Obama’s China Bluff


obrtNorth Korea’s dictator is executing family members and ex-girlfriends at a speed that would give even Stalin pause. Meanwhile the People’s Republic of China has decided to follow in the footsteps of the Empire of Japan while the pacifistic modern Japan and an uncertain South Korea look to America for aid.

Obama’s amazing Asian pivot has now run smack dab into China’s infinitely expanding territorial claims. And it’s hard to think of a worse totem animal for defying the dragon than the yellow-bellied jackass.

China is out to kick foreign powers out of Asia and lay claim to any nautical territory that it wants; especially if its waters are enriched by oil. Like the Empire of Japan, the People’s Republic is hungry for oil and obsessed with the strategic weaknesses of building an empire while beset by resource problems.

The PRC’s oil tends to be coastal which makes it too easy for a foreign power to break its economy. And like a great city, it has no hope of being self-sufficient when too many of its vital resources have to be imported from across the water. The only way to protect its economic lifeblood is with naval power.

The next stage of China becoming a great power depends on it pushing the United States out of Asia and forcing Japan, South Korea and the Philippines, not to mention other American allies, to make their peace with its new empire. It can’t allow former Communist allies like Vietnam to balance out its power by allying with the United States which is why given a choice between the homicidal lunacy of Kim Jong-un and the double-dealing Vietnamese eager to bring back the Yanks, the People’s Republic will go on supporting North Korea. North Korea may be run by mad dogs, but it won’t be seduced by the West.

North Korea is to Japan what Iran is to Israel. Quite a few Japanese have moved to the United States because they expected that, long before Fukushima, the pint-sized dictator would turn their country into a radioactive wasteland.

Bill Clinton sold out Japan by letting North Korea go nuclear. If the Israelis had been paying more attention, they would have realized the implications of that move. If the United States could screw allies like Japan and South Korea, who don’t have entire Muslim lobbies grinding away at them in the United Nations and the State Department, it was obviously going to screw Israel on Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

South Korea and Japan are still hoping that Uncle Sam will do his job by showing the flag. And that’s what the Asia pivot really amounts to. Obama is hoping to play a cut-rate JFK with one General Secretary of the Communist Party, Xi Jinping, standing in for another General Secretary of the Communist Party, Nikita Khrushchev.

But China isn’t the USSR. It’s not struggling to consolidate its gains; it needs to seize them first. The PRC isn’t Khrushchev’s USSR, trying to figure out how to build houses that won’t fall down. It’s Stalin’s USSR dreaming of an empire that will stretch from the Bering Sea to the English Channel with the appropriate regional territorial substitutions.

Xi Jinping isn’t Khrushchev; a blustering coward who was better at shooting starving peasants and fooling Western leaders than at standing his ground. And China has less to worry about than he did. Unlike Khrushchev it doesn’t have to worry about a nuclear war or fear that American tank divisions will plow through its conquered territories and smash the rotten mass of military forces protecting them.

Finally, Obama is no JFK. Obama isn’t even Carter. And after having gotten through being humiliated by everyone from Iran to Russia while selling out every ally in Europe and the Middle East who was at all vulnerable to his brand of progressive political treachery, his backbone, which bends unnaturally when in the vicinity of an enemy of the United States, has less credibility than his health care plan promises.

The only way for Obama to salvage even a modicum of success from his pivot to an Asian bluff is by convincing the People’s Republic of China that he is unpredictable and dangerous and that provoking him might have unintended consequences. But that will be a hard sell in Beijing since the only nations he is a proven danger to are the allies depending on him and he is as predictably wobbly as his red lines are.

China’s recent crackdown on its Uyghur Muslim population may have angered Obama enough so that the next time he bows to the General Secretary of the Communist Party his nose will pause short of a 45° degree angle to the floor. But that won’t help Japan, South Korea or the American sailors playing chicken with Chinese warships in the expectation that the men in Washington who ordered them to stand firm, will stand behind them if anything goes wrong; instead of washing their hands of the crisis.

The People’s Republic of China knows that it faces America at its weakest. If it can force a crisis that will lead to an American withdrawal from Asia and the recognition of its unilateral authority, it stops being a world power in name only and that dismal honor instead passes to the United States of America.

The Asia pivot is becoming a very dangerous game. That’s how war games are. But it’s a game that we are going to have to play sooner or later or allow Asia to go the way of Eastern Europe in the forties.

China is Communist in name only. But that doesn’t mean that we can ignore it. Obama has ceded American influence everywhere else while clinging to the Asia pivot. He has let Russia push its influence deeper into its old Warsaw Pact territories and let Iran have a blank check on terrorizing the Middle East. The tyrannies of the left have been given a free hand in South America as Obama has pressed the flesh with Raul Castro and Hugo Chavez and taken Argentina’s side against the United Kingdom.

Asia is the last card in the deck of American influence. South America, Eastern Europe and the Middle East are gone. With the dealer glowering at him, Obama is bluffing China with his Asia pivot, but if China calls his bluff, then the last card will have been played. And it will be up to the weakest man to ever sit in the Concorde Presidential Office Chair to decide whether to go all-in on Asia… or once again to fold.

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  • camp7

    Once a traitor, always a traitor. China will rally because of it. Not that the psychosomatically confused prez necessarily likes communist China, it’s just that he hates this country even more. Pffft..

    • objectivefactsmatter

      He’s a globalist. How can a guy raised by communists from multiple continents be anything else?

  • Texas Patriot

    There is a natural and much overdue realignment taking place in foreign affairs, and it’s probably not a moment too soon. Russia and China are consolidating their power in the East, and America is consolidating her power in the West, and it’s all for the good. Russia and America have more than enough oil and gas to survive without the Middle East, and it’s only natural that China wants the same opportunity for energy independence. It’s perfectly rational that the three great powers would want to reorganize their economic and military capacities according to regional hegemonies, and that is exactly what appears to be happening.

    • truebearing

      The military and economic forces of the world don’t move according to the isolationist theories of Ron Paul or Libertarianism. You can’t think one-dimensionally when you analyze a complex, exigent situation where the US will lose all international credibility if Obama fails the test. We have long standing treaties, and important economic relations that deserve more consideration than making a crude guesstimate on who has enough gas or oil to justify curling up in the fetal position and pretending everything is going to be OK.

      • Texas Patriot

        As the circumstances of the world change, long-standing treaties must give way to the strategic necessity of survival. The only duty of loyalty that is inviolate is the one owed to the American people by their elected representatives, and it is qute clear that both of the major political parties have been in breach of that duty for a long, long time. As a result of misplaced and misguided loyalties and policies that have nothing to do with the best interests of the American people, we’ve played the role of bumbling and idiotic world policeman for long enough. It’s time to start taking care of business here at home and in our own back yard.

        • Drakken

          You really don’t understand the REAL world do you? I hate to break up your kumbaya praise Obummer session, but your hero Obummer by his cowardice in the face of aggression will make war inevitable and here you are cheering for Obummer to make it so.

          • Texas Patriot

            Drakken: “You really don’t understand the REAL world do you?”

            I understand the real world, and I understand your world, but they’re not the same. Here’s a hint. The Cold War is over, and we lost. China and Russia have emerged vastly stronger, and we have emerged vastly weaker. Do you call that a victory? If so, in what sense?

            Our schools are now the most expensive and the most ineffective in the world. Why? Because they now teach something much closer to Marxist theory than anything resembling All-American values of free market competition and human rights. Do you call that a victory? If so, why?

            Our citizens are now the most sedentary and obese of any major industrialized nation, and our health care costs per capita are almost twice as high as any other nation. Do you call that a victory? If so, how?

            We have lost millions upon millions of jobs and even entire industries to foreign competition, and the jobs now being created in America are low-paying jobs that are hardly enough to survive on. Do you call that victory? If so, how?

            We’ve gone from being the largest creditor nation in the world to the largest debtor nation in the world, and our national debt is $17 trillion and rising fast. Do you call that victory? If so, how?

            Wake up, mister. A real war is on the horizon and we’ve never been so unprepared in the history of the United States.

          • Drakken

            The weak will perish, the strong will survive, as it has always been. Might always makes right in the end and the left doesn’t understand that kumbaya is no substitute for speaking softly and carry a howitzer.

          • Texas Patriot

            Drakken: “The weak will perish, the strong will survive, as it has always been. “

            That’s my point exactly. And nothing makes a nation more weak than wasting “blood and treasure” fighting the wrong enemy.

          • Drakken

            The enemy is already amongst us.

          • Texas Patriot

            Right you are. And why? Because we have taken the bait and sent hundreds of thousands of men around the world on fool’s missions to waste precious American “blood and treasure” in the bottomless pits of middle eastern deserts and the impenetrable jungles of Southeast Asia. You call that smart? If you bought into any of those policies, you’re not really the tough guy you think you are.

          • Drakken

            Smart to deploy yes, not smart not to give them total war.

          • Texas Patriot

            Drakken: “Smart to deploy yes, not smart not to give them total war.”

            We should never deploy unless (a) our vital interests are directly threatened and (b) we are prepared to totally destroy our enemy as quickly as possible and by any means necessary. Both of those conditions have to be met, or any deployment is deeply flawed.

