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		<title>By: BagLady</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BagLady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can I resurrect you?

I see this week there is much in the media ridiculing solar power and its adverse effects on nature.  I can only think that such attacks are driven by big money invested in &#039;dirt&#039; and not logical thought.

If we take a blank canvas and ask ourselves:  &quot;What is THE most powerful source of energy known to man?&quot; We would have to argue the &#039;big five&#039;.  Of these the heat from the Sun would win every time. Thankfully, we have water to cool Her down when needed and wind to fan her flames in the lulls.  Logically, with this starting block, once should have thought that research would have gone more aggressively down this path.  Instead, it has been consigned to the Hippie commune.

The fact that we have lagged behind our 21 centuries of knowledge of the elements is simply because we have always put &#039;people&#039; before &#039;people&#039;.

Know wha&#039; I mean, bro?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I resurrect you?</p>
<p>I see this week there is much in the media ridiculing solar power and its adverse effects on nature.  I can only think that such attacks are driven by big money invested in &#8216;dirt&#8217; and not logical thought.</p>
<p>If we take a blank canvas and ask ourselves:  &#8220;What is THE most powerful source of energy known to man?&#8221; We would have to argue the &#8216;big five&#8217;.  Of these the heat from the Sun would win every time. Thankfully, we have water to cool Her down when needed and wind to fan her flames in the lulls.  Logically, with this starting block, once should have thought that research would have gone more aggressively down this path.  Instead, it has been consigned to the Hippie commune.</p>
<p>The fact that we have lagged behind our 21 centuries of knowledge of the elements is simply because we have always put &#8216;people&#8217; before &#8216;people&#8217;.</p>
<p>Know wha&#8217; I mean, bro?</p>
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		<title>By: UKGary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UKGary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is true that coal fired power stations are less efficient at generating power when operating at 35% to 40%, however it is not true to say that they use as much fuel at part load as at full load.


Operating at 40% uses considerably less fuel than at 85%, and in the specific case of Denmark, every coal fired power station operates in combined heat and power mode so that even this efficiency penalty is likely to be less than in electricity only operation. 


Denmark is also connected to the Norwegian and Swedish power systems, so that a lot of the variation in supply and demand is taken care of by adjusting the operation of hydro-electric power plants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that coal fired power stations are less efficient at generating power when operating at 35% to 40%, however it is not true to say that they use as much fuel at part load as at full load.</p>
<p>Operating at 40% uses considerably less fuel than at 85%, and in the specific case of Denmark, every coal fired power station operates in combined heat and power mode so that even this efficiency penalty is likely to be less than in electricity only operation. </p>
<p>Denmark is also connected to the Norwegian and Swedish power systems, so that a lot of the variation in supply and demand is taken care of by adjusting the operation of hydro-electric power plants.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard McCargar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard McCargar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To ignore Three-Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima is criminal negligence.

According to the NYT article &quot;Nuclear Plants, Old and Uncompetitive, Are Closing Earlier Than Expected,&quot; nuclear power plants are being retired early because they are too expensive to repair, and not commercially viable because of the newly found natural gas deposits.

According to a September 15 BBC article: &quot;Japan is shutting down its last functioning nuclear reactor, with no timetable for a restart.&quot;



Sorry, it&#039;s over for nuclear power.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To ignore Three-Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima is criminal negligence.</p>
<p>According to the NYT article &#8220;Nuclear Plants, Old and Uncompetitive, Are Closing Earlier Than Expected,&#8221; nuclear power plants are being retired early because they are too expensive to repair, and not commercially viable because of the newly found natural gas deposits.</p>
<p>According to a September 15 BBC article: &#8220;Japan is shutting down its last functioning nuclear reactor, with no timetable for a restart.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, it&#8217;s over for nuclear power.</p>
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		<title>By: Sussex Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sussex Girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 02:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the rub--in Denmark, they haven&#039;t closed ONE coal-fired plant with all their wind farms.  That&#039;s because they need to keep the coal plants running as backup for when the wind doesn&#039;t blow, like on the most bitterly cold nights.  Those nights are that cold exactly because the wind isn&#039;t blowing.


But it also means those coal plants aren&#039;t turned off, of course.  They have to be kept running because you can&#039;t just crank these things up at the drop of a hat.  That also means they are running at, like 35% or 40%, well below the 85% running capacity that is the most efficient.  So to keep them running as backup, the Danes are actually adding more carbon to the atmosphere than if they were just using the coal plants for power.


