Sane Colorado Wants to Secede from Crazy Colorado to Form North Colorado


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The Democratic abuses in Denver on energy and second amendment rights have led to all sorts of responses, from a nearly unprecedented legislative recall campaign, but now they just may be leading to secession.

Weld County commissioners on Thursday announced that they want to join other northeastern Colorado counties in forming a new state — North Colorado.

Commissioners said a “collective mass” of issues have cumulated during the past several years that isolate rural Colorado from the rest of the state and put those counties at a disadvantage.

They said they met with county commissioners at a Colorado Counties, Inc. conference earlier this week to discuss the feasibility of forming a new state, a question that would first be put to voters on the November ballot.

Commissioners said Morgan, Logan, Sedgwick, Phillips, Washington, Yuma and Kit Carson counties all expressed interest in the idea.

The signing of S.B. 252, which increases renewable energy standards in rural areas in a way that rural energy companies say is too costly, and an attack on the oil and gas industry from the Legislature this year were the “straws that broke the camel’s back,” commissioners said.

Weld County’s main economic drivers — agriculture and energy — are under attack, even though they fill Colorado coffers, said Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway.

Conway said Vermont, Tennessee, Kentucky, Maine, and West Virginia petitioned for statehood for similar reasons in United States history. He said just because it hasn’t been done for 150 years, doesn’t mean the proposal isn’t appropriate.

“It hasn’t been tried in a while, but we also didn’t have a Supreme Court decide the presidential election for 100 years” until the 2000 presidential election, he said.

If state and federal lawmakers approve of the new state, there would be 51 white stars on the American flag and countless questions.

Under guidelines in the U.S. Constitution, North Colorado would have to get the consent of the Colorado General Assembly and the U.S. Congress to move forward with forming its own state.

Just imagine a North Colorado that actually does something useful and a South Colorado that spends money and passes restrictive laws basically making it California. Speaking of which, can the United States just secede from D.C.?

  • S. Brian Tucker

    This is just the beginning of the new secession movement.

    • drzoon

      that’s such an insane notion. do you have any idea what would have to happen to let a bunch of farmers form their own state within the Union?

      • objectivefactsmatter

        “do you have any idea what would have to happen to let a bunch of farmers form their own state within the Union?”

        They’re likely far more capable than career politicians are.

        • truebearing

          Are you suggesting that career politicians are useless narcissists who went into politics because they are incapable of doing anything else?
          Sounds about right.

      • Gee

        A bunch of farmers formed several of our states including Virginia. Both George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were farmers.

        • drzoon

          I’m sorry Gee, but both parties sold this country off a long time ago. the United States that existed back then has been bought and paid for since then.

          • Gee

            So because it was a long time ago farmers have become stupid and incompetent? That is what you imply.

            PS I am a farmer too

          • ziggy zoggy

            drzoon absolutely did not imply that farmers have become stupid and incompetent. He clearly stated that our government is corrupt and abusive.

          • Gee

            ziggy – that being the case I do most sincerely apologize for my comment.

            I agree all of our governments are corrupt, abusive and creating unconstitutional laws.

            Maybe we need farmers to again recreate the United States – just like they did the first time

          • ziggy zoggy

            No problem dude. drzoon is an obvious troll so everything he writes is suspect.
            Jefferson had a noble idea when he proposed a country of gentry farmers. Back then a country of farmers would have been indefensible but putting them in charge today would probably work. Every farmer I’ve met has been a jack of all trades rather than a clock punching dweeb or parasite, so I’m not surprised that the urbanites have screwed up our country so thoroughly.

          • trickyblain

            Bought? Maybe. Paid for? No.

          • truebearing

            Yes, bought by the taxpayer through ill-conceived leftist entitlement programs.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Did Ickybrain actually write something true and sensible?
            I think I just saw a pig fly by.

          • truebearing

            Have you considered making your point intelligible?

          • http://www.facebook.com/mindycamphouse Mindy Robinson

            You are right about that and all of us need to being to understand and accept that.

