Rand Paul: Christians Want to Fight Wars for the “Chosen People”


Rand Paul, Ron Paul

As I’ve always said, Rand Paul is Ron Paul with more subtlety. Sometimes. And other times he’s about as subtle as his father.

In an interview with Buzzfeed’s McKay Coppins, Kentucky senator Rand Paul criticized “some” Christians who support Israel and the Jews and those Christians’ “overeagerness” to go to war. Adding to sentiments he expressed in a speech earlier this year, Paul told Buzzfeed:

I think some within the Christian community are such great defenders of the promised land and the chosen people that they think war is always the answer, maybe even preemptive war. And I think it’s hard to square the idea of a preemptive war and, to me, that overeagerness [to go to] war, with Christianity.

The United States has never fought a war to protect Israel. Never. It will never fight such a war.

Israel lacks two vital elements. Oil and Islam.

Last time I checked, the last bunch of wars have been about protecting Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, with some rhetoric about Israel occasionally thrown in to appeal to the voters.

The current war being discussed is Syria. It’s being fought to protect the Sunni rebels and the Muslim Brotherhood’s takeover of Syria. And somehow I doubt they’re the “chosen people” that Paul means.

Paul could have just said that some Christians are eager defenders of Israel. But going with “Chosen People”. Well a Paul is a Paul.

  • Jakareh

    It’s because of things like this that my dream right-wing president is Ted Cruz, not Rand Paul.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      And doesn’t just equate them, but spins the whole thing into a Blame American Foreign Policy for terror angle

      • Felix Keverich

        Zionist scum! Your kind is only loyal to Israel.

        • SIlver Gonzales

          Go put a burka on your mother’s head and bow down to Alla in the middle of traffic.

          ALL OF THE MIIDDLE EAST WARS HAVE BEEN TO PROTECT THE ROYAL SAUDI FAMILY. ALL POLITICIANS ARE ON THEIR PAYROLL.

          GO MOVE TO AN ARAB COUNTRY SUCH AS FRANCE OR THE UK

        • benjabo1machal

          You Nazi’s are only faithful to Hitler, return to your bunker, you coward

          • gadsdengurl

            When the people of a country have been subject to a gov’t that declared itself a ‘superior’ race, then stole property of other kinds of people before putting them in gulags, it does not give them a right to do this SAME THING to others!

          • Daniel Greenfield

            I assume you’ll be moving back to Europe then?

          • Jakareh

            Anyone who would imply that Israel treats Arab squatters the same way that the SS treated European Jews has neither integrity nor any connection to reality.

          • Manaphy

            No, it is you Jews who are cowards. You set the whole middle-east aflame, start pointless wars with every Islamic country in the world, then you blame White people and hide behind America while calling anyone and everyone in your lines of sight “anti-Semites”. What a Joke you people are.

          • gray_man

            Numbskull every war with Israel was started by islamic scum. Your’e just mad because you losers cannot win against a country one hundredth of your size.

        • iluvisrael

          keep goosestepping in your momma’s basement you loser

        • Daniel Greenfield

          Paul supporters are just the loveliest people

          • Felix Keverich

            Fight your own damn wars, you pathetic parasite!

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Last time I checked Israel has always fought its own wars.

            Might want to direct that message to Kuwait.

          • benjabo1machal

            I dare a coward, such as yourself, to tell us, where & when an American Soldier every lost his life defending Israel
            One thing I can say is that loonies have done a find job of killing each other, World Ward One, World War 2, too bad that you weren’t one of the fatalities
            Google “Hayam Solomon” you damn ignorant anti-Semite!!

          • gadsdengurl

            They are because they respect everyone’s right to exist not just some….

          • Daniel Greenfield

            Yes, if there’s anything Paul supporters are noted for it’s their tolerance.

        • benjabo1machal

          Time to shut your stupid mouth!!
          If it weren’t for Hayam Solomon & his JEWISH FRIENDS ( Revelutionary War)
          supplying the money for the Colonies to buy arms from Europe, there would be no United States, for lunatics such as yourself to rant from
          Learn some history before making a fool of yourself

        • gray_man

          Guess what? God is loyal to Israel. And when the Messiah comes, he will stomp on the neck of islam.

      • gadsdengurl

        Only a simpleton would interpret this as blame America. Yes we blame the GOVERNMENT for being run by others and not the people… who do NOT want involvement.

    • gadsdengurl

      The Pauls have the ONLY foreign policy that makes sense. Let’s not let our FP be driven by foreign banks and their lobbies.
      I have seen too many Christians on a jihadis for Jesus kick, INCLUDING
      CRUZ who I will never vote for because he attended it (CUFI) They are scary people who
      misinterpret bible to mean killing is justified, just as radical muslims
      interpret the Koran to do the same. A terrorist is a terrorist no matter what country he is in that has nukes that they won’t give up!

