The Post-American World War

Iran-test-fires-short-ran-007World War III may already be here. The left spent decades warning that our warmongering would bring on a new global war; but it was their peacemongering that did it instead.

World War II did not begin when the German army entered Poland, but when Britain and France began to appease Hitler. The war was only a matter of waiting around for the inevitable. And now we are the ones watching and waiting for the inevitable.

For half a century, the United States kept the peace through the force of its existence. There were some difficult times, but for the most part it was the sheer bulk of its military budgets and the ranks of nuclear warheads that prevented not only the big war, but also most of the little wars.

The left complained incessantly about those budgets and those missiles. It draped itself in peace signs and slapped on bumper stickers like “Cukes Not Nukes”. Its entertainers made movies ridiculing generals who believed in the balance of power as maniacs. Its pundits wrote books explaining why every problem in the world was caused by American power being used to aid fascist dictators and keep down progressive rebels like Che and Pol Pot.

And then American power finally collapsed. There had been early warning signs under Carter and Clinton, but with Obama it finally happened. The message went out that there was no longer a great power to serve as a stabilizing influence. If anyone wanted to discuss global warming or a fund to empower women in Southeast Asia, they could come down to Washington, but if they wanted to discuss how to use the balance of power keep the world from falling apart, they were out of luck.

The message was received. It was received in Cairo where the Muslim Brotherhood got to work overthrowing allied governments and replacing them with theocracies. It was received in Asia where China and North Korea set to work moving in on American allies.

The Middle East is burning. Asia looks like it might be next. The experts offer all sorts of proposals from giving more free stuff to North Korea to giving free stuff to the Syrian rebels instead, but stability against aggression can’t be achieved with giveaways. Even soft power requires hard power behind it. When there’s no hard power then the soft power is helpless.

Asia and the Middle East are the Post-American wars of a Post-American administration. They are the conflict of the power vacuum that Obama left in his wake.

The Middle East is a grenade. American power was the pin. When Obama pulled the pin, the unstable elements went off and the natural conflicts between Shiite and Sunni broke out again. And those won’t be the last conflicts. The region is a tinderbox of ethnic and religious tensions. American power couldn’t keep a lid on all of them, but it provided a stabilizing element that is gone now.

In his Cairo speech, Obama ceded American influence in the Middle East. And the fight was on to fill the vacuum as leaders allied with the United States lost their support from Washington.

The Islamists smashed the left. The Sunni and Shiite Islamists began waging a bloody war over Syria, Bahrain and soon enough, Lebanon and Iraq. And with Iran developing nuclear weapons and Turkey fighting a proxy war with it in Syria, the fighting won’t end there.

It doesn’t matter whether Obama gets tugged by UK’s Cameron and France’s Hollande into throwing the weight of whatever firepower survived four years of military budget cuts into the game on the side of the Muslim Brotherhood. In 1955 that would have been a power play; now it’s just pathetically currying favor with the forces that took down our regional allies.

The Middle East is in the middle of a Post-American war. The humanitarian crises, the bombings, murders and rapes that the media splashes across every channel and paper are the wages of Hope and Change.

American power was never the problem. American weakness was. Carter couldn’t figure out international power politics and gave us Iran. Clinton couldn’t figure it out and gave us Al Qaeda. Obama topped them both by taking down almost every allied government in the region.

The man who lectured cheering Socialist grandees before the Iraq War on only fighting smart wars failed to understand that sometimes you start wars through aggression and other times you start them through weakness.

The Arab Spring was a pipe dream. The future of the region will not be decided by elections. It will be decided by bullets. Everyone in Syria knows that, but Washington D.C. is still slow on the uptake. The future does not belong to Social Democrats, not in the Middle East or even in Europe, it belongs to roving gangs carving out spheres of power and defending them against weak governments.

The next Post-American War looks to be breaking out in Asia. American power froze the natural conflicts of the region. Now with American power subtracted from the equation, the postponed conflicts between Japan and China and between South Korea and North Korea have returned.

Obama’s pivot toward Asia consists of sending Hanoi John to reassure South Korea and Japan that the United States will support them in trying to negotiate with Kim III. Japan and South Korea are willing to take the cheap photo ops, but their governments are not formulating their plans based on American support. Japan and South Korea have shifted more to the right because they know that the days when they could count on American power are gone.

Like the Islamists in the Middle East, China and North Korea are moving against countries that had grown dependent on a regional stability built on American power. South Korea and Japan are adapting themselves to a world in which America is good for little more than sending out emissaries to propose more negotiations while its diplomats pay more attention to Global Warming and the Palestinian peace process than to North Korea’s threats of war.

The withdrawal of American power has implications beyond Asia and the Middle East.

How much of its old sphere of influence will Russia try to claw back from NATO? Obama sold out Poland on missile defense and sent the message that Russia can do whatever it pleases and Obama will try to do his flexible best not to notice.

The Latin American left is more toxic and dangerous than it has been in a long time. Cuba may be tottering and Chavez may be dead, but the left isn’t. There’s more south of the border than just cheap labor and cheap votes. Brazil is a powerhouse and Iran is poking its nose into Venezuela.

Africa is toppling toward the abyss of a religious war between Christians and Muslims. The Muslims are backed by the wealth and power of the Gulf. The Christians are backed by no one. The Post-American world order is creating a more dangerous world where power is secured through brutal violence and those who emerge victorious will not, in the long run, leave us alone.

The Post-American World War has begun. It will either end with the destruction of the United States or its reemergence as a world power.

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  • jeff bargholz

    America is too big to fail and the strong never grow weak. Right?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      It depends how long Boehner is there to help Obama destroy us.

    • Haitham

      Hahahaha you can take your dad as an example sir.. the what goes up must come down

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    The US should take over the oil fields of the Middle East and lower the price of oil back to $10 per barrel.

    Give each islamo-petro entity a 10% cut to keep them happy.

    Cheap energy is good for the world.

    • Cassandra

      No. Americans should insist for the pipeline to be opened and only rely on itself for energy.. We have all we need here. Stop this STUPID and COSTLY projects on green energy. There is NO warming of the earth. Sell the coal to the Chines but lets be free from the Saudis.

    • AnOrdinaryMan

      The US may not have to take over the oil fields of the M.E.; because they've discovered tremendous amounts of oil and natural gas in Israel. Israel is estimated to have 250,000,000,000 billion barrels of oil, in the form of underground oil shale. And Dr.Herbert Vinegar is perfecting a nearly waterless process of extraction that involves heating the rock. This oil could be available in 2–3 years, maybe sooner. And Israel's natural gas is available now. Personally, I can't wait for the day when the US will be free of OPEC; but you know that Obama and the Dhimmicrats in Congress will do their level best to keep us from getting there.

    • EarlyBird

      "The US should take over the oil fields of the Middle East and lower the price of oil back to $10 per barrel."

      Yeah. Do tell how we would "take over" those vast oilfields. Oh let me guess, by bombing, invading and permanently occupying the Arab Peninsula. Surely that will go great, and our troops won't be under constant attack. We know that because Iraq went so well.

  • Parenthetical Phrase

    I think most Americans are quite happy with their new Post-American world reality.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "I think most Americans are quite happy with their new Post-American world reality."

      I think most Americans are quite happy with their new Post-American world delusions.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Liberals perhaps.

        They didn't scream much when our ambassador in Libya was murdered.

    • truebearing

      You call that "thinking"?

    • Drakken

      Reality is going to be one of those extremely painful reminders to you puzzy leftys.

  • Gylippus

    You are right Adina. There is good reason to suspect that the dire scenario that Daniel laid out is the direct result of deliberate efforts by Obama and his handlers. He is emerging as perhaps the most destructive enemy that America has ever faced.

  • truebearing

    If Obama was merely a feckless fool, like Chamberlain, we could at least give him credit for meaning well. Obama doesn't mean well. His creation of a weaker US, and the power vacuum that predictably followed, was 100% intentional.

    Obama is nothing short of evil. History will record Obama as America's Nero, its scourge, its Meccan Horse, but he will bring destruction to the rest of the world as well with his Pandora's Open Box policies (courtesy of Soros' Open Society Institute agenda).

    • KarshiKhanabad

      Neville Chamberlain realized he'd been duped by Hitler and when war broke out threw his complete support behind Winston Churchill and the British war effort. Chamberlain died honorably in 1941 as a firm backer of British victory against the Third Reich.

      • truebearing

        He made some foolish choices, but not out of malice and certainly not intentionally….as opposed to Obama.Mistakes are forgiveable. Treachery and evil intent, not so much.

