Time: “Young Black Men Murder 14 Times More than Young White Men”

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The article is a by an African-American professor and mostly it restates the obvious. It’s just that the obvious isn’t much talked about.

So, it’s just fake to pretend that the association of young black men with violence comes out of thin air. Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men. If the kinds of things I just mentioned were regularly done by whites, it’d be trumpeted as justification for being scared to death of them.

It’s not that black communities are in complete denial about these statistics — Stop the Violence events are a staple of high-crime areas. But let’s face it: black America isn’t nearly as indignant about black boys killing one another or whites as about the occasional white cop killing one black boy, even though the former wreaks much more havoc in black communities. There is no coordinated nationwide movement equivalent to the one Martin galvanized. There are no thoughtful films “exploring” black-on-black crime the way Fruitvale Station treats the death of Oscar Grant, a young black man who was killed by transit police in Oakland, Calif.

And recent example illustrates how many blacks feel about who is murdering whom. Two weeks ago, an NYPD cop killed 14-year-old Shaaliver Douse. Douse was in the process of shooting other people, and had been charged with shooting someone else in May — and yet his aunt compared him to Martin. In her mind, the main sin was the white cop’s.

Granted, it seems a lot easier to do something about the Zimmermans than the black thugs. Protest profiling and police departments institute new programs. But black thugs aren’t moved by protests, so it can seem like we’re just stuck with them.

But who’s to say what would happen if black America exerted even half of the emotional fervor and brainpower it does over cases like Martin’s to thinking about how to keep black boys from going wrong? Annette John-Hall had some wise words on this last year. What kind of self-image do we have to assume we can only change others, but not ourselves?

But the question is where do black thugs come from? And the answer is that the African-American community has broken down in certain areas.

It has a functional and occasionally prosperous middle class, but the children of that middle class still pay tribute to ghetto thug values. When Obama hangs out with Jay-Z (sample lyric: Welcome to the melting pot, corners where we sellin’ rock), the message that he’s sending is that the black thug represents the black community.

On the one hand, we have ghettos where children grow up without fathers, graduate to gang violence and then shoot each other… and occasionally white people. And we have a black middle class that isn’t willing to break with that way of life.

It used to be the white liberal upper class that enabled black thuggery for entertainment and political purposes. But these days it’s the black middle class that has to take some responsibility for refusing to say no to thug culture while taking refuge behind racism.

  • marineh2ominer

    And the Mainstream media perpetuate it to sell papers and advertising .

    • ziggy zoggy

      Yes but most in the media are also true believers.

  • GSR

    No families. Three out of four Black babies are born out of wedlock and most with no real father in their lives’ at all. You can’t have a society without families yet we intend to build one. A joke.

    • robynbuckins

      as if white women are not having babies out of wedlock

      • Nick Juvonen

        Your really not getting the big picture of this article are you? You are in denial that YOUR people kill more. It’s your “Gangsta thug life” culture that is ruining America. I have the feeling you were too lazy to read the article and use proper grammar. Please don’t respond with “You are just racist.” Please, just please leave this site as you are too stupid to comprehend it.

        • robynbuckins

          First you should learn the meaning of what constitutes a “racist”…. you might find that the finger points back at you .. Additionally, what is “Gangsta Thug Life” and how and why does it exist … not to mention that some of the biggest thugs I know dropped crack cocaine into black neighborhoods in the 80’s … started a war based on a lie in the 90’s and has this country in a fucking financial toilet… You sir are the one in denial not to mention clueless as to how the systems of inequality are maintained and carried out in this country that impact the everyday experiences of individuals in our society…. as far as using proper English… you might want to write a post that contains “substance” as oppose to just spitting out your stereotypical bigotry ..
          .

          • robynbuckins

            also the last time I checked … Europeans lynched blacks… scalped Native Americans and anything else they could to do others to lie, steal and cheat

          • Nick Juvonen

            I am very aware of what constitutes “racist.” I’m 99% you know what “Gangsta thug life” means. Look at any rapper for example (Exclude mackelmore). They rap about drugs, money, and using women (especially white women) as sexual objects. It exists because YOUR community fails to do anything about your poverty. I think you are implying that it was the White mans fault. Stereotypical bigotry? Right…. Right…. Once again, you didn’t read the article. You probably were too lazy to do so. It was your community’s own damn fault you guys have not achieved ANYTHING, except produce some rappers and NBA stars. Your obviously not educated enough to use capitalization or provide a valid argument. I am 14 years old and I am smarter than you. Europeans didn’t lynch blacks. White Southerners did. You must have fallen asleep in history class. The Native Americans scalped the members of white colonies. There again. You are wrong. Also, I’m talking about a modern issue. Not something that happend 150 years ago. Try again.

          • robynbuckins

            rap music.. hahahahaha…you are clueless still…… why not taking a look at those who live poverty rapping about the circumstances of their lives as well as the white music moguls who exploit their lives in order to make a buck… “Keep in mind when brothas start flexing the verbal skillz, it always reflects what’s going on politically, socially,
            and economical/y.” –Musician Davey D

          • Nick Juvonen
          • robynbuckins

            hahahahahahahaha .. now you are on youtube.. try opening up a book and shaped the issues within the proper context….. and I am dumb

          • Nick Juvonen

            Hmmm. How old are you? 50? You were outsmarted by a 14 year old. You are so stupid.

          • robynbuckins

            Yep I would sound like an idiot to a person who lives life in a box and doesn’t have the ability to see anything other than what is in front of him …or in your case conditioned to believe .. it is obvious that you don’t have one independent thought given your responses which are nothing more than attacks …. TRANSPARENCY

          • robynbuckins

            sweetie.. wrong I’m not 50 and if you are 14 … this country is really in trouble, yet it explains a lot…. hahahahaha. … smdh

          • Nick Juvonen

            I will actually achieve something. You are just a lowlife who is too stupid to use grammar. Go complain to your daddy…. Oh wait… You were born out of wedlock… He left you when your crackhead mother was pregnant. You look like a little rat. Get out of here. Go back to africa.

          • robynbuckins

            blah blah blah… merry go round and round… you are part of the Cancer in America that perpetuates the hate against another group that you completely are clueless about and who is complete DENIAL about the barriers that institutional racism has in a PRIVILEGE system of equal access to opportunity.. TRY AGAIN sweetie….. as far as going back to Africa.. too late.. hahahaha…I’m product of your white slave master raping a black woman to breed children to use as a commodity… oh yeah but Black people are savages and thugs.. oooweeee.. GO TO SLEEP.. WAKE UP AND COME AGAIN…

          • robynbuckins

            All that hate is gonna eat you up one day sweetie…your ignorance is astounding.. you have yet to write anything substantive ..your attacks do not bother me because YOU are not capable of making me internalize that racist bullshit that you perpetuate …. you just are not that sharp.. hehehehe

          • robynbuckins

            let me see …..let me see.. who dropped that crack into black communities… ummmmmmmmm…. why don’t you talk about all the white folks and rich white kids at that on METH… you don’t talk about that nor does the white racist media put that on the news every night… GROW THE FUCK UP…

          • privilegeeee

            Hahaha I bet they held the pipe to your fucking mouth.

            Blame blame blame.

            Anyone but you, right?

          • robynbuckins

            oooooweee really ….. so are you saying that the government did not trade guns for drugs… hahahahahahahahaha I forgot the finger points to everyone except the morally, politically correct dominant majority…. It’s amazing how you could not respond with SUBSTANCE.. but then those who are blinded by hate never have anything to say…… just more of the same Cancer …….. hahahahahahahaha… BTW you never did answer my question about poor white neighborhoods..hahahahaha …

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          • RWR4TX

            I encourage everyone to go view this twitter feed this idiot is so proud of. It confirms every negative black stereotype!

          • Adam

            How come it didn’t work when they dropped crack into other communities? Didn’t they try to drop crack into the Asian community and the Irish community and the middle eastern communities?

          • LeCalabro

            It’s amazing how you can speak of others hatred and not see your oswn hatred. . It is sad that you yourself are so blind. African Americans need a better representative.

          • Alex

            Look dude, think on how asians, easern europeans firstgeneration that come to US become successful? Privilege? Liberals have brainwashed you. Go work. And it will add up. but you are to lazy to do that, you want to smoke weed and make rap.

          • laljamal

            not Asians, America hated them also. Most Asian live in communities without black/whites.now if poor whites went to work and were not so lazy, stopped using meth/crack being drunks, smoking weed and sing country songs life would be good. Instead of blaming blacks cause you are still poor.

          • robynbuckins

            watch a documentary and try understanding how and why a human would think such a life is their destiny.. that they are nothing in a world that relegates them as invisible and second class citizens….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjuswBwIL1Y

          • robynbuckins

            better yet go to school and take a sociology ..psychology class and heaven forbid if you should take a course from an Afro-centric perspective….. hahahahahahaha… you are a clueless bigot who spreads hate…. its just that plain and simple…

          • robynbuckins

            and let me get this right the economic struggle that Blacks in this country find themselves is somehow their fault.. haahahahaha…Martin Luther King stated that “he was afraid that he was leading his people into a burning fire/bush” and what he meant was that he felt segregation would lead Blacks into an economic struggle and it has… he truly questioned the “morality” of whites and capitalism….and I am dumb

          • robynbuckins

            why not try 400 years of legalized discrimination as a reason for poverty that not only Blacks but others find themselves in… white privilege is a mofo

          • robynbuckins

            just dumb… all these problems exist because Blacks lack morals and did it to themselves…..never mind that this country stand on principles framed by a bunch of white, hypocritical, weed smoking, slave owning rapists … YOU TRY AGAIN..

          • Nick Juvonen

            You sound like a complete idiot.

          • RWR4TX

            Though they comprise only 13% of the population of the USA, the vast majority of rapes are committed by blacks. If you disagree with this, you are racist who hates the Attorney General because he is black. You see, these are his stats.

          • JamalJenkum

            More correctly, black males are only 6.5% of the population. Also, in 2011, the FBI reported ZERO – 0 rapes of black women by white men.

          • RWR4TX

            MLK was pretty dumb too. He plagiarized every word of his speeches and his doctoral thesis, he was a communist, he was a woman-beater, a pansexual pervert and a serial adulterer.

          • David Roberson

            When I listen to Ludacris, Snoop, or Eazy E, I always think of deeply political, economic, and social issues. Or beating women, doing drugs, and shooting people.

            Kind of a sad philosophy when politics, economics, and social issues are celebrating drugs, hos, and murder.

          • robynbuckins

            blah blah blah… tell me exactly what neighborhoods that whites live in poverty besides trailer parks and the appalachians.(sp).. hahahahahaha really tell me..now we are talking about Urban communities.. please because I want to know… hahahahahaa… Also please enlightened me on what our “culture is” and then explain what is a “cultural” problem for us within the context that you understand Black culture… hahahahahaha ….. boy I can’t wait to here this…. hahahaha

          • Common sense

            So tell all of us racist white people that perpetuating a violent, lawless image is helping the black community? Then give us all the reasons why when anyone sees anyone, OF ANY RACE, emulating that through dress, language or actions should not be afraid? Any individual who chooses to align themselves with that culture/ mentality is going to suffer the social stigmas that accompany it! It is human psychology! If you see a white kid dressed in all camouflage, head shaved to the skin, swastika tattooes, combat boots, yelling profanity walking down the street as you are walking the other way, you would have an adverse reaction to that individual. No one would blame you for having that reaction either!

            Now multiply that skin head by millions, and imaging the profound negative impact on both the white and black communities as a result! Blacks would be afraid for their lives, because people who align themselves with certain ideologies and behaviors are all around them. This would also drown out the voices and actions of those in the white community that do not believe as the skinheads do, and cause them to suffer residual effects.

            Now ask yourself who you would expect to resolve this epidemic? Should the black people stop fearing the white people, because dressing, acting, and supporting this lifestyle does not mean that every white person thinks or behaves this way? No!!!! Black people should remain skeptical and down right afraid of white people in this scenario! Black people would have to be crazy not to, and it goes against human nature and human psychology not to! They, just as every rational human does, have instincts that protect them from danger and harm. Or would you expect the white community to understand and deal with the causes of this epidemic? In this scenario, the white community would have to look themselves in the mirror and address the harsh realities.

            I would expect that as soon as the white community stopped denying the facts/statistics, quit casting blame, and began to deal with reality (no matter how daunting or painful) the black community would be right there to support them in any way possible!

            The skin head does exist in America, no doubt. But the fact of the matter is, they are not the majority! Not even close! I would bet that most Americans have not even seen someone that resembles the person I described, and there is a reason for that. That reason is white Americans refuse to let that image/mentality dominate or define our culture! When most white parents see their kids demonstrating negative behaviors or emulating people or dress that have negative connotations, or imagery, they addresses it and deal with it! Those that don’t, end up with kids that do bad things! (I.e. Columbine high school) those parents decided that excessive playing violent video games, expressions of anger and violence (stealing, threatening adults and kids, dressing like a militia member, stories of them being bullied, etc. etc.) was nothing worthy of intervention. They essentially chose turning a blind eye, or respecting their children’s right to privacy, or whatever other excuses they could give was justification for not intervening.

            Just a looong thought.

          • RileyGrace

            *Appalachians
            *enlighten
            *hear

          • RWR4TX

            Pleasant Grove, Dallas, TX, for one.

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          • It Girl

            Europeans started the slave trade before America was even a twinkle in Britains eye. Any idiot can see rappers (at least the ones we know about) are sellouts just like Afrocans were back in the day. This has been a thousand year cluster fuck of the black race. Europeans even used bible phrases to justify “dominion over the beasts of the field. History can be fun KID.Put my tax dollars to work and learn.

          • LeCalabro

            If you want to hold me responsible for what some white people did to blacks years ago we need to talk about you and your people eating white people.

          • robynbuckins

            Race is a social construct started by Europeans.. and what kills me is how you and the most of you participating int his discussion truly lack the knowledge of history and are unable to critically think from another perspective because of of your white perspective.. al you guys do is get the us vs. them going,.. and when you are faced with logical, valid and factual information or responses… you along with many resort to attacks ,,, and in doing so your argument goes down the toilet… that’s if you presented a VALID argument to begin with

          • David Roberson

            One would have to assume that black people invented Racism, given that they were the dominate people at the beginning.

            I accept that I am a mutation of black people at some point down the line.

            You should accept that black people have values and a culture that causes them to be criminals and stop blaming white people for that.

            Also, there are lots of different white people. You can hardly blame the Irish because the English, Dutch, and so on screwed you. That would be like bombing Iraq because Saudi’s bombed a building in America. You don’t want to be a Bush do you?

          • laljamal

            as if whites don’t have criminal tendencies..think Australia
            there are many example of white criminal activities..no one is blaming whites but they do have a problem with honesty.

          • David Roberson

            Australia was a penal colony – what do you expect?

            You are still blaming white people for the nature of black culture. I never said white people were pure as the driven snow or completely innocent. However, you can’t compare crime rates and come away with anything except that black people have a problem with crime.

            If we made a list of all the black and white countries in the world by crime rate, which countries would be the top of the list and black countries would be the bottom. (top being the safest, and bottom being the most dangerous)

            If we did a list of the US states, it would be the same. Regardless of whether a state is red or blue, having a lot of black people in the state means the state will have a lot of crime.

            New Hampshire – safest place to live in the country. There are very few minorities and lots of gun ownership with loose laws. Low murder rate, lower than most of Europe.

            District of Columbia – Most dangerous place to live in the USA – the seat of the United States government. Very draconian gun laws, black people are the majority, and a murder rate that is higher than any country in the world.

            I’ve met very fundamentally honest people in my life.

          • LeCalabro

            And, where is your argument ??? No where to be seen—all I see is bigotry.

          • JamalJenkum

            No it’s not. It’s a biological categorization, and is not in any way a ‘social construct’. You must have heard that at community college and liked the way it sounded.

            The black race can be distinguished from other races by a number of physical characteristics. They are generally the least intelligent of all races, as well the as the most violent. Their skulls are thicker, with a larger forehead. Their arms are longer. Their hair follicles lack a central shaft which makes them curl like Brillo. They have low impulse control and are prone to extreme violence.

            You have forever exposed your idiocy by mimicking white people with words like social construct when race has nothing to do with it.

          • robynbuckins

            race is a social construct .. so is gender, so is class, ethnicity, sexuality… hahahahahaha community college… try University along with a Masters … physical characteristics has nothing to do with the social construct of race … …hahahahaah you sound ridiculous.. What is Race? When some people use the “race” they attach a biological meaning, still others use “race” as a socially constructed concept. It is clear that even though race does not have a biological meaning, it does have a social meaning which has been legally constructed.

          • RWR4TX

            I love that you wrote “gender is a social construct.” This allows even the dullest of readers to see the fallacy in your bull$hit. Now go suck a social construct!

          • JamalJenkum

            Robyn’s degree came with small fries and a plastic toy. Sorry Robyn, that wasn’t a University you graduated from. We thought you would have figured it out when you saw all of the little kids having birthday parties next to the ball pit.

            RACE
            noun: race; plural noun: races

            a population within a species that is distinct in some way, especially a subspecies. = “people have killed so many tigers that two races are probably extinct”

            (in nontechnical use) each of the major divisions of living creatures. = “a member of the human race”

            literary: a group of people descended from a common ancestor. = “a prince of the race of Solomon”

          • robynbuckins

            hahahahahaahahahttp://lgdata.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/docs/35/6295/Gender,%20Class,%20Race,%20and%20Ethnicity,%20Social%20Construction%20of.pdf RACE DOES NOT HAVE A BIOLOGICAL MEANING. the categories of
            difference are constructed my white supremacy to maintain inequality.. hehehehehehehehehehehhe and I’m an idiot…POSERS …

          • RWR4TX

            But, in another comment you mocked me for posting a link, and said I should go out and learn for myself! You are a dusky hypocrite!

          • Dan

            You can’t argue with people like you because you don’t have a brain to argue with. Race is 100% biological. Look at this purely scientifically, not socially or politically, we evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Along the way, a mutation occurred creating the Neanderthals. To this day, they are the smartest creatures to ever walk the earth. This population went on to civilize the rest of the world, with a strong concentration in Europe and Asia, while everyone else BELOW THE SAHARA do not have the Neanderthal gene. I don’t care about slavery, political movements, civil rights, the African race has the smallest cranial capacity and an affinity for aggression. Learn something.

          • IAmMe

            Physically, melanated people are in fact different. However, the differences you named does not make being black a bad thing. If anything, naturally, black people are stronger. You can see this via genetics and history. It is late, but if you need me to clarify, I will. Also, where is the scientific proof that 1. black people are less intelligent? I would especially like to know that, because as we all know, many years before Eureupeans were out of the dark ages, Africans had well-advancements in society, including schools where europeans would study, impressive man-made structures, a written language and so much more. It is certainly because of culture and fallacy presented by american europpeans which has created this stigma in the black community. Nonetheless, studies have been conducted comparing black children to whtie children. Before western education system has the chance to indoctrinate the children with fallace his-story and unequal education, black on average have scored higher on IQ tests then then their white counterparts. Now, from a personal standpoint, I have noticed a slight difference in white vs black babies. My son, whom is black, began to walk at seven months. That is normal in my community. He also came out of the womb very aware, this was stated by doctors. To make a long story short, as you can see here, not only are black people naturally strong and physically adept, they also are unique people with advance minds and maybe a soul you would never understand.

          • laljamal

            they are not the least intelligent. They may be the least educated. Whites were just as dumb even in the last century but at least they had access to education that was not afford to blacks ..even in the last century it was illegal to teach blacks to read..it has only been in the last couple of decades that education and schools were built for blacks and even then they were given outdated material to learn with. They have never been as violent as many whites or as evil. What you describe could just as well be a white man, except for the hair..

          • JamalJenkum

            No, you’re completely wrong. Just take a look at every single American black school district. They are treated equally, yet everyone of them is a zoo. You would be hard pressed to find one without a violent assault taking place in the school, during school hours in the last month.

          • David Roberson

            I’m sure that the black people in Africa didn’t run the albino’s out because they were scary and different. Why are you so racist?

          • RWR4TX

            Ah, so race is not real…I’m assuming you are for an end to Affirmative Action, then? And since race is a construct, I guess you’re ready to admit that whites dance and shoot hoops as well as blacks, right? Oh, and now, since there’s no races, I guess I better go get tested for sickle cell. You are one frickin’ moron!

          • tomdolan

            Race is more a social construct than a useful biological category. For example many people somehow see Hispanics and Arabs as somehow not white. I don’t think that actual skin tone is behind this. And many, many non-African people ( Millions of South Indians and Polynesians) have very dark skin, much like that of sub-Saharan peoples
            but in other ways look rather different. Skin tone by itself
            or combined with other visible traits don’t always reliably indicate either common descent or similar DNA, much less anything at all about important human characteristics such as intelligence, loyalty, courage, resourcefulness, honesty,
            persistence, or courage. Nevertheless in many stable populations many people might agree on categories of this or that individual. But when people like Tiger Woods come along – well good luck with categorizing such people who may become very common ( I sort of hope so – it might help
            with reducing our excessive race-consciousness)

          • David Roberson

            Europeans didn’t start the slave trade in Africa. You do know that, right? There was slaves when Europeans got there.

          • robynbuckins

            there was no Chattel slavery in Africa… try again.. Slaves were more like a housekeeper in African villages/tribes…. oooweee

          • David Roberson

            Should I be allowed to own a slave to clean my house? Did you really just defend Africans enslaving other Africans?

            Yea.. housekeepers. Sure. Are you that ashamed of your origins that you have to outright lie?

            Also, I doubt you even know what ‘chattel’ means.

          • Tom Kobovatz

            untrue.
            All along the nile and in northern africa “chattel” slavery was the norm.Written documents still exist proving this.

            in other parts of africa,there is a lack of evidence of such mainly due to the rareness of the use of written language.There were no written records,because no-one was writing them.But there was oral history of “chattel” slavery.

            Its interesting that although many of the areas had written languages,they chose not to use them for recording on the practice of slavery.

            you might want to do an internet search on the african nations who have so far apologized publicly for slavery.Its a long and growing list.

            For instance,Officials from the West African nation Benin (then called Dahomey) had an apology tour thru parts of the US in 2000.Benin (then called Dahomey)rounded up and sold off millions of their countrymen to the europeans alone,how many to the middle east regions is largely unknown,but likely as large.

          • laljamal

            you do know that there were white slaves in Europe, the middle east and elsewhere. Even in America until they changed the law to make whites endured so they could work there way out. Something not given to blacks. Whites were slaves even in roman time and before. That was thousand of years ago. Look how long that took whites to become civilized..it has only been a couple of hundred years.

          • David Roberson

            The word you are looking for is indentured – not endured.

            As soon as blacks become civilized, let me know and we will compare times.

          • laljamal

            as soon as whites become civilized. We are only following in your foot steps.

          • Software DEV-Smarter than you

            And we are ! Whites commit more crimes as they get older in my great country. Read this FBI report on the true numbers. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3. Aren’t you in the age group that may become a murderer? Blacks kill before true maturity and when in low income lifestyles. Whats the white grown male adult excuse?

          • tomdolan

            The word you are searching for is ‘indentured.’ Some
            European immigrant signed indentures pledging to work for so many years to repay their passage. There was no enslavement of whites in the British colonies, I think. But in Spanish and Portugese colonies, there was enslavement of native peoples ( Indians ) and, maybe whites.

          • Tom Kobovatz

            Your wrong,big time.
            I have an ancestor of irish origin who was brought over to the US colonies from ireland as a slave by the british.

            During one period of time,the british removed or killed almost 1/2 the population of ireland.Many removed were forced into slavery and shipped to the americas and the carribean.

            In the 1600s,they were far more irish slaves in the carribean and americas than black slaves.During this period Irish slaves were also treated worse,the main reasons being black slaves cost an average of 50 sterling,irish slaves 5 sterling.In addition,the brittish ruling class was actively trying to wipe out the irish.

            This reversed as time went on,as irish slaves became harder to get,and african slaves became easier for europeans to get.At which time the african slaves received by far the harsher treatment than the irish slaves.

            The majority of the irish slaves were forced into slavery by a unfriendly foreign power,Britain.Irish children were rounded up by the ship loads,and forced into slavery by the brittish.

          • tomdolan

            I almost thought that you were replying to the wrong person, because I had forgot about what I wrote
            four months ago. Good to know that someone is reading that now, I suppose. All my ancestors, so far
            as I know came from Ireland, but entirely in the 19th and 20th century. I will not comment on
            your rather elaborate story except to ask you where you came by these … unusual ideas.
            We Irish are justly renowned as story-tellers, but I have never heard such whoppers in all my born days.

          • Tom Kobovatz

            its fairly common knowledge…My irish relatives know of the history,and a lot of people here in the US know it also.

            …hard to imagine you dont….

            If you really dont,and actually want to learn what your trying to talk about,id recommend

            http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076

            or

            http://www.amazon.com/The-Irish-Slaves-indenture-Immigrants/dp/145630612X

            you can get both books fairly cheap used.Theres at least a dozen decent books on the subject in print.

            if reading is too much “work” for you…theres plenty of youtube videos on the subject :)

            and if you can afford it,theres plenty of historical documents that come up for auction on a regular basis on irish slavery.

          • tomdolan

            The native language of my father’s mother was Irish Gaelic. My native language
            is English. ” If you really don’t, and actually want to learn what your trying to talk about, id
            recommend … ” That’s a lot of ‘tude for someone whose command of our language is
            sub standard. If you were intentionally being insulting, I wonder what makes you think that
            that is ok. If you are unintentionally insulting, then you need more work on your writing still.
            In either case I excuse you from providing any more documentation.
            Ordinarily strangers who gratuitously insult me, write sub-standard English, and
            assure me of things which I find hard to believe ( claiming surprise that I am stupid enough
            or dishonest enough to disavow such knowledge) are not people whose contempt
            bothers me, nor the people on whose recommendations for reading I am likely to rely on.

            Up the Republic ! Sinn Fein .

            you can get both books fairly cheap used.Theres at least a dozen decent books on the subject in print. if reading is too much “work” for you…theres plenty of youtube videos on the subject :) and if you can afford it,theres plenty of historical documents that come up for auction on a I yoregular basis on irish slavery. 10:04 p.m., Wednesday Dec. 3

          • Tom Kobovatz

            how cute,twice instead of learning,it chose to find some pretext for “injury”….

            almost 3000 comments… perhaps less comments and more time spent learning would serve you better :)

          • tomdolan

            I have no idea what you mean by “twice,” or by “injury,” or by “3, 000.”
            Please do not feel any need to be clear. Many people communicate,
            intending to communicate. You are clearly far above such considerations.
            I have a vague feeling hat you intended to be insulting again, but the
            most recent post is so hard to make any meaning of.

            In any case since you know nothing about me ( let’s keep it that way,
            paisan though we may be ) I live can live without any undue concern
            about your contempt. Erin go bragh.

          • Tom Kobovatz

            and a third time.

            One has to wonder how hard it would try should it have “undue concern” :)

          • BettyWhite0321

            Time to change your name to “tomdolansbitch”
            baaahaaaahaaa!!!!!!!

          • Smitty37

            Hmmmm. The Egyptians about 5000 years ago had slaves – they were not white. In all likelihood they were black. In Roman times Cart;hage also existed…Carthage also had slaves (as did Rome) and Carthagens were blaclk. The Moors who invaded europe and congoured and occupied much of it for a few centuries were black. The Zulus who conqoured much of Africa and took many slaves were not white or associated with whites — they were black. The white slave traders of African slaves dealt mostly with Arabs and Black Africans to buy slaves, they did not go into the brush and capture the slaves themselves. We have what we call Black History Month in this country and blacks learn virtually nothing about Black History any farther back than the 50 years preceeding the War Between the States and a few folk tales carried to this country by slaves.

          • HumpySarf

            Actually black Africans sold other black Africans to black and white slave traders in Africa to be transported to other nations and continents..

          • JamalJenkum

            MOST of the slaves were sold by other blacks. In some countries, like the Ivory Coast, 100% of the slaves were sold into slavery by other blacks.

          • robynbuckins

            WRONG… slavery in Africa was not the same as European chattel slavery.. try reading John Franklin Hope “From Slavery to Freedom” or John Blassingame “Slave Narratives” or take a course in African history not African American history.. although it sounds like you can use a course in that as well… before you attempt to absolve Europeans of the terrorism they bestowed onto Africans and on Blacks to this very day ….Also back your statement up with some facts because i can back mine up…

          • RWR4TX

            Why would anyone want to red self-aggrandizing historical revisionist horse-$hit?

          • JamalJenkum

            I don’t need to read those books, as I’ve already read the Wizard of Oz and Harry Potter, which are much better written fiction than the books you mentioned.

          • LeCalabro

            Can we talk about all the whites that blacks cooked in big pots and had a party in the Jungle.?

          • tomdolan

            That is mostly from old movies rather than actual
            events, I believe In any case, speaking personally, while I object to being killed, what happens after is of less concern to me. Whites and American Indians have histories of cannibalism , as do Polynesians. I don’t know what if any conclusions we can draw from that.

          • tomdolan

            I am not sure that you understand the party to whom you are replying. I believe that you are right in your corrections, but wrong in thinking that your correspondent is seeking to absolve white slavers from their guilt. His argument ( a common one) makes a much lesser claim that the enslavement of black Africans was note solely the
            responsibility of Europeans. Your knowledge of history is such that you know this. If I am right Arabs ( who, to me, are white) bear are a very large part of the history of slavery in Africa not only centuries ago, but right now.
            Moslems capture and hold slaves today, including Sudanese.

          • basal

            Time to stop the hatred. Time to solve problems together. There is plenty of room for blame on both sides which gets us nowhere.

          • robynbuckins

            you would sell too if some strange looking person with white, pink, red skin, funny looking stringy hair, strange looking eye colors (some say the devil) came into your village and told you that if you did not help him that he was gonna do the same thing to you that he did to his fella brother, children wife, kids… etc…..

          • David Roberson

            I certainly am the devil. You got it. Behold the evil and great power of the white man. Are you seriously that stupid?

          • RWR4TX

            No, whites never viewed blacks with superstitious awe due merely to different appearance. That’s because they have more logic.

          • robynbuckins

            Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” – Martin Luther King, Jr.

          • http://www.amren.com/ Berserker

            White-run Rhodesia was the bread basket of Africa.

            Black-run Zimbabwe has its hand out like ALL OTHER black nations. Blacks are inferior, everyone knows it; there is the real source of black anger.

            You’re stupid/primitive.

          • robynbuckins

            *”The only protection against INJUSTICE in man is POWER… physical, financial and scientific.” MARCUS GARVEY!*

          • http://www.amren.com/ Berserker

            Scientific?
            Oh, black science: K = FC^2

          • robynbuckins

            “To see your enemy and know him is a part of the complete education of man.” MARCUS GARVEY

          • robynbuckins

            Africa and its people are the most written about and the least understood of all of the world’s people. This condition started in the 15th and the 16th centuries with the beginning of the slave trade system. The Europeans not only colonialized most of the world, they began to colonialize information about the world and its people. John Henrik Clarke

          • LeCalabro

            Yes, I agree with you as you you wrote: “Africa and its people are the most written about and the least understood of all of the world’s people.”

            Who can underwtand putting people in apot, cooking them and then eating them. Not me.

          • IAmMe

            In Gough’s Cave, England, remains of human bones and skulls from approximately 15,000 years ago, suggest that cannibalism took place amid the people living in the cave.
            Archaeologists can trace back evidence to about 7,000 years ago proving mass cannibalism in Germany – even children and unborn babies were on the menu.

          • LeCalabro

            Yes, that was 7,000 years ago —-but in Africa it seems that it was not so long ago that they ate some guy after putting him a pot and cooking him; was his name Livingston ?

          • LeCalabro

            It would be nice if we had a long time written historical record of blacks activity in Africa.

          • laljamal

            so the only cannibals were in Africa,,i am afraid not

          • LeCalabro

            Seems the world beleives that they were the best cooks. No?

          • tomdolan

            *&^% me ! How many generations ago did your ancestors do the same thing ? The truth is you have no idea, except probably more than five generations,
            also the correct answer for most people of most descent, except perhaps for East Asians.

          • robynbuckins

            The first light of human consciousness and the world’s first civilizations were in Africa. John Henrik Clarke
            YOU REALLY SHOULD ELEVATE YOUR MIND.. hahahahahahahaha

          • RWR4TX

            Thank you for quoting a communist, sexually perverse, plagiarist. I wonder who King stole that particular line from? But he’s right, just this once. You should stop being ignorant and stupid.
            Here are the facts on King: http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/01/11/the-dark-side-of-martin-luther-king-jr/

          • robynbuckins

            To a large extent, the shadow of slavery still hangs over this land, and affects the daily life of every American. Slavery was the black gold that produced America’s first wealth and power. Slavery was the breeding ground for the most contagious and contaminating monster of all time — racism. It was/is this racism and oppression by white America that has conditioned you and your thinking…. long live white supremacy and white privilege idealogy….

          • RWR4TX

            Your lack of critical thinking skills and level of racist ideology become more evident with each comment. You are a RACIST!

          • robynbuckins

            To be learned in all that is worth while knowing. Not to be crammed with the subject matter of the book or the philosophy of the class room, but to store away in your head such facts as you need for the daily application of life, so that you may the better in all things understand your fellowmen, and interpret your relationship to your Creator. You can be educated in soul, vision and feeling, as well as in mind.

            To see your enemy and know him is a part of the complete education of man; to spiritually regulate one’s self is another form of the higher education that fits man for a nobler place in life, and still, to approach your brother by the feeling of your own humanity, is an education that softens the ills of the world and makes us kind indeed. Many a man was educated outside the school room. It is something you let out, not completely take in. You are part of it, for it is natural; it is dormant simply because you will not develop it, but God creates every man with it knowingly or unknowingly to him who possesses it – that’s the difference. Develop yours and you become as great and full of knowledge as the other fellow without even entering the class room.

            MARCUS GARVEY!

          • JamalJenkum

            Marcus Garvey was a communist terrorist who was hanged for his crimes.

          • tomdolan

            Marcus Garvey is honored in Jamaica as one of five ‘ National Heroes.’ The other include the great Sir Alexander ‘Busta’ Bustamente and Norman Manley.
            I think that the word ‘terrorist’ deserves some …evidence.

          • robynbuckins

            Capitalist-minded Caucasians created the system of racism when they decided that the human race could be divided into sub-divisions based on the color of an individual’s skin. Now, not only do we have races based on skin color – there is a Jewish race, an Aryan race, a Hispanic race…The white race is composed of people with pink skin. The black race is composed of people with brown skin… Asian people are accused of having skin the color of bananas and Native Americans are indicted as having skin the color of cherries and apples. Most people who live at or below the poverty level in America are people who call themselves white. People who live at or below the poverty level in America are second class citizens, the unemployed and underemployed.

            Justice in America – Justice is not blind. Justice in America has always been blind. How long did it take for America to recognize that slavery was wrong??? How long did it take to recognize separate was not equal???Justice covers her eyes because she is embarrassed. Justice is ashamed about the reality of the visible truth.

            If justice means -righteousness, honesty, integrity, fairness and even-handedness; then justice is not blind in America – justice can’t handle the truth.

            Truth and justice should walk hand in hand; but our reality of justice; is the justice of privilege and the reality of propaganda. Truth and justice, fact and justice, reality and justice.

            In America justice has no morals.

            In America justice has no ethics.

            In America justice has no principles.

            In America justice has no morality- but America does not want to hear the truth.

          • RWR4TX

            Well, then I guess we should just look to Africa for justice, morals, ethics, and principles, lol!

          • robynbuckins

            good night

          • RWR4TX

            All your paragraphs of gibberish debunked by one line of logic! Good night to you as well.

          • LeCalabro

            Yes, Caucasians created some of the greatest advan es in medicine, engineering, social structures etc. We should be ashamed of ourselves for working so smartly and hard.

          • IAmMe

            “Capitalist-minded Caucasians created the system of racism when they decided that the human race could be divided into sub-divisions based on the color of an individual’s skin.” – When Robyn states this, what she is saying is that this is not something to be proud of. Causing a division of people based on complexion or bone structure is immoral. It is pseudoscience such as this which is killing society. Separating people based on color, then trying to define people because of it, furthermore, treating people differently because of this is ignorant. Also, LeCalabro, no one is saying that they should be ashamed for working smartly and hard. However, that is the nature of people, to work smart and hard. Caucasions are certainly not the first or the last to lay claim to that, obviously. What you are guilty of is taking man kind and treating it like some science experiment. I don’t know what your faith is, but I believe God created men and women. I have a question for you or whomever else would like to respond. How is it right for man to decide that we are separate and who is more superior by looks alone? How come you can’t be providers of peace and not dissension?

          • LeCalabro

            To IAMMe—-If you truly believe in freedom for all men I would think you would support the right to associate with who you want to associate with. IMO your thinking come from a Dictatorship form of government. I also think that races are happier when they live with their own kind. Ye, there are exceptions, but for the most part people seem to want to be with their own kind. I meant to sayh that we should NOT be ashamed for working hard to improve ourselves. Best wishes, Kouie
            How is it right for man to decide that we are separate and who is more superior by looks alone? How come you can’t be providers of peace and not dissension?

