Time: “Young Black Men Murder 14 Times More than Young White Men”

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The article is a by an African-American professor and mostly it restates the obvious. It’s just that the obvious isn’t much talked about.

So, it’s just fake to pretend that the association of young black men with violence comes out of thin air. Young black men murder 14 times more than young white men. If the kinds of things I just mentioned were regularly done by whites, it’d be trumpeted as justification for being scared to death of them.

It’s not that black communities are in complete denial about these statistics — Stop the Violence events are a staple of high-crime areas. But let’s face it: black America isn’t nearly as indignant about black boys killing one another or whites as about the occasional white cop killing one black boy, even though the former wreaks much more havoc in black communities. There is no coordinated nationwide movement equivalent to the one Martin galvanized. There are no thoughtful films “exploring” black-on-black crime the way Fruitvale Station treats the death of Oscar Grant, a young black man who was killed by transit police in Oakland, Calif.

And recent example illustrates how many blacks feel about who is murdering whom. Two weeks ago, an NYPD cop killed 14-year-old Shaaliver Douse. Douse was in the process of shooting other people, and had been charged with shooting someone else in May — and yet his aunt compared him to Martin. In her mind, the main sin was the white cop’s.

Granted, it seems a lot easier to do something about the Zimmermans than the black thugs. Protest profiling and police departments institute new programs. But black thugs aren’t moved by protests, so it can seem like we’re just stuck with them.

But who’s to say what would happen if black America exerted even half of the emotional fervor and brainpower it does over cases like Martin’s to thinking about how to keep black boys from going wrong? Annette John-Hall had some wise words on this last year. What kind of self-image do we have to assume we can only change others, but not ourselves?

But the question is where do black thugs come from? And the answer is that the African-American community has broken down in certain areas.

It has a functional and occasionally prosperous middle class, but the children of that middle class still pay tribute to ghetto thug values. When Obama hangs out with Jay-Z (sample lyric: Welcome to the melting pot, corners where we sellin’ rock), the message that he’s sending is that the black thug represents the black community.

On the one hand, we have ghettos where children grow up without fathers, graduate to gang violence and then shoot each other… and occasionally white people. And we have a black middle class that isn’t willing to break with that way of life.

It used to be the white liberal upper class that enabled black thuggery for entertainment and political purposes. But these days it’s the black middle class that has to take some responsibility for refusing to say no to thug culture while taking refuge behind racism.

  • Toady

    I also strongly advocate for the male version of the pill. Men need more options to take control of their reproductive rights. I’m not sure I’d go as far as you, but there are inequalities when it comes to the distribution of welfare benefits and child custody that can leave men with the short end of the stick. We do need to start fighting for men’s equality, as strange as it may sound. Part of that however, is recognizing the importance of traditionally female roles. We put so much effort in trying to encourage girls in the maths and sciences and to developing their careers, but how much effort do we place on teaching our boys to be caretakers, to be nurturing, loving and responsible fathers? There is enormous pressure on women to do everything, which is unfair on its side, but on the other hand, it has the equally harmful and unfair effect of shutting men out of the equation, or turning them into little better than money-making machines. Masculinists unite! Liberate the American Male!

    • LeCalabro

      Vasectomy works.

      • RWR4TX

        Yes, but it can be permanent. There is no guarantee of a successful reversal if ones circumstances change and they wish to procreate.

        • LeCalabro

          Who would want a reversal? Louie

          • RWR4TX

            Someone whose circumstances changed.

  • Jahshuewah Villiam

    Is there a link to the source of this information? Not that I dont believe you, I just like to go tothe source and look over data myself. Thank you.

  • Ignorance is not bliss
  • Bystander

    Very good point, it probably has a lot to do with just that.

  • Bystander

    The media is a market place driven more by demand than it’s owners… you see what you see in the media simply because it sells.

  • Bystander

    This is crazy. Enough.

  • robynbuckins

    try this: .The fact of the matter is that Black on Black crime violence stems from hopelessness born out of 500 years of unabated legal discrimination. The idea that African Americans are prone to violence has a long pedigree, from antebellum fears of slave revolts, to the 1890s, when white supremacist scholars took crime statistics and twisted them into “proof” of inherent black criminality. Hopelessness is at the root of the violence plaguing poor, black neighborhoods. Poverty, family dysfunction and cultural decay contribute to the feeling of hopelessness pervasive throughout black inner-city communities.

    The concept of a group of people resorting to violence when left with no recourse against injustice should not be foreign to anyone with an elementary understanding of American history. Taxation without representation caused American heroes to turn violent against their former countrymen.

    Had George Washington, Sam Adams and Ethan Allen been subjected to the mind-altering, self-esteem-destroying degradation of enslavement, there’s a damn good chance they would’ve turned on each other rather than their colonizers.

    The uniqueness of the black American experience and the side effects of that experience are not difficult to relate to, convey or understand. It’s just that most people like you who are far too ignorant and simple-minded to go beyond what appears to be a political agenda that support the continued demoralization of poor black people.

    also From the time they are young, Black males in America’s ghettos live under the perception that they are a problem, lazy, irresponsible, and a threat to society that has to be managed and controlled. As adolescence, they are suspended from school at a higher rate than any other group, enrolled in special education classes and locked up in juvenile facilities at a higher rate than any other group. Because of this systematic discrimination they face in early childhood, by the time they grow into adulthood, they have developed a mistrust of their environment and sense of unworthiness. Of course, there are exceptions to this depressing pattern, but to an alarming degree inner-city Black males have been transformed from potential asset to active threat.

    Living in poverty, fractured families, high youth and adult unemployment, along with the stigma of inferiority, has a lasting effect on an individual’s behavioral and mental health. All of these forces work together to marginalize, dehumanize, or otherwise devalue the Black masses. Over time, when a group of people have been targeted and discriminated against, they will often internalize the negative images that society communicates about them. They are made to feel invisible and powerless when it comes to the injustices in this world

    Hopelessness. Sick hearts. Men stripped of their humanity.

    This is what is at the foundation of black-on-black violence — a relentless, never-ending string of political and legal policies designed to demoralize the poor black masses.

    • Nick Juvonen

      I see that you copied and pasted this. Nice.

    • Bob Sten

      So whites only discriminate against blacks and hispanics and not asians?

      Why don’t whites “oppress asians” robyn?

      Asians make more money than whites in america….clearly they are succeeding regardless of race. Why can’t blacks?

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        Social Programming

        • Bob Sten

          “Social programming”? What kind of doublespeak is that?

          So why aren’t asians “socially programmed to be the same as blacks?

          Who is socially programming blacks? Themselves? Aliens?

          There are plenty of white people that are homeless in my neighborhood in Long Beach. Were these poor whites also “socially programmed”? Who do you think does all this “social programming”, and what is their conspiratorial agenda?

          Am I also a social programmer? Are you too?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Social programmed, Bob and yes you are. I can explain social programming but I don’t think you and I would be able to have an intelligent argument about it.

          • Bob Sten

            Just explain who does the social programming, what is their agenda, and who are the targets of social programming in your mind.

            For those groups that aren’t “socially programmed”, please explain why those groups are not socially programmed.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Social programming does not work that way Bob. Everyone is socially programmed it starts from birth. Church, schooling, peers, family, TV, media. People are preconditioned to like and hate certain things. For example, Blonde hair, blue eyed women, For decades through TV, radio, magazines, “Media”. People have programmed to believe this is the prototype for beauty within women. If you look at almost any News station,or TV show. You always see certain demographics. One of them is that skinny blond haired blue eyed girl. However, time are changing and other women are finally get some spot light.

            The same goes for Racial profiling of blacks,and ” The blacks are the only criminals in the US, idea”. Do me a favor, Google for white on black crime. You will not see one sites dedicated to showing of crimes of white against blacks. However, I have seen three different sites that only showcase black on white crime. Why is that? We know these crimes happen. We know whites commit more crime than any other race.

            Social programming is deeper then those example. Social programming has been programming people for decides. To include you and myself, Social programming tells people, “who is more educated, who should makes more money, which races are looked at as criminals despite the actual data. Social programming is what people think when they look at a box of cereal at the supermarket VS bag cereal. Or how they view a White, Black, Asian men and women. How people view sex or sexual status. It’s how society views a person or a group of people.

            Social programming is dangerous because those views are carried over into every social system we know. I.E. courts, Religion, Politics, prison, etc. Those views teach people to hate, love, fear, or to kill because it is socially acceptable or at least believe to be. The proof is in the act people commit.

            Yes, there are exceptions. Those that live in diverse community and actually have diverse social circles, their views are altered.Verses those that live in one race communities.

            Social programming is used several ways, some good some bad, most just perpetuate stereotypes to provide a market to sell too. There is no “one” group targeted. Fat VS skinny, Men women, blacks white, music, dancers ETC.

            I can explain it better but like I said, I don’t think you and i would have a good discussion about it. In fact, I don’t think you are actually going to read what I have written. I think you are just going to skim through looking for “I dislike Caucasian statement”. Furthermore, from reading your comments, I really think you are not able to see beyond yourself or complexion.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Social Programming

            In our country standard are different because of social
            programming which affect a lot of social and governmental systems. People try to make this statement about but a word, but it’s about more. It’s about how Black peoples were and are viewed. It 2014 and we still have the same issues of yesterday. If Look at the FBI stats there are more white people committing
            crimes, yet, more minorities are profiled and stop and frisked. Why is that? Second throughout history in our country, blacks are more like to get longer sentences or more likely to be view as a criminal than whites. How can you have the right to a fare trial with this being the case? The societal view of African Americans being criminals is not among only whites, but blacks as well.
            Social programming is to blame.

            Let start with Movies, films, and all media though out
            history, especially in early films. Black were only cast as Criminals, Rapist, ETC. Mass Media helped set the tone for blacks being known as criminals. . I am not going to go in to the Jim Crow laws and those that still
            believe them. *cough *Tea Party* which also had a strong influence on how African Americans are viewed. Everyday people hold basis programmed to in them about black and other races. Racial profiling is a part of that no matter where you go. To prove my point check out “What Would You Do” WWYD 1203 girlfriend buys positive pregnancy test, or “what would you do 914″ in fact there are a lot of cases on that show the pertain to social programming and views on race. You can see
            people reactions first hand. .One of them is with a White man, Black kid, and a white women pretending as if they were stealing a bike. .while Jogger running by they would help the women steal the bike, they did not pay attention to the man, but they gather around and called the cops on the black kid. Same thing happen with skit about a car thief and interracial marriage,

            Next Education, I have already explain a small part of
            social programming and it effect on today, which is dying along with the Tea Party. Race is very much a fact in many of our school systems. High schools do
            not teach anything beyond MLK. Children of all races do not learn about African American history or the accomplishment of African Americans that helped further
            the United Stated. I want to a finger at FOX’s Megan “Santa can’t be black”. Anyway, to shorten this statement, without a true account for OUR
            past how can we move forward and destroy Stereotypes and bias.

            Let’s look at fashion & beauty, do me a favor look up
            the Clark doll experiment. Social programming over the decades has made black children identify color of their skin as bad, not beautiful or wrong. Image what the other races believe? In the same token, look at Models on TV movies, magazine, in mainstream media, you do not often see minorities, except for by one or two per sitcom. Minority models have a very hard time finding jobs. If
            African Americans do not conform to a small part of society’s views, they are label thugs unlike our counter parts

            How about prison & police, there are a lot wrongfully
            convicted African Americans in prison today, just to make a quote. Look up the show “Vindicated”, How about the guy that was let out of prison after serving a 30-year sentence when a confession was beaten out of him. There are so many documented cases. Then you have to look at African Americans that receive long and harsher sentences than whites? What about stop and first and racial profiling “the 17 year old kid who blew the lid off racial profiling”. how about the judge that
            gave rich white a kid probation for killing 4 people but the African American kid playing with his baby sister, wrestling and accidentally kills her get 10 years from the same judge. I do agree, money helps however, that still does not account for the whites that do not have Millions and do not receive the same sentences as blacks. There is a lot more to the issues than money or you are
            telling me that every white person in the United States is rich? Look at the 2011, 2012, and coming soon 2013 FBI statistics. Look also by state. Either way more whites commit more crime. Also, racial profiling accounts for more arrest of black men and women who may have
            not commit a crime. Which could lead to false statistics, right? Not to mention plea bargains then there is the lack of arrest vs. whites. Look the whole numbers. You are more likely to be killed, or raped by a white person than a black person depending what state you in. Also, black crime is more confined. Yet, a lot of people run around yelling black people violent crimes but never explain their definition of a violent crime. Then there’s the Per Cap thing. Just because you think they whole number are wrong, or do not represent you current belief you use per cap. Look, Whole numbers are whole numbers, just because you use Per Cap does not mean less people were killed, raped or murdered.

