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		<title>By: Sg23</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Believe me people in egypt are so poor (i&#039;m egyptian) that just a sustenance will go a long way. Beyond that the fact that a large portion of them are uneducated and illiterate and thus easily influenced by overly zealous psychotic preachers that incite violence. Its a combination of everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe me people in egypt are so poor (i&#8217;m egyptian) that just a sustenance will go a long way. Beyond that the fact that a large portion of them are uneducated and illiterate and thus easily influenced by overly zealous psychotic preachers that incite violence. Its a combination of everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Sg23</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree completely. I can&#039;t believe McCain and Graham are even in politics with the lack of self restraint they showed in criticizing Egypts interim President/Vice President and Al Sisi. I can&#039;t believe the media is having a field day trying to make it seem as if the army wanted power and are now killing &#039;peaceful&#039; weapon trotting, church burning brotherhood, Rather than talking about how the last 2 most wanted men in america developed from the brotherhood (last 2 alqaeda leaders: Osama Bin Laden, and currently Al Zawahiri)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely. I can&#8217;t believe McCain and Graham are even in politics with the lack of self restraint they showed in criticizing Egypts interim President/Vice President and Al Sisi. I can&#8217;t believe the media is having a field day trying to make it seem as if the army wanted power and are now killing &#8216;peaceful&#8217; weapon trotting, church burning brotherhood, Rather than talking about how the last 2 most wanted men in america developed from the brotherhood (last 2 alqaeda leaders: Osama Bin Laden, and currently Al Zawahiri)</p>
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		<title>By: ObamaYoMoma</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The jihadists work towards the same goal through jihad. The more people they murder, the more &quot;moderate&quot; the Muslim Brotherhood will appear, and the more support and money the Muslim Brotherhood will receive from the West.&lt;/i&gt;

Uhm...the Muslim Brotherhood are jihadists. As a matter of fact, all Muslims are jihadists in one form or another, as jihad is not only the highest pillar of which Islam stands, it is also a holy obligatory duty incumbent upon all Muslims in one form or another. While some jihad is violent, very similar to terrorism, non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad is astronomically far more prevalent relative to the violent variety of jihad. For instance, mass Muslim immigration to the West for the nefarious purpose of demographic conquest is astronomically far more prevalent relative to violent jihad attacks such as 9/11. 

In Islam, there is no such thing as so-called &quot;moderate Muslims, since all Muslims as the first and foremost prerequisite of Islam, totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to the &quot;will of Allah&quot; under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy, as Islam alone in the world compels faith via the penalty of death, yet somehow it is still considered to be a religion by the masses instead of what it really is, which is a cult. Then to top it off, the &quot;will of Allah&quot; that all Muslims totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to under the pain of death for blasphemy and apostasy is in essence Sharia law, which is Islamic totalitarian law. Hence, Islam in reality is a totalitarian cult masquerading as being a religion to dupe its intended targets. 

Furthermore, per the universally accepted throughout Islamadom doctrine of abrogation, which holds that when two or more verses of the Koran come into conflict with each other, that is they contradict one another, the latter issued verses of the Koran, i.e., those issued later on in Muhammad&#039;s career, abrogate, replace, and override the earlier issued verses of the Koran in which they conflict with. Thus, this means that the infamous sword verses of the Koran, which were issued by Muhammad just shortly before his death, abrogate, replace, and override all the earlier issued peaceful verses of the Koran they conflict with and the very same abrogated Koranic verses that Muslims love to cite to clueless infidels in order to dupe gullible useful idiots. In effect, the latter issued sword verses of the Koran reformed Islam from what initially started out as being a &quot;religion of peace&quot;, into what is now a very aggressive and destructive totalitarian cult, as the sole fundamental purpose of Islam since the issuance of the infamous sword verses of the Koran is the subjugation of all religions and all infidels into Islamic totalitarianism through jihad and via the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

&lt;i&gt;could secularize the country and eventually pave way for true democracy -&lt;/i&gt;

