when restricting other rights.

            That might not sound like much but in reality it’s the only way we can function when more than one citizen has those rights. I (and all of us who care) have a right to be free from totalitarian efforts to undermine our constitution. Some aspects of Islamic belief are protected and others are night.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “The majority opinion on this board seems to share your disdain for democracy.”

            Most of us have a righteous disdain for mob-rule and tyranny. You call it democracy. That’s because you think it favors you.

            The USA was founded as a constitutional democratic republic, and some think the constitution was merely a draft to be edited by whoever controls the most violent mobs.

        • Sam Huston

          They voted for a “free” cell phone, nothing more.

          • Transplanted ‘Nuck

            Did you get one? Fucking moocher.

          • Sam Huston

            Yes but I paid for mine.

          • Transplanted ‘Nuck

            Bullshit, I paid for it with my tax dollars.

        • Teddi

          Johnny, johnny, johnny…
          Still sucking Obama’s hole I see…

  • TeamInfidel

    Finally! The Dutch are “getting” it!!

    There are seeing first hand that ISLAM is not a “religion of peace”; it is a violent religion. Wherever ISLAM rears its ugly head, it creates for oppression, tyranny, and a lowered standard of living.

    Good for the Dutch!

    • johnarleyburns

      Well the Dutch don’t have the First Amendment guaranteeing freedom of religion, fortunately America does.

      • Cyborg3K

        Islam is not a religion. It is an organized crime syndicate.

        • johnarleyburns

          If you want to label Islam as a criminal syndicate, you may as well indict the Catholic Church while you’re at it.

          But you reveal your lack of knowledge in grouping a diverse religion of over a billion people into a “syndicate”.

          • Cyborg3K

            The Catholic Church does not condone the murder, rape, enslavement, or systematic extortion of unbelievers. It does not issue fatwas or condone the forced marriage of little girls to old men. These are all codified in sharia law.

          • johnarleyburns

            It does condone the rape and extortion of underage boys by priests as has been practiced across the entire Church diocese for decades.

            It condoned slavery for almost two thousand years.

            It condoned murder in the form of countless “just wars”, the Crusades being the most famous.

            Fatwas are called “edicts” in the Catholic Church, many issued were similarly violent and repressive (Galileo, anyone?)

            Women of course are still not allowed anywhere within the catholic hierarchy, so much for female rights.

            Executing heretics and converts was supported and implemented by the Church repeatedly (inquisitions), and only stopped under secular modern governments.

            Religious tolerance under Islam, although not as free or advanced as under modern secular democracy, was still an advance for minority religions compared to that available under Catholic countries.

          • BitterEnder

            Are you suggesting that the illegal acts of some Priests correlate with the extent of barbaric activities not just condoned, but encouraged under Islam? You are finding equivalency between no female priests and the wearing of the Burkha, the restrictions against education, driving cars, being in public without male relatives??? You are a terrorist enabler.

          • johnarleyburns

            The vast exploitation of youth under the Church recently, with its enablement and concealment by the Church, is not to be dismissed.

            Wearing the burkha is not mandatory in virtually the entire Muslim world. It’s like saying Christianity equals dressing like the Amish.

            Iranian universities have a higher female enrolment percentage in the sciences than does America, how’s that for “restrictions against education”?

            Driving cars is restricted in (American-backed) Saudi Arabia, but allowed in every other Muslim country as far as I’m aware.

          • BitterEnder

            Your sporadic attempt to justify the unjustifiable exposes you. You want to compare 13th century Catholic practices with 21st century Mulsim atrocities. You are enabler of these practices. As Stalin aptly coined the term: “Useful Idiot.”

          • johnarleyburns

            I’m talking about Catholic practices today.

          • OfficialPro

            Catholic priests who engage in molestation (individually or even as a small subset of a group) are doing something that is actually FORBIDDEN by the Bible. You will find NO words condemning child molestation in the Koran.

          • Graham Hunt

            Johnarleyburns…Do two things, grab yourself a Q’ran and go stroll the Vatican espousing Islam..then when you are done take a Bible and pick a City in Saudi Arabia (any one will do) and go espouse Christianity!……I’ll pay for the return of your body and your head on a stick…:)

          • johnarleyburns

            If I go to the Sistine Chapel and start espousing Islam I will be either shot as a terrorist/suicide bomber or if I’m lucky asked to leave and be escorted back to Italy.

            If I go to Saudi and start espousing Christianity I will be asked to stop and if I persist will be deported.

          • Bodart

            LIar: be lost.
            Moderator, please remove this fool.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Without doubt, this is a lying lunatic.

          • Nathan Brazil

            Idiot.

          • Jason

            Exactly.

          • http://palestinename.com Beth

            What we teach to our young – is important for the whole nation – any nation.

            In matters of these two religions – the truth is:

            The sole supreme authority of Christianity (The New Testament) offers not one sentence that teaches humans to be violent with each other. Those who claim to be Christians who carry out violence – are not Christians – no matter how much they claim to be.

            The sole supreme authority of Islam – is the Koran. It is no longer a secret that the Koran preaches vicious violence, of which you obviously support.

          • 1dudette

            Vast exploitation of youth. Please read CSM (no Catholic publication) article on pedophilia in churches. http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0405/p01s01-ussc.html
            The reason the left hates Catholics is because it is the defender of the unborn and the aged.

          • Bodart

            Go to Mecca JB and shake your stuff. You’ll see then.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            It does condone the rape and extortion of underage boys by priests as has been practiced across the entire Church diocese for decades.

            Actually, Catholicism is but only one branch of Christianity. After all…there was indeed a reformation you know. Nevertheless, the Catholic Church most certainly doesn’t condone the rape and extortion of underage boys across the entire church diocese, as that is a total delusional misrepresentation of facts. Moreover, a few bad priests certainly doesn’t condemn the entire Catholic Church.

            It condoned slavery for almost two thousand years.

            You mean it tolerated slavery, as slavery was condoned by all societies since the evolution of mankind. Christianity nevertheless eventually led to the end of slavery as well. Meanwhile, it was Islamic civilization that actually ran the slave trade, as Muslims enslaved blacks and whites alike. In fact, the slave trade is still conducted quietly in many Islamic countries today, and if Islamic civilization ever regains dominance again as it intends, slavery will again become a very ubiquitous feature of its society again.

            It condoned murder in the form of countless “just wars”, the Crusades being the most famous.

            You must be an unhinged self-hating leftwing moonbat, as there are indeed “just wars.” Moreover, the Crusades were a long over due and very delayed response to the fact that Islamic civilization had conquered approximately two thirds of Christendom without resistance. Your ignorance is bliss; it’s plain to see.

