Obama: “I Have No Patience for Countries that Mistreat Gays or Lesbians… Unless They’re Muslim Countries”


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Recently Obama became a born again champion of gay marriage and men using the ladies room.

During an appearance on NBC’s “The Tonight Show,” Obama told host Jay Leno said he has “no patience for countries that try to treat gays and lesbians and transgendered persons in ways that intimidate them or are harmful to them.”

He also seemed to believe that Russia’s controversial new laws curbing apparent advocacy of homosexuality could cause problems at the 2014 winter Olympics in southern Russia.

Apparently Obama has no patience for Russia, but he has plenty of patience for Muslim countries.

Here’s how it is in Obama’s hometown in Jakarta.

In Jakarta lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transgendered, and transsexuals are legally labeled as “cacat” or mentally handicapped and are therefore not protected under the law.

In 2002, the Indonesian Government gave Aceh province the right to introduce Islamic sharia, albeit only to Muslim residents. For example, the city of Palembang introduced jail and fines for homosexual sex. Fifty-two regions have since enacted sharia law from the Koran which criminalizes homosexuality.

Meanwhile Saudi Arabia executes homosexuals (as long as they’re not influential locals). Virtually every Muslim country falls somewhere between these two poles.

Too bad the Muslim world doesn’t have any vodka to pour into the gutters. Discussing Muslim homophobia is a taboo. It’s fine to insult European countries, but treating Muslim countries the same way leads to persecution. Just look at the treatment Richard Dawkins is getting.

Of the seven countries that impose the death penalty for homosexuality, all are Muslim.

But Obama has patience for them. He even bows to them.

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  • Merican

    Keep pointing out the hypocritical BS that defines our 1st Gay President!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryan-Schmick/100000836170959 Bryan Schmick

      I’ve seen this more and more. What evidence is there of believing pres Obama is gay?

      • truebearing

        Try calling Larry Sinclair. He wrote a book about his crack smoking homosexual trysts with Obama.
        You also might want to read up on Donald Young, the gay choir director in Reverend Wright’s so-called church, and good friend of 20 year parishioner, Barack Obama. He was murdered, execution style, shortly before Obama began his political ascendancy to the presidency.
        Oh, and while you’re reading about Donald and Larry, don’t forget Obama’s other two gay friends who coincidentally were also murdered, execution style.
        And finally, did you ever see him throw a baseball?

        • Hell-Cat

          Or ride a bike?

      • beezwaxing

        There are many. You could start with Professor John Drew. Google him or, Google Hasan Chandoo, whose full name is Mohammed Hasan Chandoo. Go to Hillbuzz and read about Obama’s life after he arrived in Chicago. Also at least some of the dozen or more biographies by conservatives make mention of these matters. There’s one about Reverend Wright and the so-called “Down Low Club” at Trinity United Church of Christ. That will lead you into the murders of two homosexual members of that church, murders which are still unsolved and which took place in November and December, 2007. Donald Young was the choirmaster and was one of these murder victims.

        • iluvisrael

          I’ve read that the marriage to moochelle was arranged by wright – no wonder she always seems miserable.

          • beezwaxing

            Yes, well, I can imagine that she would be miserable. I’ve always thought of her as angry, but I had long assumed that her anger was directed at whites for racial reasons. Actually, I still think that’s the primary reason for the anger she displays so often, but Barack’s sexual identity might very well play into it too. My understanding is that she was on the verge of divorcing him, but his career in politics took off about that time, so she was, no doubt, encouraged to stay in the marriage by his financial prospects. I doubt anything has changed since, except, that by now, she surely must know that he’s gay. As for the two children, Hillbuzz probably has something to say about that, but I’ve personally known gays and lesbians who always considered themselves gay or lesbian, but they have children. I agree that it seems odd, but I know some of these people personally. In short, I don’t think it’s impossible for someone to be 100% gay and yet able to have procreative sex at least long enough to actually procreate.

          • c0mm0ncenz

            Prominent gays marry straight spouses and have children to look respectable. Seems now that that may change and we’ll have to be gay to be respectable. But it’s long been recognized that gays marry straights for looks only, then continue their gay sex. The spouse often finds out too late. I’ve done research on this.

          • DB1954

            I think that for some gay or lesbian people, there will always be a reason to keep their sexuality “in the closet,” so to speak. I know a woman who was in a particularly public profession. She was married once before, and had a daughter. She married again, but her second husband died rather young. She had an infant child with him at the time of his death. In less than a year of her husband’s death, she had already taken up with a woman, also an employee where she worked. I strongly suspected that she may have actually been in the relationship with the woman before her husband died. It was all very strange and shocking to me, but of course, I never even mentioned my suspicions about it to anyone. For one, it wasn’t my business. But I always suspected that she married the second husband to cover her lesbianism. These things happen I suppose, but the real point is, not just that homosexuality is a seriously deviant way of life, if the person has children and is hiding or lying about her homosexuality, there will be hell to pay when the children find out the truth. All children eventually find out in time.The children are ones who will be hurt, and NO one in a million years could convince me these are not truths. A wise sage once said, “Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.” Sir Walter Scott, I think.

      • Jim Lopez

        It’s NOT that Obama is gay.
        It’s a take on a similar phrase that was used when Clinton was called our first “black” president because he was so pro black American NOT that he himself was black, obviously.

        So, in turn, Newsweek chose to term Obama the first “gay” president because Obama supports gay rights more than any other president previously. NOT because Obama is gay.

        It’s a turn of phrase NOT meant to be taken literally.

        • beezwaxing

          No, actually you’re wrong. Moreover, the statement to that effect on the cover of Newsweek, was, in my view, an attempt to portray Obama’s homosexuality as figurative, not literal, and the allegation as a joke, not a reality.There are several articles by persons I regard as highly credible that have stated flatly that Obama is gay. I believe those articles are true. I say that because the authors are not only credible, but the articles themselves are all consistent in many details.

          • Robert4

            key phrase : “. I believe those articles are true” #truthiness

          • DB1954

            I’m not too impressed with that made-up, childish little cutesy pie word, “Truthy,” but if I were, nothing could more MORE “TRUTHY than the tales that Obama and his media handlers have told about him.

      • Thomas Harris

        What evidence is there to support anything contrary?

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryan-Schmick/100000836170959 Bryan Schmick

          Is that your stance? Everyone is gay unless they prove that they have no tender feelings for people of the same sex. Let’s all sit back while you prove yourself not to be gay. p.s. having sex with a person of the opposite sex isn’t enough since their is such a thing as bisexuals.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryan-Schmick/100000836170959 Bryan Schmick

        Thanks everybody but Thomas Harris for providing research points. I’d like to take the time to point out that some of these are allegations and mysterious situations though.

      • Hard Boiled

        people came out on You Tube about him being gay, to let him know they dont approve of what he was doing while in Africa. any suspicions were confirmed, because Africa is very homophobic, and he did something to piss them off while he was there.

        • beezwaxing

          Yes, the Kenyan (?) Vice President gave Obama a public smack down in which he said that people in his country do not support SSM because it’s a Christian nation.

    • Gary Morin

      And, so what if it turned out that President Obama were gay? What the hell is the big deal? We’ve sure had some crappy, adulterous and treasonous heterosexual presidents.

      • Hard Boiled

        Because those morals dont represent everyone, you might like it, but i should have a choice if i want that in a leader. one who is gay, but married to the opposite sex sham.

      • beezwaxing

        The allegations if proven would mean that Obama is lying to his wife and to his children. That’s perhaps not something that’s someone else’s business, except of course, that if the children find out that it’s true, it’s not exactly going to be a realization conducive to their mental health, especially if he continues to engage in homosexual relationships, and, by the way, the allegations are to the effect that Obama is 100% gay, not bisexual, 100% gay, and that he is still engaged in same sex relationships. How did a gay man manage to produce two children? I know several individuals personally who consider themselves 100% gay, have always considered themselves 100% gay, and yet they have children. In most cases, the gay parent comes out to the child. I am speaking here about the several individuals I personally know. Last point: it’s my contention that Obama is a mentally ill; that lying to him is like breathing; and that is consistent with lying about his sexual identity. He did what he had to do to get where he wanted to go, but it’s like the rest of his life, a huge deception.

