Obama Asks: “Would Libya Be Better Off With Gaddafi in Power?”

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That’s an interesting question considering that the government has broken down, the country is on the verge of civil war and Al Qaeda terrorists are openly operating training camps there.

“In Libya, when the Security Council provided a mandate to protect civilians,” Obama said at the UN “America joined a coalition that took action. Because of what we did there, countless lives were saved, and a tyrant could not kill his way back to power.”

Obama went far beyond the UN mandate by bombing his way to regime change. His actions resulted in the ethnic cleansing of Africans in Libya, the near Al Qaeda takeover of Mali and the permanent collapse of any meaningful authority in Libya.

“I know that some now criticize the action in Libya as an object lesson. They point to problems that the country now confronts – a democratically-elected government struggling to provide security; armed groups, in some places extremists, ruling parts of a fractured land – and argue that any intervention to protect civilians is doomed to fail.

“No one is more mindful of these problems than I am, for they resulted in the death of four outstanding U.S. citizens who were committed to the Libyan people, including Ambassador Chris Stevens – a man whose courageous efforts helped save the city of Benghazi.

“But does anyone truly believe that the situation in Libya would be better if Qadhafi had been allowed to kill, imprison, or brutalize his people into submission? It is far more likely that without international action, Libya would now be engulfed in civil war and bloodshed.”

Libya is now engulfed in civil war and bloodshed. Armed militias are running everything. Had Gaddafi won, it is very unlikely that this would have been the case.

Instead of Gaddafi killing his way to power, the Muslim Brotherhood and assorted Islamist militias are killing their way to power. Is that supposed to be an improvement?

But let’s look at whether America would have been better off if Obama hadn’t decided to implement regime change in Libya using a No Fly Zone as an excuse.

Four Americans would still be alive. Al Qaeda wouldn’t have come into a lot of weapons and wouldn’t be able to use Libyan territory as their own private training camps.

America would have been better off with Gaddafi in power. So would Libya.

  • Aizino Smith

    The answer is yes!

  • Aizino Smith

    Gaddaffi was a monster. but he kept terrorists in check, turned over his nuke and chemical weapons programs

    Now we have lots of new monsters running around. Growing.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      How do you keep jihadis in the middle east in check without being what Westerners will see as a “monster?”

      Just want to know if I’ve missed something.

      • A Z

        I don’t know. I do not care.

        Who is going to say someone is a monster? The press? they do not have credibility. Newsweek is being sold again.

        The old media is dying. Sure the left has them on life support but they are dying.

        Looking at what Beck is doing with the blaze, what Jerry Doyle is doing with epictimes.com and what Mike Savage is doing I wonder if we are seeing an at least 33% replacement of the old press.

        I though hard about what i wrote about Gaddaffi. He was a monster. I have to wonder about how much people propped him up by not reading him the riot act. I am not talking about removing him from power but enabling his ego.

        A school girl who was “kidnapped” and raped by Gaddaffi and used as a zex slave, related that so many Western women would voluntarily have zex with Gaddaffi and go out of their way to do so. Women of means back in the west. and they came out of the bedroom looking like the cat that ate the canary.

        You gotta wonder how that fed his ego and made him worse if that was possible.

        I think reading him the riot act would have made him somewhat less rapacious. Maybe resentful, but maybe it would have been a wakeup call.

        Gaddaffi did remark something like this. “The west doesn’t know these people, when/if I am gone they will be a problem for the west. ”

        and that was true. Look at Mali.

        I really don’t care about the LSM. they had better not need me to ever throw them a life preserver or the like. I figure I owe them that courtesy after what they have wrought.

    • m4253y

      leadership, when viewed with glasses of varying ‘degrees’ of color will always be perceived by the optics of those ‘degrees’ as is the case with your perception of Qaddafi as a monster. For those who live there and are on the inside looking out, your supposed monster was in fact their peace and stability.

      now, assuming you are domiciled within the USA, looking inward, care to guess who is in fact the actual monster?

      • Aizino Smith

        When the Gadaffi’s wife is throwing scalding water on their maid, when Gaddaffi is a serial rapist, he is a monster.

        The people in a good 3rd of Libya, Cyrencia see Gadaffi as a monster.

        If you want to see a monster in North America, then leave your domicile in Toronto and walk west to Misssisagua. We’ll see how long you last.

        • Aizino Smith

          To m4253y

          The simple gates test will suffice. The gates of which country are people storming? It ain’t Libya.

          Why are so intent on protecting Gaddaffi’s legacy? I said him in power was in our interest. Someone else in Libya ruling might be better but that would be a crap
          shoot as Obama has shown. So I said that it is better that he is in power even though he is a monster.

          About the 1/3rd remark. As a rough cut analysis Libya is said to be made of two regions. I just mention the eastern one as being against him. There were plenty of people along the western coast that did not like him either.
          I would be willing to be that 50+% to 80% did not like him.
          I would figure the Cyrencia remark would be above argument.

