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		<title>By: HVD</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re green on the outside, but red on the inside. While we&#039;re all wallowing in poverty, they&#039;ll be sitting on their golden thrones in their serviced apartments thinking how noble they are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re green on the outside, but red on the inside. While we&#8217;re all wallowing in poverty, they&#8217;ll be sitting on their golden thrones in their serviced apartments thinking how noble they are.</p>
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		<title>By: m4253y</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Aug 2013 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daniel, a superb treatise on a very sad and misguided &quot;feel good&quot; at all costs venture.


Me, how do I handle it? simple, I refuse to recycle anything. However, being the capitalist I am, if an incentive, such as reduced property taxes, a cut in the profits, etc., were offered, I may consider doing so.


However, a little story to expand on your story.


A couple of years ago, I received a letter from the city that informing me that the garbage collectors confirmed that i was not recycling and that if i continued to do so, I would fined, significantly.


My retort, show me the law that says I &quot;must&quot; recycle. The answer, there was and still is none.


So, simple folks, don&#039;t recycle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, a superb treatise on a very sad and misguided &#8220;feel good&#8221; at all costs venture.</p>
<p>Me, how do I handle it? simple, I refuse to recycle anything. However, being the capitalist I am, if an incentive, such as reduced property taxes, a cut in the profits, etc., were offered, I may consider doing so.</p>
<p>However, a little story to expand on your story.</p>
<p>A couple of years ago, I received a letter from the city that informing me that the garbage collectors confirmed that i was not recycling and that if i continued to do so, I would fined, significantly.</p>
<p>My retort, show me the law that says I &#8220;must&#8221; recycle. The answer, there was and still is none.</p>
<p>So, simple folks, don&#8217;t recycle.</p>
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		<title>By: JoJoJams</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2013 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s funny is that&#039;s the exact same response I get when debating islam with muslims, and I point out how despotic all the &quot;islamic republic of blah blah blah&#039;s&quot; are - the response is ALWAYS that those in power there aren&#039;t doing it right, and TRUE ISLAM(c) needs to be implemented.  Same.  Exact.  Response.  Unreal - but true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s funny is that&#8217;s the exact same response I get when debating islam with muslims, and I point out how despotic all the &#8220;islamic republic of blah blah blah&#8217;s&#8221; are &#8211; the response is ALWAYS that those in power there aren&#8217;t doing it right, and TRUE ISLAM(c) needs to be implemented.  Same.  Exact.  Response.  Unreal &#8211; but true.</p>
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		<title>By: truebearing</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2013 07:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real goal of the Environmental Religon is facilitating the death of billions of humans. They want a world where the human population is between 100 to 300 million. That means a lot of people have to die -- but not them, of course.
How do they kill off such a huge percentage of humanity? Stop the use of pesticides to kill mosquitos, destroy health care, de-industrialize, reduce access to fuel, create food shortages, etc. Call it existential eugenics. They merely create situations where people are weakened, can&#039;t stay warm, well fed, or safe. Hundreds of millions would die.....and fulfill the misanthropic malthusian fantasies of the human hating Environmental Left. No wonder abortion is sacred to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real goal of the Environmental Religon is facilitating the death of billions of humans. They want a world where the human population is between 100 to 300 million. That means a lot of people have to die &#8212; but not them, of course.<br />
How do they kill off such a huge percentage of humanity? Stop the use of pesticides to kill mosquitos, destroy health care, de-industrialize, reduce access to fuel, create food shortages, etc. Call it existential eugenics. They merely create situations where people are weakened, can&#8217;t stay warm, well fed, or safe. Hundreds of millions would die&#8230;..and fulfill the misanthropic malthusian fantasies of the human hating Environmental Left. No wonder abortion is sacred to them.</p>
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		<title>By: alyssa651</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alyssa651]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2013 06:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[like Gregory implied I am shocked that a mom able to profit $8154 in four weeks on the internet. did you see this web link w­w­w.K­E­P­2.c­o­m]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like Gregory implied I am shocked that a mom able to profit $8154 in four weeks on the internet. did you see this web link w­w­w.K­E­P­2.c­o­m</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2013 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And somehow, mysteriously, the &quot;right people&quot; are always they themselves. It&#039;s as simple a vision of totalitarianism as any that exists. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And somehow, mysteriously, the &#8220;right people&#8221; are always they themselves. It&#8217;s as simple a vision of totalitarianism as any that exists. </p>
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		<title>By: Everett Vulgamore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Everett Vulgamore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2013 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#039;d put his name on the ballot


serious]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d put his name on the ballot</p>
<p>serious</p>
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		<title>By: Everett Vulgamore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Everett Vulgamore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2013 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[someday, id like to shake your hand Daniel, this is yet another great article. keep &#039;em coming]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someday, id like to shake your hand Daniel, this is yet another great article. keep &#8216;em coming</p>
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		<title>By: INTOLERANTOFEVIL</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[INTOLERANTOFEVIL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Aug 2013 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who cares, Who cares, Who cares...?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares, Who cares, Who cares&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond_in_DC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raymond_in_DC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, it doesn&#039;t happen often, but I have to take exception with a number of remarks here. Much of what he attributes to generic environmentalism is really a reflection of a market&#039;s failure to accommodate masses of surplus labor.