Uhm...I hate to rain on your naive parade, but democracy in the Islamic world is absolutely 100 percent impossible, as Islam is not a religion but instead a form of totalitarianism in its own right. That&#039;s also the reason why every Islamic country in the world today is either a totalitarian hellhole or on the path to becoming a totalitarian hellhole in the not too distant future. Indeed, in many respects Islam is very similar to Communism as both forms of totalitarianism sought world domination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The jihadists work towards the same goal through jihad. The more people they murder, the more &#8220;moderate&#8221; the Muslim Brotherhood will appear, and the more support and money the Muslim Brotherhood will receive from the West.</i></p>
<p>Uhm&#8230;the Muslim Brotherhood are jihadists. As a matter of fact, all Muslims are jihadists in one form or another, as jihad is not only the highest pillar of which Islam stands, it is also a holy obligatory duty incumbent upon all Muslims in one form or another. While some jihad is violent, very similar to terrorism, non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad is astronomically far more prevalent relative to the violent variety of jihad. For instance, mass Muslim immigration to the West for the nefarious purpose of demographic conquest is astronomically far more prevalent relative to violent jihad attacks such as 9/11. </p>
<p>In Islam, there is no such thing as so-called &#8220;moderate Muslims, since all Muslims as the first and foremost prerequisite of Islam, totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to the &#8220;will of Allah&#8221; under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy, as Islam alone in the world compels faith via the penalty of death, yet somehow it is still considered to be a religion by the masses instead of what it really is, which is a cult. Then to top it off, the &#8220;will of Allah&#8221; that all Muslims totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to under the pain of death for blasphemy and apostasy is in essence Sharia law, which is Islamic totalitarian law. Hence, Islam in reality is a totalitarian cult masquerading as being a religion to dupe its intended targets. </p>
<p>Furthermore, per the universally accepted throughout Islamadom doctrine of abrogation, which holds that when two or more verses of the Koran come into conflict with each other, that is they contradict one another, the latter issued verses of the Koran, i.e., those issued later on in Muhammad&#8217;s career, abrogate, replace, and override the earlier issued verses of the Koran in which they conflict with. Thus, this means that the infamous sword verses of the Koran, which were issued by Muhammad just shortly before his death, abrogate, replace, and override all the earlier issued peaceful verses of the Koran they conflict with and the very same abrogated Koranic verses that Muslims love to cite to clueless infidels in order to dupe gullible useful idiots. In effect, the latter issued sword verses of the Koran reformed Islam from what initially started out as being a &#8220;religion of peace&#8221;, into what is now a very aggressive and destructive totalitarian cult, as the sole fundamental purpose of Islam since the issuance of the infamous sword verses of the Koran is the subjugation of all religions and all infidels into Islamic totalitarianism through jihad and via the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.</p>
<p><i>could secularize the country and eventually pave way for true democracy -</i></p>
<p>Uhm&#8230;I hate to rain on your naive parade, but democracy in the Islamic world is absolutely 100 percent impossible, as Islam is not a religion but instead a form of totalitarianism in its own right. That&#8217;s also the reason why every Islamic country in the world today is either a totalitarian hellhole or on the path to becoming a totalitarian hellhole in the not too distant future. Indeed, in many respects Islam is very similar to Communism as both forms of totalitarianism sought world domination.</p>
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		<title>By: cathy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2013 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Allen West Insists Muslim Brotherhood &#039;Infiltrated&#039; Obama Administration
Posted: August 14, 2013 4:10 PM

Former Congressman Allen West, who has left the door open to a political comeback, ripped President Barack Obama’s Middle East policies on Wednesday and claimed the Muslim Brotherhood has “infiltrated” the American government.

“In 2009 President Obama traveled to Egypt and delivered a very conciliatory speech at the University of Cairo. Not much later, events termed the ‘Arab Spring’ compelled President Obama to advocate for the deposing of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak,” West posted on Facebook on Wednesday. “Many warned of the rise of the ‘granddaddy of Islamic terrorism,’ the Muslim Brotherhood, in Egypt as the only viable and organized political entity. We were castigated as alarmists and Islamophobes. The Muslim Brotherhood even lied about running a candidate for president. We are now witnessing the result of our blindness. Read the Muslim Brotherhood&#039;s charter. Read the 1991 Muslim Brotherhood Explanatory Memorandum Strategic Goal for North America that was uncovered during an FBI raid in Northern Virginia. Read Erick Stakelbeck&#039;s book, ‘The Brotherhood: America&#039;s Next Enemy.&#039; And yes, we do have Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated groups and individuals infiltrated into this current Obama administration. This is serious.”

http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/blog/allen-west-insists-muslim-brotherhood-infiltrated-obama-administration

