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	<title>Comments on: New York Times Worries About Shortage of Walls for Graffiti Vandals to Vandalize</title>
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		<title>By: Mr. C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 07:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is some whack bullshit happening on this page that I cannot even bend my mind to understand. You act like graffiti is not one of the most pervasive, and widely spread forms of visual art that has ever come out of america. That the artists are not some of the most celebrated and widely known names in the art world in recent years... In fact you sit here and and basically say that by using aerosol you become LESS of an artist. That writers are &quot;THUGS&quot; and &quot;GANG MEMBERS&quot; which, if you actually read interviews from members of vandal squads you would know is completely and equivocally untrue.

You points about graffiti not being &quot;Working class&quot; is bullshit as well. If you ever read a history of working class stuggles, especially those on unions and their clash with police, you would realize that the the terms &quot;working class&quot; and &quot;criminal underclass&quot; are practically synonymous. Laws that are created by the RICH do only one thing, which is ensure those with power STAY in power, and that those without power wither away. You want a 5 day work week? They would throw you in Jail. Women&#039;s rights? Jail. End racial segregation? Beat you into a PULP, and if you don&#039;t die? Jail. I do not pretend that these issues necessarily relate one on one with graffiti art, but my point is that graffiti was built out of poverty. Its criminalization and gentrification has a lot to do with just that. It makes the powerful feel less powerful, the rich feel uncomfortable, and the misguided public feel &quot;unsafe&quot;, so its got to go. FUck these ideals about &quot;Oh, its private property and blah blah blah&quot;. It is but a wall. A train on a track, and a stop sign. New york city is a heap of shit, with homeless people and pollution running rampant and you are worried about a bit of color on a wall?

You have also taken pictures of Graffiti taken in the 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s (Times in which the STYLE of graffiti had never been defined, when subway writers were no more then 17 or 18 years old (many were much younger)) and compare them to Rembrant, a highly train fine artist of the baroque period that had YEARS of training under a master, and NEVER suffered the economic hardships that these young children endured (Yeah thats right bitch. Graffiti writers have formal educations too). It is not even a comparison. There is barely anything to compare. Its like comparing cave paintings to the painters of the Italian renaissance. The BEGINNINGS of an art form to where art ended up after the mistakes of generations. Straight Ignorance, and no depth of understanding.

I could go on and point out EVERY flaw in this article, as there are a lot, but my major points have been made. Graffiti is VERY important to many people on this planet, and they will never give two shit about the opinion of a laymen like you Daniel Greenfeild. Stick to &quot;Radical Islam&quot; and stay the fuck out of topics you will never relinquish a bias from.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some whack bullshit happening on this page that I cannot even bend my mind to understand. You act like graffiti is not one of the most pervasive, and widely spread forms of visual art that has ever come out of america. That the artists are not some of the most celebrated and widely known names in the art world in recent years&#8230; In fact you sit here and and basically say that by using aerosol you become LESS of an artist. That writers are &#8220;THUGS&#8221; and &#8220;GANG MEMBERS&#8221; which, if you actually read interviews from members of vandal squads you would know is completely and equivocally untrue.</p>
<p>You points about graffiti not being &#8220;Working class&#8221; is bullshit as well. If you ever read a history of working class stuggles, especially those on unions and their clash with police, you would realize that the the terms &#8220;working class&#8221; and &#8220;criminal underclass&#8221; are practically synonymous. Laws that are created by the RICH do only one thing, which is ensure those with power STAY in power, and that those without power wither away. You want a 5 day work week? They would throw you in Jail. Women&#8217;s rights? Jail. End racial segregation? Beat you into a PULP, and if you don&#8217;t die? Jail. I do not pretend that these issues necessarily relate one on one with graffiti art, but my point is that graffiti was built out of poverty. Its criminalization and gentrification has a lot to do with just that. It makes the powerful feel less powerful, the rich feel uncomfortable, and the misguided public feel &#8220;unsafe&#8221;, so its got to go. FUck these ideals about &#8220;Oh, its private property and blah blah blah&#8221;. It is but a wall. A train on a track, and a stop sign. New york city is a heap of shit, with homeless people and pollution running rampant and you are worried about a bit of color on a wall?</p>
<p>You have also taken pictures of Graffiti taken in the 70&#8242;s and 80&#8242;s (Times in which the STYLE of graffiti had never been defined, when subway writers were no more then 17 or 18 years old (many were much younger)) and compare them to Rembrant, a highly train fine artist of the baroque period that had YEARS of training under a master, and NEVER suffered the economic hardships that these young children endured (Yeah thats right bitch. Graffiti writers have formal educations too). It is not even a comparison. There is barely anything to compare. Its like comparing cave paintings to the painters of the Italian renaissance. The BEGINNINGS of an art form to where art ended up after the mistakes of generations. Straight Ignorance, and no depth of understanding.</p>
<p>I could go on and point out EVERY flaw in this article, as there are a lot, but my major points have been made. Graffiti is VERY important to many people on this planet, and they will never give two shit about the opinion of a laymen like you Daniel Greenfeild. Stick to &#8220;Radical Islam&#8221; and stay the fuck out of topics you will never relinquish a bias from.</p>
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		<title>By: Biff Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biff Henderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 09:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One man&#039;s vandal is another&#039;s subversive cultural force who niggles their objections through an outlawed form of &quot;art.&quot;  These attuned intellects are the engines that can change the world.  I know the drill and it&#039;s crap.