            What about church and religion. I guess it is true, as
            long as you add “GOD” to the end of a hateful statement, it is ok. A
            question come to mind, is this freedom of speech or is it freedom to voice
            hate? Let’s not forget he has also spoke about race too.

            I guess some better questions are, if these hateful
            speeches and comments excite extremist to beat, kill, or hurt others, do to their content. Is this still the “freedom of speech or freedom to hate”? Could he be charge with a hate crime if his words had influenced a hate crime and the people that committed the crime justified their actions by his words? (He is giving views to people, his audience.) To be fair, there is no shortage of hateful wrongs being tied to “GOD” look at Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Dan Savage’s, “telling people to get gun to protect themselves from black people”, Magyan Kelly and so many more. In fact, you can research them all. What I feel it is wrong is when people seeing the public backlash and then submit a false apology, nothing is ever fixed. Are they all freedom of speech too or freedom to hate? Does anyone ever wonder how this campaign of hate plays into social programming and influences our governmental, local and civil systems and have been for a long time?

            I wonder if America would have a meltdown, If Americans
            from other races, genders, religions, backgrounds, ETC, did the same as these
            people. Wouldn’t they be justified and all they would have to do is put “GOD” at the end of their comments, right? Or is the freedom to hate a right wing only, freedom?

            History repeats itself. First, you hate people by
            religion, then by race, now by sexual status, and their belief in Santa Claus and how he should appear. . . I guess Christianities accept all policy has
            changed…… Or has it always been segregated? I wonder if it includes a Tea party only clause.

            I have so much more, but I do not want to write more than I need to get my point across. Basically, all these issues and more combine = social Programming. Those views impact society and all its functions, the
            justice systems, ETC. I do agree, money helps however, that still does not account for the whites that do not have Millions and do not receive the same sentences as blacks. Hate, racism is not about slave anymore it’s
            institutionalized.

            Table 43 http://www.fbi.gov

            2012 stats are as followed

            Total: white 6,502,919
            black 2,640,067

            Murder and non-negligent
            manslaughter W4,101 B4,203

            Forcible rape W9,027
            B4,512

            Aggravated assault
            W188,505 B102,371

            Arson ” Violent
            crime” W236,394 B155,088

            http://www.fbi.gov/…/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

            http://www.fbi.gov/…/crime-in-the-u.s…/tables/table-43

            http://www.nydailynews.com/…/percentage-non-hispanic…

            http://usnews.nbcnews.com/…/18934111-census-white…

            http://www.yourblackworld.net/…/white-people-make-up…/

            http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/29/discussion-white-white-violence.html

            2011

            Aggravated assault white 194,981 Black 102,597

            Arson “violet white 243,928 Black 157,384

            Sex offenses (except forcible rape and
            prostitution) W38,422 B 13,189

            Murder and no negligent manslaughter W 4,000 B 4,149

            Notice is did not add the other offence because I need to
            know your definition of violent crimes. Second, if we go by states white’s crime is more wide spread. Whites commit more crimes no matter how you spin it.

            Why is There no Discussion of White on White
            Violence?

            http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-hate-crimes-most-likely-against-blacks-jews-gay-men/

            http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/september/latest-crime-stats-released/latest-crime-stats-released
            Latest Crime Stats Released Violent Crime
            Up, Property Crime Down

            http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/story-index/civil-rights Civil Rights

            http://www.fbi.gov/sandiego/press-releases/2013/fbi-releases-2012-hate-crime-statistics FBI Releases 2012 Hate Crime Statistics

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            disque will probably delete this one to

      • robynbuckins

        Actually whites do by labeling them as “model minorities” which third generation Asians hate.. it means that they don’t have a voice.. that they are obedient and accepted because the white majority approves them.. hahahaha… additionally you should study history in more depth… Europeans banned Asians from this country and were not allowed back into the late 60′s (my dates might be off a little) ….. TRY AGAIN.

      • robynbuckins

        They do.. by labeling them “model minorities” which third generation Asians hate because it means that they are obedient… don’t have a voice and that the dominant majority approves of them.. HAVEN’T YOU HEARD.. DUH.. … also if my history is correct.. Europeans kept Asians (Chinese) out of this country for over 60 years until the 60′s (timeline might be off)… also you should educate yourself on the history of Bruce Lee and the abuse he encountered from Europeans in this country… TRY AGAIN

        • robynbuckins

          also when we talk about over 400 years of legalized discrimination we talk about whites oppressing blacks… you should really learn more about Categories of Differences and how they are constructed and maintained by Europeans

          • robynbuckins

            educate yourself on how the impact of the structural factors are constructed and maintain inequality.. Here are few examples..

            1. Discrimination and stereotypes of African Americans (2) Mexican immigrants never viewed as having the right to belong in the US (3) Equating Muslims with terrorists in the post 9/11 US, disrupting the lives and livelihoods of people seeking refuge from their war-torn home countries…AND THERE ARE MANY MORE

          • robynbuckins

            perhaps you should take a basic Sociology 101 course to learn these things as oppose to responding based on your limited knowledge of others other than your OBVIOUS stereotypes…. not to mention the arrogance of how you among others totally absolve whites of their role in the oppression of others.. WAIT you don’t realize it because after all the culture of whites is the RIGHT WAY of doing things and is the basis of how all other groups’ culture is measured…

          • Bob Sten

            Robyn,

            I am curious. When slavery WAS legal (around 150 years ago), what percentage of whites do you think owned slaves?

            Please provide a straight answer. I know you hate white people and are prone to rambling and grandstanding, but please stay on topic with this one…

          • Bob Sten

            Sorry robyn, but I’ve taken enough sociology (aka, hate whitey and praise all so called minorities) courses in the past to know that they are full of double standards, selective reporting, historical revisionism, and thinly veiled communist tendencies.

            I look forward to the day when far left wing college professors teaching this nonsense are seen for the frauds that they truly are.

          • Bob Sten

            Robyn,

            The left wing media blitz constantly insinuating that blacks and hispanics are “victims” is what leads to hopelessness and despair among many. No wonder so many young blacks hate all whites and want to victimize them (ie knockout “game”, etc).

            Many black people have become mentally ill with hatred against whites because of all of this propaganda. They aren’t shown the truth: which is that many non-whites in this country succeed more than whites. Indians make more money than whites, and so do Asians.

            If blacks and hispanics emulated these groups instead of blaming whitey for all of their failures in life, they would have more hope, and much better economic prospects.

            Effeminate white liberals, and nonwhite liberals do blacks and hispanics an injustice by perpetuating the myth of failure caused by “whitey”.

            It is also no different than the blood libel of old that was directed at jews: jews cause all of your problems. Now it’s whitey causes all of your problems in the infected mind….

          • Bob Sten

            Robyn,

            Left wingers ALWAYS COMPARE WHITES TO HISPANICS AND BLACKS ONLY. THEY NEVER COMPARE ASIANS, WHITE GENTILES, JEWS, HISPANICS, BLACKS, AND INDIANS (FROM INDIA).

            Why? Well, I’ll tell you. It’s because by race/ethnic group, here is the hierarchy of who makes the most in america:

            1. Indians

            2. jews

            3. Asians

            4. white gentiles (non-jews)

            5. blacks

            6. hispanics

            So there you have it robyn, the truth is that white gentiles are FOURTH in terms of making money in america. So stop your whining and distortions, and your envy of asians and indians. You have a racial agenda, but want to hide it through selective reporting and telling only half the story.

          • Bob Sten

            Robyn,

            Racism doesn’t exist, but races do. Tribalism is a more appropriate word….individuals tend to promote, defend, and support those that are most like them. This happens everywhere around the world and is the norm, not the exception. You can cry “racism” all you want, but it is a playground term used by those that want to silence dissent.

            Tribalism is a more accurate and descriptive term. For example, the brits don’t like the irish. That isn’t racism, it’s tribalism. The indians don’t like the pakistanis, that is tribalism, not racism. The chinese don’t like the japanese, that is tribalism, not racism. Mexicans in southern ca don’t like blacks. That’s tribalism, not racism. The term racism is hollow, overused, abused, and ridiculous. Tribalism much more accurately describes racial, religious, and ethnic bias.

            Blacks, mexicans, jews, arabs, japanese, chinese, pakistanis, indians, all groups have this bias towards their own group. This is not a crime, it is biologically adaptive. Those groups that don’t favor their own eventually die out and those that do favor their own survive. The only groups of humans that weren’t tribal in the past are now…..extinct. Only us tribal ones survived.

            Are you telling me that whites favoring their own is wrong, but blacks favoring their own is OK? You know what that makes you don’t you?

        • Bob Sten

          No, you are wrong when you say “which third generation asians hate because it means that they are obedient.”

          Asians generally don’t “hate” like many hispanics and blacks in america. Asians are busy succeeding…..being more financially successful than whites. The same with indians. Indians also make more than whites in the US.

          Asians and indians are busy enjoying the opportunities they have in this country and work hard to succeed. You, and many black and hispanic people like you, prefer to blame all of your failures in life on whitey. It is easier to scream at the dark than to light a candle for you and your ilk.

          The same happens elsewhere. In guyana, there were black slaves. When slaves eventually got their freedom there (remember, although slavery existed everywhere around the world, whites were the first to outlaw it), they refused to do work that was “beneath them” working for low wages. So, the plantation owners brought in workers from india since the blacks refused to work. Over time, the indians became successful, educated, and bypassed blacks there on pretty much every measure of success.

          Blacks response now in guyana? They now claim that they are discriminated against by the indians,and that is why they are poor.

          Sound like a familiar story??????

          • robynbuckins

            Bob.. I live in San Francisco…. a city with one of the largest Asian populations.. third generation Asians do not like being called the “model minority”… third generation Asians are more Americanized and are often in conflict with first generation Asians about sustaining their culture and viewpoints.. Once again you base WHAT YOU THINK YOU know on your inherent racism and stereotypes… let me provide you with a few links to get you started on actually learning about people that don’t look like you.. LOL

          • robynbuckins

            from the link

            Even today, white America continues to use the Asian American “success story” to counter or deflect the charges of systemic racism often leveled by black activists. In my .

            government class this semester, a white student pointed insinuatingly to Japanese Americans as a group that, though historically oppressed, had managed to become successful without the help of affirmative action. Both blacks and Asian Americans often find themselves flustered on this point, reacting defensively or offensively, but rarely, , grasping the whole proportions of the problem.http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~yisei/issues/spring_92/ys92_20.html

          • robynbuckins

            http://www.asian-nation.org/model-minority.shtml

            They point to statistics like this and say how well Asian Americans are doing in society and that we’ve overcome past instances of prejudice and discrimination without resorting to political or violent confrontations with Whites. Further, our success should serve as an example for other racial/ethnic minority groups to follow in their own quest to overcome barriers in their way to achieving the American dream.

            Many people go even further and argue that since Asian Americans are doing so well, we no longer experience any discrimination and that Asian Americans no longer need public services such as bilingual education, government documents in multiple languages, and welfare. Further, using the first stereotype of Asian Americans, many just assume that all Asian Americans are successful and that none of us are struggling.