            Fatwas are called “edicts” in the Catholic Church, many issued were similarly violent and repressive (Galileo, anyone?)

            Again, like a loon you cite the Catholic Church before the reformation. However, I hate to rain on your very ignorant parade but a very reformed Catholic Church today is only but just one branch of a very diverse Christianity.

            Women of course are still not allowed anywhere within the catholic hierarchy, so much for female rights.

            Again, you conveniently cite the Catholic Church for your example; yet again the Catholic Church is but just one branch of a very diverse Christianity.

            Executing heretics and converts was supported and implemented by the Church repeatedly (inquisitions), and only stopped under secular modern governments.

            Actually, the Inquisition was a very understandable response to the very harsh occupation of Spain (Andalusia) by the Muslims for over 700 years. Again, your citing examples that conveniently predate the reformation to attempt to make your insane moral equivalences with Islam seem more reasonable. Not to mention again that the Catholic Church today is but just one branch of a very diverse Christianity.

            Religious tolerance under Islam, although not as free or advanced as under modern secular democracy, was still an advance for minority religions compared to that available under Catholic countries.

            What are you smoking? In every Islamic country in the world today, religious minorities are oppressed and persecuted into harsh and degrading dhimmitude. Meanwhile, can you name one Catholic country today? There are none of them because Catholicism is a religion, unlike Islam, which is a very aggressive form of totalitarianism. Not to mention again that Catholicism is but just one branch of what is a very diverse Christianity. You obviously have been rendered very delusional and extremely ignorant of history and reality today.

            I have a theory. You leftists have obviously been indoctrinated into hating Christianity, Capitalism, and America. Hence, as Obama tears down Christianity, Capitalism, and America today it only brings you unhinged moonbats extreme joy, even though you morons will be the first to suffer.

          • http://palestinename.com Beth

            The Catholic church has no Christian Scriptures to support those evil acts.
            Islam, on the other hand, has their Koran which does support those violent acts.
            And, as noted in the article above – people are getting sick and tired of Islam.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “It does condone the rape and extortion of underage boys by priests as has been practiced across the entire Church diocese for decades.”

            Conflation is removing distinctions. Removing salient distinctions is just stupid.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “It condoned slavery for almost two thousand years.”

            I’m sorry, I didn’t realize just how ignorant you are.

            “It condoned murder in the form of countless “just wars”, the Crusades being the most famous.”

            The premise of the crusades was completely justified.

          • Bodart

            Crusades were a logical, appropriate response to Muslim

            enslavement and torture of Christians in the Middle East.
            Johhny B , do you have issues with that ? Oh, by the way,
            Muslims have been the most prolific slavers in the world for the last 1400 yrs.. Muslims haven’t progressed an inch since the time of their arch-criminal Muhammed- the sick devil mind, Your analysis is a pathetic apology for a fasciist philosophy. Read the Koran, idiot , and you’ll see the abject depravity of a spelunker’s petit -mal seizures.
            If you support Muhammad -you support murder as an appropriate behavior. By the way, there simply is no Allah,
            there is simply an echo of desert tribal Arabian delusions .
            I’m getting too tired of liberal sophists cutting Muslim criminals slack.

          • Avery Chasidy

            They used to.

          • BitterEnder

            Yes, but we emerged from the Middle Ages a thousand years ago. When, if ever will Islam do so???
            My advise to Islam enablers is to try to live in an Islamic country.

          • Transplanted ‘Nuck

            “The Catholic Church does not condone the murder, rape, enslavement, or systematic extortion of unbelievers.”

            LOL, you sure?

          • Cyborg3K

            You can’t find approval for any of that in the New Testament, you can find it all in the koran and the hadith.

            The Crusades were a response to the invasion and slaughter of people in Christian lands by jihadists.

            Slavery was ended in the West only by the actions of Christians and is still practiced in islamic territories.

            As I said, the Church has shown itself capable of reform, whereas islam is locked into the middle ages.

            Also, lying on behalf of islam is considered a virtue and a form of jihad.

            Anyone who has actually been to an islamic country and ventured outside of the 4 star hotels and approved tourist attractions would know this.

          • OfficialPro

            The Bible doesn’t condone rape or muder or extortion. Slavery as the Bible described/tolerated it was actually indentured servitude, rather than the slavery the Muslims practiced. In fact the Bible mentioned that anyone who kidnaps people to sell into slavery should be put to death.

          • Goldcoaster

            You tell em Cyborg. islam needs reformation.

          • Steven de Gruijl

            You reveal your lack of knowledge, john. Here in Holland we do have the freedom of religion.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “If you want to label Islam as a criminal syndicate, you may as well indict the Catholic Church while you’re at it.”

            Because the Catholic Church is trying to take over the world and implement a totalitarian system of government? What year is this?

          • andyrwebman

            The interesting difference between the two is that the Catholic church commited its evils by ignoring virtually every tenet that Christ preached.

            Islam’s threat, on the other hand, comes from taking the Qu’ran literally.

      • mystrdat

        Sharia law is not subject to any freedom.

        • johnarleyburns

          You do realize that most Muslims don’t follow Sharia literally nor do they even agree on what it is?

          • angeleyez

            .
            OMG
            .
            Why do Muslims want something they don’t even
            agree upon or understand ?

          • Transplanted ‘Nuck

            Why do Americans want President Obama for 3 more years? What’s that you say, not all of them do? Almost as if a religion three times as popular as the United States would similarly be made up of a diverse group of people! Crazy…

          • Transplanted ‘Nuck

            I think you’re battling a raging fire of ignorance with a mere water hose, my friend.

            But your effort does not go unnoticed.

      • Lennart

        Yes we do! It’s in our constitution.

        • johnarleyburns

          Then you’ll either have to change your constitution, ignore it, or permit the building of mosques.

      • watcherofolde

        paradox of tolerance: “Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols.We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.”-Karl Popper

      • Simon

        Ehm, we do? Article 6of the Dutch constitution, Vrijheid van godsdienst en levensovertuiging (Freedom of religion and belief).

        • johnarleyburns

          Then you’ll just have to allow the Muslims to stay and practice their religion.

          • Simon

            Ohh we are, we just have a troll called Geert Wilders who hates the Islam and is in politics so he sturs up the whole place. Because some people have a problem with the Islam (and Muslims) doesn’t mean they will be banned or anything :)

          • johnarleyburns

            Well that’s good to hear, I spend a lot of time in the Netherlands and besides the big cities I’m usually the only non-Dutch person around, I seldom see anyone non-Dutch looking or hear any language other than Dutch. It’s really different from say small cities in France.

          • disqus_ZPzOjM5TKt

            Clearly you have never been in any of the real big cities such as Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Utrecht, Den Haag… have you?