          • Drakken

            I do agree with a lot of what you have to say, but your putting the cart before the horse, wherever Americans are, that is our vital interest, we cannot roll back to fortress America and hunker down, in todays world that is completely impossible. Having forward operating bases gives us the ability to reach out and touch someone, so better to keep them than to have to start over from scratch to regain what we once had.

          • Texas Patriot

            Drakken: ” Having forward operating bases gives us the ability to reach out and touch someone, so better to keep them than to have to start over from scratch to regain what we once had.”

            The concept of “forward deployment” no longer makes any sense, if it ever did. The logic of warfare changed forever on August 6, 1945, and there is no going back. There is no land army in the world that cannot be effectively neutralized by a nice bracket of tactical nuclear weapons, and that’s what we will be looking at in the future.

            Much better to bring our armies home and station them on our Southern border where they can actually do some good. With modern night vision, surveillance and interdiction technologies, they’ll be able to see and stop anything that moves, and that will go a long way to solving the problem of illegal immigration without building a wall or a fence or anything else.

            As far as being able to “reach out and touch someone”, what we need is a sophisticated Special Ops force that can deploy anywhere in the world on 24 hours notice, complete with C-130s, cruise missiles, and tactical nuclear warheads. Just as a few SEAL spotters directing fire against the entrenched Taliban positions in Northern Afghanistan completely destroyed all resistance, a few spotters directing the placement of tactical nuclear warheads can destroy a million man army within hours.

            It’s a new day out there, and if we want to win, we need to get ready.

          • Drakken

            Just when you think you don’t need standing armies anymore, that is when you need them the most. The use of nukes opens a Pandora’s box of horrors that no one so far is willing to open, if that day comes, welcome to Armageddon.

          • Texas Patriot

            Drakken: ” The use of nukes opens a Pandora’s box of horrors that no one so far is willing to open…”

            That day is here, and it’s been here for a long time. But most people are too afraid to face it. Unfortunately, the luxury of denial is something we can no longer afford. Now that N. Korea, Pakistan, and Iran are joining the nuclear club, your land armies won’t stand a chance, and I hope you know that. Either we are willing to use our nuclear weaponry in a responsible way to interdict and destroy clear and present threats to the United States of America, or we might as well forget the whole thing.

            Drakken: “… if that day comes, welcome to Armageddon.”

            Armageddon is a Biblical concept and has nothing to do with tactical nuclear warfare. The Russians and the Chinese are just as hip to this as we are. They don’t want to destroy us anymore than we want to destroy them. Against rational nation-states, the concept of MAD still works and works well. But against suicidal rogue nations and terrorist groups that don’t want to live anyway, tactical nuclear weaponry can be a very effective solution. Wake up, my friend. WWIII is here, and there is no way we’re going to get through it without nuclear weapons.

          • Drakken

            Here let me help you out with this nuke dilemma your in, the US or any other nation for that matter is not going to use nukes unless someone uses one first period, end of story. If a rogue state or region uses a nuke, that nation or region will be a lifeless sheet of glass for a thousand years.

          • Texas Patriot

            Drakken: “If a rogue state or region uses a nuke, that nation or region will be a lifeless sheet of glass for a thousand years.”

            Now you’re sounding like Hillary Clinton. That was exactly her argument about Iran in the 2008 election. The truth is that we don’t need to absorb a first strike nuclear attack if we defang the wolves before they attack, and in that regard, Russia and China will be totally on board with us.

          • Drakken

            Iran might be able to deploy 1 nuke, if they do, God himself won’t stop our wrath and Comrade Obummer won’t survive a day after that happens. Hate to break it to you, but the US will not use a 1st strike nuke as a matter of policy.

          • Texas Patriot

            Drakken: “Hate to break it to you, but the US will not use a 1st strike nuke as a matter of policy.”

            I hate to break it to you, but your tough guy mask has slipped and you’re looking a bit vulnerable. Here’s the deal. If we let our enemies know that we would never use our best weapons even if it meant saving our own nation, I think that is a monstrous mistake. We should always be ready to use our best weapons whenever the particular circumstances require it. If we let the other guy know we won’t use our best weapons, that basically gives them a free ride to attack us first, and as we all know, a well-placed first strike with nuclear weapons could be could be disastrous for any nation in the world today.

            Personally I favor interdictive strikes to destroy the nuclear weapons capacity of rogue states with whatever force is necessary, including tactical nuclear weapons designed to penetrate and destroy deeply buried launch sites and development facilities. Letting rogue states such as Iran and N. Korea develop nuclear weapons is the height of irresponsibility, and nothing comes close to it. All the talk about “retreating” against China or Russia doesn’t amount to a hill of beans compared with grotesque breach of duty represented by the failure to prevent rogue states develop nuclear weapons.

            The really dangerous phenomenon we face today is that nation-states will supply nuclear weapons to terrorists who will then smuggle them into the United States and other Western nations and then detonate them remotely at their convenience. And if you are really as “far ahead” of everyone on this issue as you say you are, you will know exactly what I’m talking about. But then again, you’re probably a guy who just likes to talk tough.

          • Texas Patriot

            Drakken: “[T]he US or any other nation for that matter is not going to use nukes unless someone uses one first period, end of story.”

            Refusing to use your best weapon to neutralize an immediate threat to your nation’s survival is like saying that the lives of your soldiers are worthless and, ultimately, that the survival of your nation is worthless. There is no greater betrayal and no greater crime.

          • Drakken

            The reason you have FOB’s is logistics, logistics, logistics. You cannot solve every military problem with a spec op solution, the SOC community is a scalpel, not a chainsaw, that is what a regular unit is for. You need regular troops to hold ground and keep it. Sorry to burst your bubble, but no one is going to use nukes unless they got a death wish.

          • Texas Patriot

            Drakken: “You need regular troops to hold ground and keep it.”

            I’m surprised at you. I thought I was talking with a modern military man. You’re thinking in 19th or 18th or even 17th century terms now. It’s a new world out there. We don’t need to “hold” or “keep” any ground except our own. And we’ll be doing very well if we can do that. Even Napoleon knew better than to drag along an immobile land army into land that was strategically unnecessary to France. The British Redcoats tried to “occupy” America, and look where that got them. Hit and run is the only way to deal with hotspots around the world, and we can do that quite effectively and efficiently with the approach I have outlined above. The future is here, and there is no turning back. We need to adapt to the reality we face, or forget the whole thing.

            Drakken: “Sorry to burst your bubble, but no one is going to use nukes unless they got a death wish.”

            Russia and China don’t have a death wish, and neither do we. But the some of the rogue nations and virtually all of the terrorist groups of the world would very much like to martyr themselves for their cause, and if they have nuclear weapons, there is no question that they will use them. But the truth is that properly designed tactical nuclear warheads are the only way we are going to be able to “reach out and touch someone” anywhere in the world without exposing our own troops to unnecessary risk and incurring unnecessary expense. I hope that doesn’t burst your bubble too much.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            It’s not the wars we choose but the tactics that hurt us. When did that start to happen?

          • Texas Patriot

            OFM: “It’s not the wars we choose but the tactics that hurt us.”

            It’s a combination of the two. We should never get into a war unless our vital national interests are directly threatened. Not remotely threatened, but directly threatened. We can’t control the global balance of power. That is something that is constantly changing and is beyond the power of anyone to control. All we can do is to make sure we remain strong at home and defend ourselves and our close allies when need be. However, when the very survival of our nation or our close allies is directly threatened, then we should destroy any adversary as quickly and efficiently as possible with a minimum loss of American blood and treasure by any means necessary, including nuclear weapons. Teddy Roosevelt said we should speak softly and carry a big stick. We have a big stick, but we haven’t used it. Instead we’ve been talking very loudly and wasting enormous amounts of precious American blood and treasure for nothing, even as we have allowed our own industrial base to weaken and deteriorate.

            OFM: “When did that start to happen?”

            Korea was the first war we should never have gotten involved in. Not only were our vital national interests not directly threatened, but it was a war far from home on unfamiliar terrain and all the cards were stacked against us. Sure, we could have nuked N. Korea and China and everyone else in sight, but to what end? As a result we wasted enormous amounts of American blood and treasure, and left N. Korea standing to fight another day. Unfortunately, N. Korea is still standing, and now it really is a problem.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “We should never get into a war unless our vital national interests are directly threatened. Not remotely threatened, but directly threatened.”

            Certainly anyone would agree with that but it’s always debatable when that occurs.

            “We can’t control the global balance of power.”

            We kind of can, but there are certainly more ways to fail than to succeed. Starting with how you specifically define the objectives. We don’t want to “control” anything for the sake of control. That’s what NATO is about for one thing. That’s why we have alliances. And we need to be loyal to those alliances. Keeping our word will never hurt us, but getting sidetracked by bizarre delusional objectives often will.

            “All we can do is to make sure we remain strong at home and defend ourselves and our close allies when need be.”

            That’s one definition of controlling the global balance of power.

            “Korea was the first war we should never have gotten involved in. Not only were our vital national interests not directly threatened, but it was a war far from home on unfamiliar terrain and all the cards were stacked against us.”