    • JimB

      How did you all like the picture of him bowing to a foreign diplomat from Saudi Arabia? He seems to want to get the prime suspect out of town before he can be fully questioned. And the Saudi's want that too. He has a lot of nerve insulting Bush when he's DOING THE SAME THINGS. At least Bush didn't go around apologizing for us and acting like we're some third world nation. Oh well. Wait a bit and Iran and N. Korea will gang up in a surprise attack and send us all back 250 years in technology. It's called EMP folks and, yes it's real and not "imaginary". The only reason our great leaders have ignored it is they have not effective defense and only local methods would work. And those will cost a lot of cash. Which all the politicians want in their re-election funds.

  • truebearing

    If Obama was merely a feckless fool, like Chamberlain, we could at least give him credit for meaning well. Obama doesn't mean well. His creation of a weaker US, and the power vacuum that predictably followed, was 100% intentional.

    Obama is nothing short of evil. History will record Obama as America's Nero, its scourge, its Meccan Horse, but he will bring destruction to the rest of the world as well with his Pandora's Open Box policies (courtesy of Soros' Open Society Institute agenda).

  • Rostislav

    Sad to say it, but I see absolutely no signs of the US re-emergence as a world power. Nowhere. Just a lot of signs for quite the opposite process. And while majorities will be as willing as now to vote for Obamas, Putins, Maduros, Hollandes, Gillards etc. (and they will, oh, they surely will!), this opposite process will be rapidly closing its natural Orwellian end, – even if Iranian or Korean rocket would be shot down at the very start. Rostislav, Saint-Petersburg, Russia.

    • Ghostwriter

      Don't count us out yet,Rostislav. We Americans can bounce back but it will take the right leadership. President Obama is acting foolish,believing that the world's problems are America's fault when the exact opposite is true.

      • Rostislav

        "Right leadership"? You are right, the right leadership is sine qua non condition, indeed, but tell me, what leadership can be more right, than Sarah Palin or, say, Allen West? Meanwhile, your voters were looking at their efforts like some Romans, amused by gladiators' show. Or your country is waiting for some ideal St.George to lead Americans for the dragon's slaying? The legends are fine, but they are just legends, while Palins and Wests are quite real and, so to say, quite reachable… It's voters, who seem to be unreachable for the right leaders, unfortunately. Rostislav.

  • logdon

    I was once pretty much agnostic left. Here in Britain during my Sixties youth, the Conservatives were viewed by the young as out of touch, stuffy and on the side of both an unreformed establishment and unreformed establishment wealth.

    It was a kind of default position bolstered by what I now know as propaganda and many of us, full of good intention fell for it.

    As I grew older the scales of my agnosticism fell and as my interest in politics grew so too did my knowledge.

    I'd disliked our pathetic wheedling successor to Thatcher, PM John Major but when confronted by Blair began to realise what snake oil really means and thus a grand awakening began.

    Post 9/11 sealed my convictions and I began to seek out a truth the msm would never touch because either via threat, coercion or plain idiocy Islam was sanctified as untouchable.

    My first foray into a realm of unbleached, stripped to the bone honesty was Robert Spencer's Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam.

    And from that his site, Jihad Watch.

    And from that, Front Page.

    And from that, Atlas.

    And from that the many others which like flowers of truth, grew from the rich mulch of fact and not a warped sense of self regarding and misplaced philanthropy. Or putting it more frankly, hypocrisy.

    Greenfield's peerless stances combined with an erudite yet approachable writing style immediately endeared me, drew me in and Sultan Knish was bookmarked.

    He is now amongst a league of many, a pantheon of like minded thinkers and writers who have exploded the stultifying bubble of cultural relativism and rather than being guided by some kind of fudging (or maybe Mailer's, fugging?) dogma actually tells the truth.

    I'm now of the belief that whilst the Left is regressing into a name calling infantilised entity which relies on the straw man rather than any objectivity, the so called Right is attracting the real intellects who in an age of reason would be hailed as hero's.

    Unfortunately reason has departed the mainstream room and we are left with a weepy emotionalism which is about as valid as the selling of pre-Lutherian relics of the cross to people desirous of atonement.

    In other words, it's as if The Enlightenment had never happened and a descent into a kuffar version of jahilaya is progressing apace.

    As Rome and all the others discovered, loss of empire is never entirely down to the marauding Goths and Vandals but a diminution of self confidence and faith within itself.

    That’s what did and is currently occurring in Europe and now Obama's America.

    We, putting it mildly, are in for some interesting times.

    • Indioviejo

      Excellent. Worthy corollary to Daniel's clear thinking. I too think we have seen our best days and that the future, if nothing else will be very bleak. I am saddened for my children and grandchildren's sake.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Thank you

      In a childish age, emotion trumps reason. The child-man is forever unhappy because he is unable to see past his own feelings. He is forever angry at his father/mother, resentful of a world too big for him and willing to embrace any ideology that offers him a chance to trade reason for emotional satisfaction

      • trickyblain

        Wow. Speak for yourself, buddy. This from a man who writes an article attributing everything bad in in the world to "Carter, Clinton and Obama." A man whose entire catalog is aimed at fanning fear (an emotion) among the lesser educated. Seems your emotional satisfaction, in being cheered by the choir, trumps reason. Because reason tells us that we are still the worlds largest economy (by a factor of two). Reason tells us we are still the worlds premier "hard power" AND "soft power." Reason (and my 401k) tells us that the market is outstanding at the moment. Therefore, nothing is reasonable about your conclusion that "American power finally collapsed." Nothing. The closest it's come was in 2008, a crisis you won't mention because a Republican was in office at the time. Yeah, no emotion there.

        • knucklehead

          tricky, if you're talking about the economic dowturn, that too, was democrat's fault. Thank the likes of Barney Frank and others who reassured us that Fanny Mae and Freddy Mack were "just fine", shortly before they collapsed. GW warned us repeatedly that sub-prime mortgages were a bad idea but the democrats were too determined to force the banks and lending institutions to give mortgages to people who couldn't afford them and didn't deserve them. The loan default/foreclosure epidemic was the obvious result. You really need to stop with the liberal lying ("liberal lying" — sorry for the redundancy).

          And yes, my beloved America is in decline, thanks in large part to Obama's culture of wealth redistribution and the entitlement mentality so pervasive in this country today. When the takers outnumber the makers, sooner or later the whole system collapses under the weight of the "gimme" class.

          • EarlyBird

            Knucklehead, EVERY president and EVERY politician of every stripe had been on the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac bandwagon. Name one single politician who didn't have an interest in continuing that gravy train? Every politician would glady take credit for being part of the biggest expansion in American home ownership.

            No, the entire system was being ignored because nobody wants to be a party pooper. This was Clinton's AND W. Bush's "fault" at least.

        • Daniel Greenfield

          A man jumps out of a forty story building. Two stories off the ground, he says, "So far, so good."

          • trickyblain

            Funny. But I'm thinking more along the lines of Aesop in terms of this article: "He would often become bored and to amuse himself he would call out, 'Wolf! Wolf,' although there was no wolf about."

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "…to amuse himself he would call out, 'Wolf! Wolf,' although there was no wolf about."

            All the world's problems can be traced to boredom. Are jihadis also bored?

            Just asking because you're so smart.

          • trickyblain

            You tell me. No music. No drinking. Complete segregation from women until marriage, and even if you happen to see one they are covered head-to-toe in a formless rag.

            You just might be on to something here!

          • Mary Sue

            but they believe their religion demands that they stamp that out!

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "You just might be on to something here!"

            Now take that simple observation and build policy around it, ignoring all other evidence and you too can be a Democrat. Don't forget to mention that their boredom is in fact caused directly or indirectly by Western imperialism.

          • EarlyBird

            "Don't forget to mention that their boredom is in fact caused directly or indirectly by Western imperialism."

            It's not "caused" by it; it's just that we're in the way of their rampage. If we didn't have a presence in their backyard, they wouldn't hate us so much, no matter how whacked out they are. Or, at least we wouldn't be unnecessarily in the line of fire.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "If we didn't have a presence in their backyard, they wouldn't hate us so much, no matter how whacked out they are. Or, at least we wouldn't be unnecessarily in the line of fire."

            They're in our backyard. Good thing we're keeping so many busy "over there."

          • Drakken

            The only one in denial about reality is you dain bramaged. The wold is at the door, and you just can't believe your lying eyes, frankly folks like you who get eaten by the wolf neither deserve empathy nor sympathy because you were the architecs of your own demise.

          • EarlyBird

            It's always the End of the Republic! The sky is always falling, isn't it, General?

            No, we're moving into a new era which you don't understand. It's one which is pluralistic in all ways – ethnic, racial, religious, sexual – and that scares the pants off you. We are also living in truly multi-polar world rather than one where there is just the US vs. Tyranny.