      • truebearing

        At least a state formed by farmers would have FOOD! They would also have a demonstrable IQ, which is something you can’t offer.

      • CowboyLogic

        You ought rethink your statement.
        You embarrass yourself.

        Your statement is exactly what King George said.

  • DogmaelJones1

    Go North Colorado! But beware and be prepared for a federal invasion. Uncle Sam doesn’t like its vassals leaving the “community.”

    • drzoon

      you dang right the federal govt would be all over something stupid like this. and RIGHTFULLY so! We fought and won a civil war to keep this union together and those southern loons thought they were “losing their way of life” too!

      • Gee

        They said succeed from COLORADO not the United States. Ever thought of taking a reading comprehension course?

        • drzoon

          with “who’s permission” is the state of Northern Colorado going to be formed?

          • cheechakos

            They don’t need “permission “

          • Gee

            Doesn’t need any

          • http://www.facebook.com/mindycamphouse Mindy Robinson

            The people of Northern Colorado. Remember , they are free.

        • Carrey Perea

          secede?

          • Gee

            Typo sorry :(

        • http://forbiddenterritories.com/profile/Isahiah62 Isahiah62

          thanks for pointing out the OBVIOUS to the OBLIVIOUS

      • tagalog

        So West Virginia must be forced back into Virginia, is that what you’re implying? They seceded from Virginia at the beginning of the Civil War in order to stay with the Union.

        • drzoon

          with who’s permission was West Virginia formed?

          • tagalog

            West Virginia elected its own legislature; they held the Wheeling Convention and formally seceded from Virginia. There was another convention over the issue of Virginia’s secession from the Union, and the West Virginia secession from Virginia was upheld. The new state applied for statehood and the federal government granted the application.
            There was not, to my knowledge, any issue that worried the federal government, about West Virginia’s constitutional power to secede and form its own state. The West Virginia legislature was concerned about seceding from Virginia before Virginia actually declared that it had seceded from the Union.

          • Gee

            It gave itself permission

      • Guest

        The Government just doesn’t like competition period, If you stand up for anything these days you get treated as an enemy instead of a free-thinking American…

      • ziggy zoggy

        Was the American revolution stupid? And regardless of what you think about the Confederacy, its people were sane and they absolutely were losing their way of life.

      • http://www.facebook.com/mindycamphouse Mindy Robinson

        You might consider dropping the name calling. We don’t have a gov drz, right now, we don’t have a nation. We have a divided nation, half fight to save our republic and our freedom, the other half fight to destroy it. The people of Co are talking about forming a new state , I would suggest it is time to split the nation and form a new nation. Libs on one side, humans on the other.

    • Jameson425

      The Government just doesn’t like competition period, If you stand up for anything these days you get treated as an enemy instead of a free-thinking American…

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      • dr doowop

        My friend, are you a gynacologist? I heard you talking bout periods. I need to find a good gyno. What are your fees?

        • tagalog

          I don’t think women have competition periods; maybe you can help me out on that interpretation.

        • Jameson425

          Your an idiot

        • http://www.facebook.com/mindycamphouse Mindy Robinson

          That was a useless comment.

  • kevin metz

    I have been saying for years the only way decent hard workers that earn a living and pay taxes can get a fair shake is to pull out of the United States like Texas form a nation and do not have affirmative action treat all equal. do not reward welfare hoes to overbreed and clog up the schools with thugs that prey on decent students by the thousands. sad you have to limit kids but 4 is enough for anyone. taxpayers should not have to raise them for you.

    • drzoon

      texas can’t do this any more than the loons in Colorado. what is up with these folks that think they can form a country or a state within the Union?

      • Michael Boone

        Article IV of the US constitution allows for it you idiot. We wouldn’t be the first state to do it either.

        • drzoon

          Article IV is “admission of a new state”. That’s was Hawaii or in the future Puerto Rico. It’s not “dividing a state”. New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
          Do you really think urban states could care less about granting statehood to a group of people who are trying to gain statehood by complaining about urban liberals? The state of California is a little over 10% of the congress as it is!

          the thing is, i read more than just this propaganda rag about this issue and i can see where the funding of your schools is a serious issue when it’s out of proportion to the tax contribution northern colorado makes to it’s treasury.

