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	<title>Comments on: Man Tries to Draw Attention to Global Warming by Going to Antarctica, Suffers Frostbite</title>
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		<title>By: laiyth</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 09:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the scientists that measured the ice core CO2 didn&#039;t know what they were doing.  CO2 is a permeable gas, meaning it doesn&#039;t stay locked in a medium such as ice.  Ice within itself is not a static solid.  Liquid water can exist in ice.  CO2 can combine with compounds in the ice to form something called Clathrates.  Since it is no longer free CO2, ice core drillers will not find the original amount of CO2 that may have been trapped during the initial snowfall.  Therefore you get seriously depleted CO2 levels that people assume were historic CO2 levels when in fact they are not. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the scientists that measured the ice core CO2 didn&#039;t know what they were doing.  CO2 is a permeable gas, meaning it doesn&#039;t stay locked in a medium such as ice.  Ice within itself is not a static solid.  Liquid water can exist in ice.  CO2 can combine with compounds in the ice to form something called Clathrates.  Since it is no longer free CO2, ice core drillers will not find the original amount of CO2 that may have been trapped during the initial snowfall.  Therefore you get seriously depleted CO2 levels that people assume were historic CO2 levels when in fact they are not. </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/man-tries-to-draw-attention-to-global-warming-by-going-to-antarctica-suffers-frostbite/comment-page-1/#comment-4338625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bull puckey. 
 
Conservatives are not anti-science.  THey are actually pretty pro-science.  Leftists on the other hand are pro-ideology, and don&#039;t let the facts get in the way. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bull puckey. </p>
<p>Conservatives are not anti-science.  THey are actually pretty pro-science.  Leftists on the other hand are pro-ideology, and don&#039;t let the facts get in the way. </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/man-tries-to-draw-attention-to-global-warming-by-going-to-antarctica-suffers-frostbite/comment-page-1/#comment-4338620</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[also please explain, if the glaciers are all melting so fast, how a WW II plane was found under 50 feet of ice? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also please explain, if the glaciers are all melting so fast, how a WW II plane was found under 50 feet of ice? </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/man-tries-to-draw-attention-to-global-warming-by-going-to-antarctica-suffers-frostbite/comment-page-1/#comment-4338619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you hear about the leaked UN report on Climate Change which acknowledges that... dun dun dun...THE SUN, is more of an influence in &quot;global warming&quot; than they previously admitted? 
 
Thousands of other scientists say the exact opposite of the ones you are listening to.  And the ones you are listening to are doing it for government grant money.  Or, like Dr. Andrew Weaver of UVic, they&#039;re just a wacked out commie. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you hear about the leaked UN report on Climate Change which acknowledges that&#8230; dun dun dun&#8230;THE SUN, is more of an influence in &quot;global warming&quot; than they previously admitted? </p>
<p>Thousands of other scientists say the exact opposite of the ones you are listening to.  And the ones you are listening to are doing it for government grant money.  Or, like Dr. Andrew Weaver of UVic, they&#039;re just a wacked out commie. </p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trevor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 10:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is there no mention of the charity he was doing this in aid of? 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is there no mention of the charity he was doing this in aid of? </p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scientists are now predicting that the Arctic ice will in a a few years be so thin that ocean going vessels will be able to sail through from the Pacific to the Atlantic without the assistance of icebreakers. The ice caps of Greenland and the Antarctic as well as mountain glaciers worldwide are retreating dramatically.Year on year storms and hurricanes and tornadoes are becoming more frequent and more intense. Desertification is accelerating. A few degrees of temperature difference has a massive effect. Why don&#039;t you actually read the scientific literature? A moron like you knows more than thousands of scientists around the world who have been studying this for years?  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientists are now predicting that the Arctic ice will in a a few years be so thin that ocean going vessels will be able to sail through from the Pacific to the Atlantic without the assistance of icebreakers. The ice caps of Greenland and the Antarctic as well as mountain glaciers worldwide are retreating dramatically.Year on year storms and hurricanes and tornadoes are becoming more frequent and more intense. Desertification is accelerating. A few degrees of temperature difference has a massive effect. Why don&#039;t you actually read the scientific literature? A moron like you knows more than thousands of scientists around the world who have been studying this for years?  </p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you looked at the data showing the retreat of glaciers in the past 30 years? Look at the visual evidence from photography of both mountain glaciers and polar ice caps and you tell me that we are not experiencing an unprecedented melt back of ice? I am not a scientist but when THOUSANDS of scientists worldwide who are all INDEPENDENTLY studying this phenomenon produce report after report after report that they have found a link a between rising temperatures, dramatic climate changes and human production of CO2 then I go with what they have to say. 
I bet you are going to tell me next that all the all the doctors are lying about the links between fast food and morbid obesity?   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you looked at the data showing the retreat of glaciers in the past 30 years? Look at the visual evidence from photography of both mountain glaciers and polar ice caps and you tell me that we are not experiencing an unprecedented melt back of ice? I am not a scientist but when THOUSANDS of scientists worldwide who are all INDEPENDENTLY studying this phenomenon produce report after report after report that they have found a link a between rising temperatures, dramatic climate changes and human production of CO2 then I go with what they have to say.<br />
I bet you are going to tell me next that all the all the doctors are lying about the links between fast food and morbid obesity?   </p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 02:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or Global Frostbite. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or Global Frostbite. </p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[james]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i hope his wiener fell off ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hope his wiener fell off </p>
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		<title>By: Clark Banner</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/man-tries-to-draw-attention-to-global-warming-by-going-to-antarctica-suffers-frostbite/comment-page-1/#comment-4336944</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clark Banner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Richard you&#039;re completely right. Daniel Greenfield is lying to his audience by misrepresenting and telling the partial stories of his reporting on Climate Change. Anybody with access to google can tell you this article completely misrepresents what the Explorer actually thought about the region and what he was doing there. 
 