          • Steven de Gruijl

            Then I don’t believe you’ve ever been in Holland, you probably don’t even know where it is.

          • BitterEnder

            Based upon the current policies of the Netherlands Government, and demographic realities, how long before we have Netherlandistan?

          • Goldcoaster

            obviously you didnt read the survey. Lots of people are sick of islam, and with good reasons.

          • disqus_ZPzOjM5TKt

            You don’t have a pretty daughter do you?

      • Prof. Dr. Llort

        Freedom of religion is in our constitution.

      • Milt

        But we also have a criminal in the White House who wants to destroy our Constitution and our nation.

        • Jason

          And he’s Kenyan and Muslim and communist and hates people and nice things.

      • TeamINFIDEL

        Islam is hell bent on installing a totally different form of law and order, namely Sharia law in the Netherlands. There is NO political pluralism…none with freakin’ MUSLIMS around.

        So…This makes Islam, apart from a religion for hundreds of millions of Muslims also, and in particular, a political ideology (with political/constitutional/Islamic basic values, etc). Islam is an ideology WITHOUT any respect for others; not for Christians, not for Jews, not for non‑believers and not for apostates.

        Islam aims to dominate, subject, kill and wage war. This is nothing new! It has been that way since this religion’s inception!
        Behold ISLAM in the Neatherlands! This cancer MUST be stopped and we need to help the Dutch!

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Well the Dutch don’t have the First Amendment guaranteeing freedom of religion, fortunately America does.

        So in your opinion you are claiming that America’s First Amendment is a suicide pact?

        No problem since Islam isn’t really a religion anyway! Instead, it’s a totalitarian cult masquerading as a religion in order to dupe the naive infidels it intends to subjugate into Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

        Don’t believe me? Then study the evolution of Islam. Islam initially started out as being a very bastardized religion of peace in Mecca, but after the Hijra in 622 AD, which was Muhammad and his early followers migration to Medina after being cast out of Mecca, Muhammad became totally obsessed with revenge, politics, and jihad, while abandoning religion at the same time, and in the process totally reformed Islam into what it is today, which is a totalitarian cult that intends to achieve dominion over all religions in the world via the imposition of Sharia.

        Furthermore, according to the Principle of Abrogation, which is universally accepted by all sects and divisions within Islam, the latter issued verses of the Koran abrogate and replace the earlier issued verses of the Koran they conflict with. Hence, all the earlier issued peaceful verses of the Koran that originate prior to the Hijra in Mecca when Islam was still a religion of peace have been abrogated and replaced by the latter issued violent sword verses of the Koran that originate from the time after the Hijra, when Muhammad reformed Islam into again what it is today, a totalitarian cult that masquerades as being a religion in order to dupe the gullible infidels it intends to subjugate into Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia law.

        Islam isn’t a faith-based religion. Instead, the first and foremost requirement of Islam is the total, complete, and unconditional submission to the will of Allah under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy by every Muslim, and that my friend makes Islam a cult, and cults receive exactly no protection under the First Amendment of the constitution.

        By the way, what exactly is the will of Allah? The will of Allah is in effect Islamic totalitarian law.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Well the Dutch don’t have the First Amendment guaranteeing freedom of religion, fortunately America does.

        So in your opinion you are claiming that America’s First Amendment is a suicide pact?

        No problem since Islam isn’t really a religion anyway! Instead, it’s a totalitarian cult masquerading as a religion in order to dupe the naive infidels it intends to subjugate into Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

        Don’t believe me? Then study the evolution of Islam. Islam initially started out as being a very bastardized religion of peace in Mecca, but after the Hijra in 622 AD, which was Muhammad and his early followers migration to Medina after being cast out of Mecca, Muhammad became totally obsessed with revenge, politics, and jihad, while abandoning religion at the same time, and in the process totally reformed Islam into what it is today, which is a totalitarian cult that intends to achieve dominion over all religions in the world via the imposition of Sharia.

        Furthermore, according to the Principle of Abrogation, which is universally accepted by all sects and divisions within Islam, the latter issued verses of the Koran abrogate and replace the earlier issued verses of the Koran they conflict with. Hence, all the earlier issued peaceful verses of the Koran that originate prior to the Hijra in Mecca when Islam was still a religion of peace have been abrogated and replaced by the latter issued violent sword verses of the Koran that originate from the time after the Hijra, when Muhammad reformed Islam into again what it is today, a totalitarian cult that masquerades as being a religion in order to dupe the gullible infidels it intends to subjugate into Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia law.

        Islam isn’t a faith-based religion. Instead, the first and foremost requirement of Islam is the total, complete, and unconditional submission to the will of Allah under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy by every Muslim, and that my friend makes Islam a cult, and cults receive exactly no protection under the First Amendment of the constitution.

        By the way, what exactly is the will of Allah? The will of Allah is in effect Islamic totalitarian law.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Well the Dutch don’t have the First Amendment guaranteeing freedom of religion, fortunately America does.

        So in your opinion you are claiming that America’s First Amendment is a suicide pact?

        No problem since Islam isn’t really a religion anyway! Instead, it’s a totalitarian cult masquerading as a religion in order to dupe the naive infidels it intends to subjugate into Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

        Don’t believe me? Then study the evolution of Islam. Islam initially started out as being a very bastardized religion of peace in Mecca, but after the Hijra in 622 AD, which was Muhammad and his early followers migration to Medina after being cast out of Mecca, Muhammad became totally obsessed with revenge, politics, and jihad, while abandoning religion at the same time, and in the process totally reformed Islam into what it is today, which is a totalitarian cult that intends to achieve dominion over all religions in the world via the imposition of Sharia.

        Furthermore, according to the Principle of Abrogation, which is universally accepted by all sects and divisions within Islam, the latter issued verses of the Koran abrogate and replace the earlier issued verses of the Koran they conflict with. Hence, all the earlier issued peaceful verses of the Koran that originate prior to the Hijra in Mecca when Islam was still a religion of peace have been abrogated and replaced by the latter issued violent sword verses of the Koran that originate from the time after the Hijra, when Muhammad reformed Islam into again what it is today, a totalitarian cult that masquerades as being a religion in order to dupe the gullible infidels it intends to subjugate into Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia law.

        Islam isn’t a faith-based religion. Instead, the first and foremost requirement of Islam is the total, complete, and unconditional submission to the will of Allah under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy by every Muslim, and that my friend makes Islam a cult, and cults receive exactly no protection under the First Amendment of the constitution.

        By the way, what exactly is the will of Allah? The will of Allah is in effect Islamic totalitarian law.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Well the Dutch don’t have the First Amendment guaranteeing freedom of religion, fortunately America does.