Isn&#039;t that a delicious irony.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the rub&#8211;in Denmark, they haven&#8217;t closed ONE coal-fired plant with all their wind farms.  That&#8217;s because they need to keep the coal plants running as backup for when the wind doesn&#8217;t blow, like on the most bitterly cold nights.  Those nights are that cold exactly because the wind isn&#8217;t blowing.</p>
<p>But it also means those coal plants aren&#8217;t turned off, of course.  They have to be kept running because you can&#8217;t just crank these things up at the drop of a hat.  That also means they are running at, like 35% or 40%, well below the 85% running capacity that is the most efficient.  So to keep them running as backup, the Danes are actually adding more carbon to the atmosphere than if they were just using the coal plants for power.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that a delicious irony.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then what do you propose? Coal power, which produces acid rain and destroys forests? Wind and solar, too weak for baseline power? Hydro? Well look at what Brazil&#039;s Hydropower has done to the native tribes of the Amazon.


The benefits of nuclear power far outweigh the negatives. To look at Fukushima and Chernobyl is to look at two poorly managed sites. Fearmongering of the highest order.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then what do you propose? Coal power, which produces acid rain and destroys forests? Wind and solar, too weak for baseline power? Hydro? Well look at what Brazil&#8217;s Hydropower has done to the native tribes of the Amazon.</p>
<p>The benefits of nuclear power far outweigh the negatives. To look at Fukushima and Chernobyl is to look at two poorly managed sites. Fearmongering of the highest order.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard McCargar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard McCargar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2013 01:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nuclear power is a disaster.  No one wants to store the spent fuel rods, and when something goes wrong, it&#039;s a catastrophe.


Fortunately, the world is getting wise, and turning away from nuclear power.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuclear power is a disaster.  No one wants to store the spent fuel rods, and when something goes wrong, it&#8217;s a catastrophe.</p>
<p>Fortunately, the world is getting wise, and turning away from nuclear power.</p>
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		<title>By: brossen99</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brossen99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://nollyprott.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/green-holocaust-2/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://nollyprott.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/green-holocaust-2/" rel="nofollow">http://nollyprott.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/green-holocaust-2/</a></p>
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		<title>By: UKGary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UKGary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Germany was a &quot;first mover&quot; in large scale solar, and very early into wind in a big way. Germany has not got the best resource for either solar or wind power with sunshine figures on average on a par with or slightly lower than Alaska, and wind resource far inferior to the UK or Ireland. 

Costs of both are now much lower, but Germany is still paying high rate feed in tariffs to a large amount of solar capacity put in when costs were much higher. Interestingly, very large numbers of Germans benefit from revenue provided by their own rooftop solar power, or from work in the solar installation industry and most Germans would seem to still support the policy in principle even if they are starting to moan about the cost. 

As for Denmark, I think the price of electricity has more to do with the overall tax system and with the fact that Denmark has little if any indigenous fossil fuels than with specific higher costs for wind power. 

There are other European countries with high electricity prices not very different to Germany and Denmark - specifically Cyprus, Malta, Ireland, Belgium, and Italy. In the USA, Hawaii has even higher prices, and I believe the same is true of Japan.

 http://www.energy.eu/



It should also be said that electricity prices in the USA (mainland) are substantially lower than most other jurisdictions largely due to the availability of cheep gas extracted and sold on the US market at prices way below the global market price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Germany was a &#8220;first mover&#8221; in large scale solar, and very early into wind in a big way. Germany has not got the best resource for either solar or wind power with sunshine figures on average on a par with or slightly lower than Alaska, and wind resource far inferior to the UK or Ireland. </p>
<p>Costs of both are now much lower, but Germany is still paying high rate feed in tariffs to a large amount of solar capacity put in when costs were much higher. Interestingly, very large numbers of Germans benefit from revenue provided by their own rooftop solar power, or from work in the solar installation industry and most Germans would seem to still support the policy in principle even if they are starting to moan about the cost. </p>
<p>As for Denmark, I think the price of electricity has more to do with the overall tax system and with the fact that Denmark has little if any indigenous fossil fuels than with specific higher costs for wind power. </p>
<p>There are other European countries with high electricity prices not very different to Germany and Denmark &#8211; specifically Cyprus, Malta, Ireland, Belgium, and Italy. In the USA, Hawaii has even higher prices, and I believe the same is true of Japan.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.energy.eu/" rel="nofollow">http://www.energy.eu/</a></p>
<p>It should also be said that electricity prices in the USA (mainland) are substantially lower than most other jurisdictions largely due to the availability of cheep gas extracted and sold on the US market at prices way below the global market price.</p>
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		<title>By: Gee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Solar power does not always require photovoltaic cells. That is what the article pointed out.