Greenfield can not report on Climate Change and disprove it based on scientific data because he knows he can&#039;t. All he can do is name drop Al Gore (as if that man has written one peer reviewed journal on Climate Science ever). 
 
It&#039;s sad. Because conservatives are so anti-science in general, people consider them lying zealots and will completely ignore them on Islam. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Richard you&#039;re completely right. Daniel Greenfield is lying to his audience by misrepresenting and telling the partial stories of his reporting on Climate Change. Anybody with access to google can tell you this article completely misrepresents what the Explorer actually thought about the region and what he was doing there. </p>
<p>Greenfield can not report on Climate Change and disprove it based on scientific data because he knows he can&#039;t. All he can do is name drop Al Gore (as if that man has written one peer reviewed journal on Climate Science ever). </p>
<p>It&#039;s sad. Because conservatives are so anti-science in general, people consider them lying zealots and will completely ignore them on Islam. </p>
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		<title>By: Toni_Pereira</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toni_Pereira]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 22:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are reffering to the Hockey stick Graph, it&#039;s something that came out of Goracle&#039;s ass. Why all the obsession?(with the graphic, with Gore&#039;s ass i really don&#039;t wanna know) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are reffering to the Hockey stick Graph, it&#039;s something that came out of Goracle&#039;s ass. Why all the obsession?(with the graphic, with Gore&#039;s ass i really don&#039;t wanna know) </p>
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		<title>By: Raymond in DC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raymond in DC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 22:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correlation doesn&#039;t  equate to causality. Didn&#039;t you learn that at some point in your education? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correlation doesn&#039;t  equate to causality. Didn&#039;t you learn that at some point in your education? </p>
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		<title>By: Toni_Pereira</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toni_Pereira]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 22:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve already debated two Jeovah Witnesses in the morning. Three freaks in one day it&#039;s too much for me, sorry. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve already debated two Jeovah Witnesses in the morning. Three freaks in one day it&#039;s too much for me, sorry. </p>
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		<title>By: Toni_Pereira</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toni_Pereira]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 22:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It turned out to be a lovely oportunity to draw attention to Global Cooling. Thank you!! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It turned out to be a lovely oportunity to draw attention to Global Cooling. Thank you!! </p>
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		<title>By: Clark Banner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clark Banner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 22:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it so funny that you mislead the audience about the explorer&#039;s intentions... as if he was thinking it would be a tropical paradise. The Explorer&#039;s expedition was even going to be called &quot;The Coldest Journey.&quot;  From his website: 
 
&quot;The 2000-mile journey across the continent has for many years been considered too perilous to try and the expedition&#039;s five-man* &quot;Ice Team&quot; will have to overcome one of earth&#039;s most hostile environments if they are to succeed, exposing themselves to temperatures dropping close to -90c and operating in near permanent darkness.&quot; 
 
Did you even go into what he was going to do there? You deceive your audience just as much as the left. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it so funny that you mislead the audience about the explorer&#039;s intentions&#8230; as if he was thinking it would be a tropical paradise. The Explorer&#039;s expedition was even going to be called &quot;The Coldest Journey.&quot;  From his website: </p>
<p>&quot;The 2000-mile journey across the continent has for many years been considered too perilous to try and the expedition&#039;s five-man* &quot;Ice Team&quot; will have to overcome one of earth&#039;s most hostile environments if they are to succeed, exposing themselves to temperatures dropping close to -90c and operating in near permanent darkness.&quot; </p>
<p>Did you even go into what he was going to do there? You deceive your audience just as much as the left. </p>
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		<title>By: Clark Banner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clark Banner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Knock Knock? 
 