          BUT…. as usual, the lunatic right wing sees this issue as a matter of balkanizing rather than finding a way to make this work for them.

          if …. IF…. the right wing ever grows up and starts acting like responsible adults rather than throwing a fit every time it doesn’t get it’s way through the democratic process, then it might have a future and some relevancy in the future.

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          • cheechakos

            Article IV provides for the creation of new states of the Union, requiring that any such creation be approved by the legislature of the affected state(s), as well as the United States Congress.

            Almost every state has considered secession.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_partition_proposals

          • Gee

            The Constitution contains no provision for partitioning of states – but it has been done four times.

            So it is legal and West Virginia gave themselves permission to do so (the last state to partition itself) and it got no consent whatsoever.

            You are not an authority on the Constitution.

            People empower yourself and do not let lying morons like drzoon control the conversation. They either are making it up or lying through their teeth

          • tagalog

            To the present day, the articles setting Texas up as a state of the Union contains a provision that says Texas may subdivide itself into as many as five separate new states.

          • Preserve Our Nation

            DRZOON sounds quite ill-informed. Why would anyone with a semblance of intellect listen to him?! :-)

          • OfficialPro

            says the lunatic left winger whose votes destroy places like California, Oregon, Washington, and Colorado. Oh, and Ohio, New York, New Joisey…

          • ziggy zoggy

            Northeastern CO contributes far more to the state economy and coffers than the doucheleft parts of the states do – and it sucks up FAR less.
            Just because sane CO cant form its own state doesn’t mean it shouldn’t.

      • http://www.facebook.com/mindycamphouse Mindy Robinson

        I have news for you, yes they can. From the declaration of independence. Our fore fathers knew the libs would come, they knew a time would come that future generations would suffer the tyranny and oppression that they had escaped if they did not provide for us. We have reached the time in history in which those of us who value our freedoms have every right to secede.

        IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

        The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

        hen
        in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to
        dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and
        to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station
        to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent
        respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the
        causes which impel them to the separation.

        We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
        equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
        Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
        — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
        deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That
        whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is
        the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new
        Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its
        powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their
        Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments
        long established should not be changed for light and transient causes;
        and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed
        to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by
        abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train
        of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a
        design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it
        is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards
        for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of
        these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to
        alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present
        King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations,
        all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny
        over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid
        world.

        He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

        He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing
        importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should
        be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend
        to them.

        He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large
        districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of
        Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and
        formidable to tyrants only.

        He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual,
        uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records,
        for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his
        measures.

        He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

        He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause
        others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of
        Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise;
        the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of
        invasion from without, and convulsions within.

        He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for
        that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners;
        refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and
        raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

        He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

        He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

        He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

        He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

        He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

        He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign
        to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent
        to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

        For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

        For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders
        which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

        For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

        For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

        For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

        For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

        For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring
        Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging
        its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument
        for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

        For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

        For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

        He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

        He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

        He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries
        to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun
        with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the
        most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized
        nation.

        He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas
        to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their
        friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

        He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured
        to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian
        Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction
        of all ages, sexes and conditions.

        In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in
        the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only
        by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every
        act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free
        people.

        Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We
        have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to
        extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of
        the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have
        appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured
        them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations,
        which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence.
        They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We
        must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our
        Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in
        War, in Peace Friends.

        We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America,
        in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the
        world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by
        Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and
        declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free
        and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to
        the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and
        the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and
        that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War,
        conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all
        other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And
        for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the
        protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our
        Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

    • tagalog

      West Virginia.

  • Reta Lane

    I wonder if we can just move this reporter and all those other people like him to a nice little country like North Korea or Iran!

    • OfficialPro

      move who to North Korea?

      I have a better idea. Move all the LEFTISTS to North Korea. They’d fit right in.