          • robynbuckins

            When the last time you did something for the first time… or rather when the last time you LEARN something for the first time that did not take on a WHITE privilege perspective.. but you see racist idealogy will always blind you.. especially when you are a sheep among many.. you don’t have an original thought in your head … it is obvious that everything you have stated is learned …. go out in the world and learn…..DAYUM again “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. MLK”

          • robynbuckins

            and you go to a website for Dr. King.. .. hahahahahahaha it’s funny how you along with others are so quick to absolve Europeans of all their wrong doings .. not only against Blacks but all others… hahahaahahaha you could certainly use a history class and while you are at learn to apply context.. but then again in order to apply context.. you would need some critical thinking skills…

          • tomdolan

            Dr. King was suspected by the infamous John Edgar Hoover of being a Communist and an adulterer. The former is quite unlikely. He was a very public figure for almost his while adult life and there has been no evidence that he was a Communist and much that he was a minister of the gospel. As far as sexual perversion, Hoover must be who you mean. The plagiarism probably centers on his doctoral thesis and such are often not black and white
            ( clear ). Dr. King was clearly a master of our language
            as his sermons and speeches show. He didn’t plagiarize those – who else had such eloquence ? But 1/2 out of 3 is not bad, well it is, but better than 0 for 3.

          • tomdolan

            Even if Dr. King did commit adultery ( I have no idea if he did, if he did he would see that as a sin, and probably have repented) it is a gross exaggeration to call that a perversion. Academic plagiarism is not the same as when Joe Biden took an entire speech word for word from Neal Kinnock and gave it as his own – it usually has more to do with proper or insufficient attribution. He was a young man when he wrote his thesis. A middle-aged best-selling writer, Doris Kearns Goodwin committed plagiarism in a recent book ( more serious than in a doctoral thesis) and apologized for it. People do not see her as a dishonest person ( a bit careless or arrogant in that case) and rightly so. D. King was not a perfect man. He was a brave man who loved this country greatly and played an important part in bringing justice to this country.
            I don’t need a link to a secondary source. I lived through those years and I remember his advocacy of non-violence when it wasn’t easy. Marxist-Leninists are not well known for being non-violent

          • tomdolan

            Try looking into John Edgar Hoover’s sexual perversion,
            thuggery, and dishonest self-aggrandizement. This *&&^%l
            said that there was no such thing as the Mafia and he was a federal law enforcement executive. Was he really that clueless, or was there another explanation. His principle cause was not protecting the public, it was promoting himself.

          • Mke Biggs

            And we are ! Whites commit more crimes as they get older in my great country. Read this FBI report on the true numbers. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3. Aren’t you in the age group that may become a murderer? Blacks kill before true maturity and when in low income lifestyles. Whats the white grown male adult excuse?

          • JamalJenkum

            Then you’re EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!!

          • JamalJenkum

            You must be extremely dangerous then.

            I was just wondering, which book did Michael King (his real name – he was never a reverend or a doctor) plagiarize that quote from?

          • tomdolan

            Dr. King earned a doctoral degree from the Boston University School of Theology. He was co-pastor with his father of a large Baptist church in Atlanta, perhaps the Sixteenth Street Baptist Church ? He was Martin Luther King, Jr. His father was, therefore, Martin Luther King, Sr. Dr. King also received many honorary degrees, I believe and, I believe, a Nobel Prize.

          • RWR4TX

            Actually, the slave trade is as old as civilization itself, and the slaves were sold to the Europeans by mostly Arabs, who still run a thriving international slave trade. So there.

          • tomdolan

            This is probably correct. What is certainly correct is that
            Moslems, mostly Arab Moslems and maybe other Moslems, including some black Moslems, have been active in capturing free people, mostly women, enslaving them and selling them. This has happened in 2014 in Nigeria and more recently by ISIS (Arab Moslems from an Al-Qaeda offshoot ) in Iraq. Saudis, even in countries outside Saudi Arabia have held foreign employees, many Filipino women, in conditions like slavery.

          • Joycey

            Africans started slavery on themselves…Islam came later to exploit and never stopped…Whites came late to the slave party and left the quickest….

          • robynbuckins

            and you still have not explained what constitutes a racist on thug life….. You just spread more stereotypical bigotry and hatred that adds to the system of oppression ….

          • Alex

            Go read up, how many black are there 15%? And how much of a violent crime they do? 50%? Need to hear more? White kids on meth steal, they don’t kill like blacks. Again, looking at it as an immigrant from eastern european country.

          • robynbuckins

            Alex have you ever heard of institutional racism …btw immigrants from eastern europeans have the ability to blend right in with those who hold POWER… h ahahaha… btw African-Americans history is not one of being an “immigrant”….. good grief…

          • RWR4TX

            Asians don’t. They earn even more than whites. Your fallacious BS is easy to debunk.

          • LeCalabro

            And whites built America–a place that you choose to remain in. I didn’t lynch any blacks—- neither did my father–but I wonder if you lynched any whites—ie committed crimes against them.

          • cherry

            White did not build America, American was build by the hard work of black slaves, for which they were never paid, READ YOUR HISTORY!!!!!!

          • LeCalabro

            Slave owners were wrong. Whites stopped the use of slaves. Whites died, by the thousands during the Civil War, and blacks were no longer slaves when the northern whites won that war. There are a lot of black thank you’s that need to be heard by white America—now and into the long ahead fututre.

          • laljamal

            blacks have fought in every war America has had! even the civil war..after the civil war their have been lots of law that were passed to prevent blacks from achieving anything..
            even when the educational system and learning was denied them..

          • Rick

            Hey Jamal….. We have a black prez…who held him back? seems he did ok for a black fatherless child, Oh that’s rite he was raised by his mother and grand parents. And oh yea they were white. Hmmmmm? It seems his black father did the typical thing most black fathers do, he bailed

          • Richard Strong

            Blacks owned slaves , and land … The also fought in the revolution ..

          • Richard Strong

            What about Irish slaves ? Or blacks that owned slaves ?

          • LeCalabro

            Over 600,000 white military men died during the 1861-65 US Civil War—-AND THEN THE BLACKS WERE FREE, AND THAT IS A GREAT THING.

          • scott

            Numerous blacks fought in that same war to free themselves from those terrorist!

          • JamalJenkum

            Idiot. Blacks should be grateful for slavery. They were sold fair and square to slave traders by other blacks. The farms that they got to work on were built and owned by white people, who fed and housed them and took good care of them.

            They were basically farming equipment, and only mistreated when the committed crimes. Remember they were valuable property, like a horse. You wouldn’t go buy a horse and then beat it, would you?

            After slavery ended they got to stay here. Since that time they have caused nothing but problems. If you add up everything produced by blacks, including during slavery, and then subtract out everything we have had to pay for welfare, food stamps, medicaid, prison, section 8, etc. blacks are still a net loss.

          • DeMarquise Elkins

            DATS WAYSISS. I DIN DO NUFFINS !!

          • laljamal

            and to all the poor useless white people who were not worth anything they were angry about that..even now they are still angry because they are stain that the rich white people would like to separate from also..

          • Rick

            Not to forget but the first slave in America was a white man, held by a black man. thnx Jamal I wish more people “black and white” had your cognitive ability

          • Richard Strong

            Blacks started slavery in America , Anthony Johnson.. Irish slaves are the forgotten , because the were not worth that much ..

          • http://www.amren.com/ Berserker

            White-run Rhodesia was the bread basket of Africa.
            Black-run Zimbabwe has its hand out like ALL OTHER black nations. Blacks are inferior, everyone knows it; there is the real source of black anger.

            You’re stupid/primitive. Make peace with it.

          • laljamal

            black have never been inferior! is that why whites try to keep them isolated. If that were true then whites are inferior to Asians.there are many more poor whites, in the same situation except whites do have some privileges not extended to other races in America..as far as Africa white people can leave let China deal with Africa since they are far more intelligent than most whites..

          • Smitty37

            Name a privilege that white Americans have that are not available to other races.

            Africans are begging America for help not China.

          • tomdolan

            *&^% @#$%

          • scott

            Whites are inferior to all that’s why they steal and kill for land and resources! Africa is the wealthiest of all places but whites go in and steal all the wealth leaving the people in poverty! Study it! Whites war and stole all lands they control and hoard and control everything because you don’t want to work hard for it so you get slaves for 400 years,kill the Indians and Mexicans for their lands and make them all look bad and call blacks,mexicans and indians savages! Come to think of it you call chinese,japenese,muslims,africans,cubans,hispanics have all been called savages by whites! But the only really acting that way are your people!

          • fred flinstone

            Damn you are correct…..automobiles…light bulbs…out houses….damn.

          • Smitty37

            That is pure nonsense. The first trans continental was built by Irish labor from the east and chinese labor from the west. The coal mines in West Virginia and Pennsylvania were manned by various nationalitits of white people – almost no blacks involved. The salt mines in New York were and still are manned by white men, no blacks involved. The huge tunnels bringing water to New York City were built by primarily by white people witth very few blacks. In fact, if you choose any of the huge dangerous projects that built this country you will be hard pressed to find any where blacks provided more than their numbers in the general population.

          • Pimptastic

            “Nationalitits” sounds like a patriotic porn site.

          • Mikey Greene
          • Richard Strong

            Yes read history , Blacks started Slavery .. Anthony Johnson . If your stance is Slaves built America , Well you might want to thank the Irish slaves …

          • laljamal

            now you know that whites never commit crimes against blacks and any other people of color. Whites where not the only one who help build America. we choose to live here just like you! or are you ever planning to move to Europe, I doubt it..i don’t think Europeans would want you..they didn’t when they sent you..

          • LeCalabro

            laljamal: It is important that YOU concentrate on the goodness of black folks. IMO that is what is important to blacks. Forget about whites.

          • Scott

            You didn’t build America, you stole it in which you are the benefactor of it! Slavery was the only wealth of the colonies before America was America! Washington DC was built by blacks. We helped in that building of America! 65% of whites on Welfare and 12% of blacks, whose lazy! Guns,drugs and gangs all invented by whites! Every bad behavior in these lands whites taught non-whites how to go it? White gangster invented the drive bys! So when you are viewing things through the media about how bad they make us seem, you only have to look in the mirror because white people are destroying America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • hopeless

            You’re referring to HUMAN traits, you moron. Are you even aware that it was the Africans who enslaved and sold their own to slave traders. And just to educate you (which is something you desperately need)…slavery and savagery have been a part of human behavior, since the beginning. All cultures, races and people’s should be recognized as being capable of such hate, arrogance and greed which has driven kings and generals to conquer foreign lands and people’s. you are just ignorantly hiding behind the same old tired ‘race card’ … Get over yourself already.

          • robynbuckins

            and how do you know I’m a moron….. oh because you don’t agree with the historical facts…. Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” – Martin Luther King, Jr.

          • RWR4TX

            No, because they read your endless stream of remarkably stupid gibberish.

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          • David Roberson

            Why do you imagine albinos left Africa? Ya’ll threw us out. Black people invented racism. :)

            Seriously though, there isn’t a single race in the world who can pull a chair up to the table and honestly say that their people are good and fair or even a little bit better than others in the grand scheme of things.

          • Ronnie

            Robyn, I get what your saying but there is a huge problem in the black culture in America and pointing to all these other events in different time and countries does nothing to start to fix the problems.

          • fred flinstone

            Who did natives scalp….Gumby.

          • robynbuckins

            scalping was originally a European practice.. hahahaha so I would say that the Natives were taught by the best… aahahahahaha dummy

          • Random white guy

            Robyn, Sure that did happen…150 years ago. Get with the times. Nobody will ever claim they are racist (unless they’re a black panther or a white suprem.), but everybody is racist in some way or another. There are two types of people and they are colorblind…those who are willing to work hard for the dream, and other’s who give up and take the easy way out, whether it be prison, thuggery, or death.

            The question should really be: why do they give up on the dream? I think the answer is fairly simple. It used to be cool to be a black gangster thug and as a result there are many young adults who have grown up without their black gangster thug FATHER who is probably in prison or dead. Then the same thing happens again to the young adult. And then their kid follows in the same footsteps. Black families who plan to have a family, plan to stay together for their children, and raise their children properly never run into the problems of the ghetto. So what’s the problem with the ghetto?

            The problem is the music within this culture that perpetuates the ideal of thuggery. But it wasn’t always this way, and it doesn’t have to continue to be this way. Think about how many amazing African American musicians there were in the 40’s all the way through the 80’s. Seriously talented musicians who played awesome music that people could dance to that wasn’t all about cappin’ pigs and fucking bitches and smoking pot and sippin’ on sizzurp and being a thug. Good God..even Beyonce used to promote a positive message–now she has taken the easy way out and perpetuates filthy ideals that hurt her own community in order to make sure she doesn’t sell out and disappear from the trade.

            Furthermore, a message to Mr. Obama. We have a black president who, like the article says, hangs out with thugs and pretends to know what it’s like to be a black man in the hood. He doesn’t know shit about living in the ghetto. And just because he is the most powerful man on earth does not make him a good role model. You want to see a good African American role model? Look at Dr. Ben Carson. Look at Colin Powel. Look at Condeleezza Rice. Look at Will-I-Am. These are good human beings who have done amazing things for the community and whom value life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

            Now about the article, it is well written, and it is honestly not any kind of abuse or racism towards the AA community. It is truthful and concise and honestly, literally paints a picture of what is really going on and why it is going on. Does it paint a flattering picture of said community? Not at all. But it does give a slight hint of insight as to what must occur to fix the problem. It’s up to Snoop and Dre and Obie and the people whom these kids look up to to promote a good cause. Right now it’s a teeter totter and it could go either way. If snoop dawg cam out and told these children (they are children if they are under 18) to put down the filth and focus on a good positive life, I think it would teeter towards good over the next generation. If not then I’de say it’s going to be more of the same. But the CEO of Mcdonald’s, the biggest food chain on earth, is African American. And that should be enough for the community to know as a whole that there is hope. It doesn’t lie with Barack Obama, but it does lie within a strong culture with no ceiling on potential. There is nobody holding the community down now but itself. So I say live by the rules or die by them.

          • laljamal

            white people forget quickly..the real gangsta thugs

          • Smitty

            And that is an excuse for blacks killing each other???? You also need to look into your own history a little. In the 1950’s when there was a hell of a lot more racism about that there is now, there was also a lot less crime in black neighborhoods. and black grandmothers were a lot safer walking to the store.

          • Guest

            you were saying?

          • Mikey Greene

            No living people,black or white,are responsible for what other black and white people did generations ago….so the things that happened generations ago that we have no control over gives people the right to shoot and kill people of their own community?

          • Sally

            Half those lynched in America were white Republicans, the other half were black Republicans.

            And “lynching” doesn’t mean “hanging;” it means “justice outside the law.” Some lynched were hanged, others were murdered in other ways.

          • Richard Strong

            scalping would come from the french … You might want to check out Mexico when it comes to slaver , Anthony Johnson a black man is the one that started slavery in America ..

          • Alex

            Hey, somehow immigrants from Russia make it, and blacks that are BORN in US can’t? Don’t make me laugh, they are just lazy and not willing to work.

          • Dan Kistner

            HOW do you say, GO Fuck Yourself, nicely? Oh well, do it, anyways! TYPICAL republiCAN’T God rush limballs fox B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T!

          • mwlovin

            nice temper…maybe this is why you sound so stupid…best try listening for a change. Hey, when was the last time a white held you back> Tell about it personally when a white broke into your home, of push in front of you at the store, or stopped that promotion at work, or hired less qualified white over you…how about a white man selling your kids drugs…have ya seen that? I really want to hear how whitey held you back…you get extra credit on college exams yet still drop out….. we know what the real problems is…WELFARE and fatherless kids…. no white made you fuck that ngger…no white make you put you kids in bed and go to the nightclub…”moma be home soon”…..look at the truth girl…..you can hate, but you better find out who you really should hate

          • statman

            reality is statistics don’t lie

          • mac12sam12

            Time for a nap, Pops. The people in the white lab coats are there to help you.

          • Sally

            SOMEONE pummels another person for arguing out of statistics.

          • laljamal

            one thing about the Russian, they are white! they are not marginalized. and they have backing..no black person in America could ever be head of a organization, it would be investigated to death. money + white you will get ahead..money + black you have to be a drug dealer..

          • tomdolan

            Suppose that immigrants from the Caribbean and from
            Africa ( black immigrants) have higher employment rates,
            lower crime rates, and lower illegitimacy rates than native-born blacks. Probably racism does not work as an explanation for this. The causal factor might be stronger
            family cohesion.

          • jesskazen

            they are from countries and cultures where they have traditionally been treated as second class citizens and have better basic education especially in maths versus American blacks

          • tomdolan

            ” Blacks from Africa have traditionally been treated as second class citizens. ” Traditionally ?
            You do realize that in many sub-Saharan African countries, almost everyone, except tourists and visitors,
            is black, don’t you ? I taught maths for a year in Jamaica. To say that the standard of achievement
            in math was higher there than here would be somewhat …. optimistic.

            I suggest an alternate hypothesis. The family structure of immigrants, not necessarily of those left
            behind is stronger with more expected of children by their parents ( yes, plural) and with more
            concern with and encouragement of academic achievements than is found in native American
            families of any color. What you suggest about a tradition of second class treatment and high
            academic standards may have been true a few generations ago in capital cities. Neither is likely
            nowadays in the bush ( where there are no yellow or white people, only blacks and often no schools at all).
            Also for many immigrants from Africa English is not the first language of the children who, nevertheless, often out-achieve
            native-born children of all colors.

          • tomdolan

            Most people in the world, and most people in Africa, do not live in countries
            with either the liberty or the prosperity which is enjoyed by people in Canada,
            Japan, Australia, Western Europe, New Zealand, and, well, here. Most people
            in Africa do not live in political freedom. Jerry Kramer, offensive guard for the
            Green Bay Packers, said of his coach, Vince Lombardi, that he treated us all
            alike – like dogs.

            So many people in African countries are indeed treated as second-class citizens,
            but not because of skin color, but because the only first class citizens are the dear
            leader and his cronies and favorites.

          • tomdolan

            Are you from another country ? The only people whom I have heard use the word ‘maths’
            are English, Jamaican, Irish, and so on. Do people in some pats of this country also
            use that word ? A fifth former asked me once: Sir, how do you spell ‘ zed ?’
            I answered ( incorrectly) zee -ee- dee ( it should have been zed -ee-dee).

            They also loved my demonstration of how pitchers in baseball ‘bowled .’

          • Sally

            Why do any blacks in America succeed?
            Blacks had actually a higher rate of marriage than whites prior to the 1960s. The situation of blacks has gotten worse, not better, since the 1960s when liberal Democrats started treating them like lab rats, with different expectations than whites. THAT is the true racism, the racism of low expectations.

          • IAmwhiteAndblack

            or hit the lottery And be lucky?

          • Steve Giardini

            You are aware the President of the USA is black….. thats a pretty big “organization”. SMH

          • mikeyboss

            No black person in America could ever be head of AN organization?? WTF is Barack Obama? And there are many black CEOs of major companies, small business owners who are black, etc., so spare me the woe-is-me BS (especially when you KNOW it’s BS).

          • jesskazen

            immigrants from Russia are white in a mostly white country, I’m sure they are afforded more opportunities and even in the poorest areas of Russia are provided with a much better public education than poor American children

          • Scott

            400 hundred years of slavery on these cursed lands means were not lazy but your people are! just look at the picture above. You all still hire nannies and are lazy, and stole everything you have, not work hard for it! Stolen lands, stolen legacy-get it!

          • Diane Madison

            You are a liar. When you say “they” you are a liar. If you see a black person working next to you, then you just destroyed your own theory. Let me clarify something for you. We work, build and excel. Come with something better. Educated dummy!

          • Kristi

            You are ignorant. Did Russians get captured and taken away from their families to spend their whole life working for people that consider them less than house pets? Did Russians not have the right to vote, marry who they wanted, use the same bathrooms, restaurants, water fountains, bus seats? You need to educate yourself, and once you have you will not be so ignorant. One can only hope

          • Stella

            Kristi, talk about the ignorant! Russian state was based on an extensive serfdom system for centuries, the serfdom was only abolished in 1861. And yes, millions of Russian serfs laboured for people who considered them less than house pets. Those serfs had no right to vote, more than often they were not able to marry who they wanted and they were beaten, raped, murdered, sold and bought. Though “fully liberated” during the revolution of 1917, Russians lived under ruthless murderous Stalin’s dictatorship for over 20 years, when further millions were butchered in inhuman conditions of communist concentration camps.

          • APOD.

            They will never admit to the cycle whites caused in the ghetto.

          • robynbuckins

            No they never will APOD… if they can’t admit to racism ….. __________________ flatline.. hehehehe

          • Bloodeagle

            Just going to leave this here for you guys. http://allenbwest.com/2014/02/wasnt-classified-hate-crime/

          • LeCalabro

            Its true—some blacks do not like blacks, just because they are black. But others don’t
            like them becuase they commit so much black on white crime. See FBI Stats.

          • Bloodeagle

            There you go. Blame everyone else. Blame everyone that had nothing to do with it at all, because I sure as fuck didn’t.

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          • hopeless

            Robyn, you are a total clown, and its not because you’re black. You are just ignorant as phukk.

            What people should realize about people like you is that you are like a zombie, wandering the world, too stupid to understand that you don’t have a brain and so morally retarded that you’re perfectly content as you selfishly rip apart others flesh to satiate your brutal primal hunger. You don’t care about educating yourself, and you surely couldn’t ever comprehend what an absolute hypocrite you are. That would take a willingness to approach social arguments and debates Without prejudice.

          • Bloodeagle

            Wait, you mean Obama right?

          • robynbuckins

            HAHAHAHAHA.. funny .. OBAMA along with the other 40 something Presidents beform him.. but the biggest THUG was ReaGUN….both as a President as the Governor of California… also what does Obama have to do with this discussion.. more racist rants..hahahahahahaha coded of course….

          • Bloodeagle

            It was mainly a joke, and no it’s not racist at all. Clinton fucked it up, bush made it worse and Obama just made it even worse it’s all been fucked for a while. What’s with capping the gun on Reagan? Hate guns? Want them gone? Ok, go take a look at Ukraine and tell me that’s a good fucking idea. But back on topic. There is just as much black on white hate as there is white on black.

          • Bloodeagle

            Oh sorry, I brought up presidents because the way you were using the word thug started a war… Blah blah sure sounds like a political reference. So I rolled with it.

          • RWR4TX

            No, there’s far more black on white hate.

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          • Ryan

            You are stupid if you were paying attention you would see that when a black person kills a white it’s okay an example of this is when a two black guys shot a white baby in the face and Killed it. There was no nothing in the nation wide news about it but when a back guy is killed while bashing a white guys head in to the ground everyone everywhere here’s about it and some how the white guy that shot the black guy while defending himself is public enemy number one. Think of this if the white guy would have not defended himself and died would the black guy been public Number one?

          • Scott

            That was another case of a white mother killing her own baby! Mother and father both had gun shot residue on their hands, that was proven by police! Also the mother says the boys were clearly in her face close range! Anyone that shoots guns know if you can shoot a baby close range you won’t miss killing the mother!
            Susan Smith drown here 3 young toddlers and blame that on black people but later confessed and apologized to the black community! Casey Anthony,Central Park rape victim and gang of black teens didn’t rape white liar!
            Rosewood,FL- a black prosperous town destroyed by whites because a white woman was raped by a white guy and blamed it on blacks! The list is endless! Whites have been committing crimes and blaming blacks back to slavery days! Worse is police are just as corrupt to support these crimes because their feelings for blacks! All the cases blacks were harrassed and arrested, except Rosewood! Man kills his wife in Boston and blames blacks and they made arrest! Further investigation led them back to him! Many blacks are in prison and never committed a crime do your research, many are out telling their story or suing if allowed. Stop your ignorance and research the truth!

          • Rick

            Scott. ………never mind you have that black chip on your shoulder called “entitlement, whitey be holding the black man down” syndrome. You have such a closed mind that what ever I say, you will not grasp it. Good luck too you and your kind, Sir. Just for your own safety, please stay out of My Nabourhood

          • nicholasstix

            You’re just a racist liar.

            Nicholas Stix, Uncensored

          • ricksmooth_47

            As long as negroes like you continue to blame white folks for your sickness, your people will just kill eachother off. You are the racist. Gangsta thug life is what is considered a good think in your community. The drugs that the mafia brought into the black communities was a crime, but at some point you need to look in the mirror. Inequality? yes…white people have to live in fear of murdering young black criminals who never had a father. Why don’t you get off your ignorant high horse and read what a real Black man had to say about you and your kind…MALCOLM X. He was real black man and knew that the blacks had to fix their own problem. He was not a fat, obese, loser, hypocrite, blame everyone else but yourself person. You are an embarrassment. MalcolmX would bitch slap you silly for being such a raw fool.

          • Smitty

            Do you ever address the question put to you? You might not like it, but young black men are murdered at a horrendous rate by other young black men. The point of the article is therein lies the problem and it behoves the black community to purt their efforts into solving or at least improving that problem.

          • Joaquim l’Antonio

            please, do not be in denial.. I am a black man & I tend to agree with this article… The point here wasn’t that girls are having babies out of wedlock, but that this was a factor… kids without good father figure have a higher chance of becoming a criminal because they will look up to the wrong people. You have to be completly blind to think everything is good in our community, look at the murder rate and the murder victims…
            the first thing to solve a problem, is first acknowledging it, then from there we can find a cure.

          • Eric Lencher

            93% of the time that a black man is shot in America, it isn’t by a scared white cop. It isn’t by a biracial Hispanic wanna be cop. It’s by another black man. Yet if you watch the news in America, you would swear that blacks are under siege. The statistics just don’t back that lie up!
            In 90% of interracial violent crimes, blacks are the perpetrators, and whites are the victims. But those stories get ignored by the media, because they aren’t sensational. Black males comprise 6% of the population, yet account for 70% of the violent crime.

          • Sally

            Except a black economist like Walter Williams says he’s old enough to remember when most racists were white, but now most racists are black.

            The National Center for Policy Analysis studies indicate that if Americans (regardless of skin color) do these things, they have very little chance of being poor:
            1) Graduate high school
            2) Get married
            3) Don’t have kids out of wedlock

            Now you tell me how many black leaders are pushing blacks to achieve all three. (Crickets) And how the prevalence of all three in the black community has DECREASED in the 60 years since Democrats came to save them. (Crickets)

            If people don’t do what they need to succeed, and if their leaders don’t strongly encourage them to, the logical and heartbreaking result is that they will fail. And become poor.

            Don’t you want blacks to break that record of failure? How can anyone not do those things and expect that they will achieve the same success as those who do them? That’s like expecting the law of gravity not to apply to you because you really want that to happen.

          • Matt h

            how about you both stop playing the blame game..look robin.. your right white america.. has done a lot of shitty things to blacks such as the big ones .. slavery and oppression but on the other side doesn’t matter what country your in why is it always the worst areas with the most rapes, murders and robberies are black neighborhoods? both you and nick are the issue with your country.. fix your issues! stop sling insults on both sides cause shit like this starts the hate and will never fix the problem.

        • Pepper

          Speaking of grammar, “Your” should be “You’re”.

        • Dan Kistner

          What is RUINING America is SCUM thinking that Corporations are people! Or a Congress that LIES ALL of the time (the republiCAN’T asshat CONServatives) as they accept ‘bribes’ from people like the Kochroach bros! Or companies and the top 2% NOT paying their share of taxes! Or NO JOBS BILL by Cry-baby Boehner, or Congress upholding the Constitution Of The United States Of America! The one the SWORE on a Bible to uphold! Or the cutting of $ to Education so fucktards like you can try to ‘act’ superior because you are richer than others! IF you are too STUPID ( and YOU are, because you are a racist republiCAN’T ) “As if White women are NOT having babies out of wedlock!” What part, did your little-penis boy brain NOT understand? YOUR racist party, and YOUR God, rush limpballs IS WHAT is RUINING OUR Country, The United States Of America! Crawl back under the rock you crawled outta!

        • jesskazen

          you’re*

        • Kristi

          You sir are ignorant, it may be ignorance, or with well intentions. But if you stop looking at just one set of statistics, and look at the whole picture you may understand this world better. I’m not defending people who do wrong, of any race, but if the playing field was even,i think minorities would have a better upbringing, there commit less crimes

      • chillchi

        Sweety you can’t preach to these white folks about their history of crimes, that’s the same as preaching to demons so that they become angels.

        Whites are born to be liars,rapist,killers and thieves, and also homosexuals.

        And no whites are not intelligent, just about every invention in the past century that makes life easier, was invented by someone of color.

        But not to take away from the contribution of the white race, they invented Venereal disease,pollution and suntan lotion.

        So what have we learned here, lets review……Whites are the devil the Bible speaks of, they pollute the water they need to drink,they poison the food they need to eat,and they pollute the air they need to breath…..only a devil would do these things.
        Oh! and yes they are the root of homosexuality.

        Now then, i hope this clears up the conversation you have been having with these troglodytes who call them self’s white when they are actually red. You see they don’t even know what color they are.

        • robynbuckins

          WOW… you are funny.. I don’t like to trade insults with people just because they don’t share my point of view… but you have made my day… I needed a good laugh…

          • LeCalabro

            Can I recommend a Psycologist for you. Your anger is too deep.

        • Wesley Stolz

          Well then PLEASE go back to Africa!!!

          If America is filled with demons, then go to the oh so prosperous land of the blacks. Where you may get burned to death for stealing bread. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f9a_1374744487

          It is not your “culture”, if you can call it that. It is YOU!
          You are nothing more than a bunch of underdeveloped humans who are unfit for a place in civilized society. It was a mistake to have you brought into this country as slaves and it was a bigger mistake to free you. You are simply a step up from a mongrel dog.
          I’ve learned there is no debating how you need to change your ways, because that is just how you are.
          When Hispanics, Caucasians, Asians, etc. all HATE you, then most likely its not them…IT’S YOU!!!

          • IAmMe

            “Underdeveloped humans who are unfit for a place in civilized society”… Hmm… So that is unlike caucasions whose skin peels under direct sunlight, something which is neccesary to live. Or whose body lacks significant melanin which is beneficial to to the mind and nervous system. To be honest, I see no way, no, not 1, in which displays white people as physically advance. In comparison, white women naturally have a more difficult time giving birth to children. Your kind could not survive the treatment that those of the bloack race have. So alhough caucasions have became a so-called, leader, in these times. It has nothing to do with actual and true superiority. It is based off the use of thievery, lying, infringement, misinforming and other evil tactics used to manipulate the people. More truth for you, look around. It is also happening to you independent of your shade. The government continues to operate in the ways of its forefathers. We all are victims. Just some has it worst then others. Although you may feel your argument is valid, you may need to open your eyes to what has really and is currently happening. Also the reason for this happening. Is it something that you could handle? You can choose to be ignorant, but at the end of the day, the right people will see and know the truth. Just like slavery was doomed to fail, so will the supremacy you have (not you personally – but whites as a collective group) as it is built on lies and blood.

          • Wesley Stolz

            So let me get this straight…you are saying that whites are less human because we have more issues with nature? Let me put it to you this way…I’m pretty sure that a chimpanzee has a better chance of surviving in the wild physically than a human does. Just like black people have a better chance of surviving in the wild physically than a white person. Do you see where I am going with this? Superiority when it relates to the human race is measured in intellect and societal behavior. One thing that blacks are lagging behind when it comes to ALL other races. If you want to say that blacks are superior because they are more like chimpanzees then you are a real genius aren’t you! Thank you for proving my point.
            For your second point you discuss the government’s roll as it pertains to its citizens. The government is weakening the people of the country as that makes them easier to control. However, if you believe that the government is out to get blacks then you are just down right idiotic. Have you heard of affirmative action? Have you heard of all the free rides through college because a kid is black. Have you heard of all the free housing allocated specifically to blacks? So you are saying that all of these things should be taken away and that would make things better for blacks? I agree it would make things better, but for the society and not for your…race. Your race is like a spoiled little brat child…you get every advantage over the other kids and are so lazy you still fall behind them and then you blame everyone else for not giving them more. A plague on humanity…that is your race!

      • It Girl

        Yea they just have abortions. Outta sight outta mind.

      • LeCalabro

        True, whites do have babies out of wedlock, but they do not become thugs, equal to blacks. IS IQ involved?? Some say yes. .

      • David Roberson

        All things equal, white people in the same situation don’t have the same rates of bad things as black people. Poverty and inequality aren’t causing it. You can look at white people who live in the same neighborhoods and their murder rates, out of wedlock child birth, crime, and everything else is much lower. This is simply a cultural problem with your people.

        All things equal, the Asians beat everyone hands down in income, education, and every real matrix that means anything.

      • Ryan

        GSR didn’t say white women didn’t have babies out of marriage GSR said the stats on babies born to black women. One last thing the only comeback for GSR would have been the stats on babies born to white women. Also learn history who sold blacks to be used as slave was it the white man no it was rival BLACK tribes in Africa.

      • Ronnie

        Once again, how do these comments lend anything to a fix to the problem. We know how things got this way but that’s a different point. Until we break the cycle of entitlements and apathy it will get worse. Most of the ghettos in this country are black and its only going to change from within. It will take love and education and it can be done. It will never be done if we are going to talk about the government trading guns and dropping crack into neighborhoods. Upper class white neighborhoods wouldn’t put up with that crap and neither should black people. Its time for black people to stand up and clean up their back yard. No excuses and no blame. Same goes for the white trash.

        • robynbuckins

          “most of the ghettos in this country are black”….. ummmm……THE CHANGE HAS GOT TO HAPPEN WITHIN… are you implying that Blacks lack values and morals and somehow to blame for ghettos in urban cities… REALLY…. btw.. do you live under a rock because there are more than Blacks living in ghettos these days… try our Brown brothas and sistahs… oh yeah and Chinatown(s) ain’t no damn picnic either… oooweeeee you see the problem with you as well as others participating in this discussion (if that is what you want to call it).. is that you see race issues from a binary perspective…… no longer sweetie….

          • nicholasstix

            “are you implying that Blacks lack values and morals and somehow to blame
            for ghettos in urban cities…”

            I’m not implying it, I’m saying it.

            “try our Brown brothas and sistahs…”

            Except for the people who falsely call themselves “black,” You have no brown brothers and sisters.

            “oh yeah and Chinatown(s) ain’t no
            damn picnic either…”

            Actually, this nation’s Chinatowns are picnics, compared to racist black slums, with which they have absolutely nothing in common.

            So now, in your racist delusions, two other groups, which hate blacks to the bone, are your “brothas and sistahs”?

            You’re not only a racist, but a delusional moron, in the bargain.

            Nicholas Stix, Uncensored

          • LeCalabro

            Thanks Nick—Louie Calabro

          • RWR4TX

            Yes. Blacks lack values and morals and are absolutely to blame for the conditions in their ghettos.

          • robynbuckins

            good night .. hahahahaha

          • robynbuckins

            long live WHITE SUPREMACY!

          • robynbuckins

            all muslims are terrorist too.. and hispanics all mostly likely illegals.. and on and on and on.. it never ends .. again….Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

          • robynbuckins

            all muslims are terrorist too.. and hispanics are mostly likely illegals.. and on and on and on.. it never ends .. again….Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

          • robynbuckins

            Black codes, jim crow, segregation… are just figment of AA imaginations …. ahahahahahahaha and would argue that these laws are hidden in structures, masked… hidden… and on and on…. Can you think your way out of a paper bag

          • robynbuckins

            “Racists will always call you a racist when you identify their racism. To love yourself now – is a form of racism. We are the only people who are criticized for loving ourselves. and white people think when you love yourself you hate them. No, when I love myself they become irrelevant to me.”
            ― John Henrik Clarke

          • robynbuckins

            good night..i will leave you with your ignorance.. it’s been fun..

          • robynbuckins

            The white man has succeeded in subduing the world by forcing everybody to think his way. The white man?s propaganda has made him the master of the world. And those who have come in contact with it and accepted it have become his slaves.
            Marcus Garvey

          • robynbuckins

            They subjugate first, if the weaker peoples will stand for it; then exploit, and if they will not stand for SUBJUGATION nor EXPLOITATION, the other recourse is EXTERMINATION.
            Marcus Garve

          • robynbuckins

            it’s late and I don’t have time to really pick you apart so i will just find thoughts and quotes of those who shoulders I stand on to respond to your HATE…LOL!

        • robynbuckins

          when the last time you try something for the first time… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EOBv-DTFT4

          • Wesley Stolz

            From the jumble of this “poet” in your link, “We take it because ain’t nobody giving”
            You don’t see an issue with that statement?

          • RWR4TX

            Your words, in this very thread:
            “hahahahahahahaha .. now you are on youtube.. try opening up a book and
            shaped the issues within the proper context….. and I am dumb”

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      • Cat
      • fred flinstone

        WTF #s tell. Races aren’t the same you ass.

      • ricksmooth_47

        Sure, for every white woman having a baby out of wedlock 19 black women are. So, don’t be so afraid of the truth. Blacks are destroying the country. Fix your problem.