Solar energy has been used for many thousands of years in food preservation]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solar power does not always require photovoltaic cells. That is what the article pointed out.</p>
<p>Solar energy has been used for many thousands of years in food preservation</p>
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		<title>By: truebearing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[truebearing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 11:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right about one thing....you don&#039;t know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right about one thing&#8230;.you don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: truebearing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[truebearing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 11:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is Germany&#039;s power so expensive then? Or Denmark&#039;s? They are the leading &quot;beneficiaries&quot; of wind and solar and have the highest electricity costs in the world.
Wind generators are unreliable, breaking down far too often. Photovoltaics are useable, but create significant pollution. They are still too expensive.
If solar is so wonderful, why did Obama&#039;s foray into venture socialism fail so spectacularly?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Germany&#8217;s power so expensive then? Or Denmark&#8217;s? They are the leading &#8220;beneficiaries&#8221; of wind and solar and have the highest electricity costs in the world.<br />
Wind generators are unreliable, breaking down far too often. Photovoltaics are useable, but create significant pollution. They are still too expensive.<br />
If solar is so wonderful, why did Obama&#8217;s foray into venture socialism fail so spectacularly?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 11:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my country, Australia, we have no nuclear power. Why? Because despite both major parties saying they wanted nuclear power at one point, the small Greens party, with less than 8% of the vote at this election, opposes them. My country has the MOST uranium of any country on earth. Nuclear is the best power, as it is clean, cheap and VIABLE! Until people can come up with a better solution, nuclear power is the best way to reduce CO2 emissions, if you were going to do it at all. 


Moral of the story, most of the time a whinging minority will ruin a perfectly good plan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my country, Australia, we have no nuclear power. Why? Because despite both major parties saying they wanted nuclear power at one point, the small Greens party, with less than 8% of the vote at this election, opposes them. My country has the MOST uranium of any country on earth. Nuclear is the best power, as it is clean, cheap and VIABLE! Until people can come up with a better solution, nuclear power is the best way to reduce CO2 emissions, if you were going to do it at all. </p>
<p>Moral of the story, most of the time a whinging minority will ruin a perfectly good plan.</p>
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		<title>By: UKGary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UKGary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an absurd article filled with error and prejudice. 


Take for example Daniel&#039;s assertion that commercial solar power had its début in the late 1800&#039;s - does he not know the difference between electrical power and heat?


Whilst the photovoltaic effect was recognised in 1839 it was 1954 before the first practical cell was made and 1958 before the first use of such cells to power a satellite. These first cells cost $250 per watt before they were integrated into any kind of product. Since then, there has been a huge amount of research and development to refine a commercial product and bring down costs.


Since 1958, the price of solar cells and of the solar panels they are used to make has dropped dramatically. Current ex factory cost for solar panels are around £0.40 to £0.55 per watt, and continues to reduce whilst panel efficiencies are rising. Installed solar arrays on houses now cost around £1.50 per watt whilst commercial arrays can cost from around £1.00 per watt depending on scale.


True, for the moment, solar power is subsidised, but on a per kWh basis far less so than in the past, and in some countries e.g. Chile, it is now possible to build on grid solar farms based entirely on power purchase agreements on the same basis as any other power plant. Given another 5 years or thereabouts, this is likely to become the case even in the UK. 