      • Jakareh

        Ron Paul gave a speech a few days after 9/11 in which he blamed America for the attacks. He doesn’t understand the fundamental fact that Islam is aggressive by nature. For 1,400 years Muslims have preyed on the weak and lashed out in fanatical frustration at the strong. Paul went so far as to invoke the canard that the Crusades were the beginning of the trouble between Muslims and the West. The reality was just the opposite: the Crusades were a just struggle, one made necessary by unremitting Muslim aggression, including the conquest of much of what had been the Christian world, including the Holy Land.

        The fact is that the Pauls’ foreign policy is nonsensical and based on ignorance. It should disqualify them from holding high office as much Barack Obama’s views should have disqualified him.

        Ron Paul’s speech:

        Osama bin Laden, a wealthy man, left Saudi Arabia in 1979
        to join American-sponsored so-called freedom fighters in Afghanistan.
        He received financial assistance, weapons and training from our CIA,
        just as his allies in Kosovo continue to receive the same from us today.

        It is during this time that bin Laden learned to practice terror –
        tragically, with money from the US taxpayers. But it wasn’t until 1991,
        during what we refer to as the Persian Gulf War, that he turned fully
        against the United States. It was this war, said to protect our oil, that brought out the worst in him. …

        Of course, it isn’t our oil. The oil, in fact, belongs to the Arabs
        and other Muslim nations of the Persian Gulf. Our military presence in
        Saudi Arabia is what most Muslims believe to be a sacred violation of
        holy land. The continuous bombing and embargo of Iraq has intensified
        the hatred and contributed to more than 1,000,000 deaths in Iraq. It is clear that protecting certain oil interests and our presence in the Persian Gulf help drive the holy war.

        Muslims see this as an invasion and domination by a foreign enemy, which inspires radicalism.
        This is not new. This war, from their viewpoint, has been going on
        since the Crusades 1000 years ago. We ignore this history at our own
        peril.

        The radicals react as some Americans might react if China dominated the Gulf of Mexico and had air bases in Texas and Florida. Dominating the Persian Gulf is not a benign activity. It has consequences. The attack on the USS Cole was a warning we ignored. …

        The hatred has been suppressed because we are a powerful economic and
        military force and wield a lot of influence. But this suppressed hatred
        is now becoming more visible and we as Americans, for the most part,
        are not even aware of how this could be. Americans have no animosity
        toward a people they hardly even know. Instead, our policies have been driven by the commercial interests of a few – and now the innocent suffer.

    • RoxanneRoxanadana

      The funny thing about Sen. Cruz is that when it comes to his REAL past job, being Solicitor General for the State of Texas, he’s not a blow hard at all. You will never find the guy arguing that one or more rights criminals have must be removed. He’s like Sen. Cornyn that way. Frankly, I’d like him to stay in the Senate. The REAL nutcases, those who want to wreak havoc with our precious rights in the name of national security or other causes, have a vigorous opponent in Senator Cruz. If the Patriot Act goes the way of the buffalo, & I hope it does, it will be in part due to Sen. Cruz’ acts.

  • charlotte

    I’ve got news for you Israel has oil. Shale oil. And LOTS of it. And they’ve worked out way of extracting it cheaply.They’re just keeping stumm about it. Think about it. If the announced it there would be a massive Muslim invasion

    • defcon 4

      If Israel begins selling petroleum products, I’d drive 20 miles out of my way to buy them — because I’m sick of supporting islam0nazism and the US oil industry that kowtows to them.

  • Jsjk

    What a lying s.o.b., and, yes, there is no difference between Rand and Ron Paul — both are virulent antisemites. Since 1991 the United States has been fighting wars on behalf of Muslims — Kuwait, Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq, Libya, etc — the list is long and (under Obozo) would continue on into Syria. Enough already. The trillions wasted on Muslim wars could have been so much better spent building up America, not rat-infested hell holes populated by illiterate barbarians.

  • Steve

    Appearing more and more like a babbling wannabe.

  • Warren Raymond

    Daddy is a crackpot and son knows nothing about Israel or what Christians support. Disappointing, I know, but America’s got Kerry, and Obama, and MuBro’s in the white house, so what can we expect?

  • defcon 4

    Maybe Paul prefers we go to war for islam0nazis, you know, the people actively killing and persecuting Christians and Jews. After all, it’s much more lucrative for the corrupt pigs in the US federal government.

    • gadsdengurl

      Actually it’s your republican Senators mcCain and Graham who want to do that, NOT THE PAULS you moron.