            Your national identity crisis is understandable. What is not acceptable is your paranoia and blaming it on Obama, and "libruls!"

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "It's always the End of the Republic! The sky is always falling, isn't it, General? "

            It would have been over a long time ago without anyone like us to defend it.

            Ingrate.

        • kate5778b

          "Fanning fear among the lesser educated".

          That would be you, then, only you don't seem to be afraid, because you are unable to understand the times, or see similar patterns in history; nor do you understand what you read in the Qur'an and Sunna or "the Reliance of the Traveller" the Islamic book of jurisprudence…….be afraid, legitimately. Just because rape/torture/loss of business/kidnap is not happening at your backdoor, doesn't mean it can never happen to you; and why doesn't this anger you? It is happening and now to 1000s of people.

          Reason has all been forgotten for political correctness which means critical thinking and having a sensible debate, especially about Israel is impossible, as the pro-Islamists (because that is what they foolishly are) block debate.

        • logdon

          To shorten and paraphrase Pastor Niemoller's famous quote

          When they came for the Jews,
          I remained silent;
          I wasn't a Jew.

          When they came for the smug,
          there was no one left to speak out.

          • trickyblain

            Above, Greenfield laments the alleged substitution of emotion for reason on the part of the left. This is in an article laced with comments demonstrating terrified panic.

            Logdon, I respectfully ask you to identify one tangible fact in the following paragraph. Without facts, how can there be reason?

            "And then American power finally collapsed. There had been early warning signs under Carter and Clinton, but with Obama it finally happened. The message went out that there was no longer a great power to serve as a stabilizing influence. If anyone wanted to discuss global warming or a fund to empower women in Southeast Asia, they could come down to Washington, but if they wanted to discuss how to use the balance of power keep the world from falling apart, they were out of luck."

          • logdon

            Kim. Karzai. Ahmedinejad. Obviously quaking in their boots.

          • LindaRivera

            Hi logdon, I'm trying again to reply to under your name. It didn't post last time. Another excellent site is http://www.barenakedislam.com See: http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/04/17/presiden

            Have you heard about Paul Weston's new political party, Liberty GB? It is Britain's last great hope!
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            Have a good weekend, logdon!

          • EarlyBird

            The hilarity of it all is that lil' Danny Greenfield harps on the emotionalism that can be found on the left, but his entire career is devoted to whipping people into an emotional frenzy and pushing their cultural panic buttons. He's still indicting '60s Communists!

            He feeds his dull-witted acolytes red meat and fear – nothing BUT emotion. Very, very little information is provided.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "He's still indicting '60s Communists! "

            Leftists like you hate history when it interferes with your narratives. Which frankly is almost every time.

          • EarlyBird

            Huh. You read, "dull-witted acolytes" and immediately knew I was describing you.

        • AnOrdinaryMan

          Reason may tell me that we are still the world's largest economy; but reason also tells me that the U.S. is in serious trouble; with nearly $17,000,000,000,000 in debt, and the Fed printing millions in increasingly worthless paper every day. Inflation is being kept in check, for the moment, by very low interest rates on savings accounts and CD's. But when interest rates start to rise, we're going to get inflation, galloping inflation like you've never seen before. The value of your 401K will plummet. And I haven't mentioned our serious trade imbalance with China; while Obama is gutting our military. The stock market might be fine today and tomorrow, but….where are the jobs Obama promised to create? Take reason a bit further, you'll see what I mean.

          • trickyblain

            All very fair, and concerning, points. Good post. There's no doubt that it's a changing world, but do really really see things that bleak?

            I'm 41 years old and can't remember a time in which there hasn't been a huge debt. Seems to be a crisis only when "the other party" is in power. In terms of interests rates and inflation, we shall see.

            And if Romney were elected, or Obama never even existed, how would the state of the world economy, or Chinese power, or the Arab Spring (which Bush predicted — as a positive event — after invading Iraq) be any different than it is today?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "And if Romney were elected…"

            We would have continued the fine tradition of firing poor-performing politicians.

            "…or Obama never even existed, how would the state of…"

            Things would have tilted back, away from "change for the sake of change" and the leader of the USA would no longer be a lying communist. If you think that doesn't add up to much, there's not much point in continuing here.

            OTOH, you might enjoy further reading on the true causes of the bank collapses. If your reading comprehension is up to it, you might then realize why the USA can only tolerate the occasional Democratic Party POTUS without destroying itself with stupidity.

            And then there is the foreign policy of Carter, Clinton and 0'Bama. Blame Bush for not rectifying all the sins of his predecessors but if you can't discern differences, then again I'll have to consider that you're a lost cause for now.

            Or we could just decide that all cultures are really equal in "value" and that the West is only richer because of historical colonialism aka theft. All those other developing countries like Palestine would have successful space programs and the world would be near perfect if not for Cortez and the murderers who followed him and took all of the gold, and the oil and the other stuff like money trees and productivity machines developed in the third world.

            How would the world be different? We might still have Saudi infiltration in the government and CAIR would still be crying out as victims (unless we get to eliminate ALL leftists) but the MB would not be in power and al Qaeda would not be so openly working with the MB as they all come out of the closet and pretend to be statesmen rather than terrorists pursuing the global Shia caliphate.

            And without people exasperated about leftist malicious interference in dealing with Islamic terror, that would free up intellectual and capital resources to deal more closely with Asia, specifically with China. Russia would then get the hint and realize it's big chance never really existed.

          • EarlyBird

            And now for another installment of Poor Misunderstood OFM:

            "We would have continued the fine tradition of firing poor-performing politicians."

            WTF? What does that even mean?! Obama has installed himself as President for Life?

            "…and the leader of the USA would no longer be a lying communist."

            Uh huh. He's not just a standard, traditional liberal worthy of criticism, but an actual "Communist!"

            We'd all love to hear you explain "…the true causes of the bank collapses."

            Not that you are capable of an explanation, just allusions to something SO OBVIOUS that only a "communist!" couldn't understand.

            By refusing to actually write things out, you don't have to actually confront how absurd your partisan bubble is. And you have the gall to call yourself "objective facts matter." You don't even know what facts are.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "WTF? What does that even mean?! Obama has installed himself as President for Life?"

            You're proud of your stupidity? Firing a first-term president means when runs and fails to get elected for a second term. Like Carter.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Uh huh. He's not just a standard, traditional liberal worthy of criticism, but an actual "Communist!""

            His father was a communist and so was his "mentor" Frank Marshall Davis, AKA "Pops" who indoctrinated him during his formative years. His mother was a communist who could only get long with Indonesian communists.

            There are no "actual" communists any longer because nobody in power admits it. Frank Marshall Davis was a card carrying member.

            Don't let ANY of the facts disturb your fantasies.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "We'd all love to hear you explain "…the true causes of the bank collapses.""

            You admit you don't know?

          • EarlyBird

            Correct, I admit I don't know what twisted partisan fantasy is in your head.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            So you admit you don't know why the banks collapsed other than mentioning Fannie Mae.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Not that you are capable of an explanation, just allusions to something SO OBVIOUS that only a "communist!" couldn't understand."

            I've mentioned it at least a half dozen times in the past few weeks already. If you have the answer, spit it out. You're a terrible bluffer Mr. Burke. I'll call you Mr. Rousseau.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "By refusing to actually write things out, you don't have to actually confront how absurd your partisan bubble is. And you have the gall to call yourself "objective facts matter." You don't even know what facts are."

            Actually what I'm establishing is that you don't have the facts. When I do reveal my entire point in a single comment, people like you strike the pose that you already knew this and already factored it in. I'm exposing liars and bluffers like you.

            It just takes patience on my part. What's really amazing is how many times I've exposed you this way and you still fall for it.

          • AnOrdinaryMan

            I grant you that if Romney/Ryan had been elected, they would be in the middle of trying to stop the runaway spending that's ruining the U.S.; and it would take up a good chunk of Romney's term, and they would get blamed by the media, for the effects of Obama's adding $5 trillion to the national debt in only 4 years. You're right about both parties spending too much, because Bush didn't exactly rein in spending. But the debt was WAY smaller, in January 1989, when Reagan left office. Surely, you can remember that. As for the so called Arab spring, that's almost entirely Obama's failure. Also remember that, even now, Obama won't even consider a budget that cuts spending, except to the military.

          • EarlyBird

            "…because Bush didn't exactly rein in spending."

            No s**t! W. exploded the debt, by expanding Medicare and adding up $1 Trillion Dollars at least, in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's seems right wingers don't count debt when it's used for war.

            "As for the so called Arab spring, that's almost entirely Obama's failure."