            That’s debatable. The problem is that we got duped. So you can say it never should have happened but it didn’t drop out of the sky so to speak. It’s also very easy to criticize leaders after the fact about their concerns. We don’t know what would have happened if we did nothing.

            “Sure, we could have nuked N. Korea and China and everyone else in sight, but to what end? As a result we wasted enormous amounts of American blood and treasure, and left N. Korea standing to fight another day. Unfortunately, N. Korea is still standing, and now it really is a problem.”

            The war was winnable. But that doesn’t mean we should have been there at all, which is still debatable. Any fan of Diana West ought to know where the fundamental problems came from. They saw us as big suckers by that time and for the most part we were. For the most part we still are.

          • Drakken

            Oh oh oh I know the answer ! After WW 2, and I do want my gold star gosh darnit! ;)

          • objectivefactsmatter

            FDR is the biggest loser in terms of setting us up for problems that still exist to this day.

          • Drakken

            We should have never had the Nuremburg trials, all it was, was victors justice, sure they should have hanged the top na zis for the concentration camps, but to charge the Feld Marshals, Generals and rank and file with war crimes was the height of hypocrisy especially where the Russians where concerned, and it has tied our hands ever since.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            We should have realized who our enemies were before the freaking war was funded. It may have been OK to give them some assistance, with our eyes wide open to what they will do when and if they gain the upper hand.

            So yeah, many grave mistakes were made. That doesn’t mean we really should have done the polar opposite in each event, but it means that because our eyes were almost shut entirely that we set ourselves up for some extended misery when we allowed them to infiltrate and deceive us. They’re still here.

            The Soviets lost their empire but won America, if their agenda was to spread the cancer of collectivism.

          • Drakken

            I agree with you.
            What I find ironic is the Russians are going head over heels with capitalism and we are going the opposite route to socialism, who woulda ever thunk it?
            The US and Russia are not going to attack each other but some our interest do coincide with each other, even though comrade Obummer would eff up a wet dream the Russians keep throwing him a bone. Especially where Syria was concerned.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            The Russian people are not our natural enemies. Not at all. But what’s happened in Russia for the last hundred years has brought us in to conflict. We could easily resolve that if we weren’t kept distracted by so many other things.

            Our constitution should be a model for the world. We don’t talk about that much. Half the country doesn’t even respect it, so why should anyone else?

          • Drakken

            If you ever have the opportunity to go to Russia and the Ukraine, do so, for it is worth it. You really do come to understand the Russian mindset and why they do the things they do, and vise versa.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Right you are. And why? Because we have taken the bait and sent hundreds of thousands of men around the world on fool’s missions to waste precious American “blood and treasure” in the bottomless pits of middle eastern deserts and the impenetrable jungles of Southeast Asia.”

            But you’ve reversed cause and effect.

          • Texas Patriot

            The cause of these disasters is that we’ve allowed ourselves to be baited into wars we could not possibly win. The effect is that we’ve wasted mountains of American blood and treasure for nothing. It’s the oldest trick in the book. Lure a stronger foe into conflicts on unfamiliar terrain far from home so that he will waste his precious men and materiel without winning anything. Then strike when he is weak. It’s classic asymmetrical warfare, and that’s what our enemies have been using against us since the end of WWII, and it’s worked.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “The cause of these disasters is that we’ve allowed ourselves to be baited into wars we could not possibly win.”

            The cause of these disasters is that we’ve allowed ourselves to be baited into war objectives we could not possibly accomplish.

            ‘It’s the oldest trick in the book. Lure a stronger foe into conflicts on unfamiliar terrain far from home so that he will waste his precious men and materiel without winning anything.”

            Mmmm, sure people adjust tactics but we let them win every time. We only ever defeat ourselves.

            “Then strike when he is weak. It’s classic asymmetrical warfare, and that’s what our enemies have been using against us since the end of WWII, and it’s worked.”

            Ahh, well guess what? My point is that we’re only weak when we choose to be. We are only ever defeated politically, and that happens almost entirely at home.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Our schools are now the most expensive and the most ineffective in the world. Why? Because they now teach something much closer to Marxist theory than anything resembling All-American values of free market competition and human rights. Do you call that a victory? If so, why?”

            You think that has nothing to do with China and Russia?

            “Our citizens are now the most sedentary and obese of any major industrialized nation, and our health care costs per capita are almost twice as high as any other nation. Do you call that a victory? If so, how?”

            Lazy people often sit around and complain about the other guy instead of trying to compete. Who taught them to be lazy, that it’s ok because they’re victims?

            “We have lost millions upon millions of jobs and even entire industries to foreign competition, and the jobs now being created in America are low-paying jobs that are hardly enough to survive on. Do you call that victory? If so, how?”

            Hello? Who have we lost these jobs to and why?

            “We’ve gone from being the largest creditor nation in the world to the largest debtor nation in the world, and our national debt is $17 trillion and rising fast. Do you call that victory? If so, how?”

            Progressives and the left. They call it a victory and we need to purge them.

            “Wake up, mister. A real war is on the horizon and we’ve never been so unprepared in the history of the United States.”

            You’re crazy if you don’t think our rivals want this to continue here.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “It’s time to start taking care of business here at home and in our own back yard.”

          In today’s world you can not…CAN NOT ignore any part of the world if you care about your own backyard at all. Isolationism is just slow death.

          So yes please do take care of your own backyard so that we are better prepared to ensure global trade is safe as well.

    • A Z

      China or anyone else can get energy independence without muscling anyone aside.

      First, they can buy it or trade for it. Large corporations trade finished goods all the time for raw materials. Dollars, another reserve currency or gold are not required.

      Second, oil is not the end all be all of energy, where you have to shank another country in order to survive.

      If you ever visit China sometime visit Chengdu. See the panda if you must, but by all means make sure you visit the park, where Li Bing’s statue is. His is the first statue to an engineer. He turned an area that was a chronic headache into a breadbasket. The point is that we can engineer our way out, if the energy crisis instead of shanking each other. More people b_tch about the Middle East than know about the ITER reactor.

      • Texas Patriot

        A Z: “The point is that we can engineer our way out f the energy crisis instead of shanking each other. “

        I couldn’t agree more. And the Chinese are at the forefront in developing new technologies for harnessing the abundance of alternative energy resources that are likely to meet our energy needs for centuries to come.

        • A Z

          I don’t cotton to the ideal of hegemony, spheres of influence and balance of power. It is almost like those concepts have a life of their own. They are simply an emanation or penumbra of self interest (I used those d/mn nebulous terms because I do not want to write 3 pages so I’ll skate like SCOTUS trog).

          China regards Korea as in their sphere of influence. Why were we in Korea. South Korea almost literally has NOTHING! they have farmland. Reading the book Japan’s Secret War (Japan’s Race Against Time to build Its Own Atomic bomb) the Koreas are naturally bifurcated. The south is the breadbasket and the north has the mineral wealth and the hydropower (everything you need for a bomb). We have the Midwest, we did not need to trade for South Korean rice.

          We were in South Korea simply because we did not want to see 50+% or 2/3rd of the world’s population go Red. Because tech will only do so much against numbers.

          Mao & Stalin were content for Kim il sung to conquer South Korea to make it Red. They encouraged the F_____! Then when he got his _ss handed to him, Mao became concerned that there would be American troops on China’s border. but if they hadn’t encouraged the dweeb, there would have been no American troops on his border. They brought it on himself.

          South Korea was not in our sphere of influence. The whole world is in our sphere of influence (or more than 50% of it) or one day we lose, when some _sshole somewhere snowballs enough countries and gets enough mass in people, resources and industrial out put to steamroll our _ss.

          Look what the National Socialist German Workers’ Party did. They had 1/6 (16%) of world output and they nearly won. They almost took Moscow in 1941.

          • Texas Patriot

            A Z: “I don’t cotton to the ideal of hegemony, spheres of influence and balance of power. It is almost like those concepts have a life of their own. They are simply an emanation or penumbra of self interest.”

            That’s precisely what they are, and unless you think survival is not a worthwhile self-interest, get used to it.

          • A Z

            To survive you do not need to take away territory to get other people’s oil.

            You can trade for oil. You will have to work harder than if you were blessed with a surfeit of oil or some other resource but can survive and then thrive.

            Singapore has zip for natural resources. south Korea had zip for resources in the 1950s. Japan had a vibrant industry in the 1910 they did not need to steal Manchuria.

            Japan without a WW2 might have a more vibrant culture today if they had not gone to war. Now they are in a d_ath spiral. Ditto Germany. Ditto France. France stole Strausburg and the little Peacock De Gaulle is like the rest of them.

          • Texas Patriot

            A Z: “To survive you do not need to take away territory to get other people’s oil.”

            Actually I agree with that. But that’s not the point here. The question is whether the United States has a strategic economic or military interest in preventing Russia and China from exercising regional hegemony over their respective spheres of influence.

          • A Z

            Your assuming that the Russian elite do not flip.

            Prince Charles seems to soft pedal Islam.

            Of course enough people flipped then the freeloaders in Europe would be upset that their “racism” (or whatever) card was taken away.About all they would have left is a few shades of color, ethnicity or zakat. Complaining about not enough zakat would put them in the same camp as unionists.