          Naomi Campbell? Kennedies? The Kennedys are leftists, totalitarians. The Kennedies are part of the American left (which is certifiably American) We have had socialism well entrenched in some intellectual circles since the 1880s and maybe a generation earlier.

          While I would like to say the Kennedies do not represent America they represent a strain of it. but i take no responsibility for their idiocy.

          • m4253y

            it isn’t about protecting the former leader, it is about the end result of creating a power vacuum that will ultimately be filled with hajii islamofascists…i am sure you are you familiar with the expression ‘better the devil you know’

          • Aizino Smith

            objectivefactsmatter asked me ….

            “How do you keep jihadis in the middle east in check without being what Westerners will see as a “monster?”

            Just want to know if I’ve missed something.”

            That is they asked how do you keep a monster like Gadadffi , the devil you know” while at the same time keeping the baying hounds of the MSM at bay.

            I said “I do not know and I do not care”.

            1. My position is that is was better to leave Gaddaffi alone. He had not bother us for 8 years due to fear of Bush II & America. That is fact

            2. What to do about the press? go to alternate media and let the LSM slowly hemorrhage to death due to lack of readership. Would i like a great battle in the press, a debate? Yes, where people wake up and en masse cancel subscriptions to the NYT and all the other drek.
            but that won’t happen. So I have no quick solution to the LSM other than to let it wither on the vine.

  • Axl

    Gaddafi was a hero. He should have kept his nuke and chemical weapons as a deterrent. Why did he trust the USA?

    • objectivefactsmatter

      He didn’t understand the treachery of the Western left that sold him out. Kind of ironic since he leaned a bit to the left himself.

  • CowboyUp

    We were better off with a WMD defanged Quaddaffy, and we’re the one’s whose interests he’s supposed to be representing and defending. A sacked consulate and dead Ambassador tells me we’re not better off. That said, Libyans are worse off with the muslim brotherhood in charge.

  • Bob

    Yes, they would be better off if Gaddaffi was still in power

  • bob e

    they don’t come more stupid than barry o’fraud..our gay street hustlin’ pimp..

  • Gee

    We can hope that the new Libyan leaders make the Haj soon and bring back a virus that takes out the rest of the population

  • Biff Henderson

    The Muslim world is quickly becoming a collection of scurrying dung beetles pushing their ball of waste up a slip face.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      I noticed that recently, say during roughly the past 14 centuries.

      • Biff Henderson

        As of late the scarcity of choice dung is causing some friction in the House of Peace.

  • strayaway

    The article forgot to mention that two other unintended consequences the instability in Libya created by ridding Khaddafi were Benghazi and the turnover of 400 state of the art surface to air missiles to Al-Queda.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryan-Schmick/100000836170959 Bryan Schmick

      Paragraph 10 (including the pres Obama quotes):

      Four Americans would still be alive. Al Qaeda wouldn’t have come into a lot of weapons and wouldn’t be able to use Libyan territory as their own private training camps.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    Obama Asks: “Would Libya Be Better Off With Gaddafi in Power?”

    Um, funny you should ask now. YES!

  • Ellsworth Toohey

    Are you kidding ? He really asked ???

  • No RNC

    Another good take from DG, Thanks. How do you do so many excellent articles?

  • LindaRivera

    ‘Obama…bombing his way to regime change. His actions resulted in the ethnic cleansing of Africans in Libya, the near Al Qaeda takeover of Mali and the permanent collapse of any meaningful authority in Libya…

    Libya is now engulfed in civil war and bloodshed. Armed militias are running everything….’

    The above is precisely what Muslim Brotherhood leader Obama, rabid Jew-hater-Samantha Power and Fascist Left billionaire George Soros wanted and achieved. They are now working on the exact same goal in Syria. How many nations’ peoples have these humanity-haters targeted for death, destruction and suffering?

  • Texas Patriot

    It is apparent that Obama has now forgotten that he was elected to be president of the United States. He was not elected to be president of Libya, Egypt, Syria or any other Arab country.

    Instead of asking whether Libya would be better off if Ghaddafy were still in power, Obama should be asking whether America would be better off. And the answer to that question is unquestionably “yes”. And there are many Libyans today who would probably agree with that.

    Ghaddafy may have been a monster, but he was a largely secular monster who kept the peace and raised the level of prosperity in a highly volatile nation in the middle east. Now that he is gone, chaos reigns, and the Libyan people themselves are the ones who are suffering the most.

  • Doge Wallace

    Obama, a tremendous disappointment. I remember when you first won the election in 2008. I didn’t vote for you but I felt some “hope” and really did hope for “change”. Truly, a major disappointment. You destroyed Libya, and I see you’re still trying to destroy Syria. Why? You never should have run for President and should have just continued on as a university lecturer. Now, you’re a mass murderer with a peace prize. The world’s gone bonkers.