            W. himself constantly harped on about how Iraq would create the very Arab "Spring" we're seeing. Obama made some magical speech in Egypt once, and that apparently inflamed all of the Arab world?

            And how about considering Arabs a real people with their own history, rather than objects that US presidents either manage to inflame or oppress?

            "…even now, Obama won't even consider a budget that cuts spending, except to the military." And the GOP won't even consider a single penny in tax hikes on the richest Americans, and want to INCREASE military spending and cut everything else.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "No s**t! W. exploded the debt, by expanding Medicare and adding up $1 Trillion Dollars at least, in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's seems right wingers don't count debt when it's used for war. "

            Bush was not a right winger you more-on. His problem was that he felt so guilty about going to war that he compromised with leftist ideals rather than asking the nation to wake up to the facts of life about what it means to be at war.

            My sense is that because he believed it would last for so long that he didn't want to frighten people with reality. He might have been right. All I can say is that I'd rather have leaders that try to lead rather than trying to assure reelection.

            But his compromises at least made some sense. Giving in to leftists is not as bad as being a delusional leftist. He was the best the party could come up with.

            Defending 0'Bama based on Bush's presidency is about as lame as it gets. 0'Bama is the one who promised a focus on domestic growth in exchange for reining in military spending. He shrinks the military and bribes our enemies.

            That makes 0'Bama an enemy of the state given that is who he sides with 100% of the time.

            And then there are his communist-collectivist domestic policies. OMG.

            And you defend him even after it's been explained over and over. All you have is denial to pretend you can't understand it and therefore maybe the argument is not valid if you as the angry-crazy-bird can't agree or even process it.

          • EarlyBird

            Who described W. Bush a "right winger," idiot?

            Yeah, the utter disaster that was his presidency is about "leftists." Wow, you're weird. If a tree falls on your house you'll find a way to blame "leftists."

            If you want to know why the GOP is no longer taken seriously on foreign policy, the one thing we had locked down, is the W disaster, and Fox News-soaked Tea Bagging idiots who refuse to hold him responsible. "We coulda won Vietnam if its wasn't for the Left!"

            And Obama is a "communist!" You're an absolute tragedy, Objy.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "W. himself constantly harped on about how Iraq would create the very Arab "Spring" we're seeing. Obama made some magical speech in Egypt once, and that apparently inflamed all of the Arab world? "

            Bush wanted democracy and certainly compromised too much according to the advice of Saudis, who he clearly should not have trusted so much. As it gets more clear, why would the president who follows Bush triple-down or worse every time the Saudis snap their fingers? "Bush did it" is no excuse from someone who blames Bush for everything.

            The POTUS making a speech does not have to be "magic." He's the most powerful man in the world and that means a lot when you're in Egypt and the POTUS invites and illegal Islamic jihadi party to attend and then uses the speech to follow over backwards to accept all of the Jihadi victim narratives as valid grievances.

            Don't let ANY of the facts interrupt your silly rants. 0'Bama did not "inflame" the jihadis. He signaled empathy and appeasement. Mohammed inflamed them and the imams continue that work with your willing assistance.

            If you can't even articulate the points we make, who could believe that your rebuttals have any value? I think nobody with a brain larger than about of a centimeter wide.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "And how about considering Arabs a real people with their own history, rather than objects that US presidents either manage to inflame or oppress?"

            It's amazing how you can get to the heart of the matter by accident and then still miss the point entirely. They lie about their history. The ones who don't lie about their history are not the ones causing the problems dooshe-bag.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            >"…even now, Obama won't even consider a budget that cuts spending, except to the military."

            "And the GOP won't even consider a single penny in tax hikes on the richest Americans, and want to INCREASE military spending and cut everything else."

            We know that we're spending too much and 0'Bama's answer is that it can all be solved by merely raising taxes on "the rich." It's a communist lie. Why should they buy in to communist lies the way suckers like you do?

            You're the guy that has no clue what caused the banking crisis, unaware that 0'Bama was on the wrong side of it for most of his career and is trying the same thing as we speak.

          • AnOrdinaryMan

            And it seems left-wing demagogues don't count debt when its used for anything except war. "Obama made some magical speech in Egypt once, and that inflamed the whole Arab world?" Really, aren't you forgetting a few things? Like how Zero orchestrated Mubarak's fall, and supported the Libyan rebels against Ghaddafi, not to mention his betrayal of the four Americans that were killed in Benghazi; and how we still don't know who the Benghazi survivors are? Your posts make the needle on my s**t detector jump off the scale. "And how about considering Arabs are a real people, with their own history…" I've never said or implied anything to the contrary, and you also know that tax increases on the rich won't make a dent in Obama's criminal spending habits. You get the Goebbels Award for being the biggest, most ignorant egotistical blowhard on this post; but you still haven't said a d–n thing.

      • EarlyBird

        "In a childish age, emotion trumps reason. The child-man is forever unhappy because he is unable to see past his own feelings. He is forever angry at his father/mother, resentful of a world too big for him and willing to embrace any ideology that offers him a chance to trade reason for emotional satisfaction."

        Wow. Talk about unself-aware. You just described yourself, and your acolytes on FPM. You spend your entire waking life thrashing at a world that is too big for you to understand, slapping at by-gone "communists!," and clinging to created American myths.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Wow. Talk about unself-aware. You just described yourself, and your acolytes on FPM. You spend your entire waking life thrashing at a world that is too big for you to understand, slapping at by-gone "communists!," and clinging to created American myths."

          Says Rousseau's number one spiritual child, who obviously bought in to the lies of Zinn and Stone.

          America itself is a myth. Really just a bunch of thieves who can't do anything. They stole the space program from the Palestinians and the silicon chip from the Aztecs.

          • EarlyBird

            Oh, we're proud of you that you know Burke and Rousseau! Good for you. You're still an idiot.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Oh, we're proud of you that you know Burke and Rousseau! Good for you. You're still an idiot."

            It's funny how you puke your delusions all over these comment pages day after day. Thanks for the chuckles.

            You're the one that tried to identify yourself with Burke and I was simply helping you get a bit closer to your true spiritual ancestors.

    • LindaRivera

      Hi logdon, Another excellent site is http://www.barenakedislam.com See: http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/04/17/presiden

      Have you heard about Paul Weston's new political party, Liberty GB? It is Britain's last great hope!
      I hope you will join and support Liberty GB and tell everyone you know about Liberty GB! http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/

      You may like to read: David Cameron Declares War on the EDL http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-liberty

      Have a good weekend, logdon!

      • logdon

        Thankyou Linda. You too. I hope that wherever you are that the weather is better than here in damp, cold and blowy England.

        I already subscribe to BNI, JW, Atlas and am aware of Paul Weston.

        Quite frankly he hasn't got a cat in hell's chance. Our saviour is more likely to be anti EU, Nigel Farage and his UKIP Party which is making great strides.

        Their policy hinges on the horrendous corruption of Brussells and also an anti-immigration stance. which, at least would stop more of the buggers coming in.

        As for Cameron he's a CINO conservative in name only and he's also toast.

        My view is that whilst Britain had lost its former glory a long time ago, at least we were, pre Blair a proud nation, welcoming and strong in our beliefs.

        Now, somewhat like Daniel's description of America with a ten year headstart in self destruction.

        • LindaRivera

          Hi logdon, Getting out of the EU and stopping immigration is very urgent for TINY, CRIMINALLY overcrowded and colonized with Muslims, Britain. As far as Paul Weston's party, Liberty GB, is concerned, things can change drastically even though at this time you don't believe the party has a chance.

          The UKIP wants to get Britain out of the EU. That is good; but what most people are unaware of is that the UKIP is an EXTREMELY VINDICTIVE party!

          Look at UKIP requirements for joining the UKIP! British Freedom Party (which is no longer in existence) and the English Defence League are intensely HATED by the UKIP! Apparently, being deeply patriotic and wanting to protect the British people and deal with the terrifying problems of totalitarian, MURDEROUS Islam makes you UNACCEPTABLE to the UKIP and bars you from becoming a member of UKIP:

          http://www.ukip.org/helpukip
          Membership is not available to anyone who is or has previously been a member of the British National Party, National Front, British Freedom Party, British People’s Party, English Defence League, Britain First or the UK First Party. Any applications made from people who are or have been members of these organisations will be refused, and any subscriptions collected will be refunded.

          By applying for membership you certify that you are not and have never been a member of either of these parties. http://www.ukip.org/helpukip

          • logdon

            Hello again Linda

            UKIP is playing the game and in certain instances with valid reason.

            Both the BNP and NF are extremely nasty and blindly racist parties. Both are anti-semitic, Nick Griffin who heads the BNP is a Holocaust denier.