        • Gary Morin

          So, you were okay with Bush and Cheney lying to America and causing the deaths of how many people or screwing up the economy? Frankly, I’ve come to realize that America’s reich wing are just a bunch of phony christians in name only who are selfish and just don’t want to share the American Dream – which you’ve already screwed up for yourselves and for others.

          Now, we know that Bush conned his way into getting his second administration. Didn’t PRESIDENT Obama win both the electoral college AND the popular vote. No, he’s not perfect, far from it I’m sure, but he’d do a lot better of the tea party-destroyed GOP got off their fat lazy asses and worked with the rest of Congress and with the President instead of doing NOTHING but being obstructionist. Point to one positive thing they’ve done for America since 2008. Just one.

      • beezwaxing

        Gary, the big deal would be that Obama LIED to his wife, to his children, to the American people and everyone else, if in fact he’s gay. Furthermore, Obama MIGHT have been blackmailed by SSM supporters, so to speak, into changing his position on SSM. It’s no surprise to me he lied about this issue. He lies about everything else.

        • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

          How big is the stone you are holding in your hand. Do you intend to throw it? Do you judge others? Do you love your neighbor? Do you know the words and life of Jesus?

      • DB1954

        Because if it turned out that he is gay, he’s been lying to everyone, including his children. Trust me, children will be devastated by this. You can deny it, but I can assure you, you’re only fooling yourself. Children WILL find out the truth; and children of gay parents DO feel shame about this fact, in spite of your allegations that straight people are the ones who make the children feel that way. We do not. That’s a lie. It’s simply a natural reaction to a deeply disturbing realization. Most children of gay parents who discover the truth about that parent usually will require therapy of some kind to deal with the trauma. B.O. should have come clean a long time ago about his true sexuality. The sooner the better. Sometimes even gay people have courageous choices to make. The path of TRUTH is always the right way even if it cost him a political career.

        • Gary Morin

          PRESIDENT Obama could walk on water and you tea baggers would find fault. You really should stop watching the same propaganda over and over and stop drinking the kool-aid.

          Find me a president who hasn’t lied to the American People? And they were all heterosexual and, by and large, white. You didn’t piss and moan about them, did you, as much as you do about Obama. Did you care about “voter fraud” under any of the white presidents or heterosexual presidents? Probably not.

          Try learning about science instead of relying on a book of fairy tales written by heterosexual polygamist men (and, no, Sodom and Gomorrah is NOT about same-sex relationships).

          • DB1954

            GM, I mentioned the Bible where, exactly? Seems my prior post struck a nerve. Hmm …

  • tagalog

    By what reasoning does Indonesia not provide equal legal protection for the mentally disabled?
    What’s with that?

    • Solo712

      Stop talking nonsense! Homosexuality is legal in Russia. Public displays of lewdness are illegal (i.e. nudity, simulated sex during parades). Distributing homosexual propaganda to minors is illegal.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryan-Schmick/100000836170959 Bryan Schmick

      I think you missed the statement that there were seven countries that impose the death penalty for being homosexual – all Islamic. I suspect being put to death is a tad worse than being told you can’t hold a gay parade

      • Jim Lopez

        Yeah, but the Russians ultimately have the same goal as the rag-heads which is to murder and annihilate gays, who similar to the Jews, like it or not, are the single greatest group for contributing to the style and class of the upper limits of our culture!! Without them we’re back to the dark ages. Just sayin!!

        Quite literally Dark Ages!!! Have you seen what the Taliban offers: uh yeah, Nothing!!

      • tagalog

        I think you missed the statement in my post where I made it clear that I was talking about laws that regulate the mentally handicapped and not homosexuals.

        That would be the first sentence of the post.

  • cathy

    Nation of Islam can open a restaurant in Chicago, but not Chick-fil-A?
    Thursday, July 26, 2012
    http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/07/nation-of-islam-can-open-a-restaurant-in-chicago-but-not-chick-fil-a/

    • Kenneth James Abbott

      That’s because Chik-Fil-A values are not Chicago values…..

      Which really explains Chicago’s murder rate.

      • AveMaria198202

        Who are you to say what Chicago values are? I hate to break it to you but people of Chicago have differing views on the issue. I hope and pray that most of them are for Chik-Fil-A.

        • Gary Morin

          Why would you be FOR the CEO of Chik-Fil-A, who gives money to governments and organizations behind the practice and laws of killing people simply for being homosexual? the protests were NOT about freedom of speech or opinion, but about the funding of murder based on nothing but one’s sexual orientation.

          • AveMaria198202

            You’re going to have to actually provide real and solid evidence that he gives money to governments and organizations behind the practice and laws of killing people simply for being homosexual because quite frankly, I don’t believe he does.

          • Gary Morin

            Just because you haven’t made the effort to find out or to seek out the other side of the story, you don’t believe it? You believe that LGBT people have a conspiracy, but the reich wing couldn’t have conspiracies? I call you on your BS. http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/historic-ruling-judge-orders-anti-gay-scott-lively-stand-trial-crimes-against-humanity150813

          • AveMaria198202

            I actually have made such an effort. I used to be for the “gay rights” movement. I am now against it.

          • Gary Morin

            So, why should I bother to take the high road and engage in a discussion and asked you what caused your change of heart/mind?

          • beezwaxing

            I call you on yours. Google Masha Gessen, the lesbian activist who says that gay activists and SSM supporters are LYING about SSM. Their real purpose is to destroy the institution, and they are lying about their intentions. She regards the destruction of marriage as a good thing, and so do they, but she is open and straightforward about it. Gays and lesbians are not.

          • Gary Morin

            I googled her this week, since I’d never heard of her before. Apparently, I never got the message or the memo about the gay agenda or gay conspiracy from any of our leaders. The “left wing” is far from being as organised (and malicious as well as well-funded from donations by the sheeple of religions and churches), so I guess I missed that indoctrination.

            Do assholes like Bryan Fischer or Pat Robertson represent you and every other heterosexual or every other Christian? Masha Gessen represents no one but Masha Gessen. She doesn’t represent me or anyone I knew, and she doesn’t speak for any of us. Maybe what she says is what SHE believes and desires. But if you really believe that every gay and lesbian person is lying and that she’s the one telling you the truth, you’re nothing but an ignorant and mean-spirited asshole.

          • beezwaxing

            GM, I wear your vile appellation as a badge of honor. Coming from someone who supports the greatest despot, fraud, charlatan, traitor, and decadent narcissist in all the history of humankind, i.e., Barack Hussein Obama. You have just demonstrated just how vile, cowardly, ignorant and malevolent you leftists truly are.

          • Gary Morin

            you and others keep repeating the same garbage – this one woman says X, so every gay and lesbian person who speaks otherwise is a liar – and with no rationale explanation how one individual is the true and only voice of truth and the rest of the entire LGBT population are liars and are ignorant. So, when I get fed up with your tripe, suddenly I’m the fascist. If you’re representative of the right, I wear your appellation with pride. I pity you, your husband or wife (if you have one), and your pathetic little children. What have YOU contributed to a positive and improving earth and world?

          • Gary Morin

            Here’s some “vile, cowardly, ignorant, and malevolent” reich wingers for you – http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/stan-solomon-trayvon-martin-deserved-die-and-so-does-faggot-dan-savage

          • beezwaxing

            Now that’s just nonsense. The CEO of Chik-Fil-A doesn’t do that. That’s so fatuous, such a lie, no one, not even liberals are going to believe that.

          • Gary Morin
          • beezwaxing

            Not going there, Gary. 1: I don’t care about gays and 2. I don’t care about “stars” gay or straight. 3. I don’t have any reason to believe anything from a gay or lesbian website.