          • Texas Patriot

            A Z: “Your assuming that the Russian elite do not flip.”

            I never assume anything about the Russians except that Russians will always look out for Russia.

          • A Z

            Putin divorced his wife. I kind of doubt he goes without.
            Most men with his amount of power do not.

            As it is Russia is 15% Muslim I think. It is due to Kazan and other areas.

            It would so easy for Russian leaders when Muslim were at 30% or 45% and the trends were still “positive” for Muslims to switch over.

            They get women, they retain power and they have another method of exerting power.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            You are both assuming that a stable world economy can exist in a vacuum. American hegemony is about creating and maintaining that stable environment. It should also be about marshaling resources from other nations that also benefit from that stability.

            “The question is whether the United States has a strategic economic or military interest in preventing Russia and China from exercising regional hegemony over their respective spheres of influence.”

            Yes of course. The only thing stopping them from further exploiting their regional power is us. They are generally rational people. We’re the idiots that have a great constitution protecting our citizens but more of our citizens believe in communism and socialism than you’ll find in China or Russia.

            China and Russia are new oligarchies that can’t be trusted because the regimes have too much power. We’re a democracy that’s blown quite a bit of our freedom, though it’s not too late to recover the situation.

            We don’t force our power on others because we’re maniacal but because we have a moral imperative to do so until there are equally just and trustworthy powers to take our place. We don’t try to rule Europe. We trade with them. We need that kind of relationship in Russia and China.

          • Drakken

            Good to know that you understand ole Stalin’s line of quantity has a quality all its own.

          • A Z

            I have done enough Monte Carlo simulations and read enough history to learn this.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “I couldn’t agree more. And the Chinese are at the forefront in developing new technologies for harnessing the abundance of alternative energy resources that are likely to meet our energy needs for centuries to come.”

          China could be a great ally, but they’re not right now. Our leaders have not managed it to be that way because they’ve been distracted by leftist lies and quite frankly the same kind of cronyism allowed in China is also allowed to permeate DC. We need to stop accepting this BS.

          And if we care so much about union labor in this country, why don’t we give a damn about importing products made by skilled workers who are paid about a $1 a hour or less? Send those union pukes to China until they stop complaining about the plants closing here. These are global issues that need global solutions based on what really exists, not dreams and bologna.

          We have to force people to look at things comprehensively before we accept their BS lies. That includes this nonsense about China is to be held to a different standard than we are in terms of environmental laws. I am 100% confident that if we had broad consensus in the West that we would support no income redistribution schemes in the name of the environment that the worldwide consensus would also change. Once they knew we reject these scams they’d look for more productive use of their time.

          And if we purge all of this collectivist BS that would give them fewer ways to talk us in to killing ourselves for their sake.

    • TheOrdinaryMan

      The keyword in your message above is “appears,” but I argue that that’s not what’s happening at all. How is America consolidating her power in the West? By having her military gutted, and turned into some social engineering forum? With hostile countries like Venezuela and Mexico(run by drug gangs) to the south; not to mention Cuba? China isn’t interested in regional hegemony…..they want to dominate the globe; and they don’t care if they run over their own people to do it. The Chinese are in Africa, stealing minerals and gold/silver from weak central African countries, while supporting elephant poaching. They’re also trying to establish a dominant position in space. Meanwhile, where is NASA? Reaching out to Muslims. Hate to tell you, but there’s no such thing as regional hegemony anymore.

      • Texas Patriot

        There is no question that by focusing too much on the role of “global policeman”, America has neglected to keep her own house in order, as well as failed to provide appropriate neighborly assistance and guidance to our closest neighbors to the North and South, and those are the things we need to work on. With the combined oil and human resources of the United States, Canada, and Mexico, we can form a strategic industrial powerhouse capable of competing and winning against the emerging industrial giants of India and China, and that will be the name of the game for the 21st Century.

        As much as I love Teddy Roosevelt, his policy of “gunboat diplomacy” with China is as outmoded as the idea that America has retained its relative competitive advantage as an industrial powerhouse. It’s a new world out there, and we need to adapt to it very quickly, or risk going the way of the Dodo bird.

        And in that regard, if you haven’t already read Dr. Robert Atkinson’s “Innovation Economics: The Race for Global Advantage” (Yale University Press, 2012), it should be considered essential reading for anyone who cares about America’s competitive survival in the 21st Century:

        http://www.amazon.com/Innovation-Economics-Race-Global-Advantage/dp/0300168993/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1387219667&sr=8-1&keywords=innovation+economics

        And if the book is too much for you, at least watch the video of Dr. Atkinson’s presentation of the book in October of 2012. You won’t be sorry.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWM08DzTuhY

        • TheOrdinaryMan

          So some egghead named Atkinson writes a book with a catchy title, and Mr. Texas Patriot thinks this is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I do agree that this idea–a regional industrial powerhouse with Canada and Mexico–sounds good; but just how is it supposed to be accomplished? Especially with Obama as President, and the current political make up of Congress? If we can’t even build the Keystone oil pipeline; how is the U.S. supposed to accomplish it? By the way, I’ve read Econ books, too; but I don’t have an hour to spend ascending the lofty heights of academic inquiry. Perhaps Mr. Texas Patriot can summarize it for us ordinary folk. I take it he’s listened to the video.

          • Texas Patriot

            TOM: “Perhaps Mr. Texas Patriot can summarize it for us ordinary folk. “

            I wish you would watch it for yourself, or even better, read the book It’s easily the most incisive analysis I have ever seen to explain what has happened to America over the last fifty years. Basically, it discusses how the systematic outsourcing of different aspects of our industrial economy has strengthened our competitors and weakened America, with the inevitable cumulative result that their economies are on the rise, and ours is on the wane.

            Atkinson explains that the widely held perception that outsourcing production to foreign countries makes good business and economic sense is based on the neoclassical school of economics which is followed by the vast majority of economists now working in Washington DC. It has even become known as the “Washington Consensus”. Unfortunately, it is based on an economic theory that has been rigidly followed by Great Britain and has placed them on the verge of becoming a failed state.

            Can this trend of de-industrialization be reversed in America? Can we once again become a dominant industrial player that exports more than we import? Can we reduce the trade and budget deficits that are sapping the very life out of our future? That remains to be seen. But Atkinson does not think it is impossible, and he recommends a series of measures to be taken to strengthen our competitive position vis-a-vis our international competitors in the area of high-value added manufacturing including increased research and development incentives, increased investment tax credits, and lower corporate taxes.

            This is not rocket science, but the cumulative effect of not taking these steps could be fatal. You should watch the video and read the book yourself, and you should recommend it to all your friends who care about the future of America. The consequences of staying on the course we are on today are grim. There is still hope for the future of America, but it will never be realized unless we mobilize as a nation to take the necessary steps to reorganize and make it happen.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Basically, it discusses how the systematic outsourcing of different aspects of our industrial economy has strengthened our competitors and weakened America, with the inevitable cumulative result that their economies are on the rise, and ours is on the wane.”

            That’s correct. That’s because we’re not actually a coercive malignant empire and people learn and gain from our leadership. While at the same time the communists have used their BS to justify attacking our industries using bogus theories about class victims and we now overpay many of our skilled workers. Furthermore we don’t react strongly enough when the true imperialists exploit workers throughout the world. This allows certain enemy regimes to exploit our stupidity.

            Therefore the trend is leading more towards a bigger chance of a major clash because we have tensions in how each government expects these things to play out. Communists regimes want to abuse their own people, but they also want to abuse foreigners or anyone and anything they can. Communist regimes are pretty much the opposite of what they claim to be.

            “Can this trend of de-industrialization be reversed in America? Can we once again become a dominant industrial player that exports more than we import? Can we reduce the trade and budget deficits that are sapping the very life out of our future? That remains to be seen.”

            Yes. Completely debunk collectivism and start teaching our students how the world really works rather than collectivist bullshit they get constantly. Purge the liars and the lies and you’ll have room to teach more about how things get done productively.

    • Drakken

      Are you on effing drugs? Obummer is retreating from everywhere you bloody leftist dolt. We are now closer to war than we have ever been thanks to Obummer retreating everywhere and does nothing to protect our interests or people, God save us from people like you and your wishful thinking.

      • Texas Patriot

        Do you imagine that we are at war with China or Russia or any other nation? We haven’t actually been at war with any nation since WWII. We’ve spent trillions of dollars and wasted more than a hundred thousand American lives trying to be the world’s policeman, and we’ve been a very poor one at that. No one asked us to do the job, and no one appointed us. It’s a job that we took upon ourselves as a result of the deluded notion that we are too big and too strong to fail no matter how much American blood and treasure we wasted. Hopefully even you can see how foolish that was.

        • Drakken

          Russia is not our enemy no matter what the old cold war folks tell you, Russia has interests as we do and when push comes to shove they will side with the west over China, because Chine wants what Russia has in Siberia. China is an emerging power and will given an inch will take a mile as your hero Obummer is giving them, thank God the Japs are building up their air force and navy for they see what is coming, only this time I don’t think there is going to be a divine wind to take out the Chin navy

          • Texas Patriot

            Drakken: “Russia is not our enemy no matter what the old cold war folks tell you.”