        So in your opinion you are claiming that America’s First Amendment is a suicide pact?

        No problem since Islam isn’t really a religion anyway! Instead, it’s a totalitarian cult masquerading as a religion in order to dupe the naive infidels it intends to subjugate into Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

        Don’t believe me? Then study the evolution of Islam. Islam initially started out as being a very bastardized religion of peace in Mecca, but after the Hijra in 622 AD, which was Muhammad and his early followers migration to Medina after being cast out of Mecca, Muhammad became totally obsessed with revenge, politics, and jihad, while abandoning religion at the same time, and in the process totally reformed Islam into what it is today, which is a totalitarian cult that intends to achieve dominion over all religions in the world via the imposition of Sharia.

        Furthermore, according to the Principle of Abrogation, which is universally accepted by all sects and divisions within Islam, the latter issued verses of the Koran abrogate and replace the earlier issued verses of the Koran they conflict with. Hence, all the earlier issued peaceful verses of the Koran that originate prior to the Hijra in Mecca when Islam was still a religion of peace have been abrogated and replaced by the latter issued violent sword verses of the Koran that originate from the time after the Hijra, when Muhammad reformed Islam into again what it is today, a totalitarian cult that masquerades as being a religion in order to dupe the gullible infidels it intends to subjugate into Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia law.

        Islam isn’t a faith-based religion. Instead, the first and foremost requirement of Islam is the total, complete, and unconditional submission to the will of Allah under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy by every Muslim, and that my friend makes Islam a cult, and cults receive exactly no protection under the First Amendment of the constitution.

        By the way, what exactly is the will of Allah? The will of Allah is in effect Islamic totalitarian law.

    • salliejones

      I have read countless responses by the “guest”. Don’t waste your time talking with a muslim of Islam. You will never change their attitudes. I am glad that you have put out all the bad things about Islam over and over again but the liberals in the world will never change. If the truth be known many of our moderate republican leaders are in bed with the muslim brotherhood and obama, eg: John McCain I am going to see what I have to do to move to the countries of the Dutch. I will let this “God” forsaken country go down, and it is going down. 67% of the Jews put obama in office, then because as a Christian, we have to support the Jews, get your head around that one…

      • salliejones

        My God, David Cameron of England is now going to start selling sharia bonds. England and Bush were best of friends. The american people have no one supporting them, at all.

  • puhiawa

    Muslims are savages. Importing Muslims is like importing a crime wave.

    • johnarleyburns

      Who’s killed more people over history, Muslims or Christians? Christians take the cake on this one.

      • Husam Aldahiyat

        So it’s a who was a bigger asshole contest? Right now Muslims are more dangerous and that’s all that matters.

        • johnarleyburns

          How are Muslims more dangerous? Virtually all the murders done in Europe are done by Christians and far outweigh, each year, all “Islamic” terrorism done over the entire history of the Netherlands.

          • Husam Aldahiyat

            Sigh. But how many of these murders are done in the name of Christianity? When a murder occurs does the murderer do it in the name of Jesus? We’re not talking crime here, but terrorism in the name of religion.

          • angeleyez

            .
            Aren’t homosexuals are against Sharia Law ?

          • johnarleyburns

            They’re also against the law in a majority of Christian countries and US states.

          • Floridawhitesands

            Name me a state John?

          • johnarleyburns

            Sodomy was illegal in 14 states including Texas until 2003 when the Supreme Court struck the law down, even though it’s still on the books at the State level and there are efforts to re-enact it.

            Outside the US, most Caribbean, most African Christian, and many Christian Pacific countries, as well as most of the Muslim world, have sodomy as a crime:

            http://76crimes.com/76-countries-where-homosexuality-is-illegal/

          • Floridawhitesands

            So- not against the law in the US you are saying. OK!! BUT according to Iran President – there are NO gays in Iran….. go figure.

          • BitterEnder

            Pathetic post. Trying to compare murders committed by criminal Christians in all of Europe with acts of “Islamic Terrorism” confined to the Netherlands. Shows how pathetic your position is.

          • johnarleyburns

            Total up the number killed in 2012 in the Netherlands, or Western Europe, from “Islamic Terrorism”, versus murder by other causes. Let’s let the numbers talk.

          • BitterEnder

            You actually are trying to draw comfort from the fact that more people died from heart attacks than from deliberate Muslim terrorist acts??? Thanks for the joke. I needed a laugh today.

          • disqus_ZPzOjM5TKt

            Im dutch and i have lived here long enough to tell you to piss off! do you know how many woman and children are killed by muslims? do you? because they were dating a dutch boy or wanted to leave there abusive husband…. you dont even know what you’re talking about! stay out of it or send your pretty little daughter/niece/sister, to go out on a saterday night with me in Rotterdam, cant promise you she will come back though….

      • mystrdat

        Numbers or GTFO.

        • johnarleyburns

          Let’s just take the example of the Netherlands. The most recent “crime wave” which killed a large number of people was the German occupation in WWII, with over 200,000 Dutch killed (half Jewish). And the most recent Islamic Terror campaign in the Netherlands killed what, one person?

          • Alphabet_Soup

            Irrelevant and immaterial. The Germans didn’t kill in the name of Jesus.

          • $37664016

            Au contraire, the Nazi movement supported Christianity, official state Churches both Protestant and Catholic, included Christian symbolism, and justified its actions by saying it was defending Christian civilisation from encroachment by Atheist Bolsheviks and Jewish “people who wouldn’t integrate”.

            In fact the catholic church right next to my apartment was built by the Nazi government with government funds.

            The current fascist right-wing anti-immigrant groups in Europe are nothing more than thinly-veiled Nazis resurrected against a different group of Semitic peoples this time.

          • johnarleyburns

            Au contraire, the national socialist movement supported Christianity, official state churches both Protestant and Catholic, included Christian symbolism, and justified its actions by saying it was defending Christian civilisation from encroachment by atheist communists and semitic “people who wouldn’t integrate”.

            In fact the catholic church right next to my apartment was built by the national socialist government with government funds.

            The current right-wing anti-immigrant groups in Europe are nothing more than thinly-veiled national socialists resurrected against a different group of Semitic peoples this time.

          • Floridawhitesands

            You aren’t using any logic Johnny…. just raw emotion that boarders on fanatical.

          • johnarleyburns

            Which of the facts I mentioned are just raw emotion? I was asked “numbers or gtfo” so I gave numbers. Do you have any?

      • BitterEnder

        Really? Where are your facts. What were Muslims doing outside of Paris in 632 AD? Hoe many Mosques are built on top of Churches or Jewish Temples? How many Muslims have killed each other in the past 30 years? I how many countries are Muslims currently involved in armed conflict today? What happens if a Christian converts to Islam in a Christian country. What happens if a Muslim converts in an Islamic country?
        SHALL I GO ON???