    • ziggy zoggy

      You mean the worker’s paradise of NK that you lefties worship, or the Islamic Republic of Iran that you want to empower with nukes?
      Why don’t you just suggest the reporter move to the Bay Area, you imbecile?

  • d w

    California has tried several time to split in two North South. but they have yet to succeed at that

    • Gee

      True but we keep trying

  • http://forbiddenterritories.com/profile/Isahiah62 Isahiah62

    wanting to secede b/c there is no way to “work with” or “tolerate” what is intolerable or just flat wrong- means Obummer has succeeded in Balkanizing our country- the Great Divider has made sure that no opposition voices will be tolerated or allowed to be aired, made sure the vote is secured by fraud or packing in immigrants- of course when the gov’t is not responsive to large parts of the population and refuses to defend and protect them, refuses them representation, vigilantism and other revolutionary acts become NECESSARY. Make no mistake Obamantion is prepared for that exact scenario- proved they cannot stop terrorism from Islamics, b/c they cannot even see them as USA enemies , they can (and will) enforce domination on US citizens- Obama knows who his enemies are and it ain’t Al Q—-> it’s YOU and ME- and any other thinking person who finds the loss of our rights, our freedoms and the takeover by incompetent or ill-willed EVIL persons to be a sad injustice, a suicidal leap into the abyss of totalitarianism, that is our present federal govt

    • drzoon

      IGNORANCE!

      • Ashton Poocher

        Yes, you are.

      • ziggy zoggy

        How is his comment ignorant?

  • jack burns

    silly republicans. we know how you feel. we felt the same way about 8 years ago. You guys should move to Syria. You would fit in very well.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Idiot.

    • tagalog

      If we Republicans moved to Syria, it would be a liberty-loving wealthy garden state in a generation. And the Maronites would feel free to move down from the mountains if they wanted to.

  • tagalog

    Unfortunately, I live in El Paso County down here in southern Colorado, but I’d like to move to North Colorado if it ever becomes a reality (which I doubt). El Paso County is an anomaly among the Front Range communities, being known for its conservative politics.

  • MasterSkrain

    Yeah, THAT’S gonna happen…approximately 3 days after pigs learn to fly!

  • Gee

    Wish we would do the same in California, over 2/3rds of the population are in the Southern 1/3 of the state and they control the entire state. Over 90% of the resources are in the Northern 2/3rds

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Magee/100001349588223 John Magee

    Why do white liberals leave the cities their failed policies destroyed and head for lily white states like Vermont, Oregon, and Colorado? Why don’t they stay in the cesspool cities they created and leave the rest of us in peace?

    • OfficialPro

      because they are like vermin, they have a need to spread their disease whilst not being cognizant that they are in fact the problem.

      Most white liberals that leave would blame their troubles on nebulous “right wingers” or “the rich” and not give a thought to the fact that their stupid ideas and voting Democrat was the problem all along.

    • thushjz

      While I share your assessment of liberals and their moving to white states, your characterization of Colorado as being lily white is inaccurate, I’m a native Coloradan, lived in L.A. for 11 years and came back to Colorado where the city of Aurora and many neighborhoods of Denver are nearly as racially diverse as Los Angeles,

      • ziggy zoggy

        Big cities always attract parasites. Rural areas require hard work so they attract a different class.

        • rbrooks

          must be why so many of those rural area get so much welfare.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Bullshit. Urban areas take the hog’s share. Good luck proving your lie, you scumbag troll.

          • rbrooks

            actually, we pay the most in farm and corporate welfare. if you could read, you could easily verify who gets the most in federal dollars and who pays for it.

          • Laine Andrews

            If you’re counting government workers, all urbanites among your “payers”, they belong on the other side of the ledger as net takers. Their entire remuneration comes from other people’s taxes, i.e. the private sector. The little they return in taxes still leaves them as net takers of just another hidden form of Welfare – unionized overpaid government employment in make-work jobs or 2 people splitting the work of one.