            On the surface, it may sound rather benign and even flattering to be described in those terms. However, we need to take a much closer look at these numbers. As we will see, many other statistics show that Asian Americans are still the targets of racial inequality and institutional discrimination and that the model minority image is a myth.

          • robynbuckins

            Go learn something about people …. you know actually talk to them… sit in a classroom with them.. go to their neighborhoods as oppose to promoting stereotypes based on what YOU THINK YOU KNOW…BTW if racism didn’t exist then there would be no category that labels people as “minorities”… and wouldn’t provide responses that compare one group to another.. oooweee.. ..

          • robynbuckins

            one last thing…. as I stated before when you arrive at a conclusion based off a false premise.. you should rethink your premise otherwise you might end up believing the world is flat.. HAHAHAHAHAHA

          • Bob Sten

            Come on, admit it. You’re 12 aren’t you?

            No, seriously. How old are you?

          • Bob Sten

            Is that supposed to be deep? Well, it isn’t.

          • Bob Sten

            robyn,

            Most of your post made no sense.

            YES, racism does not exist.

            Tribalism does. They put categories on all kinds of government forms BECAUSE OF TRIBALISM!

            Groups say “we want more benefits, hand outs, set asides, etc., for OUR TRIBE”. The politicians want the votes, so they concede.

            This is yet another example of two things: tribalism, as I just stated, and the power that so called minority groups have.

            These checkboxes on government forms are designed so that underperforming so called minorities are given more. If whitey was all powerful, and didn’t do anything to help so called minorities, these checkboxes wouldn’t exist. White people would simply ignore underperforming so called minorities. They certainly wouldn’t go out of their way to count them statistically and then dole out more benefits and services to them.

            Open your eyes robyn. Wake up. There is the university far left wing fairy tale world, and then there is reality.

            Please don’t tell me you are getting a degree in sociology or ethnic studies. If you do, you won’t get lots of job offers….and then you’ll eventually blame whitey for it!

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Bob, remember when i said your arguments were flawed. You proved me right once again. If “racism does not exist”, why is it since 2009 when the Tea Party was made they have used racism to push there points? Why is it that you can go to almost every republican web site and see more racism then on any other political site. Your tribeism sounds good but it flawed and does not replace racism.

          • Bob Sten

            robyn,

            I don’t need to learn about people in a class room. I don’t need a left wing professor to do all my thinking for me.

            I talk to all kinds of people about race and ethnicity. Most of the black people I talk with about race see my point. They agree with me. Same with mexicans.

            They see that all groups are tribal and look out for their own. There is nothing wrong with that.

            It’s just that since the hippie days in the 1960′s in the west, this cult has developed that says that all tribalism of non-whites is good and admirable, but the tribalism of whites is so called “racism” and “wrong”. I disagree. I say if groups aren’t tribal, they get wiped out by groups that are tribal. I say what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

            If all people should be treated the same, then let’s condemn all groups for tribalism, OR condemn NO groups for tribalism. Let’s be consistent from now on.

            Can’t you at least agree to that robyn? Don’t you think that is fair?

          • Bob Sten

            Nice cut and paste job robyn, but try thinking for yourself for once.

            There are more poor whites than any other group in the US. FACT! White people aren’t all rich shot callers the way you imply. Kind of throws your “all whites are rich oppressors of people of color” slur for a loop.

            I don’t get where you get off thinking that all whites have some kind of power. My grandfather was a migrant farm worker in the midwest and never had much. My mom’s side immigrated here and were blue collar workers their whole lives.

            You somehow think they “oppressed” you? You think they “owe you” something? Why? Because of something that dead people did to other dead people 150 to 200 years ago?

            All your whining is about one thing: privilege. You are trying to privilege yourself above whites. You are trying to say whites owe you and your tribe for this or that. It’s pretty blatant, and pretty self serving. I guess if I didn’t want to work hard and I wanted to blame others for all my failings I might do the same.

            Do you believe in collective guilt robyn?

          • Bob Sten

            Robyn,

            Grow up. Stop blaming all of your problems on white people. You are sooooo obsessed with race, it’s unbelievable.

            You clearly blame everything wrong any black person does on whites. What an easy out. Scapegoat others for all your problems. Children do this. I expect more from one who professes to be an adult.

            Again, if so called “racism” (really tribalism that all groups practice) is the reason for black failure (as a community), how do you explain the success of indians and asians?

            Facts are facts. I don’t care about Sally, your asian friend in Sociology 345, I care about what the numbers say. And they say that indians and asians are more successful than whites and blacks and hispanics in this country. You can try to shift the goal posts all day long, but it’s the truth.

            Additionally, why are blacks better off than hispanics in this country as a whole? Is it because hispanics are “more oppressed” than black people? Explain that one. And don’t ask your left wing loon professor, or crack open your Sociology 299 book either to give me an answer.

          • Bob Sten

            Robyn,

            You arrogant woman. You think you know me? My wife is from Vietnam. Grow up! Stop blaming whites for everything wrong in this world.

            People are tribal, deal with it.

  • grant

    blame the left! blame the jews! rabblerabblerabble
    you guys aren’t solving any problems by pointing fingers everywhere

    • Bob Sten

      Blame the tea party. Blame whites. Blame republicans. Blame conservatives. Blame the successful. Rabblerabblerabblerabble

      Like that solves any problems?

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        Tea party and those like them are were many of these issues stem from. Bob what’s the current demographic makeup of the tea party, the Age group and the type of party? I am pretty sure everyone is talking about the same subject and not just pointing finger. Putting blame were blame is do. No whites but those white that choose to aid racism and hate.

  • whosnext

    When White on White crime takes place it’s never talked about the way it is when Blacks commit crimes.

    In the United States, a White person is almost six times more likely to be killed by another White person than by a Black person, according to FBI homicide data. In 2011, there were more cases of Whites killing Whites than there were Blacks killing Blacks. However, the mainstream media obsesses over Black on Black violence and rarely mentions the problem of White on White violence.

    These statistics have not led to a media outcry about the problem of White on White crime or the unique pathology of the White community. Nor has the White community stood up to demand change in their community like the Black community does when trying to tackle instances of Black on Black crime.

    Most White people don’t kill White people. Yet media pundits, from Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly to CNN’s Don Lemon, have no problem using the phrase “Black on Black violence” despite the fact that most Black people don’t kill Black people.

    When the news talks about gang-related deaths, they treat it as an almost exclusively Black problem. However, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, for the period of 1980 to 2008, a majority (53.3 percent) of gang homicides were committed by White offenders, and the majority of gang homicide victims (56.5 percent) were White.

    When was the last time you’ve seen on the news, discussions about a White-gang problem?

    Crimes committed by White people are explained as deviations of the individual but have nothing to do with race, but crimes committed by Blacks or Latino’s are somehow attributed to race. Gang-bangers from South Chicago have somehow become a symbol that Black men are to be feared, but you don’t get the same fear that one could attach to the brutal murders committed by Neo-Nazi skinheads.

    According to statistics from the Justice Department, White men are more likely to kill than any other racial group. When it comes to how and why people kill, Black men do, in fact, outnumber Whites in gun-related homicides, but especially drug-related offenses. However, White men top the list in most all other categories.

    When the Bureau of Justice Statistics collected homicidal rates from 1980 to 2008, they found that compared to Blacks, Whites were more likely to kill children, the elderly, family members, and their significant others. They commit more sex-related crimes, gang related crimes, and are more likely to kill at their places of employment.

    So why does America still perpetuate the lie of Black criminality?

    Is it because one in 15 Black men are in prison? That may not explain it. The racial biases in the War on Drugs contribute to the high incarceration rates. Studies show that Blacks are no more likely than Whites to use or sell drugs. Blacks actually only make up 14 percent of regular drug users. Yet Blacks are more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and receive longer sentences than Whites.

    Should we blame gangster rap with the gun-toting rappers? If so, why can’t we blame a White man with a pistol being used to symbolize Second Amendment rights?

  • NE-PNW VoorTrekker

    Well-put.

  • SarahM

    The black community needs to get it together and let go of the poor me bullshit. I’m pretty sick of the race card being pulled for every debate. This generation, at least the white portion, was raised to be racially blind. Yet every time I turn on the news or go out into public I witness some form of a black person complaining that they are treated wrongly because of their race. The black race needs to let their color barrier they feel so safe hiding behind go and separate themselves from the thug life they glorify so much. What happened the the American dream? Work hard and take control of your own life. It’s always possible. They need to take responsibility and do something about it. Stop glorifying crime and looking up to those who alone their way through the streets and do something for yourselves that doesn’t involve shootings violence and drugs. Give your children something to look up to. Maybe the next generation will get it right.

  • SarahM

    I really like that last paragraph

  • Dan Crabtree

    I keep data every year on each murder commited in my capitol city…2013 murders were as follows 143 murders in the city from jan i to dec 30th..we have five murders so far in 2014…of these… blacks robbed and killed twelve white people in the commision of a felony armed robbery.and home invasions… with one police officer killed by a black armed thug holding his girlfriend hostage….White people killed no black people other than police officers shot three in armed violent shootouts…Oh five other whites were murdered by whites as well boyfriend… live in.. what-ever…all the rest of the murders in my hometown in 2013 were commited by blacks on blacks violence……

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      If you actually look at the FBI reports more whites commit more crimes than blacks. So that “Blacks are only crimes argument does not fly”

  • Terry Jones

    From the FBI: Black males ages 14 to 35, commit almost 70% of all violent crime, and 90% of murders in the US, while they comprise less than 4% of the actual population.
    It’s, “Time to take America back from the animals.”

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      1.How about prison & police, there are a lot wrongfully convicted African Americans in prison today, just to make a quote. Look up the show “Vindicated”, How about the guy that was let out of prison after serving a 30-year sentence when a confession was beaten out of him. There are so many documented cases. Then you have to look at African Americans that receive long and harsher sentences than whites? What about stop and first and racial profiling “the 17 year old kid who blew the lid off racial profiling”. how about the judge that gave rich white a kid probation for killing 4 people but the African American kid playing with his baby sister, wrestling and accidentally kills her get 10 years from the same judge. I do agree, money helps however, that still does not account for the whites that do not have Millions and do not receive the same sentences as blacks. There is a lot more to the issues than money or you are telling me that every white person in the United States is rich? Look at the 2011, 2012, and coming soon 2013 FBI statistics. Look also by state. Either way more whites commit more crime. Also, racial profiling accounts for more arrest of black men and women who may have not commit a crime. Which could lead to false statistics, right? Not to mention plea bargains then there is the lack of arrest vs. whites. Look the whole numbers. You are more likely to be killed, or raped by a white person than a black person depending what state you in. Also, black crime is more confined. Yet,

      a lot of people run around yelling black people violent crimes but never
      explain their definition of a violent crime. Then there’s the Per Cap thing. Just because you think they whole number are wrong, or do not represent you current belief you use per cap. Look, Whole numbers are whole numbers, just because you use Per Cap does not mean less people were killed, raped or murdered. Table 43
      2012 stats are as followed
      Total: white 6,502,919
      black 2,640,067
      Murder and non-negligent
      manslaughter W4,101 B4,203
      Forcible rape W9,027
      B4,512
      Aggravated assault
      Wh188,505 Bk102,371
      Arson ” Violent
      crime” W236,394 B155,088

      2011
      Aggravated assault white 194,981 Black 102,597
      Arson “violet white 243,928 Black 157,384
      Sex offenses (except forcible rape and
      prostitution) Wh38,422 Bl 13,189
      Murder and no negligent manslaughter W 4,000 B 4,149
      Notice is did not add the other offence because I need to know your definition of violent crimes. Second, if we go by states white’s crime is more wide spread. Whites commit more crimes no matter how you spin it. Get your information correct please.