Who&#039;s there? 
 
Lazy Reporting. 
 
Lazy Reporting by who 
 
By you.  
 
Debate a climate scientist. Oh wait. You&#039;re too afraid. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knock Knock? </p>
<p>Who&#039;s there? </p>
<p>Lazy Reporting. </p>
<p>Lazy Reporting by who </p>
<p>By you.  </p>
<p>Debate a climate scientist. Oh wait. You&#039;re too afraid. </p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last ice age ended some 20000 years ago.  Global warming has occurred at an unprecedented rate for the last 100 years and you want to ignore or disregard  its probable causes?  Please feel free to do so. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last ice age ended some 20000 years ago.  Global warming has occurred at an unprecedented rate for the last 100 years and you want to ignore or disregard  its probable causes?  Please feel free to do so. </p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please don&#039;t be personal; I don&#039;t know you.  That Greenland was green or full of vines is immaterial to the overall, average surface temperature. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#039;t be personal; I don&#039;t know you.  That Greenland was green or full of vines is immaterial to the overall, average surface temperature. </p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems an excellent job has been done in poisoning the well of climate research.  Given the severity the original Climategate allegations (e.g. academic misconduct, falsification of data, conspiracy to deceive the public) one might have expected that severe, even criminal sanctions would be imposed on individual researchers.  The reality is rather different.  A series of enquiries found that the researchers had no case to answer with respect to academic misconduct (what was revealed in the emails was that their data were manipulated - and data are always manipulated by research).  Further studies and repeated analyses confirmed that the disputed data (including the now infamous hockey stick graph) were sound and robust.  According to these and other data, the Earth&#039;s surface has warmed by 1 degree C over the last century, with the most rapid change occurring within the last 30 years.  This represents an unprecedented rate of change that is likely attributable to the burning of fossil fuels.  And yet many still believe that the individual researchers in the Climategate &#039;scandal&#039; are guilty of something underhand and that there is no substance to the huge amounts of data that are evidence confirming global warming.  One is reminded of the egregious beliefs of those conspiracy theorists who insist that Pres. Bush had foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks on NY, and somehow finessed the collapse of the towers.  I think both conspiracy theories verge on the absurd; they certainly are ridiculous.  9/11 conspiracy theories seemed to have (reasonably) died a death, but if someone here still thinks that the individual climate researchers whose candid emails were hacked ARE conspirators, it might be worthwhile to check out the current positions of those same researchers.  They are still tenured professors at prestigious universities, they still take students (maybe your children!), and they still draw a salary (maybe even handsome salaries) from the public purse.  The conspiracy seems to get bigger and bigger!  We live in perilous times. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems an excellent job has been done in poisoning the well of climate research.  Given the severity the original Climategate allegations (e.g. academic misconduct, falsification of data, conspiracy to deceive the public) one might have expected that severe, even criminal sanctions would be imposed on individual researchers.  The reality is rather different.  A series of enquiries found that the researchers had no case to answer with respect to academic misconduct (what was revealed in the emails was that their data were manipulated &#8211; and data are always manipulated by research).  Further studies and repeated analyses confirmed that the disputed data (including the now infamous hockey stick graph) were sound and robust.  According to these and other data, the Earth&#039;s surface has warmed by 1 degree C over the last century, with the most rapid change occurring within the last 30 years.  This represents an unprecedented rate of change that is likely attributable to the burning of fossil fuels.  And yet many still believe that the individual researchers in the Climategate &#039;scandal&#039; are guilty of something underhand and that there is no substance to the huge amounts of data that are evidence confirming global warming.  One is reminded of the egregious beliefs of those conspiracy theorists who insist that Pres. Bush had foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks on NY, and somehow finessed the collapse of the towers.  I think both conspiracy theories verge on the absurd; they certainly are ridiculous.  9/11 conspiracy theories seemed to have (reasonably) died a death, but if someone here still thinks that the individual climate researchers whose candid emails were hacked ARE conspirators, it might be worthwhile to check out the current positions of those same researchers.  They are still tenured professors at prestigious universities, they still take students (maybe your children!), and they still draw a salary (maybe even handsome salaries) from the public purse.  The conspiracy seems to get bigger and bigger!  We live in perilous times. </p>
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