      • tomdolan

        The rate of illegitimacy among whites has risen from about 3 %
        when I was born sixty years ago to over 20 % now, and still rising.
        The rate among whites now is above what the rate was among blacks when I was born. This is not a benign development.

      • mwlovin

        They are not…the whites choose abortion…you look at the data…do not believe me. both suck

      • Sally

        25% of white babies born out of wedlock.
        71% of black babies born out of wedlock.
        Practically three times more for black kids.
        Do you seriously think there won’t be consequences to not having a father in the home? You seriously don’t see a difference with blacks being about 12-13% of the population, but committing (and victims) of 50% of the murders? That’s four times their % of the population. You seriously don’t see that this is a problem?

      • James Milb

        24% of white babies born out of wedlock, 78% of Blacks. Denial & finger pointing can be added tot he list of why Blacks are not succeeding in the USA.

    • Quip Town!

      I’m glad you’re paying attention because what has been allowed in the black community (i.e. Crack cocaine, Gun Violence)s just a prelude to what’s coming to the neighborhood near you (i.e. Heroine. and mass murders in your elementary and high schools.

      I truly hate to think this way but in spite of our color we’re all just people no better. So as you lock your doors and watch the deterioration of one group of people Know you’re people to. Thx for playing.

      • LeCalabro

        I disagree. In every category blacks are the worse.

        • IAmMe

          You disagree with what? That the same can happen to you? Ok, ignorance at its best.

    • zillaouch

      White people never parent they get outher people to do there job

      • Wesley Stolz

        My parents raised me. Along with EVERY other white person I know. Where do you get this crap?

    • zillaouch

      Some people don’t take care of they kids they find someone else to do it ….like everthing else

      • Dan Kistner

        Nice racist sexist picture!

        • Cucksmasher_14

          That’s a libtard’s great grandparent right there.

          • jesskazen

            @cucksmasher_14:disqus you sound like a total idiot when you use the term “libtard”

            no critical thinking skills so you resort to BS comments

          • Cucksmasher_14

            Not at all – the libtard is a common phenomenon you see in the world today.

            Change the racial demographics of the White countries of the world to “improve” them = libtards

            IQ is a meaningless social construct. It measures nothing. It predicts nothing. Oh, and by the way, right of center folks have lower IQs than us = libtards

            When blacks attack Whites, you must hide race in the story. Yet when a White commits a “thought crime” that offends some hypersensitive blacks, make it front page news = libtards

          • mac12sam12

            I feel the same way when I’m called a teabagger.

          • Eric Lencher

            In all fairness, you aren’t called a teabagger because of your political views, but more so for your sexual proclivities.

          • mac12sam12

            You mean like Reggie and Barry? Sexual perversion is a left wing characteristic. Nice try though, libtard!

          • Danny Wade

            Sexual perversion is exclusively a left-wing characteristic. I was told this in Morse code by a Republican senator tapping his foot on the floor of a men’s room stall. At least I think that was the message.

          • mac12sam12

            That’s all you have? Anthony Weiner sending photos of himself to underage girls. Senator Menendez, underage prostitutes, Filner serial groper, Clinton, accused of rappe and exposing himself to Paula Jones, and finally, Ted Kennedy, the first one with a confirmed kill, talk about a war on women!

          • Danny Wade

            It’s all I need to refute the claim that “sexual perversion” is all left wingers. If I’d known it was a generic pissing contest I could have found you a few dozen examples, but it turns out at this point I don’t care enough. You may return to coddling your delusions.

          • ash

            Don’t forget John “I cheated on my wife dying with cancer” Edwards. Another democrat BTW.

          • http://radiomankc.blogspot.com/ Radioman KC

            Now that’s a good one.

        • Fidelis ad urnam

          Although I disagree entirely with who posted this picture- how is this racist and sexist? That’s just really stupid. This is clearly a historical piece of artwork and was just depicting life in seventeenth or eighteenth century. Many black slaves or “mammys” were wet nurses as were women of every color. And she is just nursing a baby. So what? That’s not sexist. I think it’s a sweet picture.

      • Sabrina Doingme Thomas

        sick

    • badbob85037

      It’s 8 out of 10 Black Americans born without fathers. And to think before Democrats started giving their hand outs (not to be confused with a hand up) a Black American Woman was less likely to have a baby out of wedlock than any other race. Along with being the strongest family unit and the most religious. But only given hand outs one loses pride, self respect and the ability to make life’s most simple decisions. It brings out the worse in ones sole. The perfect example is Katrina. Enough said.

    • KNOWSHIT

      If you are not Asian u have no room to talk

    • Black_Fist

      3 out of four white babies will be molested by a family member before the age of 5. 1 out of every 5 white person would have tried some sort of hallucinogen before the age of 10.

  • tkellybal

    I get the strong impression that race relations are getting worse, and that utopian dream uttered by MLK is a distant fantasy. The cold truth is that the world is filled with hate, and always will be. We might look back on the 70’s-90’s as the peak of peaceful race relations. I can imagine things continuing to get worse. I hope I’m wrong.

    • truebearing

      You’re not wrong. More and more whites, and other ethnic groups, are getting sick of black thuggery. Sooner or later, things will boil over and we’ll have a racial civil war. It seems to be the goal of Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and every other prominent black leader.

      • Lee

        No, it’s the goal of white supremacists/nationalists. You all want there to be a race war so you can have an excuse to kill blacks and segregate yourselves from them. Black thuggery isn’t the only kind of thuggery in the United States. You are the one trying to foment racial hatred, because you don’t like blacks. Why don’t you blog on Stormfront.org?

        • tickletik

          Actually, we want to see the system stop hounding black men out of their homes and families.

          1. Cut all welfare payments off. – if you give a woman welfare checks then she has a choice to either be provided for by her husband or by the State. She’ll pick the State.

          2. No-fault Divorce does not give the woman the children – if she initiates the divorce she should lose the kids.

          3. repeal VAWA. – In real life women hit men as much as men hit women, and the myth of the wife beating maniac has a reality of a woman who hit him first. Currently the law is used to imprison and destroy men on behalf of the black robed sociopaths in the courts.

          4. no more alimony – you want to leave, then leave. But you get no cash and prizes b/c you were born with a vagina

          5. no more child support – if you don’t like it, then let the kids go with the father. Men are not ATM/sperm banks to provide women with free kids and money.

          6. Stop shaming men – if men aren’t getting married – it’s because marriage is a disgusting joke. If they aren’t committing to American women, it’s because American Woman is NOT WORTH COMMITTING TO.

          Or we can continue on the current course and put 50,000 more men in prison for child support payment failures.

          • tomcat

            except you do realise many men are not interested (to the extent of women) in the rearing of the kids ? that many men are quite happy to pay the ex-wife to do the work – afterall it is a hell of a lot cheaper than a nanny…

          • fakehair

            Wow you are about the b.s. Aren’t you? Of course there should be child support awarded to the custodial parent. If YOU make a baby as a man you damn well BETTER contribute. Sorry you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
            If you make a baby you have to provide for the child end of story,
            Educate yourself, because child support award has nothing to do with the custodial parents inability to support the child. Child support is awarded because if you created the brat then you must financially support your brats, sorry to burst your bubble dear, but you shouldn’t get out of payingnchild support because you have a twisted mind and a penis.
            Sorry honey try again. It doesn’t really matter how much mom or custodial makes youmstill have to pay to support your kids. Because your kids are your responsibility too, not just the ex’s It boils down to you taking responsibility not an inability to provide for your kid on your own.
            Children often live with their dads these days and i’ve heard of the female parent sending child support, duh case you don’t know they charge women child support too! I have a friend who’s female who owes back support of over 30,000.

          • tickletik

            “Sorry honey try again.”

            Okey-dokey!

            “Wow you are about the b.s. Aren’t you?”

            I AREN’T! Whoo-hoo! :D

            “Of course” Whose course? Yours? Hows your “course” working out for society “honey”? Or do you give a damn about anything past your own selfish interests?

            ” there should be child support awarded to the custodial parent.” I have a better idea, let’s scrap child support entirely, and give the kid over to the parent that didn’t initiate the divorce. Alternatively, we could actually enforce prenups instead of letting black robed sociopaths arbitrarily decide what amount a man “should” pay. But that would take away one of your precious privileges.

            ” If YOU make a baby as a man you damn well BETTER contribute.” Wait a minute, I’M the one making the baby? No problem. Then give me my kid, and get the hell out.

            “Child support is awarded because if you created the brat then you must financially support your brats, sorry to burst your bubble dear,” ‘Honey’… ‘dear’ … you are so frisky and friendly! I have to say, it makes a boy feel a bit shy!

            And there you go with telling me they are mine again. So if they are mine, why would I give a useless jerk money to keep them away from me? Especially when I know I could do a far better job raising them than you ever could.

            “It doesn’t really matter how much mom or custodial makes you still have to pay to support your kids”

            LOL. It’s not the kids I have problems supporting. It’s your fat useless entitled rear end that I don’t feel like giving a dime too.

            And that’s another thing. I used to be one of those poor stupid idiots that listened to mindless blather like yours about how men have responsibilities to clean up womens bad choices, blah blah blah, etc.

            Then I realized something interesting. As long we force men to commit to things they never agreed to, then women will continue sleeping around with Harley McBadboy, and NOT with Edward Peabody. Then when she is ready to generate some spawn, she’ll hook up with poor Edward Peabody and next thing you know she gets an “oopsie!” and right away she gets her free cash and prizes courtesy of some stupid chump and a whole bunch of State-sponsored thugs with badges acting on orders of black robed sociopaths who get permission from the hypocritical degenerates in the legislative houses, who themselves got voted into office by self-entitled princesses like you.

            NO.

            No more. To hell with that. To hell with your stupid unworkable insane system. To hell with all that crap. As far as I am concerned if she couldn’t bother to get married to the man before she decided to have her “ooopsie” then the child IS NOT HIS PROBLEM. If she decides to walk off with the kid in a no-fault marriage, then she gets to walk off WITHOUT her “cash and prizes” AND WITHOUT THE KID. If you women cannot commit then the only thing you deserve is our spit in your face, and even that we men are not going to bother giving you.

            Is that OK with you “dearie”?

          • Dartmouth ’11

            Chauvinist much? Men like us need to “man” up or get a vasectomy. Birth control should be more widely available as well to grant women a measure of increased control. Global statistics are clear on this, countries with liberal birth control laws actually have fewer abortions (i.e. mistaken births).

            Most of the issues you cite seem to be related to the child support system so I think custody rights (and therefore child rearing cost) should be split (unless one of the parents poses a danger to the child) where parents trade off taking care of the children in either bi-annual shifts or yearly ones (maybe even longer ones). It might create turbulence for the kid, switching between homes, but it might also create a fairer system. But forcing incompatible people to stay married through a system of divorce extortion is not the way to solve this, nor is placing the full burden of raising the kid on a single parent. One notable exception to the system I outlined above would be individuals that can’t raise the child alone for financial reasons. I think in those cases, efforts should be made to subsidize their income during their shifts by either the state or the other parent or full custody minus visitation rights should go to the more financially able parent (basically the current system). Nonetheless I’d leave these decisions up to the discretion of a judge.

            As for parents whom shirk their parenting rights, well the current system should be strengthened to make sure their payments are current or they’re really unemployed. Lastly, imprisoning someone should only occur if a parent willingly refuses to pay rather than involuntarily does so (through unemployment, a salary adjustment preventing them from making higher payments or some form of system violation).

          • tickletik

            HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

            (deep breath)

            BWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

          • fakehair

            You must live in a fantasy world. Not all women choose to be single. And btw an Au pair or nanny can cost up to between 300 and 900 a week in California, so it’s much more expensive to pay a nanny then itis to paychild support.
            If you ask me it sounds like you’re bitter against women and hate women.
            Listen if you lay down and do the deedthen you pay the price whether you live with your baby mamma or not doesn’t mean you quitpaying for your off spring.
            You can’t expect a woman to take care of your kids full time, work full time cook, clean and do everything while you coast doing nothing on the chill.
            Please stop running your crazy mouth bud. Cuz you still gonba have to pay even if you don’t like it.
            Then you wonder why your kids are dysfunctional.

            Wonen don’t get cash and prizes for kids you idiot, and not all single moms choose to be single, sometimes men abandon women with kids. You sound like biggesf sexist alive I feel sorry if you have any daughters. Please don’t procreate. Thanks in advance.:-)

          • tickletik

            “You must live in a fantasy world.” Why would I ever want to live in a fantasy world, when I’ve got lovely caring giving gentle generous sweet women like you to keep me company?

            “If you ask me”

            I didn’t.

            ” it sounds like you’re bitter against women and hate women.”

            Nahhhh! Maybe you tend to think that about men because you are used to getting that reaction from all the men who associate with you for me than 10 minutes?

            “Listen if you lay down and do the deedthen you pay the price whether you live with your baby mamma or not”

            And even if the kid is mine or not too!

            “doesn’t mean you quitpaying for your off spring.”

            -edit- “your offspring and my really irresponsible selfish self centered narcissistic decision making”. Oh my dear, the day they come out with a male version of the pill is the day I will smugly listen to your scream of denied rage from halfway across the planet. That is the day your bs ends forever.

            And funny how it’s always the man who is paying. Oh wait, that’s actually not so true anymore, cuz all the young men are either LEAVING THE DAMN COUNTRY, AVOIDING MARRIAGE LIKE THE PLAGUE OR TURNING FERAL.

            “Cuz you still gonba have to pay even if you don’t like it”

            And even if I didn’t sleep with you!

            “You can’t expect a woman to take care of your kids full time, work full time cook, clean and do everything while you coast doing nothing on the chill.”

            I thought we were speaking about American women?

            “Please stop running your crazy mouth bud. Cuz you still gonba have to pay even if you don’t like it.”

            Cha-ching! Cash and Prizes for the wimminz!

            OR – and this is going to be a radical concept for you, so brace yourself – I could just take care of myself and make sure some worthless two-bit whore doesn’t get impregnated with MY KID.

            “Then you wonder why your kids are dysfunctional.”

            Well it certainly can’t be because Heroic! Single! Mothers!

            “Wonen don’t get cash and prizes for kids you idiot,”

            That’s right. They get cash and prizes for betraying their husbands to an insane satanic court system run by maniacs who cater to selfish self centered narcissistic assholes like you.

            “You sound like biggesf sexist alive I feel sorry if you have any daughters.”

            LOL. You WISH I was your daddy.

            “Please don’t procreate. Thanks in advance.”

            Oh, was that a request for me to do something on your behalf? Let me think about it … mmmmm … what’s the standard answer I give to some useless chit who thinks she’s entitled to something from me? Oh yeah – NAH. DENIED.

          • Pure Truth

            I hear and understand your point but you have to know as an educated person come on that the system is set up for a women to come Prosper?If not you must not have any experience with situation that would show you then..

          • robynbuckins

            tell his behind.

        • truebearing

          Face reality, Lee. look at the statistics on crime in America. It is overwhelmingly blacks who commit the most violent crime, and crime in general. The black leadership has bamboozled themselves into believing the lies of the Left, and realizing that blacks intimidate most other people, including whites, think they can bully themselves into power. That is why they don’t condemn black on white violence, but squeal like stuck pigs when someone like George Zimmerman kills a black thug.
          Deal with the truth, for once in your delusional life. Blacks are the ones causing the problems for themselves, not whites. It is only natural that people are sick of it after pumping trillions into various forms of welfare, only to see no improvement.
          It is blacks who talk about segregation now, or did you miss that?

          • Huckleberry

            You’re only half right. It is obvious that blacks act in violence more often than people of other races. I don’t base this off the 6 oclock news, I’ve grown up in one of the most diverse places in the world and seen it with my own two eyes. That being said, your point about welfare not improving the statistics only supports the theory that welfare actually contributes to the violence by offering mothers incentives to not have a husband (therfore fathers) in the home. Statistics show that people of all races will be more likely to live a criminal life if they grow up without a father. Some speculate that this was a deliberate effort to break down the family unit along with the women’s lib movement ( make women get a job to be less involved in the raising of children) so that children could be indoctrinated with government values instead of family values. For whatever reason thug culture values took the place of family values (you can probably blame greedy media)

          • CharlesFinley

            You don’t base is OFF the news?

          • robynbuckins

            did you say the news… hahhahahahaha tell me is that FAUX NEWS……. oh boy.. smdh

          • Jonathan

            Truebearing, you need to look at the History of Welfare and where welfare came from. Before America became America by the Europeans who settled here. Natives people lived throughout our great country. Those natives people were Murdered, Raped, Betrayed, Exterminated by your white Europeans Ancestors. I know you don’t want to hear this, but I am telling the truth. Your Europeans Ancestors took million acres of land and robbed these innocent people of their land, language and culture, which to include much more. I know you don’t want to hear this, but this is true. You are a benefactor of your European Ancestory, which mean you are a Thief, Murders, Rapist, Bigot, Killer, Liar, Convert and most of all a Sheep I. Wolf Skin. Truebearing, our European Ancestors arrive in America with a bible in their hands, but they were far from Christianity. How can a Christan place people in slavery and place Native Indignious People on Reservations and Called them Indians. Your Europeans Ancestors even went a step further and place Africans on Plantatios, which they robbed them of their language, culture, life, education and illegally put them in prison in a foreign land. Black Americans are the strongest people on earth because We Had To Fight For Everything we have today and we are continue to fight for justices. All other immigrants are riding the coat tails of Black Americans, who gave their lives and whom help build our great country. I do admitt there is black on black crime, just as there is white on white crime. I nor you and anyone else, who is reading this message are far from perfect. Blacks and White harmony can be a beautiful thing, if we learn to work together. We all have so much to learn from each other. Speaking of Welfare, you need to learn the history of Welfare. Truebearing, lets learn the real truth and stop running from the TRUTH.
            Throughout the 1800’s welfare history continued when there were attempts to reform how the government dealt with the poor. Some changes tried to help the poor move to work rather than continuing to need assistance. Social casework, consisting of caseworkers visiting the poor and training them in morals and a work ethic was advocated by reformers in the 1880s and 1890s.

            Prior to the Great Depression, the United States Congress supported various programs to assist the poor. One of these, a Civil War Pension Program was passed in 1862 and provided aid to Civil War Veterans and their families.

            When the Great Depression hit, many families suffered. It is estimated that one-fourth of the labor force was unemployed during the worst part of the depression. With many families suffering financial difficulties, the government stepped in to solve the problem and that is where the history of welfare as we know it really began.

            Under President Franklin D. Roosevelt, the Social Security Act was enacted in 1935. The act, which was amended in 1939, established a number of programs designed to provide aid to various segments of the population. Unemployment compensation and AFDC (originally Aid to Dependent Children) are two of the programs that still exist today.

          • robynbuckins

            tell the truth Jonathan

          • Alex

            You can count blacks as benefactors as well, they live and enjoy USA. Otherwise they’d be roaming Africa with AIDS and try to come to Europe like many of their “brothers from Africa” are trying to do now. Why do white men have to let them in?

          • LeCalabro

            Europeans are not angels, but Indians were killing each other long before we got here.

          • robynbuckins

            what black leadership… so let’s see legalized discrimination is not a problem…

          • John

            You just a fucking black troll

          • LeCalabro

            Some very intelligent decent blacks are trying to get out of hell—–but, as a group they have a long way to go. We should hope and pray that they can improve their lot.

        • Bill Nelson

          Nobody wants to live around black people not even other
          Black people. Anyplace you live is where all the crime is.
          You hate each other so much in Chicago there drive around shooting other blacks they don’t even know. You have sperm donors not fathers. As a whole your race
          Is really messed up. I don’t care what people say. 99 percent of white people don’t want to be around you.
          You are nothing but trouble. Truth!,,,,,,,,

          • Toady

            Correction. Nobody wants to live around POOR people. Spend some time in a white redneck meth-ridden trailer park and tell me you don’t want to get the hell out of there. Black violence is not just a black problem. It’s an AMERICAN problem. American culture in general glorifies violence, and poor black kids, especially young men with criminal records (even non-violent offenders) have precious little to lose. We (and I mean Americans, black, white, and whatever else) need to start giving people reasons to value their lives and their futures.

        • Rhonda Clark

          Blacks kill every race daily wake up they have lyinched millions of every race , get a gun,..also SEE BLACK MOBS BEATING WHITES that mean white , Latino, Mexican..in SAME WHITE GROUP…White girls bleed allot …New Nation News..WND NEWS…Crimes in Chicagio 2013 blog spot.com a must see a daily blog say they will kill us…..Black race war with Latino…Black race war with Mexicians..Black mobs looting see them in action..16 thousand wihtes beaten to death a year even if your a black Christian, black on black crimes are up…get a gun and live.

          • robynbuckins

            your ignorance is astounding… everyone is to blame except Europeans.. they are so perfect.. oowee

          • LeCalabro

            White behavior IS better than black behavior. I wish it were not that way.

        • Nick Juvonen

          Your really not getting the big picture of this article are you? You are in denial that YOUR people kill more. It’s your “Gangsta thug life” culture that is ruining America. I have the feeling you were too lazy to read the article and use proper grammar. Please don’t respond with “You are just racist.” Please, just please leave this site as you are too stupid to comprehend it.

    • Lynn4444

      Maybe it isn’t just race relations. Look, robins would rather hang out with other robins and not sparrows. Maybe some of this is as simple as that.

      • Bystander

        Very good point, it probably has a lot to do with just that.

  • truebearing

    When you live in a country where simple facts are construed as racist — by substantial numbers of one race, the media, and liberals — you know things have deteriorated to a point of extreme volatility.
    Truth is no longer valued by large portions of the black community and nearly all leftists. What greater cleft can there be in a culture than one where some value truth and some summarily reject it? How is that rift going to be healed?

    • ziggy zoggy

      The rift can’t be healed. Honest people have to figure out how to take their country back. Beat the left and other racists over their heads with the truth.

    • anna

      I thinl that the truth is not valued because many of the poor are not raised with tje truth.The elite left has always told them they can not do anything without handouts and deserve it because they are perpetial victims. I do believe that the liberals wants a race war, it seems they are bent on destroying america and what it used to stand for.

      • Mykiale

        I concur with anna; awhile back i did some research on FEMA and found that they are now in charge of all police, military under the UN councils. They (FEMA) ordered more than 450,000,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition and shortly afterwards the government ordered 1.5 billion rounds and that sent off a big red flag. Why would FEMA have need of ammunition and at such a high volume unless they were expecting civil unrest. I am not a highly educated man but nor am I so unintelligent that I can’t see a well planned plot. Things just don’t happen they happen for a reason and as I see it everything before and since 9/11 has spelled high level government involvement in all. We’ve been programmed by news media, talk shows that perverts the truths of what is actually going on behind the scenes while being led to our doom by political leaders black and white. The 9/11 horror has not been justified and we as a country have accepted what has happen while they continue eradicating our constitutional rights! Maybe I’ve not expressed myself in a more professional platform but I hope that most of you can understand where I am comming from and what I mean.

        • Bystander

          This is crazy. Enough.

  • ziggy zoggy

    The Time author is right except for one thing. The White left-wing upper class still encourages Black thuggery and failure. In fact, it is the group most responsible for concocting phony Black grievances and the phony excuses used to blame them all on “institutional White racism.” This subversive method of dividing society and “nudging” dupes toward communism was initiated by the KGB but it has been preached as Gospel by academia, the government and media for over thirty years now. This disinformation campaign reinforces what many Blacks already believe and it tells them they are justified and “hip” to continue the way they have been. This thug culture has spread to other races in America and even overseas.

    Black thuggery was created by Black failure and anti-social criminality but it was the White (and Black) left-wing upper class who made it respectable and popular.

    • bjedwards

      agreed

    • Heidi

      Just say it.
      Hollywood, the music industry, mafia, etc, is controlled by the Jews, and has been since the beginning.
      Jews were never seen as “White” until after WWII – everybody knew there was a difference, but now they get to claim “Whites” do it when it is them because they are seen as “White”, and claim a “minority” standpoint while they stand with those of “color”.

      I wish more people could be courageous enough to stand up to these people. You can complain about everyone and everything, but you mustn’t ever speak about the Jews.

      • Lynn4444

        I’m white and not Jewish and although they may be in prominate positions in media and entertainment I don’t see them as a problem. Jewish people contribute a great deal to our society, medicine, and science. You’re right in that you can’t tell them to stop chasing 90 year old former nazis and to stop complaining about and making movies about supposed discrimination, but other than that, with few exceptions they’re very good people.

        • Heidi

          Are they?
          Have you read their Holy Books of Laws, the “Talmud”?

          Let me ask you this: Jews only make up 2% of the US population (and even less of the world population), do you really think it’s a good thing to have a minority in control of the Media?

          • Bystander

            The media is a market place driven more by demand than it’s owners… you see what you see in the media simply because it sells.

          • LeCalabro

            Some thruth in that—but the OWNERS can censor and control what is published IF they OWN the Media.

        • Bob Sten

          Lynn, please read the book “culture of critique” by Kevin macdonald. Prepare to be woken up

      • justin

        Ah, I don’t think the Jews are that bad on the whole. I’m good friends with one, and he’s not a bad guy. The Jews I’ve known have been nice people. (I’m middle class) I’ve never known a rich media-controlling Jew, just middle class ones.

        • Heidi

          Justin –
          Here’s the thing, it never is about the lower classes of Jews, it never has been. The lower classes, like us are trying to get by, and still make enough cash to be happy.
          It has nothing to do with them.
          The lower classes are the scapegoats – I should say the lower classes that oppose the supremacist ideology and oppose what the Central Banking System is up to around the World, and denounce the teachings of the Talmud.
          But the ones in control, the ones that have accumulated Billions of dollars off of unjust dealings with governments around the world, and lending fiat currency to governments at high interest rates (usury), those are the ones that are the problem. They claim to be Jews, but if you look at the Ten Commandments, they don’t follow them. They have the power, they have the prestige, they have the gold, they make the rules.

          But if you read what the Talmud has to say, then you will see what “Law” these money changers follow.

        • LeCalabro

          Search Jews and News Media Control. See what happens. I’m going to do that now.

      • RWR4TX

        You got that right!

    • disqus_PcuUOAi3Y2

      I can really respect a Black man who can see right to the truth – the Left-wing liberals actively keep Black violence and criminality alive by painting them time and time again as “victims” of social oppression instead of punishing and shaming them for their behaviour.

      America’s media is all too eager to exploit this and push campaigns to end “Institutionalized racism” while doing nothing to actually curb the violence.

      I hate to say it because it is so stereotypical, but the Jewish elite who run Hollywood, News media, Banks, Record companies, Radio and television, Corporate groups; they are invested in keeping us ignorant and making sure we buy and become mesmerized with whatever they feed us. They want young Blacks to become obsessed with money, women, drugs, designer clothing, expensive cars and jewelry, they don’t want them to adopt modesty and creative individuality

  • Elizabeth capecod

    The more the left pushes the narrative that Blacks are victims, the more they feel emboldened and justified to hunt a pound of flesh….even when it is the flesh of other Blacks.

  • JoeBotz

    Truth hurts, but facts are facts! Black on White crime is grossly under reported or labled a hate crime ie. today I heard that a White WW2 Vet. in his ninety’s, was BEATEN to death by two Black thugs! What will Obama-Mugabe’s reaction be?
    Yep, if he had two son’s they would look just like they do. No firearms were used to murder this victim of a hate crime!

    • Dean Smith

      In Hershey, PA, chocolate town USA, a Black man killed a 80 some year old white lady in her child’s home because he thought she was a witness to a crime. Who does that?

      • bjedwards

        black thugs

    • robynbuckins

      Another generalization… support it with some facts..the fact of the matter is that black males are demonize and projected they are violent since slavery…. white privilege

      • REALITY

        Numbers don’t demonize anyone. Who’s fault is it that young black men are killing people at a rate 14 times higher than their counterparts…… Or are the numbers fixed as well.

        • robynbuckins

          well try taking an historical examination as to why young black men are killing one another then apply context and you might arrive at some VALID reasons as to why… there is no ONE answer to that question but many…

          • Alex

            I wouldn’t mind, they can kill each other all they want, but I care about my white tribe, and blacks seem to kill awful a lot of my people.

          • Black_Fist

            But not as much as whites seem to kill each other.

          • Wesley Stolz

            Please enlighten us!

          • LeCalabro

            Please provide us with VALID reasons for black, mostly male crime.

      • Mike

        Oh can it, Robyn, you sub-human savage. You can’t even make a coherent point. What privilege? Being harassed, mugged, raped, killed by you animals? It’s quite a privilege. Enjoy your EBT card. “It’s free, swipe yo EBT!” Not free for us, slave.

        • robynbuckins

          thank you Mike for proving my point with that typical response.. white privilege… hahahahahaha……ooooweeeeeeee

      • Jacques Marneweck

        If you where made to buy a slave. Would you go for the violent one that might kill you in your sleep? I don’t think a slave owner or seller would try and instill a violent crinimal way of thinking? Go ask a slave trader in north africa how much it takes to remove all forms of aggression from a slave so you can put your fun down and turn his back. #blackunaccountability. look at those poor people that get murdered on the isis videos. That is how people like their slaves. Broken… I am very against slavery. But its not a western invention and the west have the lowest ammount a slavery in modern times. Some countries in Africa has up to a 2% slave population yet the AU pretends its a non issue. In many places in Africa you can still sell your own daughter. Instead of blaming westerners. Fix the problem at hope. Maybe stop pretending that gangster culture in general has a negative effect on all children. From spoiled brats that never did a chore intheir life to the child that had to mis a bbirthday or 2 cause there just is not any money for it. Children welfare rest solely in the hands of the previous generation. So going arround telling black kids they won’t make it thx to “white privilege” is setting up that child for failure.

    • robynbuckins

      how about white on black crime… get real

      • Alex

        It’s almost no0n-existant, well, except when a black drug pusher gets robbed by a white addict.

        • Clifton Rodney

          do u include cops crime against blacks

          • Jacques Marneweck

            Yip still does not even get close. Think about it.

      • tomdolan

        Of the four permutation this is by far the least common.
        The most common is black-on-black crime. I suspect that
        the second most common is white-on-white crime, but I may be wrong. White-on-black crime is vanishingly rare in comparison to the other three. Facts are stubborn things

  • Dean Smith

    And whites outnumber blacks about 6 to 1. Not a good statistic at all. We still need to treat all by their individual actions but we need much harsher penalties against the ones committing the crimes. We are all tired of the excuses for not knowing how to act.

    • Vic Hall

      Thank you Dean. I needed to see a post like that today.

      • Dean Smith

        Just curious what you mean exactly since your comment could be taken multiple ways.

        • Vic Hall

          It means two things:
          1) I agree with you, particularly when you say we need to treat all by their individual actions & we need harsher penalties
          2) I had just seen so many nasty comments, I just appreciated someone saying something thoughtful that made sense.

          • Dean Smith

            I have come to realize that the majority doesn’t bother with these articles and there are a couple mindless trolls that grow a pair because they are protected by a keyboard and spout out the most outrageous mind numming stuff. It’s easy to blame a race but when you really open your eyes you see that it’s really a minority acting up and most people of the same race are sick of it as well. The media likes the controversy though because it sells magazines. However, they way they “report” does a disservice to society because it seems when people get all worked up, they stop thinking and half the stuff that is supposed to be informing us is really just horribly skewing our views. For those people who still think the news is “the truth” it has a horrible effect.

  • bjedwards

    “When Obama hangs out with Jay-Z (sample lyric: Welcome to the melting pot, corners where we sellin’ rock), the message that he’s sending is that the black thug represents the black community.”

    Oh but the black thug DOES represent the black community. Black thug thinking permeates every layer of this community’s culture and beliefs, and racist race baiters like Eric Holder, Oprah, Sharpton, Obama, and “progressives” in the media exploit this to fan the flames of class division and enrich themselves at our expense.

  • David Ross

    Hey Juan Williams, got room for one more over there at Fox? We might have another one looking for a job soon.

  • David Ross

    WHITES/Non-Blacks need to STOP giving blacks a PASS just because the “LBJ Great Society Programs” were the root cause. At some point (it’s been decades now) the black communities need to begin holding themselves accountable, and since they apparently still refuse, then everyone else at least needs to. IN OTHER WORDS, don’t let anyone tell you “this isn’t about race.” Culture is race, race is culture. It starts with DROPPING the “no-snitch culture” adopted and maintained by black communities. No ifs, ands, buts, or maybes-SNITCH LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW, and get their butts put in jail. Start by TAKING BACK YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS. PURGE THEM of the thugs. If the “good blacks” truly cared, this is what they’d be doing.
    No excuses. if you’re fearful they have witness protection, but not every neighborhood has drug lords that will “find you out.”
    Accountability-you know, kind of like how this guy-MAYOR NUTTER (DEMOCRAT, OBAMA SUPPORTER) of Filthydelphia says:
    http://www.youtube(dot)com/watch?v=37XlP06nOPQ

    • anna

      Yes, but now its a huge uphill battle because in the poor communities people are dying, and families have to work to put food on the table while their children grow up around this thug culture. Often these families may still be grieving over a family member who was killed too. Im sure depression is also rampant. How could it not be?
      I think i would choose to move out even if it was with only the clothes on my back and take the chance of going anywhere else to improve my odds…

      • David Ross

        Re-read my comment. I said nothing about moving out-of course that is not possible for people in poor neighborhoods-it’s not possible for many middle class neighborhoods! What I am saying, is people need to SNITCH. People know who the bad guys are. Pick up the phone-even if you have to use a payphone, report these people to the police and PURGE THE CRIMINALS from your neighborhoods and society. Criminals in jail can’t rob/rape/murder can they?

        • Huckleberry

          they can, but only to other prisoners

          • David Ross

            Oh sure-let them keep in all in the (prison) family.

      • buddy hanna

        More White people are below the poverty line than black by more that 280% of total numbers.
        1. 33.8 million which is 13% of the whites in America vs. 11.9 million which is 35.9% of the black population in America.
        2. So why is 54.9 percent of the crime committed by 1/8 of the population (black).
        Stop blaming POVERTY because if that was the fact than 91.4% of the crime would be committed by Whites…do the math!

        I am tired of everyone blaming poverty…Here is the data from the Census bureau and FBI websites…

  • justsaynotoislam

    Part of the problem with the black community is jobs, or lack of them. The unemployment rate among blacks is much higher than whites. This could be solved by disolving any and all free trade treaties, which basically sent our manufacuring and other tech jobs overseas, but mostly has devastated our manufacturing sector. Bring back jobs, good paying jobs, and the hope of a better tomorrow instead of having to join a gang and sling “rock” or pot. The other issue is the family. Why is it that black men go from woman to woman and leave their children behind without a father? There is hardly any father figures for these children. The other issue is morality, or lack there of. Maybe because of the lack of family structure. Blacks attitudes need to change. And I’m not saying all blacks have these issues, but a majority of inner city blacks do.

    It is very politically incorrect but nonethess a fact that white people are much more likely to be murdered by black people in the US than vice versa.

    Most murders are within the same race, but even then blacks have a much higher rate of murdering each other than whites do.

    From http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl06.xls we see that in 2010, 447 whites were murdered by blacks, while 218 blacks were mudered by whites, for a total of 665 inter-racial murders.

    Given that blacks are 12.6% of US population, and whites are 72.4% of US population, the population ratio is .174 to 1 black to white.

    If the interracial murder rates were the same for both, we would expect 115 out of the 665 murders to be murders of whites by blacks. But the number was 447, which is 388% of the expected rate by populations.

    OTOH, the total number was only 447 murders of whites by blacks, which is a small number relative to the total population of the US. There were over 40,000 deaths because of car accidents in the same year.

    So a rational white person should be about 100 times more afraid of being killed by a car than being killed by a black person.

    http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1210768

    • buddy hanna

      I am tired of everyone blaming poverty…Here is the data from the Census bureau and FBI websites…

      More White people are below the poverty line than black by more that 280% of total numbers.
      1. 33.8 million which is 13% of the whites in America vs. 11.9 million which is 35.9% of the black population in America.
      2. So why is 54.9 percent of the crime committed by 1/8 of the population (black).
      Stop blaming POVERTY because if that was the fact than 91.4% of the crime would be committed by Whites…do the math!

      • justsaynotoislam

        I’m not saying that poverty is the sole reason, there are many factors but by your stats you have helped my argument. 36% of blacks fall at or below poverty vs. 13% of whites. How many of those whites are in rural america? I bet the majority and I bet the majority of blacks that are in that poverty category are inner city. Demographics plays a big part.

  • Monty Ehrich

    I left the USA back in 1979 to get away from the violence. No regrets.

  • Pirate82

    We are so blind not to realize that a race war is brewing. And it’s up to everyone no matter their race to stand up and say we will stand together and say no to our leaders that want to push us into this war. Our leaders will and always have done what ever they needed to do for their party on both sides of the party lines to move their agenda along. Now it’s up to all Americans to start using common since and stand up for what is morally right when it comes to race.

