Obama’s Global Warming Regs to Raise Cost of Electricity 80%


The change that people who want to see electricity rates skyrocket voted for. Twice.

Now he’s trying to deliver on his promise.

Obama will announce Tuesday in a speech at Georgetown University that he plans to regulate greenhouse-gas emissions from existing power plants, according to individuals who have been briefed on the plan but asked not to be identified.

What is that going to look like? Here’s an early sample from Obama’s war on energy.

“I was reading the Federal Register footnotes on the proposed greenhouse gas new source performance standards for new electric generating units. In the Register, it says the Department of Energy Technology Laboratory estimates that when the rule becomes final, the technology that the coal industry would have to use to meet the emissions standards would add 80 percent to the cost of electricity. As we move forward, we have to think about the policies and the impact because I for one do believe we need all of the above approach to energy. Green energy alone is not going to get it done.”

But let’s skip forward to coverage.

The NRDC says that existing plants make up 40 percent of the country’s carbon emissions. The plan would cut carbon pollution from existing plants 26 percent by 2020 and 34 percent by 2025. The plan would cost $4 billion

Furthermore, analysis by National Economic Research Associates found that seven major EPA regulations could cost as high as $16.7 billion per year and 887,000 jobs per year.

I guess we were too close to a recovery. Got to put y’all back in some eco-friendly green chains.

  • Drew Lunn

    @Daniel Greenfield

    The effects of climate change justify an increase in the cost of electricity. I for one think the owners of the plants should eat the cost, but if I have to pay so my grand-kids have a place to call home too, so be it. Also, I prefer not to offset the cost of my existence by passing the environmental expenses on to species of lesser fortune. Other species should have rights, as well as ecosystems as whole. I’m sorry that you feel as if you’ve been trodden on, but now you know how every other species on earth feels.

    • OfficialPro

      Wow, an actual batfeces insane enviro nut case! The owners of the plants can’t eat the cost! All costs are actually paid by the CONSUMER, are you somehow ignorant of this? There is no pool of magical money that appears when a person has a business that DOESN’T come from a consumer buying something! Are you insa—oh wait, I think we already established that. You don’t math so well or economics either, it looks like. No, other species don’t get “rights”. They cannot speak, they cannot rationalize, they cannot debate, and they cannot represent themselves, nor can they communicate to a level that would give their “opinion” (which doesn’t exist by virtue of their lack of sapience) clearly to any human being, let alone credibility.

      I think you’d better listen to people like Dr. Roy Spencer and Dr. Timothy Ball, both of whom are Climatologists and can tell you just how mistaken you are.

      • jfreed27

        Wish you were right!!

      • objectivefactsmatter

        The rich will pay for it all. When we catch them.

        Just visualize the perfect future and send the bill to “the rich” or the nearest “Joos” can pay.

        That’s how it works. Ask Marx. He got it all worked out a long time ago of you vampires would just listen and cough up that money you stole from the poor.

      • Drew Lunn

        How can a person take your response seriously when half of the words in it are not words at all. “I don’t math so well?” Give me a break. I’m no math genius but I am in college statistics at the moment. Does that count?

        Just as an FYI, plants do communicate, as well as animals. I’m not so sure you possess “sapience” either, as you’ve no wisdom to speak of.

    • chan chan

      Heh heh. That’s funny, a really clever parody of a greenie’s ramblings.

      • OfficialPro

        I think it’s not a parody. I think that guy actually believes the crap he’s spewing.

    • jfreed27

      I agree. A carbon fee would return all fees to the citizens. Yet, it just
      might stop our mindless blunder into the climate abyss. But $100 million buys a lot of junk skepticism. So it is probably too late. O well, as a species we had a pretty good run. Sorry we were such idiots, future generations!

      • ziggy zoggy

        Yes, the last sixteen years of stable global temperatures is about to end and mankind will go extict due to balmy weather.

        • Drew Lunn

          Please do enlighten us with more than one or two crack science articles about the stability of global temperatures. Also, please try and find an actual peer-reviewed scientific journal, not some hack journalist working for the Koch brothers.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “But $100 million buys a lot of junk skepticism.”

        Junk skepticism. I see. The burden of proof is on the skeptics. This is clearly the position of the left.