http://www.theoakinitiative.org/pdfs/teamb/15-Shariah-The-Threat-to-America-Team-B-Report-Web-285-308.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allen West Insists Muslim Brotherhood &#8216;Infiltrated&#8217; Obama Administration<br />
Posted: August 14, 2013 4:10 PM</p>
<p>Former Congressman Allen West, who has left the door open to a political comeback, ripped President Barack Obama’s Middle East policies on Wednesday and claimed the Muslim Brotherhood has “infiltrated” the American government.</p>
<p>“In 2009 President Obama traveled to Egypt and delivered a very conciliatory speech at the University of Cairo. Not much later, events termed the ‘Arab Spring’ compelled President Obama to advocate for the deposing of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak,” West posted on Facebook on Wednesday. “Many warned of the rise of the ‘granddaddy of Islamic terrorism,’ the Muslim Brotherhood, in Egypt as the only viable and organized political entity. We were castigated as alarmists and Islamophobes. The Muslim Brotherhood even lied about running a candidate for president. We are now witnessing the result of our blindness. Read the Muslim Brotherhood&#8217;s charter. Read the 1991 Muslim Brotherhood Explanatory Memorandum Strategic Goal for North America that was uncovered during an FBI raid in Northern Virginia. Read Erick Stakelbeck&#8217;s book, ‘The Brotherhood: America&#8217;s Next Enemy.&#8217; And yes, we do have Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated groups and individuals infiltrated into this current Obama administration. This is serious.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/blog/allen-west-insists-muslim-brotherhood-infiltrated-obama-administration" rel="nofollow">http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/blog/allen-west-insists-muslim-brotherhood-infiltrated-obama-administration</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.theoakinitiative.org/pdfs/teamb/15-Shariah-The-Threat-to-America-Team-B-Report-Web-285-308.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.theoakinitiative.org/pdfs/teamb/15-Shariah-The-Threat-to-America-Team-B-Report-Web-285-308.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alvaro</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my opinion you can&#039;t just set up ballot boxes and say you have got democracy. In many countries the dictator with the most votes will simply oppress everyone else. Egypt under Mursi was one such country.


What Egypt needs first (in order to make democracy work) is enlightenment and the separation of state and religion. Only then will the Copts be safe(r) and there will be a true democracy.


The paradox is that the way to democracy may go through a long term military dictatorship with annihilation of Mursi and his theocratic cohorts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion you can&#8217;t just set up ballot boxes and say you have got democracy. In many countries the dictator with the most votes will simply oppress everyone else. Egypt under Mursi was one such country.</p>
<p>What Egypt needs first (in order to make democracy work) is enlightenment and the separation of state and religion. Only then will the Copts be safe(r) and there will be a true democracy.</p>
<p>The paradox is that the way to democracy may go through a long term military dictatorship with annihilation of Mursi and his theocratic cohorts.</p>
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		<title>By: Santiago Matamoros</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Santiago Matamoros]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 03:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s no &quot;what if?&quot;