As for wind power, in the best locations it has been possible to build unsubsidised wind farms for decades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an absurd article filled with error and prejudice. </p>
<p>Take for example Daniel&#8217;s assertion that commercial solar power had its début in the late 1800&#8242;s &#8211; does he not know the difference between electrical power and heat?</p>
<p>Whilst the photovoltaic effect was recognised in 1839 it was 1954 before the first practical cell was made and 1958 before the first use of such cells to power a satellite. These first cells cost $250 per watt before they were integrated into any kind of product. Since then, there has been a huge amount of research and development to refine a commercial product and bring down costs.</p>
<p>Since 1958, the price of solar cells and of the solar panels they are used to make has dropped dramatically. Current ex factory cost for solar panels are around £0.40 to £0.55 per watt, and continues to reduce whilst panel efficiencies are rising. Installed solar arrays on houses now cost around £1.50 per watt whilst commercial arrays can cost from around £1.00 per watt depending on scale.</p>
<p>True, for the moment, solar power is subsidised, but on a per kWh basis far less so than in the past, and in some countries e.g. Chile, it is now possible to build on grid solar farms based entirely on power purchase agreements on the same basis as any other power plant. Given another 5 years or thereabouts, this is likely to become the case even in the UK. </p>
<p>As for wind power, in the best locations it has been possible to build unsubsidised wind farms for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Naresh Krishnamoorti</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Naresh Krishnamoorti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 06:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly right.  The Environmentalist movement and the Population Control movement both have the same eugenicist roots.  They are against technology inasmuch as technology has improved the ability of the poor and the &quot;inferior races&quot; to survive the vagaries of weather, ward off diseases, and reduce infant mortality rates.  That&#039;s why they seem, at times, like Neanderthals; although they&#039;re all in favor of the latest technology if it can help to reduce human populations.  Yes, this may be about &quot;earth worship,&quot; but it&#039;s more directly a manifestation of hell&#039;s hatred of God and Life itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly right.  The Environmentalist movement and the Population Control movement both have the same eugenicist roots.  They are against technology inasmuch as technology has improved the ability of the poor and the &#8220;inferior races&#8221; to survive the vagaries of weather, ward off diseases, and reduce infant mortality rates.  That&#8217;s why they seem, at times, like Neanderthals; although they&#8217;re all in favor of the latest technology if it can help to reduce human populations.  Yes, this may be about &#8220;earth worship,&#8221; but it&#8217;s more directly a manifestation of hell&#8217;s hatred of God and Life itself.</p>
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		<title>By: j Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 05:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given that millions of people have died due to &quot;environmentalism&quot; (75 million in Africa alone since Rachael Carson), and that insect born diseases like Denge Fever, Yellow Fever and  Nile Virus are re surging, it&#039;s time to treat &quot;environmentalists&quot; as criminals who have committed crimes against humanity.  


These people have committed murder in &quot;Gaia&#039;s Name&quot; - to advance a cause using lies and propaganda, causing needless hurt to people and their lives. It&#039;s about time that some of them go to the gallows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that millions of people have died due to &#8220;environmentalism&#8221; (75 million in Africa alone since Rachael Carson), and that insect born diseases like Denge Fever, Yellow Fever and  Nile Virus are re surging, it&#8217;s time to treat &#8220;environmentalists&#8221; as criminals who have committed crimes against humanity.  </p>
<p>These people have committed murder in &#8220;Gaia&#8217;s Name&#8221; &#8211; to advance a cause using lies and propaganda, causing needless hurt to people and their lives. It&#8217;s about time that some of them go to the gallows.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbins Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robbins Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 05:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Water pumping windmills on farms and ranches were manufactured by Aermotor....that sort of device was fondly referred to as a &quot;high lonesome&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Water pumping windmills on farms and ranches were manufactured by Aermotor&#8230;.that sort of device was fondly referred to as a &#8220;high lonesome&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: UCSPanther</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UCSPanther]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 04:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we want to bring back old technology, I want to see the return of the old ALCO diesels:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc2-GObmqNk

Fine, smoke-belching machines where you can actually HEAR the engine run...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we want to bring back old technology, I want to see the return of the old ALCO diesels:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc2-GObmqNk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc2-GObmqNk</a></p>
<p>Fine, smoke-belching machines where you can actually HEAR the engine run&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ziggy zoggy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ziggy zoggy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How so? Did he forget the apple butter? Not everybody is into that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How so? Did he forget the apple butter? Not everybody is into that.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy_Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy_Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You lie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You lie.</p>
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		<title>By: trickyblain</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trickyblain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 01:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the early 1920&#039;s, it was faster to cross the country by train than by plane. 


Maybe we should look at the efficiency of technologies, I don&#039;t know, today -- rather that ninety year ago?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the early 1920&#8242;s, it was faster to cross the country by train than by plane. </p>
<p>Maybe we should look at the efficiency of technologies, I don&#8217;t know, today &#8212; rather that ninety year ago?</p>
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