        “O well, as a species we had a pretty good run. Sorry we were such idiots, future generations!”

        If only stupity was immediately fatal we wouldn’t be in this mess. The mess of having delusional idiots destroying everything.

        • jfreed27

          We in the science community have offered plenty of evidence and have had it published in peer-reviewed journals. Your move.

          • OfficialPro

            Oh, because Dr. Roy Spencer isn’t peer-reviewed, right? AMIRITE? Pfffft.
            ‘We in the scientific community’ sounds an awful lot like an appeal to authority fallacy. WHICH peer reviewed journals are you talking about? Which articles? Who wrote them? Who published them? How do we know they didn’t take money from George Soros and have about as much credibility as that guy that said vaccines cause autism?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “We in the science community have offered plenty of evidence and have had it published in peer-reviewed journals.”

            What I have seen is not compelling. But then again if you had data that was compelling you’d link to it. Such “slam dunk” data must be featured prominently on Al Gore’s web sites. If it existed.

            “Your move.”

            Waiting for your opening move. Still. Accuser serves.

            I guess that makes me guilty of “junk skepticism” because I won’t make it my job to wade through ALL of the incomplete and biased studies.

            There are some minor, legitimate issues that are being discovered Those in some cases are local or regional issues. Most of what we hear from politicians and policy advocates about what we need to “act on” is alarmist rhetoric used to serve leftist totalitarian agendas, whether or not you’re aware of this.

            How much more “warming” can we tolerate? What caused the “ice age?” Why not find out a bit more before destroying the American economy and allowing our enemies to grow stronger as they gain from our collective stupidity?

          • Drew Lunn

            Our “collective stupidity” is exemplified each and every time you communicate your views.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Our “collective stupidity” is exemplified each and every time you communicate your views.”

            Good one. I hope when you get out of high school your parents let you have more time on the bike.

            Good luck with that.

          • Drew Lunn

            Yeah! I’m on my way to a bachelors, but good effort.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Yeah! I’m on my way to a bachelors, but good effort.”

            LOL. So you’re ALMOST ready to rule the world.

            You’re so savvy. Forward!

    • ziggy zoggy

      Droolin (stupid screen name,) how is our unendangered “eco system” going to improve if you hand the bill for your graft to your grandchildren? Is that your idea of evolution based on natural selection? Survival of the fattest?

      • Drew Lunn

        Just an FYI but the theories of Social Darwinism have been debunked.

        • Drew Lunn

          Also, Drew Lunn is my actual name. On the other hand, Ziggy Zoggy is quite the intelligent moniker…

      • Drew Lunn

        Also, judging by the proportions of your face, it is you who is fat. I, on the other hand, ride close to 100 miles a week on my bike. Cheers fatty.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “Also, judging by the proportions of your face, it is you who is fat. I, on the other hand, ride close to 100 miles a week on my bike. Cheers fatty.”

          400 miles a month means you need to be an extraordinary specimen if you want to hang with the serious cyclists. Those had better be some high quality miles or I wouldn’t advise bragging and haranguing with that as your justification.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “The effects of climate change justify an increase in the cost of electricity.”

      It’s self-evident. All of my friends in Berkeley say so. What more evidence is needed?

      “Other species should have rights, as well as ecosystems as whole. I’m sorry that you feel as if you’ve been trodden on, but now you know how every other species on earth feels.”

      Everyone pays the price for stupidity and the promised “benefits” are often not as promised. Check your history.

      • OfficialPro

        Someone should tell that guy that species of the earth don’t “feel” in the manner he imagines they do.

        • Drew Lunn

          Citation?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Seriously? You think that animals can feel “trodden on” the way that humans might?

            If you’re serious, let me know.

            Firstly, most humans that feel “trodden upon” by tyrannical politicians feel that way because of their response to reports. Not by direct observation.

            That rules out every other animal right there, no matter what your theories are for the emotions of various animals.

            So please. Grow up.

      • Drew Lunn

        I live in Portland Oregon, not Berzerkely. If you’d like to have a conversation about history as well, I’d be more than happy to share my expertise. If you’re curious where my information comes from, check your local university’s library.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “If you’d like to have a conversation about history as well…”

          Please do carry on.