The Muslim Brotherhood advises Muslims in the West to view their time here as a grand jihad, the goal of which is to bring down Western Civilization from within.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no &#8220;what if?&#8221;</p>
<p>The Muslim Brotherhood advises Muslims in the West to view their time here as a grand jihad, the goal of which is to bring down Western Civilization from within.</p>
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		<title>By: TopAssistant</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is Obama using the Muslim Brotherhood to form a global caliphate or are they using him to do so? Either way, it is being formed; the Democrat Party is helping; the RINO/GOP leadership/followers in the soon to be defunct Republican Party are doing their part to prevent any and all hearings; the mainstream media (MSM) remains silent. 
The Muslim Brotherhood in America wrote a plan to destroy America however, our USELESS politicians in BOTH the House and Senate, BOTH Democrat Party and the RINO/GOP refuse to hold hearings on their plan and the group. You can buy it online at Amazon for $5.00. 
An Explanatory Memorandum: From the Archives of the Muslim Brotherhood in America: “The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”
“Another extraordinarily important element of the Memorandum is its attachment. Under the heading “A List of Our Organizations and Organizations of Our Friends,” Akram helpfully identified 29 groups as Muslim Brotherhood fronts. Many of them are even now, some twenty-two years later, still among the most prominent Muslim- American organizations in the United States. Worryingly, the senior representatives of these groups are routinely identified by U.S. officials as “leaders” of the Muslim community in this country, to be treated as “partners” in “countering violent extremism” and other outreach initiatives. Obviously, this list suggests such treatment translates into vehicles for deep penetration of the American government and civil society.”  http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2013/05/25/an-explanatory-memorandum-from-the-archives-of-the-muslim-brotherhood-in-america  
Do they sound peaceful?  You can read an online copy here at The Oak Initiative website: http://www.theoakinitiative.org/pdfs/teamb/15-Shariah-The-Threat-to-America-Team-B-Report-Web-285-308.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Obama using the Muslim Brotherhood to form a global caliphate or are they using him to do so? Either way, it is being formed; the Democrat Party is helping; the RINO/GOP leadership/followers in the soon to be defunct Republican Party are doing their part to prevent any and all hearings; the mainstream media (MSM) remains silent.<br />
The Muslim Brotherhood in America wrote a plan to destroy America however, our USELESS politicians in BOTH the House and Senate, BOTH Democrat Party and the RINO/GOP refuse to hold hearings on their plan and the group. You can buy it online at Amazon for $5.00.<br />
An Explanatory Memorandum: From the Archives of the Muslim Brotherhood in America: “The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.”<br />
“Another extraordinarily important element of the Memorandum is its attachment. Under the heading “A List of Our Organizations and Organizations of Our Friends,” Akram helpfully identified 29 groups as Muslim Brotherhood fronts. Many of them are even now, some twenty-two years later, still among the most prominent Muslim- American organizations in the United States. Worryingly, the senior representatives of these groups are routinely identified by U.S. officials as “leaders” of the Muslim community in this country, to be treated as “partners” in “countering violent extremism” and other outreach initiatives. Obviously, this list suggests such treatment translates into vehicles for deep penetration of the American government and civil society.”  <a href="http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2013/05/25/an-explanatory-memorandum-from-the-archives-of-the-muslim-brotherhood-in-america" rel="nofollow">http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2013/05/25/an-explanatory-memorandum-from-the-archives-of-the-muslim-brotherhood-in-america</a><br />
Do they sound peaceful?  You can read an online copy here at The Oak Initiative website: <a href="http://www.theoakinitiative.org/pdfs/teamb/15-Shariah-The-Threat-to-America-Team-B-Report-Web-285-308.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.theoakinitiative.org/pdfs/teamb/15-Shariah-The-Threat-to-America-Team-B-Report-Web-285-308.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: jackdiamond</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my view, Sunnah and Qur&#039;an are the problem, the Ikhwan invented nothing. Our problem with the Islamic world does not begin and end with the Muslim Brotherhood, but that&#039;s another discussion. Islam-light is better than the full Black-heart. I hope you are right about the (new) new Egypt, for everyone&#039;s sake. Stay safe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my view, Sunnah and Qur&#8217;an are the problem, the Ikhwan invented nothing. Our problem with the Islamic world does not begin and end with the Muslim Brotherhood, but that&#8217;s another discussion. Islam-light is better than the full Black-heart. I hope you are right about the (new) new Egypt, for everyone&#8217;s sake. Stay safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda S. Heard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linda S. Heard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I do find it hard to believe all those Muslims favorable to the MB, at least before it came to power, were simply loyal because of handouts and not what they hear in the mosques every Friday&quot;
Not everyone, of course. There are leaders, ideologues, militias, wealthy benefactors, stalwarts - then there is the majority, the base that is loyal because a) Handouts and b) Indoctrination in the MB&#039;s mosques.
Egyptians have changed a lot since Mubarak had the top job. The religiousity was partly a protest. Young women wore the hijab as a symbol of defiance. Many stopped wearing them following the Jan 25th revolution. They are still pious but most really resent being told how to practice their faith by women in niqab and black gloves and men with beards and short kaftans. One of their recent chants is &quot;Islam is Sunnah and Quran, not Mursi and Ikhwan&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I do find it hard to believe all those Muslims favorable to the MB, at least before it came to power, were simply loyal because of handouts and not what they hear in the mosques every Friday&#8221;<br />
Not everyone, of course. There are leaders, ideologues, militias, wealthy benefactors, stalwarts &#8211; then there is the majority, the base that is loyal because a) Handouts and b) Indoctrination in the MB&#8217;s mosques.<br />
Egyptians have changed a lot since Mubarak had the top job. The religiousity was partly a protest. Young women wore the hijab as a symbol of defiance. Many stopped wearing them following the Jan 25th revolution. They are still pious but most really resent being told how to practice their faith by women in niqab and black gloves and men with beards and short kaftans. One of their recent chants is &#8220;Islam is Sunnah and Quran, not Mursi and Ikhwan&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jackdiamond</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The US should never have been in bed with the MB (in Egypt or elsewhere) but that&#039;s been the current March of Folly since some geniuses decided the MB weren&#039;t jihadists after all. The interim govt/army is going to have a hard time if they don&#039;t crackdown--if not eliminate the MB the way Nasser did.That said, I do find it hard to believe all those Muslims favorable to the MB, at least before it came to power, were simply loyal because of handouts and not what they hear in the mosques every Friday.  I&#039;ve seen some Egyptian TV too, the fire-breathing clerics; The Protocols of the Elders of Zion shown as a mini-series (in the Mubarak era); the polls which showed 80% of Egyptians favored more Shari&#039;a law and punishments like death for apostasy.  If that&#039;s a false impression from afar, I&#039;m willing to be corrected. If
it comes down to who can feed the people gets their loyalty, well, I&#039;m all for this govt. succeeding. Since today is better than yesterday. 