  • jojo3a3

    I have a dream – that Blacks go Back to Africa and stop having 70% of kids born to single moms

    • Guest

      And I have a dream that White Neanderthal bastards like you go back to the caves of the Caucacus Mountains and stop racially stereotyping, killing, destroying and stealing everywhere you guys go. And yes the White man is the devil!
      Fuck you and the White demonic race!

      • Huckleberry

        Guest, you are a racist. So don’t get mad at other racists ok? You also sound like you have poor impulse control and may be prone to violence.

        • robynbuckins

          stereotypical response.. hahahahahaha define what a racist is… hahahaha

          • RWR4TX

            robynbuckins

  • Atlatheist

    I find the discussion here interesting at best, misleading at worst and plainly more simple than any of the zealous comments left behind.

    I find it funny that the conservative comments being made speak of the black man’s ignorance at how the media and politics have harmed the black family while turning around and politicizing the argument themselves by blaming “Liberals” as the perpetrators of a conspiracy hidden to all but the white man.

    Is race a factor in crime, why yes, yes it is. When someone of race publicly displays, through social media or public forum, a self proclaimed hatred of another race, then proceeds to commit a murder of an individual within that hated race, then yes, by all available means it is a crime of race.

    When you look at the documents records of crime across the nation, and you compare the numbers, even without the knowledge of what number is connected to what race, you would say overwhelmingly that one group commits more murder than another.

    You can listen to those who try to fill your minds with the “who, what, when, where and how’s” of the statistics while sneaking in political jabs at their opposing political party or you can be simple like Einstein and many other before and after.

    “Occam’s razor” is the process used when investigating a reason for any given situation, the reason with the least amount of assumptions is the most likely conclusion. Layman’s terms – “The more simple the solution the more likely it is to be true”

    On April 29, James Edwards tweeted, “90% of white ppl are nasty. #HATE THEM.” This is a racist remark. He then later murdered a white person.

    Simplest Conclusion: Race Related Murder.

    What does all the other rhetoric have to do with this simple fact. Nothing.

    Ignore all the grandstanding and emotional outbursts and stick to facts. The simplest conclusion is already here

  • TruthTella

    Most of the murders taking place in major cities are gang related. It has nothing to do with race. Gang related crime has been a problem going all the way back to the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s and 60’s. During those times the gangs were Irish, Italian, Jewish, Polish, etc. The murder rate among these gangs was very high. In fact, the White gangs during those eras invented the whole concept of drive by shootings. The gangs of the past focused on robberies and burglaries. Today, most of the gangs are Black and Hispanic. They focus more on drug dealing and gun running as a way to finance their crime enterprise. However, instead of isolating the gang menace, the mainstream media focuses on all black males as the face of crime. Today’s Gang culture is being used to feed the multi billion dollar Beast known as the PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX by producing a steady stream of 1st time and repeat offenders. Hence, their is no real effort to try to eradicate the present day gangs because many people are getting paid as a result of their existence.

    It must be noted that high crime rates have more to do with class than race. Whites commit a large percentage of crime as well but it is not reported in the media. In fact, the actual number of rapes, arsons, child molestation cases, bank robberies, etc are higher among whites. And the White on White murder rate is just as high at 84%. Read the White Crime Blogs to see for yourself: Log on to http://www.Wh8te.com. But once again, the mainstream media uses racist propaganda to try to mold the public’s opinion into thinking that crime is rampant and that the Black Male is the face of crime. The truth is that overall violent crime and homicides have decreased by 30% over the last 7 years. And the fact is that the vast majority of Blacks in hoods across America are decent hard working, law abiding individuals. Black Americans are very hard working. Since 2000, the disposable income, of African Americans/Blacks has risen to an astounding $1.2 trillion dollars. (Just Research It) Let’s stand up against racial profiling and let’s speak up.

  • TruthTella

    The vast majority of Blacks in America are decent, hard working law abiding citizens. Since 2000, the disposable income, of African Americans/Blacks has risen to an astounding $1.2 trillion dollars. (Just Research It). Blacks have made great strides in the fields of science, invention, finance, etc. In fact, Blacks run some of the biggest companies in America. Did you know that the CEO’s of the $24 Billion McDonalds, the $23 Billion Xerox, $22 Billion Merck & Co, $10 Billion American Express, Red Lobster, Olive Garden and Jamba Juice are all Black?

  • TruthTella

    Crimes committed by White people are explained as deviations of the individual but have nothing to do with race, but crimes committed by Blacks or Latino’s are somehow attributed to race. Gang-bangers from South Chicago have somehow become a symbol that Black men are to be feared, but you don’t get the same portrait fear of of all White males that one could attach to the brutal murders committed by Neo-Nazi skinheads.

  • TruthTella

    The exacting truth that white Americans are just as likely to be killed by other whites. According to Justice Department statistics (pdf), 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.

    The truth? As the largest racial group, whites commit the majority of crimes in America in terms of actual numbers. In particular, whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes. With respect to aggravated assault, whites led blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, whites led blacks, again, more than 2-1.

    Given this mathematical truth, would anyone encourage African Americans to begin shooting suspicious white males in their neighborhoods for fear that they’ll be raped, assaulted or murdered? Read the White Crime Blogs to see for yourself: http://www.Wh8te.com.

    • Guest

      I doubt your statistics even filter out hispanics from whites. Even with those inaccurate numbers, 2 to 1 odds on a population that is 5 to 1 means that each individual black person is still much more statistically likely to commit crime. I don’t hate black people like you hate white people but its just true. It sucks but its true.

  • TruthTella

    They butchered the Native Americans, Enslaved The Blacks and Then Built Churches on Stolen Land and proclaimed “In God We Trust.” Sadly, America was built on violence. America’s foundation is violence. America glorifies gangsterism and gangsters like Jesse James, John Gotti, Ma Barker, Bonnie and Clyde, Pretty Boy Floyd, Dutch Shultz, Bugsy Siegel, John Dillenger, Al Capone, Machine Gun Kelly etc, The end result are men like John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, James Holmes and many more. But America degrades Gangsta Rap. That’s hypocritical. Even the Kennedy’s made their fortune from Bootlegging and violence. And some of the other Robber Barons did as well. Please go to http://www.Wh8te.com to read about the thousands of horrific crimes committed by Whites on a daily basis.

  • TruthTella
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  • TruthTella

    Over 10,000 Children are molested by the hands of White men around the world every day. The White man can’t contain his insatiable appetite for little boys. The international spread of Aids has been attributed to American and European business men who travel around the world and pay poor children for sex. The sick and disgusting international child sex rings are fueled by the myriad of American and European pedophile “johns.” Can you say NAMBLA? According to all credible sources 92% of all documented cases of child molestation and incest occurs in the White population – it is an epidemic. On the critically acclaimed reality news program DateLine NBC’s “To catch a Predator” 97 % of the pedophiles caught in the stings are White..Fact! THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PAID OUT OVER $1 BILLION DOLLARS TO SETTLE CHILD MOLESTATION CASES INVOLVING THEIR CATHOLIC PRIESTS..FACT!

  • TruthTella

    According to the Uniform Crime Code of 2010.

    The White on White Crime rate is 93%.

    98% of all serial killers in the last 30 years have been White Males.

    61% of all documented rapes are perpetrated by Whites.

    72% of all Bank robberies are perpetrated by Whites.

    94 % of the Whites murdered in the last 30 years have been murdered by other whites.

    92% of all documented cases of child molestation and incest occurs in the White population.

    77% of all arsons are perpetrated by whites.

    • The_true_sun_tzu

      99% of all statistics are made up.

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        Only when they speak about whites, when they are about other races its ok…..

    • Bob Sten

      Where did you get these “statistics”?

  • TruthTella

    If white men are such great family men, then Why are White women divorcing them at an alarming 67% divorce rate? Why do White men account for 92% of all documented cases of child molestation and incest?, Why do so many White kids take drugs?, Why are so many White children killing their parents to collect the insurance money?, Why are so many White women killing their spouses as is documented on The Oxygen Network’s critically acclaimed show called “Snapped” which chronicles real life situations of white women who snapped and killed their husbands?

    • Bob Sten

      You are a LIAR!!!!!!

      Molestation is committed by blacks in roughly 21% of cases. Yet blacks are less than 15% of the population.

      What this means you uneducated LIAR is that blacks DISPROPORTIONATELY MOLEST.

      44% of molestation cases are committed by whites

      http://americanspcc.org/education/statistics/

      Next time do some actual research on a legitimate website….don’t get your info from the nation of islam.

      Every thing you say from here on out is completely suspect.

      You have proven yourself to be a liar and a fraud.

      Congrats idiot

  • TruthTella

    This is how White American citizens gained their generational wealth in America.These facts cannot be denied no matter how many of them attempt to deny it:[ But it was another racialized New Deal program, the Federal Housing Administration, that helped generate much of the wealth that so many white families enjoy today. These revolutionary programs made it possible for millions of average white Americans – but not others – to own a home for the first time. The government set up a national neighborhood appraisal system, explicitly tying mortgage eligibility to race. Integrated communities were ipso facto deemed a financial risk and made ineligible for home loans, a policy known today as “redlining.” Between 1934 and 1962, the federal government backed $120 billion of home loans. More than 98% went to whites. Of the 350,000 new homes built with federal support in northern California between 1946 and 1960, fewer than 100 went to African Americans.These government programs created the new segregated white suburbs that sprang up around the country after World War II. Government subsidies for municipal services helped develop and enhance these suburbs further, in turn fueling commercial investments. Freeways tied the new suburbs to central business districts, but they often cut through and destroyed the vitality of non-white neighborhoods in the central city].– This is not about who is educated or not or who worked hard or not.This is about how a government created policy and practices that favored one group of citizens over other groups. http://academic.udayton.edu/race/04needs/affirm22.htm

    • Bob Sten

      Truth tella,

      If whites are always stacking the deck to make themselves better off (for starts, I don’t how see this is some “crime”, but anyhow)….

      Then how do you explain this?

      The wealthiest group in america per capita is indians (from india)

      The second wealthiest group in america per capita is jews

      The third wealthiest group in america per capita is asians

      The fourth wealthiest group in america per capita is white gentiles

      Fifth is blacks

      Sixth is hispanics

      So, if whitey is always “conspiring” to be better off (like this is a problem), and “oppressing” anyone that isn’t white and christian, how is it that indians, jews, and east asians are better off than white gentiles financially?

      Esplain that one lucy….

      Come on, give up. Just admit it. You blindly hate whites and scapegoat them for all your problems in life. Admit it!

      Just admit you are a jealous loser and admit that you spend endless hours looking through books trying to find how “ALL” whites are “guilty” because some schmuck 300 years ago did something bad.

      LOOOOOOSER! Get out of the library and go get a real degree like the indians and asians. Then you can finally stop HATING others and start actually enjoying life…and succeed, instead of losing.

  • TruthTella

    The White Man stands guilty as charged!

    Count 1: Invasion of America: Guilty

    Count 2: Killing the American Indians: Guilty

    Count 3: Enslaving Blacks: Guilty

    Count 4: Destroying the Ozone layer: Guilty

    Count 5: The biggest Murderer throughout history: Guilty

    Count 6: The Biggest Rapist throughout history: Guilty

    Count 7: The Greatest Child Molester: Guilty

    • Heidi

      Actually, that isn’t true. If you read more, and stopped watching Jewish TV and movies, you wouldn’t be so brainwashed.

      The Jews killed off the Native Americans by giving them the smallpox infested blankets that were supposed to be destroyed. They then charged the government for blankets, as though they had given new blankets to the Natives. It was a money scam. Google it.

      Jews owned the majority of all slave ships, Jews also disproportionately owned the majority of all black slaves. They have written about it in their own histories. The Nation of Islam has admitted to this fact. Google it.

      For the other ascertains, you should really provide some sort of source, otherwise you just look like an idiot.

      You do realize that the “Moors” who were black, pillaged and raped the Europeans and took them into captivity right? Europeans became dispersed even more do to this. And that the Muslims (whether Arab or Asiatic or black) enslaved Caucasians en masse, raping, killing and pillaging along the way….? Or is it that you only like to focus on supposed crimes of “whites”?
      In European countries, the majority of the “people” were serfs. Do you even know what a “serf” is?

    • Bob Sten

      They don’t use chemicals that harm the ozone in africa?

      Or in china?

      Or in japan?

      Seriously?

      Where is your evidence?

    • robynbuckins

      indeed. TruthTella.. those are the facts. btw Bob Stern is just another stereotypical clueless white man who spreads Cancer of others based on his limited and very very very narrow viewpoint/perspective of others ..

  • TruthTella

    Serial killers in the United States tend to share the following general characteristics:

    1. The majority (97%) are single, white males.

    2. They tend to come from unstable families.

    3. As children, they are typically abandoned by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers.

    4. Their families often have criminal, psychiatric and alcoholic histories.

    5. They were often abused emotionally, physically and/or sexually by a family member.

    6. They have high rates of suicide attempts.

    7. More than 60 percent wet their beds beyond the age of 12.

    9. Many are fascinated with fire starting.

    10. They are involved in sadistic activity or torturing small animals

    • Bob Sten

      Nice try.

      But none of this negates the fact that blacks are less than 15% of the population.

      But

      commit 50% of the murders in the US.

      Nice way to try to cover the truth but…..you are…

      LOSING!

  • TruthTella

    White Republican Predators, pedophiles & sex offenders: For Proof, just Google the name of each of these dirt bags:

    1. White Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.

    2. White Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.

    3. White Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys — ages ten and 12 — during a six-year period.

    4. White Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.

    5. White Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after “sexually explicit” emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.

    6. White Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.

    7. White Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

    8. White Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

    9. White Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

    10. White Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

  • TruthTella

    The suicide rate is higher than the homicide rate: Nearly 1/3 more people die at their own hands than die at other people’s hand(the murder rate in America is about 6 per 100,000; for suicides it’s 10.8) On average, one suicide occurs every 17 minutes. 76% of all suicide deaths are white males. So for every two murders you hear about, three other people killed themselves. One reason that people believe homicide is much more common than suicide is because of the news media’s selective coverage. Fact!

  • TruthTella

    Whites make up just 20% of the population of the world but they have committed 85% of the worst atrocities against humanity through out history. FACT! History proves that 20% of the world’s population, the so called Whites, have committed the most violent, murderous and heinous acts throughout history. This can not be denied or refuted! Whites have even brought the entire world to the brink of destruction with their weapons of mass destruction. Another Fact! From slavery to Genocide, Whites have proven to be the most violent. 20 million whites killed by other whites under Stalin and Nazi Germany was White on White Crime.

  • TruthTella

    Whites make up just 20% of the population of the world but they have committed 85% of the worst atrocities against humanity through out history. FACT! History proves that 20% of the world’s population, the so called Whites, have committed the most violent, murderous and heinous acts throughout history.

    • Guest

      I agree. It is good someone told the truth about these Neanderthal devils but White devils are just 8% worldwide and shrinking. They have recessive genes, remember that. Honestly I will throw a huge party when Whites have banished from the earth forever.

      • Bob Sten

        and you don’t consider yourself racist, do you guest!

        You black hypocrites amaze me/

        • Ignorance is not bliss

          Not black hypocrites, that one person’s view. Thanks for generalizing every black person.

          • Bob Sten

            Ignoranceisnotbliss,

            why don’t you jump on for so called “truthtella” for generalizing whites?

            Hypocritical dope!

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, you are not the bright here are you? Where in my statement did I generalize anyone. In fact, My statement say ” one persons view”. Your mom really need to take away your computer.

          • Bob Sten

            “truthtella” is doing the generalizing, but you don’t criticize him.

            YET, you criticize me for allegedly generalizing. Learn to read. If generalizing is “wrong” in your eyes, why haven’t you criticized “truthtella” at all?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Your comment apply to you as well. FYI, my first comment said “Thanks for generalizing every black person.” You already spoke about generalizing whites but you did not add “you should not generalizes blacks or anyone” in your statement, did you? If you want to be truthful both of you were in the wrong for generalizing…. Your ideas are flawed.

          • Bob Sten

            My ideas are flawed? Like me telling truthtella he is a hateful moron? That’s not flawed, that’s the truth.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            refer back to my statement.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            BOB, you are spoke against generalizing whites and then generalized Blacks. The criticism is accurate. Sorry friend you lost this one.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance is not bliss,

            First of all, you are a hypocrite. You blast me for alleged generalizing, yet you say nothing about anti-white haters generalizing all whites.

            If you actually paid attention, I said “you black hypocrites amaze me”. I was referring to people like “truthtella”, you, jesse jackson, al sharpton, and others that are hypocritical. To call hypocritical blacks hypocrites is valid.

            I didn’t say all blacks are hypocrites, yet truthtella said whites are all basically child molesters, murderers, tribally minded, etc. He generalized, I was specific. Yet you get on me, so you also qualify as the type of hypocrite I was referring to. Capice?

    • Bob Sten

      Mao killed over 20 million.

      Pol Pot killed over 2 million.

      Jewish-lead communists killed 3 to 7 million in russia

      The Maori (Polynesians) killed off entirely other polynesian groups.

      The aztecs slaughtered and cannibalized their indian neighbors.

      The pacific northwest indians enslaved competing tribes.

      Africans held other africans as slaves for hundreds of years.

      Slavery was legal in africa, the middle east, and the far east for hundreds of years, but the white man was the first to make it illegal.

      I’m just curious. How can you blame ALL white people for what let’s say the English did?

      The Scots, Irish, and Welsh were bigger victims of the English than blacks ever were.

      But you are going to blame the germans, swedes, norwegians, italians, swiss, and irish for things that dead english people did hundreds of years ago? How is that supposed to make sense?

      Should I execute you for the current day crimes blacks commit?

      Should I jail you because some black guy raped someone two hundred years ago?

      Oh yeah, only live white people should be “punished” for the things that unrelated dead white people did to other dead people hundreds of years ago. But black people shouldn’t be punished for the things that unrelated LIVE black people do to other people NOW.

      Oh, now that’s logical.

      Imbecile.

  • TruthTella

    The media labels gang bangers as savages as if they’re prone to violence, but all of these White mass killers are labeled as “disturbed..” SMH..Whenever a White person commits a heinous crime, he or she is labeled crazy or “defective” as to imply that it’s not normal for whites to commit crime. White America has to come out of denial as it relates to rampant White on White crime which exists in the form of serial killers, child rapists, mass murderers, etc. Please log on to Wh8te.com to read about the numerous other crimes committed by whites on a daily basis. It’s time to address the issue. And if all of these white mass killers are “crazy,” then perhaps all of the gang bangers are “crazy” as well.

    • Bob Sten

      “Truth Tella”

      How do you explain that blacks, which are 12% of the population, commit a full 50% of the murders in america?

      Please explain.

      If only whites are bad, how can this be?

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        I already disputed this, BOB scroll up

  • Heidi

    Umm. Not true.
    The Jews controlled Russia with Bolshevism and Communism, they had already taken and subverted England (UK) in the 1600’s, the Netherlands after being expelled from Spain in 1492, and France.
    The World Wars in the 1700’s, the 1800’s and the 1900’s, as well as the wars starting in the 21st century (and all the ones before) have been fomented for the benefit of the Jews.
    They have been ethnically cleansing the Middle East with the Western Nations tax dollars. Tax dollars that the population has no say in where it goes because the Jewish money men control almost everything now…. why do you think they want Iran? Why do you think there are only about 5 countries left that haven’t joined the Jewish Central Banking scheme?

    There Talmud says they must destroy the Christians (Europe was the Christian empire), and all of the books of the Christians.
    They believe that once they have Caucasians destroyed they can rule over the “lesser” beings without interference.

    “Germany Must Perish” in which Jews call for the annihilation of the Germanic race, almost all Caucasians (2/3 of USA Whites) have Germanic blood in them.

    Do you even know what the Jews did to the Germans at the end of the war? Some of the most horrific war crimes were committed against them, and for what purpose? Because Germany threw out the Jewish money changers.

    • PAthena

      Thank you, Madam Heidi Hitler, for your ignorant attacks on Jews.

      • Bob Sten

        pathena, you jump on heidi, why don’t you jump on “truthtella” for his attacks?

        You hate white gentiles too?

        Hmmm.

    • Guest

      You are an asshole, White Neanderthal loser!

      • Heidi

        Why? Because I speak the Truth, and you don’t want to hear it? Or is it because you already know it is true, but have sold your soul to the Devil’s children?

        • Bob Sten

          Yes, he hates the fact that he’s an azz with no future and a PHD in black victimology. The degree won’t get him a job, so he blames whitey.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002602883231 Afiq Syamim Salleh

    ” Stop shaming men – if men aren’t getting married – it’s because
    marriage is a disgusting joke. If they aren’t committing to American
    women, it’s because American Woman is NOT WORTH COMMITTING TO.”

    I get the feeling those american women are too busy chasing after european men..

    • tickletik

      There is nothing on earth more humiliating or degrading for a woman than to have to hunt down a man.

      If you are woman, then you already knew this, but it shows a high level of dishonesty. If you are a man, then it shows you are in desperate need to learn game.

      My suggestion in that case is to first pick the book “Day Bang” by Roosh. After that you should consider investing in the Attraction DVD series by Kezia Noble, which will give you tremendous insight and conversational skills. After that, you should get a two month subscription to simplepickup.com, this will flesh out your pickup skills to go both direct, and indirect with the women around you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002602883231 Afiq Syamim Salleh

    “let’s scrap child support entirely”

    Is that really necessary?
    From what I heard most of these guys didn’t even bother to paid child support either..

    • tickletik

      You heard wrong. And yes, it’s very necessary.

      If you want to save the American community that happens to be descended of Africans, then you also have to scrap no-fault divorce, welfare, child support, alimony, and you should probably rescind suffrage.

  • Lynn4444

    Why would left-wng white upper class encourage black thuggery and failure. I sort of think he’s right. But where does that belief come from? Does the left always downplay real black problems? Does Ziggy Zoggy think right-wing or independent white voters with means also try to promote black thuggery?

  • PAthena

    The reason that so many Negro youth are violent is that they grow up without fathers, the effect of welfare policies which penalize families with fathers. Boys who grow up without fathers tend to be violent and girls who grow up without fathers tend to be promiscuous.

  • Guest

    Good, tell the truth about these Neanderthal, uncivilized and barbaric cave people! They need to die off so that the world is a better place.

    • Bob Sten

      You think the world would be better without cars, computers, the internet, jet planes, the MRI, CT scans, the cure for polio, and a hundred other inventions and cures?

      Seriously?

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        There a reason Black history need to be taught in schools….

        “This has led to writers coming up with controversial articles that assume that every invention mentioned in the database would not have been invented if black people did not exist. Other writers have
        produced counterpoint articles that falsely give the impression that black inventors have not achieved great things.” For example, take my article on John Lee Love. Nowhere do I state that John Lee Love invented the very first pencil sharpener, however, the editorial tone is favorable and shows the respect I have for John Lee Love as an inventor. Another website uses a headline for example that reads “Pencil Sharpener – John Lee Love in 1897? No!” Giving an editorial tone that puts the inventor’s achievements in a negative light. However, these were/are real inventors, who received real patents when it was rare and difficult for a person of color to do so. http://inventors.about.com/od/blackinventors/a/black_myths.htm

        African American Patent Holders
        – Black Inventors
        An extensive list of black inventors holding patents listed by name, patent date and invention with history. For more history use the A to Z entries below
        for individual black inventors.

        Colors of Innovation

        Thomas Jennings born in 1791 is believed to have been the first African American inventor to receive a patent for an invention The Origins of Black History
        Month

        What we now call Black History Month originated in 1926, founded by Carter Godwin Woodson as Negro History Week. Your Opinions Matter – Black History Month

        What are contemporary African American scientists and inventors achieving today?

        Black Myths or Black Facts What is the truth about patents.

        Black Inventors Facts and History
        A daily newsletter with facts, tips, biographies, and more concerning black inventors.

        George Edward Alcorn
        Alcorn invented a new type of x-ray spectrometer.

        Nathaniel Alexander
        invented an improved folding chair.

        Virgie Ammons
        Ammons invented a fireplace dampener.

        Benjamin Banneker
        His inventive spirit would lead him to be called the “first African American inventor.” Banneker published a noted Farmers’ Almanac. Janet Emerson Bashen

        Janet Emerson Bashen is an African-American businesswoman and inventor.

        Patricia Bath
        The first African American woman doctor to receive a patent for a medical invention.

        Andrew Jackson Beard
        Beard received a patent for a railroad car coupler and a rotary engine.

        Andrew Jackson Beard – Patents
        The original patent drawings of Andrew Jackson Beard.

        Miriam E. Benjamin
        Benjamin was the second black woman in history to receive a patent. She received a patent for an invention she called ‘a Gong and Signal Chair for Hotels.’

        Henry Blair
        Henry Blair was the second black inventor in history to be issued a patent by the United States Patent Office.

        Bessie Blount
        Blount invented a device to help disabled persons eat.

        Sarah Boone
        An improvement to the ironing board (U.S. Patent #473,653) was invented by African American Sarah Boone on April 26, 1892.

        Otis Boykin
        Boykin invented an improved ‘Electrical Resistor’ used in computers, radios, television sets and a variety of electronic devices.

        Charles Brooks
        C. B. Brooks invented a street sweeper truck for which he was issued a patent on March 17, 1896.

        Phil Brooks

        Black inventor, Phil Brooks patented a disposable syringe.

        Henry Brown
        Henry Brown patented a “receptacle for storing and preserving papers on November 2, 1886″ It was special in that it kept the papers separated.
        Perhaps an early forerunner in filofax history?

        Marie Brown
        Invented a video home surveillance security system.

        Norman K Bucknor
        African American inventor and GM engineer Norman Bucknor is a prolific patent holder

        John Albert Burr
        Patented an improved rotary blade lawn mower.

        George Washington Carver
        Agricultural chemist, George Washington Carver invented three hundred uses for peanuts and hundreds more uses for soybeans, pecans, and sweet potatoes. More than anyone else in history.

        George Washington Carver – Help
        for the Hard Times – Pamphlet

        George Washington Carver wrote the pamphlet Help for the Hard Times

        Benjamin S. Carson
        Benjamin Carson was a pioneer in surgery technology

        Emmett W. Chappelle
        Chappelle was a biochemist, photobiologist, astrochemist and black inventor.

        John Christian
        John Christian invented and patented new lubricants used in high flying aircraft and NASA space missions.

        Donald Cotton
        Donald Cotton invented propellants for nuclear reactors.

        David Crosthwait
        Black inventor, David Crosthwait holds 39 patents for heating systems and temperature regulating devices. He is most well known for creating the heating system for New York City’s famous Radio City Music Hall.

        Mark Dean
        Dean co-invented improvements in computer architecture that allowed IBM compatible PCs to use the same peripheral devices.

        Ronald Demon

        The famous inventor of the Smart Shoe – an athletic shoe whose cushion support automatically adjusts to suit the shape of the wearer’s feet.

        Joseph Hunter Dickinson
        Invented several improvements to different musical instruments.

        Clatonia Joaquin Dorticus
        Invented an improved photographic print wash method.

        Dr. Charles Richard Drew
        Drew was the first person to develop the blood bank.

        Thomas Elkins
        African American inventor Thomas Elkins – view his three U.S. patents.

        Philip Emeagwali
        In 1989, Philip Emeagwali won the Gordon Bell Prize, considered the equivalent of the Nobel Prize, for developing the fastest supercomputer software in the
        world.

        James Forten
        African American James Forten invented a sail hoist.

        Sarah E. Goode
        Sarah Goode was the first African American women to receive a patent (US #322,177), which was issued on July 14, 1885. She invented a type of cabinet
        bed.

        Meredith C. Gourdine
        Gourdine was the black inventor of electrogasdynamics systems.

        George Grant
        An improved tapered golf tee was patented in 1899 by George F. Grant.

        Lloyd Augustus Hall
        Lloyd Hall is responsible for the meat curing products, seasonings, emulsions, bakery products, antioxidants, protein hydrolysates and many other products
        that keep our food fresh and flavorable.

        Augustus Jackson
        Augustus Jackson, a confectioner and businessman from Philadelphia, invented an ice cream recipe in 1832

        Thomas L. Jennings
        Thomas L. Jennings was the first African American to receive a patent (US patent3306x), which was issued on March 3rd, 1821.

        Jack Johnson
        The world’s first African American heavyweight champion patented a wrench (U.S.patent#1,413,121) on April the 18th, 1922.

        Lonnie Johnson
        Johnson invented the Super Soaker® a squirt gun and also invented thermodynamics systems on the side.

        Willis Johnson
        Willis Johnson patented an improved mechanical egg beater on February 5, 1884.

        Frederick Jones
        Jones invented the first automatic refrigeration system for long-haul trucks.

        Marjorie Stewart Joyner
        Joyner invented a permanent wave machine that would allow a hairdo to stay set
        for days.

        Percy Lavon Julian
        Julian synthesized the medicines physostigmine for glaucoma and cortisone used for rheumatoid arthritis and he invented fire-extinguishing equipment.

        Ernest Everett Just
        Dr. Just, an eminent marine biologist, was considered a leader and authority for his work with cell development.

        Roscoe Koontz
        Roscoe Koontz designed a pinhole gamma ray camera and collimator and helped to design and fabricate automatic air and water sampling equipment and radiation activity measuring devices.

        Lewis Howard Latimer
        Latimer invented the water closet for railroad cars, an electric lamp with an inexpensive carbon filament and a threaded wooden socket for light bulbs.

        Lewis Howard Latimer – Patents Belonging To Joseph Lee, Lee patented two machines for the food service industry.

        John Lee Love
        The “Love Sharpener” was designed by African American John Lee Love. Love’s invention is the very simple and portable pencil sharpener that many
        artists use today.

        Jan Ernst Matzeliger
        Black inventor, Jan Matzeliger invented an automatic method for lasting shoes, which made the mass production of affordable shoes possible.

        Elijah McCoy
        Black inventor, Elijah McCoy is best known for having invented the automatic oil cup. During his life, McCoy invented and sold 57 different kinds of devices
        and machine parts, including an ironing board and a lawn sprinkler. His first patent was for a lubricator for steam engines ( US #129,843), which was issued
        on July 12th, 1872.

        Alexander Miles
        Invented an improved elevator.

        Garrett Morgan
        Morgan invented a gas mask, a traffic signal, and several other inventions.

        Lyda Newman
        African American, Lyda Newman patented a new and improved brush.

        Alice Parker
        Alice Parker invented a new and improved gas heating furnace.

        Traverse Benjamin Pinn
        Traverse Benjamin Pinn invented an improved file holder.

        William Purvis
        Invented several inventions including an improved fountain pen.

        Lloyd P Ray
        African American, Lloyd Ray patented a new and useful improvement in dust pans.

        Cordell Reed
        Cordell Reed improved nuclear electric power.

        Louis Roberts
        Black inventor, Louis Roberts’ research interests focused on microwave and optical techniques and components, plasma research, solid state component and circuit development.

        Norbert Rillieux
        Rillieux invented the sugar processing evaporator.

        Walter Sammons
        Invented an improved comb.

        Henry Sampson
        Invented a gamma-electrical cell.

        Jerry Shelby
        NASA engineer Jerry Shelby invented an engine protection system for a recoverable rocket booster.

        Richard Spikes
        Patented or developed many inventions.

        John Standard
        An improved refrigerator design was patented by African American inventor John
        Standard

        Thomas Stewart
        Stewart invented an improved mop, metal bender, and railroad crossing
        indicator.

        Rufus Stokes
        Rufus Stokes invented a exhaust purifier and an air pollution control device.

        Lewis Temple
        The toggle iron harpoon was designed in 1848 by Lewis Temple, an African American blacksmith, this was the standard harpoon in American whaling from the
        mid-19th through the early 20th centuries.

        Valerie Thomas
        Received a patent in 1980 for inventing an illusion transmitter.

        John Henry Thompson
        Invented lingo programming used in Macromedia Director and Shockwave.

        Patrick Usoro
        African American inventor and GM engineer Patrick Usoro is a prolific patent holder

        Madame Walker
        Madame Walker was a St. Louis washerwoman-turned-entrepreneur. Walker invented a method to soften and smooth African American hair in 1905.

        James Edward West
        Black inventor, James West holds 47 U.S. and more than 200 foreign patents on
        microphones and techniques for making polymer foil-electrets.

        John Thomas White
        African American inventor John Thomas White patented a lemon squeezer in 1896.

        Doctor Daniel Hale Williams
        Doctor Daniel Hale Williams was a pioneer in open heart surgery.

        Joseph Winters
        Patented the fire escape ladder.

        Granville Woods
        African American, Granville Woods invented improvements to electric railways,
        air brakes, the telephone and the telegraph. He invented a chicken egg incubator and an apparatus for an amusement park ride.

        Granville Woods – Patents
        Photos of the inventions of Granville Woods.

        Kevin Woolfolk
        Invented the “The Hamster Workout Wheel”, a small animal exercise wheel that records your pet’s mileage or wheel revolutions.

        African American Inventors Of
        Our Times Several black inventors are discussed in this Invention Dimension article.

        African American Women
        Inventors of the Early 20th Century
        Socially significant personal care items invented by African American female inventors are discussed in this Invention Dimension article.

        Five black inventors are profiled in this article: Granville Woods, Lewis Latimer, Elijah McCoy, Garrett Morgan, Frederick Jones, and Jan Ernst Matzeliger.

        George Carruthers
        George Carruthers first major contribution to science was to lead the team that invented the far ultraviolet camera spectrograph used for the Apollo 16 mission
        to the moon.

        Tom Bray
        Inventor Tom Bray’s inventions are used in the passenger rail mass transit industry.

        DeWayne McCulley
        Inventor DeWayne McCulley led the research to create DocuTech software for Xerox, however, it is his research into Diabetes and how his job at Xerox encouraged him that is the amazing story.

        http://inventors.about.com/od/blackinventors/Famous_Black_Inventors.htm

        • Bob Sten

          “An improved tapered golf tee was patented in 1899 by George F. Grant.”

          LOL. This is what I call desperation.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Na, I just go off of the argument. Beside, why would I argue with someone that does not know anything. Your opinions are just BS.

          • Bob Sten

            I love liberals. When caught being silly, they resort to name calling and insults. How playground.

            Way to stay on topic ignoranceisnotbliss. Just admit it. You’re desperate to put black people on a pedestal.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, another generalization :) Didn’t we just have this talk? Second, The truth is the truth, It’s not my fault true accounts of African American history is not taught in schools beyond MLK. I am not out to put anyone on a pedestal. I am looking to decrease ignorance, Like in your first statement.

            “Seriously?

            Exactly what have black people come up with guest?

            Ebonics?

            peanut butter?”

            You are welcome I just taught a Tea Partier something. I have done my good deed for today. FYI you have to open the links to look at them. Oops, that two good deeds.

            Third, it’s not an insult if your statement really is BS. Which your was. Sorry friend, I think you lost this one.

          • Bob Sten

            LOL. Just two minutes ago, I was answering your post condemning me for alleged “generalizing”. Now, you generalize that I am in the tea party because of my views.

            Are you stupid? Talk about rich….

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            It was meant to be funny, seeing the number of time you have generalized people.

          • Bob Sten

            You find your hypocrisy funny? Really? I don’t.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Read what I wrote please, I was talking about you. Hypocrites can’t call someone a hypocrite. Besides, I can prove tea party logic that i stated and the fact that other tea partiers do not speaker out against that ones that love to hate only add to my claims “truth” in my statement. Those views make me believe/truths you are a tea partier.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            There are plenty of democrats that hate whites. Does that mean that all democrats hate white people?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            The Tea Party hates blacks and they also dislike anyone they cant control. Don’t take my word for it. Look at the links. Then explain to me, how their words and acts are not hate, not racist. Dems on the other hand are diverse, they encompass everyone and fight for everyone’s rights. Unlike reps that only look out for the Rich, christians and ……… a certain racial group in society. FYI not in that order LOL.

          • Bob Sten

            Again robyn,

            There are plenty of democrats that despise or hate whites.

            Yet you don’t claim “the democratic party hates whites”.

            Therefore, you generalize, and you are a hypocrite.

            Are there democrats that hate whites? yes

            Are there people in the tea party movement that hate blacks? yes

            Big deal.

            You see the world in black and white. There is apparently no gray for you.

            Everyone (EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL) in the tea party hates blacks and want to lynch them if they get the chance….in your little fairy tale world. You don’t live in reality ignorance. How could you possibly believe in such an absurdity?

            You generalizing and lumping tea party people together is the type of “othering” and “dehumanization” that the left drones on and on about how dangerous it is to do.

            Yet you and far left wingers like yourself are constantly “othering”, dehumanizing, and generalizing those that disagree with you. The duplicity is absolutely stunning.

            I believe that just because blacks look out for their tribal interests doesn’t mean that they “hate” whites.

            I also believe that just because whites (tea party whites too) look out for their tribal interests doesn’t mean they “hate” nonwhites.

            I believe both groups should act in their individual and in their group’s interests. There is nothing wrong with it. It is adaptive.

            You, on the other hand accept and embrace the tribalism of your people, yet slander the tribalism of whites as “hate”.

            That’s weak and hypocritical.