        • johnarleyburns

          “What were Muslims doing outside of Paris in 632 AD?”

          What were Christians doing outside of Baghdad in 2003 AD?

          “Hoe many Mosques are built on top of Churches or Jewish Temples?”

          There was only one Jewish temple, and it currently has a mosque on it. But don’t blame the Muslims: it was the European pre-Christian Pagan Romans who destroyed that one.

          As far as churches go, they were usually respected by the Muslim invaders, certainly moreso than by Christians when Muslims were expelled as in the reconquista.

          Conversion is respected in secular countries. It was not respected in Christian religious countries and it is not respected now in Muslim religious countries. Conversion to “democracy” is also not respected in China. It’s a function of secularism, not of religion.

          • BitterEnder

            ” It was not respected in Christian religious countries and it is not respected now in Muslim religious countries” This is a new twist on the term “not respected.” In this instance, “not respected in Muslim countries” means punished by death. hahahaha A laugh a minute.

      • Drakken

        Ah that would be complete BS and wrong, just for starters ask the over 80 million hindus and buddist that were killed by the muslim hordes that invaded the Indian sub continent. As a few Serbs,Romanians, or Bulgars what they think? There is no moral equivalency between us westerners and muslims, period.

  • Akbarr Zeb

    Buddhists know how to do it right. Follow there lead.

  • Oracle9

    For sane policies to save European countries it will take more than mere elections since society is so divided. Rational discussions are very difficult with the obfuscations of utopian “progressive” ideologues and political correctness. I fear we have passed the point of no return and there are few pleasant scenarios for the future.

    • johnarleyburns

      “it will take more than mere elections”

      You fascists lost last time, and you’ll lose again.

      • watcherofolde

        And so the name calling begins. it appears you brook no dissent. THAT is fascism.

        • johnarleyburns

          Nothing I’ve said indicates I don’t favor dissent – I do. What Oracle9 proposed is that “mere elections” aren’t enough, which was the rallying cry of fascists against democracy and the justification for imposing their will on others.

          • Drakken

            What you muslims are pushing is going to blow up in your faces, we of the west will tire of you leftist/muslims and there will be hell to pay and pay you and yours will, in spades.

      • Oracle9

        So standing up for individual freedom is fascism? Besides a lot of diffuse anger and resentment with Judeo-Christian values, exactly what are you saying?

  • S7teen70six

    “One small step for man. One giant leap for mankind.”

    • johnarleyburns

      Said by an American, in a project created by a land of religious freedom, Muslims included.

      • Drakken

        You muslims have abused our hospitality and are in for a very rude awaking, think Balkans on steroids.

  • SNAPTIE: @ Demo☭Rats Lie

    The DOJ just days ago in Manchester,TN.said that criticizing Islam could be considered a civil right or criminal hate crime. Don’t believe me? Here it is.. http://www.tennessean.com/article/20130605/NEWS21/306050155/Muslim-group-s-TN-forum-feds-disrupted-by-heckling

  • johnarleyburns

    I’ve spent a lot of time in the Netherlands and hardly encountered Islam at all. It’s certainly less prevalent than in my part of Houston where I moved from. Just goes to show you there are intolerant, irrational racists everywhere.

    • woodman527

      It is one of the weird parts i admit. One of the mayor problems the common Dutch have with the Islam. Is the Islamic youth, Between ages 12 and 18 they think they run the place. It happens way too often that people get beat up by a group of Turkish or Maroccan youths. We have nothing against the religion, we have something against some of the people that follow it.

      • johnarleyburns

        You’re mistaking common thuggery for a religion. Most violent crimes in the Netherlands are committed by the Dutch.

  • allemand

    The problem is the gap between “the common people” and the people involved in the political game. The first must take responsibility for their acts, while the political people can just resign and hence no responsibility follows.

  • the void waits

    I agree, Islam offers nothing to the west, they are here for the better lifestyle and yet still don’t agree with western culture.

    • johnarleyburns

      Islam invented Algebra while the West was busy fighting petty territorial disputes between what was left of the tiny fragments of the Roman Empire, wallowing in filth and decay.

      • angeleyez

        .
        When did 2+2 = 5 become the norm ?
        .

      • Mansgame

        How long ago was algebra? Is that all you have to offer humanity? Since inventing algebra, it also invented stoning women to death for talking back to men and beheading those who don’t follow the religion. The west invented the computer and the internet you’re typing on so again, what have you done lately? The only reason Islamic countries are around is because of oil and instead of teaching your people, you spend that money on building castles in the sand and buying luxury cars.

        • johnarleyburns

          You seem to be confusing countries and religions and lots of other topics.

          “The West” which invented the computer and the internet are modern secular democracies which allow freedom of religion. This includes, you perhaps forgot, Islam as protected under these freedoms. End of discussion.

          “Islamic countries” which have the least freedom are those most protected by America – namely Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, the UAE. Those more tolerant – say Lebanon or Iran – are rather opposed by America.

          • angeleyez

            .
            Barbarous acts committed against women
            under Sharia Law are barbarian.

          • johnarleyburns

            As are barbarous acts committed against women and children under American Military Law.

          • Drakken

            I wish I had run into you in Iraq while you were helping your fellow shia muslims.

          • Floridawhitesands

            So you are a Shia, makes sense after reading your comments. Now we know who we are dealing with….all makes sense now. Thanks for exposing your extreme positions, all based on a violence that dwarfs the rest of the free world. IRAN IS TOLERANT???!!!!! omg!!!!

          • johnarleyburns

            Yes Iran has better treatment of women and access to education than do any of the Gulf Arab countries, particularly Saudi Arabia. Don’t just believe me, look it up for yourself. America often favors the oppressors over the oppressed.

          • Floridawhitesands

            So you will only compare Iran’s treatment of women to other Muslim states…. Iran’s killing of ‘dissident’ women isn’t included your definition of barbaric treatment of women and the imprisonment and killing of Christian women doesn’t count, especially those that converted to Christianity… got it!

      • BotillaBianco

        ‘Islam’ didn’t invent algebra. Don’t know who told you that but it’s plain bs. Diophantus was the first to make use of algebra as we know it. A Persian mathematician started using it as well but he in no way invented it. Oh and it’s highly doubted that this Persian Mathematician was even a muslim so please my friend, get your facts straight.