          • Gary Morin

            And I clearly have no reason to believe anything from a christian website or any other site that is about some invisible man in the sky that wrote some book of tales five-thousand years ago. Lastly, why should I believe anything claimed or alleged by someone who seems to think it his/her right or obligation to stick their nose into other people’s ‘beezwax’?

            If you’re going to avoid or ignore everything that comes from a source that you’ve dismissed, then you’ve chosen to only look at something from one (narrow-minded) angle or perspective. And that, missy, is choosing to be ignorant and to sound as stupid as the likes of Bryan Fisher and Newt Gingrich. If you choose to cherry pick your “facts and information”, then I can choose to dismiss you as nothing worth listening to.

          • beezwaxing

            You gay fascists are the bullies here. You’ve proven that to the satisfaction of most here.

          • Gary Morin

            Here’s another one of your leaders or spokesmen, showing their classier side: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/stan-solomon-trayvon-martin-deserved-die-and-so-does-faggot-dan-savage. If you claim that he doesn’t speak for all heterosexuals or all kool-aid drinking Tea Parties, cut the crap about Masha Gessen speaking for all LGBT people. Use any common sense you (hopefully) have, instead of your fear or hatred for anyone that’s different than you or who thinks differently than you do.

          • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

            Gay fascists….ah the buzz words…liberals, commies….
            Look, you can’t be a fascist and a commie, they are oppostie polarities and yet the tea-baggers constantly use the two in a sentence.
            To want equality is not to be labelled either a commie or a fascists. Are you a supporter of Scott Lively because this is his wording…oh, if you are….have your read his Pink Triangle. He states that gays were responsible for starting the Nazi hatred of Jews. Many Jewish historians have contradicted Lively stating that Hitler in an edict of 1935 stated that death would come to any Nazi who was a homosexual and this was years before the holocaust. Lively who leaves violence wherever he goes (Russia) recently gave Putin a copy of this book.
            http://stories4hotbloodedlesbians. com

            We are winning and you bigots are loosing big time.

          • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

            Oh, Yes he does. You need to switch the channel from Fox News. Hatred when sewn leads to violence
            Scott Lively and Rick Warren went to Uganda to give workshops against homosexuals. A bill to “Kill Homosexuals” was introduced in parliament, then a newspaper Uganda’s Rolling Stone printed pictures and names of homosexuals and David Koto, a gay activist was murdered in his home; the police ruled out robbery.
            NOW, Scott Lively has been brought to justice for Crimes Against Humanity in a Mass. court. He tried to get off twice on “Freedom of Speech” but the judge ruled TWICE that he stand trial. I think we need to stop this liberal or conservative labelling and go for ‘equality for all,’ regardless of political beliefs. We are repeating history when 6 million Jews lost their lives. Christians can no longer use the Bible for hatred towards others. Our laws must protect minorities. The Pope has it right when he states “who am I to judge a homosexual if he/she is seeking God.” Do likewise.
            http://stories4hotbloodedlesbians.com

    • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

      Chick-fil-A has the worse food and the hygiene is something to discuss too

  • charliehall

    Nice to see Greenfield concerned about Gay Rights! I look forward to his article on Ken Cuccinelli, the Republican Attorney General in Virginia running for governor who wants to recriminalize sodomy (even when done by married persons) as a felony punishable by ten years in prison.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “Nice to see Greenfield concerned about Gay Rights!”

      “Gays” should have the same rights as all other citizens.

      “Republican Attorney General in Virginia running for governor who wants to recriminalize sodomy (even when done by married persons) as a felony punishable by ten years in prison.”

      I don’t think that’s practical. It’s not totally irrational or without precedent obviously, but it is statist for sure.

      • tagalog

        Yep, the same rights. Not rights as a class in addition to the ones everyone else gets.

    • truebearing

      That could completely ruin your hobby! The horror!

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Nice distortion of what’s going on in VA

      http://www.vachildpredators.com/

      “This case is about using current law to protect a minor girl from a 47 year-old repeat sexual predator. The law is only applied to sodomy committed against minors, against non-consenting adults, or in public. In fact, contrary to misinformation peddled by Terry McAuliffe and his liberal allies against the defenders of this law, the law is not – and cannot be – used against consenting adults acting in private.”

      • Gary Morin

        Cuccinelli has state that he doesn’t want a law narrow to just the abuse of minors – he claims the broader law will only be applied to the narrowly-defined occurrences. So, charliehall’s comments are NOT a distortion.

  • Elizabeth Cape Cod

    He has “no patience for countries that try to treat gays and lesbians and transgendered persons in ways that intimidate them or are harmful to them.”?

    How about the way they treat women? Or is his concern only about the lesbian ones?

    • Gary Morin

      So, if he doesn’t mention EVERY category of persons, it’s appropriate to condemn him? It was a specific comment to a specific issue! He didn’t mention ethnic minorities either – doesn’t mean he does have patience for that.

      • Elizabeth Cape Cod

        You’re right…kind of…My comment was incomplete. Why doesn’t obama criticize muslim countries for THEIR treatment of gays and lesbians, transgendered persons and ALL women??
        I’ve never heard him call out muslims for this. I’m not talking about terrorism, which he does condemn. I’m talking about the general treatment muslims show each other!!

  • Justin

    The curse of atheistic secular humanism is much more dangerous than the curse
    of islamo-fascism. Destroy the first, and the second will disappear.
    Justin

  • PD MacGuire

    It’s not like this is something new in Russia. Russians are wildly conservative, socially, and always have been. Even a married couple exchanging a kiss in public is going to attract some cold stares. It’s definitely wrong to give Russia crap about a law that is overwhelmingly popular there, and say nothing about the Iranians, who hang suspected homosexuals by tying a rope around their necks and hoisting them with a crane.

    • beezwaxing

      I agree. It looks to me like Putin is simply trying to suppress gay propaganda. I don’t believe he is stupid enough to try to murder millions of human beings. Stalin got away with it; Putin could never get away with it. He knows that gays aren’t going away. At the worst, he’s trying to get gays to shut up. I’ve seen worse in dictators.

      • PD MacGuire

        And to get off point, just a bit, there’s something that is NEVER talked about. In the Russian Census figures from before the Revolution, there were more than 4 million Russians of African descent; they kept almost as many black slaves as they had white serfs. What happened to all of them? There certainly aren’t any now.

        • beezwaxing

          Do you refer to the “October” Red Revolution of 1917, or the more recent “counter-revolution” (for lack of a better term) led by the late Boris Yeltsin?

      • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

        Do you call yourself a human being? Have you ever heard of the words: facts, empathy, ?

        • DB1954

          I don’t reply to statements. Questions only, and only serious questions.

  • tagalog

    I didn’t say anything about laws in Russia that deal with homosexuality.

  • texvanwinkle

    I agree completely with the point of the article, but the headline needs to be fixed. It makes it appear that the Obama quote includes the words “unless they’re Muslim countries” when it doesn’t. The actual quote ends after the ellipsis.

  • higgy01

    He was Muslim before he was gay which was before his arranged marriage. Hypocrisy is not strong enough to define this president and his administration.

    • https://www.facebook.com/garytgsr?ref=tn_tnmn Gary Gray

      you are right.. the whole thing is one big scam !

    • beezwaxing

      Actually, Obama was gay before he was married to Moochelle. His name was Hasan Chandoo, and he was Obama’s roommate at Occidental College.

    • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

      He had a double head, which was removed at the age of five. He was born under the sea and used a magician to present him in human form.
      He eats tree bark and howls at the moon.

      • DB1954

        No, actually those who bark or bay at the moon are called leftwing moonbats. You’re a perfect example.

  • AveMaria198202

    Obama disgusts me. He’s willing to spread the homosexual agenda and that is what disgusts me about him. His moral values are way out of whack.