  • SoCalMike

    This is all about feeding parasites and giving them control.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “This is all about feeding parasites and giving them control.”

      The oceans have garbage in them. Put me in charge of everything and I’ll fix it all. How could you even think something could go wrong with my comprehensive plan to “fix things?”

      • OfficialPro

        Burn garbage for electricity! Let’s outfit some trawlers to gather garbage from the ocean and ferry it to some beehive burners. Problem solved!

        • objectivefactsmatter

          Listen, we all know that’s not going to be enough. Until I’m in charge of the world, it’ impossible to solve any of these problems.

          And once I do, you’ll never have to pay for anything again. Your lives will be idyllic and I’ve already arranged for a plan to have the rich pay for it. Until communism is fully operational.

          Hope and change.

  • MarilynA

    Once again man has reached the point here he thinks he is smarter than God. God created nature so it could heal itself. For every action there is a reaction. The more people, the more carbon dioxide which stimulates plant growth so there is more food. When the eruption of one volcano puts as much pollution into the atmosphere as man has in the past 100 years, You can figure the chances that all this expensive experimentation being successful in changing the climate will be slim and none. But it will probably lower the population as people freeze to death because they can’t afford to heat their homes.

    • Naresh Krishnamoorti

      Exactly.

    • sherwool

      “The more people, the more carbon dioxide which stimulates plant growth so there is more food. ”

      Especially at a time when you are cutting down the earth’s forests. Yup.

      Truly you are a woman without a clue.

      • MarilynA

        The US now has more forests than it has had in years. Our lumber industry has been practically shut down for over 30 years. that is the reason most of our building materials are imported. Most of our lumber comes from Canada. If you don’t already know it, trees reforest themselves by dropping seeds. When you cut a tree another one usually replaces it. Don’t they teach this fact of life in our dumbed down propaganda factories called public schools? Talking about not having a clue!

      • MarilynA

        I served on the board of Directors of a National “Environmental” Org. for over 5 years during which time this Global warming scare was dreamed up. the reason for zeroing in on the environment was because it was believed it would be the cause under which they could organize the most people to support their agenda, which was to undermine Capitalism, our government and prove that Capitalism was worse than Communism/Socialism which had just failed in the USSR. Notice how the left is doing everything it can to insure China replaces the USA as the world’s leader? I not only do I have a clue, I know for a fact what is behind all these scare tactics.

    • http://www.americord.com/bulk-wire.html Albert Barkley

      I am agree with you. I am just thinking that if the cost of electricity is rises up to 80% then this would also increase the costs of electric appliances as like Power Cords

  • trapper

    Cheap and abundant energy is a necessary condition for a viable economy and country. These Leftists are so stupid they don’t understand that. (I have long seen Leftism reduce its adherents to stupidity–believing enviro nonsense creates sheep like stupidity).

  • http://www.russgeorge.net/ russ george

    There is a real CO2 crisis it just isn’t what we’ve been spoon fed.

    The recent leveling off of global warming is not evidence against the long term trend of warming.

    A more plausible reason that in our high and rising CO2 world “warming” is leveling off has to be the result of a countervailing driver. That CO2 driven counter force is the role CO2 has on enhancing plant growth (not necessarily a good thing) and at the same time reducing plant losses of water to the air.

    The warming models all assumed that CO2 would drive slight rises in temperature that would drive large rises in water vapour in the air from evaporation. Given water vapour is the much more potent greenhouse gas compared to CO2 it was/is the expected extra water vapour that would produce the sustained warming that has failed to show up.

    Herein lies the blunder of the climate physicists and their models. Just as one would expect the slow pace of CO2 plant changes take decades to be revealed in the global picture. Plants are responsible for more water vapour in the air than is temperature driven evaporation. The plants have dramatically slowed their contribution of water vapour and the warming slows.

    Here’s a link to more on this…http://russgeorge.net/2013/06/11/why-climate-models-fail/

    The good news is that the 500 million ton reduction of CO2 that the coal industry might be asked to accomplish doesn’t need to cost billions. Restoring ocean plant life can do that much and far more for mere millions and in the bargain bring back the fish. Here’s how it could work http://russgeorge.net/2013/04/28/greenfinger-speaks/