      • DM

        Oh Please.
        The Arabs were only part of the development of the principles of algebra, other civilizations predating Islam were already using advance math.
        The roots of algebra can be traced to the ancient Babylonians,[3] who developed an advanced arithmetical system with which they were able to do calculations in an algorithmic fashion. The Babylonians developed formulas to calculate solutions for problems typically solved today by using linear equations, quadratic equations, and indeterminate linear equations. By contrast, most Egyptians of this era, as well as Greek and Chinese mathematics in the 1st millennium BC, usually solved such equations by geometric methods, such as those described in the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus, Euclid’s Elements, and The Nine Chapters on the Mathematical Art. The geometric work of the Greeks, typified in the Elements, provided the framework for generalizing formulae beyond the solution of particular problems into more general systems of stating and solving equations, although this would not be realized until mathematics developed in medieval Islam.[4]
        By the time of Plato, Greek mathematics had undergone a drastic change. The Greeks created a geometric algebra where terms were represented by sides of geometric objects, usually lines, that had letters associated with them.[1] Diophantus (3rd century AD), sometimes called “the father of algebra”, was an Alexandrian Greek mathematician and the author of a series of books called Arithmetica. These texts deal with solving algebraic equations.[5]

        • johnarleyburns

          Scientists and mathematicians build on the work of the past. That past work include many advancements by Arab and Persian Muslims. To deny this means you aren’t really interested in truth which science aims to uncover.

          • Drakken

            Science and islam in the same sentence is an oxymoron. There has never in the history of man been a more retrograde force in the world other than islam. If your a convert to that devils cult, get out of the west and go live in the Islamic paradise of your choice, soon your not going to get a choice.

      • TeamInfidel

        What nonsense! This achievement all happen BEFORE ISLAM got a hold of these people and then kept them living in the 7th century while they banged their heads to the ground 5X’s each day and for what?? A dent in their forehead??

        This cult ideology called ISLAM that sprang out of the harsh Arabian Peninsula to lay waste to an ever-widening swath of homes, fields and hapless populations with shocking brutality… the “religion” that cannibalized entire cultures and turned vibrant people (like the Arabs and Egyptians) into terrorized, subordinate slaves and dhimmis… is really just intended to bring out the best of their MUSLIM men after a hard day of freakin’ jihad for their allah!!

      • impeachmentisanOption

        Obbie says we owe them our space race….without them we couldn’t have made it. Algebra, funny I don’t recall anything including Algebra that has come from a nomadic tribe with barely enough food to feed themselves. Oh that’s right they got rich off of OIL. Lets see how did they do that…oh that’s right it took a Western civilization to pull them out of the dogsh+t and make them understand what oil was. All of these Muslims are camel humping, pedophiles, rapist, acid throwing animals. While we may have “civilized” them on the outside, they are still wild animals that do not deserve a country let alone a space inside of a country that they will in turn try to turn into a “sh+thole” because that’s what they live in by choice. Anyone who thinks they have an Islamic friend/Muslim friend is greatly misinformed and stupid to think that others don’t see your folly. Sooner or later they will turn against you…at which time they are raping your daughters, beheading your sons and burning down your home all in the name of some insane character named Allah/Mohammed. I ask you to look no further than Charles Manson and speculate if he had not been caught and his ideals taught a select group for a couple of hundred years. Would we not have “The Book of Manson”, complete with ritual and rape and murder? johnarleyburns be careful when you quote history, it always comes back to bit you in the awaiting void.

  • Joost vdB

    This is just ridiculous. It’s a poll with about 1900 people. That is about 0.001% of the population. Also the outcome is plain wrong! It’s for a reason the party of Geert Wilders isn’t the biggest, because people don’t believe in his ideas! He’s good in targeting dumb people in the low social standards. In 5 years about 20% of the population will have a university or university of applied science degree and they mostly do not agree. Saying 77% of the people don’t think Islam isn’t an enrichment is wrong. We are a multicultural open society and believing that these numbers are a right representation of the Netherlands is dumb.
    Also most of the comments are a bit far-right and i disagree completely with this article.

    • Captainplankface

      Please educate yourself on how statistics work before you make a fool out of yourself. These are professional polls, done by the same guy that predicts the elections in the Netherlands. 1900 people can be enough to provide a statistically significant result.

      • Joost vdB

        Hahaha Maurice de Hond was wrong in the last 3 elections by a 20% margin. He predicted the SP was going to be the largest party a week before the election and they finished 4th.

  • http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/ Jason P

    Is it a firm and strong opposition to Islam and Muslim immigration or is it just a wistful feeling that will wane tomorrow? I’m sure the establishment will vilify those who warn about Islam. It will take a confirmed effort to maintain reforms in the face of this vilification. Notice some of the Dutch comments here that mumble about “far right” and “racism.” It’s going to take a campaign. Good luck to Wilders; he has his work cut out for him.

    • johnarleyburns

      Is there anything wrong with vilifying an attack on freedom of religion?

  • kjorbaer

    Reading these posts one cannot see any reference to the islamic messages or what they are. Nothing about Sharia or what the Jihad Chapters say in the book, ,,Reliance of the Traveler”. Nothing on the laws of Islam concerning women and their position in Islam. On this thread we see ,,jlb” obfuscating Muslims behavior and their actions to the utmost along with standard disinformation.. But there are good posts also.

    • johnarleyburns

      Give me the Holy Bible and I can pull out lots of things which are diametrically opposed to our secular, free democracy. You can do the same with the Koran as well.

  • Mansgame

    The first time I see Muslims become outraged when one of their own commits a horrible crime would be the first. Almost all stay silent when people commit murder in the name of their religion. If someone allegedly tears a sheet out of their “holy” book however, the streets fill with outrage and protest. That’s all I need to know.

    • johnarleyburns

      When was the last time you saw Americans become outraged at Pakistani civilians killed in a drone strike? Despite the fact that thousands of civillians have been killed in these drone strikes over the past few years? Then we are shocked – shocked! – when they don’t protest when someone (not even Pakistani perhaps) kills a single person in the West.

      I don’t recall the right wing in Europe discussing how outraged they were at Breivik despite him doing everything in the name of preserving European culture.

      • TeamInfidel

        Screw Pakistan! We need more drones to kill off these whacked MUSLIMS!

        Why?

        The most significant contributor to Islamic terrorism is Pakistan, where the dictatorial government of these Muslims are Salafist….some of the most devoted and worse practicing Muslims our earth produces. Pakistan’s mosques and madrassas have manufactured more actual terrorists than an arm pit like Saudi Arabia.

        These Paky MUSLIMS people are responsible for the Taliban -
        the fundamentalist regime associated with al-Qaeda. Even the Taliban chief Mullah Omar was educated in the Binori Mosque Madrassa in Karachi! The head of Pakistan’s ISI intelligence
        service, Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad, not only provided the funds, arms, and direction to the Taliban, he and these animals provided direct wire transfers to Muhammad Atta, the 9/11 ringleader, immediately before he murdered 3,000 Americans.

