Only Countries Where Atheists Face Death are Muslim


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Must be the theocracy of Islamic law that the left is so keen on importing into America and Europe.

In 13 countries around the world, all of them Muslim, people who openly espouse atheism or reject the official state religion of Islam face execution under the law, according to a detailed study issued on Tuesday.

A first survey of 60 countries last year showed just seven where death, often by public beheading, is the punishment for either blasphemy or apostasy – renouncing belief or switching to another religion which is also protected under U.N. accords.

But this year’s more comprehensive study showed six more, bringing the full list to Afghanistan, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen.

But it’s almost as bad in the West? Right.

The IHEU, which has member bodies in some 50 countries and supporters in many more where such organizations are banned, said there was systematic or severe discrimination against atheists across the 27-nation European Union.

The situation was severe in Austria, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Malta and Poland where blasphemy laws allow for jail sentences up to three years on charges of offending a religion or believers.

The actual IHEU report cites Poland, other Eastern European countries and Greece for launching actual prosecutions, none of them carrying any major jail time.

Then it mentions Italy prosecuting Oriana Fallaci for offending Muslims. It mentions four cases in Austria, three of which involved Muslims.

So even Western European countries where blasphemy laws are an issue, they are mainly an issue for people who criticize Islam.

  • A Z

    Jerry Doyle interviewed a psychologist who said research has shown some people can get PTSD from watching the news. I am not going to believe any old person who is a member of the APA , but this person sounded competent.

    How many people on the left still fear The Moral Majority (no longer operating) and Pat Robertson. These people have PTSD and have been conditioned to think Christians (along with a few Jews) are the major problem in the world.

    Of course they are not going to see the Muslim threat.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      they’ve been conditioned into it because that’s the left’s agenda

      • A Z

        I looked the moral majority up on Wiki. It was founded in 1979 and disbanded in 1989. Yet, there were in the 1990s and are people who are afraid of the Moral Majority (& SNL’s Church Lady) still.

        Any real life Church Lady is more likely to be a member of the LEFT. You have more chance of actually forcing people to live righteously (their view) through legislation and the force of law.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          it’s still a culture war for them

    • A Z

      Got sick & tired of looking at Jerry Doyle’s new website for his interview of the psychologist. So I did a general web search.

      “Can you get PTSD from watching media coverage of an event? Maybe”

      http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-media-coverage-trauma-stress-20131209,0,5260119.story#ixzz2nBb7PuAe

      If you believe this then it is not a stretch to believe that the government and other entities can cause conspiracy theories and mental illness.

      Sometimes watching government actions, the wrong actions, is like watching a horror movie where you know a character is about to get owned and there is nothing that can be done about it. You see them make things worse and you a living a movie in slow motion and there is nothing you can do about it.

      Then there are government reports like the one on the JFK assassination which is sealed for 50 years. No doubt little by little combined with other things makes people go crazy. Certainly people distrust their government. It might go past mistrust and cause some people to pop off.

      ***
      Some people are just going to be kooky if the government did everything right.

  • john spielman

    “the only countries where atheists -( and Christians and Buddhists and Hindus and and Jews and homosexuals and even other Muslims)-face death are Muslim”!

  • DogmaelJones1

    One of the major problems I have with “right-wing” organizations that ostensively promote freedom and civil liberties is that they equate atheism with the left, communism, socialism, and etc. It’s nearly fruitless to argue with them that atheism doesn’t necessarily mean that one is a former Weatherman or in Obama’s administration or an advocate of totalitarianism It’s nearly blasphemy to inform them that while the Founders were nearly all Christians of one stripe or another, they didn’t intend this country to be “Christian,” but secular (which is why they separated church and state). They are especially insulted when one asserts that Communism, Nazism, and other brands of totalitarian collectivism are founded on the secular application of a major Christian tenet: altruism. They either scratch their heads in incomprehension, or get that “hang ‘em high” look in their eyes. This is especially true in the U.S. Former communists and fellow travelers who become Neocons usually also “get religion,” as well. The Tea Party’s membership is largely, openly, and oft times noisily “Christian.” Fortunately, the only “punishment” an atheist receives in the U.S. is social and/or intellectual ostracism, although the Pat Robertsons and Billy Grahams and their ilk are itching to impose penalties nearly as severe as those imposed in Muslim countries.

