Pakistan Calls Bin Laden Raid “Greatest Humiliation Since 1971″

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.


Pakistan

Pakistan seems to have forgotten about International Guerrillas (1990) which is arguably a far greater humiliation than either one. Also Pakistan has repeatedly taken home the Nobel Prize in Corruption and is best known as a place where people throw acid at little girls for knowing how to read.

But everyone has their priorities.

The US raid that killed Osama Bin Laden at his secret compound in Pakistan amounted to an “American act of war” against the South Asian country, a government investigation into the operation has found.

That might be true if it wasn’t for the fact that harboring Bin Laden was an act of war by Pakistan. You can’t have an act of war long after the initial act of war had been committed. It’s like calling the Doolittle Raid on Japan an act of war.

Pakistan’s Abbottabad Commission, set up to probe the raid and previous efforts to capture the Al-Qaeda leader, delivered a trenchant condemnation of the US decision to unilaterally launch the operation inside Pakistani territory without seeking permission from the government in Islamabad. It painted the United States as an “arrogant” military power disdainful of the rights of other nations, over which it would ride roughshod in pursuit of its security goals.

Good point.

Coming from a country that fulfills its security goals by arming and training terrorists and then sending them into India. Maybe the ISI can give us some riding roughshod tips.

The commission’s report – leaked by Al Jazeera on Monday – denounced the US action as the “greatest humiliation” suffered by Pakistan since 1971, when East Pakistan seceded to form Bangladesh.

And unlike that humiliation, Pakistan has yet to carry out mass killings and rapes of the civilian population to avenge it.

“When the raid was happening, the report reveals, the provincial police chief’s only response was to sit at home and watch television.”

Sounds reasonable. It was either catch the next episode of Pakistani Idol or get blown away by Navy SEALS.

“Either OBL was extremely fortunate to not run into anyone committed to doing his job honestly,” the report notes, referring to bin Laden by his initials, “or there was a complete collapse of governance.”

Or… you know. The Pakistan government knew exactly what it was doing.

  • Atlzbest

    common sense question: with India sitting next door – does and can Pakistan sit without knowing what happens at its borders? how did Pakistan manage to launch an F-16 within 4 minutes when an Indian training aircraft infiltrated the Punjab air space but had no clue about the BL raid? – Common sense questions that require common sense – but from your arcticle seems like common sense is becoming extinct with “reporters” these days

    • Nabuquduriuzhur

      most “reporters” were the worst of the worst party animals in college. When I was in college in the late 1990s, the typical journalist was drunk or stoned half the time, showed up for class half the time, mainly studied amateur intoxicants chemistry and hands-on biology.

      They typically were rich kids and had never done anything.

      Despite all that, they were going to “save the world”. Think about that: fools with a mindset that they are going to save the world.

      I’m convinced that the “ugly american myth” is mostly because of the stupid way our reporters act in other countries. Get drunk in a muslim country, gee, why am I in trouble? Lie about some local leader and gee, why am I so hated now? Seduce some lady or man who is betrothed to be married and then they wonder why they get rocks thrown at them.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “I’m convinced that the “ugly american myth” is mostly because of the stupid way our reporters act in other countries.”

        In most countries, only the elites can travel. In America, and now more and more in other countries the middle class can travel and the host assume these are the elites.

        But the myth goes back to the fact that fat middle aged people could walk up and down major capital cities in Europe dripping ice cream, while the hosts-at-large just naturally assumed these were the cream of American society after the movie stars. And a lot of those movies stars are not exactly the sharpest of tools.

        Tourists from America are far more visible than reporters are.

    • alericKong

      Foreign F-16 will leave a signature on the heavily watched border with India who they’ve had wars with before. The SEALS hid in helicopter traffic, flying low in an isolated rural wasteland with stealth techonology.

  • Ulrick

    I’d be humiliated to if the world’s most infamous international terrorist was hiding right under my nose and another country had to get him for me. But that’s of course, assuming Pakistan had any intention of finding and turning him in.

    • Nabuquduriuzhur

      The Pakistanis knew. They were hiding him. If they’d been honest, there would have been no need for the raid.

  • 1Indioviejo1

    The Pakistanis should hang their heads in shame. After 9/11/2001 and many billions of dollars from us, they sheltered a mass murderer while bitting the hand that feeds them. The bottom line is that Pakistan is the ENEMY. Islam is the ENEMY.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Like any other Islamic society, you can’t have honest debate where you criticize Islam or any powerful Muslim. You have to blame non-Muslims. End of story. At least until you arrive in any of the few remaining free societies.

      “Islam is the ENEMY”

      Islam is also their enemy, they just don’t realize it or have the freedom to articulate any awareness about that fact.