    • Gary Morin

      What the HELL is the “homosexual agenda”? equality (no more, no less)? Because that is all it is – there is nothing insidious or secretive about any alleged “agenda”. Use your two eyes and two ears to learn before spewing garbage and propaganda.

  • K Edwards

    This is not a president but a traitor and someone who thinks hes above God, he will rot in hell

    • Nizzemancer

      You will rot in Mordor for all eternity…see? Not very frightening when you know the fairytales aren’t real, huh?

      • K Edwards

        and another uneducated liberal with his hand out speaks

        • Nizzemancer

          lol uneducated…says the man who apparently believes in fairytales created by bronze age goat herders… If only you knew what Irony is.

  • TRAV1S

    No mention of the old country Kenya, Obama.

    • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

      TRAV1S
      I presume that you are a Native American Indian?

  • K Edwards

    stupid man, very stupid and NOT American

    • Gary Morin

      birther, are you?

  • https://www.facebook.com/garytgsr?ref=tn_tnmn Gary Gray

    Obama…………The most hated man in the world !

    • DB1954

      It’s not like we wanted it this way. It’s that he has made himself that way. He is destroying lives, fortunes, families, and this nation. I don’t see Obama as evil, though he’s certainly doing much of that; I see him as mad, demented, psychologically and emotionally disordered.

    • Nizzemancer

      You’d have to be pretty damn fucking stupid to believe that…

  • mithra

    doesnt matter he supports gay people or himself is gay .. the picture above is telling the truth of the power game ,,, United States President is kissing the ass of the Arap king .. no more to say how the country is ruled .

  • AveMaria198202

    The homosexual agenda is quite simply, the movement by “LGBT rights activists” which tries to legalize “gay marriage”, adoption by homosexual couples, and other such “rights” which they do NOT have and should NOT have. All rights that we have are given to us by God and God NEVER gave them any such “rights”. Such things will not contribute to the good of society but more than likely they will contribute to the downfall of our society’s moral values.

    • beezwaxing

      I agree, but we don’t have to even get into religion. What they want is to destroy the cultural institutions of western, “capitalist,” and “patriarchal” societies such as the US and the UK. So far, they’ve succeeded, and their ultimate goal is to undermine the nuclear family. This was the dream of the Italian Marxist revolutionary, Antonio Gramsci as well as the dream of the modern day left wing of the Democrat Party and others even more radical, such as Masha Gessen, the atheist, lesbian activist who has admitted that she wants to destroy the nuclear family and marriage.

      • c0mm0ncenz

        From personal experience, I agree that there is much more to the gay agenda than obtaining their so-called rights. If marriage defined as between a man and a woman didn’t come from the Bible, where did it come from? yet they want to redefine marriage, which disses G0d. They reject anything that is pro-Biblical values and can very quickly compromise on many moral issues. I no longer trust my gay friends.

        • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

          Educate yourself and stop quoting from a Bible written when people were starting a fire by rubbing two sticks together. Here is 21st century minds – much more open than Bible bigots like yourself.

          The American Academy of Pediatrics stated in Pediatrics in 2004:“Sexual orientation probably is not determined by any one factor but by a combination of genetic, hormonal, and environmental influences. In recent decades, biologically based theories have been favored by experts. Although there continues to be controversy and uncertainty as to the genesis of the variety of human sexual orientations, there is no scientific evidence that abnormal parenting, sexual abuse, or other adverse life events influence sexual orientation. Current knowledge suggests that sexual orientation is usually established during early childhood.[3][146]”

          The American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, and National Association of Social Workers stated in 2006:“Currently, there is no scientific consensus about the specific factors that cause an individual to become heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual—including possible biological, psychological, or social effects of the parents’ sexual orientation. However, the available evidence indicates that the vast majority of lesbian and gay adults were raised by heterosexual parents and the vast majority of children raised by lesbian and gay parents eventually grow up to be heterosexual.[2]”

          The Royal College of Psychiatrists stated in 2007:“Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heterosexual or homosexual orientation. It would appear that sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment. Sexual orientation is therefore not a choice.[4]

      • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

        Shout Communist loudly….shout Marxist louder…
        scream socialism….and deny that Jesus held all in common with the disciples and was poor.
        Scream and scream until you convince yourself that the poor and not your brothers and sisters.
        Jesus told us to feed the hungry, clothe the naked.
        Read it in the Gospel of Luke.
        Shameful hyprocrits posing as Christians.
        http://stories4hotbloodedlesbians.com

        • DB1954

          To begin, I’m not screaming, but it appears you are. You have no right or authority to preach to me or to tell me what to believe. I have not nor will I read this garbage especially since you premise your lectures on the accusation that I have somehow rejected “the poor” as my “brothers.” That’s a lie and an affront to me and the Christian faith. For one thing, you don’t know me or anything about me. Moreover, I’m not even particularly religious. The idea that Jesus was a first century Marxist, socialist, or some other form of collectivist going by a new name is one of the oldest heresies known to the Christian faith. Your collectivism, especially since its apparently of the political sort, is nothing more than a maudlin and hysterical plea for a Godless materialism. We could start with the Peasants’ War in Martin Luther’s time; we could cite the Diggers in the years following the English Civil War, and no doubt, we could find some collectivist minded, self-avowed, early “Christian” who made the claim that Jesus’ earthly mission was NOTHING but a call for the “rich” to feed, clothe, or help “the poor.” That’s the false doctrine of materialism and the very essence of heresy. Materialist interpretations of Scripture have been rejected not only by the Church and its scholars through the centuries, but, if one believes that the Church is eternally protected by the 3rd person of the Trinity, by the guidance of the Holy Spirit for 20 centuries. Jesus said, “The poor you will have with you always.” What makes you think that you know better than Jesus? A touch arrogant aren’t we? You are greatly deceived, but then, Jesus predicted that too.

    • Gary Morin

      “AveMaria” (what a self-aggrandizing name!) – I have never heard such a load of crap, other than from Faux and the likes of Gingrich and Beck. You with your mean-spirited and selfish beliefs don’t deserve and should NOT have rights. What knowledge or experience do YOU have to make such claims? None, I suspect, other than hearing and believing the lies of some preacher or talk show. YOU may believe in G-d – but not everyone does or in the same narrow-minded view that you have. Children, everyday in America, go hungry, uneducated, abused, living in poverty, etc. – and are the children of heterosexuals. Every child in foster care or in need of adoption – are the children of irresponsible heterosexuals (no doubt, you’ll distance yourself – “those” are black children, urban children, children of welfare parents, etc.).

      Could you be any less educated?

      http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/historic-ruling-judge-orders-anti-gay-scott-lively-stand-trial-crimes-against-humanity150813

      • AveMaria198202

        My name means “Hail Mary” which is my way of honoring the Blessed Mother of God. As for children and others in poverty, I feel very badly for them and I do what I can, which isn’t much, to help them.

        • beezwaxing

          The poor we have with us always. Anything which suggests otherwise is simply a denial of reality.

          • AveMaria198202

            I completely agree with you.

          • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

            And you, a smug person, should know that society can make people poor. I spoke to a waitress in Georgia in Jan of this year. She earns $2.25 hr. Tell that to Mitt Romney.
            http://stories4hotbloodedlesbians.com
            The middle class were born with privilges that allows them to study and own computers; the rich have inheritied it.
            The poor struggle and are closest to God’s heart.

            “I was hungry and you did not feed me.” Jesus

          • DB1954

            You don’t know that I haven’t fed the poor do you?