            When the perfectly logical concern of Muslim infiltration, domination and refusal to integrate is cover for hating anyone with brown or black skin, thats when they sink to the level of xenophobic islamism.

            As for the EDL. it's unfortunate that Tommy Robinson has surrounded himselves by a particularly English tribe called football casuals.

            Via past association these people are successors to a brand of English football supporters which carved swathes of violence and chaos across an Eighties Europe.

            They were the original skinheads and wherever they went trouble followed.

            In a not too long ago past they'd be in the Army where their inate aggression could be channelled and they'd probably be the equals of Wellingtons men at Waterloo.

            They've calmed down but whenever the UAF and EDL clash ruction occurs and it's the EDL which cops the blame.

            So purely from a political standpoint UKIP want nothing to do with them.

            A sad indictment of the state of politics but there it is and if Farage has any chance of success he has to toe a moderately politically correct line.

            It's the inherent dishonesty of politics coupled with low information voters and until that shield which prevents truly honest discourse has been pierced we are stalled, going nowhere and at the beck and call of the EU.

          • LindaRivera

            Hi logdon, I was born in Britain and I am ETERNALLY grateful to the EDL for their street demos protesting the cruel gang-rapes and forced prostitution of terrorized non-Muslim British children by FILTH demonic Muslim MONSTERS. How desperately I wish that EVERY Brit would take to the streets in mass protests!

            You can read, David Cameron Declares War on the EDL http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-liberty

            You might want to also read my comment on the article, in the comment section, and maybe you will understand how important it is to me. I have also mentioned other SIMILAR things that have taken place in Britain and are STILL taking place. GOD HELP the CHILDREN. I can never forget.

          • logdon

            Hello Linda

            Cameron loves his posturing. Remember he's put Saayeda Warsi in charge of his department of religion and faith.

            She's a second generation Pakistani whose father made good. She was also involved in some shady financial shennanigans which slowed her progress but I see she's back again as if nothing had happened.

            Llord Ahmed, the same thing but different circumstances. Thats how it seems to happen.

            But the rape/grooming scandals which are now oozing out of the woodwork after ten years of police and social services inaction indicate how far the whole thing has descended. It is beyond disgrace.

            It is a pact whereby young girls can be treated as sexual cattle and the police sit on their thumbs citing 'community cohesion' as excuse.

            It can't go on and people are at last talking.

            Here's a site which offers insight. http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/

  • MeSoHornish

    "There's an old saying in Tennessee. I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee – that says, fool me once, shame on – shame on you. Fool me – you can't get fooled again."

  • Will

    America is in the process of becoming the United States of Detroits. No great nation can survive if its cities lie in ruin. Too many of our people wish to live on the plantation.

  • M. Michel

    The ultimate goal of the Islam is World Domination and forcing their Sharia Law upon all people!
    First they have to fight amongst themselves to decide who will succeed as the winner — the Sunnies,
    or the Shieits. The way things are going lately, I think the greatest power lies with the Sunnies. They are
    working hard to produce strong forces for the Jihad. But Iran and Pakistan are also busy with their nukes.
    The Islam is now taking over the whole of Africa, and Asia. Christians and other religious minorities,
    are suffering greatly everyday. It seems that they are especially targeting women and girls. Whom they
    see as having only one task in life: producing as many SONS as possible, to be trained for the Jihad,
    at a very young age. The girls are forced to leave their education and jobs at a very young age, to be
    forced into marriage, and to become pregant as soon as possible.
    After they havve taken over Africa and Asia, Europe will be next, followed by North and South America.

    • JimB

      It's what we in the nuclear field call a "target rich environment". The fact is, God actually loves these guys enough that Jesus died for them too. Not sure I could do that. I'm not nearly as peaceful or understanding as to take abuse from a thankless ignorant mob. But, Judgement is coming soon to the earth near you. So, as Jesus said, "repent for the kingdom of God is at hand."

  • antisharia

    We're finished. Americas best days are decidedly behind us and the curtain is rapidly coming down on the land of the free and the home of the brave. We have no one to blame but ourselves. We dumbed ourselves to death by allowing the marxists to take over the education system, we opened up our borders to ever illiterate, lazy, and politically radical person in the world. America is on the fast track to becoming a third world nation, and that is if it survives as one country. More likely we'll break up into Balkan like enclaves and spend the next century killing each other. I don't know who the next superpower is going to be but our days are numbered, and there aren't that many left.

    • Danny

      Hmmm, if I were you, I'd save time and commit suicide now.

    • JimB

      Per the Bible, this generation WILL see the return of Jesus Christ. So, with that, there will be NO MORE "nation states" as we know them. Jesus will set up HIS Kingdom on earth. Prior to that there should be Psalms 83's war with Israel's near neighbors being defeated and Isaiah 17's "destruction of Damascus". Then shortly after that, there will be a war with Israel's further out neighbors including Libya and Iran in the destruction detailed in Ezekial 38&39. After that, Israel will be at peace and will make a peace deal with the Anti-christ for 7 years. It will be a "security pact" along the lines of NATO and probably it will be WITH NATO. After seven years of this earth being judged by God, the nations will gather to fight against Jesus at the battle of Armageddon. The Chinese will be the most likely "leaders" of the "armies of the kings of the East" which will number 200 million men. The anti-christ will bring the armies of the West and South into the battle. All will be defeated by just His speech. And Obama thought he could give an effective speech.

  • rbla

    As shown by Boston, America will end not with a whimper but with a series of small bangs.

    • KarshiKhanabad

      Lots of those small bangs will come from the rifles of patriots. Rifles behind every blade of grass. Obama gun confiscation was dealt a huge defeat today. Even Democrat senators aren't that stupid, Feinstein excepted. This isn't 1968 or 1994 and they know it, they don't act freely in a vacuum anymore.

      Correction: there will be a rifle behind every door as it is kicked in.

  • migsatsix

    Dan, for those that have not experienced war first hand; we all lose be it with our lives or the other sides lives, our humanity, our souls, our feelings for others-nobody wins. The wars winner, if you could call it that, didn't get beat as bad as the other guy. We pray and hope there will be no war and we can center our attention and make our own country and people better. MiG's

    • Drakken

      War one way or another is the human condition and always has been, the peace now crowd makes war more brutal and longer lasting than neccessary.

      • migsatsix

        Drakken, never thought of it that way, but yes you are correct-the morons running the show will not let the military do their jobs, that is, if they are capable of doing so. M

  • Dennis

    Everyone, please look in he mirror tonight before going to bed and after thinking about the following:

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
    Edmund Burke

    Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little.
    Edmund Burke

    ( http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/e/edmun… )

    If you can take the time to Comment here, you can take the time to write your Senators, Congressmen, Governor, Mayor, etc. JUST DO IT!

  • flowerknife_us

    The price of Fundamental change.

    The Military would not be cut like it has if the "war" was meant to be won.

    The shrinking of the Navy for a country dependent on Imports like we are is quite frankly-Criminal.

    Look at the Faith and Political ideologies bordering all the Major shipping choke points and wonder the ramifications of them being closed.

  • Johnconrad

    Shrinking of the Navy?

    Hey, I heard we used to use bayonets – but don't anymore. So, why worry about the Navy?

  • Gee59

    I remember when Carter decided to give away the Panama Canal. I was in the US Army at the time and thought that the President should have been impeached for TREASON at the time. Being in uniform at the time I was not allowed to voice that thought.

    After his totally failure over Iran I knew that I was correct the first time

    • jacob

      Jimmy Who was a disgrace and the present President….

      I heard that he asked the Venezuelan "government" to recount the votes as asked by the opposition
      and its National Election Council in which 4 "rectors" are govmt. tags and only one is opposition not
      only refused but went ahead and proclaimed MADURO President….!!!!
      But OBAMA has now the opportunity of fixing their wagon and at the same time, take care of the
      Cuban satrapy :
      Ban the import of Venezuelan oil and warn our "friendly countries" that whoever helps the
      Venezuelan oil monopoly sell its oil elsewhere, can erase the USA from its customer's directory…
      Rest assured in less than one month the whole building collapses, Cuba included…..
      Will Obama do it…???
      I don't intend to lose any sleep over it….

  • http://www.clarespark.com clarespark

    Check out the upper-class Anti-Imperialist League starting in the late 19th century. There has always been an elite faction that eschewed American power abroad. It finds resonance today in the isolationism of Ron Paul and his followers. See http://clarespark.com/2012/09/14/ron-paul-anarchi… a guest blog by Phillip Smyth. "Ron Paul: Anarchist in Chief."