We&#039;re all for bread, just no more circuses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US should never have been in bed with the MB (in Egypt or elsewhere) but that&#8217;s been the current March of Folly since some geniuses decided the MB weren&#8217;t jihadists after all. The interim govt/army is going to have a hard time if they don&#8217;t crackdown&#8211;if not eliminate the MB the way Nasser did.That said, I do find it hard to believe all those Muslims favorable to the MB, at least before it came to power, were simply loyal because of handouts and not what they hear in the mosques every Friday.  I&#8217;ve seen some Egyptian TV too, the fire-breathing clerics; The Protocols of the Elders of Zion shown as a mini-series (in the Mubarak era); the polls which showed 80% of Egyptians favored more Shari&#8217;a law and punishments like death for apostasy.  If that&#8217;s a false impression from afar, I&#8217;m willing to be corrected. If<br />
it comes down to who can feed the people gets their loyalty, well, I&#8217;m all for this govt. succeeding. Since today is better than yesterday. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re all for bread, just no more circuses.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The MB is dedicated to Allah and His rule upon the earth.  Only they know Allah for what He is (which in their view is entirely &quot;other&quot;, which is to say &quot;indescribable&quot;, which makes their &quot;insight&quot; entirely empty, and thus entirely worthless) and what He wants.  They have the Truth for all time and everyone who opposes them is an enemy of God who they must wipe out - now - if they are to serve Allah properly.  Is there a greater glory for the &quot;slaves&quot; of Allah than to destroy those who reject His will?  No!  
So we, who would rather not be murdered, but who vaingloriously insist on our (anti- Allah) freedom of choice are the enemy.  Indeed, our whole social structure, based as it is on tenets contrary to those revealed by Islam, is a demonic imposture by Satan, and we are Satan&#039;s agents, knowingly or not, and all in need of immediate death (in a way they are doing us a favor).
As I have been telling my sons, back when, in the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s, when we were pushing for so many of the progressive agendas that have since become parts of our social fabric, I had no idea that, having won so many battles, it would turn out so badly, so ugly, so vehemently disunited.  I thought back then that multiculturalism was the key the new egalitarian world of peace and love we all dreamed of so idealistically.  I certainly never imagined that the primary enemy of our beautiful new world would a resurgent medievalism complete with beheadings.  
And all I can say now is that I still believe in equality in law and tolerance even though I no longer believe in that beautiful chimera of peace and love.  Maybe its advancing age, but it seems to me that eventually we must deduce a few plausible contenders for &quot;facts&quot;, because in fact facts can be deduced, and the fact is that whatever else Islam may be, it is like unto a medieval plague upon the modern world, which thrives on diversity and innovation, while Islam insists on orthodoxy and stasis.  
Islam is a retrograde proto-fascism in the guise of religion.  Islam is imperialistic, colonialist, anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-minority, anti-democratic, anti-pluralist, anti-modernist, in short : anti-humanist.  Yet it is embraced by intellectuals who excuse all of that by declaring Islam a victim.  And victims Muslims certainly are.  They are victims of Islam, which is the one and only source of the one and only Truth, which is not subject to change.  But it will change.  It is changing.  Everything is changing and everything changes, but how is not possible to predict.  So the &quot;true&quot; Muslims murder the &quot;moderate&quot; Muslims (and us infidels, naturally) because Islam is perfect after all, and all change is evil.  
No, I never imagined that here in the 21st century we would be refighting the stupid battles over religion that befouled the world a thousand years ago.  Just shows how short sighted wild idealism (like mine) usually is.  But we will have to fight this anti-human &quot;religion&quot; at least as long as its faithful feel their faith requires them to kill us for not being faithful too.  &quot;Islam&quot; means &quot;submission&quot;, and that is all that will do.  There is no reasoning with anyone who does not wish to be reasonable, to consider another point of view, and to consider their own mistakes, and having perfect Truth does not lend itself to reason.  So reason as we might, we shall do so in a vacuum where no true slave of Allah will ever go, and all this stupid ugliness will go on and on and on just as it has for ever and ever and ever.  Happy days!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MB is dedicated to Allah and His rule upon the earth.  Only they know Allah for what He is (which in their view is entirely &#8220;other&#8221;, which is to say &#8220;indescribable&#8221;, which makes their &#8220;insight&#8221; entirely empty, and thus entirely worthless) and what He wants.  They have the Truth for all time and everyone who opposes them is an enemy of God who they must wipe out &#8211; now &#8211; if they are to serve Allah properly.  Is there a greater glory for the &#8220;slaves&#8221; of Allah than to destroy those who reject His will?  No!<br />
So we, who would rather not be murdered, but who vaingloriously insist on our (anti- Allah) freedom of choice are the enemy.  Indeed, our whole social structure, based as it is on tenets contrary to those revealed by Islam, is a demonic imposture by Satan, and we are Satan&#8217;s agents, knowingly or not, and all in need of immediate death (in a way they are doing us a favor).<br />
As I have been telling my sons, back when, in the 60&#8242;s and 70&#8242;s, when we were pushing for so many of the progressive agendas that have since become parts of our social fabric, I had no idea that, having won so many battles, it would turn out so badly, so ugly, so vehemently disunited.  I thought back then that multiculturalism was the key the new egalitarian world of peace and love we all dreamed of so idealistically.  I certainly never imagined that the primary enemy of our beautiful new world would a resurgent medievalism complete with beheadings.<br />
And all I can say now is that I still believe in equality in law and tolerance even though I no longer believe in that beautiful chimera of peace and love.  Maybe its advancing age, but it seems to me that eventually we must deduce a few plausible contenders for &#8220;facts&#8221;, because in fact facts can be deduced, and the fact is that whatever else Islam may be, it is like unto a medieval plague upon the modern world, which thrives on diversity and innovation, while Islam insists on orthodoxy and stasis.<br />
Islam is a retrograde proto-fascism in the guise of religion.  Islam is imperialistic, colonialist, anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-minority, anti-democratic, anti-pluralist, anti-modernist, in short : anti-humanist.  Yet it is embraced by intellectuals who excuse all of that by declaring Islam a victim.  And victims Muslims certainly are.  They are victims of Islam, which is the one and only source of the one and only Truth, which is not subject to change.  But it will change.  It is changing.  Everything is changing and everything changes, but how is not possible to predict.  So the &#8220;true&#8221; Muslims murder the &#8220;moderate&#8221; Muslims (and us infidels, naturally) because Islam is perfect after all, and all change is evil.<br />
No, I never imagined that here in the 21st century we would be refighting the stupid battles over religion that befouled the world a thousand years ago.  Just shows how short sighted wild idealism (like mine) usually is.  But we will have to fight this anti-human &#8220;religion&#8221; at least as long as its faithful feel their faith requires them to kill us for not being faithful too.  &#8220;Islam&#8221; means &#8220;submission&#8221;, and that is all that will do.  There is no reasoning with anyone who does not wish to be reasonable, to consider another point of view, and to consider their own mistakes, and having perfect Truth does not lend itself to reason.  So reason as we might, we shall do so in a vacuum where no true slave of Allah will ever go, and all this stupid ugliness will go on and on and on just as it has for ever and ever and ever.  Happy days!</p>