    • A Z

      I am married to a Buddhist. I have never seen them ostracized. I do not fear Christians. The most I have seen is an hours worth of arm twisting over 3 decades ago about joining the church (one of about a dozen or more in a town). All that was needed was “uh huh”, “yah”, “sure”, and out the door they went. No confrontation was needed. Neither did they get ant purchase with their arguments.

      If America was so bad about Christianity and ostracism how is that a homosexual man survived in a new England town in post Revolution America? Guy goes after the stable boys and others who tell the town fathers. The town fathers tell him to stop and he doesn’t. He keeps hitting on people. The guy was ostracized. Yet he was not tarred and feathered or run out on a rail. If Christians were as bad as you say they were, they would have had a hanging.

      • DogmaelJones1

        Times have changed since the post-Revolutionary period. As an atheist (and certainly not a homosexual) I speak from experience. Americans just can’t get it through their heads that being “Godless” doesn’t necessarily mean that one is amoral or an immoral brute. One can be an atheist and in a room full of Christians, Jews, Buddhists (and even Muslims) and be the most moral man present.

        • A Z

          Things come and go. People constantly have to exert pressure.

          Slavery is not a thing of the past and something that could never happen again. If people do not push back slavery can happen all over again to give an example.
          In our world it would start as wage slavery.

          The same goes for religious persecution. Still I am not fearing any Christians that I have been around or any national Christian figures.

          Muslims though that is another matter.

          There are a lot of atheists out there who now that they are feeling their oats are just plain d/cks.

        • Eric Siverson

          Was your mother and father grand mother and great grandparents also atheists. the bible says you could be blessed for 10 generations . That maybe what has been protecting you .

    • Softly Bob

      Karl Marx said that religion is the opium of the masses, so yes I thinks it’s fair to equate Socialism and Communism with Atheism.

      • DogmaelJones1

        No, it isn’t “fair” to equate Socialism and Communism with atheism. In fact, it’s illogical. There are lots of religious folks who endorse either ideology, so that they have a ghost to defer to and then the State, in the person of its vaunted leader. Germans treated Hitler as a kind of deity, and Russians Stalin, and Italians Mussolini. Same thing happened with Mao with the Chinese. Atheism, or the disbelief in an invisible supreme being, doesn’t necessarily lead to totalitarianism. Totalitarians and their ideology simply substitute God with an all-powerful, all-knowing mortal. They’re not really atheists. They believe in the mystique of muscle, of force, of collectivism, to make their programs “work.” Whether Obama is a Christian or a Muslim, is irrelevant. He believes in the efficacy of force. That makes him a wannabe totalitarian and a mystic.

        • Drakken

          Those who believe in nothing, fall for anything and are willing to follow them into the abyss and commit genocides against their own out of blind faith of a demi-god like figure, hence you get a Stalin, Hitler and Mao. Good and evil exist and trust me, there are no atheist in foxholes.

          • DogmaelJones1

            There is in this one, and that’s the end of my thread here. Good night.

          • DJ

            Well, I’m an atheist and I spent time in a foxhole. I don’t “believe in nothing” either, I understand how natural selection shaped the species we see today, how every piece of life on earth has a common ancestor (it’s a fact just as 2+2=4 is a fact). That’s the difference…”belief” in what can’t be proven and “knowing” what is true and HAS been proven. There is no supernatural sky fairy, no heaven, just our short life here on this earth. You can choose to be good, moral and live your life to the fullest, or be a religious fundamentalist and waste your life on meaningless crap. Your choise.