  • http://www.clarespark.com clarespark

    Check out the upper-class Anti-Imperialist League starting in the late 19th century. There has always been an elite faction that eschewed American power abroad. It finds resonance today in the isolationism of Ron Paul and his followers. See http://clarespark.com/2012/09/14/ron-paul-anarchi… a guest blog by Phillip Smyth. "Ron Paul: Anarchist in Chief."

  • http://www.clarespark.com clarespark

    Check out the upper-class Anti-Imperialist League starting in the late 19th century. There has always been an elite faction that eschewed American power abroad. It finds resonance today in the isolationism of Ron Paul and his followers. See http://clarespark.com/2012/09/14/ron-paul-anarchi… a guest blog by Phillip Smyth. "Ron Paul: Anarchist in Chief."

  • http://www.clarespark.com clarespark

    Check out the upper-class Anti-Imperialist League starting in the late 19th century. There has always been an elite faction that eschewed American power abroad. It finds resonance today in the isolationism of Ron Paul and his followers. See http://clarespark.com/2012/09/14/ron-paul-anarchi… a guest blog by Phillip Smyth. "Ron Paul: Anarchist in Chief."

  • http://www.clarespark.com clarespark

    Check out the upper-class Anti-Imperialist League starting in the late 19th century. There has always been an elite faction that eschewed American power abroad. It finds resonance today in the isolationism of Ron Paul and his followers. See http://clarespark.com/2012/09/14/ron-paul-anarchi… a guest blog by Phillip Smyth. "Ron Paul: Anarchist in Chief."

  • cxt

    My guess? And worth ever penny you paid for it. ;)

    Serious historians will look back on the Obama years with the same incredulous head shaking they do with the Neville Chamberline (sp) years and his "peace in our time" nonsense.

    "How" they will ask "how did he not see this coming?" "How is it possible that so many educated, intellegent people to be so wrong on so many things?

    And for many years after it will be held up as an example of what happens when ideology is allowed to trump reality. When "hope and change" becomes more powerful than reason and logic.

    In the short term the Obama years will be hailed, mainly by the Left, as a "triumph" of some short—but after the glitter washes off and the lustre fades a bit—things will look much differently.

  • LindaRivera

    (A must read): An Islamic Declaration of War on Christianity http://frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/an-i

    American president Obama WILL NOT object to Islam's Declaration of War on Christianity. Devout Muslim Obama at the UN: "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.". Some people consider that a DEATH threat to those who tell the TRUTH about Islam.

    There is only ONE ethical response to Islam's war on Christians: Not one more mosque must be allowed to be built in our Free World countries. That is the proper moral response. But Western ruling elites HATE our Wonderful, Glorious, God – our Awesome Creator, the Bible, Jews and Christians. Western ruling elites prefer the death god of Islam. They worship the SAME god, but give their god a different name, but same god, different name.

    gatestoneinstitute.org: Germany Cracks Down on Critics of Mega-Mosque

    The Bavarian branch of Germany’s domestic intelligence agency, the Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz (BfV), has placed under state surveillance German activists accused of fomenting hate against Muslims due to their opposition to the construction of a mega-mosque in Munich. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3678/germany-me

    Turkey's Prime Minister Erdogan: “The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers”.

    Although non-Muslims seek peacefully to defend our freedom and ENSLAVEMENT by Islam, and are loyal citizens of their countries, it is they who are tracked by intelligence agencies and also viciously persecuted in Britain by ruling elites.

    MUSLIMS CALL THEIR MILITARY COMMAND CENTERS, MOSQUES:
    http://www.wnd.com
    40,000 Iran agents in Western Hemisphere
    Now hidden in Latin America, awaiting ‘operations’ against U.S.
    “We must get ready for global operation. … Our fellow fighters are present in all five continents of the world. … An international jihad must be provoked; we must fear no one.”

    The Revolutionary Guards’ intelligence division runs operations out of mosques.

    Those operations include recruitment, reconnaissance and transfer of arms and cash.

    This source also verified then that all Imam Ali Mosques are controlled by regime intelligence operatives and that the cells are well placed in Europe and America for terrorist acts… http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/army-of-iran-sadists-p

    • Drakken

      The day the Persians let their jihadist out of their cages and wreak havoc in western countries is the day islam no matter the stripe becomes an endangered species along with their leftist Quisling allies. Make no mistake, there will be war,at first it will seem we are on the losing end, but as our anger and with our common enemy, the west will with no remorse and with resolute conviction, bring warfare to a whole new level. The ayatollahs will be instead of looking for the madhi to return by crawling out of a well, they will be hiding in them.

  • LindaRivera

    TREASONOUS Western leaders are facilitating Islamic conquest of our countries.

    British and European ruling elites have massively colonized their countries with many millions of infidel-hater Muslims eager to OBEY commands in the Quran and mosques to wage jihad against us and conquer our countries. It is the greatest betrayal by nations' leaders in all of human history.

    Join and support Liberty GB, Britain's new political party, Britain's last great hope! http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/

    Persecution of patriotic, courageous Brits:

    David Cameron Declares War on the EDL http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-liberty

    BARENAKEDISLAM: Muslim thugs with weapons threaten English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson’s family outside his home

    Early in the morning of April 9th, a group of rabid Islamist savages gathered in front of Tommy’s home shouting abuse and making threats against Tommy, his family, and other innocent bystanders. Police arrive and make one arrest – Tommy Robinson. http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/04/11/muslim-t

    Culture Crisis: Norway Tackles Muslim Immigration http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed

  • http://shugartpoliticalaction.shugartmedia.com/uncommonsense/ Chris_Shugart

    Being the Alpha Dog of the world has been a responsibility and a burden that the U.S. chose to take on over a century ago. It's been a tough job and remains so. Liberals like to criticize this crucial role by saying, "Americans shouldn't be the policeman of the world." Maybe not. But then who takes our place? Only the most naive would think there aren't nations who dream of being the top dog. I challenge honest liberals to tell me what country they'd rather see in our place.

    • EarlyBird

      Chris, ultimately it doesn't MATTER who is right or wrong about the US not being able to be the world's policeman: WE WILL SIMPLY BANKRUPT OURSELVES IF WE CONTINUE! It's not a matter of "if," but "when."

      I often accuse liberals of not being able to do math. They want to pile on every goodie under the sun, not realizing that ultimately governments go broke that way, and then can't give anything to anybody. But many conservatives don't seem to recognize that the biggest threat to our national security is the debt, and so much of that debt is driven by Defense, and getting ourselves into wars that cost so, so very much.

      It is as sure as the sun sets in the West: WE. WILL. GO. BROKE. If we refuse to grapple with the cost of our empire.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "Chris, ultimately it doesn't MATTER who is right or wrong about the US not being able to be the world's policeman: WE WILL SIMPLY BANKRUPT OURSELVES IF WE CONTINUE! It's not a matter of "if," but "when.""

        What does it mean to be "the world's policeman?" We police our own interests in a high tech world with global trade and open sea lanes. We don't police other sovereigns unless our interests dictate and even then referring to it as "policing" is just deceptive rhetoric that you inherited from your masters.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "I often accuse liberals of not being able to do math. They want to pile on every goodie under the sun, not realizing that ultimately governments go broke that way, and then can't give anything to anybody. But many conservatives don't seem to recognize that the biggest threat to our national security is the debt, and so much of that debt is driven by Defense, and getting ourselves into wars that cost so, so very much."

        Who cares if anyone can follow your math? What's it good for other than using stupidity to bother conservatives?

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "It is as sure as the sun sets in the West: WE. WILL. GO. BROKE. If we refuse to grapple with the cost of our empire."

        By "grapple" you mean accepting that your silly talking points represent the direction we need to go? It's so far over our head that it's not even funny.

        If our "costs" are the only concern why are we spending so much to prop up Muslim Brotherhood Sunni interests around the globe? Someone told you that sharia and jizya is cheaper than "world policeman" costs? Where's the math on that? Don't forget to bribe China and Russia too.

        That might get a little expensive but I'm sure the angry accountant bird worked it all out.

      • http://shugartpoliticalaction.shugartmedia.com/uncommonsense/ Chris_Shugart

        No need for caps, E-Bird. I can shout, don't hear you. But my question remains. If we should bow out regardless of how or why, either someone else moves in or perhaps we descend into a new era of dark ages run by a new breed of Visigoths. Perhaps I should be brushing up on my barbarian tunes.

  • Texas Patriot

    WWIII is, in fact, a continuation of the real world war that began when Muhammad instituted his war of aggression and world conquest and left his followers with the message that the Koran is the word of God, that the work he began must be continued, and that it must be finished no matter how long it takes to the end of time. Even today, Muslims divide the world into those countries which have submitted to Islam and those which have not. For those that have submitted, the war is over and it is just a matter of instituting and enforcing sharia law in the conquered lands. With respect to those that continue to resist Islam, Muslims regard them as being in a state of war with Islam.