        What else? This was the country that harbored bin Laden less than 700 meters from their top military academy! What a joke! Pakistan is the home of Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Shaikh Muhammad, the men many believe conceived the first and second World Trade Center bombings.

        That’s right, there were TWO Islamic attacks (1993 and 2001) on the World Trade Center by…wait for it…wait for it…Salafi MUSLIMS! The same cancer you find in Pakistan!!

      • Drakken

        How can I put this as nicely as I can, eff the pakis, hide savages in your midst pay the piper. Your lucky that I am not in charge, I would level a few cities just to make the point to the muslims of what I would be prepared to do.

    • TeamINFIDEL

      MUSLIMS rampage and burn our flags. These animals are looking for Europeans and Westerners to kidnap. They’re threatening innkeepers and generally raising holy Muslim hell not because of any outrage over a cartoon or a You Tube posting.

      MUSLIMS are outraged because it is part of the Islamic jihadist culture to be outraged.

      MUSLIMS don’t really need a reason. They just need an excuse. MUSLIMS wandering around, destroying property, murdering children, firing guns into the air and feigning outrage over the slightest perceived insult is to a jihadist what tailgating is to a Steeler’s fan. Sorry Pittsburgh

      GOT ISLAM??

  • stefandexter

    Europeans finally have had enough of political correctness, the religion / ideology Islam and the Muslims intolerance and violent behaviour. Still the political elites are pushing for more multiculturalism.

    Sweden (a small country, popultation 9.5 million) is the world’s most extreme multicultural guinea pig experiment with a massive immigration from
    Middle East and North Africa and now has the second highest number of rapes in the world.

    • johnarleyburns

      Here in Germany we have almost 10% Muslim population, Muslims were our allies in WWII, and we’re doing just fine with them.

      • stefandexter

        “Muslims were our allies in WWII”. I rest my case.

        A german poll,
        http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2012/12/german-poll-indicates-a-widespread-fear-of-muslims-and-islam

        • johnarleyburns

          A poll showing “widespread fear” in Germany. Germans are afraid of just about anything involving someone from the next village over, let alone another continent.

          The poll, if you read it closely, shows that Germans have a largely negative view of Islam. I don’t see why this would be a long-term problem having us live together. After all, this is the same country that fought long and devastating wars over which brand of Christianity we wanted to follow, ultimately deciding that we’d accept both.

          • Drakken

            The Germans are growing rather tired of you muslim savages, they will return to their cold hard Teutonic roots soon enough, much to your chagrin.

      • TeamInfidel

        SS Heinrich Himmler marveled ISLAM…wishing the German people would fight and die for Hitler as do MUSLIMS for their ISLAM.

        Himmler also admired the Muslim concept of martyrdom: if you die on the battlefield as a jihadist (Muslim holy warrior) and so become a martyr, you will be amply rewarded in the afterlife (“paradise”).

        This is precisely what Haj Amin Al-Husseini told the Muslim soldiers in the SS back during World War II

        Nazis and MUSLIMS really believe many of the same Bull S#5#$!!
        No surprise!

  • BotillaBianco

    Unfortunately us Dutchies, just like most European countries, feel like Islam-related crime is just an incident. But hey, we’ll find out when it’s too late.

    • johnarleyburns

      You consider freedom of religion “unfortunate”?

      • Oracle9

        It’s totalitarianism disguised as freedom of religion – that’s what ‘progressives’ refuse to acknowledge and paradoxically support. Read Glazov’s “United in Hate – The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror”.

        Shades of 1930s but this one won’t be of armies lining up in neat rows. Look at clips from Syria to get some idea.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jack-Arnold/1259562281 Jack Arnold

    Islam doesn’t offer much to the Middle East either. If you don’t want what you’ve always got you have to stop doing what you’ve always done.

  • Stormzeye

    Freedom of religion should not amount to a suicide pact. They know this in the Islamic world where there is no freedom of religion.

    • TeamInfidel

      Agree! Islamic Imperialism is the greatest imperialist force the world has ever seen. Until recently, the Western Hemisphere has been largely isolated and protected from Universal Jihad by geographical and technological barriers.

      Today, all of that has changed. Revenue from oil is enabling these Islamic
      countries to purchase the latest and best weapons to KILL and spread their Islamic cancer and we are allowing this cancer to live amongst us!

  • johnarleyburns

    Islam vs the West is just the Papist vs. Protestant argument of the 21st century. One day we will look back and wonder how people ever had so much bloodshed over such absurd topics as disagreement over which invisible man in the sky to follow.

    • Drakken

      East is east and west is west and never the twain shall meet, there will be war alright.

  • The_Heretic70

    Too little too late. Their fate was written years ago. Europe will be Eurasia within 20 years, probably less.

    • Drakken

      In case you haven’t noticed, the natives are getting restless and angry, this is not going to end well for the muslims and their leftist enablers. Think Balkans on steroids.

      • The_Heretic70

        There are already too many Muslims for any discontent to be effective. And they are multiplying like rabbits.

  • boris Bridva

    You know how you can tell that this is bullshit? Because Dutch people don’t give a fuck, ever.

    • martiendejong

      hehe, I like this.

  • martiendejong

    I am born dutch and living in the Netherlands and I feel disappointed upon hearing this. The Netherlands has always had an image of displaying tolerance towards other opinions and cultural differences. This hateful and condescending attitude towards immigrants and especially muslims is a step back. Geert Wilders is a politician who says things that are very offensive to many people here in Holland. He is regarded as a clown here. I hope that some day these people come to their senses and start to act in a positive way.

    • TeamInfidel

      You what an appeaser is, don’t you? An appeaser is one that holds on to a tiger holding it will eat him last.

      Remember, It is still possible, even today, for Muslims to view the Koran, which they regard as valid for all time, as a licence to kill. And that is exactly what happens.

      The Koran is worded in such a way that its instructions are addressed to
      Muslims for eternity, which includes today’s Muslims.This in contrast to texts in the Bible, which is formulated as a number of historical narratives, placing events in a distant past.
      Let us remind ourselves that it was Muslims, not Jews or Christians, who committed the catastrophic terrorist attacks in New York, Madrid and London; and that it was no coincidence that Theo van Gogh was
      brutally murdered by a Muslim, Mohammed Bouyeri.
      If you don’t address this MUSLIM cancer in your country, you are toast!
      Wilders is a HERO! At least he is addressing the cancer in your country, you??

      • martiendejong

        I would be laughing at this if it were not for all the Muslims that are vilified with this rhetoric.