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		<title>By: VLParker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VLParker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God, I hope so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, I hope so.</p>
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		<title>By: Seek</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/the-muslim-brotherhoods-false-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-5258188</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The German analogy is more complicated.  Adolf Hitler, contrary to popular misconception, did not win the the 1932 German presidential election.  It was the octonegarian, Paul Hindenburg, who won it, in a three-candidate, two-stage election. (Under the Weimar system, chancellor and president were two separate offices). Hitler wound up with only 36 percent of the vote, but he gained crucial leverage in persuading the ailing Hindenburg (with the help of naive recent Chancellor Franz von Papen), to appoint him chancellor in January 1933.  A year later, Hitler cemented his absolute rule by abolishing the presidential office.  
Moral:  Don&#039;t lose a war, go through a depression and then elect an old guy president.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The German analogy is more complicated.  Adolf Hitler, contrary to popular misconception, did not win the the 1932 German presidential election.  It was the octonegarian, Paul Hindenburg, who won it, in a three-candidate, two-stage election. (Under the Weimar system, chancellor and president were two separate offices). Hitler wound up with only 36 percent of the vote, but he gained crucial leverage in persuading the ailing Hindenburg (with the help of naive recent Chancellor Franz von Papen), to appoint him chancellor in January 1933.  A year later, Hitler cemented his absolute rule by abolishing the presidential office.<br />
Moral:  Don&#8217;t lose a war, go through a depression and then elect an old guy president.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda S. Heard</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/the-muslim-brotherhoods-false-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-5258173</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Linda S. Heard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t disagree with you. Everything you wrote is correct. But here&#039;s my prism argument again. Egypt is a country with some 40 percent illiteracy and over 50 percent living below the poverty line. Do you honestly believe people worried about their next piece of bread or those unable to read and write can access the facts you lay out above? From the perspective of Egyptians who support the MB even though the president drawn from its ranks drove the nation into the ground socially, economically, and politically, the MB is a social welfare organization; they are loyal because they&#039;ve been the receipient of free medical treatment, help with educational expenses, food packages, inexpensive meat and cash handouts, in some, cases for decades. It really is as simple as that. 
The interim government/army has a heck of a job on its hands because its hands are being somewhat tied by diktats from the US and the EU. Any crackdown, any dismantling of the sit-ins resulting in heavy fatalities and President Obama, Baroness Ashton et al will yell military state, death of democracy. The US should be supportive, not demoralizing when Egypt has traditionally been its closest ally in the region, barring Israel. We were disgusted and appalled by the comments from McCain/Graham that served only to stir the pot and anger egyptians from all sides of the spectrum. Egypt, this new brave Egypt, is struggling to breathe and its friends should hold out a helping hand rather than threats and finger wagging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with you. Everything you wrote is correct. But here&#8217;s my prism argument again. Egypt is a country with some 40 percent illiteracy and over 50 percent living below the poverty line. Do you honestly believe people worried about their next piece of bread or those unable to read and write can access the facts you lay out above? From the perspective of Egyptians who support the MB even though the president drawn from its ranks drove the nation into the ground socially, economically, and politically, the MB is a social welfare organization; they are loyal because they&#8217;ve been the receipient of free medical treatment, help with educational expenses, food packages, inexpensive meat and cash handouts, in some, cases for decades. It really is as simple as that.<br />
The interim government/army has a heck of a job on its hands because its hands are being somewhat tied by diktats from the US and the EU. Any crackdown, any dismantling of the sit-ins resulting in heavy fatalities and President Obama, Baroness Ashton et al will yell military state, death of democracy. The US should be supportive, not demoralizing when Egypt has traditionally been its closest ally in the region, barring Israel. We were disgusted and appalled by the comments from McCain/Graham that served only to stir the pot and anger egyptians from all sides of the spectrum. Egypt, this new brave Egypt, is struggling to breathe and its friends should hold out a helping hand rather than threats and finger wagging.</p>
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		<title>By: NSNZ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NSNZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you checked out your assumption that &#039;the true secular force in Egypt, namely the army&#039; is also the accepted understanding of the tiny remaining (original) Coptic race of Egypt, Alvaro?
Good in theory, but far from practice when Copts are framed, killed and churches burned on an increasingly regular basis there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you checked out your assumption that &#8216;the true secular force in Egypt, namely the army&#8217; is also the accepted understanding of the tiny remaining (original) Coptic race of Egypt, Alvaro?<br />
Good in theory, but far from practice when Copts are framed, killed and churches burned on an increasingly regular basis there.</p>
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		<title>By: Clare Spark</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/the-muslim-brotherhoods-false-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-5258126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clare Spark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are true moderates and pseudo moderates. I exposed the pseudo-moderates here: http://clarespark.com/2010/11/06/moderate-men-falling-down/. &quot;Moderate men falling down.&quot; Greenfield&#039;s piece exposes phony moderates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are true moderates and pseudo moderates. I exposed the pseudo-moderates here: <a href="http://clarespark.com/2010/11/06/moderate-men-falling-down/" rel="nofollow">http://clarespark.com/2010/11/06/moderate-men-falling-down/</a>. &#8220;Moderate men falling down.&#8221; Greenfield&#8217;s piece exposes phony moderates.</p>
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		<title>By: jackdiamond</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/the-muslim-brotherhoods-false-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-5258091</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jackdiamond]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Egyptians were surprised by Morsi&#039;s actions once in office? He had begun to be seen as an &quot;international statesman?&quot;  What about the Muslim Brotherhood did they not understand?  We can debate whether Qutb &quot;twisted&quot; Islam but note the concern is over Muslims pronouncing other Muslims as kafir (and apostate).  Pronouncing Takfir is as old as Islam but it&#039;s the one thing that makes jihadists unpopular with other Muslims.  Al Qaeda was very popular with the Jordanians, for instance, until it began targeting Jordanian Muslims--  killing Americans was okay but killing Muslims and pronouncing Muslim leaders outside Islam was apparently a source of controversy.   