            You are one of the cold war folks, and you don’t even know it.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          K,

          Let me explain a part of the theory you don’t get. Let’s say that we have a trade partner on Mars. Our ally on Mars is threatened by someone on Jupiter. We would not simply say “oh, too far.” We look at the costs and benefits of the entire relationship. If that’s true on Mars it’s certainly true anywhere on this planet. Therefore hanging any ally out to dry supposedly because we’re overextended is overly simplistic.

          It’s true we can’t parachute in to every tragedy where we don’t have a stake. But protecting our allies anywhere in the world is something more complicated than counting costs of deployment and then shrugging our collective shoulders.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “…America is consolidating her power in the West…”

      Is that “green energy” or the political equivalent?

    • Omar

      Russia would have remained pro-Western like its former satellite states if it had barred Cold War-era Communist officials from running for public office. Under Yeltsin, Russia was an emerging democracy. But the neo-Communist thug Putin took power in Russia and took Russia back to the Communist agenda in foreign policy. In a truly moral world, Putin would be in prison instead of governing Russia as its “president” for three full terms.

  • Hank Rearden

    The most ironic and the most likely outcome of the Vietnam War is that Vietnam will invite us to build a naval base at Cam Ranh Bay. Of course, to do that, they would have to hate the Chinese more than they do us, but I suspect that criterion has been fulfilled.

    China has been in eclipse for 500 years and they think that now it is their turn. An interesting move would be to pay an exorbitant sum to buy a lease on a Greek island, thereby easing the Greek economic crisis and vaulting themselves into the Western hemisphere.

    We have to contain China militarily, but let’s not panic. It has no cultural hegemony and nowhere logically to expand to unless it expects to take over the Philippines. China wants recognition as a world leader and it is not in our interest to deny them that.

    • A Z

      “With the new government in place, the Chinese communists expected only two things from the United States: that China be accepted as a great power and that China’s traditional sphere of influence be respected. … and to keep American troops away from its’ borders.”

      “Warrior Mao” MHQ Spring 2007

      China is a permanent member of the UN Security Council. What more recognition do they require?

      Obama bowing before the Chinese leader?

      • Peter_T

        Unlike the ignorant author who wrote this article, Obama bowed that deeply (45% angle) only to the Japanese Emperor.

        • Drakken

          Let me guess? Your an Obummer cheerleader and voter right?

        • A Z

          So Obama only bowed 46 degrees.

          Ah, I see the difference!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CseUglupmZk

          If Obama had got any lower, he would have been in a prostrate position that a Persian or Chinese emperor would have recognized and expected!

          • AddisonDewitt

            Bill O is a jack azz

  • 11bravo

    Obama is a boy doing a man’s job. China is already a world power. If China is allowed (by Obama) to humiliate the US, the rest of the globe (western civilization) goes into total freak-out mode, as opposed to the panic mode over US weakness in the face of force or ideologies in the ME.
    This is a big effing deal. No matter how many times the cowardly left of our country, and the badmouthing Europeans say they hate America…We are the last best hope on earth, and the only hope for them – and they know it. To think otherwise is foolish.

    • Myrtle Linder

      A wicked child doing a criminals corrupt job, He is not doing a man’s job. A man would be utterly ashamed to produce what he has produced. No the job being done is not a mans work.

    • Huck Folder

      Post Turtle

  • truebearing

    China is testing Obama, and Obama will fail. He always does, whether intentionally or due to his massive incompetence, or both. He will fail, if for no other reason, and there are more, than the painful fact that China is resolutely for China, whereas Obama is for Obama, not the well being of the United States.

    China comes to the conflict with an unblinking poker face. The best Obama can muster is a deranged jack-o-lantern grin and an obsequious, effiminate bow. He’s got “sissy” stamped on his forehead, in neon.

    • A Z

      His grin? Come to think of it, it did not take much to morph his image into that of the jokers.

    • Myrtle Linder

      We have sold out to this Anti-GOD nation,a nation where Christians are jailed, as the kindest punishment that they give, for being Christian. I understand they own us, we owe them so much money. They have got trillions tied up in the country. Almost every merchandile business is loaded with China made merchandize. Many times we are forced to buy merchandize made in China or do without, if possible I do without, I refuse to buy it unless it is something I absolutely have to have. This is the position in which Obama wants us. When we go down he has his job lined up and we have paid for it.

  • Adheeb

    We should soon learn whether or not the Chinese are racists.

    • A Z

      People are always racist. It is like or it is part of original sin. Some people conquer it or mostly so and many do not.

      • Adheeb

        Obama used and uses the fear of being labeled a ‘racist’ against his opposition to his advantage and generally gets away with it. However, I don’t think the Chinese could care less, they always do what is in their national interest. This leaves Mr.Obama without one of his most effective political weapons.

        • Dallas25305

          It only works with White Liberal Socialist suckers.

      • Dallas25305

        Yes, Blacks never will conquer racism and have no desire to.

    • Drakken

      If the blacks think that whitey is racist? Wait until they get a load of the Chins and what they do by the millions when it suits them.

  • A Z

    “With the new government in place, the Chinese communists expected only two things from the United States: that China be accepted as a great power and that China’s traditional sphere of influence be respected. … and to keep American troops away from its’ borders.”

    “Warrior Mao” MHQ Spring 2007

    No one asked Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, The Phillipines, Malaysia if they wanted to be in China’s sphere of influence.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Exactly. And it doesn’t serve our interests in any way by screwing them. Not to mention India, Indonesia, Australia et al.

    • Brian_R_Allen

      …. No one asked Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, The Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, Brunei, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, India, Pakistan, Russia, Mongolia and any others if they wanted to be in China’s sphere of influence …

      We did.

      And they, all, do not!

      • Omar

        Actually, neo-Communist Russia and Communist China do share a sphere of influence with each other. They are both Marxist states. They both hate democracy and the West.

  • onecornpone

    China is at least as interested in foodstuffs as they are in oil.

  • Texas Patriot

    Since discovering this board, Daniel Greenfield has been one of my favorite political analysts and political commentators, but he’s dead wrong on this one.

    • Drakken

      The one who is wrong is you, in spades. Trying to explain it to you while your cheering for your hero Obummer is less than useless.

      • Texas Patriot

        Wake up. WWIII has already started, and you’re still fighting the Cold War which we lost. Want to lose WWIII as well? Don’t worry. You’re on the right track.

        • Drakken

          No dear, We are just at the beginning stage of ww3 and I am way ahead of you.

          • Texas Patriot

            Drakken: “I am way ahead of you.”

            No you’re not. You still think we need to play “tough guy” with China, and nothing could be further from the truth.

          • Drakken

            You do not understand the oriental mind my dear, they will send millions to their deaths in order to pursue a goal, while we in the west now are afraid to use our might to win, tragic really.

          • Texas Patriot

            And you do not understand military strategy. Talking tough and acting tough don’t really count. We lost the Cold War because we didn’t know our enemy and we are well on the way toward losing this one for the same reason.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            The cold war with China never quite ended. It just simmered down. Now it’s heating up again, though not in order to threaten us directly.

            It’s not in our interests to allow China to increase it’s stature anywhere. Though it’s not a case of “pay any price” either. But we’re still handling it wrong from any perspective other than a communist or socialist one.

          • Texas Patriot

            OFM: “It’s not in our interests to allow China to increase it’s stature anywhere.”

            We would be well advised to increase our own stature instead of trying to keep China from increasing theirs.

            A bankrupt nation that has lost millions and millions of jobs and entire industries to foreign competition, which is running chronic trade and budget deficits, and has $17 trillion in debt, the worst educational system in the world, and the most sedentary and obese population with the highest per capita health care expenses in the world is hardly going to have a lot of “stature” in anybody’s mind.

            China has steadily earned its stature by increasing its industrial base and international competitiveness, whereas we have steadily lost ours by forfeiting our industrial base and decreasing our international competitiveness, and no amount of pretending or posturing will change any of that.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “We would be well advised to increase our own stature instead of trying to keep China from increasing theirs.”

            I meant relative to one another in a zero sum sense. So any change matters in terms of being able to say, protect an ally in the region.

            “A bankrupt nation that has lost millions and millions of jobs and entire industries to foreign competition, which is running chronic trade and budget deficits, and has $17 trillion in debt, the worst educational system in the world, and the most sedentary and obese population with the highest per capita health care expenses in the world is hardly going to have a lot of “stature” in anybody’s mind.”

            We’ve got a lot of problems at home but they are not unrelated to our relationships abroad. When the Chinese regime is able to influence editing of films – and who knows what other propaganda efforts are made – lies at the UN about “global warming” and just endless games to try to defeat us economically through any means short of war, this all matters.

            “China has steadily earned its stature by increasing its industrial base and international competitiveness, whereas we have steadily lost ours by forfeiting our industrial base and decreasing our international competitiveness, and no amount of pretending or posturing will change any of that.”

            Right. But we’re attacked as “imperialists” while they’re seen as victims when actually it’s precisely the opposite. That’s a big problem. That has to change.