            Don’t expect me to agree with your hypocrisy there. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            I never claim Dems don’t hate whites. There you go making up Tea Party BS. I said Dem stand for everyone. Second, Dems are not the people yelling kill the black people or black people are the only one on government help. Dems are not the one destroying vote right or forcing religion on people. Dem are not the one shouting racist redurich to all of their member.

            2. sure there maybe be some tea party that are not racist, but how would you know, They DO NOT PUBLICLY DENOUNCE THOSE THAT ADD RACISM!!!! silence is acceptance!

            3. No, everyone is not an individual when they represent a group. The Tea Party is a GROUP of LIKE VIEWS. MOBs tend to believe in the same thing. A group brought together HATE hate is a group that is going to hate. I forgot you only like part of history, kind of like most people that worship religion. They only follow the rules they like.

          • Bob Sten

            Oh yes ignorance, every single person that supports the tea party yells “kill the black people”. Every last one of them. Even the black and hispanic members of the tea party yell “kill the black people”. You are delusional.

            Tea party members are trying to take away “everyone’s” right to vote? Since when?

            You are sick ignorance. You “other” everyone that disagrees with you. You smear and say everyone must “condemn” individuals in the tea party otherwise they believe the same. This is slander and is more “othering” nonsense.

            There are both tea party members and democrats that probably believe we didn’t go to the moon….they probably think it was a propaganda conspiracy.

            But that doesn’t mean that all democrats and tea party members believe the same. Even if they did, who cares?

            Who do you think you are, the thought police? You think people are obliged to do your bidding?

            You think that everyone has to call others to task if they disagree with you? Quite full of yourself there, aren’t you?

            You sure act like you are entitled. You act like you are entitled to have people act the way you want, and if they don’t, you feel they should be socially ostracized.

            You have been privileged with this too long. You scream “racism”, and you expect others to react according to your wishes.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            I don’t need to expect anything. I have the proof and as many of in the united states have seen the tea party for what it is.

            You must be blind, How do you type your BS on the computer is you can see?

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You said

            “explain to me, how their words and acts are not hate, not racist. ”

            Some tea party members are tribal….looking after the interests of themselves and other white people.

            How is this any different from the national black caucus?

            Uh, it’s a “racist crime” when white people are tribal, but it’s OK if blacks do it?

            More hypocrisy….

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            BOOO. I destroyed all your views. Please bring something to this argument.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            On second thought, I am done BOB, I have already defect your BS claim of tribalism. I have already proved racism still exists and I have done what i set out to do. Explain social programming with Beats your BS claim any day.

            Have fun Bob, arguing with someone that deleft and redirect commits than statement the same BS even when it have been debunks is stupid. Ignorance is not bliss friend.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You claim tribalism doesn’t exist,

            I claim it does.

            You are in denial. The evidence supporting my position is immense. Go read up on sociobiology. You can learn a lot from those folks.

            Listen, you go ahead and keep being a tribal black wanna be communist pretending the world is something different than it is.

            But don’t try to convince me to ignore reality and live in your fairy tale world of duplicity.

            You are tribal, but you can’t admit it. It must be too painful for you for some reason….

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Once again a meaningless replay. You offer no facts and you can even support your own claims. I don’t need to convince you of anything. You don’t have fact to support your claims.

            Question, what’s the definition of racism BOB?

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Look it up. You’re on the internet.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, I want to know why your definition of racism and your idea of tribalism seems so much alike?

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Let me ask you a question.

            I am mostly white.

            But I know this black guy named Bill. He is a complete jerk. I can’t stand him. He’s arrogant, cocky, rude, and confrontational. He’s not the kind of guy I want to be around.

            Is it so called “racism” for me to have that opinion of bill in your view?

  • Guest

    I believe you. You have a fan in me. Thanks for exposing the wickedness and crimes of the demonic White race. They really are a race of evil vultures.. Never fully trust one.

  • Bob Sten

    You just admitted a glaring fact “truthtella” which completely contradicts the liberal story of whites always victimizing nonwhites. The truth is that the biggest victims of whites in history are….

    wait for it,

    wait for it,

    other whites! Yes, the biggest war in history: world war 2….over 50 million whites killed by, you guessed it, other whites.

    The seconds biggest war in history. Who was killing who? Yes, you guessed it, whites killing whites.

    It totally contradicts liberal mantra that nonwhites are the traditional victims of whites. The biggest victims of whites are other whites.

    Thanks for finally seeing the real truth moron.

    And ps, don’t start with the malarkey that 20 billion african slaves died at sea during the slave trade. Its a load of garbage. Many died on the voyage, this is true. But just as high a percentage of immigrants died on the way over as well. Medical knowledge, sanitation, and diet were all atrocious back then, and tons of whites died. It’s was no “intentional holocaust”. That is just sensationalism and groups (like blacks) looking for an excuse to feel entitled. Look it up.

  • Bob Sten

    You are absolutely correct truthtella, only white republicans molest children.

    Eye roll

  • Huckleberry

    Actually, according to DOJ numbers ( http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/rsorp94.pdf) Blacks account for 20% of child molestation cases and non hispanic whites account for 54% of molestation cases. When you consider that blacks constitute 13% of the population and non hispanic whites constitute 64% of the population, blacks molest children at a much higher rate. I’m no math wizard but I do believe that close to double. So, in terms of percentages when you meet a black guy and a white guy, the black guy is twice as likely to be a child molester.

  • SwordofDurin

    Around blacks, never relax.

  • MorinMoss

    Here’s a somewhat different perspective:

    The U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, states that, from 1980 through 2008,“Most murders were intra-racial.” The statistics show that 84 percent of white victims were killed by whites and 93 percent of black victims were killed by blacks. Source: South Florida Times: Miami , Broward, Palm Beach, Breaking News & Weather at SFLTimes.com

    According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 910,200 of the men and women behind bars last year were black, 777,500 were white and 395,400 were Hispanic.

    In 1997, about 9 percent of the black population in the U.S. was under some form of correctional supervision compared to 2 percent of the white population and over 1 percent of other races.

    Blacks were two times more likely than Hispanics and five times more likely than whites to be in jail.

    But those numbers count only those who were jailed for a crime. In 2003, more than twice as many whites as blacks were arrested and charged with a crime, according to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports.

    Of 9.5 million offenses charged, 6.7 million whites were arrested, compared to 2.5 million blacks.

    The most common crimes were drug abuse violations, resulting in arrest of 770,430 whites and 381,006 blacks.

    Whites were far more likely to be arrested driving under the influence. Of 998,035 total offenses, 877,810 of those arrested where whites.

    Blacks, meanwhile, were more than twice as likely as whites to be arrested for gambling, 5,153 to 1,964.

    And while blacks comprise about 13 percent of the population, they were charged with most of the robberies, 40,993 compared to 33,070 for whites, and nearly as many homicides–4,395 black and 4,454 white.

    Whites outnumbered blacks about 2-1 in arrests for other crimes, including rape (11,766-6,114), aggravated assault (203,076-103,697), burglary (143,889-103,697) and larcey/theft (556,215-233,806.)

    Whites also were most often arrested for motor vehicle theft, arson, other assaults, fraud, embezzlement, dealing in stolen property, vandalism, weapons charges, prostitution, sex offenses, crimes against families and children, liquor laws, drunkenness, disorderly conduct, vagrancy, curfew and loitering, suspicion, as runaways and all other offenses not including traffic.

    Article: Don’t white people kill white people too? White-on-White Crime: It Goes Against the False Media Narrative

    Article: Whites commit more crimes than Blacks the FBI states:
    Whites Commit More Crimes Than Blacks, FBI Says on EthicsDaily.com

    Article: More mass murders are committed by White men:
    The Entitlement Complex of Mass Murdering White Men — LAWSONRY

    And further, to add balance to this story I consider: child abuse, rape, and child molestation and wife abuse a crime. I also consider money laundering, illegal wars in countries – a crime. I consider hijacking a financial system and signing loans that you knew were fraud, a crime. I consider hacking a crime.

    • Bob Sten

      Morin moss, you forgot to add that asians get arrested even less than whites.

      Why is that? Are there “racist” asian cops “oppressing” whites all over america?

  • Black thuggery

    Black thuggery? Invented by blacks because of blacks.

  • benfirthy

    Truthtella man, lets leave emotion out of this, black people are better than white people at certain things and vice versa. Black race originates from Africa where in order to survive certain physical abilities (e.g. running) were needed for hunting, hence it makes sense that black people are physicaly superior to white people in many respects, but when you are hunting and fighting other tribes then things like conscience are a hindrance. White race were in colder climates and had to rely on intelligence so in general have a higher IQ. White people tend to be much more manipulative, black people had to have attitude and tribal bonding in order to survive. Right or wrong its obvious that black tendencies ingrained through countless generations are going to lead to more crime in a modern culture. Its not rocket science, whos to say one is better than the other, just nature.

  • Edward Funn

    LOL. Fact so wrong. Whites commit the most crimes in America. But when it comes to who goes to jail for those crimes, Blacks are 2 times more likely to be jailed for the same crime. check it out on the FBI’s page if you do not believe me. True is, white TV, Media, Radio, and ignorant loud blacks, have made the world afraid of us. Our portrayal on TV is laughable, our music is distorted, and used by corporations to make money. Then they focus on the dumbest amount us, pushing them forward as the staple of the black person. Truth is this whites kill, blacks kill, fish kill. To say that just because one type has more under their belt, this proves that the race in a whole is flawed. Well that is the definition of ignorance. But you all will continue to spew your racist thoughts as facts. Enjoy!

  • alani

    Umm were James Holmes (Mass Murderer Aurora Colorado), Jared Laughner (Mass murderer Arizona, shooter of Gabby Gifford), Adam Lanza (Newtown Connecticut), DZhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev (Boston Marathon Bomber), Timothy McVey (Oklahoma City Bomber), Jeffrey Dahmer (Serial Killer), Ted Bundy (Serial Killer), John Wayne Gacy (Serial Killer), Ted Kyzinski (Una Bomber), any of them African American? I don’t think so! You need to get the Murderers and Rapists out of your own Community. It is so bad that they even have the ID Channel covering the murderous rampages of Whites.

  • Toady

    I also strongly advocate for the male version of the pill. Men need more options to take control of their reproductive rights. I’m not sure I’d go as far as you, but there are inequalities when it comes to the distribution of welfare benefits and child custody that can leave men with the short end of the stick. We do need to start fighting for men’s equality, as strange as it may sound. Part of that however, is recognizing the importance of traditionally female roles. We put so much effort in trying to encourage girls in the maths and sciences and to developing their careers, but how much effort do we place on teaching our boys to be caretakers, to be nurturing, loving and responsible fathers? There is enormous pressure on women to do everything, which is unfair on its side, but on the other hand, it has the equally harmful and unfair effect of shutting men out of the equation, or turning them into little better than money-making machines. Masculinists unite! Liberate the American Male!

    • LeCalabro

      Vasectomy works.

      • RWR4TX

        Yes, but it can be permanent. There is no guarantee of a successful reversal if ones circumstances change and they wish to procreate.

        • LeCalabro

          Who would want a reversal? Louie

          • RWR4TX

            Someone whose circumstances changed.

  • Jahshuewah Villiam

    Is there a link to the source of this information? Not that I dont believe you, I just like to go tothe source and look over data myself. Thank you.

  • Ignorance is not bliss
  • Bystander

    Very good point, it probably has a lot to do with just that.

  • Bystander

    The media is a market place driven more by demand than it’s owners… you see what you see in the media simply because it sells.

  • Bystander

    This is crazy. Enough.

  • robynbuckins

    try this: .The fact of the matter is that Black on Black crime violence stems from hopelessness born out of 500 years of unabated legal discrimination. The idea that African Americans are prone to violence has a long pedigree, from antebellum fears of slave revolts, to the 1890s, when white supremacist scholars took crime statistics and twisted them into “proof” of inherent black criminality. Hopelessness is at the root of the violence plaguing poor, black neighborhoods. Poverty, family dysfunction and cultural decay contribute to the feeling of hopelessness pervasive throughout black inner-city communities.

    The concept of a group of people resorting to violence when left with no recourse against injustice should not be foreign to anyone with an elementary understanding of American history. Taxation without representation caused American heroes to turn violent against their former countrymen.

    Had George Washington, Sam Adams and Ethan Allen been subjected to the mind-altering, self-esteem-destroying degradation of enslavement, there’s a damn good chance they would’ve turned on each other rather than their colonizers.

    The uniqueness of the black American experience and the side effects of that experience are not difficult to relate to, convey or understand. It’s just that most people like you who are far too ignorant and simple-minded to go beyond what appears to be a political agenda that support the continued demoralization of poor black people.

    also From the time they are young, Black males in America’s ghettos live under the perception that they are a problem, lazy, irresponsible, and a threat to society that has to be managed and controlled. As adolescence, they are suspended from school at a higher rate than any other group, enrolled in special education classes and locked up in juvenile facilities at a higher rate than any other group. Because of this systematic discrimination they face in early childhood, by the time they grow into adulthood, they have developed a mistrust of their environment and sense of unworthiness. Of course, there are exceptions to this depressing pattern, but to an alarming degree inner-city Black males have been transformed from potential asset to active threat.

    Living in poverty, fractured families, high youth and adult unemployment, along with the stigma of inferiority, has a lasting effect on an individual’s behavioral and mental health. All of these forces work together to marginalize, dehumanize, or otherwise devalue the Black masses. Over time, when a group of people have been targeted and discriminated against, they will often internalize the negative images that society communicates about them. They are made to feel invisible and powerless when it comes to the injustices in this world

    Hopelessness. Sick hearts. Men stripped of their humanity.

    This is what is at the foundation of black-on-black violence — a relentless, never-ending string of political and legal policies designed to demoralize the poor black masses.

    • Nick Juvonen

      I see that you copied and pasted this. Nice.

    • Bob Sten

      So whites only discriminate against blacks and hispanics and not asians?

      Why don’t whites “oppress asians” robyn?

      Asians make more money than whites in america….clearly they are succeeding regardless of race. Why can’t blacks?

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        Social Programming

        • Bob Sten

          “Social programming”? What kind of doublespeak is that?

          So why aren’t asians “socially programmed to be the same as blacks?

          Who is socially programming blacks? Themselves? Aliens?

          There are plenty of white people that are homeless in my neighborhood in Long Beach. Were these poor whites also “socially programmed”? Who do you think does all this “social programming”, and what is their conspiratorial agenda?

          Am I also a social programmer? Are you too?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Social programmed, Bob and yes you are. I can explain social programming but I don’t think you and I would be able to have an intelligent argument about it.

          • Bob Sten

            Just explain who does the social programming, what is their agenda, and who are the targets of social programming in your mind.

            For those groups that aren’t “socially programmed”, please explain why those groups are not socially programmed.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Social programming does not work that way Bob. Everyone is socially programmed it starts from birth. Church, schooling, peers, family, TV, media. People are preconditioned to like and hate certain things. For example, Blonde hair, blue eyed women, For decades through TV, radio, magazines, “Media”. People have programmed to believe this is the prototype for beauty within women. If you look at almost any News station,or TV show. You always see certain demographics. One of them is that skinny blond haired blue eyed girl. However, time are changing and other women are finally get some spot light.

            The same goes for Racial profiling of blacks,and ” The blacks are the only criminals in the US, idea”. Do me a favor, Google for white on black crime. You will not see one sites dedicated to showing of crimes of white against blacks. However, I have seen three different sites that only showcase black on white crime. Why is that? We know these crimes happen. We know whites commit more crime than any other race.

            Social programming is deeper then those example. Social programming has been programming people for decides. To include you and myself, Social programming tells people, “who is more educated, who should makes more money, which races are looked at as criminals despite the actual data. Social programming is what people think when they look at a box of cereal at the supermarket VS bag cereal. Or how they view a White, Black, Asian men and women. How people view sex or sexual status. It’s how society views a person or a group of people.

            Social programming is dangerous because those views are carried over into every social system we know. I.E. courts, Religion, Politics, prison, etc. Those views teach people to hate, love, fear, or to kill because it is socially acceptable or at least believe to be. The proof is in the act people commit.

            Yes, there are exceptions. Those that live in diverse community and actually have diverse social circles, their views are altered.Verses those that live in one race communities.

            Social programming is used several ways, some good some bad, most just perpetuate stereotypes to provide a market to sell too. There is no “one” group targeted. Fat VS skinny, Men women, blacks white, music, dancers ETC.

            I can explain it better but like I said, I don’t think you and i would have a good discussion about it. In fact, I don’t think you are actually going to read what I have written. I think you are just going to skim through looking for “I dislike Caucasian statement”. Furthermore, from reading your comments, I really think you are not able to see beyond yourself or complexion.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Social Programming

            In our country standard are different because of social
            programming which affect a lot of social and governmental systems. People try to make this statement about but a word, but it’s about more. It’s about how Black peoples were and are viewed. It 2014 and we still have the same issues of yesterday. If Look at the FBI stats there are more white people committing
            crimes, yet, more minorities are profiled and stop and frisked. Why is that? Second throughout history in our country, blacks are more like to get longer sentences or more likely to be view as a criminal than whites. How can you have the right to a fare trial with this being the case? The societal view of African Americans being criminals is not among only whites, but blacks as well.
            Social programming is to blame.

            Let start with Movies, films, and all media though out
            history, especially in early films. Black were only cast as Criminals, Rapist, ETC. Mass Media helped set the tone for blacks being known as criminals. . I am not going to go in to the Jim Crow laws and those that still
            believe them. *cough *Tea Party* which also had a strong influence on how African Americans are viewed. Everyday people hold basis programmed to in them about black and other races. Racial profiling is a part of that no matter where you go. To prove my point check out “What Would You Do” WWYD 1203 girlfriend buys positive pregnancy test, or “what would you do 914″ in fact there are a lot of cases on that show the pertain to social programming and views on race. You can see
            people reactions first hand. .One of them is with a White man, Black kid, and a white women pretending as if they were stealing a bike. .while Jogger running by they would help the women steal the bike, they did not pay attention to the man, but they gather around and called the cops on the black kid. Same thing happen with skit about a car thief and interracial marriage,

            Next Education, I have already explain a small part of
            social programming and it effect on today, which is dying along with the Tea Party. Race is very much a fact in many of our school systems. High schools do
            not teach anything beyond MLK. Children of all races do not learn about African American history or the accomplishment of African Americans that helped further
            the United Stated. I want to a finger at FOX’s Megan “Santa can’t be black”. Anyway, to shorten this statement, without a true account for OUR
            past how can we move forward and destroy Stereotypes and bias.

            Let’s look at fashion & beauty, do me a favor look up
            the Clark doll experiment. Social programming over the decades has made black children identify color of their skin as bad, not beautiful or wrong. Image what the other races believe? In the same token, look at Models on TV movies, magazine, in mainstream media, you do not often see minorities, except for by one or two per sitcom. Minority models have a very hard time finding jobs. If
            African Americans do not conform to a small part of society’s views, they are label thugs unlike our counter parts

            How about prison & police, there are a lot wrongfully
            convicted African Americans in prison today, just to make a quote. Look up the show “Vindicated”, How about the guy that was let out of prison after serving a 30-year sentence when a confession was beaten out of him. There are so many documented cases. Then you have to look at African Americans that receive long and harsher sentences than whites? What about stop and first and racial profiling “the 17 year old kid who blew the lid off racial profiling”. how about the judge that
            gave rich white a kid probation for killing 4 people but the African American kid playing with his baby sister, wrestling and accidentally kills her get 10 years from the same judge. I do agree, money helps however, that still does not account for the whites that do not have Millions and do not receive the same sentences as blacks. There is a lot more to the issues than money or you are
            telling me that every white person in the United States is rich? Look at the 2011, 2012, and coming soon 2013 FBI statistics. Look also by state. Either way more whites commit more crime. Also, racial profiling accounts for more arrest of black men and women who may have
            not commit a crime. Which could lead to false statistics, right? Not to mention plea bargains then there is the lack of arrest vs. whites. Look the whole numbers. You are more likely to be killed, or raped by a white person than a black person depending what state you in. Also, black crime is more confined. Yet, a lot of people run around yelling black people violent crimes but never explain their definition of a violent crime. Then there’s the Per Cap thing. Just because you think they whole number are wrong, or do not represent you current belief you use per cap. Look, Whole numbers are whole numbers, just because you use Per Cap does not mean less people were killed, raped or murdered.

            What about church and religion. I guess it is true, as
            long as you add “GOD” to the end of a hateful statement, it is ok. A
            question come to mind, is this freedom of speech or is it freedom to voice
            hate? Let’s not forget he has also spoke about race too.

            I guess some better questions are, if these hateful
            speeches and comments excite extremist to beat, kill, or hurt others, do to their content. Is this still the “freedom of speech or freedom to hate”? Could he be charge with a hate crime if his words had influenced a hate crime and the people that committed the crime justified their actions by his words? (He is giving views to people, his audience.) To be fair, there is no shortage of hateful wrongs being tied to “GOD” look at Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Dan Savage’s, “telling people to get gun to protect themselves from black people”, Magyan Kelly and so many more. In fact, you can research them all. What I feel it is wrong is when people seeing the public backlash and then submit a false apology, nothing is ever fixed. Are they all freedom of speech too or freedom to hate? Does anyone ever wonder how this campaign of hate plays into social programming and influences our governmental, local and civil systems and have been for a long time?

            I wonder if America would have a meltdown, If Americans
            from other races, genders, religions, backgrounds, ETC, did the same as these
            people. Wouldn’t they be justified and all they would have to do is put “GOD” at the end of their comments, right? Or is the freedom to hate a right wing only, freedom?

            History repeats itself. First, you hate people by
            religion, then by race, now by sexual status, and their belief in Santa Claus and how he should appear. . . I guess Christianities accept all policy has
            changed…… Or has it always been segregated? I wonder if it includes a Tea party only clause.

            I have so much more, but I do not want to write more than I need to get my point across. Basically, all these issues and more combine = social Programming. Those views impact society and all its functions, the
            justice systems, ETC. I do agree, money helps however, that still does not account for the whites that do not have Millions and do not receive the same sentences as blacks. Hate, racism is not about slave anymore it’s
            institutionalized.

            Table 43 http://www.fbi.gov

            2012 stats are as followed

            Total: white 6,502,919
            black 2,640,067

            Murder and non-negligent
            manslaughter W4,101 B4,203

            Forcible rape W9,027
            B4,512

            Aggravated assault
            W188,505 B102,371

            Arson ” Violent
            crime” W236,394 B155,088

            http://www.fbi.gov/…/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

            http://www.fbi.gov/…/crime-in-the-u.s…/tables/table-43

            http://www.nydailynews.com/…/percentage-non-hispanic…

            http://usnews.nbcnews.com/…/18934111-census-white…

            http://www.yourblackworld.net/…/white-people-make-up…/

            http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/29/discussion-white-white-violence.html

            2011

            Aggravated assault white 194,981 Black 102,597

            Arson “violet white 243,928 Black 157,384

            Sex offenses (except forcible rape and
            prostitution) W38,422 B 13,189

            Murder and no negligent manslaughter W 4,000 B 4,149

            Notice is did not add the other offence because I need to
            know your definition of violent crimes. Second, if we go by states white’s crime is more wide spread. Whites commit more crimes no matter how you spin it.

            Why is There no Discussion of White on White
            Violence?

            http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-hate-crimes-most-likely-against-blacks-jews-gay-men/

            http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/september/latest-crime-stats-released/latest-crime-stats-released
            Latest Crime Stats Released Violent Crime
            Up, Property Crime Down

            http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/story-index/civil-rights Civil Rights

            http://www.fbi.gov/sandiego/press-releases/2013/fbi-releases-2012-hate-crime-statistics FBI Releases 2012 Hate Crime Statistics

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            disque will probably delete this one to

      • robynbuckins

        Actually whites do by labeling them as “model minorities” which third generation Asians hate.. it means that they don’t have a voice.. that they are obedient and accepted because the white majority approves them.. hahahaha… additionally you should study history in more depth… Europeans banned Asians from this country and were not allowed back into the late 60’s (my dates might be off a little) ….. TRY AGAIN.

      • robynbuckins

        They do.. by labeling them “model minorities” which third generation Asians hate because it means that they are obedient… don’t have a voice and that the dominant majority approves of them.. HAVEN’T YOU HEARD.. DUH.. … also if my history is correct.. Europeans kept Asians (Chinese) out of this country for over 60 years until the 60’s (timeline might be off)… also you should educate yourself on the history of Bruce Lee and the abuse he encountered from Europeans in this country… TRY AGAIN

        • robynbuckins

          also when we talk about over 400 years of legalized discrimination we talk about whites oppressing blacks… you should really learn more about Categories of Differences and how they are constructed and maintained by Europeans

          • robynbuckins

            educate yourself on how the impact of the structural factors are constructed and maintain inequality.. Here are few examples..

            1. Discrimination and stereotypes of African Americans (2) Mexican immigrants never viewed as having the right to belong in the US (3) Equating Muslims with terrorists in the post 9/11 US, disrupting the lives and livelihoods of people seeking refuge from their war-torn home countries…AND THERE ARE MANY MORE

          • robynbuckins

            perhaps you should take a basic Sociology 101 course to learn these things as oppose to responding based on your limited knowledge of others other than your OBVIOUS stereotypes…. not to mention the arrogance of how you among others totally absolve whites of their role in the oppression of others.. WAIT you don’t realize it because after all the culture of whites is the RIGHT WAY of doing things and is the basis of how all other groups’ culture is measured…

          • Bob Sten

            Robyn,

            I am curious. When slavery WAS legal (around 150 years ago), what percentage of whites do you think owned slaves?

            Please provide a straight answer. I know you hate white people and are prone to rambling and grandstanding, but please stay on topic with this one…

          • Bob Sten

            Sorry robyn, but I’ve taken enough sociology (aka, hate whitey and praise all so called minorities) courses in the past to know that they are full of double standards, selective reporting, historical revisionism, and thinly veiled communist tendencies.

            I look forward to the day when far left wing college professors teaching this nonsense are seen for the frauds that they truly are.

          • Bob Sten

            Robyn,

            The left wing media blitz constantly insinuating that blacks and hispanics are “victims” is what leads to hopelessness and despair among many. No wonder so many young blacks hate all whites and want to victimize them (ie knockout “game”, etc).

            Many black people have become mentally ill with hatred against whites because of all of this propaganda. They aren’t shown the truth: which is that many non-whites in this country succeed more than whites. Indians make more money than whites, and so do Asians.

            If blacks and hispanics emulated these groups instead of blaming whitey for all of their failures in life, they would have more hope, and much better economic prospects.

            Effeminate white liberals, and nonwhite liberals do blacks and hispanics an injustice by perpetuating the myth of failure caused by “whitey”.

            It is also no different than the blood libel of old that was directed at jews: jews cause all of your problems. Now it’s whitey causes all of your problems in the infected mind….

          • Bob Sten

            Robyn,

            Left wingers ALWAYS COMPARE WHITES TO HISPANICS AND BLACKS ONLY. THEY NEVER COMPARE ASIANS, WHITE GENTILES, JEWS, HISPANICS, BLACKS, AND INDIANS (FROM INDIA).

            Why? Well, I’ll tell you. It’s because by race/ethnic group, here is the hierarchy of who makes the most in america:

            1. Indians

            2. jews

            3. Asians

            4. white gentiles (non-jews)

            5. blacks

            6. hispanics

            So there you have it robyn, the truth is that white gentiles are FOURTH in terms of making money in america. So stop your whining and distortions, and your envy of asians and indians. You have a racial agenda, but want to hide it through selective reporting and telling only half the story.

          • Bob Sten

            Robyn,

            Racism doesn’t exist, but races do. Tribalism is a more appropriate word….individuals tend to promote, defend, and support those that are most like them. This happens everywhere around the world and is the norm, not the exception. You can cry “racism” all you want, but it is a playground term used by those that want to silence dissent.

            Tribalism is a more accurate and descriptive term. For example, the brits don’t like the irish. That isn’t racism, it’s tribalism. The indians don’t like the pakistanis, that is tribalism, not racism. The chinese don’t like the japanese, that is tribalism, not racism. Mexicans in southern ca don’t like blacks. That’s tribalism, not racism. The term racism is hollow, overused, abused, and ridiculous. Tribalism much more accurately describes racial, religious, and ethnic bias.

            Blacks, mexicans, jews, arabs, japanese, chinese, pakistanis, indians, all groups have this bias towards their own group. This is not a crime, it is biologically adaptive. Those groups that don’t favor their own eventually die out and those that do favor their own survive. The only groups of humans that weren’t tribal in the past are now…..extinct. Only us tribal ones survived.

            Are you telling me that whites favoring their own is wrong, but blacks favoring their own is OK? You know what that makes you don’t you?

        • Bob Sten

          No, you are wrong when you say “which third generation asians hate because it means that they are obedient.”

          Asians generally don’t “hate” like many hispanics and blacks in america. Asians are busy succeeding…..being more financially successful than whites. The same with indians. Indians also make more than whites in the US.

          Asians and indians are busy enjoying the opportunities they have in this country and work hard to succeed. You, and many black and hispanic people like you, prefer to blame all of your failures in life on whitey. It is easier to scream at the dark than to light a candle for you and your ilk.

          The same happens elsewhere. In guyana, there were black slaves. When slaves eventually got their freedom there (remember, although slavery existed everywhere around the world, whites were the first to outlaw it), they refused to do work that was “beneath them” working for low wages. So, the plantation owners brought in workers from india since the blacks refused to work. Over time, the indians became successful, educated, and bypassed blacks there on pretty much every measure of success.

          Blacks response now in guyana? They now claim that they are discriminated against by the indians,and that is why they are poor.

          Sound like a familiar story??????

          • robynbuckins

            Bob.. I live in San Francisco…. a city with one of the largest Asian populations.. third generation Asians do not like being called the “model minority”… third generation Asians are more Americanized and are often in conflict with first generation Asians about sustaining their culture and viewpoints.. Once again you base WHAT YOU THINK YOU know on your inherent racism and stereotypes… let me provide you with a few links to get you started on actually learning about people that don’t look like you.. LOL

          • robynbuckins

            from the link

            Even today, white America continues to use the Asian American “success story” to counter or deflect the charges of systemic racism often leveled by black activists. In my .

            government class this semester, a white student pointed insinuatingly to Japanese Americans as a group that, though historically oppressed, had managed to become successful without the help of affirmative action. Both blacks and Asian Americans often find themselves flustered on this point, reacting defensively or offensively, but rarely, , grasping the whole proportions of the problem.http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~yisei/issues/spring_92/ys92_20.html

          • robynbuckins

            http://www.asian-nation.org/model-minority.shtml

            They point to statistics like this and say how well Asian Americans are doing in society and that we’ve overcome past instances of prejudice and discrimination without resorting to political or violent confrontations with Whites. Further, our success should serve as an example for other racial/ethnic minority groups to follow in their own quest to overcome barriers in their way to achieving the American dream.

            Many people go even further and argue that since Asian Americans are doing so well, we no longer experience any discrimination and that Asian Americans no longer need public services such as bilingual education, government documents in multiple languages, and welfare. Further, using the first stereotype of Asian Americans, many just assume that all Asian Americans are successful and that none of us are struggling.

            On the surface, it may sound rather benign and even flattering to be described in those terms. However, we need to take a much closer look at these numbers. As we will see, many other statistics show that Asian Americans are still the targets of racial inequality and institutional discrimination and that the model minority image is a myth.

          • robynbuckins

            Go learn something about people …. you know actually talk to them… sit in a classroom with them.. go to their neighborhoods as oppose to promoting stereotypes based on what YOU THINK YOU KNOW…BTW if racism didn’t exist then there would be no category that labels people as “minorities”… and wouldn’t provide responses that compare one group to another.. oooweee.. ..

          • robynbuckins

            one last thing…. as I stated before when you arrive at a conclusion based off a false premise.. you should rethink your premise otherwise you might end up believing the world is flat.. HAHAHAHAHAHA

          • Bob Sten

            Come on, admit it. You’re 12 aren’t you?

            No, seriously. How old are you?

          • Bob Sten

            Is that supposed to be deep? Well, it isn’t.

          • Bob Sten

            robyn,

            Most of your post made no sense.

            YES, racism does not exist.

            Tribalism does. They put categories on all kinds of government forms BECAUSE OF TRIBALISM!

            Groups say “we want more benefits, hand outs, set asides, etc., for OUR TRIBE”. The politicians want the votes, so they concede.

            This is yet another example of two things: tribalism, as I just stated, and the power that so called minority groups have.

            These checkboxes on government forms are designed so that underperforming so called minorities are given more. If whitey was all powerful, and didn’t do anything to help so called minorities, these checkboxes wouldn’t exist. White people would simply ignore underperforming so called minorities. They certainly wouldn’t go out of their way to count them statistically and then dole out more benefits and services to them.

            Open your eyes robyn. Wake up. There is the university far left wing fairy tale world, and then there is reality.

            Please don’t tell me you are getting a degree in sociology or ethnic studies. If you do, you won’t get lots of job offers….and then you’ll eventually blame whitey for it!

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Bob, remember when i said your arguments were flawed. You proved me right once again. If “racism does not exist”, why is it since 2009 when the Tea Party was made they have used racism to push there points? Why is it that you can go to almost every republican web site and see more racism then on any other political site. Your tribeism sounds good but it flawed and does not replace racism.

          • Bob Sten

            robyn,

            I don’t need to learn about people in a class room. I don’t need a left wing professor to do all my thinking for me.

            I talk to all kinds of people about race and ethnicity. Most of the black people I talk with about race see my point. They agree with me. Same with mexicans.

            They see that all groups are tribal and look out for their own. There is nothing wrong with that.

            It’s just that since the hippie days in the 1960’s in the west, this cult has developed that says that all tribalism of non-whites is good and admirable, but the tribalism of whites is so called “racism” and “wrong”. I disagree. I say if groups aren’t tribal, they get wiped out by groups that are tribal. I say what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

            If all people should be treated the same, then let’s condemn all groups for tribalism, OR condemn NO groups for tribalism. Let’s be consistent from now on.

            Can’t you at least agree to that robyn? Don’t you think that is fair?

          • Bob Sten

            Nice cut and paste job robyn, but try thinking for yourself for once.

            There are more poor whites than any other group in the US. FACT! White people aren’t all rich shot callers the way you imply. Kind of throws your “all whites are rich oppressors of people of color” slur for a loop.

            I don’t get where you get off thinking that all whites have some kind of power. My grandfather was a migrant farm worker in the midwest and never had much. My mom’s side immigrated here and were blue collar workers their whole lives.

            You somehow think they “oppressed” you? You think they “owe you” something? Why? Because of something that dead people did to other dead people 150 to 200 years ago?

            All your whining is about one thing: privilege. You are trying to privilege yourself above whites. You are trying to say whites owe you and your tribe for this or that. It’s pretty blatant, and pretty self serving. I guess if I didn’t want to work hard and I wanted to blame others for all my failings I might do the same.

            Do you believe in collective guilt robyn?

          • Bob Sten

            Robyn,

            Grow up. Stop blaming all of your problems on white people. You are sooooo obsessed with race, it’s unbelievable.

            You clearly blame everything wrong any black person does on whites. What an easy out. Scapegoat others for all your problems. Children do this. I expect more from one who professes to be an adult.

            Again, if so called “racism” (really tribalism that all groups practice) is the reason for black failure (as a community), how do you explain the success of indians and asians?

            Facts are facts. I don’t care about Sally, your asian friend in Sociology 345, I care about what the numbers say. And they say that indians and asians are more successful than whites and blacks and hispanics in this country. You can try to shift the goal posts all day long, but it’s the truth.

            Additionally, why are blacks better off than hispanics in this country as a whole? Is it because hispanics are “more oppressed” than black people? Explain that one. And don’t ask your left wing loon professor, or crack open your Sociology 299 book either to give me an answer.

          • Bob Sten

            Robyn,

            You arrogant woman. You think you know me? My wife is from Vietnam. Grow up! Stop blaming whites for everything wrong in this world.

            People are tribal, deal with it.

  • grant

    blame the left! blame the jews! rabblerabblerabble
    you guys aren’t solving any problems by pointing fingers everywhere

    • Bob Sten

      Blame the tea party. Blame whites. Blame republicans. Blame conservatives. Blame the successful. Rabblerabblerabblerabble

      Like that solves any problems?

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        Tea party and those like them are were many of these issues stem from. Bob what’s the current demographic makeup of the tea party, the Age group and the type of party? I am pretty sure everyone is talking about the same subject and not just pointing finger. Putting blame were blame is do. No whites but those white that choose to aid racism and hate.

  • whosnext

    When White on White crime takes place it’s never talked about the way it is when Blacks commit crimes.

    In the United States, a White person is almost six times more likely to be killed by another White person than by a Black person, according to FBI homicide data. In 2011, there were more cases of Whites killing Whites than there were Blacks killing Blacks. However, the mainstream media obsesses over Black on Black violence and rarely mentions the problem of White on White violence.

    These statistics have not led to a media outcry about the problem of White on White crime or the unique pathology of the White community. Nor has the White community stood up to demand change in their community like the Black community does when trying to tackle instances of Black on Black crime.