          • DB1954

            And Mitt Romney, I suppose, owns this restaurant in which that waitress works for $2.25 an hour? “The middle class were born with privileges.” Is that so? You only show how pitifully ignorant you are with every statement you make. You demand I suppose that the employer pay the waitress $100 an hour? How long, do you suppose the restaurant would last if it had to pay those kinds of wages? You’ve OBVIOUSLY never worked a day in your life. Moreover, pay scales are always relative. You probably grew up in NY City, where there’s a much higher cost of living, so that waitresses have to earn much more than the one in Georgia. In any case, ObamaCare will soon put your waitress friend out of a job entirely since few small employers can now afford to hire anyone full time. Talking to you is like talking to a child. I mean, Genderless, you’re not dealing with reality. For wishful fools like you, it’s only a matter of passing another law which will raise wages to the moon. Only when we raise the minimum wage to a $1000 dollars an hour will you leftwing children begin to be satisfied that we are treating everyone “equally.” You’re CLUELESS, just like your demi-god the boy emperor, B. Hussein Obama, the first BABY to serve as President of the United States.

        • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

          Mary stood at the foot of the cross. She always honored the words of her son. He told us “Love one another.”
          He told us “Do not judge least you be judged.”
          Mary understand this and YOU are nothing like Mary!
          You are breeding hatred, Mary is a mother of comfort and hope.
          http://stories4hotbloodedlesbians.com

          • Holly Williams

            You are right that I am nothing like Mary. I could never reach the level of perfection that she is at and always has been at. However, I am not breeding hatred. And also, as much as you may wish things were different, God created human beings as male and female. Anything other than that is not normal.

    • Gary Morin

      First, prove that “God” exists and, second, prove why religion, let alone your narrowminded religion/church/cult) should dictate public policy. If you want a theocracy, join the Taliban. Oh, wait, you have, haven’t you?

      • DB1954

        1. Those who believe in (the triune) God have never offered any empirical “proof” and ADMIT that they can’t offer any empirical “proof” of the existence of God. They’ve never said that they have such proof or can offer it. They call it FAITH for that very reason. 2. I’ve already given you entirely legitimate reasons why SSM is inconsistent with the secular, foundational document on which our government and all the statutory laws are based, the U.S. Constitution. In a nutshell, it has to do with the powers of the states versus the LIMITED and enumerated powers of the Federal government. It was my opinion that any state COULD by legislation or change to its state constitution, provide for SSM. The SCOTUS went way beyond that in the recent case of U.S. v. Windsor. The majority in Windsor, in effect, ignored and therefore all but destroyed the 10th Amendment, by which the states had, for 225 years, claimed the EXCLUSIVE authority to make laws pertaining to public health, safety and morals. The HSM clause means that only states can define marriage under the 10th Amendment to the Constitution and all the federal case law prior to Windsor. For this reason, if the state of Massachusetts had wanted to create SSM, in my opinion, the legislature there could have done just that, and all would have been proper in the legal and constitutional sense. But the fact is, that the Massachusetts (supreme) Court ordered the legislature to create a law to allow SSM, and sadly, the legislature didn’t defy the court’s order because the court had no constitutional authority to order the legislature to do anything. So I therefore can’t even begin to understand why you accuse me of wanting a “theocracy” unless of course, it’s your contention that the legislature of states like Massachusetts are still filled with Puritan clerics from the 17th century who hold “puritanical” values in the year 2013. 3. How absurd can your argument get, when you accuse an American conservative of desiring the empowerment of a Taliban-like “theocracy”? First of all, the Christian religion existed for six centuries before that moon-worship cult began in the 7th century, C.E. (That means Common Era for ignorant rhetors like you). The Christian religion took those centuries as an opportunity to mature as a religion, and in fact they did. This will come as a shock and surprise to you, but it was the Church which enabled, supported, and developed a truly civilized society in Europe, and all of this was brought about by those who were the most learned in European society from the time of Constantine the Great well into the early modern times, and that was the Christian clergy. In fact, Europe emerged from the Dark Ages into the Enlightenment Age precisely because of the work of Christian scholars who were overwhelmingly priests, monks, bishops or others who were the only ones in those societies who could read and write. It was Church scholars who studied antiquity–ancient Roman and Greek societies and their literatures–from which the Renaissance emerged. The study of those ancient, pre-Christian cultures made their way west by the efforts of “Crusaders” and Christian clerics after the fall of eastern Christianity to Islam. It’s absolutely true that there were periods in which the Church took steps backwards in terms of the advancement of knowledge and civilization, one such episode being of course, the famous one of Galileo. But atheists like you are rarely aware that it was the Church, especially the monks of Ireland who kept the Faith and learning alive in the middle ages. In fact, the monasteries became the very seeds of the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. One small example is that of the Galileo persecution, so frequently cited by atheists as typical of the Church through the ages. In fact, Galileo’s case was a total aberration; this is why: Galileo raised as one of his primary defenses to the charge of heresy, that his model of the solar system, in which the sun was the center of that solar system, had originally been the work of Copernicus. Copernicus’ theories had been accepted by the Church as true since the 16th century, a point which Galileo’s inquisitors had simply forgotten. Copernicus had been the scientist-astronomer priest, who had debunked and refuted the theories of Ptolemy, to wit: that the earth was the center of the solar system and the universe. Copernicus, like most scholars of his time, was a PRIEST, and because he was, his scientific theories of the solar system and universe had been, in his time, readily and almost universally accepted by Church authorities. Galileo, in other words, cited Copernicus, a priest in his defense. In short, Galileo made fools out of his tormentors, which is one reason why they continued to persecute him. Moreover, the Church posthumously lifted its sanctions against Galileo not long after his death, and still later Popes and clerics expressed great regret for the errors of his persecutors.
        5. The U.S. is currently at war with the Taliban, the enemy of this country, and there are Americans dying in that effort as we speak. You dare to accuse me of seeking to impose Taliban like rule on America? I’m a conservative in the Thomas Jefferson tradition. I can assure you that I not only know more about Jefferson than you could ever hope to know, I also support the strictest interpretation of separation of church and state which phrase, by the way, does NOT appear in the Constitution, but rather was written by Mr. Jefferson, in a letter to the Danbury, Connecticut Baptists who inquired as to his views on religion.
        5. Can you prove that God doesn’t exist? You seem to make that claim. It’s not I who adopted a “narrow-minded religion/church/cult” or the one who wants to “dictate public policy.” It’s YOU. “Progressivism” IS a religion, and it’s every bit as intolerant, ignorant, and self-righteous as are both major branches of of the religion of Islam. Progressives, by and large, don’t believe in God, but that doesn’t mean they don’t worship a god. EVERYONE has a god, even you, your narrow-minded twerp.Everyone has a god because everyone worships or values something ultimately. In the case of atheist communists, there was only material reality, so Albert Einstein was asked if he believed in God, and he replied, “Well, I didn’t create myself.” Your arrogance is simply staggering. Who are YOU to say there is no God? Instead of asking ME to prove the existence of God, why don’t you have the burden of showing there IS no God? And while you’re at it, explain creation if you can. You obviously have an inflated opinion of your intellect, so tell us oh genius, why is there anything at all? How can there be a created order if there wasn’t or isn’t a creator? After that explain how YOU, meaning YOU IN PARTICULAR, GM, know there’s no God? You worship something just like everyone else: you might worship money, you might worship sex, indeed you, GM much like Genderless here, seem to worship either a male phallus or sensuality in general. In short, you’re a fraud who knows nothing except how to repeat the empty slogans of the currently fashionable religion of atheism. Go worship your three gods: Barack Obama, the male penis, and yourself.

    • Nizzemancer

      If marriage as it’s dictated in the bible is so ingrain in the american society then why isn’t poygamy legal? Why aren’t women forced to marry their rapists and why aren’t female POW’s considered spouses of the one who captured them? Your bible and your version of “traditional marriage” diverge quite a bit, but I guess you knew that since you (obviously haven’t) read the bible you hold so dear.

      Cherrypicking – it’s what makes religion such a great idiot-lure.

  • beezwaxing

    LOL@ “tender feelings” Look, I didn’t say that Obama has to prove that he’s not gay, whatever Thomas Harris said. But you have to read the allegations before you can shoot them down and dismiss them. Of course, you won’t read them because you’ve already made up your mind that they’re not true. Moreover, you have to read more than one. That’s because they all seem to be consistent with each other. You can start with Professor John Drew and his account of meeting Obama and Hasan Chandoo, his Pakistani roommate at Occidental College. There are at least a half a dozen more credible accounts that confirm Drew’s contention that Obama is gay.