          • rbrooks

            i am counting all of the corporations that we subsidize. like the oil and gas industry. the banks. insurance company’s. the real welfare. we receive nothing in return.
            as to public employees. the elected and appointed officials are vastly over paid.
            the police and fire unions are the largest and the best paid.

            we should treat public employees just like we treat the average american worker. minimum wage, part time and no benefits.

          • http://forbiddenterritories.com/profile/Isahiah62 Isahiah62

            True Cost of U.S. Gasoline is $15.14 per Gallon,(without subsidies)

            hmm that wouldn’t bring our country to a standstill or anything would it? /sarc

          • rbrooks

            nothing true about that propaganda on the cost of gas.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mindycamphouse Mindy Robinson

            Good point Laine.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mindycamphouse Mindy Robinson

            rbrooks, I am and always have been rural. I help pay for it rbrooks, as a matter of fact, over half my income is taken by gov to pay for others. also rbrooks, the dems are responsible for having destroyed rural America. Where did I get that info? In an article I read, written by a lib, that’s where. The author of that article actually wanted to know the affects of his political agenda, he did not expect to find what he found, he found destruction, he found giving and caring people who he had helped push into poverty. He also wrote of the response libs would make to his article and his survey and rbrooks you all said what he said you. You deny facts, you accept no responsibility for your destructive actions. His survey was followed by 2 others, both done by libs, both revealed the same truths. I doubt those authors are libs now. Let’s be clear here rbrooks, that farm and corporate welfare you speak of, it is not going to small farmers in rural America , it goes to big business. If you could read you would already know this. So given that fact , rural America , the people , receive less than city people. My thought rbrooks is it is time to divide this nation, libs on one side , humans on the other. I already know , having researched other nations with libs running them, the humans will fare well, the libs will have people starving in the streets, crime rates will be out of control and the elites will live high on the hog. I’m betting you pay nothing and take much.

          • rbrooks

            your ignorance is typical. food stamps, which are authorized by farm bills, generate revenue for farmers.

            you pay less in taxes. you get paid to not grow crops.

            you show no capacity for thinking.

            eliminate the social services. see how that works out for you.

            the real problem in america is already here. the low wage, no benefits, part time and no jobs that the gop has brought us.

            the elites are already living high on the hog. thanks to the gop.
            the really funny part, it is was liberals that fought for and founded this country. they use socialism to do that.
            best of luck with that neo socialist plan you support.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mindycamphouse Mindy Robinson

            rbrooks, you keep believing what you want instead of looking at facts. Stay loyal to party instead of good individuals. I have provided you with information you should at least consider, I did and I researched. Eliminating social services would work great for me rbrooks. Both Gop an dem party have had individuals which have caused great harm to this nation. You are very uninformed rbrooks and do not think rbrooks, you just follow.

          • rbrooks

            the facts are that we pay farmers to not grow crops. we subsidize pricing on crops. farmers do not pay fuel tax or sales tax on farm related purchases. they pay lower property taxes.

            eliminating social services will mean many farmers will go broke.

            there will be fewer stores. fewer medical facility’s. fewer jobs. higher unemployment and under employment. the cost of goods will rise even more.
            you might try an education. try reading a few of these farm bills that have been passed.

            read who pays in and where it is spent.
            those roads, bridges, water systems, phone, electric, schools, etc., were paid for by american tax payers. the rural areas paid very little for those services to be installed.

            are you being home schooled?

          • http://forbiddenterritories.com/profile/Isahiah62 Isahiah62

            revenue for farmers?? oh yeah don;t let any pesky facts get into your head– Walmart? JP Morgan? are farmers?
            Food Stamps: Follow the Money
            Are Corporations Profiting from Hungry Americans?