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      How about prison & police, there are a lot wrongfully convicted African Americans in prison today, just to make a quote. Look up the
      show “Vindicated”, How about the guy that was let out of prison after
      serving a 30-year sentence when a confession was beaten out of him. There are so many documented cases. Then you have to look at African Americans that receive long and harsher sentences than whites? What about stop and first and racial profiling “the 17 year
      old kid who blew the lid off racial profiling”. how about the judge that
      gave rich white a kid probation for killing 4 people but the African American kid playing with his baby sister, wrestling and accidentally kills her get 10 years from the same judge. I do agree, money helps however, that still does not account for the whites that do not have Millions and do not receive the same sentences as blacks. There is a lot more to the issues than money or you are telling me that every white person in the United States is rich? Look at the 2011, 2012, and coming soon 2013 FBI statistics. Look also by state. Either way more whites commit more crime. Also, racial profiling accounts for more arrest of black men and women who may have not commit a crime. Which could lead to false statistics, right? Not to mention plea bargains then there is the lack of arrest vs. whites. Look the whole numbers. You are more likely to be killed, or raped by a white person than a black person depending what state you in. Also, black crime is more confined.Yet,
      a lot of people run around yelling black people violent crimes but never
      explain their definition of a violent crime. Then there’s the Per Cap
      thing. Just because you think they whole number are wrong, or do not represent you current belief you use per cap. Look, Whole numbers are whole numbers, just because you use Per Cap does not mean less people were killed, raped or murdered.

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        Notice I did not add the other offences to the Stats below because I need to know your “Definition” of violent crimes. Second, if we go by states white’s crime is more wide spread. Whites commit more crimes no matter how you spin it. Get your information correct please.

        • Guest

          In 2012 Total Crimes were Whites 6,502,919
          Blacks 2,640,067, Murder and nonnegligent
          manslaughter Whites 4,101 Blacks 4,203, Forcible rapes
          Whites 9,027 Blacks 4,512, Aggravated assaults White 188,505 Black 102,371 Arson violent crimes Whites 236,394 Blacks 155,088

          In 2011 Aggravated assaults Whites 194,981 Blacks 102,597, Arson violetcrimes Whites 243,928 Blacks 157,384, Sex offenses Whites 38,422 Blacks 13,189
          Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter
          Whites 4,000 Blacks 4,149,

          Notice is did not add the other offences because I need to know your “Definition” of violent crimes. Second, if we go by states white’s crime is more wide spread. Whites commit more crimes no matter how you spin it. Get your information correct please.

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        n 2012 Total Crimes were Whites 6,502,919
        Blacks 2,640,067, Murder and nonnegligent
        manslaughter Whites 4,101 Blacks 4,203, Forcible rapes
        Whites 9,027 Blacks 4,512, Aggravated assaults White 188,505 Black 102,371 Arson violent crimes Whites 236,394 Blacks 155,088

        In 2011 Aggravated assaults Whites 194,981 Blacks 102,597, Arson violetcrimes Whites 243,928 Blacks 157,384, Sex offenses Whites 38,422 Blacks 13,189
        Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter
        Whites 4,000 Blacks 4,149,

        Notice is did not add the other offences because I need to know your “Definition” of violent crimes. Second, if we go by states white’s crime is more wide spread. Whites commit more crimes no matter how you spin it. Get your information correct please.

  • Terry Jones

    Many of them also spawn from 20 to 30 potential little 7/11 robbers, hookers, drug addicts, rapists, and murderers, by age 28 or 30 with multiple, underage, unwed, more than willing sexual partners with taxpayer funded welfare paying for it all while they stand around on the corners getting drunk on Colt 45 malt liquor, high on killer weed, down on heroin, up on PCP, zonked on angel dust, zipped on crystal meth, zommped on Oxycontin, and bragging about it.
    It’s, “Time to take America back from the animals.”

  • Terry Jones

    It’s time to expose the cause of most of the violent crime and immorality in the US, and consider passing a law “Repatriating” the Negro to it’s homeland.

    • LibsNeedMentalHelp

      the Negro to “it is” homeland? Try again.

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      Tea partiers

  • robynbuckins

    perhaps you should take a basic Sociology 101 course to learn these things as oppose to responding based on your limited knowledge of others or other than your OBVIOUS stereotypes about others… not to mention the arrogance of how you among others totally absolve whites of their role in the oppression of others.. WAIT you don’t realize it because after all the culture of whites is the RIGHT WAY of doing things and is the basis of how all other groups’ culture is measured…

    • Bob Sten

      Robyn, again there is no such thing as racism.

      There is only tribalism, and all groups around the world practice it.

      When whites are in power, they tend to promote other whites.

      When blacks are in power, they tend to promote other blacks.

      When mexicans are in power, they tend to promote other mexicans.

      When jewish people are in power, they tend to promote other jews…..and anyone non-white (many jews have this multi-generational pathological hatred of europeans of christian background aka white people).

      All groups tend to promote their own. It is genetically adaptive. Over time, those groups that don’t do this get erased by the groups that do it. Yet effeminate white liberals pretend it isn’t so. Same with you Robyn.

      So delusional.

      • robynbuckins

        again you are all over the place.. hahahahahaha… ever heard of the straw man fallacy……

        • robynbuckins

          oh yeah but the one thing you are consistent at and that is attempting to put people down… classic behavior of one dimensional thinkers.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            or a tea partier

          • Bob Sten

            Nice generalization ignoranceisnotbliss. I thought you were against generalizing?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            I am but not against Tea party statements. I mean come on BOB you are a smart guy. Do u really think this is ok? Do you really believe any of what your are speaking?

          • Bob Sten

            Ignorance,

            I believe strongly in every idea I am sharing with you. Reality bears out my opinions. Just look at the world around you. People are tribal everywhere.

            It is normal and adaptive.

            Are you really going to tell me that if this story was about whites committing more crime than other groups, you would have come on here standing up for whites and complaining about negative generalizations about whites? Please answer this question.

            NO! The reason you are on here is because you are black, and you are sticking up for your tribe.

            You are a perfect example of the tribalism I speak of.

            I feel like I am talking to a blind person.

            You can’t even acknowledge what motivates you. How can you know others if you don’t even know yourself?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL Bob, you answered for me. I have to disagree. Not wholly though.I agree with you idea of tribal however, It does not replace racism or is not a reason to say racism does not exist. I agree, some people that share the same likeness tend to stay together. However, I also understand social programming. Our society “whole” or in certain groups/areas are diverse. Those people within these “diverse” groups tend to not be tribe (your term). Myself included. I believe in social programming, It explains more and more in multi-levels.

            To answer your question, Not every person that is white is racist. I know this because my social circles are diverse and I look for facts instead of socially programmed answers. The same not every Black person is a criminal. I know this because I am Black and I am not a criminal. I have also studies sociology and anthropology. Which add to my belief of social programming.

            On the other hand, Your “tribal” idea make sense to a point. However, with your Idea, you are saying everyone is racist. That’s not that case. With your tribe Idea, you are saying people are born to hate others. That’s not true either. Racism, Hate, Fear. These traits are all learned traits. People learn racism from their parents, movies, TV, environment, their social circles. I.E. the Tea Party, (I know you are not going to tell me I am wrong about the tea party.) I have like to prove it.

            People learn biases from their everyday experiences. Simple things like watching the news. i.E. If only seeing blond haired blue eyed white skinned people as an anchors on every news station. Your subconscious this tells you, only white with blond hair people can be news official or actors, etc. The same goes for the internet, if you only see black committing crimes than you only think blacks commit crimes and you by pass all the white crimes. On the internet I have seen three pages dedicated to black crimes and none dedicated to white crimes. This is social programming 101. Bombard people with an alternate realities so they do not see what’s in their face.

            Social programming encompass everything, Bob. Think about it. Mylie Cyrus can twerk and make millions however, blacks have been twerking for years and not made a dime and have been see in a bad light. Racial profiling is ok for blacks but not for whites. Social Programming is the cause of all this and diversity is the cure.

            I think you trible idea is ok, but it does not answer any questions. It just puts people in groups and further separate us. Social programming is what this is all about.

            Yes bob, racism is still alive……. and it’s learn not tribal.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Bob, Social programming has been a form of control as long as “Media” has been alive. It’s away business sell to different groups or politicians pull string to get votes. It can aid diversity or divide the masses. Social programming can allow people like Zimmerman to kill someone without conscience because of the belief that a black person in a hoods are automatically guilty, even if that are just walking home or allow OJ to walk free because he is rich and the rich are held to a different standard of laws. Social programming can decide only whites should be actors and that all black are poor and just looking for a hand out. It decides society current views on race or anything for that matter. I.E. the current overweight arguments, or the use of religion being forced on others.

            There is a reason why people like to use Per cap when talking about race, statistics and crimes. It’s because if you use whole numbers they would have to explain why whites commit more crimes but make up less than the prison population. Not just crime but violent crimes as well. FBI facts check them then say I am lying…. Social programming in jury member is a key here. Your tribal idea also says, the reason why zimmerman walked is because the jury was primarily white. which is true and I agree. However, I will still go with social programming. If all the jury members believe Trayvon was guilty because he was black and black people wearing hood have to be up to no good. Which is the current theme. Then that’s the reason why all these killers are getting away with murder using the “stand your ground defence”

            Social Programming plays into everything. Jury members, political parties, education, people beliefs and so on.

            Still the only fix is diversity……… Diversity in media (models of different races), Jobs, Education ( teach “true history beyond MLK”), Movie (when blacks are not just the side kick or but the main character) Sitcoms Etc.

            FYI, you can replay “black” with any other minority and may points is still valid.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You are wrong on so many levels but I have to go now. I will try to post more later.

            But for now, I will say this….

            When you said “With your tribe Idea, you are saying people are born to hate others.”

            This is false. Take a family for instance. Most families are expected to favor each other over non family members. Would you physically be more likely to protect a family member, or a complete stranger? Are you likely to give all of your money when you die to a family member, or some stranger on the street?

            Dozens of studies have been conducted on these things. Humans pretty much universally favor those more closely related to them genetically. You defend your sister faster than you would a stranger. You give more of your money to kin than you do to strangers.

            BUT, just because I love my family this way DOESN’T mean that I “hate” everyone in this world that is not in my family. That is not a logical conclusion.

            We favor those most closely related to us…..history bears this out…..we first favor ourselves, then we favor our family….then we favor our ethnic group….then we favor our race. In that order BECAUSE it goes in order of genetic relatedness.

            It all makes sense and is all adaptive.

            Humans do this universally around the world. Those that don’t get wiped out.

            Left wing naive pinko commies (too humiliated to admit they are red), say that this human nature shouldn’t be so and it is bad. They say everyone should treat everyone as though they are family members. It’s these same communist nuts that get into power, and then own expensive cars, have multiple homes, and live high on the hog (for themselves and their FAMILIES), while the workers live in poverty. I should know, my wife is from Vietnam. She will tell you my words are true about the communuts.

            I say nonsense. The world population of humans has exploded to over 5 billion….and this all the while where extreme tribalism existed.

            If tribalism wasn’t successful, human numbers would have declined in the last 1,000 years rather than increased.

            Tribalism is the norm, and it is successful. “Universalism” and “selflessness” is a pipe dream perpetuated by those that will deceive you.

            The truth will set you free. See things for what they really are, not for what you want them to be.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, Bob this is going to be a back and forth argument but I welcome a challenge. In your statement you have just describe, social connects, which is a part of social programming.

            Families have been taught to guard each other from the beginning of time. You are talking about different social structure. These structures has changed so many times during the age of MAN. You really need to take an anthropology class before you use words like “All or every” for instance. In china there are families of completely different make-ups from the United States.

            I am not going to take you to school, so I am going to try to make this as short as possible. There are family make ups where men are not apart of the nuclear family lives. The mans sole purpose is to donate sperm. Women own the land, keep the family, do everything. This is a social norm in that part of the world. The family only really takes care of the nuclear family and not the father because he is really an outsider.