  • beezwaxing

    Consult Masha Gessen, the lesbian activist who supports SSM, but says that gays and lesbians are lying about their motive: they know that SSM will ultimately destroy marriage. Google her on YouTube.

    • Gary Morin

      I’d never heard of her until today. So, one lesbian speaks for all LGBT people? Do you represent all heterosexuals or all bible-thumpers or all people who have decided to tell other people how to live their lives or what EQUAL rights they should or shouldn’t have? But, you know – given the crap record that marriage and American “traditional families” have, who’s to say that its time hasn’t passed?

      • beezwaxing

        I’m not religious, but you STILL haven’t seen Masha Gessen’s YouTube videos. It’s my understanding that she has appeared on Jon Stewart’s TV show. I wouldn’t know since I never watch it, but the point is you still haven’t heard what she said. Moreover, you are the one who is STILL ignorant. Have you ever even heard of Antonio Gramsci? The idea of SSM started with him as a means to subvert the cultural institutions of western, “capitalist” nations. Gramsci has been dead for decades but there’s not a Marxist in the world who is not familiar with his name since he’s the Marxist revolutionary who first introduced the concept of destroying “capitalist” and “patriarchal” institutions from within by infiltration, subversion, and semantic redefinitions. The idea of SSM started decades ago. It didn’t start with Masha Gessen. She’s just one who is honest enough admit the true goals of the gay left.

        • Gary Morin

          If this one individual is so all-knowing, all-present, shouldn’t I have heard from her? More likely, you cherry-pick your propaganda sources, find one or two exceptions to “prove” your backwards and ignorant position, and then claim that the 99% are wrong or lying? If I were a Marxist, wouldn’t I have heard of this Gramsci? So, I guess I’m not much of one. All you’ve proved is that reich-wing Murika has its head up its collective asses and should be left to play with its guns (the ONLY constitutional right any of you fight for), eat your white bread and GMO-tainted foods, and leave the earth a better place once your “rapture” takes you away.

        • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

          It is religion that is the worse enemy of gays/lesbians. They get their reason to hate from a 3,000 year old book, written at a time when people were making a fire by rubbing two sticks together.

          Science on the other hand has made it pronouncement. Psychiatrists world wide have stated that homosexuality is NOT a) a disease b) a mental illness c) a perversion and it cannot be reversed by therapy. This puts to rest that it is a choice, it is NOT. If it is not a choice, it is a natural diversity of sexuality.

          http://stories4hotbloodledlesbians.com

          • DB1954

            I think you meant to say that ” … religion is the WORST enemy of gays/lesbians.” Aside from the ignorance and fatuousness of that remark, get your superlatives right, boy, before you graduate from grade school.

      • DB1954

        Then Google Jo Duzema. She’s another “intellectual” of the left, a British professor of “women’s studies” who has been writing for years that all cultural institutions of western, “patriarchal” and “capitalist” societies must be “leveled.” She may be obscure to you, but she’s not considered so among her gay, lesbian, and radical left followers, nor is she unheard of in women’s studies departments in every university in college in the western world. Duzema openly admits she wants marriage to simply die, and the means of accomplishing that goal is SSM. Duzema didn’t get her ideas or her values out of thin air, they can all be traced back at least as far as the well-known Italian neo-Marxist theorist and revolutionary, Antonio Gramsci. Ever hear of “the long march” through the cultural institutions like universities and the like? Ever hear of “leveling cultural institutions” like the nuclear family, western religious institutions and the freedom to worship as one pleases (or not worship)? All were targets of mad-dog Gramsci’s scorn and hatred from hell itself. Duzema is part of a long and well-known tradition of neo-Marxism as was Saul Alinsky, one of Barack Obama’s most important “mentors,” by his own admission. You’re just a child spewing puerile and self-absorbed babble out of ignorance of history because you’re uneducated.

  • miamigarner

    HE JUST WANT’S SOME REVENGE.

    God also made men that weren’t created in his image.

    Deuteronomy 7:6: “For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.” The Adamic Race is to have dominion over every form of life previously created. This includes not only the four legged beasts, but the two legged as well. The Negro is an articulate member of this Beast Creation. For proof that they are beasts, and God calls them exactly that.

    Exodus 9:9: “And it shall become small dust in all the land of Egypt, and shall be a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast, throughout all the land of Egypt.”You can be sure God was not punishing four legged beasts by afflicting them with boils.

    Jeremiah 21:6: “And I will smite the inhabitants of this city, both man and beast: they shall die of a great pestilence.”

    Would God refer to a four legged beast as an inhabitant of a city?

    Jeremiah 27:6: “And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him.”

    The Negro race has always been used as servants.

    BLAME GOD DON’T BLAME THE WHITE MAN

    • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

      All written at the time that starting a fire required the rubbing of two sticks together. Do you have medical problems attended to by a physician who practises medicine in these times (3,500 years ago)?

    • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

      Why are you quoting from words written 3,500 years ago when fire could only be started by rubbing two sticks together. Come into the year of Jesus when he told everyone:
      a) don’t judge one another b ) love one another

      stories4hotbloodedlesbians.com

    • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

      “DO NOT JUDGE,” (JESUS)

  • Gary Morin

    so, if gay people come out, they’re criticized, condemned, harassed or worse; But, if they don’t come out, they condemned for lying. You can’t have your prejudice and discrimination both ways.

    • Hard Boiled

      Actually you can, and this is why people have a problem accepting the gay community most of you are tricking people. telling people you love them of the opposite sex, having children with them, then wrecking their lives for a gay lover. sorry, that doesn’t make you endearing. if you cant be straight up, then you dont deserve my trust, my love, or my vote. you dont like it then boo hoo, and get a life. i have a say who i vote for, and you cant force me to like something i dont, or that doesn’t represent my life or morals. then not only are you as bad as me, you’re worse. if being gay is so wonderful, there would be no need to hide and lie about it. too bad they have to monitor the site so that only leftie arguments get posted. i didn’t say anything wrong, but told the truth.

      • Gary Morin

        if families didn’t reject people and bosses didn’t fire people, most people probably would come out. i’ve never lied in all my life about it. why should i. i’ve experienced discrimination based on it, fought it, and lost (yes, I admit that government EEO programs are full of crap and are owned and operated by one group for their own; they couldn’t care less about people who are disabled or LGBT).

        You may have stated YOUR truth, just as I’ve stated my truth. Your alleging that what you speak is THE truth is simply arrogant and presumptuous. What have I done to trick anyone? If you want to judge me based on your stereotype of all gay people in the “gay community”, touch shit and boo hoo to you. If that’s teh case, I’ll judge you based on all single-wide-trailer, inbred NRA nut yahoos. Don’t want me to stereotype? Have a spine and a pair of balls to not stereotype and pre-judge me.

        As for gay men who marry women and, to make it worse, have children – that is messed up. Worse, too, when they know deep down that they are gay from the beginning. I’m sure there are some who think they’ll ‘become straight’ once married (ha!) or do it because of the pressure from their fundamentalist religious families. It is screwed up. I don’t approve or support such behaviour – I do understand it (which does not mean that I support or condone it).

      • DB1954

        I personally know a woman who was deceived by a gay man. What she endured was something NO ONE should ever have to endure. She was CRUSHED, and not only was her husband gay, but he told her that it made him sick to his stomach every time they had ever had sex. Imagine a woman who hears something like that. My God. I can’t even imagine the pain she felt.