The Ikhwan/Brotherhood is pretty open about its goals and methods, there is no excuse for being ignorant of it or fooled by it. The priority of the MB has been constructing an infrastructure in the West as a prelude to eventual &quot;rule&quot; later in the century. It practices a doctrine of &quot;concealment&quot; or &quot;flexibility&quot; in kafir countries, as part of its notion of stages (moving from the individual to family to peoples to the nation to the union of Islamic nations, the global Caliphate) with moderation disappearing as their power increases.  This &quot;colonization&quot; has been most successful in Europe.  Meanwhile, It has fully supported jihad and terror in Muslim countries, it religiously justified suicide bombings in Palestine and Iraq. It has run training camps for terrorism against Kashmir and MB Hassan al-Turabi let bin Laden set up a terrorist network in Sudan and training camps for global jihad. Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine, is a terrorist entity. The MB is also directly linked to Jamaat-e-Islami in Pakistan. 

The last Supreme Guide of the MB Muhammad Mahdi Akef said &quot;the path of the Muslims is global&quot;  and that &quot;the Shari&#039;a is the Solution.&quot;  In 2004 he called the U.S. &quot;a Satan that abuses the religion. I expect 
America to collapse soon...I have complete confidence that Islam will 
invade Europe and America.&quot;  In an interview in 2005 he said &quot;&quot;The Muslim Brotherhood is a global movement whose members cooperate 
with each other throughout the world, based on the same religious 
worldview--the spread of Islam until it rules the world...all the members
in the international arena operate according to the written charter 
that states that Jihad is the only way to achieve these goals...ours is 
the largest organization in the world.&quot; 