            In other places, The norm is, if a woman marries a man, she has to marries the man’s brothers as well. In this case a women can have up to 5 different husbands and all of them brothers. This is a social norm in that part of the world. They only worry about themselves seeing as they are really not connected to huge population and live in the mountains.

            In the United states times has changed family structure and values. In the past people wanted huge family, 10 or more children. Today’s families generally only have two children at most. Women have become the bread winners, have better jobs and are equals in relenships now. Families have become more self sufficient.

            It’s not tribalism you are trying to explain. It’s social programming. Just like religion is a part of social programming. Also, People adapt to their environment not to a tribe. Tribe pass along the knowledge they gain, with is an example of “Social programming”. Not to mention “tribalism” does not explain mass media, it’s influence on masses, social structures and individuals. Or the explosion of minority web sites that have influenced and allowed for “truths” to be seen within our country as well as different opinions Vs mainstream ideas.. Social Programming, does:)

            Sorry friend I think you failed on this one. (Your argument is flawed) Sorry, I like that word. I am not trying to be mean however, You are not stating the truth. Tribalism is a ploy to separate people from the truth. (Diversity will fix many of the social problems in our country.) Not just black and white, but diversity for gays, religion, women, ETC.

            Tea Party, views are a means to destroy diversity. Or have you “not” seen their agenda or how they gain members. Reality is before you Bob. You can take the red pill and stay in denial or the blue one and accept diversity. The blue side is not about forcing views on you and others. That’s red side is and the proof is in your party acts and words.

            Reds/tea partiers that push hate:, Dan savage, Sarah palin, Michelle Bachmann, Glenn Beck and many others to include their politicians. As well as the red Politicians that do not speak out against hate.
            .

        • Bob Sten

          Straw man? Uh, like pointing out that some whites owned black slaves in the past, therefore all whites past and present are evil?

          Like that strawman?

      • robynbuckins

        first of all Bob race is a social construct THIS WE KNOW.. so is gender, religion, sexuality, class DUH… and as a result racism is a result of this social construct… once again, a social construct perpetuated by Europeans.. you do remember scientific racism.. Hoffman and the rest of the boys trying to figure out the brains of Black people.. hahahahaha… have you ever heard of a false dichotomy… hahahaha.. boy you are all over the place.. but I will give you this.. you are at least consistent at attempting to put people down by calling them names so as to make your self look good… but let me tell you sweetie.. when you arrive at a conclusion based off a false premise, you should rethink your premise; otherwise, you might end up believing the world is flat! .. hahahahahaha

        • robynbuckins

          Black power promotes other Blacks.. what the hell are you talking about.. hahahahahaha… do you know what the Black Power Movement was about… what they stood for.. do you even know about Black Nationalism .. and I’m talking about within context from an Afro-centric viewpoint.. NO you don’t and how could you when can’t even acknowledge that racism exist … like I said you ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE

        • Bob Sten

          robyn,

          Every bile-like idea in your last post is a left wing university cliche. All of those things have been said 10,000 times before by others before you. You got all these ideas from left wing lunatic professors.

          That makes you a mindless, unthinking parrot. Completely unoriginal, and easily led. It was people like you that crucified Christ.

          Tribalism is the norm robyn. Blacks are tribal. Mexicans are tribal. Asians are tribal. Whites are tribal.

          If the tribalism of whites is allegedly bad (according to you and the left wing professors that do your thinking for you) then why is the tribalism of blacks, mexicans, pakistanis, indians, japanese, chinese, koreans, and others not bad?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            If Tribalism is your claims, this it would refer to you as will correct. If that is the case, it would make you incapable of seeing others arguments from a point of view where you could actually understand their claim, correct?

          • Bob Sten

            No, this is not correct at all ignorance (i will just call you that for short from now on – your name is too long to type every time).

            I have black and mexican colleagues that I explain my views about tribalism to, and they agree with me (although they themselves are tribal too).

            So, no, your theory is shot down. IMHO, being tribal helps you understand more clearly the tribalism of others.

            However, if you are a self righteous, self important hypocrite that ignores your own tribalism, and the tribalism of your OWN group, but you claim the tribalism of others is horrible “racism”, then you will be blinded by narcissistic hypocrisy.

            I see the tribalism of myself and others, and think it is natural and the norm. I understand others arguments for what they are – self serving tribalism. You accept the tribalism of non-whites, and then condemn whites for their tribalism.

            You cannot understand my point of view. I understand even the point of views of malcolm x and al sharpton. Understand now?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Bob, I am sorry I think I am with robynbuckins on this one. I can’t agree with your idea. However, I think we are both trying to explain the same theory. You with tribalism and me with social programming. If thats the case your theory is a part of mine, meaning tribalism It is not the whole issue or a fix.

      • robynbuckins

        Bob do you have a life other than sitting by the computer spreading the Cancer of hate… ahahahaahahahah

        • Bob Sten

          robyn,

          Cancer of hate? That’s all you are learning in the university is to hate european culture, christianity, and white people. That is all I see from your posts.

          You talk about white people as though they are all the same.

          You constantly talk about the past, and imply that whites owe your tribe and other so called minority tribes for white tribalism.

          I say that is ludicrous.

          Whites owe you nothing. Every group is tribal. Black tribalism and the culture of grievance bleed through in all of your posts. You are full of hate. I am full of reality. I am enlightened. I see the world for what it is and acknowledge the way it is. The truth is beautiful once you really open your eyes to see how people behave. Things become so much more predictable. You live in a left wing fairy land where whites are responsible for everything bad, and have never done good. It’s a communist delusion that is perpetuated in most mainstream universities in the western world.

          You want to hate on whites for long dead white tribalism, but I say it’s silly. All groups are tribal and look out for their own.

          There is nothing wrong with that. You are just so much of a hypocrite, you cannot see your own duplicity. You are blind to your own faults, your tribalism, and the tribalism of your people.

      • robynbuckins

        Bob you really should learn to respond without attempting to insult people because it is not a very good look on your part…hahahahha typically those who experience COGNITIVE dissonance resort to such tactics

        • Bob Sten

          robyn,

          cognitive dissonance…….

          You mean like claiming that white tribalism is bad, while at the same time promoting the tribalism of black people?

          You mean that kind of cognitive dissonance?

          cognitive dissonance….

          You mean like highlighting the tribalism of white people, but then ignoring the tribalism of:

          -blacks
          -jews
          -mexicans
          -pakistanis
          -indians
          -japanese
          -koreans
          -chinese

          You mean that kind of cognitive dissonance?

          Thanks for bringing your own cognitive dissonance to my attention robyn, but I saw it from the get go.

  • robynbuckins

    Bob… I live in San Francisco…. one of the cities with the highest Asian population… like I said you should take a Sociology Class… third generation Asian typically are more Americanized.. they are in conflict with 1st generation on this issue and do not like being called “model minorities”…. do the research or better yet sit in a classroom with them and find out… http://www.asian-nation.org/model-minority.shtml

  • robynbuckins

    Bob Stern …excerpt ”

    Even today, white America continues to use the Asian American “success story” to counter or deflect the charges of systemic racism often leveled by black activists. In my government class this semester, a white student pointed insinuatingly to Japanese Americans as a group that, though historically oppressed, had managed to become successful without the help of affirmative action. Both blacks and Asian Americans often find themselves flustered on this point, reacting defensively or offensively, but rarely, I think, grasping the whole proportions of the problem

    http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~yisei/issues/spring_92/ys92_20.html

    • robynbuckins

      Like I said you should take a course on Asians .. Blacks.. Hispanics.. since you advocate to know so much about them.. hahaha and always attempt to compare one group to another to justify how the systems of oppression don’t affect them …

      • Bob Sten

        robyn,

        Is that how you learn about the real world? By taking courses overwhelmingly taught by far left wingers? You think you are hearing balanced opinions in the university?

        I graduated with my degree way back in the early 90′s. I was a communist fool by the time i got out. Years of travel and really seeing people for what they are was the best education I got in terms of capitalism, communism, race, ethnicity, religion, and tribalism.

        All you are getting in the university is indoctrination….and a false sense of history.

    • Bob Sten

      robyn,

      It’s not a “success story”. As I have pointed out over and over, and even given links to actual government statistics, asians ARE succeeding.

      They are succeeding without having to beg for handouts and pretend like someone owes them for something that happened to someone other than them (like their great, great, great granduncle).

      Maybe you are jealous of asian success, but it is success nonetheless.

  • robynbuckins

    I’m not sure who it was that asked me how many Whites did I think owned slaves…… ANSWER: only a small percentage.. 3% I believe.. DUH… contrary to popular belief not all BLACKS are ignorant …. and what is your point.. just because a small percentage of Whites owned slaves does not mean that the society was not a product of such mentality… DUH…like I tell many Blacks who say well Lincoln was a racist.. hell it was the 1800s what the hell do you expect.. CONTEXT must always be applied… also who said I hate White people.. nice try.. I never said that.. that’s you speaking… in fact I have and know some really nice Whites who are my friends.. hahahahahahaha…the fact is that many Whites can’t handle the truth about history but got the nerve to talk about how others are this and that….

  • robynbuckins

    again Bob.. go out and learn about people… and I mean actually learn and stop sitting behind a computer and spreading WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW

    • Bob Sten

      robyn,

      I know what you are, and I know why you are that way.

      You are tribal, and looking out for the tribal interests of you and your people.

      You are selling guilt to further your tribal interests, but I aint buying.

      Sell it to someone more naive, like some effeminate white liberals.

  • robynbuckins

    Bob.. blah blah blah…..try your hand at critical thinking dude.. but in order to so so means questioning your own thinking .. but the problem I see with you is that you don’t know much about others .your knowledge is based on stereotypes about others ..I provided you with links with respect to Asian American’s and how they seem themselves in relation to Whites along with some statistical facts that can be measured and you still REFUSE to listen… you disregard the fact that every group labeled “minority” is nowhere near the socio-economic status as whites and this is because of the categories of differences perpetuated by Europeans in this country.. namely YOUR founding fathers and early settlers.. YA DIG… give it rest dude

    • Bob Sten

      robyn,

      Wait. I said that indians and asians made more money than whites, and you said basically “but they hate being thought of as the model obedient minority”.

      Now you say “you disregard the fact that every group labeled “minority” is nowhere near the socio-economic status as whites”

      You are contradicting yourself. You now say that asians don’t make as much as whites? I thought you admitted that they do?

      Well, if you say that asians make less than whites, that is a lie (just another one of your lies). Must you really lie to rationalize your hatred of white people? Are you going to try to doctor the numbers now?

      This link shows that japanese in hawaii make more than whites. Much more. How is that, if whitey is oppressing all non whites in hawaii?

      http://www.hawaiibusiness.com/Hawaii-Business/October-2013/Which-Ethnic-Group-Makes-the-Most-Money/

      This next link references, not some left wing lunatic professor. It references not some “hate white people ethnic studies – emotional testimonies”, it references the Bureau of Labor Statistics. It YET AGAIN SHOWS THAT ASIANS MAKE MORE THAN WHITES IN THE U.S.

      http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/01/21/which-race-earns-most-in-us-the-numbers-may-surprise-you/

      How many more times must I disprove your “false dichotomy” of evil rich white “oppressors” oppressing poor non-whites?

      Stop lying woman. And do some research on your own for once.

      BTW. You want a great book about the brainwashing you are receiving in your “university”? Read the book “THE RAPE OF ALMA MATER”. Every idea you have parroted is well documented in that book.