    • Syed Ali

      True if Pakistan is the enemy then for what you are lending yourself here in Pakistan. Shame on you, we helped you from day one and today you are trying to defame us. OBL was in Pakistan and we were unaware of this is like 3 planes were hijacked and hit with your buildings and you as a nation were sleeping. Ahhhhhh

      Pakistan Zindabaad

      • alericKong

        OBL was in the middle of a military college.
        ISI aids Taliban to ambush and blow up US soldiers.
        Pakistan then feigns outrage.
        9/11 hijackers lied and took advantage of corrupt politicians who will bring in any piece of trash just to win a vote.

        The smartest thing we can do is stop giving the third world money and let everyone die of the plague.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “True if Pakistan is the enemy then for what you are lending yourself here in Pakistan.”

        We (some times foolishly rush in to) want peace with any nation that can live with it.

        “Shame on you, we helped you from day one and today you are trying to defame us.”

        Not sure which factions you’re speaking for, but there are clearly many powerful enemies of the USA working in your government.

        Who is trying to defame who?

        “OBL was in Pakistan and we were unaware of this…”

        Speak for yourself.

        “…is like 3 planes were hijacked and hit with your buildings and you as a nation were sleeping. Ahhhhhh”

        Yeah, just like it. Not.

        • Syed Ali

          You are good in words but very bad in history and keeping the incidents in your mind.
          Who produced these terrorists? They were your friends. And as Pakistani, i am sure they are friends of Israel and US. Many in the world are trying to play double game. And if Pakistan do then shame …….ahhhh.

          One question, why did you through his dead body in the sea…….think and you will have many answers (many stories) and this is called double game. Dear no one is your enemy at least we are not your enemy but you are making your enemies (drone attack).

          One last update for you, how many wanted terrorists have been killed by your Army. Please check how many wanted (by US) have been killed by our Army.

          For understanding of double game, please read what Indian did with Mumby Attacks. They blamed Pakistan in UN for these attacks and now their officer said it was to pass the terrorist law, defame Pakistan and to do this they (Indians) planned and executed this attack in their own country.

          I will urge stop thinking against Pakistan, we did and are doing our best, sacrificed the most, and thoughts which you have compels us a Nation that we must have not helped you in war against terrorism.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Who produced these terrorists?”

            Which ones? We stupidly trusted jihadis in their national liberation movement in Afghanistan. It was stupid to ignore the duplicity one must always look out for when dealing with enemies of civilization, even when they claim only to want liberation from communists.

            “They were your friends.”

            If that’s the most nuanced label you can come up with, stick to chess. Global politics are way over your head.

            “And as Pakistani, i am sure they are friends of Israel and US. Many in the world are trying to play double game. And if Pakistan do then shame…….ahhhh.”

            Yes, you are an enemy if you play against us. That part is simple. We should hold you to the same standards we hold others to. In fact you get away with more duplicity than most “friends” which is why Pakistan is referred to as a fr-enemy.

            “One question, why did you through his dead body in the sea.”

            I don’t think that should have happened. The actual answer might be due to 0′Bama’s loyalties to Sunni Islam and the global caliphate movement. We may never know but it wasn’t my idea I assure you and it defies all American principles under the circumstances.

            “..think and you will have many answers (many stories) and this is called double game.”

            Those are called unknown variables. That’s the nature of the real world.

            “Dear no one is your enemy at least we are not your enemy…”

            Whether or not you are an enemy, there are certainly jihadis in Pakistan working against us and aligned more or less with the desire for a regional or global Sunni caliph.

            “…but you are making your enemies (drone attack).”

            Whatever. If we’re killing enemies with drones, that’s part of war. The problem with the drones is that it makes it difficult for the public to verify what is happening.

            In our country, reporters are allowed to investigate and publish. With drones, pilots can be operating from anywhere and reporters can’t always figure out who to ask about a particular campaign. Pilots flying in the planes can always be instructed to keep silent, but just by observing their movements we can verify quite a bit of information. The public gets a lot less info on the drone attacks. It’s too easy for our government to lie about the drones. With a POTUS as we have now, that’s a big concern.

            “One last update for you, how many wanted terrorists have been killed by your Army. Please check how many wanted (by US) have been killed by our Army.”

            If I don’t trust our government and its reports, do you suppose I’ll trust yours?

            “For understanding of double game, please read what Indian did with Mumby Attacks. They blamed Pakistan in UN for these attacks and now their officer said it was to pass the terrorist law, defame Pakistan and to do this they (Indians) planned and executed this attack in their own country.”

            Uh huh. You’re a dupe of the globalists (communists and their dupes).

            “I will urge stop thinking against Pakistan, we did and are doing our best, sacrificed the most, and thoughts which you have compels us a Nation that we must have not helped you in war against terrorism.”

            Dude, I’m not a collectivist. I don’t hate Pakistanis. I simply recognize that culturally, the currents in Pakistan flow against Western civilization. There’s plenty of irrational hatred. There are networks of jihadis in all levels of government. Just look at the behaviors we all saw on 9/11/2012 and for weeks after. Obviously there are irrational jihadis all over the world that are our enemies because they want to emulate Mohamed. Some of these people are in positions of power where they live. Those facts are undeniable.