    Most White people don’t kill White people. Yet media pundits, from Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly to CNN’s Don Lemon, have no problem using the phrase “Black on Black violence” despite the fact that most Black people don’t kill Black people.

    When the news talks about gang-related deaths, they treat it as an almost exclusively Black problem. However, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, for the period of 1980 to 2008, a majority (53.3 percent) of gang homicides were committed by White offenders, and the majority of gang homicide victims (56.5 percent) were White.

    When was the last time you’ve seen on the news, discussions about a White-gang problem?

    Crimes committed by White people are explained as deviations of the individual but have nothing to do with race, but crimes committed by Blacks or Latino’s are somehow attributed to race. Gang-bangers from South Chicago have somehow become a symbol that Black men are to be feared, but you don’t get the same fear that one could attach to the brutal murders committed by Neo-Nazi skinheads.

    According to statistics from the Justice Department, White men are more likely to kill than any other racial group. When it comes to how and why people kill, Black men do, in fact, outnumber Whites in gun-related homicides, but especially drug-related offenses. However, White men top the list in most all other categories.

    When the Bureau of Justice Statistics collected homicidal rates from 1980 to 2008, they found that compared to Blacks, Whites were more likely to kill children, the elderly, family members, and their significant others. They commit more sex-related crimes, gang related crimes, and are more likely to kill at their places of employment.

    So why does America still perpetuate the lie of Black criminality?

    Is it because one in 15 Black men are in prison? That may not explain it. The racial biases in the War on Drugs contribute to the high incarceration rates. Studies show that Blacks are no more likely than Whites to use or sell drugs. Blacks actually only make up 14 percent of regular drug users. Yet Blacks are more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and receive longer sentences than Whites.

    Should we blame gangster rap with the gun-toting rappers? If so, why can’t we blame a White man with a pistol being used to symbolize Second Amendment rights?

  • NE-PNW VoorTrekker

    Well-put.

  • SarahM

    The black community needs to get it together and let go of the poor me bullshit. I’m pretty sick of the race card being pulled for every debate. This generation, at least the white portion, was raised to be racially blind. Yet every time I turn on the news or go out into public I witness some form of a black person complaining that they are treated wrongly because of their race. The black race needs to let their color barrier they feel so safe hiding behind go and separate themselves from the thug life they glorify so much. What happened the the American dream? Work hard and take control of your own life. It’s always possible. They need to take responsibility and do something about it. Stop glorifying crime and looking up to those who alone their way through the streets and do something for yourselves that doesn’t involve shootings violence and drugs. Give your children something to look up to. Maybe the next generation will get it right.

  • SarahM

    I really like that last paragraph

  • Dan Crabtree

    I keep data every year on each murder commited in my capitol city…2013 murders were as follows 143 murders in the city from jan i to dec 30th..we have five murders so far in 2014…of these… blacks robbed and killed twelve white people in the commision of a felony armed robbery.and home invasions… with one police officer killed by a black armed thug holding his girlfriend hostage….White people killed no black people other than police officers shot three in armed violent shootouts…Oh five other whites were murdered by whites as well boyfriend… live in.. what-ever…all the rest of the murders in my hometown in 2013 were commited by blacks on blacks violence……

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      If you actually look at the FBI reports more whites commit more crimes than blacks. So that “Blacks are only crimes argument does not fly”

  • Terry Jones

    From the FBI: Black males ages 14 to 35, commit almost 70% of all violent crime, and 90% of murders in the US, while they comprise less than 4% of the actual population.
    It’s, “Time to take America back from the animals.”

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      1.How about prison & police, there are a lot wrongfully convicted African Americans in prison today, just to make a quote. Look up the show “Vindicated”, How about the guy that was let out of prison after serving a 30-year sentence when a confession was beaten out of him. There are so many documented cases. Then you have to look at African Americans that receive long and harsher sentences than whites? What about stop and first and racial profiling “the 17 year old kid who blew the lid off racial profiling”. how about the judge that gave rich white a kid probation for killing 4 people but the African American kid playing with his baby sister, wrestling and accidentally kills her get 10 years from the same judge. I do agree, money helps however, that still does not account for the whites that do not have Millions and do not receive the same sentences as blacks. There is a lot more to the issues than money or you are telling me that every white person in the United States is rich? Look at the 2011, 2012, and coming soon 2013 FBI statistics. Look also by state. Either way more whites commit more crime. Also, racial profiling accounts for more arrest of black men and women who may have not commit a crime. Which could lead to false statistics, right? Not to mention plea bargains then there is the lack of arrest vs. whites. Look the whole numbers. You are more likely to be killed, or raped by a white person than a black person depending what state you in. Also, black crime is more confined. Yet,

      a lot of people run around yelling black people violent crimes but never
      explain their definition of a violent crime. Then there’s the Per Cap thing. Just because you think they whole number are wrong, or do not represent you current belief you use per cap. Look, Whole numbers are whole numbers, just because you use Per Cap does not mean less people were killed, raped or murdered. Table 43
      2012 stats are as followed
      Total: white 6,502,919
      black 2,640,067
      Murder and non-negligent
      manslaughter W4,101 B4,203
      Forcible rape W9,027
      B4,512
      Aggravated assault
      Wh188,505 Bk102,371
      Arson ” Violent
      crime” W236,394 B155,088

      2011
      Aggravated assault white 194,981 Black 102,597
      Arson “violet white 243,928 Black 157,384
      Sex offenses (except forcible rape and
      prostitution) Wh38,422 Bl 13,189
      Murder and no negligent manslaughter W 4,000 B 4,149
      Notice is did not add the other offence because I need to know your definition of violent crimes. Second, if we go by states white’s crime is more wide spread. Whites commit more crimes no matter how you spin it. Get your information correct please.

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      How about prison & police, there are a lot wrongfully convicted African Americans in prison today, just to make a quote. Look up the
      show “Vindicated”, How about the guy that was let out of prison after
      serving a 30-year sentence when a confession was beaten out of him. There are so many documented cases. Then you have to look at African Americans that receive long and harsher sentences than whites? What about stop and first and racial profiling “the 17 year
      old kid who blew the lid off racial profiling”. how about the judge that
      gave rich white a kid probation for killing 4 people but the African American kid playing with his baby sister, wrestling and accidentally kills her get 10 years from the same judge. I do agree, money helps however, that still does not account for the whites that do not have Millions and do not receive the same sentences as blacks. There is a lot more to the issues than money or you are telling me that every white person in the United States is rich? Look at the 2011, 2012, and coming soon 2013 FBI statistics. Look also by state. Either way more whites commit more crime. Also, racial profiling accounts for more arrest of black men and women who may have not commit a crime. Which could lead to false statistics, right? Not to mention plea bargains then there is the lack of arrest vs. whites. Look the whole numbers. You are more likely to be killed, or raped by a white person than a black person depending what state you in. Also, black crime is more confined.Yet,
      a lot of people run around yelling black people violent crimes but never
      explain their definition of a violent crime. Then there’s the Per Cap
      thing. Just because you think they whole number are wrong, or do not represent you current belief you use per cap. Look, Whole numbers are whole numbers, just because you use Per Cap does not mean less people were killed, raped or murdered.

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        Notice I did not add the other offences to the Stats below because I need to know your “Definition” of violent crimes. Second, if we go by states white’s crime is more wide spread. Whites commit more crimes no matter how you spin it. Get your information correct please.

        • Guest

          In 2012 Total Crimes were Whites 6,502,919
          Blacks 2,640,067, Murder and nonnegligent
          manslaughter Whites 4,101 Blacks 4,203, Forcible rapes
          Whites 9,027 Blacks 4,512, Aggravated assaults White 188,505 Black 102,371 Arson violent crimes Whites 236,394 Blacks 155,088

          In 2011 Aggravated assaults Whites 194,981 Blacks 102,597, Arson violetcrimes Whites 243,928 Blacks 157,384, Sex offenses Whites 38,422 Blacks 13,189
          Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter
          Whites 4,000 Blacks 4,149,

          Notice is did not add the other offences because I need to know your “Definition” of violent crimes. Second, if we go by states white’s crime is more wide spread. Whites commit more crimes no matter how you spin it. Get your information correct please.

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        n 2012 Total Crimes were Whites 6,502,919
        Blacks 2,640,067, Murder and nonnegligent
        manslaughter Whites 4,101 Blacks 4,203, Forcible rapes
        Whites 9,027 Blacks 4,512, Aggravated assaults White 188,505 Black 102,371 Arson violent crimes Whites 236,394 Blacks 155,088

        In 2011 Aggravated assaults Whites 194,981 Blacks 102,597, Arson violetcrimes Whites 243,928 Blacks 157,384, Sex offenses Whites 38,422 Blacks 13,189
        Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter
        Whites 4,000 Blacks 4,149,

        Notice is did not add the other offences because I need to know your “Definition” of violent crimes. Second, if we go by states white’s crime is more wide spread. Whites commit more crimes no matter how you spin it. Get your information correct please.

  • Terry Jones

    Many of them also spawn from 20 to 30 potential little 7/11 robbers, hookers, drug addicts, rapists, and murderers, by age 28 or 30 with multiple, underage, unwed, more than willing sexual partners with taxpayer funded welfare paying for it all while they stand around on the corners getting drunk on Colt 45 malt liquor, high on killer weed, down on heroin, up on PCP, zonked on angel dust, zipped on crystal meth, zommped on Oxycontin, and bragging about it.
    It’s, “Time to take America back from the animals.”

  • Terry Jones

    It’s time to expose the cause of most of the violent crime and immorality in the US, and consider passing a law “Repatriating” the Negro to it’s homeland.

    • LibsNeedMentalHelp

      the Negro to “it is” homeland? Try again.

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      Tea partiers

  • robynbuckins

    perhaps you should take a basic Sociology 101 course to learn these things as oppose to responding based on your limited knowledge of others or other than your OBVIOUS stereotypes about others… not to mention the arrogance of how you among others totally absolve whites of their role in the oppression of others.. WAIT you don’t realize it because after all the culture of whites is the RIGHT WAY of doing things and is the basis of how all other groups’ culture is measured…

    • Bob Sten

      Robyn, again there is no such thing as racism.

      There is only tribalism, and all groups around the world practice it.

      When whites are in power, they tend to promote other whites.

      When blacks are in power, they tend to promote other blacks.

      When mexicans are in power, they tend to promote other mexicans.

      When jewish people are in power, they tend to promote other jews…..and anyone non-white (many jews have this multi-generational pathological hatred of europeans of christian background aka white people).

      All groups tend to promote their own. It is genetically adaptive. Over time, those groups that don’t do this get erased by the groups that do it. Yet effeminate white liberals pretend it isn’t so. Same with you Robyn.

      So delusional.

      • robynbuckins

        again you are all over the place.. hahahahahaha… ever heard of the straw man fallacy……

        • robynbuckins

          oh yeah but the one thing you are consistent at and that is attempting to put people down… classic behavior of one dimensional thinkers.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            or a tea partier

          • Bob Sten

            Nice generalization ignoranceisnotbliss. I thought you were against generalizing?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            I am but not against Tea party statements. I mean come on BOB you are a smart guy. Do u really think this is ok? Do you really believe any of what your are speaking?

          • Bob Sten

            Ignorance,

            I believe strongly in every idea I am sharing with you. Reality bears out my opinions. Just look at the world around you. People are tribal everywhere.

            It is normal and adaptive.

            Are you really going to tell me that if this story was about whites committing more crime than other groups, you would have come on here standing up for whites and complaining about negative generalizations about whites? Please answer this question.

            NO! The reason you are on here is because you are black, and you are sticking up for your tribe.

            You are a perfect example of the tribalism I speak of.

            I feel like I am talking to a blind person.

            You can’t even acknowledge what motivates you. How can you know others if you don’t even know yourself?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL Bob, you answered for me. I have to disagree. Not wholly though.I agree with you idea of tribal however, It does not replace racism or is not a reason to say racism does not exist. I agree, some people that share the same likeness tend to stay together. However, I also understand social programming. Our society “whole” or in certain groups/areas are diverse. Those people within these “diverse” groups tend to not be tribe (your term). Myself included. I believe in social programming, It explains more and more in multi-levels.

            To answer your question, Not every person that is white is racist. I know this because my social circles are diverse and I look for facts instead of socially programmed answers. The same not every Black person is a criminal. I know this because I am Black and I am not a criminal. I have also studies sociology and anthropology. Which add to my belief of social programming.

            On the other hand, Your “tribal” idea make sense to a point. However, with your Idea, you are saying everyone is racist. That’s not that case. With your tribe Idea, you are saying people are born to hate others. That’s not true either. Racism, Hate, Fear. These traits are all learned traits. People learn racism from their parents, movies, TV, environment, their social circles. I.E. the Tea Party, (I know you are not going to tell me I am wrong about the tea party.) I have like to prove it.

            People learn biases from their everyday experiences. Simple things like watching the news. i.E. If only seeing blond haired blue eyed white skinned people as an anchors on every news station. Your subconscious this tells you, only white with blond hair people can be news official or actors, etc. The same goes for the internet, if you only see black committing crimes than you only think blacks commit crimes and you by pass all the white crimes. On the internet I have seen three pages dedicated to black crimes and none dedicated to white crimes. This is social programming 101. Bombard people with an alternate realities so they do not see what’s in their face.

            Social programming encompass everything, Bob. Think about it. Mylie Cyrus can twerk and make millions however, blacks have been twerking for years and not made a dime and have been see in a bad light. Racial profiling is ok for blacks but not for whites. Social Programming is the cause of all this and diversity is the cure.

            I think you trible idea is ok, but it does not answer any questions. It just puts people in groups and further separate us. Social programming is what this is all about.

            Yes bob, racism is still alive……. and it’s learn not tribal.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Bob, Social programming has been a form of control as long as “Media” has been alive. It’s away business sell to different groups or politicians pull string to get votes. It can aid diversity or divide the masses. Social programming can allow people like Zimmerman to kill someone without conscience because of the belief that a black person in a hoods are automatically guilty, even if that are just walking home or allow OJ to walk free because he is rich and the rich are held to a different standard of laws. Social programming can decide only whites should be actors and that all black are poor and just looking for a hand out. It decides society current views on race or anything for that matter. I.E. the current overweight arguments, or the use of religion being forced on others.

            There is a reason why people like to use Per cap when talking about race, statistics and crimes. It’s because if you use whole numbers they would have to explain why whites commit more crimes but make up less than the prison population. Not just crime but violent crimes as well. FBI facts check them then say I am lying…. Social programming in jury member is a key here. Your tribal idea also says, the reason why zimmerman walked is because the jury was primarily white. which is true and I agree. However, I will still go with social programming. If all the jury members believe Trayvon was guilty because he was black and black people wearing hood have to be up to no good. Which is the current theme. Then that’s the reason why all these killers are getting away with murder using the “stand your ground defence”

            Social Programming plays into everything. Jury members, political parties, education, people beliefs and so on.

            Still the only fix is diversity……… Diversity in media (models of different races), Jobs, Education ( teach “true history beyond MLK”), Movie (when blacks are not just the side kick or but the main character) Sitcoms Etc.

            FYI, you can replay “black” with any other minority and may points is still valid.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You are wrong on so many levels but I have to go now. I will try to post more later.

            But for now, I will say this….

            When you said “With your tribe Idea, you are saying people are born to hate others.”

            This is false. Take a family for instance. Most families are expected to favor each other over non family members. Would you physically be more likely to protect a family member, or a complete stranger? Are you likely to give all of your money when you die to a family member, or some stranger on the street?

            Dozens of studies have been conducted on these things. Humans pretty much universally favor those more closely related to them genetically. You defend your sister faster than you would a stranger. You give more of your money to kin than you do to strangers.

            BUT, just because I love my family this way DOESN’T mean that I “hate” everyone in this world that is not in my family. That is not a logical conclusion.

            We favor those most closely related to us…..history bears this out…..we first favor ourselves, then we favor our family….then we favor our ethnic group….then we favor our race. In that order BECAUSE it goes in order of genetic relatedness.

            It all makes sense and is all adaptive.

            Humans do this universally around the world. Those that don’t get wiped out.

            Left wing naive pinko commies (too humiliated to admit they are red), say that this human nature shouldn’t be so and it is bad. They say everyone should treat everyone as though they are family members. It’s these same communist nuts that get into power, and then own expensive cars, have multiple homes, and live high on the hog (for themselves and their FAMILIES), while the workers live in poverty. I should know, my wife is from Vietnam. She will tell you my words are true about the communuts.

            I say nonsense. The world population of humans has exploded to over 5 billion….and this all the while where extreme tribalism existed.

            If tribalism wasn’t successful, human numbers would have declined in the last 1,000 years rather than increased.

            Tribalism is the norm, and it is successful. “Universalism” and “selflessness” is a pipe dream perpetuated by those that will deceive you.

            The truth will set you free. See things for what they really are, not for what you want them to be.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, Bob this is going to be a back and forth argument but I welcome a challenge. In your statement you have just describe, social connects, which is a part of social programming.

            Families have been taught to guard each other from the beginning of time. You are talking about different social structure. These structures has changed so many times during the age of MAN. You really need to take an anthropology class before you use words like “All or every” for instance. In china there are families of completely different make-ups from the United States.

            I am not going to take you to school, so I am going to try to make this as short as possible. There are family make ups where men are not apart of the nuclear family lives. The mans sole purpose is to donate sperm. Women own the land, keep the family, do everything. This is a social norm in that part of the world. The family only really takes care of the nuclear family and not the father because he is really an outsider.

            In other places, The norm is, if a woman marries a man, she has to marries the man’s brothers as well. In this case a women can have up to 5 different husbands and all of them brothers. This is a social norm in that part of the world. They only worry about themselves seeing as they are really not connected to huge population and live in the mountains.

            In the United states times has changed family structure and values. In the past people wanted huge family, 10 or more children. Today’s families generally only have two children at most. Women have become the bread winners, have better jobs and are equals in relenships now. Families have become more self sufficient.

            It’s not tribalism you are trying to explain. It’s social programming. Just like religion is a part of social programming. Also, People adapt to their environment not to a tribe. Tribe pass along the knowledge they gain, with is an example of “Social programming”. Not to mention “tribalism” does not explain mass media, it’s influence on masses, social structures and individuals. Or the explosion of minority web sites that have influenced and allowed for “truths” to be seen within our country as well as different opinions Vs mainstream ideas.. Social Programming, does:)

            Sorry friend I think you failed on this one. (Your argument is flawed) Sorry, I like that word. I am not trying to be mean however, You are not stating the truth. Tribalism is a ploy to separate people from the truth. (Diversity will fix many of the social problems in our country.) Not just black and white, but diversity for gays, religion, women, ETC.

            Tea Party, views are a means to destroy diversity. Or have you “not” seen their agenda or how they gain members. Reality is before you Bob. You can take the red pill and stay in denial or the blue one and accept diversity. The blue side is not about forcing views on you and others. That’s red side is and the proof is in your party acts and words.

            Reds/tea partiers that push hate:, Dan savage, Sarah palin, Michelle Bachmann, Glenn Beck and many others to include their politicians. As well as the red Politicians that do not speak out against hate.
            .

        • Bob Sten

          Straw man? Uh, like pointing out that some whites owned black slaves in the past, therefore all whites past and present are evil?

          Like that strawman?

      • robynbuckins

        first of all Bob race is a social construct THIS WE KNOW.. so is gender, religion, sexuality, class DUH… and as a result racism is a result of this social construct… once again, a social construct perpetuated by Europeans.. you do remember scientific racism.. Hoffman and the rest of the boys trying to figure out the brains of Black people.. hahahahaha… have you ever heard of a false dichotomy… hahahaha.. boy you are all over the place.. but I will give you this.. you are at least consistent at attempting to put people down by calling them names so as to make your self look good… but let me tell you sweetie.. when you arrive at a conclusion based off a false premise, you should rethink your premise; otherwise, you might end up believing the world is flat! .. hahahahahaha

        • robynbuckins

          Black power promotes other Blacks.. what the hell are you talking about.. hahahahahaha… do you know what the Black Power Movement was about… what they stood for.. do you even know about Black Nationalism .. and I’m talking about within context from an Afro-centric viewpoint.. NO you don’t and how could you when can’t even acknowledge that racism exist … like I said you ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE

        • Bob Sten

          robyn,

          Every bile-like idea in your last post is a left wing university cliche. All of those things have been said 10,000 times before by others before you. You got all these ideas from left wing lunatic professors.

          That makes you a mindless, unthinking parrot. Completely unoriginal, and easily led. It was people like you that crucified Christ.

          Tribalism is the norm robyn. Blacks are tribal. Mexicans are tribal. Asians are tribal. Whites are tribal.

          If the tribalism of whites is allegedly bad (according to you and the left wing professors that do your thinking for you) then why is the tribalism of blacks, mexicans, pakistanis, indians, japanese, chinese, koreans, and others not bad?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            If Tribalism is your claims, this it would refer to you as will correct. If that is the case, it would make you incapable of seeing others arguments from a point of view where you could actually understand their claim, correct?

          • Bob Sten

            No, this is not correct at all ignorance (i will just call you that for short from now on – your name is too long to type every time).

            I have black and mexican colleagues that I explain my views about tribalism to, and they agree with me (although they themselves are tribal too).

            So, no, your theory is shot down. IMHO, being tribal helps you understand more clearly the tribalism of others.

            However, if you are a self righteous, self important hypocrite that ignores your own tribalism, and the tribalism of your OWN group, but you claim the tribalism of others is horrible “racism”, then you will be blinded by narcissistic hypocrisy.

            I see the tribalism of myself and others, and think it is natural and the norm. I understand others arguments for what they are – self serving tribalism. You accept the tribalism of non-whites, and then condemn whites for their tribalism.

            You cannot understand my point of view. I understand even the point of views of malcolm x and al sharpton. Understand now?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Bob, I am sorry I think I am with robynbuckins on this one. I can’t agree with your idea. However, I think we are both trying to explain the same theory. You with tribalism and me with social programming. If thats the case your theory is a part of mine, meaning tribalism It is not the whole issue or a fix.

      • robynbuckins

        Bob do you have a life other than sitting by the computer spreading the Cancer of hate… ahahahaahahahah

        • Bob Sten

          robyn,

          Cancer of hate? That’s all you are learning in the university is to hate european culture, christianity, and white people. That is all I see from your posts.

          You talk about white people as though they are all the same.

          You constantly talk about the past, and imply that whites owe your tribe and other so called minority tribes for white tribalism.

          I say that is ludicrous.

          Whites owe you nothing. Every group is tribal. Black tribalism and the culture of grievance bleed through in all of your posts. You are full of hate. I am full of reality. I am enlightened. I see the world for what it is and acknowledge the way it is. The truth is beautiful once you really open your eyes to see how people behave. Things become so much more predictable. You live in a left wing fairy land where whites are responsible for everything bad, and have never done good. It’s a communist delusion that is perpetuated in most mainstream universities in the western world.

          You want to hate on whites for long dead white tribalism, but I say it’s silly. All groups are tribal and look out for their own.

          There is nothing wrong with that. You are just so much of a hypocrite, you cannot see your own duplicity. You are blind to your own faults, your tribalism, and the tribalism of your people.

      • robynbuckins

        Bob you really should learn to respond without attempting to insult people because it is not a very good look on your part…hahahahha typically those who experience COGNITIVE dissonance resort to such tactics

        • Bob Sten

          robyn,

          cognitive dissonance…….

          You mean like claiming that white tribalism is bad, while at the same time promoting the tribalism of black people?

          You mean that kind of cognitive dissonance?

          cognitive dissonance….

          You mean like highlighting the tribalism of white people, but then ignoring the tribalism of:

          -blacks
          -jews
          -mexicans
          -pakistanis
          -indians
          -japanese
          -koreans
          -chinese

          You mean that kind of cognitive dissonance?

          Thanks for bringing your own cognitive dissonance to my attention robyn, but I saw it from the get go.

  • robynbuckins

    Bob… I live in San Francisco…. one of the cities with the highest Asian population… like I said you should take a Sociology Class… third generation Asian typically are more Americanized.. they are in conflict with 1st generation on this issue and do not like being called “model minorities”…. do the research or better yet sit in a classroom with them and find out… http://www.asian-nation.org/model-minority.shtml

  • robynbuckins

    Bob Stern …excerpt ”

    Even today, white America continues to use the Asian American “success story” to counter or deflect the charges of systemic racism often leveled by black activists. In my government class this semester, a white student pointed insinuatingly to Japanese Americans as a group that, though historically oppressed, had managed to become successful without the help of affirmative action. Both blacks and Asian Americans often find themselves flustered on this point, reacting defensively or offensively, but rarely, I think, grasping the whole proportions of the problem

    http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~yisei/issues/spring_92/ys92_20.html

    • robynbuckins

      Like I said you should take a course on Asians .. Blacks.. Hispanics.. since you advocate to know so much about them.. hahaha and always attempt to compare one group to another to justify how the systems of oppression don’t affect them …

      • Bob Sten

        robyn,

        Is that how you learn about the real world? By taking courses overwhelmingly taught by far left wingers? You think you are hearing balanced opinions in the university?

        I graduated with my degree way back in the early 90’s. I was a communist fool by the time i got out. Years of travel and really seeing people for what they are was the best education I got in terms of capitalism, communism, race, ethnicity, religion, and tribalism.

        All you are getting in the university is indoctrination….and a false sense of history.

    • Bob Sten

      robyn,

      It’s not a “success story”. As I have pointed out over and over, and even given links to actual government statistics, asians ARE succeeding.

      They are succeeding without having to beg for handouts and pretend like someone owes them for something that happened to someone other than them (like their great, great, great granduncle).

      Maybe you are jealous of asian success, but it is success nonetheless.

  • robynbuckins

    I’m not sure who it was that asked me how many Whites did I think owned slaves…… ANSWER: only a small percentage.. 3% I believe.. DUH… contrary to popular belief not all BLACKS are ignorant …. and what is your point.. just because a small percentage of Whites owned slaves does not mean that the society was not a product of such mentality… DUH…like I tell many Blacks who say well Lincoln was a racist.. hell it was the 1800s what the hell do you expect.. CONTEXT must always be applied… also who said I hate White people.. nice try.. I never said that.. that’s you speaking… in fact I have and know some really nice Whites who are my friends.. hahahahahahaha…the fact is that many Whites can’t handle the truth about history but got the nerve to talk about how others are this and that….

  • robynbuckins

    again Bob.. go out and learn about people… and I mean actually learn and stop sitting behind a computer and spreading WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW

    • Bob Sten

      robyn,

      I know what you are, and I know why you are that way.

      You are tribal, and looking out for the tribal interests of you and your people.

      You are selling guilt to further your tribal interests, but I aint buying.

      Sell it to someone more naive, like some effeminate white liberals.

  • robynbuckins

    Bob.. blah blah blah…..try your hand at critical thinking dude.. but in order to so so means questioning your own thinking .. but the problem I see with you is that you don’t know much about others .your knowledge is based on stereotypes about others ..I provided you with links with respect to Asian American’s and how they seem themselves in relation to Whites along with some statistical facts that can be measured and you still REFUSE to listen… you disregard the fact that every group labeled “minority” is nowhere near the socio-economic status as whites and this is because of the categories of differences perpetuated by Europeans in this country.. namely YOUR founding fathers and early settlers.. YA DIG… give it rest dude

    • Bob Sten

      robyn,

      Wait. I said that indians and asians made more money than whites, and you said basically “but they hate being thought of as the model obedient minority”.

      Now you say “you disregard the fact that every group labeled “minority” is nowhere near the socio-economic status as whites”

      You are contradicting yourself. You now say that asians don’t make as much as whites? I thought you admitted that they do?

      Well, if you say that asians make less than whites, that is a lie (just another one of your lies). Must you really lie to rationalize your hatred of white people? Are you going to try to doctor the numbers now?

      This link shows that japanese in hawaii make more than whites. Much more. How is that, if whitey is oppressing all non whites in hawaii?

      http://www.hawaiibusiness.com/Hawaii-Business/October-2013/Which-Ethnic-Group-Makes-the-Most-Money/

      This next link references, not some left wing lunatic professor. It references not some “hate white people ethnic studies – emotional testimonies”, it references the Bureau of Labor Statistics. It YET AGAIN SHOWS THAT ASIANS MAKE MORE THAN WHITES IN THE U.S.

      http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/01/21/which-race-earns-most-in-us-the-numbers-may-surprise-you/

      How many more times must I disprove your “false dichotomy” of evil rich white “oppressors” oppressing poor non-whites?

      Stop lying woman. And do some research on your own for once.

      BTW. You want a great book about the brainwashing you are receiving in your “university”? Read the book “THE RAPE OF ALMA MATER”. Every idea you have parroted is well documented in that book.

  • robynbuckins

    oh please Bob… cut and paste job what…so providing information (edu links) for you to take a look at in order to assist you to look in another direction other than the very narrow and limited one you travel down… the problem is that YOU DON’T THINK…. you base everything off stereotypes.. and then what you do is attempt to put others down by attacking the information provided because you can’t handle NEW information that contradicts your beliefs.. ever heard of DISSONANCE.. hahahaha. and I will not address that garbage you just written because it is all over the place AGAIN.. get out from behind the computer … go out and meet people OUTSIDE your comfort zone… If there is no racism.. then why are you sitting here going back and forth with me about minorities and then attempting to prove your point by “comparing” these groups… You talk in circles and contradict yourself. why are you attempting to prove something you say doesn’t even exist..BTW when I speak of racism .. I am talking about institutional racism.. not like you… you on some other crazy shit .. hahahahaaha… street venucular…. Ya DIG! oh yeah take that and run with it… GO LEARN ABOUT THE CATEGORIES OF DIFFERENCES .. how they are constructed and transformed to maintain inequality in this world… stop preaching to me about how whites are not privileged just because they are white.. stop preaching about how systems of oppression don’t exist… which implies that the playing field is level for all that are labeled different..GET REAL!!!!

  • robynbuckins

    who care Bob.. you sound like a broken record.. dribble dribble dribble…

  • robynbuckins

    btw you talk about tribalism… ???????? context okay.. I’m talking apples and you are talk oranges.. I’m talking about the structural framework of this country … you know its social institutions with respect to systems of oppression…. there is no arguing that this country is built on principles that were not originally afforded to African Americans and others.. and remain in effect to this very day… Like I said GO LEARN ABOUT PEOPLE .. go to the different communities or as we BLACK FOLK say “the hood”.. hahahahaha… go to Japanese town (wait there only are two left in this country given that they too were wiped out)… go to Chinatown …. why not discuss the enclaves… SO SO SO MUCH MORE that you fail to put into context because your white privilege blinds you….

    • Bob Sten

      Talk about TODAY robyn. Wake up. It’s not 1830 rip van winkle.

      • Bexcee

        I’m sure they honestly discuss this in Afrocentrism class: Actual quotes, links to original documents/statements/writings of the Founders and their positions/actions taken on ending the 200 yr pre-US founding history of owning slaves in America’s, & how they desired to end it. A bit different than Lincolns idea of rashly usurping states rights, thus causing the death of + 600,000. BTW..lets not resort to complaining about the source, just look up the documents as they speak for themselves. Just no one else would bother researching past opinion/stats in popular history books/$$$publishers, or if dug up, bother to share them with the American people. It upsets the neo-statists $$$Govco status-quo. http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=122

      • robynbuckins

        .. the past connects to the future.. and if you had enough sense Bob you would connect the dots though a historical timeline…that’s part of your problem and the reason why most of your responses are flawed

        • Ignorance is not bliss

          Social programming from the past builds on todays generation as well

        • Bob Sten

          The irish were colonized and impoverished by the english for over 600 years.

          Does that mean the past should impact the irish forever?

          Does it mean that the irish should blame all of their failings from here to eternity on the english?

          Is this reasonable?

          • robynbuckins

            Let me explain something to you.. people are responsible and accountable for their individual behavior and conduct YA Dig.. I’m not debating that .. the deal is that when you live a world whereby 400 years of legalized discrimination keeps you down and under the knife what the hell do you expect ….try this with respect to economics:

            “African Americans were frozen out of the greatest wealth building opportunities in American history, from the Homestead Act in the 1860s, to education and homeownership opportunities provided by the GI Bill and the Federal Housing Administration, to redlining through contemporary discrimination in housing markets, to the segregation tax on housing appreciation, major government-sponsored wealth building opportunities helped foster America’s MIDDLE-CLASS and created much wealth. Meanwhile these same policies and practices left the African-American community behind at the starting gate. Inheritance of our racial past thus becomes an integral part of the wealth narrative”

          • robynbuckins

            that fact of the matter Bob is that the Irish has never faced legal prohibitions on asset ownership and citizenship as African American… Chinese.. Hispanics… and the one element that separates those two groups from AA is slavery…

          • Bob Sten

            The chinese succeed in america. How do you explain this robyn?

            If they are so persecuted, how are they succeeding?

            BTW, you can thank the irish for the freedom of black people in this country. If you really knew history, you would know that the irish were integral in providing soldiers for the north to defeat the south. Without irish soldiers, who knows what the outcome would have been.

            But, I’m sure you knew that already, didn’t you?????

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  • robynbuckins

    yeah Bob… take a look at institutional racism… oh wait racism doesn’t exist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJSTfKXDVrg

    • Bob Sten

      Robyn,

      Are you deaf? Are you serious?

      The guy planting the coke wasn’t even a cop. He was an informant, probably going to go to jail unless he gave the cops a bigger dog to arrest. So, the informant tried to plant drugs in the business owner’s shop.

      And did this shady informant successfully frame the black guy?

      NOOOOOOOO

      Who found him out? The COPS you tool!!!!!

      The cops found out, and are going to bust the informant, that’s why he is on the run now.

      God you are clueless.

      “Institutional racism” in this video?

      Nah, just a criminal trying to get out of trouble (Andrews).

      You are pretty desperate robyn.

      • Ignorance is not bliss
        • Ignorance is not bliss
          • Ignorance is not bliss

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuOmDjowrEo
            Overtly Racist Speech At Tea
            Party Immigration Rally

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVKNUK7hxuo
            GOP Tea-Party Racism
            Resurfaces at Anti-Obama KLAN Rallies

            http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2013/07/heres-shocker-new-study-finds-that.html
            The
            Immoral Minority, study Tea Party
            motivated by racism

            http://www.occupydemocrats.com/republicans-swear-racist/
            Tea Partiers Swear They Are Not Racist, But Their
            Actions Beg to Differ

            http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/19/study-uncovers-anti-black-attitudes-among-tea-party-supporters-but-not-members/
            Study uncovers anti-black attitudes among tea party supporters — but not
            members

          • Ignorance is not bliss
          • Bob Sten

            What are all these links for ignorance?

            To rationalize your hatred of whites?

            What is the point?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Booo, they are tea party links. your friends

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You said I am in the tea party. So why would I need links to read about the tea party if I am already in it?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            That’s the problem, with this politic affiliation BS. You do not know what your party is pushing. Here is the difference between you and I, I am independent. I look at links of both parties and I know both party have flaws. However, out of all the parties in the political realm. The Tea Party is pure evil. You would not know that because you don’t follow your party. You just shake your head yes and move along like a good little sheep.

            BAAAAAH

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Yes, I agree with everything the tea party says.

            What’s it to you?

            Gonna call me names for it? Oh no, please don’t. I’m so fazed by your endless name calling. Please don’t, please don’t.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            So many left wingers are so blatantly hypocritical it is painful. This again is why I became conservative some 8 years or so ago.

            The first video alleges some “damning information about so called conservative “racism”.

            I watched the video, and my response is …

            Are you kidding me?

            Attacks on obama were so called “racism” because he was compared to hitler, the devil, and called a liar?

            Really?

            Really?

            Really?

            Unfriggin-believable.

            Just google images with the following search terms:

            -bush liar
            -bush devil
            -bush hitler

            You will find hundreds of these pictures of Bush online.

            All these images brought to you by the same hypocritical morons that watch and are a part of msnbc.

            This is the problem with many on the left, and by extension, yourself.

            Why are you even responding to me? You have revealed yourself to be a vile hypocrite over, and over, and over again. You have zero credibility.

            Go look at those pictures again. You make me ill.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            You became a cons because they are ok with racism.

            The Tea Party has use racism from the beginning starting 2009, not just pictures of hitler But Obama and his family as monkeys. They have shout racism language. Did bush receive racism? the answer is No,

            You are so socially programmed it almost funny.

            Second, have you read the Tea Parties agenda?
            Have you been to a Rep web site? If you have, you would know how much racism is thrown around on those sites. Then again you are ok with racism.

            Are you also ok with Dan savage telling white people to get guns to kill blacks?

            How about Michele Bachmann saying all black children should be slaves?

            Do you agree with the Jim crow laws and the tea party fight to try to keep alive?

            Do you think the killing of these kids is justified even though they had the “American” right to listen to their music as loud as they wanted in their own car?

            Do about all the anti-black statements Dunn made before the murder?

            Do you think all the racially motivated crime in florida are ok? LOL, you pointed out the mob statement from Whitegirlbleedalot, but you are ok with all the murders and injustice that has lead to the mobs uprising?

            You are pure BS BOB, the poster child for Social Programming!