  • beezwaxing

    The homosexual agenda: SSM which will inevitably lead to the breakdown in the constitutional authority the states hold exclusively over the definition of marriage. Polygamy and / or other forms of “marriage” will inevitably result which in turn will result in fewer and fewer Americans getting married since the term and the institution will have no more meaning. Once marriage is destroyed, the nuclear family is next. The left hated Sarah Palin because they regard her as a “breeder.” “Breeders” are something the left, and particularly, the gay left, despises. Leftism is the road to cultural, national, and social suicide. The lemmings continue to deconstruct America.

  • Hard Boiled

    a bisexual person still does not and cannot represent a straight person. our values and morals do not match. then we would be tricked into giving them our trust, and that is not right. either you are truthful, or you know what you are doing is WRONG.

    • beezwaxing

      In my view, Obama’s greater offense is in lying about himself, and not just to us, but to his children.

  • chris

    for two that just left messages you keep you mouth shut. Every state will be legal and for those country if they don’t wont them there. Let
    them leave and live here

    • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

      The American Academy of Pediatrics stated in Pediatrics in 2004:“Sexual orientation probably is not determined by any one factor but by a combination of genetic, hormonal, and environmental influences. In recent decades, biologically based theories have been favored by experts. Although there continues to be controversy and uncertainty as to the genesis of the variety of human sexual orientations, there is no scientific evidence that abnormal parenting, sexual abuse, or other adverse life events influence sexual orientation. Current knowledge suggests that sexual orientation is usually established during early childhood.[3][146]”

      The American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, and National Association of Social Workers stated in 2006:“Currently, there is no scientific consensus about the specific factors that cause an individual to become heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual—including possible biological, psychological, or social effects of the parents’ sexual orientation. However, the available evidence indicates that the vast majority of lesbian and gay adults were raised by heterosexual parents and the vast majority of children raised by lesbian and gay parents eventually grow up to be heterosexual.[2]”

      The Royal College of Psychiatrists stated in 2007:“Despite almost a century of psychoanalytic and psychological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heterosexual or homosexual orientation. It would appear that sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment. Sexual orientation is therefore not a choice.[4]

      • DB1954

        I agree that homosexual orientation is not a choice. Nevertheless, if one reads your sources carefully, what they actually say is that NO ONE FACTOR has ever been identified as the cause of homosexual orientation and this includes genetic factors. In 1973, the AMA “de-medicalized” homosexuality when they took it off the list of mental disorders of the then current edition of the DSM. They did so in the wake of political pressure placed on them from a number of homosexual activist groups. Now homosexual activist groups are insisting that homosexuality has a purely genetic origin, notwithstanding the fact that not a shred of medical evidence from any branch of medicine has ever even remotely suggested that genetics plays any role at all in the origin of homosexual orientation. If it is true that homosexuality has a purely genetic origin, then what homosexual activists are asking is that medical science “re-medicalize” homosexuality. In other words, there presumably exists some gene or set of genes or a defect of a gene or set of genes which, if medical science can someday isolate said genes or scientifically demonstrate the way in which said genes become defective, then medical science can presumably “cure” homosexuality either by some vaccine, or gene therapy given to potential parents of homosexuals. The fact is that Terry S. Stein, M.D., professor of psychiatry, (now at Michigan State University, I believe) wrote a peer-reviewed paper on the subject of homosexuality in which he state that “there is no gay gene,” and that there simply is no evidence whatsoever that genetics is the cause of or even the primary cause of homosexual orientation; that homosexuality is far too complex a phenomenon for medical science to ever be able to point to any one cause or major cause of homosexual orientation or even heterosexual orientation. Dr. Stein is a recognized authority on homosexuality. Last point, even if it were proven that homosexuality has an entirely genetic origin, homosexual BEHAVIOR does not and by definition, never can.

        • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

          You wrote something about how do I know if you feed the poor – I don’t! And I would not judge you if you did not!

          “The poor will always be with you,” said Jesus. He was probably sighing and knowing that with humans and their lack of love, there would always be poor!!!!

          He did not say that we should do nothing about it.
          He said, “Feed the hungry; clothe the naked, visit the prisoners.” and of course, “Do not judge one another” and “love one another.”

          http://stories4hotbloodedlesbians.com

  • ConcreteCowboy1

    To all the people supporting homo-sexuality here. I have only one thing to say to them. Your behavior is not a reflection on me. It is a reflection on that person committing the behavior in question. Do as you wish, as long as it doesn’t affect others, I don’t really care about YOUR actions. I try not to judge others’ actions. You may however want to consider your own actions before the day of God’s judgment. If I am wrong, it is nothing. If you are wrong, it’s to the Lake Of Fire with you………Eternity means forever.

    • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

      It is religion that is the worse enemy of gays/lesbians. They get their reason to hate from a 3,000 year old book, written at a time when people were making a fire by rubbing two sticks together.
      Science on the other hand has made it pronouncement. Psychiatrists world wide have stated that homosexuality is NOT a) a disease b) a mental illness c) a perversion and it cannot be reversed by therapy. This puts to rest that it is a choice, it is NOT. If it is not a choice, it is a natural diversity of sexuality.
      http://stories4hotbloodledlesbians.com

  • Gary Morin

    c0mm0ncenz – first, love the use of zeros in your name, as in No common sense. Second, so where is that peer-reviewed, factual research of yours published? Third, if ignorant people like you stopped being crappy parents to LGBT youth, they wouldn’t grow up thinking that they had to lie in order to be approved of and loved by their parents.

    • beezwaxing

      GM, I already gave you factual reference sources. You simply reject them all as non-factual.

  • beezwaxing

    What lies? Again, GM, you fail to specify. I can’t respond to allegations without specificity. No one can.

  • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

    The gay agenda is to a) dance and hug grumpy people

    b) to spread love and not hatred world-wide c) to accept and not judge people. The gay agenda is to spread the good news

    The religious agenda: to hate; to quote evidence from 5,000 years ago when people lived in tents. To hate in the name of religion.

    It is religion that is the worse enemy of gays/lesbians. They get their reason to hate from a 3,000 year old book, written at a time when people were making a fire by rubbing two sticks together.

    Science on the other hand has made it pronouncement. Psychiatrists world wide have stated that homosexuality is NOT a) a disease b) a mental illness c) a perversion and it cannot be reversed by therapy. This puts to rest that it is a choice, it is NOT. If it is not a choice, it is a natural diversity of sexuality.

    http://stories4hotbloodledlesbians.com

    • DB1954

      Genderless, you’ve made your point already: we KNOW you believe in fairy tales. In fact, we know you believe in goblins, elves, and magic. Don’t you think it’s time to sober up? Run along and let the adults discuss reality.

      • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

        I accidently stumbled onto this stupid website full of germs and lunatics that still believe the earth is flat.
        I believe in love and I believe in equality. I have no intention of replying to one more right wing idiot.
        Your reality is formed from ignorance and lies.
        So long and goodbye
        stories4hotbloodedlesbians.c om

      • Nizzemancer

        I like how you call it pagan fairy tales but then think christian gospel isn’t…Make up your mind, do you believe in fairy tales or don’t you? you can’t have it both ways.

        • DB1954

          dizzemancer, and you KNOW that I’m a “Christian” how exactly? I might be just a non-religious but conservative American or Jewish. Hmm???

          • Nizzemancer

            Well for one you were awfully defensive in regards to christianity. And normaly right wing opinions in the US is closely intertwined with christianity. I made a logical assumption sort of how you KNOW that genderless and I are Americans for no reason. Except I am not, I simply stumbled onto a website full of discussion and decided to take part.

            As for christian values and cultural traditions, well…they’re nothing to strive for when you give it more than a shallow glance and they’re built on the corpses of cultures it has systematically erradicated through force and coercion.

            This is all I’m going to say in the matter, I was done here a week ago, but apparently I still get updates from disqus that someone’s replied and curiosity got the better of me, a mistake I won’t repeat. See you never.

  • DB1954

    Who said that EVERYONE is gay?

  • DB1954

    You have all those excuses down pat don’t you?