            It’s not about nationalism. I don’t have any problem with Pakistani nationalism at all. I have a problem with Islamic jihadi culture and the behaviors driven by that culture and the often evil outcomes.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “The US raid that killed Osama Bin Laden at his secret compound in Pakistan amounted to an “American act of war” against the South Asian country, a government investigation into the operation has found.”

    Call it what you want. What’s your next move? Still cashing those checks?

    • Syed Ali

      Who asked you to give us checks?

      • alericKong

        It’s our fault now for you spending our money.

        That’s a new one.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          It makes sense to those indoctrinated in Islam and “social justice” (communism).

          • alericKong

            Every notice how they just throw their garbage in piles in their homes? Not just old newspapers or boxes, but food and biological waste.

            I feel we’re missing the plot on how to fight foreign enemies. Pakis need money to keep nukes active. Remove the money, their nukes degrade, and then the monsters tear each other apart on their own.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Every notice how they just throw their garbage in piles in their homes? Not just old newspapers or boxes, but food and biological waste.”

            They have no reason not to according to their beliefs. They don’t even really believe in microbiology because Mo told them all they need to know about being “clean.”

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “I feel we’re missing the plot on how to fight foreign enemies. Pakis need money to keep nukes active. Remove the money, their nukes degrade, and then the monsters tear each other apart on their own.”

            Yeah, but there’s a lot that could go wrong with such a strategy.

            Throwing away all of our nukes unilaterally while funding the Pakis is as dumb as it gets for those not planning to live under the rule of a global caliph. And they’re not even the worst. The man on the street is just as crazy, but the government is not as bad as certain others frenemy regimes.

            We should strive to improve our relations with India. That’s a win-win for the West that most modern leaders seem to overlook. I guess they’re afraid of offending China and the jihadis. As if that matters.

          • alericKong

            Not our nukes, theirs.

            In fact, next earthquake, release stuxnet 2 which detonates a couple of them and kills them with their own criminality.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Not our nukes, theirs.”

            I understand. Tell 0′Bama.

            “In fact, next earthquake, release stuxnet 2 which detonates a couple of them and kills them with their own criminality.”

            You might as well just send nuclear tipped cruise missiles. But then we’d be no better than them.

            There are no easy answers at this point. That is precisely why our handling of Iran is inexcusable. Iran is infinitely more dangerous than Pakistan.

          • Syed Ali

            If at all this is the case to keep the nukes active, then is it you only who want our nukes to remain active? Hmmmmm please stop giving us your checks, many other countries must be their who really want to see our active nukes.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “If at all this is the case to keep the nukes active, then is it you only who want our nukes to remain active?”

            Again, we’re forcing you to do things you don’t want. Building nukes, cashing unwanted checks…oh the endless grievances!

            “Hmmmmm please stop giving us your checks..”

            And you speak for who in Pakistan?

            “…many other countries must be their who really want to see our active nukes.”

            Yep. They’re Sunni too. Hmmm. See a pattern?

          • alericKong

            Nope.

            Money originally was to end the Soviet Union, whose existed only to destroy the US.

            Now it goes to build infrastructure like hospitals and power plants and in some cases military aid when countries are suppose to be allies. The money is interchanged, freeing up regimes to run secret weapon programs and proliferate nukes in North Korea and Iran thanks to AQ Khan, your national hero.

            Before the 1940s, the US was extremly isolated and did what you say. We got Pearl Harbor as thanks.

            Since then we have lived under a big government liberal foreign policy run by fools who love to spend other people’s money. We’ve open the floodgates to the sewers of the world and got 9/11, $16 trillion in debt, and Democratic political machines ruining our best cities as a thank you.

            I myself see the futility of helping those who don’t ask for it. Your comments prove it. All this talk of conspiracy and double game is psychotic. To a liar, the world is a lie.

          • Syed Ali

            There should be no doubt that AQ is our national hero. He did very well for Pakistan and later did bad. So these two things should not be mixed up to ruin his achievements.

            For your sentences ” All this talk of conspiracy and double game is psychotic. To a liar, the world is a lie.” I will say look who is talking and what he is talking”.

            First you should accept your faults and then ask other for the acceptance of their faults.

            Anyhow, if i was unable to convenience you then please keep it up, i am no one to ask you for the change in your life, thoughts, etc.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        Your government. And they’re the ones who cash them. They’re the ones who would grant or deny permission for the attack on bin Laden, declare war, etc.

        So what’s your point then?

      • OfficialPro

        US is giving Pakistan billions in foreign aid. I have no idea who asked for it.

  • Syed Ali

    I am leaving this discussion with a hope that you all must think on positive lines and avoid prejudice approach about our country. Live in Peace and Let Others to live in Peace. Love and respect from Pakistan.

    • OfficialPro

      Pakistanis are just fine. My favorite (expatriot) Pakistani is Tarek Fatah. (who immigrated to and now lives in Canada)

  • Syed Ali