          • Texas Patriot

            I’m not hearing the same sort of vitriolic anti-American rhetoric from China that we used to hear. Most of that these days seems to be coming from N. Korea. Otherwise, I have no problem with the idea of doing what we can to modernize our industrial plants to make them the cleanest, most efficient, and most productive on earth. Converting to natural gas from coal should get us a long way down the line in doing that. China doesn’t have the natural gas resources we do, and they are going to have a much harder time with that. Let’s put it this way, if China becomes the biggest polluter on earth, I seriously doubt that we’ll be hearing much more about global warming.

          • Omar

            “I’m not hearing the same sort of vitriolic anti-American rhetoric from China that we used to hear”
            That’s because during the late 1970s, the Communist leadership in China liberalized their economy and started supporting the West in certain foregn policy issues against the Soviets. Remember that the Sino-Soviet Split had strained relations between the two countries (Communist China and the Soviet Union). Because Communist China wasn’t an ally of the Soviet Union during the late Cold War years, it was less critical of American foreign policy than Communist countries which were allied with the Soviet Union. Because the Cold War is over and a somewhat different world arena emerged, China and Russia are ideological allies against the West and democracy. That’s the reality.

          • Texas Patriot

            Omar: “China and Russia are ideological allies against the West and democracy. That’s the reality.”

            I’ve never met even two people who agree completely about any ideology or any religion, and my guess is that the Russians and Chinese don’t agree as much as you think they do.

            Survival in this world is a function of economic power and military force, and the only real question is how to develop and sustain a competitive edge in each of those critical areas over a long period of time in a volatile, rapidly changing, and increasingly complex environment. Americans have one view about that. Russians have another view. And the Chinese have still another view. And no one really knows which system will emerge as the ultimate winner.

            It seems to me that rather than worrying about what the Russians and the Chinese are doing in their respective spheres of influence, the important thing for Americans is to make sure that our system works and we come out on top. What good does it do to fight tooth and nail for every inch of territory around the world when our own system is imploding at home?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “I’ve never met even two people who agree completely about any ideology or any religion, and my guess is that the Russians and Chinese don’t agree as much as you think they do.”

            We’re not judging “Chinese people” as a collective. We’re judging the actions and motives of various regimes. These are not constitutional republics that we’re dealing with. Which is the entire problem. We generally don’t have problems with constitutional republics.

            “It seems to me that rather than worrying about what the Russians and the Chinese are doing in their respective spheres of influence, the important thing for Americans is to make sure that our system works and we come out on top.”

            Any major power will have significant global reach. Our global rivals are in our “back yard.”

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “I’m not hearing the same sort of vitriolic anti-American rhetoric from China that we used to hear. Most of that these days seems to be coming from N. Korea.”

            Well no, the game changed radically over time. It usually does. The Chinese got wise a lot sooner than the Soviets did. But that just means that the Chinese regime has been able to continue to rise in power where the Soviets crashed. Now Russia is led by a guy that won his success in the Soviet regime. What does that tell you? Things may not have changed quite as much as we had hoped during the Bush I and Clinton years.

            But at least we understand Russia somewhat compared to how China is viewed. The respective regimes play differently. China is a whole lot more dangerous in the long term even though Russia is the one overtly challenging us in the Middle East.

            Russia can be dealt with in a single election. China is a bigger problem long-term. We need a new POTUS and a much better strategy to deal with their form of economic warfare. Furthermore, the Chinese people need us to formulate a strategy because it’s a lot worse for them than it is for us.

            “Otherwise, I have no problem with the idea of doing what we can to modernize our industrial plants to make them the cleanest, most efficient, and most productive on earth.”

            Well that’s a nice but vague objective. It takes a comprehensive plan to ensure we realize the fruits of your vision. It’s not that you’re wrong, but it takes a lot more to succeed, and if we don’t develop a comprehensive and effective plan it is more likely that our efforts to do this will simply ensure our quicker failure rather than the success we deserve.

            This climate change BS must be debunked to the extent that we get straight science only. If there are malignant issues, we need to deal with those globally, without the “historic victim” and reparations scams integrated in to the solution. Because in the end that is all that will happen. We will simply be handing out more money and wondering why they’re gaining on us That’s the part I don’t think you see. We’re throwing the game because of leftist psychopaths that actually are allowed to vote in this nation, against our interests.

            “Let’s put it this way, if China becomes the biggest polluter on earth, I seriously doubt that we’ll be hearing much more about global warming.”

            Hello! It’s been that way for decades. That didn’t stop them before, and if it changes, it will be because enough Americans have woken up to the scam and put a stop to it. Or at least displayed enough resistance to it, as we are trying to now.

    • Dallas25305

      Hey Texas, having read your moronic leftist crap from below, your really from New York right????

      • Texas Patriot

        Nope. I’m from Houston, and I’d be more than happy to give you a lesson or two in conservative philosophy.

  • knockoutajournalist

    China’s version of our Monroe doctrine is being swiftly put in place.

    • Drakken

      The problem with that is, the Chins own the Panama Canal.

      • knockoutajournalist

        Sec state Kerry said we have abandoned our Monroe doctrine. “The era of the Monroe Doctrine is over,” Mr. Kerry said in a speech at the Organization of American States in Washington, D.C.” OBAMA!

        • Drakken

          Much to our chagrin and soon to be horror.

  • Drakken

    Well the thing with the Japanese is, they no longer trust the US and are on a crash course of building their navy and air force. Comrade Obozo is taking us to the abyss of war like no other in the history of man, weakness perceived is weakness personified, we are truly bloody effed, a true trifecta of disaster looms before us, a crashing economy, a muslim resurgence and China rising, what could possibly go wrong?

    • Hass

      The one thing I’ve learned about human history is that good always triumphs over evil, eventually.

      • Moa

        So what? if it takes two billion bodies to stop the Caliphate and Chinese Empire then we should be happy?

        Disaster can be averted by showing resolve early. War is merely a means for breaking the other side’s will to fight. Obama and the regressive Democrats have learned nothing from history (especially the last century).

        Si vis pacem, para bellum ! yet Obama and his merry band of Cultural Marxists are more worried about getting more fudge packers in the DoD, than in preventing the most brutal war that the World will ever see.

        • Brian_R_Allen

          …. the most brutal war that the World will ever see ….

          Aren’t they all?

    • Brian_R_Allen

      …. Comrade Obozo is taking us to the abyss of war like no other in the history of man, weakness perceived is weakness personified, we are truly bloody effed, a true trifecta of disaster looms before us, a crashing economy, a muslim resurgence and China rising, what could possibly go wrong …?

      We were not too long ago led way worse by a treasonous barsteward whose perilous perfidy makes a piker of the poor ol’ mama’s mulatto presently pretending to the presidency.

      And we survived him.

      We survived Roosevelt.

      And will also survive Zero.

      • Drakken

        Sorry Brian, I have to adamantly disagree with you, the difference between Roosevelt and Obummer is, the economy that Roosevelt had compared with what we have today are two very different things and 4 times the population. Roosevelt despite his best socialist efforts made the depression last twice as long as it should have, Obummer is taking us headlong into a depression on steroids, with the added benefit of China rising and there is no misunderstanding their intentions as Roosevelt misunderstood the Japs, and finally we have the muslims on the march all over the place pushing their Islamic agenda in our western countries, sooner or later and I am betting on sooner, things are going to come to a crashing halt and a violent backlash. I hope that I am very wrong, but history unfortunately is bearing me out. Obummer without any bloody doubt is the worst thing ever to disgrace the White house.

        • Brian_R_Allen

          Obama’s a total barsteward, that’s a given.

          But on the scale of things he’s wet behind the ears.

          Compared even with Richard Nixon whose destructive fascist impositions included wage and price controls and such longer-lasting evils as having:

          *Created OHSA (Occupational Health & Safety Act) in
          1970 that has tyrannized businesses ever since;

          *Created the Environmental Protection Agency, a horror of fascism;

          *Requiring Environmental Impact Statements in 1970,
          allowing environmental whackos s to block most anything they don’t like;

          *His having removed the United States Dollar from the Gold Standard;

          *Created permanent and escalating increases in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid payments;

          *His having announced a “War on Drugs” that resulted
          in the creation of the Drug Enforcement Agency;

          *Creating the Endangered Species Act and;

          *Nixon allowed the Saudis to perpetrate their (October 1973 through March 1974 Arab Oil Embargo whose results included permanently sky-high oil prices and gave the Saudis the Billions of Dollars with which they have spread their totalitarian Wahhabi-islamic poison. Instead of his having enforced a counter-embargo of food imports into Saudi Arabia and having told the Saudis to drink their oil and pound their sand.

          Thus, Nixon made a Boy Scout of Obama.

          But even Nixon was an amateur when his degradations are compared to those of the traitor Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Roosevelt’s so-called “new deal of was such a massively-unconstitutional expansion of fascist federal power that it turns both Nixon and Zero into puny pikers.