    • gadsdengurl

      If Islam is so scary why do liberals and conservatives alike not support closing the borders? Especially the supporters of israel, of which there are many in our congress and senate? http://www.siotw.org/modules/news_english/item.php?itemid=1202

  • Mithrandir Olorin

    His Criticism is of why Stupid Christians support these Stupid Wars, not why the Luciferan Military Industrial Complex actually fought them.

  • Mark Peters

    With the inconsistency of Rand Paul, I find valid the suspicion of his integrity and patriotism. The libertarian slant would tend to the immorality of socialism, and communism and even to some extent islam. There are no better and eternal values than that which is the legacy given by the founders of America to its great country. I would continue to subscribe to such values, and differentiate those who deviate or tends to deviate out of relativism, and human evolution of what are absolutes, which should be the guiding post of any government in this temporal world.

    • Blaine Simpson

      I’m glad that most people appreciate the advantages to be gained by working towards common goals– in this case freedom and prosperity for Americans. Others don’t have the independence of mind to think beyond adulation of the particular religious figures they happen to have latched onto, or of the founding fathers, or of Karl Marx, etc. No problem if some historical facts need to be ignored to support the over-simplification (like the widely varying opinions among the Founding Fathers regarding the Wall of Separation). American citizenship is apparently only deserved by those who agree on every particular of Mark Peter’s fanaticisms. All hail the American Theocracy of the Manufactured Founding Fathers.

  • benjabo1machal

    Like Father like Son
    Both prefer to speak and deal with Anti-Semites, such as themselves

    • Felix Keverich

      …which is about 20% of the Republican party voters and rising. For Zionist Jews like you things are looking very grim indeed.

      You might wanna consider moving to Israel soon.

      • benjabo1machal

        Hey dummy, Jews are only about 5% of the American Population
        BTW, since your claim it’s 20% of the Republicans, howza about supplying some verifiable facts and sources?
        I served in the U.S. Army while you were hiding in your Mommy’s cellar, along with the rest of the garbage

        • Felix Keverich

          I assumed you were a Jew…It seems I was wrong: Jews are usually smarter than this.

      • gadsdengurl

        Don’t confuse zionism which is a political view with judaism, which is a decent religion. My jewish friends and family do not want war in the middle east, for anyone.

        • gray_man

          B.S. Hatred of “Zionism” is an excuse to hate Jews. No more, no less.
          At the very least the people who hate “Zionism” should have the guts to just admit they hate Jews. Cowards.

  • Felix Keverich

    The only reason we’re even talking about a war with Iran or a potential confrontation with Iran is because of this notion that nuclear technology in the hands of Iran presents an “existential threat” to Israel…

    A war against Iran therefore would be a war FOR ISRAEL, there is no going around this fact. Most polls show that Evangelical Christians would support the bombing of Iran if it is presented to them as necessary for Israel’s security.

    This is unfortunate, and this is something Rand Paul and libertarians want to change.

    As a Jew, Daniel Greenfield needs to shut up about Rand Paul, and focus more on the members of his own community, so eager to get America in a war against Iran.

    • Manaphy

      Exactly. Iran poses absolutely no threat towards America. People like Daniel Greenfield and Binyamin Netanyahu are pushing for it exhaustively for war with Iran because they would like see thousands of young, white soldiers die, rather than shed a drop of Jewish blood.

      • benjabo1machal

        Ye gads, you really are dumb, in fact, beyond belief
        Iran doesn’t do it’s own dirty work, it farms it out to Hamas, Hezbollah, MooSLIME BROTHERHOOD, et al
        Any idiot knows that, how come you don’t?

        • Manaphy

          If the content of your response didn’t prove your utter lack of intelligence, then your English Language skills certainly did.

      • iluvisrael

        you two Jew hating knuckle draggers should get a room – and stay there.

        • gadsdengurl

          You America-hating knuckle draggers should just leave the US.

          • benjabo1machal

            If your guts are as big as your sub-moronic mouth,
            MAKE US!!

        • Manaphy

          Yes, because not wanting Americans to die is a form of Jew-hatred.

      • gray_man

        Stupid comment.

    • gadsdengurl

      Anyone who is anti-intervention these days is put on the same level as the worst tyrant. Meanwhile we are the ones who want the killing to STOP. And let people be.

      • gray_man

        Are you so ignorant that you think the killing will stop if America does nothing?
        Talk about an ignorant fool.

  • SoCalMike

    No wonder the Jew hating media on the US delight in prompting Rand Paul.
    I’m always amazed at how otherwise intelligent people can let themselves not only be divided from natural allies but also serve natural enemies.
    Mind boggling.