        • Biff Henderson

          ”O” ye who believe. ask not questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble—– some people before you did ask such questions and on that account lost their faith in islam. – Sura 5:101-102

          Taking into account the inference of this sura aren’t all Mohammadanians blind-faith mystics?

          • DogmaelJones1

            This is true. They’re all blind-faith mystics. Their minds have been smothered and reason is no longer their guide. They don’t dare think or question their faith. I call them manqués, or the Borg, or the Walking Dead.

          • Biff Henderson

            The basis of their faith is a denial of intellect and yet they use all the powers of their intellect to convince non-Muslims to deny their intellect for Allah.

          • DogmaelJones1

            This anti-mind technique was demonstrated by Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged, chiefly in the characters of Simon Pritchett and Floyd Ferris.

          • Biff Henderson

            I am not familiar with the characters you speak of. Individuals that have been ostracized for refusing to bend to the tenants of a belief system foisted upon them by a psychologically coercive environment do beak away and thrive. Manipulation and retention are two separate animals. Retention of the cult of Islam’s members depends on the death penalty for apostates. The head of the Muslim Brotherhood Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi admitted as much when he stated on Egyptian television, “If They [Muslims] Had Gotten Rid of the Punishment for Apostasy, Islam Would Not Exist Today” The Islamic Sword of Damocles, i.e., Sharia Law, dangles over the heads of the Best of People. Often times fear trumps free will and suffering in silence is the only recourse of an unimaginative mind.

          • DogmaelJones1

            I highly recommend reading the novel I referred to.

          • Biff Henderson

            I swore off reading fiction 40 years ago and pissed and moaned every time university course work force/s my hand. Having returned to university to study cinematography I’ve learned being required to critique my youthful classmates fiction is far worse.

          • DogmaelJones1

            Atlas Shrugged was published in 1957. It has sold about a million copies a year since then. It is about what happens when the men of the mind go on strike against the government and the moral philosophy that allows it to enslave them. They simply vanish, leaving the country to collapse and learn the lesson the hard way — as is happening now and has been happening for the last few decades. It’s a nonpareil dramatization of the power of ideas.

          • Biff Henderson

            Took the time to peruse Objectivism on Wiki. You can pack in powerful truths and come up with silly conclusions. The variables that Rand dismisses put me at odds with this school of thought.

    • Drakken

      Here let me help you out with your little atheism problem, ole Pat Roberson and Billy Graham may give you a head ache and some of their followers often do, but they aren’t going to kill you for belief or no belief, the musaloids and their leftist communist enablers and Quislings will kill you if given an opportunity to do so, see, made it all better and simple for you.

      • DogmaelJones1

        Dear Drakken: I won’t argue this further. Go here and see if I know what I’m talking about. Read any of the columns. I’ve been writing about Islam and Muslims for years, probably longer than you’ve even been aware of Islam. Then come back to me with your condescending remarks if you dare. http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/2013/12/gun-controls-are-you-reliable.html

        • Drakken

          I was islamoaware on the morning of Oct 23 1983, when was your awaking ?

    • Habbgun

      Like it or not Atheism is of the left. Since the Divine Right of Kings came through the Church breaking down religion was seen as political. Atheists have used the same techniques against other religions asserting terms such as patriarchy, etc. as the purpose of the religion and not belief in a deity. Yeah, Rand is different but not in the way you think. If someone comes from the Soviet Union but absolutely embraces atheism she is not the free thinker you think she is. She did not say I have doubts she said all religion is restrictive. To see western success but reject that maybe religion contributed to it is very problematic. Very. I’ll trust Hashem, you can keep faith in Ayn.

  • A Z

    There is no free speech in Europe. People who criticize Islam or homosexuality get fined or go to jail.

    “Danish free speech debate turns nasty”

    http://www.d-intl.com/2013/12/03/danish-free-speech-debate-turns-nasty/?lang=en

    The attached photograph is of one of the persecuted. I am not sure why it was chosen for the article other than to get as many clicks as the MSM gets when they do the same thing/