          The only way to get a real grasp of the enormity of the traitorous damage done to America by the Roosevelt Presidency, though, is to read by M. Stanton Evans’
          and Herbert Romerstein’s, “ Stalin’s Secret Agents: The Subversion of Roosevelt’s Government. (AMAZON: http://tinyurl.com/k4b27y7)

          Here are a couple of facts regarding Roosevelt Messrs Evans and Romerstein reveal: (For expediency lifted from Doctor Jack Wheeler’s To-The-Point News – http://tinyurl.com/ljrzblv)

          QUOTE:

          “*FDR’s closest adviser – so close he lived in a second-floor bedroom of the White House from 1940 through 1943 – Harry Hopkins, had the KGB code name of Zamestitel (“Deputy”) as one of its agents. In charge of the Lend-Lease program of aid to Stalin, he had uranium-235 and specs on how to construct an atomic bomb shipped to the KGB in Russia;

          “*Roosevelt’s White House and agencies, particularly State, Treasury and the Office of Strategic Services, the forerunner to the CIA, were thoroughly penetrated
          by Soviet secret agents working for the Kremlin: Duncan Lee, Confidential Assistant to OSS Chief William Donovan; Harry Dexter White, Assistant Treasury
          Secretary; Lauchlin Currie, Administrative Assistant to the President (FDR in the Oval Office); John Stewart Service, the State Dept. diplomat who ended American Aid to Chiang Kai-shek and secured Mao’s seizure of power in China and; of course, Alger Hiss.

          “There are dozens and dozens more.

          “In short, this huge Soviet cabal in Washington achieved their goal: that World War II was fought and won not to make the world safe for democracy and freedom, but to make the world safe for Stalin’s Soviet Russia – which included the Communist enslavement of eastern Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary,
          Romania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, and Albania – and for the creation of a Communist Red China.

          “That is what FDR’s presidency and its aftermath achieved. Countless millions of lives doomed to Communist poverty, slave labor camps, death by firing squads, a life of fear and misery. What evil has Zero and
          his minions done to match it? The guy’s an amateur at evil.

          “Especially when his fawning, worshipful media are amateurs at protecting him, compared to FDR’s media – who protected him so well that most Americans never
          knew that he was confined to a wheelchair (much less saw a picture – after contracting polio in 1921 he remained permanently paralyzed from the waist
          down). Any critic of FDR or his Red confidantes was mercilessly smeared by the press, who enjoyed a monopoly over the news. Not a whiff of any FDR scandal was permitted to be heard by the public.”

          END QUOTE.

          Like I said, compared with the totalitarian-lite, Nixon, Zero’s a piker.

          Compared with the traitor, Roosevelt, he’s a non-starter.

          But his Fascist Media are a bit of a worry.

          As are the descendants of the basta*d-offspring of the Soviet agents Alger Hiss et al. Who to this day comprise the State Department’s brahmanas. And whose carefully-cloned Foreign(er) Service(ing) savants ‘Ugly American’ us, abroad.

          Brian Richard Allen

          • Drakken

            Brian, I agree with your above points wholeheartedly, but the commi’s children and grand children are now in charge and this by any means is not going to end well. Maybe with these Quisling politicians turning on the military, things just might change for the better as per Heinlein style.

  • Dallas25305

    Allow Japan to build tactical nuclear weapons. That’s the one thing China would fear. The Japanese culture is a suicidal one and China knows from past experience Japan will use everything they have if attacked. Unlike the racist whimp Obozo they are not afraid.

    • Drakken

      They already have them.

      • A Z

        That is the 1st I have heard of it via forums, conspiracy theorists or the news.

        • Drakken

          I don’t buy into conspiracy theory, I deal in cold, hard, brutal facts. They have had them since the Clinton days and the reason no body wants to say anything about it, is that no body wants to throw a monkey wrench into the works of the status quo.

          • A Z

            The Japanese also have the death penalty. no one says much about it. It is all done behind closed doors without an announcement.

            The death penalty gets a lot of negative press by activists. Yet Japan does it and there is little fuss. One is because of the secrecy and tow is because relatives of the executed are too ashamed to protest. After all their family member committed the crimes.

            The Japanese keep mum about the DP, it would be understandbly more so about nukes.

            They already did basic research during WW2 in North Korea. They have the tech base from that time and built up since then.

            I’ll assume you heard scuttlebutt, but I will have to verify for myself, which at this juncture seems unlikely.

          • Drakken

            Please by all means try to find out by other sources, never ever take anything at face value, confirm, confirm and confirm again. I could point you in the direction of some published policy papers perhaps? What I do know isn’t scuttlebutt and you are right about the Japs, they are the masters of not saying anything and deny everything.

          • A Z

            ” I could point you in the direction of some published policy papers perhaps?”

            Bingo!

            I should have come right out an asked. I did not know if you got it 1st person or had a 3rd person (safe) source.

          • Drakken

            One cannot give direct answers without directing them to a alternative direct source to confirm ————.

          • A Z

            I remember a friend going on & on about the unholy trinity of Taiwan, South Africa & Israel.

            Now , your average person cannot tell East Asians apart.

          • Drakken

            Before SA fell to the kaffirs, the whites delivered all of their nukes to the Israeli’s, perhaps and this is pure speculation on my part, they may have gotten SA nukes, but otherwise they produced them on their own.

  • rubber stamp

    China is not stupid. They know we have Prez term limits. They know that our next Prez Cruz or Walker won’t hesitate to push that “red” button, and with a pleasure.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      That’s right. That’s one big reason why they’re rushing. They’re not trying to kill us, they’re trying to increase their regional dominance and lowering our stature is part of what is required for that to happen. That’s why China is the biggest indirect threat to world peace.

  • tickletik

    The most bitter thing about this is, that 99.9% of the cretinous moronic garbage that voted for that communist POS are probably still convinced this is the greatest man to ever sit in the white house.

    That’s the thing that makes me most sick. That it doesn’t matter what the results are, it doesn’t matter what disasters this evil drug addicted communist degenerate causes, all that matters is what the NYT says. The country could get nuked tomorrow, Obama could launch it himself on camera while giving us all the finger, and the rotten people that run the presses would cheer him on, and the masses would throw a damn parade for the opportunity to glow in the dark.

    • zoomie

      well said … it’s why i don’t talk to my neighbors anymore. educated kool aid drinkers of the world, gulp it down.

  • A Z

    “Bill Clinton sold out Japan by letting North Korea go nuclear”

    That is a disturbing thought. Bill Clinton is craven, avaricious and lustful. However, I thought him and Hillary “cared” about the U.S., because they wanted a great fief to rule. I also figure that they care somewhat about foreign policy besides they have offspring. they took great care in getting Chelsea a job in the investing industry & senior management consulting (McKinsey & Company & Avenue Capital Group) and it paid. She has a 10.5 million starter home.

    An America shorn of allies looks like Russian circa 1904 or 1914, a colossal weakling.

    So if Clinton sold out Japan what did he get in return?

    • Drakken

      Hilary absolutely despises the military and during the Clinton era it was a nightmare for the military. The same idiot that negotiated with the norks is the same idiot negotiating with Iran now.

  • timpottorff

    ‘O’ is an invertebrate.

  • vladimirval

    As far as the Obama is concerned, China can become the main power and influence in that area. The only thing that the Obama will try to stand up for is the Muslims spreading their Islamism in China and that whole area. America’s standing there, and the whole world is of no importance to him. We have to retire his enablers in Congress and then replace him with a true patriot.

  • Hass

    I bet Taiwan is not sitting comfortable either.

  • terrylrt1

    Once again, a very informative and well-written piece.

  • Ellman48

    I watched the movie “13 Days” about JFK’s confrontation with Kruschev in 1962 this weekend. It made me realize how any comparisons between JFK and Obama are laughable at best. We can all be thankful that Obama was not the President when Russia installed nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962. Those missiles, if not used against us by now, would still be standing there ready to do so if Obama had been in the WH. Maybe none of us would be reading and commenting on Daniel’s brilliant (as usual) article. The only leader in the world that Obama confronts with any backbone at all is Benjamin Netenyahu. The Middle East is already a chaotic disaster and will probably be dominated by Iran relatively soon, as China will dominate Asia in the near future. America made a monumental mistake in allowing Obama to become the President and we will continue to reap the whirlwind for a long time for that mistake, domestically and internationally.

  • PRA53

    Obummer is no kind of leader, of course he will fail.

  • Armchair general

    Liberals dismantle American power/presence because of pet theories and debatable perspectives. Fools. what will fill the vaccume? One would have thought that the reality of the world would have altered their collegiate worldviews by now. But they keep right on moving forward.

    • Texas Patriot

      The real fools are the ones who don’t realize that the basis of American moral, economic, and international political authority has vanished, and at this point we are nothing but a bankrupt shadow of the glorious nation that once conquered Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan in less than four years. Folly and stupidity have a way of catching up with the greatest of nations, and our domestic and international policies since the end of WWII take the cake in both categories.

    • lyndaaquarius

      The American people are now feeling the sting of those “pet theories and debatable perspectives” and are champing at the bit for our recourse…the 2014 mid-term elections. Thanks to the foolish Leftists/Democrats and their stupid over reaching,there’s a huge power shift coming.The fundamental wisdom of the “bitter clingers” will illuminate our national debate.