            • Congress does not require data collection
            on SNAP product purchases, despite such
            data being critical to effective evaluation
            • USDA told a journalist in Massachusetts
            he was not allowed to make public data on
            retailer redemptions from SNAP—after he
            received the data
            • In one year, nine Walmart Supercenters in
            Massachusetts together received more than
            $33 million in SNAP dollars—over four times
            the SNAP money spent at farmers markets
            nationwide
            • In two years, Walmart received about
            half of the one billion dollars in SNAP
            expenditures in Oklahoma
            • One Walmart Supercenter in Tulsa,
            Oklahoma received $15.2 million while
            another (also in Tulsa) took in close to $9
            million in SNAP spending.
            Key findings about how much money
            banks gain from SNAP:
            • USDA does not collect national data on
            how much money banks make on SNAP
            • J.P. Morgan Chase has contracts for
            Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) in half
            the states, indicating a lack of competition
            and significant market power
            • Contract terms vary widely among states,
            indicating a lack of efficiency and standards
            • In California, a 7-year contract worth $

            ………………………………………………………….
            and the MASSIVE FRAUD of those using food stamps – prosecution stymied by the feds even when state officials KNEW it- $750 billion dollars worth- and some going to fiance JIHAD- b/c the Muslims and other “immigrants” know how to game the system-
            Khaffak Sahib Ansari, 46, admitted that between January 2006 and October
            2010, he exchanged food stamps for cash and ineligible merchandise.
            Federal authorities charged that Ansari trafficked more than $3 million
            in food stamp benefits.

          • rbrooks

            revenue for farmers?? oh yeah don;t let any pesky facts get into your head– Walmart? JP Morgan? are farmers?
            Food Stamps: Follow the Money
            Are Corporations Profiting from Hungry Americans? <<

            follow the money is correct. the farmers sell their products which eventually wind up at walmart & grocery stores, etc.

            walmart shows 40% of their grocery sales are from food stamps. that means if you eliminate food stamps, you also eliminate 40% of the revenue that is being used to purchase farm goods.

            which would run even more small farmers and grocery stores out of business.

            it is amusing that you post data that supports how farmers receive subsidization and are not able to comprehend what you posted.

            the real answer is decent paying jobs. no more cheap labor immigrants.

          • rbrooks
        • RecklessProcess

          Racist aren’t you? How disgusting

    • CurmudgyOne

      Because no one likes to live in a Democrat-ruled place, including the Democrats. Just dividing this State will not cure anything, though: If North Colorado is a good place to live, they’ll invade it, to reinforce your point.

  • Everett Vulgamore

    i live in weld county, and i am for this 110%. those that dont live in weld county or any of the other farm counties cant understand fully how retarded legislation is here.

    • tagalog

      I live in El Paso County down south, but we there can empathize with the North Colorado advocates. They don’t even have mileages put on most of the signs on the interstate, telling how far it is to Colorado Springs.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mindycamphouse Mindy Robinson

      I understand Everett and I don’t even live in Co. My prayer are with you and this nation.

  • Klatuu

    California Liberals have taken over the CO Statehouse and are enacting laws that more less shut down all industries performed in more rural areas,(farming,ranching,energy exploration,mining,etc) Electric costs outside the Denver Metro area are going to skyrocket thanks to a new law signed on Monday by Gov.Hickenlooper.all to pander to “green energy” lobbyists

  • Barry Westfall

    I don’t blame them. We in downstate Illinois want to do the same from Chicago and its collar counties. They are rich and nuts. We are normal and not rich but very practical in our philosophy of life. Deep Southern Illinois would have done it years ago if they could have gotten just a modicum of support, or glomped themselves onto Indiana, Kentucky and Missouri.

    • cheechakos

      Yup. My area of S IL is ready to go,has been for a long time.
      We are sick to death of the corruption ,greed and complete failure of Chicago; who is bleeding us for money and driving employers out of the state.

  • rbrooks

    does that mean felons would be allowed to own guns. or do those pro gun folks still support current gun restrictions.

    will the new colorado refuse farm welfare?

    • Gee

      Why don’t you wait until it happens and then all of your totally moronic questions will be answered

      • rbrooks

        the hypocritical morons are folks like you. you support restrictions, unconstitutional circumventions, to the 2nd amendment. then whine when a new set of crooks get into office and pass new restrictions that will include you.
        you probably didn’t know that the farmers get welfare.