          • Ignorance is not bliss
          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Wow, the world is out to get you.

            Booo!

            You said “not just pictures of hitler But Obama and his family as monkeys. They have shout racism language. Did bush receive racism? the answer is No,”

            Again, you are a vile, delusional hypocrite. Look up bush chimp images on google.

            You will find thousands of pictures portraying bush as a chimp.

            So, you are a liar there, not just a hypocrite, a liar. You say this was done to obama, but not bush. You will deny reality.

            You will DENY those pics exist….but they do
            You will deny the tribalism of blacks…but it’s there
            You will deny the tribalism of yourself…but it’s blatant

            I can’t believe what an unabashed, lying hypocrite you are.

            Some tea party whites are tribal…big deal. I can’t find thousands of blacks in america that have similar tribal views of whites.

            But you deny that too. You are so blind.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Tribal or racist they can’t be both, As for the other BS everyone else has see the Tea Party BS beside you and fox :)

            I guess it was to hard to answer the questions. good job on deflecting :)

            I understand BOB why you can’t answer the questions. If you say “yes” to the racist BS your party spews you are racist just like them the other Tea Partiers .

            If you say “No” you don’t agree with the Racist BS your party spews I have just beaten your tribal argument.

            LOL……. Someones in a rock in a hard place!!! What’s Answer the questions.. Or are you going to stall and deflect again. No generalized answers Please.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You rely on the words “racist” and “racism”, rather than logic and debate.

            This is one of the huge failures of the left in my view. An over-reliance on calling people “ists”, or “isms”.

            To make my point clear, I ask you to do this test….

            Try to make all your points without using the terms “racist”, “racism”, “sexist”, “sexism”, “bigot”, or “bigotry” for the next two years. Try, for just two years to do this.

            I bet you cannot do it. You so heavily rely on painting your opponents with these terms, that you have almost nothing to offer without them. You are a tribal mudslinger, delusional, and in denial.

            Just one more reason I moved from left to right.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            So you can’t answer the questions? LOL, i knew you were going to deflect.

            The debate is on “racist”, “racism”, Social programming Vs tribalism, and the BS tea party. I guess liberalism but the only one arguing that is you.

            Do me a favor, answer a question without deflect or generalizing.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You failed. You used the terms “racist” and “racism” twice in that last response.

            Two years? You can’t even go a day without using those terms.

            Try a little harder.

            What questions did I not answer specifically?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            How about you try not generalizing or deflecting everything. How about answering the questions. All your comments are a redirection. nothing with facts.

            Second, the discussion is about racism, social programming Verses Tribalism, the tea party and liberals.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            I wrote a thousand things.

            One which was that the irish, under the english catholic penal laws could not vote.

            That was a fact. So, you are wrong again.

            You said I gave no facts, I just gave you one of many that I stated previously. It’s not my fault you don’t actually read my posts.

        • Bob Sten

          You post a link to a far left wing online site as “proof” that the tea party supports racial profiling? Seriously?

          If you think gawker is unbiased, do you also think Fox News is unbiased?

          Let me guess your childish answer…..”everyone that agrees with me is unbiased, and everyone that disagrees with me is biased”

          The raving megalomania of the simpleton….

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Actually no, look at all my links please. Like i said in my statement. The politicians from the right provide their own proof. Bob you know your party and how twisted it is

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            I think i killed your “tribalism Vs racism Vs social programming statements”, Bob.

            Next opponent, I think Bob is finish:) I still love you though even if you practice tea party politics

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            No, I know some news sites are bias but there is a different between lying and being bias you know that. No, you watch fox nevermind :)

          • Bob Sten

            Give me some lies from fox…..

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            look them up now, you seen my links

          • Bob Sten

            Your links are a combination of far left wing blathering.

            ….and

            bias that is typical of fox and msnbc.

            There are no lies.

            Don’t make me watch an hour of boring videos.

            Tell me specifically where fox lied????

            Bias yes. But fox is no more biased than msnbc. In fact, I would argue than msnbc is more biased than fox. Fox invites left wingers as guests all the time. They even have left wingers employed full time in front of the camera.

            I have never seen msnbc bring on strong conservatives, NOR have I seen any conservatives that are employed full time in front of the camera at msnbc.

            Thus, they are even less balanced than fox.

            But you don’t refer to msnbc bias as “lies”, you only refer to fox bias as “lies”.

        • Bob Sten

          gawker is left wing garbage.

          They love to generalize. Something you say you oppose ignorance.

  • robynbuckins

    I bet outside of Dr. King.. you don’t any thing else about Afrocentrism.. you don’t have to know because the dominate majority rules and all others are measure by white standard.. GET REAL and give it a rest dude seriously

  • robynbuckins

    and who said I was a liberal….like I said more and more assumptions are your part.. you are full of them

    • Bob Sten

      So you are conservative? In the tea party maybe?

  • robynbuckins

    also you are wrong when it comes to each group just promoting their own because groups that are oppressed can’t uplift one without the other… YOU HAVE A LOT TO LEARN….you see the world through “indvidualism” .. but oppressed groups that really know how to overcome obstacles know that it takes “collectivism” …. the REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED… btw I think the right one might be ethnocentrism or try enculturation or try hegemonic .. depending on the context but tribalism.. hahahahahaha

    • Bob Sten

      Robyn,

      Oppressed people can’t lift one another through tribalism?

      And you think you know history?

      Irish catholics were by far the majority of people in ireland (over 80% of the population). The english enacted laws to keep the native irish from gaining power.

      Under these laws, Irish catholics in their own country (after it was taken over by the english),
      -weren’t allowed to vote
      -were banned from marrying protestants
      -were barred from holding weapons or serving in the armed forces
      -were barred from being in parliament
      -were banned from getting a foreign education
      -were banned from buying land under a lease for more than 30 years
      -were banned from inheriting protestant (english) land
      -were barred from owning a horse valued for over 5 english pounds
      and more

      The irish catholics stuck together (tribally), and fought together to get these laws repealed and to win back their homeland. Eventually they did, gaining 75% of the island back as free territory, independent of england.

      After being colonized by britain, ireland was poor for many generations.

      I should know. My grandfather was an IRA man that helped win ireland’s independence.

      But do the british of today owe the irish people of today for what happened in the past? Heck no.

      There are plenty of poor people in ireland today. They, nor I, can blame any british people, past or present, for what occurs today.

      The irish got hell when they moved to the US during the civil war. So did the italians when they came in the early 20th century. Both groups here tribally stuck together to counteract the tribalism of other groups that were already here.

      So yes, groups have and do tribally stick together to improve their lot.

      Why do you think blacks, mexicans, and asians whine so much about having their own clubs in schools? Why do you think they lobby so much for having “ethnic studies” departments in universities to fawn over “their histories”? Why do you think there is a black chamber of commerce in the US, and a hispanic one too? Why do you think BET exists? All of this is because of tribalism and groups clamoring for their tribal interests. Don’t play stupid.

      Go read a book on it for heaven’s sake. You really are not well rounded when it comes to history robyn.

      You are obsessed with black history, and victimization history, but not much else.

  • robynbuckins

    It seems I am gonna have to give you a history lesson on how Europeans forcibly took others possessions… removed them from their land… took away their culture.. language and on and on.. and somehow that did not manifest into the mess that still exists today,…. you know I don’t like stooping to attacks on others not even against people such as yourself.. but BOB you are DELUSIONAL and that’s an understatement.. hahahahaha

    • Bob Sten

      Robyn,

      All europeans took possessions of others? It’s you that needs a history lesson robyn.

      Whining people like you that can never let go of the past never cease to amaze me. The ignorance. The one sided reporting. It’s all so self righteous and distorted.

      Firstly, if you are talking about colonialism, not all europeans were colonial powers.

      The irish were colonized by the english, so were the scots and welsh. The scots, irish, and welsh had no colonies, neither did the swedes, neither did the swiss, or the finns, or the norwegians, or the danes, or the poles, or the italians (other than a short stint in ethiopia) or the eastern europeans.

      In fact, the eastern europeans were colonized by the Turks. Yet, to you, all white people must look alike in your eyes, so you ASSume that all of their histories are the same. They aren’t. How are the swedes, norwegians, danes, poles, austrians, swiss, irish, scots, welsh and others of today “guilty” of what people from other countries did generations ago?

      Are you “guilty” because of what every black criminal did past and present? Oh, no. There is one standard for you, and another for your hated white people, right?

      Did you know that the Mongols of east asia raped, murdered, and plundered caucasian lands for centuries? Did you know that their armies marched all the way west to france? Did you know that if it wasn’t for a coalition of italians and germans defeating the mongols in france, most of europe today would probably be asian?

      Did you know that much of the present day steppe in western china, and west of china used to be caucasian lands (Persian), but it was taken over by asians?

      Lands have been fought over for centuries. Some gained and some lost. Do you think the asians of today “owe” reparations to the caucasians for the lands they “stole” and now control?

      Oh no, you would never want to support your hated Caucasians, would you?

      Go learn about the different peoples of europe robyn. They aren’t the monolithic, monocultural group you make them out to be.

      Before the colonial powers of europe victimized any non-whites in the past, they victimized other europeans first.

      The biggest victims of Europeans? Other Europeans!!!!

      What was the biggest war in history robyn, with over 50 million killed? It was world war II. It was white people killing other white people.

      What is the biggest war prior to that? It was world war I. Again, it was white people killing other white people.

      No, blacks, hispanics, and asians are not the biggest victims of whites silly. Whites have been the biggest victims of whites throughout history. You are just too busy whining over the past to figure it out.

      Let’s talk about slavery to while we are at it. Slavery existed on every continent robyn. Whites were the first to make slavery illegal on a wide scale.

      Another thing. Did you know that when slavery was legal in the US only 7% of whites owned slaves? That means that 93% of whites back then owned NO SLAVES.

      Yet you, and ignorant people like yourself, go around with this chip on your shoulder about slavery, lumping all white people together, when 93% of today’s white population in the US had ancestors that didn’t even own slaves.

      Your hate blinds you to true history. You have no clue. I am sure you could have a phd in black victimology…..but it’s nonsense built on half truths, propaganda, and sleight of hand.

      Real history isn’t as, ummmm, black and white as you make it out to be.

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        Now bob has stop arguing with you and started to be nasty. he completely closed now.

        Bob please stop saying real history, especially if you can confront the true and understand how it impacts today society.

        • Bob Sten

          ignorance,

          When slavery was legal in the US, 7% of whites owned slaves.

          93% didn’t own slaves.

          So, why do you expect ALL white people to feel “guilty” from what 7% of DEAD white people did?

          Shouldn’t 93% of white people not feel “guilty” for anything?

          What does a white child born today have to do with what a tiny minority of people did 180 years ago? I already know your response ignorance. You will shift the goal post and claim that slavery isn’t the problem, you will then claim that the problem is white tribalism. Yet, this isn’t a problem, all groups do it. What do you expect, all other people to be tribal and that’s cool, but white people should not be tribal? Is that what you are wanting?

          Is the past going to control black people forever ignorance?

          1,000 years from now, will black people still be blaming all of their failures on slavery, on whites, or on some other group?

          There are almost no white people in guyana. Who do poor blacks blame for their poverty in that country? Indians!

          Just like here, in guyana, blacks fail to take responsibility for what they do now. They blame all of their failings on other people. It’s getting old for many americans….

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            I have all ready explained social programming. I can’t force you to actually read or take the time to think about. Which is why you will always be a sheep

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You ask for my respect.

            You claim I shouldn’t generalize, but you claim ALL members of the tea party are evil. Therefore you are a hypocrite.

            You claim the tribalism of whites is wrong and should be condemned, but you don’t claim the tribalism of nonwhites is wrong or should be condemned. Therefore you are a hypocrite.

            Sorry, but I tend to not respect hypocrites ignorance.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Man, please read a statement. I don’t want your respect, I said take your time and read and analyze what has been written. I have destroyed your Tribalism argument already . It’s BS The Tea Party is a Hate group and you know it. Once again you have not provided any fact showing they are not. just”O i know you are but what am I” BS. Wow your really suck are arguing. You state the same bs even after it’s been beaten. You don’t prove any points or being links and your redirect or deflect everything. Your arguments are BS.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You have proven tribalism doesn’t exist?

            You said “its bs”. You proved nothing.

            Look at the tribal conflicts in northern ireland, israel, rwanda, the conflict between indians and pakistanis, between the chinese and malays, between the chinese and japanese, between blacks and mexicans in the LA area. I could go on and on.

            There is a tribal conflict going on on every continent.

            And you say you “proved” tribalism doesn’t exist?

            Huhhh?

            Earth to ignorance, earth to ignorance……are you there?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            You have not proved anything. You just spouted a lot of generalized BS again.

          • Bob Sten

            Have you ever travelled outside the US ignorance, or read about tribal conflicts around the world?

            Are you incapable of educating yourself about them?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Really, A guy that has never been anywhere, who is for racism is telling me that I am not worldly. That’s rich….

            You can’t even prove your own points….
            Tea Party logic, deny, Blame Obama, use racism, keep posting the same BS, and Facts are for Libs….

            You are doing well.

            Hey, Tim Wise is white, why didn’t you jump on his coat tail? O that’s right he is not oking racism..

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Tim wise hates white gentiles for some reason. Why would I follow him?

            Do you follow this guy just because he is black?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KisCn1TyOc

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            According to your tribalism Bs you should support all and only whites correct?

            I do not believe in your idea, I believe you have been socially programmed to think as you do.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance says

            “According to your tribalism Bs you should support all and only whites correct?”

            That was dumb. Wow, just wow.

            Let’s say the indians and pakistanis are in a tribal war (actually they are if you travelled a bit, you could see it for yourself).

            Let’s say an indian was seen as a sellout, an uncle tom, a traitor for the other side. By your incorrect ASSumption, indians should support the uncle tom indian. But in reality they DON’T. They side with those that back their tribe, not traitors. This is why Gandhi was killed. A hindu thought he was a sellout.

            Just like you despise black uncle toms.

            And mexicans hate coconuts.

            And jews hate self hating jews.

            Get it now clueless?

            I don’t like white liberals, they are wimps, suckers, naive, indoctrinated little uncle toms. I used to be one. Now I can see. I was once blind, now the world is clear to me.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, I think your definition of tribalism change every other comment.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Where was I inconsistent specifically?

            Give me a sentence. Im sure it simply needs clarification.

            You are the hypocrite here. I am consistent.

  • robynbuckins

    Happy Valentine’s Day Bob.. hahahahaha… btw your use of the word “effeminate” is telling….. remember when I told you about categories of differences and how they are constructed and maintained/transformed… and intersect race, gender, sexuality, class.. UMMMMM.. the more you talk .. the more you prove my point… again Happy Valentine’s Day.. go out to the hood and party…. hahahaha

  • Bexcee

    Dang. I’m from Fl and this was NOT on the news. At least not like it should have been. Dangerous not to report this. New: Black mob violence at state fair in Tampa. http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/new-black-mob-violence-at-state-fair-in-tampa/

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      White girl bleed a lot is a racist site that glenn beck helps. I guarantee if their were Sites dedicated to Whites that commit crimes WGBAL would die out.

      • Bob Sten

        ignorance,

        The black mob attack happened in tampa.

        You are simply in denial.

        If it was a white mob in tampa attacking blacks, you would treat the story completely differently.

        Your tribalism revealed….YET AGAIN!

        • Ignorance is not bliss

          Actually, White on white crime really is not reported. You know that bob. Second, it’s a racist site. You know that too. Tribalism is BS. That fact that a post came from a racist site that does not report anything but black crimes on white is stupid. IT’S A RACISTS site RAN BY A TEA PARTIER. Glenn Beck.

          It’s not an example of tribalism. It’s an example of social programming and how you are programmed. You are a member of this racist site, If I remember correctly. Which bring further proof of Social Programming. Sorry, BOB you are the weakest link.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance says

            “Actually, White on white crime is not really reported”

            In roughly 60 seconds, I found this white on white crime online, reported by FOX no less.

            http://fox13now.com/2014/02/18/girl-charged-with-murder-in-utah-county-deputys-shooting/

            So, you are a liar and a fraud ignorance, congratulations.

            I am a “member” of this site? Huhh? I just started looking at it. Ignorance, are you on medication?

            Not only are you a hypocrite and blind, you are delusional too.

            Is everyone in the tea party out to get you? Do they follow you around your city?

            Are they tapping your phone? Have you seen a doctor about your delusions?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, tea partiers do what they do, but you know that :)

            In that 60 second you searched, how much white on black crimes sites did you have to search through. Better question, how my sites did you see that only shown white on black crime or white on white crime. I am going to say “NONE”.

            How many sites did you find that show white on white crime, one? LOL, you found an article. Is that really evidence that white crime is reported as much as black on white crime?

            Social Programming friend. Nice try….

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, you are the Tea Partier, can you tell me why the Tea Party hates minorities? I could careless about them. I hope every tea Partier is thrown out the office they hold.

            You are a tea Partier so you are going to deny the acts they do, not because you agree with them or tribalism. it’s because you have been programmed to think that way. Social Programming…. It’s not a new invention.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Yes, I am el presidente of the tea party mrs. heavily medicated.

            I came up with every policy they stand for.

            In fact, I drew every single poster from the tea party that you get your self righteous little panties in a bunch over.

            Sarcasm….

            Even if all of that was true ignorance, what the heck would you do about it? Whine like a child about it?

            You certainly won’t change my mind with your lies, double standards, arrogant tribal hypocrisy and blindness.

            Trying to “convert” me back to being a naive little effeminate white liberal? Not workin.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            No, I just wanted you to tell the truth. Your argument is for a political agenda. further proof of social programming.

            When you get angry BOB, you stop deflecting. not a good move for a Tea Partier. It’s goes against all your principles. “Lie, Blame Obama, use facts, these are all Tea Party NO Nos :)

            Beside, you are just as “naive little effeminate white person on the conservative side”. The only different is you embrace hate now.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Yes, I embrace whatever you say ignorance,

            that’s what you do…

            you dislike someone’s opinion and that makes them full of “hate” in your simple little world.

            Disagreement is not disagreement it’s “hate”.

            Tribalism for all groups is fantastic, but when whites do it, it’s somehow magically “hate”.

            When blacks, mexicans, asians, jews, arabs look out for their interests, it’s commendable and understandable, but when whites do it it’s “hate”.

            You are a tool ignorance. A real corker. I rarely meet people so blatantly hypocritical.

            LOL. You even say I have “a political agenda.” There you go with the mudslinging again.

            Oh, and you don’t have a political agenda? So does obama, bush, mayor daley, feinstein, boxer, mccain, and millions of others. Why is this a problem for you if I have a political “agenda”? Who do you think you are, the thought police?

            I’ll tell you why. Because you’re a left wing fascist. You want to silence dissent.

            This quote so fits you. It’s from William F Buckley:

            “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”

            Its called freedom of speech….freedom of thought….a free flow of ideas.

            You cannot handle it. You command that others back away from their beliefs. Why? Because you are a control freak and a fascist.

            I have no problem knowing there are hypocritical liars like you out their with their shallow beliefs. Its no big deal.

            However, it truly bothers you to know that there are people out here like me that have opinions that you don’t like.

            You’re no different than lenin, stalin, mao, and pol pot….it’s just you haven’t gotten around to murdering those that have different opinions than yourself yet.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            BS,

            1. I sat here and argue with you about tribalism. The only thing you offered was generalizations and deflections.

            2. I read all your idea and asked questions in the beginning. I even read argument you have had with other people to understand what you were trying to say.

            3. I offer a different opinion of what I though was going on. “Social Programming” which is a far better idea and i offer a solution to fix this ongoing issue. Much more than you did.

            4. I provided links and cited my information. You provided maybe 2 and a yahoo answer link, I mean really?

            5. When you started trying to make tribalism and racism one and the same, I debunk that BS. what really annoyed me about this part of the argument was that you said their was no racism and there was only tribalism. Which means you are oking racism. In fact you are oking all hate acts regardless of any color. You are aid death without even knowing the cause or why an issue has risen. You believe oppression is ok. You are for injustice because of skin color. Your argument was ludicrous and I called it.

            6. Someone added a Racist site to the argument, When I argued that the site was a racist and there for bias, you jumped in and said it was tribalism. Once again oking racism.

            7. You have change your definition of tribalism several times throughout the argument with me and robynbukins

            8. You did not once, try to understand social programming or ask questions.

            9. When I said the tea party was racist you could not bring anything to the table to prove me wrong but generalizations. In fact everything you argued has been mostly a generalizations or deflections. Not only with me but others as well.

            10. When I pointed out flaws in your idea you could not argue them.

            11. You can’t even answer questions.

            12. You fight for a party and you don’t even know what they represent Or how factions of the Tea Party that use hate for political means. You can even bring up an example of the Tea Party going against minority hate.

            13. And worst of all your are a hypocrite calling others a hypocrite, It’s kind of funny.

            14. In all my argument beside the ones with the Tea Party, I have made the statement “No ALL”, so and so are whatever the argument was about. You on the other hand BOB, have generalized everyone at times than in other statements say generalizing whites was wrong. “Hypocritical” !?!

            You are BS, BOB and It is not I who lost the arguments here. Everyone can read your BS and decide for themselves. FYI freedom of speech does not mean freedom from reprisal. Meaning you ideas are pure BS just like the Tea Party. :) You are the one promoting murder. You allow hate crimes by pitching hate and acceptance of hate. People like you are just as responsible for the death of a teens as people like Dan savage telling people to kill other because of skin color. You sat on the shoulders of Dunn as he pumped shots into the car of the unarmed teens that playing their music. People like you sat in the jury during the Zimmerman verdict. People like your are responsible for these idiots actions.

            Later BOB, Big idea my A..

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance says

            “FYI freedom of speech does not mean freedom from reprisal.”

            Typical left wing fascist threat. You disagree with me, I will harm you physically. How deep.

            Then you bleat on about me promoting murder.

            You’re a real hoot. Hypocrite.

            Go read a book on ethnocentrism and tribalism ignorance. You will find you are wrong on most of your views about politics and why people behave the way they do.

            “Social programming” is nothing but left wing psychobabble meant to attack whites and make them feel guilty for stuff they didn’t do. It explains nothing about the tribal conflict between:

            -indians and pakistanis
            -arabs and jews
            -irish and english
            -chinese and japanese
            -chinese and southeast asians
            -blacks and indians in guyana
            -blackfeet indians vs crow

            or any other tribal conflicts around the world.

            My insights will predict outcomes of how people react in these conflict areas.

            Your anti-white, western, left wing psycho babble only “works” for laying all blame for all the world’s problems on europeans. ……which is a bs idea in itself.

            Explain to the readers here how your “social programming” psychobabble pertains to those conflict areas listed above..

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            More Bs, i am done with arguing you.

            You do know you that the only hypocrite on this page at the moment.

            Bye BOB, have fun hating minorities and living in a hate filled life.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Yes, that’s me. I don’t hate my fellow white people. I stand by my tribe. Just like blacks stand up for other blacks….like hispanics stand up for their tribe……like asians stand up for their tribe.

            I stand up for my tribe….like everyone else does, and that makes me “evil”.

            OK ignorance, have it your way. I’m evil because I act like the majority of humanity.

            But being labelled “evil”, or any other name doesn’t faze me one bit.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorant,

            I didn’t need to do anything but disprove your LIE.

            You said “Actually, White on white crime really is not reported”

            And I proved you terribly, pathetically, desperately wrong in all of 60 seconds.

            How many times must you be proven wrong before you own up to being a liar?

            Yet you accuse fox of lying? How unfrigginbelievable. You are a sad, sad joke.

            Who made you a liar ignorance? Was it white people that did it?

            Is it the “history of 7% of whites owning slaves” that caused you to be a fraud and a liar?

            Is it white “oppression” that causes you to go to message boards and blatantly lie about others?

            It is white people that cause you to act in such a dishonorable, disgusting, and deceitful way?

            Or, are you just a liar because you are a liar? White people’s fault, or yours? That is the question.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, that’s a you and your tribalism. I see you deflected once again.

            Bob you are great at avoiding things you should be a politician:)

            I didn’t fail at showing fox lies, you seen the links before Disqes delete them.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Where are the links showing fox has lied and been proven to be lying in a court of law????

            ?

            ?

            ?

            ?

            ?

            ?

            ?

            ?

            You cannot provide the links because you lied. Why must you lie to try to get people to listen to your nonsense? Doesn’t that say something about your viewpoint and your credibility?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Booo, you seen them! Nice try, look them up now or tell disqse to stop deleting my links.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Nobody is deleting links. There are no links because you cannot prove your point.

            Fox has not been found to be lying in a court of laws as you allege.

            You’re a liar, and an ideological fraud.

        • Ignorance is not bliss

          Aren’t the racist people in florida running around shooting people. You must have missed all that while you were admiring the BS racist site, Social Programming. friend..

          Once again, not all white are racist, just as not all blacks are racist. Only in your BS definition of Tribalism defines everyone as racist. Which is not true. Well besides the tea Party. Let me clarify when i say Tea Party I mean the Tea Party only not all Reps or every right winger.

  • Bexcee

    It’s Valentines Day. The day that Frederick Douglass chose to be his birth day. Such a wise man with great determination and spirit. This is my favorite speech of his. So sad he had to choose a day because he didn’t know what his birthday was. Break up of family is a culture killer. Slave owners, neighborhoods or Govt are no substitute for Fathers who protect, provide and sacrifice their wants for their own family’s provision because ‘its the right thing to do’. We can see that across American today in the neighborhoods, jails, rehabs, dysfunctional families, sexual abuse/physical abuse/perversion in younger and younger ages, in the media/arts/corrupt govt/lawbreakers/ schools, etc. Generational fatherlessness is not what keeps civilized society functioning. http://t.co/0QJ2kagBM5

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      Social programming, scroll down I have already killed this argument :) Thanks for helping my argument. Bob please take a lot at this, Prime example of social programming. A site primarily to hate blacks. This it has no mention of any white crimes or white mobs. This site does not talk about all the senseless killing done by whites using the ” stand your ground laws”. The site does talk about people being shot because of their races, police injustice or racial profiling. It just hate by the Tea Party. Search the site. Glenn Beck is a Co owner or co writer . Does this site fit in to your theory of tribalizm? It does in Social Programming. Many of those that go to this site are those that have no contact with anyone outside of their race. (did I say that before?) This is a pure hate site. “http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/” THX Bexcee

      • Bob Sten

        ignorance,

        There are lots of websites, blogs, etc, that preach contempt and disdain (aka “hate” in your book) for white people.

        Again, this is tribalism.

        If the alleged anti-black websites are bad, why aren’t the anti-white ones equally bad in your view?

        Both types of sites are nothing more than tribalism. While I may disagree with their content, I think both types of groups have a right to have their opinions.

        You, in typical hypocritical left wing fashion…..think your opponents should be silenced, but your allies should be given free reign.

        You are the hypocrite here yet again.

        For example, I think fox and msnbc (opposing sides) should both be allowed to operate…..you no doubt, would prefer to silence fox news, but not msnbc.

        The hypocrisy of liberals never ends. I know. I used to be far left (communist). After seeing the duplicity on so many issues from the left, I became more conservative. It is people like you that killed my liberalism ignorance. Pat yourself on the back for that.

        • Ignorance is not bliss

          LOL do you really what you write? You really have no Idea what you are talking about do you?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            1. When I was speaking about White Girl bleeds a lot a “racist site”. I also pointed out. THERE ARE NO SITES THAT ONLY SHOW WHITE ON BLACK CRIME OR WHITE ON WHITE CRIME. ONCE AGAIN SOCIAL PROGRAMMING. Views that distort or mold reality. Kind of like how you are trying to use tribalism. “Social Programming”

            People like you and Glenn Beck who owns the site and contributes. Want to pass this BS. You want to know racism, divide racism or race relations. Why do you hate minorities so much BOB?

            Tea partier logic, WOW. They shout “We not racist, then post the most racist BS…… LOL since 2009 Tea Partiers have use racism to gain members. This in not tribalism, it’s social programming BOB. It’s been going on for along time.

            2. LOL hypocritical left wing???? Guess What I have example of YOUR parties BS on this page:) If you can’t prove your points BOB it’s not worth making them. If you can’t argue your points BOB, why redirect when being question about them?

            3. Fox Lies.
            How many times has every other news station been in court for LYING compared to FOX? You don’t know because you don’t do research. Do you know how many time FOX has been in court for lying ? Do you know why fox is allowed to lie? Did you know FOX gets paid to sell you false facts? How many other station do that? you do not know do you.

            4. Stop with all the generalized BS answers. You are not fooling anyone.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            1. Tribalism. Nothing more, nothing less

            2. Yes, hypocritical. I have you pegged. You want to silence only those you disagree with, fascist.

            3. Fox has been proven in a court of law to be lying many times?

            Give me links to ANYTHING BUT THIS COURT CASE….WHICH CLEARLY SHOW THAT FOX WAS NOT FOUND GUILTY OF LYING.

            http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120101094156AABdQ7y

            Please, I am begging you. Show me the court cases where fox was found guilty of lying…. do it! Do it!!!!!

            Show me

            Show me

            Show me

            If you can’t, you have proven yet again, you are the liar here.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            It’s was there. LOL you bring a link from yahoo answers LOL! i gave you to much credit when I said you were smart LOL. That’s way to much ammo for me to capitalize on. I feel bad just thinking about using it.

            You haven’t pegged anything you are a relic for the stone ages that want racism to stay alive

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Yep, tribalism is alive and well. That’s OK by me. Especially if it’s for my tribe. I didn’t make the world the way it is, I just follow what I see everywhere.

            You failed to prove fox lied.

            Where are your links to the court cases where fox allegedly lied???

            Show me

            Show me liar

            Show me

            You can’t because, like bush, you lied!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Own it!

          • Voice Of Reason

            Because white on white and white on black crime os so low.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance says:

            “LOL do you ready what you write?”

            That would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic.

  • Ignorance is not bliss

    http://thegrio.com/2014/02/14/uclas-black-law-students-struggle-with-lack-of-diversity/#.Uv6MMpks-ak.twitter black students attending the UCLA School of Law participated in a video, sharing what their experiences have been like attending a mostly white college.

  • Ignorance is not bliss

    Thats all BS.

  • robynbuckins

    who cares Bob you still at it.. get a life…hashahahaha

  • robynbuckins

    hahahahaha OMG you made my day .. thank you sweetie..

  • Bob Sten

    robyn,

    So how do you want this remedied? Have white taxpayers WHOSE ANCESTORS NEVER OWNED SLAVES pay people who never were slaves?

    That’s justice in your eyes?

    Do you want white people to stop going to college for 100 years, and have taxpayers pay for all black people to go to college? Do you think this would remedy things, and black people would finally take responsibility for themselves after 100 years of doing this?

    It’s clear that you want to penalize white people somehow, and reward black people somehow, so please provide me the specifics of how you would remedy what happened a couple of hundred years ago…….

    • robynbuckins

      Now it’s the Chinese let me give you a history lesson with respect to that….

    • robynbuckins

      Even though Asian immigrants have high poverty rates, American born Asians have mov into professional positions and as a whole has moved closest to economic parity with whites (median income of Asians in certain circumstances are higher than Whites), glass ceilings still persists and as Wen Ho Lee, The Chinese-American nuclear scientist who was falsely accused of espionage in 2002 found out, Asians are still defined by race and branded as perpetual foreigners.

      • Bob Sten

        robyn,

        Does your whining ever end? You are a broken record.

        Asians and indians both make more on average than whites in the US.

        Period!!

        You cannot refute it.

        • robynbuckins

          Merry go round and round Bob “tribalism” has nothing to do with structural racism.. well maybe it does

          • Bob Sten

            robyn,

            How many times must I say this? There is no such thing as racism. Only tribalism.

            Blacks are tribal, so are mexicans, and asians, and pretty much every group.

            Now, you want to talk about structural tribalism TODAY?

            Where is the structural tribalism today? Whites favoring other whites? Jews favoring other jews? Blacks favoring other blacks? Hispanics favoring hispanics? How is this “structural”?

            How is any of that “structural”? Define what you mean by “structural” tribalism….

          • robynbuckins

            Bob and that’s why you can’t understand what I am saying.. you are blind and in obvious denial. and it’s useless talking to you…if you can’t understand how the the systems of oppression and privilege interconnect and how the systems of inequality are maintained as oppression through the role of social institutions language and at times violence.. THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER.. you truly need to open your eyes to the world.. Racism is about behavior OKAY… it is learned..

          • Bob Sten

            robyn,

            You said “if you can’t understand how the the systems of oppression and privilege interconnect and how the systems of inequality are maintained as oppression through the role of social institutions language and at times violence.”

            Why do all these alleged things not happen to asians or indians in america? They aren’t white after all.

            You’ve never answered this question.

            Why do some groups succeed and others don’t?

            If not being white is such an alleged handicap, how are asians and indians unfazed?

          • robynbuckins

            Tribalism has no place in this discussion. If anything, it is ethnocentrism that you refer to but that doesn’t mean that racism doesn’t exist.

          • Bob Sten

            What is the different between ethnocentrism and so called “racism” in your book robyn?

          • robynbuckins

            well Bob I see that you back to insults.. that’s typically what happens when a persons experiencing
            DISSONANCE and really doesn’t have any GET BACK (as my children say)… hahahahaha

          • robynbuckins

            Again: A fundamental component in examining constructions of difference and systems of inequality is *critical thinking* about the social constructs on which systems of inequality rely. In order to do this you must be able to identify and challenge assumptions, in particular YOUR OWN; you must have awareness of your place and time in your culture because when asking questions about aspects of culture, you need to be aware of your own standpoint; otherwise you SEE NOTHING ELSE; you must be able to search for alternative ways of thinking even if it brings you DISSONANCE; and last but not least you must be able to reflect on your analysis.. For the entire time you and I have been on this merry go around.. I have cut and past all your responses in order that I might take a look more critically in what you say IN ORDER TO see the world through your eyes because at first glance if most people think like you…. we are in the world of trouble when it comes to others’ reality in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA… BLESS UP

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          • robynbuckins

            what isn’t real is reverse racism.. hahaha

          • Bob Sten

            There isn’t racism or so called reverse racism.

            There is just tribalism

          • robynbuckins

            and if racism didn’t exist .. you wouldn’t advocate and spread your stereotypical beliefs about other groups

          • Bob Sten

            robyn,

            All whites are guilty of some imaginary crime in your mind. Don’t talk to me about stereotyping.

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    • robynbuckins

      also with respect to the Irish (your earlier comment) they never face legal prohibitions on asset ownership and citizenship as Chinese, African Americans and Hispanics…

      • Bob Sten

        robyn,

        Go read about irish history. They were prevented from all kinds of asset ownership in ireland by the english. So you are ignorant about that too.

    • robynbuckins

      oh yeah I forgot Native Americans should have been included ..

      • Bob Sten

        I am of Choctaw descent too. You don’t need to speak to me of native american history. I likely know more about it than you do.

    • robynbuckins

      see what you fail to take into consideration is the different histories of these groups with respect to America.. but yet you attempt to compare one group’s success or failures in an attempt to prove that African-Americans are not oppressed and that racism doesn’t exists… blacks faced subprime lending even when their income was the same as whites and did not have debt… yet you continue on…. it’s ridiculous Bob. I’m not attempting to absolve individuals of their personal responsibility and accountability but hell you act as if 400 years of legalized discrimination has somehow magically disappeared and you somehow seem to think the playing field is equal… you fail to connect the historical aspects to many of the issues that African Americans face that still persist today.. I’m talking structural (institutional racism).. IT EXISTS BOB and whether you know it or not it does and can have an effect on the psychologically functioning of a group that us portrayed as immoral, monsters, criminals, ignorant and on and on and on.. not to mention folks such as yourself who continually perpetuate these stereotypes.. and then have the nerve to tell African-Americans that their reality is not the truth.. they are doing all to themselves… oooooowwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee….

    • robynbuckins

      and btw I’m not proofreading what I just wrote.. I’m tired.. I’m going to feed my husband and watch the NBA all-star game.. BTW I remember when Blacks game into the NBA and white America labeled them all as thugs.. drug dealers… hahahahaha how’s that for reality…

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  • Bob Sten

    robyn,

    Your tribalism blinds you to many things, especially the successes of other so called minority groups and the failures of your own tribe. You live in this fairy tale land of scapegoating white people…..believing there is this vast conspiracy of white people to oppress blacks and hispanics, but somehow these conspiratorial white oppressors let asians and indians become wealthy…..even wealthier than whites themselves.

    These conspiratorial white oppressors even created so called affirmative action to give preference to blacks over whites in government jobs, college entrance lower requirements, easier access to home loans, small business loans, and a whole host of other giveaways. What kind of crummy conspirators whites must be to pass these kinds of laws?

    I am mostly white, and I can tell you without a doubt, most whites don’t ever think or obsess about black people the way you pretend they do. Most whites just go about their daily lives trying to make ends meet. Not some vast conspiracy in the least.