  • gwm68

    What a POS we have sitting in our White House, or on vacation somewhere.

    • Drakken

      I wish he would go on vacation more, the less damage he can do.

  • Brian_R_Allen

    …. Bill Blythe (“Clinton”) sold out Japan ….

    The recidivist, treasonous, lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering co-serial-rapist Blythe-Cli’ton has sold out and/or has looted everyone he has ever encountered and and everything he and/or they ever stood for.

    And still does.

  • Omar

    “China is Communist in name only”
    Actually, China is Communist in all, but economics. While China certainly has a somewhat free market economy, it is still a Communist totalitarian society, as that country is still governed by the Communist Party that rules with an iron fist, occupies the ancient country of Tibet and jails political prisoners. Communist China also maintains an imperialist, anti-democratic and anti-Western foreign policy. Along with neo-Communist Russia and Islamist Iran, Communist China is responsibl so-called “Palestinian” terrorist groups and governing institutions in their quest to destroy the democratic state of Israel, as well as the possible second Holocaust. Communist China is still a threat to its own people and to the free world.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “Actually, China is Communist in all, but economics.”

      I would say that they have a realpolitik approach to a communist economy. They’re not shy about controlling anyone’s capital. They allow it to be free when they see they get more income than they would keeping complete control. They’re not purists about ideals. They’re purists about power and control. And they’re very pragmatic as well.

      Remember that there is no such thing is pure socialism or pure communism. They have the most advanced communist economy in history and this is simply what it looks like.

      “Communist China is still a threat to its own people and to the free world.”

      I actually agree except that the good news is that their compromises leave them vulnerable to us, if we wake up and deal with them realistically. It’s not unrealistic to hope for China to become democratic. We have to wake up and deal with them, and we must encourage and support calls for Western-style democracy. The regime is still our enemy. A lot more Chinese people are wising up.

      We are the ones blowing it. This latest generation of Americans as a whole is pretty pathetic because we’ve allowed a lot of losers to go around teaching nonsense to people without strongly challenging the bogus ideas. Bill Ayers? Come on people. Rashid Khalidi? These people are taken seriously? Thanks to people like Howard Zinn and Ed Said, yes they are taken seriously. We’ve got to deal with these realities.

      What have we become?

      • Texas Patriot

        OFM: “What have we become?”

        We have become confused in our thinking. We can see the faults of others but we can’t see our own. Vladimir Putin put it best, we are suffering from Winner’s Syndrome, and we’ve gotten away from doing what we do best and what put us on top in the first place. As Warren Buffet would say, we’ve gotten away from our core competencies and we’ve taken a long walk down the path of complacency and self-delusion.

        Can such a thing be turned around? Can a prince turn into a frog and back into a prince again? Why not. The first step is looking in the mirror and seeing ourselves as we really are. The second step is mapping out a plan to put the necessary components in place. And the third step is working together to make it happen. None of it is rocket science, but it’s going to take a lot of honesty and a lot of hard work. Are we ready for that yet? Perhaps not. But it won’t be long before we’ll have to be ready whether we like it or not.

        Just as the passengers on the Titanic may not have realized they were really sinking until they felt the cold waters of the North Atlantic, the American people may not realize what has happened to their country until the government can’t borrow any more money. And that day may be coming sooner than anyone thinks.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “We have become confused in our thinking. We can see the faults of others but we can’t see our own. Vladimir Putin put it best, we are suffering from Winner’s Syndrome, and we’ve gotten away from doing what we do best and what put us on top in the first place. As Warren Buffet would say, we’ve gotten away from our core competencies and we’ve taken a long walk down the path of complacency and self-delusion.”

          That is not wrong, but doesn’t speak to the fundamental problem. How did it get this way?

          “The first step is looking in the mirror and seeing ourselves as we really are.”

          And we can’t do that until we expose the fundamental problems. Most of the problems are not as easy to discover as it is when simply deciding to “look in the mirror.”

          • Texas Patriot

            OFM: “That is not wrong, but doesn’t speak to the fundamental problem. How did it get this way? ‘The first step is looking in the mirror and seeing ourselves as we really are.’ And we can’t do that until we expose the fundamental problems. Most of the problems are not as easy to discover as it is when simply deciding to “look in the mirror.”

            The fundamental problem is that we’ve gotten away from the idea of being economically competitive as a nation. And if you want to look under the hood to see what is really going on, you will never find a better expose of the problem and a discussion of possible solutions than Dr. Robert Atkinson’s book, “Innovation Economics: The Race for Global Advantage” (Yale University Press, 2012):

            http://www.amazon.com/Innovation-Economics-Race-Global-Advantage/dp/0300168993/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1387331205&sr=8-1&keywords=Innovation+economics

            And if you have any doubt about that, watch the video of Dr. Atkinson presenting his book in October of last year. It will be the best hour and a half you ever spend.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWM08DzTuhY

            Atkinson talks solely about economic mistakes, but the problem goes far deeper. Unfortunately, we have allowed our educational system to de-emphasize the qualities of competitive psychology and good sportsmanship which were at the heart of American greatness. And if we want to be the greatest nation on earth once again, those are the qualities we need to recover.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            I know, I know, I know…

            The point I’m making is that everyone agrees with you in broad terms. You’re not being precise enough. It’s like saying that the fundamental problem with fat people is that they eat too much. Well, we know. But we need a comprehensive plan of structured exercise and eating. And we need a comprehensive health checkup for the “fat person” before we create those plans. Plus we must monitor results.

            That’s an example on one person. It’s way more complicated than that leading a republic such as ours back to success once you’ve analyzed the root problems. You’re discussing the root problems of the economy in broad terms. I’m saying that the serious fundamental problems are far deeper.

            Or I’ll put it to you another way: If we could clone people and destroy the idiots, we’d dominate again in no time. We obviously don’t want to do that. But what that tells us (if you agree with my statement) is that we know how to succeed, we just don’t know how to lead the population at large to success. We’re being weighed down by a lot of dead weight and we need to deal with that.

            Atkinson is avoiding the root problems too, even though he’s talks about your ideas in more depth. He still doesn’t believe that we have a problem with ideology in this country and that class warfare has led to this condition.

            Is America great because anyone can succeed, that we have the most vibrant and flexible economy (and therefore the greatest chance for upward mobiligy) or is it all a farce that needs to be “transformed?”

            Because our problems are caused by those that want to transform us. We need to get back to what makes us great in the first place and get those “transformers” back on board and away from the class warfare BS. Class warfare operates on “zero sum” calculations about wealth and America is great because our traditional culture fosters synergistic solutions. Communists and other leftists ruin that with lies.

            “Unfortunately, we have allowed our educational system to de-emphasize the qualities of competitive psychology and good sportsmanship which were at the heart of American greatness.”

            Right, You’re getting a little below the surface but still not there. Why have we done this? Class warfare. Social justice definitions. Social justice should be the same as any other kind of justice. What is different about social justice? Answer that question and you’ll understand the fundamental problems in America which can be traced to the delusions of collectivist thinking. Which can justify almost anything that “seems right.” Collectivism destroys our constitution and destroys our competitiveness. It’s stealth evil.

          • Texas Patriot

            OFM: “You’re discussing the root problems of the economy in broad terms. I’m saying that the serious fundamental problems are far deeper.”

            The root problem of our economy is that we have bought the Marxist lie that competition is a bad thing and should be eliminated. And here’s where it gets tricky. Competitive instincts are biologically embedded in all human beings because of billions of years of evolutionary biology, and left unchecked they can easily result in the kind of mass murder we saw from Leftist and Nihilist ideologues in the 20th Century. But the Founding Fathers of America understood very well that free market economics without more was always “red in tooth and claw” and no fit way for people to live.

            What did they do? They embedded the ideals of human rights, human freedom, and human dignity into the very fabric of American idealism in the form of the one founding document that can never be changed: The Declaration of Independence. We can change the constitution, we can change the laws, but we can never change that.

            What does this mean? How can it help us in our present circumstance? Here’s the good news. By combining the ideals of free market economics and human rights, we can forge a competitive juggernaut that is both unbeatable in the global competitive marketplace of the 21st Century, as well as creating an example of people caring about the human rights and human needs of other people. This is what makes America extraordinary. This is what makes America exceptional.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “We have become confused in our thinking. We can see the faults of others but we can’t see our own.”

          I think we’re just as blind to the faults of others as we are to our own faults. In fact we’re far more critical of our own national flaws than we are of anyone else. That’s a huge part of the problem. Huge.

          We’re still great. But in sum, when you add the welfare and corruption, we’re overburdened by delusional ideas. We still hold the recipes for proven success. We have to wake up to reality in every way possible and manage the country better. We’re very successful at everything, including breeding leeches and enemies among our own populations. Therefore in the final sums we look weaker than we should.

  • tanstaafl

    Fold………that’s his pattern.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      If only he had done that in early 2008.

  • david pope

    i am sure that obama really scares china lol. obama is the joke of the world and no one gives him any respect

  • Nina Sage

    Who , in their right mind would allow one of their children to join the military with a man like Obamma as Commander in Chief?Unless the draft is reinstated we’ll be left with a bunch of Sally’s to protect us.