More generally, I think it&#039;s important to distinguish between more traditional conservation - what I&#039;ve sometimes deemed practical or real-world environmentalism - and the ideological &quot;Gaia&quot; variety which, as Daniel notes, is closely linked with the centralization of political power.

Years ago, there was little consideration given for the waste and toxicity associated with industrial practices. Those were the days when rivers would burn with pollutants. Changes have been made, whether spurred on by regulation or civic duty, to such practices, with businesses even finding ways to make money from waste. And we rarely hear today about cities running out of places to dump, because so much more is being recycled in an economic fashion. That&#039;s quit different from the poor in Bombay or Cairo scrounging for bottles to recycle.

Obviously, though, when we get to the point of crying for trees or beggaring farmers because water is diverted to save the Delta Smelt, we&#039;re in very different territory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it doesn&#8217;t happen often, but I have to take exception with a number of remarks here. Much of what he attributes to generic environmentalism is really a reflection of a market&#8217;s failure to accommodate masses of surplus labor.</p>
<p>More generally, I think it&#8217;s important to distinguish between more traditional conservation &#8211; what I&#8217;ve sometimes deemed practical or real-world environmentalism &#8211; and the ideological &#8220;Gaia&#8221; variety which, as Daniel notes, is closely linked with the centralization of political power.</p>
<p>Years ago, there was little consideration given for the waste and toxicity associated with industrial practices. Those were the days when rivers would burn with pollutants. Changes have been made, whether spurred on by regulation or civic duty, to such practices, with businesses even finding ways to make money from waste. And we rarely hear today about cities running out of places to dump, because so much more is being recycled in an economic fashion. That&#8217;s quit different from the poor in Bombay or Cairo scrounging for bottles to recycle.</p>
<p>Obviously, though, when we get to the point of crying for trees or beggaring farmers because water is diverted to save the Delta Smelt, we&#8217;re in very different territory.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond_in_DC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raymond_in_DC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the floor has deep cultural roots in that region.

I recall traveling in Iran in 1976. The most modern and educated of Muslim countries in the region, and flush with oil money, new buildings were going up everywhere. Yet when I had to use the facilities in a newly built bank, the stalls had ... holes in the floor, albeit with fancy porcelain and flush water!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the floor has deep cultural roots in that region.</p>
<p>I recall traveling in Iran in 1976. The most modern and educated of Muslim countries in the region, and flush with oil money, new buildings were going up everywhere. Yet when I had to use the facilities in a newly built bank, the stalls had &#8230; holes in the floor, albeit with fancy porcelain and flush water!</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Black</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 19:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to WhiteHunter, last time I met the tiger, I won. Chances are thus good that next time I&#039;ll win again. WhiteHunters belong to an odious tribe; and despite the outsize blunderbusses they carry--they have to since their masculinity is always in doubt--they&#039;re very frequently eaten alive, if not by tigers, then by their overwhelming sense of failure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to WhiteHunter, last time I met the tiger, I won. Chances are thus good that next time I&#8217;ll win again. WhiteHunters belong to an odious tribe; and despite the outsize blunderbusses they carry&#8211;they have to since their masculinity is always in doubt&#8211;they&#8217;re very frequently eaten alive, if not by tigers, then by their overwhelming sense of failure.</p>
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		<title>By: bj affordable</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bj affordable]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t need to tell me. My eldest brother is the biggest, blathering leftie ever! Hardcore commie. Lowest common denomination is the goal. The bastard even admits it.


Something I cannot accept.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need to tell me. My eldest brother is the biggest, blathering leftie ever! Hardcore commie. Lowest common denomination is the goal. The bastard even admits it.</p>
<p>Something I cannot accept.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Black</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I take it you wrote something Mr. Moto and you thought a Hitler-Stalin reference would clinch your case, but then it seems you put your oh so elegant pensée   in a blender and poured out the result in your posting above. It&#039;s a tour de force of incoherence. Or rather a tour de farce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it you wrote something Mr. Moto and you thought a Hitler-Stalin reference would clinch your case, but then it seems you put your oh so elegant pensée   in a blender and poured out the result in your posting above. It&#8217;s a tour de force of incoherence. Or rather a tour de farce.</p>
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		<title>By: OfficialPro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OfficialPro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh man, is it googlable?  I have a morbid curiosity.  About all I know about Sharia bathroom customs is, the left hand is &quot;dirty&quot;...for a REASON.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh man, is it googlable?  I have a morbid curiosity.  About all I know about Sharia bathroom customs is, the left hand is &#8220;dirty&#8221;&#8230;for a REASON.</p>
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		<title>By: OfficialPro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OfficialPro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[communists are afflicted with the strange belief that all previous attempts at communism failed because the &quot;right people&quot; weren&#039;t in charge.  If only the &quot;right people&quot; were in charge (and thus could make it succeed), then it would succeed.