        • Gee

          No I don’t.

          Am a strict Constitutionalist. If anybody wants to impose any infringement on the right to keep and bear arms – they must pass an amendment to the Constitution. And I do mean any infringement whatsoever.

          • rbrooks

            so the proposed north colorado would follow the constitution? meaning felons could legally own guns.

            if not, they would just be more of the hypocrites.

        • ziggy zoggy

          You are making asinine arguments that nobody here or in the North Colorado movement have ever made.

          • rbrooks

            so why do they want to secede?

          • Preserve Our Nation

            That answer is quite obvious to those of discernment. Try reading the article.

          • rbrooks

            the answer is that they only want to preserve rights for themselves. while continuing to deny those same rights to others.

  • S3R6i0

    I wonder what the flag’s gonna look like.

  • Thomas Rogers

    The United States of America has already seceded.
    It is now “The Un-United States of Obama.

  • Jeronimo

    Drzoon, farmers feed you and every one in the state and nation.

  • trickyblain

    Well, it worked out great for West Virginia.

    Wait.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Yes it did. Virginia has the crime and filth and West Virginia doesn’t.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=521426724 Andrew Wanner

    Instead of forming a new, small state like this – why not join a neighboring conservative state such as Nebraska or Wyoming?

    • http://forbiddenterritories.com/profile/Isahiah62 Isahiah62

      and we have a WINNER!! good idea-

  • Matthew Marick

    Im actually from Morgan county. And as i read most of these comments i see just how db people are. This state sucks! We ARE losing our way of life, but not just coloradans. No sir. Every US CITIZEN is losing freedom one day and vote at a time. North Colorado is a dream coming true, a second chamce for all of us farmers in not just Colorado but all over the Union. The goverent has been screwing us over for too long and of you liberal butt wads are too dumb to see it. Youll feel it when either the greatest depression fonally hits, or a whole new civil war rises up. Either way, this country is doomed if we dont get out shit straigh right now.

  • thushjz

    As a native Coloradan, I’ve lived in several Cities close to Denver, and now in Weld County, the reason northern Coloradans are upset is because we are experiencing an energy boom. There are oil and gas wells everywhere here. The progressive politicians in Denver want our tax money from that new energy and Weld County is filling their Coffers.Weld also produces probably enough food to feed the entire state. Denver politicians want our tax money, and as all liberals do, they enact job killing regulations on energy and other types of businesses but don’t want to fix our highways or infrastructure. The people in Northern Colo. don’t want Pothead politicians telling them how to run their businesses and farms.

  • ziggy zoggy

    “Just imagine a North Colorado that actually does something useful and a South Colorado that spends money and passes restrictive laws basically making it California.”

    In 1941 there was a “patriotic rebellion” of the counties in Northern California and Curry County in Southwestern Oregon. They proposed to form the aptly named state of “Jefferson” but WWII burst on the scene and all the counties involved joined the war effort. There are still signs in NOCAL that welcome visitors to Jefferson.

  • jdelaney3

    My guess is that the chances of the CO Assemby and Congress approving secession is near zero.
    Coloradoans should try, yes, but to restore sanity in the state they should continue to aggressively recall the Progressive vermin currently dominating their government.
    If they stick together, these counties can also nullify or otherwise ignore stupid and destructive Progressive state laws emanating from Denver.
    Also, don’t know the population of those counties expressing interest in seceding, but the brainwashed in the state may very well outnumber them.
    So, recall and local resistance may be their best bets to restore sanity.

  • fireboatman

    Repeal the 17th Amendment and return the appointment of US Senators back to their respective states as directed in the US Constitution Article 1, Section 3. This would go along way in restoring our government and country.

  • Las Vegas Mixx

    Why not simply join Northern Colorado with Wyoming to consolidate two super-low population areas in their shared redneck values – leaving the rest of Colorado free from their endless whining.

  • Blake hitler

    a state without muslims and I would move there! but no doubt those savage muslims would come and spread the peaceful loving terror that is islam

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