        Muslims can be peaceful just like Christians, Jews or Buddhists.

        There are 2 billions Muslims in the world and only a very small portion of them are violent extremists yet most of them are treated as if they were extremist.

        They may not even be Muslims but because of the color of their skin that makes them look Arabic they are already labeled and judged as a potential terrorist or a bad person in general.

        I have many Muslim friends and we discuss this topics a lot. They are not nearly as fundamentalist as you think, and most of them discuss religious topic openly and even make fun of it.

        Many have a belief that many religions contain parts of the truth but theirs is of course “more true” than others. This attitude can be found in many Christians or people of other religions as well.

        We also discuss the texts instructing violence and they laugh at those saying only stupid people take those texts literally.

        But many Muslims are subject to severe discrimination because people assume they hold views that they never expressed.

        Many Muslims/foreigners in Holland feel very bad about this.

        It makes it very difficult for them to find a job or fit in with social circles.

        It is exactly the opposite of what we are trying to achieve.

        We want to give people of different religions and worldviews the opportunity to live together in harmony.

        There should be no bullying from religious people towards non religious people, but it should also not be the other way around.

        Even though you may not like people’s religious beliefs, you should not harass them for it. You would not like them to do that to you, so you shouldn’t do it to them either.

        And this is exactly what Wilders is doing. He is harassing people, putting them against each other. He is not interested in solutions, because the problems are getting him votes.

        Frequently he was invited to talk with representatives from Muslim or Moroccan communities and he declined and made derogatory comments instead.

        Wilders was banned from walking with the parade on the crowning of our king, because the Dutch royalty think he is stupid and they would feel embarassed if he participated.

        I see that you are very determined in “fighting Islam”, Islam means peace btw in case you didn’t know =).Is there anything that happened to you personally that set you on this path? If so, would you care to share?

        Best wishes.

  • stefandexter

    “Looking at all people killed by terrorist attacks in Europe and North America during the last 10 years, 97% was committed by Muslim terrorist, or 4703 of 4873 killed. Most of this is September 11 alone.
    Still, even if we exclude the September 11 attacks, the share of casualties due to Muslim terror is 91%.”

    “Remember, I do not include any Islamists terrorist attacks in the Middle East or South Asia or Africa or anywhere else other than Europe and North America. Based on State Department Data and to unimaginable horror these attacks appear to have killed in excess of 10,000 people per year during the last decade.”
    http://super-economy.blogspot.se/2011/02/islamists-caus-overwhelming-majority-of.html

    • TeamInfidel

      Correct! Research confirms that better than 95% of all terrorist acts are the result of Islam and that they are perpetrated by fundamentalist (i.e., good) Muslims.

      And that means, if just 20% of Muslims are fundamentalists, they are 3,000% more violent than the rest of the world. And as such, our very survival is defendant upon us coming to understand the religious motivations for their attacks so that we can stop them by exposing and condemning their hateful scriptures.

  • thegoldman

    I think governments will start to listen to the people…

    One way or the other…

  • Freddy Di Guglielmo

    I think that I have found the place called “Heaven”!!
    Funny though, it was the Dutch traders who brought the African slaves to the USA… The “ROOTS” of the biggest problem that we have here!

    • disqus_ZPzOjM5TKt

      you are very welcome for that, you may also have our muslims if you like!

  • Milt

    Geert Wilders was twice put on trial in The Netherlands for speaking the truth about Islam. He should be considered a HERO there but he and his family live under constant threat of death by the worthless muslim population AND the sorry, good for nothing Home Secretary of the UK won’t allow Mr. Wilders to enter Britain because she’s afraid of making the MUZZIE’s mad.

    • TeamInfidel

      Wilders has the guts to call out ISLAM for what it really is. He is a hero in my book!

      Here is what Wilders said about this hateful ideology called ISLAM:

      “Madam Speaker, the Islamic incursion must be stopped. Islam is the Trojan Horse in Europe. If we do not stop Islamification now, Eurabia and Netherabia will just be a matter of time. One century ago, there were approximately 50 Muslims in the Netherlands. Today, there are about 1 million Muslims in this country. Where will it end? We are heading for the end of European and Dutch civilisation as we know it.

  • stefandexter

    Breaking News,
    Schweiz, another country in Europe has had enough. The 78,5 percent of voters say yes to the asylum law revision.
    http://bazonline.ch/schweiz/standard/Volk-sagt-klar-Ja-zur-Asylgesetzrevision/story/19202334

  • ObamaYoMoma

    72 percent favor a constitutional ban on Sharia law in the Netherlands.

    The only way to effectively ban and reverse all Sharia law in the Netherlands or anywhere else for that matter is to ban and reverse all Islamic immigration as well, as the first and foremost requirement of Islam, which sets it apart from being a religion and which also makes Islam a cult as well, is the total, complete, and unconditional submission to the will of Allah under the penalty of death for the offenses of blasphemy and apostasy, and what exactly is the will of Allah. The will of Allah is in effect Islamic totalitarian Sharia law.

    Thus, every time a country imports a new Muslim immigrant it also imports Sharia unwittingly at the same time as well.

    • TeamInfidel

      The purpose of Universal ISLAM and the Jihad madness it brings with it,
      its mandate, its raison d’etre is conquest of the infidels and their nations-all of them-whether by conversion, domination, or death.

      In political Islam, there is NO fourth choice. ISLAM does not countenance any form of permanent peace with infidels. None!!

  • david baden

    I wish that some organisation would run such a survey in my own country [Australia] but probably all the naive ‘bleeding hearts” would not let it even get off the ground for fear of offending their precious “religion” if,in light of world events you can call it a religion.

  • Dinkydau

    The media in the Netherlands have given Geert Wilders such a bad name that even though a majority would agree with his plans on almost everything, this majority still doesn’t vote for him. They think that what Geert Wilders says is “impossible” and that he only says it to gain votes and be in power, and that he is really a racist and may become some kind of Hitler if elected. I really hate that there’s a genocide going on against my people and my culture and everyone just allows it to happen.

  • Dude1975

    I believe the American people are also finally getting fed up with Islamic people. Unfortunately our president Isn’t.

  • salliejones

    Unfortunately the muslims will take over in the Neitherlandws there too,, birth rate. You need to kick them out of the country, period. In one generation Italy will be controlled by the muslims…check it out, I believe muslims there are 40% of population.

    That is what the mexicans are doing to the usa too. They voted for obama(illegally also) and obamas muslims will kill the mexicans because they are some type of Christian.
    Don’t kid your self many of our mega churches are bringing in these muslims and many of our christian churches are teaching their people to learn about Islam and understand it, this is great for the muslims in this country…they are just waiting…