  • robynbuckins

    who care Bob.. you sound like a broken record.. dribble dribble dribble…

  • robynbuckins

    btw you talk about tribalism… ???????? context okay.. I’m talking apples and you are talk oranges.. I’m talking about the structural framework of this country … you know its social institutions with respect to systems of oppression…. there is no arguing that this country is built on principles that were not originally afforded to African Americans and others.. and remain in effect to this very day… Like I said GO LEARN ABOUT PEOPLE .. go to the different communities or as we BLACK FOLK say “the hood”.. hahahahaha… go to Japanese town (wait there only are two left in this country given that they too were wiped out)… go to Chinatown …. why not discuss the enclaves… SO SO SO MUCH MORE that you fail to put into context because your white privilege blinds you….

    • Bob Sten

      Talk about TODAY robyn. Wake up. It’s not 1830 rip van winkle.

      • Bexcee

        I’m sure they honestly discuss this in Afrocentrism class: Actual quotes, links to original documents/statements/writings of the Founders and their positions/actions taken on ending the 200 yr pre-US founding history of owning slaves in America’s, & how they desired to end it. A bit different than Lincolns idea of rashly usurping states rights, thus causing the death of + 600,000. BTW..lets not resort to complaining about the source, just look up the documents as they speak for themselves. Just no one else would bother researching past opinion/stats in popular history books/$$$publishers, or if dug up, bother to share them with the American people. It upsets the neo-statists $$$Govco status-quo. http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=122

      • robynbuckins

        .. the past connects to the future.. and if you had enough sense Bob you would connect the dots though a historical timeline…that’s part of your problem and the reason why most of your responses are flawed

        • Ignorance is not bliss

          Social programming from the past builds on todays generation as well

        • Bob Sten

          The irish were colonized and impoverished by the english for over 600 years.

          Does that mean the past should impact the irish forever?

          Does it mean that the irish should blame all of their failings from here to eternity on the english?

          Is this reasonable?

          • robynbuckins

            that fact of the matter Bob is that the Irish has never faced legal prohibitions on asset ownership and citizenship as African American… Chinese.. Hispanics… and the one element that separates those two groups from AA is slavery…

          • Bob Sten

            The chinese succeed in america. How do you explain this robyn?

            If they are so persecuted, how are they succeeding?

            BTW, you can thank the irish for the freedom of black people in this country. If you really knew history, you would know that the irish were integral in providing soldiers for the north to defeat the south. Without irish soldiers, who knows what the outcome would have been.

            But, I’m sure you knew that already, didn’t you?????

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  • robynbuckins

    yeah Bob… take a look at institutional racism… oh wait racism doesn’t exist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJSTfKXDVrg

    • Bob Sten

      Robyn,

      Are you deaf? Are you serious?

      The guy planting the coke wasn’t even a cop. He was an informant, probably going to go to jail unless he gave the cops a bigger dog to arrest. So, the informant tried to plant drugs in the business owner’s shop.

      And did this shady informant successfully frame the black guy?

      NOOOOOOOO

      Who found him out? The COPS you tool!!!!!

      The cops found out, and are going to bust the informant, that’s why he is on the run now.

      God you are clueless.

      “Institutional racism” in this video?

      Nah, just a criminal trying to get out of trouble (Andrews).

      You are pretty desperate robyn.

      • Ignorance is not bliss
        • Ignorance is not bliss
          • Ignorance is not bliss

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuOmDjowrEo
            Overtly Racist Speech At Tea
            Party Immigration Rally

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVKNUK7hxuo
            GOP Tea-Party Racism
            Resurfaces at Anti-Obama KLAN Rallies

            http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2013/07/heres-shocker-new-study-finds-that.html
            The
            Immoral Minority, study Tea Party
            motivated by racism

            http://www.occupydemocrats.com/republicans-swear-racist/
            Tea Partiers Swear They Are Not Racist, But Their
            Actions Beg to Differ

            http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/19/study-uncovers-anti-black-attitudes-among-tea-party-supporters-but-not-members/
            Study uncovers anti-black attitudes among tea party supporters — but not
            members

          • Ignorance is not bliss
          • Bob Sten

            What are all these links for ignorance?

            To rationalize your hatred of whites?

            What is the point?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Booo, they are tea party links. your friends

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You said I am in the tea party. So why would I need links to read about the tea party if I am already in it?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            That’s the problem, with this politic affiliation BS. You do not know what your party is pushing. Here is the difference between you and I, I am independent. I look at links of both parties and I know both party have flaws. However, out of all the parties in the political realm. The Tea Party is pure evil. You would not know that because you don’t follow your party. You just shake your head yes and move along like a good little sheep.

            BAAAAAH

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Yes, I agree with everything the tea party says.

            What’s it to you?

            Gonna call me names for it? Oh no, please don’t. I’m so fazed by your endless name calling. Please don’t, please don’t.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            So many left wingers are so blatantly hypocritical it is painful. This again is why I became conservative some 8 years or so ago.

            The first video alleges some “damning information about so called conservative “racism”.

            I watched the video, and my response is …

            Are you kidding me?

            Attacks on obama were so called “racism” because he was compared to hitler, the devil, and called a liar?

            Really?

            Really?

            Really?

            Unfriggin-believable.

            Just google images with the following search terms:

            -bush liar
            -bush devil
            -bush hitler

            You will find hundreds of these pictures of Bush online.

            All these images brought to you by the same hypocritical morons that watch and are a part of msnbc.

            This is the problem with many on the left, and by extension, yourself.

            Why are you even responding to me? You have revealed yourself to be a vile hypocrite over, and over, and over again. You have zero credibility.

            Go look at those pictures again. You make me ill.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            You became a cons because they are ok with racism.

            The Tea Party has use racism from the beginning starting 2009, not just pictures of hitler But Obama and his family as monkeys. They have shout racism language. Did bush receive racism? the answer is No,

            You are so socially programmed it almost funny.

            Second, have you read the Tea Parties agenda?
            Have you been to a Rep web site? If you have, you would know how much racism is thrown around on those sites. Then again you are ok with racism.

            Are you also ok with Dan savage telling white people to get guns to kill blacks?

            How about Michele Bachmann saying all black children should be slaves?

            Do you agree with the Jim crow laws and the tea party fight to try to keep alive?

            Do you think the killing of these kids is justified even though they had the “American” right to listen to their music as loud as they wanted in their own car?

            Do about all the anti-black statements Dunn made before the murder?

            Do you think all the racially motivated crime in florida are ok? LOL, you pointed out the mob statement from Whitegirlbleedalot, but you are ok with all the murders and injustice that has lead to the mobs uprising?

            You are pure BS BOB, the poster child for Social Programming!

          • Ignorance is not bliss
          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Wow, the world is out to get you.

            Booo!

            You said “not just pictures of hitler But Obama and his family as monkeys. They have shout racism language. Did bush receive racism? the answer is No,”

            Again, you are a vile, delusional hypocrite. Look up bush chimp images on google.

            You will find thousands of pictures portraying bush as a chimp.

            So, you are a liar there, not just a hypocrite, a liar. You say this was done to obama, but not bush. You will deny reality.

            You will DENY those pics exist….but they do
            You will deny the tribalism of blacks…but it’s there
            You will deny the tribalism of yourself…but it’s blatant

            I can’t believe what an unabashed, lying hypocrite you are.

            Some tea party whites are tribal…big deal. I can’t find thousands of blacks in america that have similar tribal views of whites.

            But you deny that too. You are so blind.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Tribal or racist they can’t be both, As for the other BS everyone else has see the Tea Party BS beside you and fox :)

            I guess it was to hard to answer the questions. good job on deflecting :)

            I understand BOB why you can’t answer the questions. If you say “yes” to the racist BS your party spews you are racist just like them the other Tea Partiers .

            If you say “No” you don’t agree with the Racist BS your party spews I have just beaten your tribal argument.

            LOL……. Someones in a rock in a hard place!!! What’s Answer the questions.. Or are you going to stall and deflect again. No generalized answers Please.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You rely on the words “racist” and “racism”, rather than logic and debate.

            This is one of the huge failures of the left in my view. An over-reliance on calling people “ists”, or “isms”.

            To make my point clear, I ask you to do this test….

            Try to make all your points without using the terms “racist”, “racism”, “sexist”, “sexism”, “bigot”, or “bigotry” for the next two years. Try, for just two years to do this.

            I bet you cannot do it. You so heavily rely on painting your opponents with these terms, that you have almost nothing to offer without them. You are a tribal mudslinger, delusional, and in denial.

            Just one more reason I moved from left to right.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            So you can’t answer the questions? LOL, i knew you were going to deflect.

            The debate is on “racist”, “racism”, Social programming Vs tribalism, and the BS tea party. I guess liberalism but the only one arguing that is you.

            Do me a favor, answer a question without deflect or generalizing.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You failed. You used the terms “racist” and “racism” twice in that last response.

            Two years? You can’t even go a day without using those terms.

            Try a little harder.

            What questions did I not answer specifically?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            How about you try not generalizing or deflecting everything. How about answering the questions. All your comments are a redirection. nothing with facts.

            Second, the discussion is about racism, social programming Verses Tribalism, the tea party and liberals.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            I wrote a thousand things.

            One which was that the irish, under the english catholic penal laws could not vote.

            That was a fact. So, you are wrong again.

            You said I gave no facts, I just gave you one of many that I stated previously. It’s not my fault you don’t actually read my posts.

        • Bob Sten

          You post a link to a far left wing online site as “proof” that the tea party supports racial profiling? Seriously?

          If you think gawker is unbiased, do you also think Fox News is unbiased?

          Let me guess your childish answer…..”everyone that agrees with me is unbiased, and everyone that disagrees with me is biased”

          The raving megalomania of the simpleton….

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Actually no, look at all my links please. Like i said in my statement. The politicians from the right provide their own proof. Bob you know your party and how twisted it is

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            I think i killed your “tribalism Vs racism Vs social programming statements”, Bob.

            Next opponent, I think Bob is finish:) I still love you though even if you practice tea party politics

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            No, I know some news sites are bias but there is a different between lying and being bias you know that. No, you watch fox nevermind :)

          • Bob Sten

            Give me some lies from fox…..

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            look them up now, you seen my links

          • Bob Sten

            Your links are a combination of far left wing blathering.

            ….and

            bias that is typical of fox and msnbc.

            There are no lies.

            Don’t make me watch an hour of boring videos.

            Tell me specifically where fox lied????

            Bias yes. But fox is no more biased than msnbc. In fact, I would argue than msnbc is more biased than fox. Fox invites left wingers as guests all the time. They even have left wingers employed full time in front of the camera.

            I have never seen msnbc bring on strong conservatives, NOR have I seen any conservatives that are employed full time in front of the camera at msnbc.

            Thus, they are even less balanced than fox.

            But you don’t refer to msnbc bias as “lies”, you only refer to fox bias as “lies”.

        • Bob Sten

          gawker is left wing garbage.

          They love to generalize. Something you say you oppose ignorance.

  • robynbuckins

    I bet outside of Dr. King.. you don’t any thing else about Afrocentrism.. you don’t have to know because the dominate majority rules and all others are measure by white standard.. GET REAL and give it a rest dude seriously

  • robynbuckins

    and who said I was a liberal….like I said more and more assumptions are your part.. you are full of them

    • Bob Sten

      So you are conservative? In the tea party maybe?

  • robynbuckins

    also you are wrong when it comes to each group just promoting their own because groups that are oppressed can’t uplift one without the other… YOU HAVE A LOT TO LEARN….you see the world through “indvidualism” .. but oppressed groups that really know how to overcome obstacles know that it takes “collectivism” …. the REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED… btw I think the right one might be ethnocentrism or try enculturation or try hegemonic .. depending on the context but tribalism.. hahahahahaha

  • robynbuckins

    It seems I am gonna have to give you a history lesson on how Europeans forcibly took others possessions… removed them from their land… took away their culture.. language and on and on.. and somehow that did not manifest into the mess that still exists today,…. you know I don’t like stooping to attacks on others not even against people such as yourself.. but BOB you are DELUSIONAL and that’s an understatement.. hahahahaha

    • Bob Sten

      Robyn,

      All europeans took possessions of others? It’s you that needs a history lesson robyn.