    In the Western mind, we think of WWI as a territorial war between Western powers. To the Eastern mind, it was a war in which the Islamic Caliphate joined with the Axis powers to defeat England, France, and America. In reality, the Axis powers were considered by Islam as mere puppets for furthering their own dreams of world conquest. WWII was a continuation of Muhammad's war using the infantile and idiotic Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo as puppets. The result was the virtual destruction of Europe, which paved the way for massive Muslim immigration that we are still seeing today.

    What we may now call WWIII perhaps began 65 years ago with the establish of Israel in one of the most holy places of Islam, Jerusalem and the site of the so-called Temple Mount. For all the horrors the Israeli people have suffered at the hands of Islamic extremists, Israel has done a great favor to the world in helping us understand that the war of Islamic world conquest is ongoing and in fact may be accelerating. The so-called Arab Spring in which fundamentalist Islamic organizations replaced what were formerly basically secular Arab Nationalist governments was perhaps the biggest single victory for Muhammad's view of the world since the demise of the Islamic Caliphate after WWI. Subsequently, after more than forty years of global Islamic terrorism beginning with the Munich Olympics of 1972, it is now high time for the West to realize how things really are, and it's also high time finally to begin reversing the cycle of world aggression and world conquest that began so long ago when Muhammad commenced his mission of world conquest.

    If Muslims want war with the rest of the world, they should have it. Every Islamic attack should be met with a superior counterattack resulting in the forfeiture of lands of the Islamic attackers. This process should continue until the attacks cease or Muslims have no land at all. This is the real world war, and it most assuredly will last until the end of time or for as long as anyone believes that the Koran was the word of God or Muhammad was his prophet.

    • Softly Bob

      ….and the final blow will be the confiscation of Mecca, the destruction of the Kaaba and grand mosque there, the removal and elimination of the Black stone of Allah and an Israeli flag (or U.S. flag – take your pick) planted on the very spot.
      This will be the last nail in the coffin of Islam!

    • Omar

      England is not a country. England is one of four internal divisions (along with Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland) of the United Kingdom (or Britain). Calling the UK "England" is offensive to the people living in the UK's other internal divisions.

      • Texas Patriot

        Which part do you come from?

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  • dougjmiller

    Daniel, I wish you were wrong. But frighteningly I believe your observations are right. We're gonna need a miracle.

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      No we don't need a miracle, we need to as westerners to have a strong spine to do what is neccessary and believe in ourselves again.

  • Texas Patriot

    We just need a change of strategy, that's all. Zero tolerance of immigration of persons with militant ideologies of world conquest. Zero tolerance for development of nuclear weapons by militant nations who directly threaten their neighbors. Instant and overwhelming nuclear response against rogue regimes threatening their neighbors with nuclear weapons. Instant forfeiture of territory for nations harboring terrorists and permitting international terror attacks originating from their soil. Basically we need to grind Islam into the ground and treat it no differently than the ravenous wolf that it is. All this can be done with little or no additional expense, merely by the strict enforcement of existing laws and the use of existing weapons systems. Basically, it is the only way forward from the disastrous reign of the "neoconservatives" whose wasteful and ineffectual policies have resulted in the massive loss of American "blood and treasure" for nothing.

  • bob e

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  • LindaRivera

    American Muslims celebrating 9/11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=end

  • Texas Patriot

    During the height of America's relative economic dominance, it was possible to project American conventional military resources throughout the world without damaging America's underlying financial stability. Those days are gone. Because of the steady erosion of America's manufacturing base and loss of economic dominance as the world's greatest manufacturing nation, it is no longer possible to project massive amounts of conventional military resources like we did in the past.

    Today we must rely on superior technology, superior intelligence gathering, and superior firepower. If N. Korea and Iran insist on going forward with their plans to develop nuclear weapons, it will not be by massive land armies and land wars that they are stopped. It will be by precision airstrike with overwhelming force. Thus in a matter of moments, emerging threats can be defanged and neutralized with existing weaponry without the expenditure of significant additional economic or human resources.

    This is a new day for American military power. Some will regard it as a sad day. I don't see it that way. Eliminating or neutralizing enemies with a minimum loss of "blood and treasure" has always been good military strategy, and it is no less so today.

    • EarlyBird

      Excellent post, Texas Patriot.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      During the height of America's relative economic dominance, it was possible to project American conventional military resources throughout the world without damaging America's underlying financial stability. Those days are gone. Because of the steady erosion of America's manufacturing base and loss of economic dominance as the world's greatest manufacturing nation, it is no longer possible to project massive amounts of conventional military resources like we did in the past.

      Today we must rely on superior technology, superior intelligence gathering, and superior firepower. If N. Korea and Iran insist on going forward with their plans to develop nuclear weapons, it will not be by massive land armies and land wars that they are stopped. It will be by precision airstrike with overwhelming force. Thus in a matter of moments, emerging threats can be defanged and neutralized with existing weaponry without the expenditure of significant additional economic or human resources.

      ————-

      Obviously we need to be prudent and update our approach. Obviously we need to pay attention to costs. What is unsustainable is being so stupid as we have been.

      On that we can agree. I don't hear any specific policy suggestions that allow us to continue to keep our trade partners and sea lanes safe with a reduction in cost other than "transform" the military. We spent too much money last time by expecting too much from "transformation" and getting bogged down in expensive occupations. Occupation and ordnance cost a lot more than you think.

      Winning wars decisively will save a lot more money than you seem to realize. It wasn't the neocons that destroyed our economy. It was compromising with "phantom" leftists.

      It's not that you're wrong about what our goals should be, you're just wrong about what caused our failures and what can be achieved realistically without so many maniacal lunatics going around destroying consensus when their feelings are hurt and they want more free stuff instead of another carrier or whatever.

      Do you think we should give away all the free stuff needed to make people happy just because they sincerely want "progress" for good reasons? They have happy dreams so their demands are valid?

  • LindaRivera

    Christians, Jews, Judaism and Christianity are intensely HATED by American, British and European leaders. Barbaric Muslim terrorists are ADORED and supported with money and weapons. US/NATO waged war for months for Al Qaeda and other terrorists in Libya. Gaddafi was fighting AGAINST Al-Qaeda.

    Gaddafi gave a warning before he was hunted down by U.S. aircraft enabling Gaddafi to be violently physically and sexually attacked and murdered by the U.S. supported Muslims.

    Syria's Christians who were relatively safe under Assad are being specifically targeted for attacks and cruel killings by the U.S. supported anti-Assad Muslims. U.S. ruling elites are again supporting their top FAVORITE Muslim terrorists, Al-Qaeda, in Syria.

    Syria's Assad is now giving a warning:

    JPOST.COM: Assad: West will pay for backing al-Qaida in Syria
    By REUTERS 04/18/2013

    BEIRUT – Syrian President Bashar Assad accused the West on Wednesday of supporting al-Qaida militants in Syria's civil war and warned they would turn against their backers and strike "in the heart of Europe and the United States."…

    The United Nations says at least 70,000 people have been killed. Islamist militants have emerged as the most potent of the anti-Assad rebels…

    Drawing parallels with Western support for anti-Soviet fighters in Afghanistan in the 1980s, some of whom later formed the al-Qaida organization which attacked the United States in September 2011, Assad said Washington and Europe would regret supporting rebels in Syria…

    "The West paid heavily for funding al-Qaida in its early stages in Afghanistan. Today it is supporting it in Syria, Libya and other places, and will pay a heavy price later in the heart of Europe and the United States," … http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Assad-West-will-

    Assad is absolutely CORRECT. The price we will pay for Western leaders' love for Muslim terrorists will be horrifying.

    • EarlyBird

      Linda, what should we do in regard to Syria? Should we back Assad (of all people) and help him crush the rebels and the Syrian population in general?

      I agree we have no business supporting the rebels, which is a ragtag bunch of fighters, including, but not predominately (at least at this time) Al Queda or organized global jihadists. There will always be a strain of Islam in any Arab situation, since there really is no other organizing force – not political ideology, or racial identity, but religion. Put another way, if we're going to ever support any party in the Muslim world, chances are it's going to be Islamic.

      • LindaRivera

        The U.S. and other Western nations should absolutely NOT get involved in ANY wars in Muslim countries. It is none of our business. Our Founding Fathers rightly and WISELY stated that we should not get involved in foreign entanglements.

        It is extremely IMMORAL that Western powers continually support the most radical terrorists.