  • DB1954

    Google Masha Gessen, the lesbian activist for a fine example of the homosexual agenda. Even so, I admit it is better to speak of a “gay-left agenda,” since not all gays or lesbians support it. Essentially, using the rubric of “equality” they seek to flatten and level all hitherto existing cultural institutions and values because the gay/lesbian left deems them outmoded “hierarchies of privilege.” Their true intention isn’t equality; it’s about suicide and self-destruction. The homosexual and lesbian destroy themselves by their behavior. They gay left seeks to extend the self-destruction to all those around them because so many have been politically indoctrinated to believe that the mainstream of society “hates’ them. The truth is that the mainstream never hated them. With the rise of the far left in American politics–the triumph of the stealth Marxists like Obama–gays and lesbians project their hate onto us in the form of ever more fatuous claims of victimhood at the hands of a phantom “religious” majority. We are now witnessing the murder of a nation, in part, with the help of a fascistic, domestic sexual minority.

    • Gary Morin

      If gays are such a small percentage of the population, how do they have such huge control and influence, as you allege?

      Your paranoia and delusional state of mental health is
      showing. Until roughly a month ago, almost no one had ever heard of “Masha Gessen” and only now have we heard of her because of fascist readers like yourself of publications such as Front Page and the National Review. Hopefully you have decent health insurance that will cover mental health treatment.

      If this one individual that you’ve all jumped on represents all gay and lesbian people, then Scott Lively represents all heterosexuals, and he’s beyond pathetic douchebag http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/1-lively-god-says-homosexuality-is-extreme-rebellion-audio/news/2013/09/23/75571

      You’re living proof that fascism is alive and well in the
      US, cloaked in flags and carrying crosses. You and your kind are no better than the Nazis who chose to blamed/ scapegoated Jews and other minorities as a means of distracting all responsibility from yourselves. You can fabricate lies and fables all you like – but you’ve yet to show one shred of evidence that gay and lesbian people are

      If a heterosexual marriage sucks, whose fault is that? Not some same-sex couple – just the husband’s and the wife’s, yours and your spouse’s, if anyone would have you. Given the rate of heterosexual divorce and separation, the rates of spousal and child abuse (e.g., neglect, physical, verbal, sexual, etc.), you don’t make a very good case of preserving your McCarthy-era ‘traditional values’.
      Gays and lesbians couldn’t care less about your sorry and pathetic little domestic bliss and aren’t conspiring with some ‘Marxist plot’ to take over America or the world. We just don’t like ugly Archie Bunker and Al Bundy-like assholes like yourselves interferring with our lives. Clean up your own house before trying to stick your nose into anyone else’s.

      • DB1954

        GM, your obsession with the fascist movement of the prior century, circa 1920 to 1945 is showing, as is your histrionic personality disorder. Delusional? What’s more delusional than someone who thinks that he lives in Nazi Germany in 1938, who believes that there are uniformed “fascists” lurking behind every orderly and well-behaved middle class demonstration against bloated and corrupt government? What’s more delusional than the slurs and smears of jack-booted neo-Stalinists like you and your mentally ill President–the one you worship like a demi-god? GM, you represent all that is despicable and vile in this Brave New World you and the gay left fascists have created. You and your long-ago discredited ideology reek with the nauseating stench of a thousand sewers of filth and leftist lies. It’s not my fault you don’t know who Masha Gessen is. She’s been on television shows, and she’s all over YouTube. What am I, her publicity agent? Go and watch her videos like everyone else. At least Gessen, the lesbian, tells the truth about gay-left perfidy against this nation and humanity. By the way, it’s quite obvious that you hate her too, probably because, like so many homosexuals, you despise women–even lesbians like Gessen–but now she has given you even more reason to hate her. No doubt you have already spread the word among your venomous, murderous colleagues and targeted her for elimination from the Obama-Soros controlled media if not for murder. And speaking of murder, in November and December, 2007, two gay men, who had been members of the infamous Trinity United Church of Christ, were found murdered by gunshot. One was Donald Young, the choirmaster at TUCC, and both were long time personal acquaintances of Barack Obama. Chicago police said that both men were found shot to death, one in November that year, the second a month later in December. Neither case was ever solved, and both were placed in the cold case files of the Chicago police. The mother of one of these victims said that she believes her son’s murder has something to do with the Presidential candidacy of Barack Obama because Obama launched his campaign about that time. No one has alleged that Obama is involved as a principal to murder, but given that many people believe that Obama had a sexual relationship with Donald Young, it’s not unreasonable to suspect that someone murdered both men to silence them in regard to Barack Obama’s alleged homosexuality or bisexuality. Suspicion has fallen on Obama’s former pastor, “the Reverend’ J. Wright. In any case, you go right on and keep up the smear and slander campaign against all those phantom “right-wingers.” Your lies about us are tantamount to nothing short of a new McCarthyism, the McCarthyism of the Left. You had damn well be careful of all your left wing friends because THIS is the kind you run with, these are the kind you support, and it’s their lies, slanders, and murders you ignore and defend. Read here why and how YOU LIE: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/why-conservatives-say-no/comment-page-1/

        • Nizzemancer

          He wasn’t obsessing about anything he was making an accurate observation and paralell with your statement as expressed by you in the above post, funny how you call him a stalinist considering that he’s not given you any information about his political views while you’ve clearly shown yours…dumbass.

  • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

    Oh, my…you were shocked at someone’s life..shocked because it doesn’t reflect your own… There are enough stats around that state children are only affected by a lack of love in their homes. But, do pick out ONE example and then generalize. You’re a twit! Right winger tea-bagger who thinks that the poor are an inconvenience; and that only a man and woman can commit and love one another.
    Get your head out of the sand and join the world communituy. http://stories4hotbloodedlesbians. com

  • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

    Since these are allegations, why are you mentioning them?

  • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

    Bush killed innocent Iraqis when he invaded and did not wait for proof from the UN. There were never weapons of mass destruction. Now, GOP and tea-baggers want to take away medical help to millions of Americans.
    Shame on you! This is so against the Gospel of Jesus.

  • GENDER-LESS-IN-THE-SPIRIT

    Well done! Gary you can’t argue with these bigots. You give them facts like how psychiatrists world-wide state that homosexuality is not a disease, mental illness or perversion and that it can’t be changed. They come back with “you have all the excuses,:” or the Bible states this.
    They would rather take a 4,000 year old man written text when people lived in tents/caves then look at medical knowledge. Yet, they will rush to this medical knowledge and avail of it if they have cancer (or deny it to the poorer of society) All the time, they are shouting about how they love Jesus. When you state Jesus told us to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, they come back with another of his words, “the poor are always with us.” By that they interpret Jesus as saying, “forget about the poor”. Jesus knew the callousness of people regarding the poor and that it would exist long after he left the earth. Every time I mention the Good Samaritan, NOT ONE of these “Christians” have written back. Jesus picked the most outcast of society and made the Samaritan the hero.
    These pharisees today don’t want to look at this Parable, because they know they are the priests that passed by the despised Samaritans, but now it’s the gays, they are judging and defying Jesus’ statement, “Do not judge.”
    I’d be shaking in my Biblical boots if I claim I love Jesus, and then judge gays. Then there DB who know ONE person whose husband was gay and his wife was crushed and so this is supposed to represent the millions of gay men. DB I know many, many heterosexual men and women who cheat on their spouses and I’m not judging one of them. In fact, Gary and a few others who are gay and lesbian have not attacked one person for being heterosexual, inspite of the fact that there is a 50% divorce rate in American and Jesus did speak about the sin of divorce. What I do find is Beezwax and DB never comment on the Good Samaritan Story, but they throw in another topic to steer readers away. Now, you two, discuss the Good Samaritan Story for the readers here.
    And discuss why you are judging others and not loving everyone. These are commandments of Jesus.
    Why are you two acting this way? Are you Christians?
    http://stories4hotbloodedlesbians. com
    And DB stop correcting my grammar, I’m rushing this off…just answer these questions. Stop deflecting.