      Whining people like you that can never let go of the past never cease to amaze me. The ignorance. The one sided reporting. It’s all so self righteous and distorted.

      Firstly, if you are talking about colonialism, not all europeans were colonial powers.

      The irish were colonized by the english, so were the scots and welsh. The scots, irish, and welsh had no colonies, neither did the swedes, neither did the swiss, or the finns, or the norwegians, or the danes, or the poles, or the italians (other than a short stint in ethiopia) or the eastern europeans.

      In fact, the eastern europeans were colonized by the Turks. Yet, to you, all white people must look alike in your eyes, so you ASSume that all of their histories are the same. They aren’t. How are the swedes, norwegians, danes, poles, austrians, swiss, irish, scots, welsh and others of today “guilty” of what people from other countries did generations ago?

      Are you “guilty” because of what every black criminal did past and present? Oh, no. There is one standard for you, and another for your hated white people, right?

      Did you know that the Mongols of east asia raped, murdered, and plundered caucasian lands for centuries? Did you know that their armies marched all the way west to france? Did you know that if it wasn’t for a coalition of italians and germans defeating the mongols in france, most of europe today would probably be asian?

      Did you know that much of the present day steppe in western china, and west of china used to be caucasian lands (Persian), but it was taken over by asians?

      Lands have been fought over for centuries. Some gained and some lost. Do you think the asians of today “owe” reparations to the caucasians for the lands they “stole” and now control?

      Oh no, you would never want to support your hated Caucasians, would you?

      Go learn about the different peoples of europe robyn. They aren’t the monolithic, monocultural group you make them out to be.

      Before the colonial powers of europe victimized any non-whites in the past, they victimized other europeans first.

      The biggest victims of Europeans? Other Europeans!!!!

      What was the biggest war in history robyn, with over 50 million killed? It was world war II. It was white people killing other white people.

      What is the biggest war prior to that? It was world war I. Again, it was white people killing other white people.

      No, blacks, hispanics, and asians are not the biggest victims of whites silly. Whites have been the biggest victims of whites throughout history. You are just too busy whining over the past to figure it out.

      Let’s talk about slavery to while we are at it. Slavery existed on every continent robyn. Whites were the first to make slavery illegal on a wide scale.

      Another thing. Did you know that when slavery was legal in the US only 7% of whites owned slaves? That means that 93% of whites back then owned NO SLAVES.

      Yet you, and ignorant people like yourself, go around with this chip on your shoulder about slavery, lumping all white people together, when 93% of today’s white population in the US had ancestors that didn’t even own slaves.

      Your hate blinds you to true history. You have no clue. I am sure you could have a phd in black victimology…..but it’s nonsense built on half truths, propaganda, and sleight of hand.

      Real history isn’t as, ummmm, black and white as you make it out to be.

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        Now bob has stop arguing with you and started to be nasty. he completely closed now.

        Bob please stop saying real history, especially if you can confront the true and understand how it impacts today society.

        • Bob Sten

          ignorance,

          When slavery was legal in the US, 7% of whites owned slaves.

          93% didn’t own slaves.

          So, why do you expect ALL white people to feel “guilty” from what 7% of DEAD white people did?

          Shouldn’t 93% of white people not feel “guilty” for anything?

          What does a white child born today have to do with what a tiny minority of people did 180 years ago? I already know your response ignorance. You will shift the goal post and claim that slavery isn’t the problem, you will then claim that the problem is white tribalism. Yet, this isn’t a problem, all groups do it. What do you expect, all other people to be tribal and that’s cool, but white people should not be tribal? Is that what you are wanting?

          Is the past going to control black people forever ignorance?

          1,000 years from now, will black people still be blaming all of their failures on slavery, on whites, or on some other group?

          There are almost no white people in guyana. Who do poor blacks blame for their poverty in that country? Indians!

          Just like here, in guyana, blacks fail to take responsibility for what they do now. They blame all of their failings on other people. It’s getting old for many americans….

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            I have all ready explained social programming. I can’t force you to actually read or take the time to think about. Which is why you will always be a sheep

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You ask for my respect.

            You claim I shouldn’t generalize, but you claim ALL members of the tea party are evil. Therefore you are a hypocrite.

            You claim the tribalism of whites is wrong and should be condemned, but you don’t claim the tribalism of nonwhites is wrong or should be condemned. Therefore you are a hypocrite.

            Sorry, but I tend to not respect hypocrites ignorance.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Man, please read a statement. I don’t want your respect, I said take your time and read and analyze what has been written. I have destroyed your Tribalism argument already . It’s BS The Tea Party is a Hate group and you know it. Once again you have not provided any fact showing they are not. just”O i know you are but what am I” BS. Wow your really suck are arguing. You state the same bs even after it’s been beaten. You don’t prove any points or being links and your redirect or deflect everything. Your arguments are BS.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            You have proven tribalism doesn’t exist?

            You said “its bs”. You proved nothing.

            Look at the tribal conflicts in northern ireland, israel, rwanda, the conflict between indians and pakistanis, between the chinese and malays, between the chinese and japanese, between blacks and mexicans in the LA area. I could go on and on.

            There is a tribal conflict going on on every continent.

            And you say you “proved” tribalism doesn’t exist?

            Huhhh?

            Earth to ignorance, earth to ignorance……are you there?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            You have not proved anything. You just spouted a lot of generalized BS again.

          • Bob Sten

            Have you ever travelled outside the US ignorance, or read about tribal conflicts around the world?

            Are you incapable of educating yourself about them?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Really, A guy that has never been anywhere, who is for racism is telling me that I am not worldly. That’s rich….

            You can’t even prove your own points….
            Tea Party logic, deny, Blame Obama, use racism, keep posting the same BS, and Facts are for Libs….

            You are doing well.

            Hey, Tim Wise is white, why didn’t you jump on his coat tail? O that’s right he is not oking racism..

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Tim wise hates white gentiles for some reason. Why would I follow him?

            Do you follow this guy just because he is black?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KisCn1TyOc

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            According to your tribalism Bs you should support all and only whites correct?

            I do not believe in your idea, I believe you have been socially programmed to think as you do.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance says

            “According to your tribalism Bs you should support all and only whites correct?”

            That was dumb. Wow, just wow.

            Let’s say the indians and pakistanis are in a tribal war (actually they are if you travelled a bit, you could see it for yourself).

            Let’s say an indian was seen as a sellout, an uncle tom, a traitor for the other side. By your incorrect ASSumption, indians should support the uncle tom indian. But in reality they DON’T. They side with those that back their tribe, not traitors. This is why Gandhi was killed. A hindu thought he was a sellout.

            Just like you despise black uncle toms.

            And mexicans hate coconuts.

            And jews hate self hating jews.

            Get it now clueless?

            I don’t like white liberals, they are wimps, suckers, naive, indoctrinated little uncle toms. I used to be one. Now I can see. I was once blind, now the world is clear to me.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, I think your definition of tribalism change every other comment.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Where was I inconsistent specifically?

            Give me a sentence. Im sure it simply needs clarification.

            You are the hypocrite here. I am consistent.

  • robynbuckins

    Happy Valentine’s Day Bob.. hahahahaha… btw your use of the word “effeminate” is telling….. remember when I told you about categories of differences and how they are constructed and maintained/transformed… and intersect race, gender, sexuality, class.. UMMMMM.. the more you talk .. the more you prove my point… again Happy Valentine’s Day.. go out to the hood and party…. hahahaha

  • Bexcee

    Dang. I’m from Fl and this was NOT on the news. At least not like it should have been. Dangerous not to report this. New: Black mob violence at state fair in Tampa. http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/new-black-mob-violence-at-state-fair-in-tampa/

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      White girl bleed a lot is a racist site that glenn beck helps. I guarantee if their were Sites dedicated to Whites that commit crimes WGBAL would die out.

      • Bob Sten

        ignorance,

        The black mob attack happened in tampa.

        You are simply in denial.

        If it was a white mob in tampa attacking blacks, you would treat the story completely differently.

        Your tribalism revealed….YET AGAIN!

        • Ignorance is not bliss

          Actually, White on white crime really is not reported. You know that bob. Second, it’s a racist site. You know that too. Tribalism is BS. That fact that a post came from a racist site that does not report anything but black crimes on white is stupid. IT’S A RACISTS site RAN BY A TEA PARTIER. Glenn Beck.

          It’s not an example of tribalism. It’s an example of social programming and how you are programmed. You are a member of this racist site, If I remember correctly. Which bring further proof of Social Programming. Sorry, BOB you are the weakest link.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance says

            “Actually, White on white crime is not really reported”

            In roughly 60 seconds, I found this white on white crime online, reported by FOX no less.

            http://fox13now.com/2014/02/18/girl-charged-with-murder-in-utah-county-deputys-shooting/

            So, you are a liar and a fraud ignorance, congratulations.

            I am a “member” of this site? Huhh? I just started looking at it. Ignorance, are you on medication?

            Not only are you a hypocrite and blind, you are delusional too.

            Is everyone in the tea party out to get you? Do they follow you around your city?

            Are they tapping your phone? Have you seen a doctor about your delusions?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, tea partiers do what they do, but you know that :)

            In that 60 second you searched, how much white on black crimes sites did you have to search through. Better question, how my sites did you see that only shown white on black crime or white on white crime. I am going to say “NONE”.

            How many sites did you find that show white on white crime, one? LOL, you found an article. Is that really evidence that white crime is reported as much as black on white crime?

            Social Programming friend. Nice try….

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, you are the Tea Partier, can you tell me why the Tea Party hates minorities? I could careless about them. I hope every tea Partier is thrown out the office they hold.

            You are a tea Partier so you are going to deny the acts they do, not because you agree with them or tribalism. it’s because you have been programmed to think that way. Social Programming…. It’s not a new invention.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Yes, I am el presidente of the tea party mrs. heavily medicated.

            I came up with every policy they stand for.

            In fact, I drew every single poster from the tea party that you get your self righteous little panties in a bunch over.

            Sarcasm….

            Even if all of that was true ignorance, what the heck would you do about it? Whine like a child about it?

            You certainly won’t change my mind with your lies, double standards, arrogant tribal hypocrisy and blindness.

            Trying to “convert” me back to being a naive little effeminate white liberal? Not workin.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            No, I just wanted you to tell the truth. Your argument is for a political agenda. further proof of social programming.

            When you get angry BOB, you stop deflecting. not a good move for a Tea Partier. It’s goes against all your principles. “Lie, Blame Obama, use facts, these are all Tea Party NO Nos :)

            Beside, you are just as “naive little effeminate white person on the conservative side”. The only different is you embrace hate now.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Yes, I embrace whatever you say ignorance,

            that’s what you do…

            you dislike someone’s opinion and that makes them full of “hate” in your simple little world.

            Disagreement is not disagreement it’s “hate”.

            Tribalism for all groups is fantastic, but when whites do it, it’s somehow magically “hate”.

            When blacks, mexicans, asians, jews, arabs look out for their interests, it’s commendable and understandable, but when whites do it it’s “hate”.

            You are a tool ignorance. A real corker. I rarely meet people so blatantly hypocritical.

            LOL. You even say I have “a political agenda.” There you go with the mudslinging again.

            Oh, and you don’t have a political agenda? So does obama, bush, mayor daley, feinstein, boxer, mccain, and millions of others. Why is this a problem for you if I have a political “agenda”? Who do you think you are, the thought police?

            I’ll tell you why. Because you’re a left wing fascist. You want to silence dissent.

            This quote so fits you. It’s from William F Buckley:

            “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”

            Its called freedom of speech….freedom of thought….a free flow of ideas.

            You cannot handle it. You command that others back away from their beliefs. Why? Because you are a control freak and a fascist.

            I have no problem knowing there are hypocritical liars like you out their with their shallow beliefs. Its no big deal.