        • EarlyBird

          Took the words right out of my mouth!c

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "Linda, what should we do in regard to Syria? Should we back Assad (of all people) and help him crush the rebels and the Syrian population in general?"

        Make sure we don't help any of them and make sure it stays contained. Why would we help any militant religious zealots fighting for a religion that in particular commands its followers to rule the world?

        • EarlyBird

          Wow! We agree. See how that can happen, Objy, when you are serious for a moment? Good for you.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Good for you"

            You've never established why your judgment should matter. You should come here to learn and ask questions after you humble yourself.

            Go figure out why the Old Testament is important for Jesus before you continue harassing people about things that are just as far over your head.

  • Chloe

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  • Alec

    This article makes more sense than all the mumbling from the main stream media for the past four years put together.

  • EarlyBird

    Ironically, the reason we're losing our dominance in the 21st Century has everything to do with our contribution to human freedom during the 20th, "The American Century."

    Across the world, with a few glaring exceptions, nation states have adopted free market economies, expanded political freedoms, and enjoyed upward mobility and stability. The notable exception to modern pluralism and openness is Islam, which is on a rampage against modernity.

    Our invasion/occupation response of Iraq and Afghanistan was a 20th Century response to a 21st Century problem. We responded like the enemy was a nation-state, and if we only blew up enough tanks and planes, we'd win. These wars were absolutely bound to fail.

    Americans who grew up with the idea of the US being the one, indispensible superpower are understandably having a national identity crisis post-necon failures, and given the wretched state of the economy. Instead, we should be celebrating the victory of freedom and demanding that we be allowed to enjoy the fruits of victory by ending our job as the world's policeman.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Our invasion/occupation response of Iraq and Afghanistan was a 20th Century response to a 21st Century problem. We responded like the enemy was a nation-state, and if we only blew up enough tanks and planes, we'd win. These wars were absolutely bound to fail."

      No. We invaded the nations harboring terrorists and then got bogged down in politics. Realists never lost site of what was needed. Politicians lost their way when leftists rebelled just as the war started. Actually leftists behind the scenes were looking for revenge before Bush was even inaugurated.

      • EarlyBird

        No, it was not "politics" which got us bogged down in Iraq, but a conscious, considered and intentional plan by the neocons to remake that country by occupying it. "Leftists" had nothing to do with that disaster, and Santa Claus is not real.

        Iraq was not harboring terrorists at the time and now it is because our invasion.

        Everyone knows these object facts, including absurd partisan dead-enders like you. So shut up you ridiculous little man.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "No, it was not "politics" which got us bogged down in Iraq, but a conscious, considered and intentional plan by the neocons to remake that country by occupying it. "Leftists" had nothing to do with that disaster, and Santa Claus is not real."

          Denial is such a powerful argument for delusional people.

          "Iraq was not harboring terrorists at the time and now it is because our invasion."

          Not any named terrorists that I know of but I know that I already provided video evidence that they were running production facilities for the most sophisticated terror devices in the world that can be disguised as ever day items like umbrellas and items people normally carry on airplanes.

          I also know this is not the first time the justifications were explained to you. Pretending that you either never heard them or handily refuted them is why we refer to people like you as delusional.

          "Everyone knows these object facts"

          Everyone knows your denial of objective facts? I don't know about everyone, but the smart ones do.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Americans who grew up with the idea of the US being the one, indispensible superpower are understandably having a national identity crisis post-necon failures, and given the wretched state of the economy. Instead, we should be celebrating the victory of freedom and demanding that we be allowed to enjoy the fruits of victory by ending our job as the world's policeman."

      Leftist gibberish. A well run military ensures our global trade will remain fluid. You have no idea about the consequences of your own delusions about supporting 0'Bama policies.

      Freedom is not free nor organically eternal. It only seems that way to indoctrinated leftists who have no clue about the true nature of man and what civilization is like without Judeo Christian themes dominating it, which is not the same as coercive religion, unless you think enforcing US constitutional law is too coercive for your expectations of liberty.

  • Texas Patriot

    As we learned in WWII, relative military dominance is a derivative of relative economic dominance, and since we are losing our economic dominance, it should be no surprise that we are losing our military dominance, and both sides of the political spectrum are to blame for that.

    • EarlyBird

      Exactly. We should also learn the lesson of Spain, which was so good at militarism and overseas adventure that it was focused primarily on that, and so failed at home. When England and France were building great universities and creating great feats in science and engineering, the streets of Madrid were still becoming mud bogs during rainstorms. But all the while it was importing gold and other treasure from its holdings abroad, getting into all sorts of unnecessary fights, and depleting the real wealth and strength of the country. In pretty short order it went from a global power into a has-been.

      This article from the American Conservative is an excellent illustration of the lessons Spain has for America:
      http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/y

      • Texas Patriot

        I agree completely. During the last 60 years, American public education has gone from #1 in the world in science and math to #21 and #23, despite the fact that we spend more per child ($128,000) educating our young people from grades 1-12 than any other nation on earth. Finland is #2 in spending at $108,000 per child, but they are #1 in science and math. American health care is the most expensive in the world, almost $2.7 trillion annually, but our society has become the most sedentary, least physically fit and most susceptible to avoidable diseases than any society on earth. And the money we have poured down ratholes in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan would have bankrupted any lesser country many times over. Clearly we are spending ourselves into oblivion and getting virtually nothing in return.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        Certainly there are always lessons from history, but simply noting that doesn't make your policy suggestions any more helpful than before.

        The analysis is way too simple and the only thing in common really is that you can use the "empire" buzzword. The approach of Spain was to spread Catholicism and try to recoup it's costs and then some. It was not an empire based on reality.

        In a very real sense the Spaniards were trying to build their own Utopia because that was how they interpreted the Christian texts they used. Just like leftists of today. They believed God expected them to organize the world under the new kingdom of God with Spain and the Pope as rulers.

        The USA wants to protect global trade and encourage democracy where practical. Getting suckered by Islamists is not exactly proof that our goals are not realistic once the dupes and and traitors are squared away.

        But it's not like you've ever done the math because then you'd know how silly you sound. Anyone more concerned about the cost of our military than they are about the costs of paying people to fake not being able to work and subsidizing bad business decisions is either an outright communist or someone who can't understand the economy but listens to those communists who want to destroy capitalism as a near objective.

        What percentage of our budget goes to the military? What percentage goes to welfare?

        Does global trade depend on paying people to stay home?

        I'm just trying to figure out how you got all of the communist talking points down while claiming to be the guy that understands the economics of capitalism.

        • EarlyBird

          You simply reject the entire notion that a great nation can exhaust itself by way of empire, because you don't like the idea of "empire" being attributed to the USA. You can not consider any criticism of our country, any reconsideration of any policies, and attribute any mistake we've ever made to "leftism."

          Everything you write is about this, rejecting "the left!" because you're such a base partisan. No wonder you believe this site is one that provides meaningful information.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "You simply reject the entire notion that a great nation can exhaust itself by way of empire,"

            I never said that. I said that facts matter. It depends on what happens. Of course it's a risk. The risk comes from listening to people like you. Not from "being like Spain" in any sense you've discussed.

            "because you don't like the idea of "empire" being attributed to the USA"

            It's a silly overly-simplistic way to discuss American cultural and military hegemony because it draws to stigmatize American power by tying it with the bad image of past empires.

            Empires have colonies.

            em·pire
            /ˈempī(ə)r/
            Noun
            An extensive group of states or countries under a single supreme authority, formerly esp. an emperor or empress.

            Please explain how the USA is a literal empire. And if it's a metaphorical empire, what's the point of the conflation? This comes from leftist propaganda.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "You can not consider any criticism of our country, any reconsideration of any policies, and attribute any mistake we've ever made to "leftism." "

            You can't discern distinctions. I criticize the nation all the time. And since the most important driving factor is leftist ideology, that makes it most salient and urgent to identify. That doesn't mean I deny other factors. I simply argue which points are most salient. And there's the fact that most of the time I'm trying to identify lies.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Everything you write is about this, rejecting "the left!" because you're such a base partisan."

            Of course I'm a partisan. I can form judgments and act on them.

            "No wonder you believe this site is one that provides meaningful information."

            Your inability to understand what's going on is not evidence of anything other than your own limits.

  • clare docking

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  • IRINA

    WE ARE IN THAT TIME, WHEN ALL THE PEOPLE'S GOVERNMENTS WILL COLLAPSE ON

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    THERE IS NOTHING WORTH SAVING FROM THIS WORLD OF ITS DIRTY POLITIC,

    BUSINESS AND EDUCATION, SO GOD WILL WIPE ALL THIS OUT!

    LET IT BE DONE!

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