Let&#039;s put this &quot;art&quot; in perspective.  Like many artists Norman Rockwell signed his work.  Aside from his work his signature is a distinct logotype that separates him from the crowd.  Pabst Blue Ribbon verses Heineken.  Fubu verses Nike.  How the shameless self-promotion of branding in the form of a unique logotype that desperately screams  &quot;LOOK AT ME!&quot; is construed as a valued niche in the artistic community escapes me.  This egomaniacal, reductionist claptrap offered up in the same way one rapper hollah&#039;s I&#039;m the best there ever was.  When &quot;art&quot; is reduced to self-aggrandizement for its own sake that&#039;s where I draw the line.


Haters be hating, right Bro?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One man&#8217;s vandal is another&#8217;s subversive cultural force who niggles their objections through an outlawed form of &#8220;art.&#8221;  These attuned intellects are the engines that can change the world.  I know the drill and it&#8217;s crap.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s put this &#8220;art&#8221; in perspective.  Like many artists Norman Rockwell signed his work.  Aside from his work his signature is a distinct logotype that separates him from the crowd.  Pabst Blue Ribbon verses Heineken.  Fubu verses Nike.  How the shameless self-promotion of branding in the form of a unique logotype that desperately screams  &#8220;LOOK AT ME!&#8221; is construed as a valued niche in the artistic community escapes me.  This egomaniacal, reductionist claptrap offered up in the same way one rapper hollah&#8217;s I&#8217;m the best there ever was.  When &#8220;art&#8221; is reduced to self-aggrandizement for its own sake that&#8217;s where I draw the line.</p>
<p>Haters be hating, right Bro?</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 08:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re a fucking idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a fucking idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: UCSPanther</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UCSPanther]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 07:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know its getting silly when the crude scrawlings from &quot;markin&#039; up da hood&quot; are considered &quot;art&quot;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know its getting silly when the crude scrawlings from &#8220;markin&#8217; up da hood&#8221; are considered &#8220;art&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alericKong</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alericKong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 05:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re setting the stage for Villheim&#039;s new New York.


Next issue they&#039;ll describe the comforting warmth of fluid discharge spray, and self-awarness via battering.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re setting the stage for Villheim&#8217;s new New York.</p>
<p>Next issue they&#8217;ll describe the comforting warmth of fluid discharge spray, and self-awarness via battering.</p>
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		<title>By: Biff Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biff Henderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 02:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True, but I see him more as a dumb animal put on a scent,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, but I see him more as a dumb animal put on a scent,</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[isn&#039;t that Eric Holde&#039;rs job?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#8217;t that Eric Holde&#8217;rs job?</p>
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		<title>By: Biff Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biff Henderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there&#039;s one thing liberals are good at it&#039;s legitimizing criminality. What America lacks is a Criminal Indulgence Czar to formalize the process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s one thing liberals are good at it&#8217;s legitimizing criminality. What America lacks is a Criminal Indulgence Czar to formalize the process.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no right and wrong until the left defines it. That&#039;s the world they live in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no right and wrong until the left defines it. That&#8217;s the world they live in.</p>
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		<title>By: edlancey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[edlancey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and no doubt private owners have to pay to remove it from their buildings]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and no doubt private owners have to pay to remove it from their buildings</p>
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		<title>By: edlancey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[edlancey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wankers !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wankers !</p>
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		<title>By: Tim N</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim N]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;have long been a world-famous showcase for artists such as Cope, the Royal Kingbee and Skeme&quot; 
Artists?? How about vandals. 
I absolutely hate, loathe, and despise graffiti and graffiti vandals. 
Where I used to live, my fence got tagged from time to time. My policy was to go out with the belt sander and sand that garbage off the next day. I moisture sealed the wood to make it hard for the paint to sink it.  
These so called artists are just cheap trash and they trash up wherever they leave their illiterate tribal marks. Worthless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;have long been a world-famous showcase for artists such as Cope, the Royal Kingbee and Skeme&#8221;<br />
Artists?? How about vandals.<br />
I absolutely hate, loathe, and despise graffiti and graffiti vandals.<br />
Where I used to live, my fence got tagged from time to time. My policy was to go out with the belt sander and sand that garbage off the next day. I moisture sealed the wood to make it hard for the paint to sink it.<br />
These so called artists are just cheap trash and they trash up wherever they leave their illiterate tribal marks. Worthless.</p>
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