Ikhwan Online made this statement of purpose, invoking the MB motto:
&quot;The problems of conquering the world will only end when the flag of 
Islam waves and jihad has been proclaimed.  The goal...is the 
establishment of a world Islamic State. And if prayer is a pillar of 
faith, then jihad is its summit..and death in the path of Allah is the 
summit of aspiration.&quot;
 
The followers of Hassan Al Banna are only &quot;moderate&quot; to those Egyptian Muslims &quot;the most devout on the planet.&quot;  Not especially to the rest of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egyptians were surprised by Morsi&#8217;s actions once in office? He had begun to be seen as an &#8220;international statesman?&#8221;  What about the Muslim Brotherhood did they not understand?  We can debate whether Qutb &#8220;twisted&#8221; Islam but note the concern is over Muslims pronouncing other Muslims as kafir (and apostate).  Pronouncing Takfir is as old as Islam but it&#8217;s the one thing that makes jihadists unpopular with other Muslims.  Al Qaeda was very popular with the Jordanians, for instance, until it began targeting Jordanian Muslims&#8211;  killing Americans was okay but killing Muslims and pronouncing Muslim leaders outside Islam was apparently a source of controversy.   </p>
<p>The Ikhwan/Brotherhood is pretty open about its goals and methods, there is no excuse for being ignorant of it or fooled by it. The priority of the MB has been constructing an infrastructure in the West as a prelude to eventual &#8220;rule&#8221; later in the century. It practices a doctrine of &#8220;concealment&#8221; or &#8220;flexibility&#8221; in kafir countries, as part of its notion of stages (moving from the individual to family to peoples to the nation to the union of Islamic nations, the global Caliphate) with moderation disappearing as their power increases.  This &#8220;colonization&#8221; has been most successful in Europe.  Meanwhile, It has fully supported jihad and terror in Muslim countries, it religiously justified suicide bombings in Palestine and Iraq. It has run training camps for terrorism against Kashmir and MB Hassan al-Turabi let bin Laden set up a terrorist network in Sudan and training camps for global jihad. Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine, is a terrorist entity. The MB is also directly linked to Jamaat-e-Islami in Pakistan. </p>
<p>The last Supreme Guide of the MB Muhammad Mahdi Akef said &#8220;the path of the Muslims is global&#8221;  and that &#8220;the Shari&#8217;a is the Solution.&#8221;  In 2004 he called the U.S. &#8220;a Satan that abuses the religion. I expect<br />
America to collapse soon&#8230;I have complete confidence that Islam will<br />
invade Europe and America.&#8221;  In an interview in 2005 he said &#8220;&#8221;The Muslim Brotherhood is a global movement whose members cooperate<br />
with each other throughout the world, based on the same religious<br />
worldview&#8211;the spread of Islam until it rules the world&#8230;all the members<br />
in the international arena operate according to the written charter<br />
that states that Jihad is the only way to achieve these goals&#8230;ours is<br />
the largest organization in the world.&#8221; </p>
<p>Ikhwan Online made this statement of purpose, invoking the MB motto:<br />
&#8220;The problems of conquering the world will only end when the flag of<br />
Islam waves and jihad has been proclaimed.  The goal&#8230;is the<br />
establishment of a world Islamic State. And if prayer is a pillar of<br />
faith, then jihad is its summit..and death in the path of Allah is the<br />
summit of aspiration.&#8221;</p>
<p>The followers of Hassan Al Banna are only &#8220;moderate&#8221; to those Egyptian Muslims &#8220;the most devout on the planet.&#8221;  Not especially to the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey Britain</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/the-muslim-brotherhoods-false-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-5258089</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;After taking &quot;democratic&quot; control he began... to shut out political opposition and impose dictatorial powers--all deriving from democracy.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Gee, this could equally apply to Obama.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;After taking &#8220;democratic&#8221; control he began&#8230; to shut out political opposition and impose dictatorial powers&#8211;all deriving from democracy.&#8221;</i> Gee, this could equally apply to Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Greenfield</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/the-muslim-brotherhoods-false-appeal/comment-page-1/#comment-5330612</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Greenfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Technically Hitler was appointed chancellor at a time when the Nazi Party had begun flailing politically.


All that occurred within the political context of the Republic, but not directly through the ballot box, which is why I wrote pure democracy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically Hitler was appointed chancellor at a time when the Nazi Party had begun flailing politically.</p>
<p>All that occurred within the political context of the Republic, but not directly through the ballot box, which is why I wrote pure democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Spinoneone</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spinoneone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What if terrorist Islam and political Islam are the same thing?&quot;
That&#039;s a rhetorical question, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What if terrorist Islam and political Islam are the same thing?&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s a rhetorical question, right?</p>
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