    Two thousand years from now, many blacks will likely be blaming others for their misfortunes in the US (just like black people do in guyana….blaming indians for their problems). If there aren’t many whites around, they will probably be blaming asians or indians or some other successful groups that out-compete them. I know it’s uncomfortable for you to hear, but it’s the truth.

    To say that whites have perpetually benefited from this or that is a stretch. Families go through successful and not so successful times in different generations.

    There were many middle class black families in the 1940’s, and 1950’s, that are now poverty stricken, living paycheck to paycheck. Is this because of slavery? Hardly. Similarly, there are many white families that were middle class in the same era, but today also live in poverty, living paycheck to paycheck.

    Whites don’t blame the past for this, or another race of people. Black people like you do. It is much easier to scapegoat whites than to take responsibility for your own decisions and mistakes in life apparently.

    Families that were once extremely wealthy, have lost everything. Fortunes are made and lost in every generation. Along those lines, black home ownership rates declined when blacks moved from the south to the north (both blacks and whites were less likely to own homes in the cities). Similarly, both black and white home ownership declined during the depression.

    You act as though every single white person was a lawyer, accountant, doctor, etc, with lots of property, and lots of wealth. This is absurd. Many whites in the early 1900’s, lived in squalid conditions, in tenements without a dime to their names. Working in dangerous conditions in factories, where the factory owners could fire them on a whim and choose from hundreds of others that were willing to take the job for even less money. They weren’t wealthy building machines in the least.

    In this Forbes article (it’s written by a black person, so you can go ahead and read it), the author also speaks about a wealth disparity because blacks don’t buy stocks like whites do. Why don’t they? According to the author, part of it is the tribalism I speak of. The author thinks there are too “few” black people working in investment houses and for brokers, so other blacks won’t buy stocks. Sounds pretty tribal to me!

    The author also speaks about lower property values in black neighborhoods. Why? Who wants to live around people that are more likely to commit murder, etc (See the title story of the thread we are on). Admit it robyn, would you rather live in a neighborhood that was 95% black, or 95% asian, or 95% hispanic, or 95% white?

    Is it white people’s fault that many black neighborhoods don’t want to be lived in by whites, blacks, or asians?

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesleadershipforum/2012/12/10/how-home-ownership-keeps-blacks-poorer-than-whites/

    You cannot get to the future being so obsessed with the past. The japanese, chinese and others have MOVED ON and are more successful now than white gentiles in this country.

    If you want your tribe to succeed, do two things:

    1. emulate asians and indians

    2. stop begging for whites to not be tribal. Every group is tribal and this is the norm. Groups compete against one another around the globe. Asians and indians can compete successfully in the individual and tribal arena…..so can blacks, if you start looking towards the future instead of living in the past. I know it’s easier to blame others for the problems of your tribe, but it won’t make your people succeed.

    If you disagree, please explain to me why you think blacks are incapable of emulating the success of indians and asians.

  • King David

    actually the article is actually saying young black men are convicted 14 times more than young white men. For example Michael Dunn he was convicted of attempted murder of 3 boys he was shooting at, but the 4th boy that he shot and killed, the jury was hung on for some reason as to whether or not that was murder. Since this guy wasn’t convicted of murder and may as well never be, it won’t show up in the white stats, same for Zimmerman.

    I’m don’t understand how you can shoot at 4 teens, be guilty of attempted murder of the 3 you didn’t kill, but the one you did kill, its not clearly murder. That makes no sense at all. These jurors and the system is highly corrupted. The stats are corrupted.

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      Thank you for the voice of reason. Once again BOB social programming, Not tribalism BS.

    • Voice Of Reason

      Actually, there are more murders and murder investigations in the African American neighborhoods discounting arrests. This can attest to the amount of gun shot and stabbing victims being admitted to hospital trauma units in the black neighboirhoods compared to white areas. Ask any homicide detective or trauma surgeon in any major American city where there is more incidences of murders and violence.

  • LeCalabro

    50 years ago or so blacks were not doing what lots o young blacks afre doing today. Who indoctrinated you into hating whites and blaming them for all of YOUR troubles.,

    • robynbuckins

      So back your statement up.. hahahahaha .. and I have serious doubts about your IQ …Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. Martin Luther King, Jr.
      Indeed!

      • RWR4TX

        You say that over and over. You do not think for yourself, but quote other idiots. The fact that you accuse others of possessing this attribute is a well-documented psychological self-defense mechanism known as “projection.” You can say what you like, but readers of this thread can see overwhelming evidence of this fact.

    • robynbuckins

      Try this LeCalabro: Middle-class whites learn to fear African-American and Latinos, but most violent crime occurs within poor and minority communities and it is neither inter-racial or inter-class. As horrid as such crime is, it should not mask the destruction and violence perpetuated by corporate America. African Americans (typically urban Blacks) are depicted as welfare cheats, drug addicts and greedy panhandlers compared to the images of the middle-class (usually white) as “tax evaders”, celebrities who have a “chemical dependency” or wealthy business people who use unscrupulous means “to make a profit”.. While the behavior of the more affluent offenders is considered an “impropriety” and a deviation from the norm, the behavior of the poor is considered repugnant, indicative of the poor in general, and worthy of our indignation and resentment.

      • LeCalabro

        Some of us see hitting someone over the head with a crowbar a little more serious than picking your pocket by inflating prices in a store.

      • RWR4TX

        That is merely due to proximity. When blacks creep into white neighborhoods, the crime rate soars.

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  • Ignorance is not bliss

    BOB, I can’t argue with you. You have be programmed to the point you think racism is ok. You are so desperate to make racism ok and to feel better about being racist you have tried to make up BS and pass it as something else. Racism is racism BOB, People are not born racist, racist are made.

    Social Programming over the years has made racism institutionalized. It has nothing to do with tribalism.

    Tell your Tea Party friends I said hi

    • Bob Sten

      ignorance,

      Tell the tea party I said “hi”?

      What?

      I invented the tea party, just like gore invented the internet.

      Talking to the tea party is simply talking to myself.

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        :)

  • Bob Sten

    All these left wing idiots that say that whites aren’t victims.

    Really? Do some research….

    http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/muslim-rape-wave/

  • zillaouch

    I just finished watching a couple of documentaries about how gangs got started in Los Angeles. One of them is called Bastards of the Party and was put together by a former gang member named Cle ‘Bone’ Sloan. I take the title of this blog from something he said in his movie. Paraphrased, he said that from 1965 to 1971 blacks in Los Angeles went from calling each other brother to saying kill that nigga. His question was how did that happen?

    What Sloan goes on to explain is that gangs such as the Slausons, the Business Men, and the Farmers all but ceased activity at one time because most gangs were drafted into political parties such as The Black Panther Party for Self Defense or the Organization Us. They developed a new sense of pride because they actually had stood up to the William H. Parker’s LAPD and The National Guard for five days in what they called an uprising but the rest of the world calls the 1965 Los Angeles Riots. 34 people were killed during those riots and most of them were shot by the police or the National Guard.

    Yet, in five years these new proud African Americans will go from being unified to what we know as the Bloods and the Crips. They went from being brothers to killing each other. 15,000 deaths later, many Americans still do not know how these two “bastard children of the political parties of the 60’s” came about. Some of them would be shocked to find out about how the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover used COINTELPRO to destroy the Panthers and cause strife between the BPP and US. I do not think they would agree with Hoover’s assessment of the BPP’s “Breakfast for children” program needing to be destroyed to neutralize the BPP. They would not know that the FBI sent death threats to the two groups in the name of the other, arrested, beat, and killed members under the direct order of the Hoover. Geronimo Pratt spent 27 years in prison for a murder he did not commit.

    They probably heard the story of Alprentice “Bunchy” Carter and how he was killed at UCLA, but I bet they never heard the FBI agent say that Bunchy was supposed to die in a drug deal a week earlier but that it was fouled up. He went on to say that there was a provocateur that caused the argument at UCLA that night that killed Bunchy.

    They would find it hard to believe that the original word CRIPS stands for Creative Revolutionary InterPlanetary Service. That this group of young men really wanted to take the part of the BPP but that Mayor Tom Bradley’s office made them change Revolutionary to Reform and then started trying to teach them to live within the system instead of change it.

    However, it would all be true and that is not even the worse part of it. They would probably be aghast to find out that Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Oliver North supported the sale by the Sandinistas of Nicaragua of drugs to a street dealer named ‘Freeway’ Ricky Ross who turned it into Crack and created one of the largest and most destructive drug epidemics in American history. The CIA’s main drug dealer was a guy by the name of Danilo Blandon who now works for the DEA and only spent three years in prison while Ross has served 13 years of a lifetime sentence. Of course they all remember Iran-Contra.

    Ross recruited Bloods and Crips who distributed his product throughout Los Angeles. Americans would be appalled that Sloan and his clique could go to Western Surplus at this time and buy 20 or 30 AK47s and the shells without waiting a grace period. They would buy cars to do drive-bys and shoot Crips on sight. This did not matter to the national media though until a little Asian girl got killed near UCLA in a gang shooting. 15,000 black men died in this war and the national media barely mentioned them. The police did not care either. One UCLA student is killed and the every paper in the country has the story and the LAPD now has a gang war. They have the right to arrest, harass, and shoot young men who they needed off the streets.

    I am sure that if the average American knew this they would be angry and ask for answers from government and those who helped perpetrate this genocide or would they? If 15000 people were killed in Sarajevo or somewhere on foreign soil one movie said, there would be committees and people investigating those deaths. Why hasn’t anyone been held accountable for the US government’s systematic destruction of African Americans in Los Angeles? Most Americans know why.

  • zillaouch@gmail.com

    I just finished watching a couple of documentaries about how gangs got started in Los Angeles. One of them is called Bastards of the Party and was put together by a former gang member named Cle ‘Bone’ Sloan. I take the title of this blog from something he said in his movie. Paraphrased, he said that from 1965 to 1971 blacks in Los Angeles went from calling each other brother to saying kill that nigga. His question was how did that happen?

    What Sloan goes on to explain is that gangs such as the Slausons, the Business Men, and the Farmers all but ceased activity at one time because most gangs were drafted into political parties such as The Black Panther Party for Self Defense or the Organization Us. They developed a new sense of pride because they actually had stood up to the William H. Parker’s LAPD and The National Guard for five days in what they called an uprising but the rest of the world calls the 1965 Los Angeles Riots. 34 people were killed during those riots and most of them were shot by the police or the National Guard.

    Yet, in five years these new proud African Americans will go from being unified to what we know as the Bloods and the Crips. They went from being brothers to killing each other. 15,000 deaths later, many Americans still do not know how these two “bastard children of the political parties of the 60’s” came about. Some of them would be shocked to find out about how the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover used COINTELPRO to destroy the Panthers and cause strife between the BPP and US. I do not think they would agree with Hoover’s assessment of the BPP’s “Breakfast for children” program needing to be destroyed to neutralize the BPP. They would not know that the FBI sent death threats to the two groups in the name of the other, arrested, beat, and killed members under the direct order of the Hoover. Geronimo Pratt spent 27 years in prison for a murder he did not commit.

    They probably heard the story of Alprentice “Bunchy” Carter and how he was killed at UCLA, but I bet they never heard the FBI agent say that Bunchy was supposed to die in a drug deal a week earlier but that it was fouled up. He went on to say that there was a provocateur that caused the argument at UCLA that night that killed Bunchy.

    They would find it hard to believe that the original word CRIPS stands for Creative Revolutionary InterPlanetary Service. That this group of young men really wanted to take the part of the BPP but that Mayor Tom Bradley’s office made them change Revolutionary to Reform and then started trying to teach them to live within the system instead of change it.

    However, it would all be true and that is not even the worse part of it. They would probably be aghast to find out that Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Oliver North supported the sale by the Sandinistas of Nicaragua of drugs to a street dealer named ‘Freeway’ Ricky Ross who turned it into Crack and created one of the largest and most destructive drug epidemics in American history. The CIA’s main drug dealer was a guy by the name of Danilo Blandon who now works for the DEA and only spent three years in prison while Ross has served 13 years of a lifetime sentence. Of course they all remember Iran-Contra.

    Ross recruited Bloods and Crips who distributed his product throughout Los Angeles. Americans would be appalled that Sloan and his clique could go to Western Surplus at this time and buy 20 or 30 AK47s and the shells without waiting a grace period. They would buy cars to do drive-bys and shoot Crips on sight. This did not matter to the national media though until a little Asian girl got killed near UCLA in a gang shooting. 15,000 black men died in this war and the national media barely mentioned them. The police did not care either. One UCLA student is killed and the every paper in the country has the story and the LAPD now has a gang war. They have the right to arrest, harass, and shoot young men who they needed off the streets.

    I am sure that if the average American knew this they would be angry and ask for answers from government and those who helped perpetrate this genocide or would they? If 15000 people were killed in Sarajevo or somewhere on foreign soil one movie said, there would be committees and people investigating those deaths. Why hasn’t anyone been held accountable for the US government’s systemzatic destruction of African Americans in Los Angeles? Most Americans know why.

  • zillaouch@gmail.com

    I just finished watching a couple of documentaries about how gangs got started in Los Angeles. One of them is called Bastards of the Party and was put together by a former gang member named Cle ‘Bone’ Sloan. I take the title of this blog from something he said in his movie. Paraphrased, he said that from 1965 to 1971 blacks in Los Angeles went from calling each other brother to saying kill that nigga. His question was how did that happen?

    What Sloan goes on to explain is that gangs such as the Slausons, the Business Men, and the Farmers all but ceased activity at one time because most gangs were drafted into political parties such as The Black Panther Party for Self Defense or the Organization Us. They developed a new sense of pride because they actually had stood up to the William H. Parker’s LAPD and The National Guard for five days in what they called an uprising but the rest of the world calls the 1965 Los Angeles Riots. 34 people were killed during those riots and most of them were shot by the police or the National Guard.

    Yet, in five years these new proud African Americans will go from being unified to what we know as the Bloods and the Crips. They went from being brothers to killing each other. 15,000 deaths later, many Americans still do not know how these two “bastard children of the political parties of the 60’s” came about. Some of them would be shocked to find out about how the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover used COINTELPRO to destroy the Panthers and cause strife between the BPP and US. I do not think they would agree with Hoover’s assessment of the BPP’s “Breakfast for children” program needing to be destroyed to neutralize the BPP. They would not know that the FBI sent death threats to the two groups in the name of the other, arrested, beat, and killed members under the direct order of the Hoover. Geronimo Pratt spent 27 years in prison for a murder he did not commit.

    They probably heard the story of Alprentice “Bunchy” Carter and how he was killed at UCLA, but I bet they never heard the FBI agent say that Bunchy was supposed to die in a drug deal a week earlier but that it was fouled up. He went on to say that there was a provocateur that caused the argument at UCLA that night that killed Bunchy.

    They would find it hard to believe that the original word CRIPS stands for Creative Revolutionary InterPlanetary Service. That this group of young men really wanted to take the part of the BPP but that Mayor Tom Bradley’s office made them change Revolutionary to Reform and then started trying to teach them to live within the system instead of change it.

    However, it would all be true and that is not even the worse part of it. They would probably be aghast to find out that Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Oliver North supported the sale by the Sandinistas of Nicaragua of drugs to a street dealer named ‘Freeway’ Ricky Ross who turned it into Crack and created one of the largest and most destructive drug epidemics in American history. The CIA’s main drug dealer was a guy by the name of Danilo Blandon who now works for the DEA and only spent three years in prison while Ross has served 13 years of a lifetime sentence. Of course they all remember Iran-Contra.

    Ross recruited Bloods and Crips who distributed his product throughout Los Angeles. Americans would be appalled that Sloan and his clique could go to Western Surplus at this time and buy 20 or 30 AK47s and the shells without waiting a grace period. They would buy cars to do drive-bys and shoot Crips on sight. This did not matter to the national media though until a little Asian girl got killed near UCLA in a gang shooting. 15,000 black men died in this war and the national media barely mentioned them. The police did not care either. One UCLA student is killed and the every paper in the country has the story and the LAPD now has a gang war. They have the right to arrest, harass, and shoot young men who they needed off the streets.

    I am sure that if the average American knew this they would be angry and ask for answers from government and those who helped perpetrate this genocide or would they? If 15000 people were killed in Sarajevo or somewhere on foreign soil one movie said, there would be committees and people investigating those deaths. Why hasn’t anyone been held accountable for the US government’s systematic destruction of African Americans in Los Angeles? Most Americans know why.

  • Ryan

    I’m not a racist but I’m tired of the crap that is happening in this country. I believe that there should be equality, the only way that will happen is if all of this racist crap stops. No more all a single race schools and scholarships, more hands outs. Everyone has been give the same chance to succeed but not everyone has taken it.

  • B’Kubru Ning

    I find it utterly amazing how whites will lie themselves and others in regards to who is more violent. Every brutal dictator who murdered relentlessly is either Caucasian or Asian. Whites are the only race to war with every race on the planet; is this action of peaceful people? Everyone where these people go violence, chaos, and disease follows them. The worst mass murder is white as so in the second and so forth. These people murdered over 53 million native Americans in less 200 yrs. Only 2 million people who identify themselves as native survived. It took violence to achieve this feat. Lets also not forget the 11 million Africa people you also murdered. FACT: The most evil man in world is White; Adolf Hitler. FACT: The most peaceful person to walk the Earth is a man of color; Jesus Christ who had hair like wool and skin like “burned bronze”. Keep lying to yourself but so you know, no one believes you.

    • Kim Jong Un

      Wow your really full of yourself aren’t you, had to go back in time to prove your point, look at today, the whites have evolved, blacks have not. Talk about mass killing and genocide, What about Darfur and Rwanda those are both recent and perpetrated by blacks, Why is it the most dangerous cities in America are always the cities with the largest black populations.

    • Guest

      Somalia, Ghana or pretty much anywhere in Africa where there is current tribal genocide. Tell me where this is CURRENTLY happening in white culture?

      • Bill James

        He won’t respond to facts. Liberals and especially Blacks don’t regard facts as anything more than impediments to their endless whining about how oppressed they are.

        Notice how B’Kubru Ninja makes a comparison between DOJ statistics which prove that Blacks are the most violent race in America and WW2? Laughably absurd. And they always have to go back in history to dig up when Whites were as savage as some (too many) Blacks are TODAY.

    • Bill James

      You’re good at naming famous bad white people but apparently clueless about statistics, bro:

      http://www.fbi.gov 2011 Table 43: The Black crime rate for:
      -murder is 5 times more than Whites, 45 times more than Asians

      -rape is 4 times more than Whites, 27 more than Asians

      -robbery is 5 times more than Whites, 57 more than Asians

      -burglary is 4 times more than Whites, 34 more than Asians

      The future looks worse:
      -http://www.cdc.gov 2010 homicide rates of 10 to 24 year-olds: The Black rate was 18 times that of Whites and Asians.

      http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ipdf/cvus06.pdf Table 42, Violent Crime Rates by Race:
      -The Black-on-White rate was 35 times more than White-on-Black.

      -Black-on-White rape rate was 84; White-on-Black rape was statistically insignificant and listed as zero.

      “Criminal Victimization in the United States” DOJ Table 48, race of “multiple offender” (gangs) and their victim/s involved in violent crimes:

      -In 2005 Blacks committed 70 times more such crimes against Whites than Whites committed against Blacks.

      -In 2008 Blacks committed 147,749 such crimes against Whites; Whites committed ten against Blacks.

      -The DOJ stopped identifying the race of gang crime offenders in 2008. I can’t imagine why.

      -7/14/14
      http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/14/despite-recent-shootings-chicago-nowhere-near-u-s-murder-capital/ Flint, Mich. (56% Blacks) had the highest murder rate, 62 per 100,000 population in 2012; next was Detroit (83% Black) with a rate of 55; next was New Orleans (60% Black) with a rate of 53; next was Jackson, Miss. (80% Black) with a rate of 36.

      -6/6/2011
      http://www.businessinsider.com/safest-cities-in-america-2011-6?op=1 The lowest violent crime rate was in Irvine, CA which has a 2% Black population; next was Temecula, CA which has a 4% Black population; next was Cary, N. C. which has an 8% Black population; next was
      Marietta, CA which has a 5% Black population.

      The same picture presents itself, worldwide:

      -10/10/10 http://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/oct/11/black-prison-population-increase-england More black people jailed in England and Wales proportionally than in US. New study finds seven times more black people per population are in prison – in the US number is just four times as many.

      -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
      The murder rate per 100,000 population for Southern Africa is 30; for Northern America it is 4.2; for Europe it is 3.0.

      It’s getting harder for you to race pimp these days, isn’t it, bro? We’ve got the Internet today. You can run from the facts about your race,
      but you can no longer hide. We can even SEE how savage you can be, like these videos show. It’s as though you’re inventing new lows in
      human depravity. Google search “Black/s…
      …Teens Beat 89-Year-Old World War II Vet to Death ”

      …Teens Kill College Baseball Player For The Fun Of It.”

      …Teens Shoot White Mom, Kill White Baby”

      …Teens Douse White Boy 13, in Gas, Set Him On fire”

      …10 to 12 Black Juveniles Rape 2 Women”

      …Thugs Douse a Man With Gasoline and Set Him Afire”

      …Teen Beats and Rapes an Elderly Nun”

      …Father Bites Off the Nose of His Infant Boy”

      …Six Blacks Repeatedly Gang Rape Pregnant White Woman”

      Feeling stupid, bro? You should.

      12/3/93 The Baltimore Sun: Jesse Jackson admits: “I hate to admit it, but I have reached a stage in my life that if I am walking down a dark street late at night and I see that the person behind me is white, I subconsciously feel relieved.”

  • Sasha

    Everyone has a choice in life. I don’t see how ” Gangsta Thug Life” is the reason when America is in ruins. That’s simply a fraud statement. but I can say that Black on Black crime is not much highlighted in society. Not so much as denial. Nobody knows what goes in in the “hood” for them to judge. As for anyone like me that does know. Its killed or be killed, to those young men. I’m not saying its right, but certain situations, you have to do what you have to, to survive Now, how they get their guns is the big QUESTION. The government maybe ?

    • Bill James

      Screw your concern about Black on Black crime not “much highlighted.” How about highlighting this, bro?

      http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ipdf/cvus06.pdf Table 42, Violent Crime Rates by Race:
      -The Black-on-White rate was 35 times more than White-on-Black.

      -Black-on-White rape rate was 84; White-on-Black rape was statistically insignificant and listed as zero.

      “Criminal Victimization in the United States” DOJ Table 48, race of “multiple offender” (gangs) and their victim/s involved in violent crimes:
      -In 2005 Blacks committed 70 times more such crimes against
      Whites than Whites committed against Blacks.

      -In 2008 Blacks committed 147,749 such crimes against Whites; Whites committed ten against Blacks.

      -The DOJ stopped identifying the race of gang crime offenders in 2008. I can’t imagine why.
      “…and the horse you rode in on.”

  • Dennis Richardson

    Is that not interesting. WHY do the crimes rates of similar white men by age and economic background not commit such crimes as armed robbery, rape, assault, kidnapping, and general mayhem. Are not democratic party policies in government to blame? There will be no place to hide for most politicians on Judgement Day. Though republicans will not get a pass many are guilty of theft and Idolatry, the bigger account will be against democrats, who are the puppets of the bankers who enslave humanity. Family destruction is the democratic party plan of welfare mongers.

  • TiredOfTheExcuses

    I’m 35. I was never taught to see see the color of someone’s skin and judge them for it. But growing up in the Bay Area I didn’t have to be taught, I’ve seen it with my own eyes day in and day out. Most blacks refuse to take responsibility, they act trashy in public, use intimidation or the race card to get what they want, they beat up their kids, abuse animals, and live off the government. What we need to do is stop helping them. Let them kill each other, then maybe I could walk through the streets of Oakland like my grandparents did and not fear for my life.

  • concerned american

    Does staying away from black people make me racist? Don’t I have a better chance of survival by staying away from black people? I’ve been sucker punched on two separate occasions by black people. I’ve spent close to $40,000 out of my own pocket and well over $100,000 in medical bills paying off therapists. My buddy rolled his tank over a bleeding out black guy in combat for his guys to pull him out to safety. I’m helping looking out for my buddy when he gets back and then I’m sucker punched by a black guy. I don’t see any blacks helping me out now either. I can’t afford another traumatic brain injury.

    • Bill James

      http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ipdf/cvus06.pdf Table 42, Violent Crime Rates by Race:
      -The Black-on-White rate was 35 times more than White-on-Black.

      -Black-on-White rape rate was 84; White-on-Black rape was statistically insignificant and listed as zero.

      “Criminal Victimization in the United States” DOJ Table 48, race of “multiple offender” (gangs) and their victim/s involved in violent crimes:
      -In 2005 Blacks committed 70 times more such crimes against Whites than Whites committed against Blacks.

      -In 2008 Blacks committed 147,749 such crimes against Whites; Whites committed ten against Blacks.

      -7/14/14
      http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/14/despite-recent-shootings-chicago-nowhere-near-u-s-murder-capital/ Flint, Mich. (56% Blacks) had the highest murder rate, 62 per 100,000 population in 2012; next was Detroit (83% Black) with a rate of 55; next was New Orleans (60% Black) with a rate of 53; next was Jackson, Miss. (80% Black) with a rate of 36.

      -6/6/2011
      http://www.businessinsider.com/safest-cities-in-america-2011-6?op=1 The lowest violent crime rate was in Irvine, CA which has a 2% Black population; next was Temecula, CA which has a 4% Black population; next was Cary, N. C. which has an 8% Black population; next was Marietta, CA which has a 5% Black population.

      Only fools ignore such statistics. Only race pimps regard it as racist to respect such statistics and act upon them: in other words, stay away from cities with large Black populations. Follow Jesse Jackson’s advice and be cautious:
      -12/3/93 The Baltimore Sun: Jesse Jackson admits: “I hate to admit it, but I have reached a stage in my life that if I am walking down a dark street late at night and I see that the person behind me is white, I subconsciously feel relieved.”

      Thanks for your service.

  • RC Snipper

    of course, this isn’t true. go to FBI statistics and you’ll see it’s only about twice as much in youth. then once you get to age 30 white men murder twice as much as black men.

    • DeMarquise Elkins

      You FORGOT to calculate PER CAPITA from US population per race data.

    • RWR4TX

      Nice try dumb@$$, but everyone sees through your idiocy.

    • Kim Jong Un

      Only because by 30 most black men are in prison already.

      • Voice Of Reason

        or dead

    • Bill James

      Your problem, bro, is that you don’t understand simple numbers versus “rates.” A rate measures the occurence of an event per a certain number within a population. Here are some rates per 100,000 population for the crimes you Blacks commit:

      http://www.fbi.gov 2011 Table 43: The Black crime rate for:
      -murder is 5 times more than Whites, 45 times more than Asians

      -rape is 4 times more than Whites, 27 more than Asians

      -robbery is 5 times more than Whites, 57 more than Asians

      -burglary is 4 times more than Whites, 34 more than Asians

      The future looks worse:

      -http://www.cdc.gov 2010 homicide rates of 10 to 24 year-olds:
      The Black rate was 18 times that of Whites and Asians.

      http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ipdf/cvus06.pdf Table 42, Violent Crime Rates by Race:
      -The Black-on-White rate was 35 times more than White-on-Black.

      -Black-on-White rape rate was 84; White-on-Black rape was statistically insignificant and listed as zero.

      “Criminal Victimization in the United States” DOJ Table 48, race of “multiple offender” (gangs) and their victim/s involved in violent crimes:
      -In 2005 Blacks committed 70 times more such crimes against
      Whites than Whites committed against Blacks.

      -In 2008 Blacks committed 147,749 such crimes against Whites; Whites committed ten against Blacks.

      -The DOJ stopped identifying the race of gang crime offenders in 2008. I can’t imagine why.

      [Do you think snipper understood what I just said? Neither do I]

  • blackreality

    So if Blacks are so violent and no one can pinpoint the reason why or offer ways to fix this Black violence,then what should white people do with Black people as a solution?

  • RWR4TX

    Discrimination should be legal. It’s called freedom of association.

  • Shistang

    Bix nood?

  • bullwhip

    Around blacks, never relax. Always check your six, maintain situational awareness, pack heat. America is a war zone with those things on the the loose.

  • bullwhip

    Blacks are not human. They are vile beasts.

  • Moderated2

    14 X ……..thought it would be much higher.

  • Yourfatherwasyourmother

    maybe It has to do with crack

  • VAM

    Robyn thats all fine and dandy, the past is the past. What matters NOW is the murder rate. You CANT logically deny that. Instead of bringing up past wrongs by everyone of every color and this happened so now this happens, is ridiculous. Something needs to be DONE about it. We live in the now, with advances in education , technology, STOP making excuses.

    • Voice Of Reason

      Big Thumbs Up!

  • H Town Psych

    How weird that this article presents no data whatsoever. It is just a bunch of musings about why black people are so bad. P.S. dude, crack use and sales have been outrageously low since the 90s. Update your stereotypes.

    • Bill James

      How can anyone be so dense?
      http://www.fbi.gov 2011 Table 43: The Black crime rate for:
      -murder is 5 times more than Whites, 45 times more than Asians

      -rape is 4 times more than Whites, 27 more than Asians

      -robbery is 5 times more than Whites, 57 more than Asians

      -burglary is 4 times more than Whites, 34 more than Asians

      The future looks worse:
      -http://www.cdc.gov 2010 homicide rates of 10 to 24 year-olds:
      The Black rate was 18 times that of Whites and Asians.

      http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ipdf/cvus06.pdf Table 42, Violent Crime Rates by Race:
      -The Black-on-White rate was 35 times more than White-on-Black.

      -Black-on-White rape rate was 84; White-on-Black rape was statistically insignificant and listed as zero.

      “Criminal Victimization in the United States” DOJ Table 48, race of “multiple offender” (gangs) and their victim/s involved in violent crimes:
      -In 2005 Blacks committed 70 times more such crimes against Whites than Whites committed against Blacks.

      -In 2008 Blacks committed 147,749 such crimes against Whites; Whites committed ten against Blacks.

      -The DOJ stopped identifying the race of gang crime offenders in 2008. I can’t imagine why.

      But what race does the DOJ list as the most victimized in
      2014?
      -NCJ244409, Characteristics of Violent Hate Crime Victims: Blacks — 30% MORE than Whites.

      There’s a ton more, but I’m not wasting anymore of my time on you, bro.

  • Jajca Oba ma

    ech …USAŃCE jak na was patrzę to mi was tylko żal

  • KNOWSHIT

    For violent crime by race in 2011, 59.4% of those arrested were white, 38.3% were black, and 2.2% were of other races.[25] For persons arrested for homicide in 2011, 49.7% were black, 48% were white, and 2.3% were of other races.[25] For persons arrested for rape in 2011, 65% were white, 32.9% were black, and 2.1% were of other races.[25] For property crime in 2011, 68.1% of arrested persons were white, 29.5% were black, and 2.4% were of other races.[25]

    Blacks do not commit more violent crime than whites but when a black person is arrested for a violent crime it is usually murder

    The real FBI Stats

    • Bill James

      I can tell you flunked basic math.

      Simple percentages do not reflect the significance of Black or White crime. There are six time more Whites than Blacks in America, so there will naturally be more Whites committing crimes than Blacks. Got that? I doubt it, but I’ll proceed anyway.

      The only valid method of measuring racial differences is the rate of an something per a standard population of, say….

      Ah hell, why bother? Blacks don’t KNOWSHIT when it comes to math and they sure don’t care about facts which prove they’re the most dangerous race in America.

      8/7/13 newyorktimes.com “Striking gaps in achievement between black students in math, where 15% of black students passed compared with 60% of Asians passing.

    • Minnie Pearl

      Also keep in mind that the FBI Uniform Crime Report statistics from which those numbers are drawn, have 4 categories: Black, White, Asian/Pacific Islander, and American Indian/Alaskan Native: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf. The category of White includes Hispanics (nearly all), Arabs, Indian (from India) and just about everything else that doesn’t fall into the other categories.

      One might ask why the FBI continues to conflate the race issue and not give Hispanics their own category, but the motive is obvious: they can mask a multitude of sins, primarily to make Black crime appear more even with White crime (and keep in mind that Blacks are a small 13% demographic and even with Hispanics included as Whites the statistic is grossly imbalanced).

      And, if one looks at the “Hate Crimes” categories one will find that there IS a Hispanic category (ethnicity) for victim: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2012/tables-and-data-declarations/1tabledatadecpdf/table_1_incidents_offenses_victims_and_known_offenders_by_bias_motivation_2012.xls. Therefore, for a Hispanic on Hispanic crime (one motivated by race like one gang member from Guatemala hating another from Honduras) one can technically be a Hispanic victim but not a Hispanic victimizer because, even if the victimizer is Hispanic, he will still be deemed White: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2012/topic-pages/offenders/offenders_final.

      So, the books are stacked against Whitey until we drive the political correctness liars from our government and start reporting honestly.

      Nothing will improve until our statistics are honest and deceivers like Jesse Jackson are stopped in their tracks when making such outrageous claims like this morning’s: “It seems to me that when blacks kill whites, which is rare, it’s swift justice. When whites kill blacks, it’s rebellion.”

      Umm, Blacks killing Whites is rare? How about 5-15 times (depending on the source) more likely for a Black to kill a White than a White to kill a Black, and Blacks being only 13% of the population? They lie! http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ben-carson-battles-jesse-jackson-ferguson-has-nothing-to-do-with-race/

  • Captain Obvious

    RobynBupkis — I am so amused running across someone like this. It appears Robyn (and similar) will continue to deny facts presented and will attempt to convince the viewing audience with their pseudo intellect . They pontificate endlessly in defense of their own kind and own position – Robyn stop closing your eyes and mind to the frequency of what is repeatedly observed by others on a regular basis. …but try he must as if he really thinks he will convince others that his “position” is right and everyone else does not know what they are talking about. Maybe this too is a part of the urban community problem, The truth is sometimes quite painful so deny, deny, deny in the hopes the facts will just go away.

  • jhpoland

    Ignorance in the inner city and criminality being a way of life for so many black youths there make them a risk to society and makes them see the police as their enemy!

  • Lisa

    Here we go slavery wasn’t started by whites look it up According to colonial records, the first slave owner in the United States was a black man. By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone. Young Black Men Murder 14 Times More than Young White Men look that up too. Also all the black on black killing. I am NOT a RASICST I have many different nationality’s in my family. Stop trying to put the blame on others. No I dont think all cops are good but there are good and bad just as there is good and bad of whites and blacks and so on. If you don’t trust the police don’t call them when u are in need. you don’t want trouble don’t cause trouble……………………………………….#FEDTHEFUCKUPWITHTHISHATESHIT

  • IAmwhiteAndblack

    mulattos Are freakin supreme.. second to germans.. soccer proves this..

  • Guest

    sides of the spectrum..

  • IAmwhiteAndblack

    I heard About white people murdering blacks in power All the time.. with their mafias And stuff..

  • aaronratner

    I too, used to think that hip-hop (not remotely a fan) was promoting drug use and other negative behavior but I finally realized that when Jay-Z talks about selling rock on the corner, he’s not saying that it should be that way but rather, is saying that it is that way. I should social commentary. And it’s funny that when Bush promoted Johnny Cash, no one commented that Cash has songs with lyrics about doing cocaine. This is a huge double standard. Rock music, which is traditionally “white” music, is littered with lyrics on the same subjects ad hip-hop but it gets a free pass. Cash sings of cocaine, good. Jay-Z sings of cocaine (rock), bad. That’s ridiculous.

  • SilverGuardian

    Ah, yes … Libtard is as acceptable as Repugnican … but generally the person using “Libtard” is calling even moderate Republicans by that tag, proving themselves to be Retardicans.

  • A CFAB

    Its funny how everyone talks about crime and punishment as if its associated with criminals…crime and punishment is dictated by power. There would be no white America if we actually punished crime. What happened to the corporate bastards in banking who sent us almost to hell in a hand basket…nothing….what has happened to the corporations in America who use colton in cell phones by child labor in the congo,…over 5 million african children have died due to the colton mines in the congo that America corporations support by buying the material for EVERY CELL PHONE in this country…..ya see, evil has many faces….blacks dont kill nearly as much as whites do in America….not even close..God himself will one day reveal truths that man tries to hide.

  • BettyWhite0321

    Thanks for the link!
    223,553,265 US white population 4,729 murderers
    38,929,319
    US black population 5,486 murderers
    If blacks could control their instinct to kill down to the same rate as whites, the number would have been 824 black murder offenders in 2011. Then maybe they could live long enough to kill someone in the 75 and over demographic!

  • BettyWhite0321

    So all of the companies who buy metals from refineries in east Asia where these minerals have been sent and made untraceable are to blame? It’s not blacks in the Congo that are killing each other and forcing child labor in mines to fund their war? Are the 300.000 rapes they’ve committed also Whitey’s fault? Any Chinese manufacturers guilty here too or are they also mindless beasts that cant be held responsible for their actions? Damn you Whitey! why can’t you stop these animals from killing each other?

  • http://www.livingforsuccessblog.com/ Tamara Gozan

    But why does Jay Z look like he doesn’t think this pose is cute. LOL

  • Kjetil

    Black people are just more prone to crime and violence. It’s in their DNA.