    • No RNC

      Jew hating media??? You must be deaf & blind. The Gov Media is as protective of Jews as they are of Muslims, Blacks & Illegal Hispanics. Do you not know who actually owns and controls the Gov Media?

  • John

    THIS IS SO SIMPLE TO FIGURE OUT – TRY GOING TO ANY MUSLIM RULED COUNTRY AND LIVING , DRESSING , TALKING , DOING – WHATEVER ”YOU ARE” HERE IN AMERICA … GOOD LUCK , HOPE YOU HAVE YOUR LAST WILL N TESTAMENT FILLED OUT EXACTLY THE WAY YOU WANT IT … BUT FIRST GO TO ISRAEL AND LIVE LIKE A FREE AMERICAN , YOU’LL SURVIVE TO MAKE THAT TRIP TO A MUSLIM COUNTRY , WHERE , AT BEST , YOU’LL END UP IN PRISON OR WITH ACID IN YOUR FACE — THINK BRAINIACS , THINK .

    • Blaine Simpson

      The capitalization really helped me to comprehend your point.

  • Texas Patriot

    Allowing Israel to reconquer the Promised Land would make sense from several angles. Israel would never have to worry about oil again. Jihadis from all over the world would be attracted to the middle east to defend *their* holy land. And Israel could form the perfect butter between the perpetually warring Shia to the north and the perpetually warring Sunni to the south. But I don’t think Israel needs any help in doing that. A 21st Century Moshe Dyan would probably do the trick.

  • Felix Keverich

    Daniel Greenfield is an Israeli citizen who lives in Brooklyn, NYC. And this FOREIGNER has the temerity to lecture us about our national interests…

    The man is a liar and a fraud, and shame on everyone who takes him seriously as a Conservative.

    • Texas Patriot

      I see him as a brother in arms. His homeland is Israel. Mine is America. But we have the same enemy.

      • Felix Keverich

        Daniel Greenfield is your enemy. He is asking you to defend his “homeland”, while his Zionist buddies are working around the clock to destroy America.

        Radical Islam is not a threat to us so long as it remains on the opposite side of the Atlantic Ocean. It becomes a problem only when the Muslims arrive here via immigration. Immigration, which various Jewish interests actively promote.

        • Texas Patriot

          Nah, Greenfield is okay. He’s not asking us to defend Israel. The basic thrust of his work is to help Americans recognize that radical Islam is a threat to the entire world, not just Israel; and I think that’s true.

          Otherwise, it’s too late to think about stopping Muslim immigration into America. They’re already here. It’s my understanding that the number of Muslims in the United States increased by 74% AFTER 9/11. Bush called them a “religion of peace”, remember?

          My hunch is that if we quit pressuring Israel to give up lands that they acquired after they were attacked in the past and, instead, start encouraging them to acquire more lands whenever they are attacked in the future, most of the worst jihadis will flee America and return to the middle east to fight for THEIR holy land. It’s the only way forward out of this quagmire, and I think the Israelis can handle that for themselves once they get the green light from us.

          But don’t worry. It’s not like that will solve all of our problems. We’ll still have our hands full dealing with all the jihadis who are already here in America.

        • gray_man

          Ignoramus.

      • gadsdengurl

        We do? I don’t think so… we have enemies which we have created…. but that’s another story.

        • Texas Patriot

          I wish it were true, GDG. Then our problems would just go away like a puff of smoke. Unfortunately, the minute the Founding Fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, Muslim Clerics knew very well that Islam could not co-exist with America, and they have been at war with us ever since.

        • gray_man

          Yes we created the muslim armies that destroyed the middle east 1400 years ago, the muslim armies that expanded throughout the middle east, africa, into europe killing as they went, and have been doing it for 1400 years.
          Ignoramus.

    • gray_man

      Shame on anyone who takes your comment seriously.

  • Chuck Farley

    Stop hatin’ on Dr. Rand Paul! The man is smart, attractive, and smells good too. He’s a genuine leader and is going to be a great GOP candidate and President come 2016. Embrace him! ILoveRandPaul.com

  • xeriscapelady

    I don’t think he has said anything wrong. Why should we be over in Syria? If it were Israel needing help that is another thing entirely. I don’t see him talking against Israel. If I am wrong, please tell me.
    I am not for Rand being president, nor am I for Ted as he has NO experience. Experience is needed. Plus it is always better if you have a former governor who understands how states run so the states can keep their rights. Look at the mess we are in now.
    I have been saying this country has missed the boat on Newt as he has all the answers we need. But if Newt is not running there is one who has great experience and has proven he can lead the biggest state in the continental United States, and that is Rick Perry. He can use Newt for a cabinet position. We need experience people. And we need leaders. These both are proven. No one else is, except people I would never support. I am through with holding my nose and voting. I am not doing that again.