And here&#039;s where we get to the fact that people who try the same thing over and over expecting different results, are absolutely batfeces insane and belong in a rubber room, not an ivory tower.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>communists are afflicted with the strange belief that all previous attempts at communism failed because the &#8220;right people&#8221; weren&#8217;t in charge.  If only the &#8220;right people&#8221; were in charge (and thus could make it succeed), then it would succeed.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s where we get to the fact that people who try the same thing over and over expecting different results, are absolutely batfeces insane and belong in a rubber room, not an ivory tower.</p>
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		<title>By: OfficialPro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OfficialPro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The irony is that recycling actually pollutes more, than getting the original resources processed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony is that recycling actually pollutes more, than getting the original resources processed.</p>
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		<title>By: brossen99</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brossen99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I watched C4 Under Cover Boss programme about the chairman of Biffa one of the corporates into mas recycling in the UK company said to be struggling financially due to massive debt.  Fair play to the guy he was prepared to work on a picking belt full of soiled nappies sorting by hand in the hope of finding a piece of clean paper.   The belt was knackered and kept breaking down. there was no proper ventilation for the hot summer, workers paid min wage with no hope of promotion.  The UK is now fast approaching third world conditions for those on low incomes except you have to pay to keep warm in winter in the UK unlike most third world nations !

 Another thing which struck me as totally uneconomic was the 32 ton 8 wheeler which only carried 13 tons of food waste after you lost the weight of the equipment to empty 250kg bins which were to heavy for the driver anyway if full.   Not even as efficient as Stevenson&#039;s Rocket, the specification for which demanded that the loco was able to pull at least twice its own weight to meet the Liverpool and Manchester Railway specification to adopt steam at all, 

We should be incinerating all our combustible waste, ( fair enough separate the alloy and glass as a part of the process ) and generating 10% of our UK baseload electricity thus reducing consumption of finite fossil fuels !

http://nollyprott.wordpress.com/2013/01/19/the-alleged-unintended-consequences-of-the-carbon-dioxide-causes-climate-change-scam/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched C4 Under Cover Boss programme about the chairman of Biffa one of the corporates into mas recycling in the UK company said to be struggling financially due to massive debt.  Fair play to the guy he was prepared to work on a picking belt full of soiled nappies sorting by hand in the hope of finding a piece of clean paper.   The belt was knackered and kept breaking down. there was no proper ventilation for the hot summer, workers paid min wage with no hope of promotion.  The UK is now fast approaching third world conditions for those on low incomes except you have to pay to keep warm in winter in the UK unlike most third world nations !</p>
<p> Another thing which struck me as totally uneconomic was the 32 ton 8 wheeler which only carried 13 tons of food waste after you lost the weight of the equipment to empty 250kg bins which were to heavy for the driver anyway if full.   Not even as efficient as Stevenson&#8217;s Rocket, the specification for which demanded that the loco was able to pull at least twice its own weight to meet the Liverpool and Manchester Railway specification to adopt steam at all, </p>
<p>We should be incinerating all our combustible waste, ( fair enough separate the alloy and glass as a part of the process ) and generating 10% of our UK baseload electricity thus reducing consumption of finite fossil fuels !</p>
<p><a href="http://nollyprott.wordpress.com/2013/01/19/the-alleged-unintended-consequences-of-the-carbon-dioxide-causes-climate-change-scam/" rel="nofollow">http://nollyprott.wordpress.com/2013/01/19/the-alleged-unintended-consequences-of-the-carbon-dioxide-causes-climate-change-scam/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sharia bathroom customs may also be at issue. I would go on, but it&#039;s gross.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharia bathroom customs may also be at issue. I would go on, but it&#8217;s gross.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When your money is spent on dope, alcohol, and cigarettes, and you depend on charity to feed, clothe, and give you a place to sleep, it hardly matters, except to the extent that our derelicts are among the worst offenders in the world of littering.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When your money is spent on dope, alcohol, and cigarettes, and you depend on charity to feed, clothe, and give you a place to sleep, it hardly matters, except to the extent that our derelicts are among the worst offenders in the world of littering.</p>
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