            However, it truly bothers you to know that there are people out here like me that have opinions that you don’t like.

            You’re no different than lenin, stalin, mao, and pol pot….it’s just you haven’t gotten around to murdering those that have different opinions than yourself yet.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            BS,

            1. I sat here and argue with you about tribalism. The only thing you offered was generalizations and deflections.

            2. I read all your idea and asked questions in the beginning. I even read argument you have had with other people to understand what you were trying to say.

            3. I offer a different opinion of what I though was going on. “Social Programming” which is a far better idea and i offer a solution to fix this ongoing issue. Much more than you did.

            4. I provided links and cited my information. You provided maybe 2 and a yahoo answer link, I mean really?

            5. When you started trying to make tribalism and racism one and the same, I debunk that BS. what really annoyed me about this part of the argument was that you said their was no racism and there was only tribalism. Which means you are oking racism. In fact you are oking all hate acts regardless of any color. You are aid death without even knowing the cause or why an issue has risen. You believe oppression is ok. You are for injustice because of skin color. Your argument was ludicrous and I called it.

            6. Someone added a Racist site to the argument, When I argued that the site was a racist and there for bias, you jumped in and said it was tribalism. Once again oking racism.

            7. You have change your definition of tribalism several times throughout the argument with me and robynbukins

            8. You did not once, try to understand social programming or ask questions.

            9. When I said the tea party was racist you could not bring anything to the table to prove me wrong but generalizations. In fact everything you argued has been mostly a generalizations or deflections. Not only with me but others as well.

            10. When I pointed out flaws in your idea you could not argue them.

            11. You can’t even answer questions.

            12. You fight for a party and you don’t even know what they represent Or how factions of the Tea Party that use hate for political means. You can even bring up an example of the Tea Party going against minority hate.

            13. And worst of all your are a hypocrite calling others a hypocrite, It’s kind of funny.

            14. In all my argument beside the ones with the Tea Party, I have made the statement “No ALL”, so and so are whatever the argument was about. You on the other hand BOB, have generalized everyone at times than in other statements say generalizing whites was wrong. “Hypocritical” !?!

            You are BS, BOB and It is not I who lost the arguments here. Everyone can read your BS and decide for themselves. FYI freedom of speech does not mean freedom from reprisal. Meaning you ideas are pure BS just like the Tea Party. :) You are the one promoting murder. You allow hate crimes by pitching hate and acceptance of hate. People like you are just as responsible for the death of a teens as people like Dan savage telling people to kill other because of skin color. You sat on the shoulders of Dunn as he pumped shots into the car of the unarmed teens that playing their music. People like you sat in the jury during the Zimmerman verdict. People like your are responsible for these idiots actions.

            Later BOB, Big idea my A..

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance says

            “FYI freedom of speech does not mean freedom from reprisal.”

            Typical left wing fascist threat. You disagree with me, I will harm you physically. How deep.

            Then you bleat on about me promoting murder.

            You’re a real hoot. Hypocrite.

            Go read a book on ethnocentrism and tribalism ignorance. You will find you are wrong on most of your views about politics and why people behave the way they do.

            “Social programming” is nothing but left wing psychobabble meant to attack whites and make them feel guilty for stuff they didn’t do. It explains nothing about the tribal conflict between:

            -indians and pakistanis
            -arabs and jews
            -irish and english
            -chinese and japanese
            -chinese and southeast asians
            -blacks and indians in guyana
            -blackfeet indians vs crow

            or any other tribal conflicts around the world.

            My insights will predict outcomes of how people react in these conflict areas.

            Your anti-white, western, left wing psycho babble only “works” for laying all blame for all the world’s problems on europeans. ……which is a bs idea in itself.

            Explain to the readers here how your “social programming” psychobabble pertains to those conflict areas listed above..

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            More Bs, i am done with arguing you.

            You do know you that the only hypocrite on this page at the moment.

            Bye BOB, have fun hating minorities and living in a hate filled life.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Yes, that’s me. I don’t hate my fellow white people. I stand by my tribe. Just like blacks stand up for other blacks….like hispanics stand up for their tribe……like asians stand up for their tribe.

            I stand up for my tribe….like everyone else does, and that makes me “evil”.

            OK ignorance, have it your way. I’m evil because I act like the majority of humanity.

            But being labelled “evil”, or any other name doesn’t faze me one bit.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorant,

            I didn’t need to do anything but disprove your LIE.

            You said “Actually, White on white crime really is not reported”

            And I proved you terribly, pathetically, desperately wrong in all of 60 seconds.

            How many times must you be proven wrong before you own up to being a liar?

            Yet you accuse fox of lying? How unfrigginbelievable. You are a sad, sad joke.

            Who made you a liar ignorance? Was it white people that did it?

            Is it the “history of 7% of whites owning slaves” that caused you to be a fraud and a liar?

            Is it white “oppression” that causes you to go to message boards and blatantly lie about others?

            It is white people that cause you to act in such a dishonorable, disgusting, and deceitful way?

            Or, are you just a liar because you are a liar? White people’s fault, or yours? That is the question.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            LOL, that’s a you and your tribalism. I see you deflected once again.

            Bob you are great at avoiding things you should be a politician:)

            I didn’t fail at showing fox lies, you seen the links before Disqes delete them.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Where are the links showing fox has lied and been proven to be lying in a court of law????

            ?

            ?

            ?

            ?

            ?

            ?

            ?

            ?

            You cannot provide the links because you lied. Why must you lie to try to get people to listen to your nonsense? Doesn’t that say something about your viewpoint and your credibility?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            Booo, you seen them! Nice try, look them up now or tell disqse to stop deleting my links.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Nobody is deleting links. There are no links because you cannot prove your point.

            Fox has not been found to be lying in a court of laws as you allege.

            You’re a liar, and an ideological fraud.

        • Ignorance is not bliss

          Aren’t the racist people in florida running around shooting people. You must have missed all that while you were admiring the BS racist site, Social Programming. friend..

          Once again, not all white are racist, just as not all blacks are racist. Only in your BS definition of Tribalism defines everyone as racist. Which is not true. Well besides the tea Party. Let me clarify when i say Tea Party I mean the Tea Party only not all Reps or every right winger.

  • Bexcee

    It’s Valentines Day. The day that Frederick Douglass chose to be his birth day. Such a wise man with great determination and spirit. This is my favorite speech of his. So sad he had to choose a day because he didn’t know what his birthday was. Break up of family is a culture killer. Slave owners, neighborhoods or Govt are no substitute for Fathers who protect, provide and sacrifice their wants for their own family’s provision because ‘its the right thing to do’. We can see that across American today in the neighborhoods, jails, rehabs, dysfunctional families, sexual abuse/physical abuse/perversion in younger and younger ages, in the media/arts/corrupt govt/lawbreakers/ schools, etc. Generational fatherlessness is not what keeps civilized society functioning. http://t.co/0QJ2kagBM5

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      Social programming, scroll down I have already killed this argument :) Thanks for helping my argument. Bob please take a lot at this, Prime example of social programming. A site primarily to hate blacks. This it has no mention of any white crimes or white mobs. This site does not talk about all the senseless killing done by whites using the ” stand your ground laws”. The site does talk about people being shot because of their races, police injustice or racial profiling. It just hate by the Tea Party. Search the site. Glenn Beck is a Co owner or co writer . Does this site fit in to your theory of tribalizm? It does in Social Programming. Many of those that go to this site are those that have no contact with anyone outside of their race. (did I say that before?) This is a pure hate site. “http://whitegirlbleedalot.com/” THX Bexcee

      • Bob Sten

        ignorance,

        There are lots of websites, blogs, etc, that preach contempt and disdain (aka “hate” in your book) for white people.

        Again, this is tribalism.

        If the alleged anti-black websites are bad, why aren’t the anti-white ones equally bad in your view?

        Both types of sites are nothing more than tribalism. While I may disagree with their content, I think both types of groups have a right to have their opinions.

        You, in typical hypocritical left wing fashion…..think your opponents should be silenced, but your allies should be given free reign.

        You are the hypocrite here yet again.

        For example, I think fox and msnbc (opposing sides) should both be allowed to operate…..you no doubt, would prefer to silence fox news, but not msnbc.

        The hypocrisy of liberals never ends. I know. I used to be far left (communist). After seeing the duplicity on so many issues from the left, I became more conservative. It is people like you that killed my liberalism ignorance. Pat yourself on the back for that.

        • Ignorance is not bliss

          LOL do you really what you write? You really have no Idea what you are talking about do you?

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            1. When I was speaking about White Girl bleeds a lot a “racist site”. I also pointed out. THERE ARE NO SITES THAT ONLY SHOW WHITE ON BLACK CRIME OR WHITE ON WHITE CRIME. ONCE AGAIN SOCIAL PROGRAMMING. Views that distort or mold reality. Kind of like how you are trying to use tribalism. “Social Programming”

            People like you and Glenn Beck who owns the site and contributes. Want to pass this BS. You want to know racism, divide racism or race relations. Why do you hate minorities so much BOB?

            Tea partier logic, WOW. They shout “We not racist, then post the most racist BS…… LOL since 2009 Tea Partiers have use racism to gain members. This in not tribalism, it’s social programming BOB. It’s been going on for along time.

            2. LOL hypocritical left wing???? Guess What I have example of YOUR parties BS on this page:) If you can’t prove your points BOB it’s not worth making them. If you can’t argue your points BOB, why redirect when being question about them?

            3. Fox Lies.
            How many times has every other news station been in court for LYING compared to FOX? You don’t know because you don’t do research. Do you know how many time FOX has been in court for lying ? Do you know why fox is allowed to lie? Did you know FOX gets paid to sell you false facts? How many other station do that? you do not know do you.

            4. Stop with all the generalized BS answers. You are not fooling anyone.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            1. Tribalism. Nothing more, nothing less

            2. Yes, hypocritical. I have you pegged. You want to silence only those you disagree with, fascist.

            3. Fox has been proven in a court of law to be lying many times?

            Give me links to ANYTHING BUT THIS COURT CASE….WHICH CLEARLY SHOW THAT FOX WAS NOT FOUND GUILTY OF LYING.

            http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120101094156AABdQ7y

            Please, I am begging you. Show me the court cases where fox was found guilty of lying…. do it! Do it!!!!!

            Show me

            Show me

            Show me

            If you can’t, you have proven yet again, you are the liar here.

          • Ignorance is not bliss

            It’s was there. LOL you bring a link from yahoo answers LOL! i gave you to much credit when I said you were smart LOL. That’s way to much ammo for me to capitalize on. I feel bad just thinking about using it.

            You haven’t pegged anything you are a relic for the stone ages that want racism to stay alive

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance,

            Yep, tribalism is alive and well. That’s OK by me. Especially if it’s for my tribe. I didn’t make the world the way it is, I just follow what I see everywhere.

            You failed to prove fox lied.

            Where are your links to the court cases where fox allegedly lied???

            Show me

            Show me liar

            Show me

            You can’t because, like bush, you lied!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Own it!

          • Voice Of Reason

            Because white on white and white on black crime os so low.

          • Bob Sten

            ignorance says:

            “LOL do you ready what you write?”

            That would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic.

  • Ignorance is not bliss

    http://thegrio.com/2014/02/14/uclas-black-law-students-struggle-with-lack-of-diversity/#.Uv6MMpks-ak.twitter black students attending the UCLA School of Law participated in a video, sharing what their experiences have been like attending a mostly white college.

  • Ignorance is not bliss

    Thats all BS.

  • robynbuckins

    who cares Bob you still at it.. get a life…hashahahaha

  • robynbuckins

    hahahahaha OMG you made my day .. thank you sweetie..

  • Bob Sten

    robyn,

    So how do you want this remedied? Have white taxpayers WHOSE ANCESTORS NEVER OWNED SLAVES pay people who never were slaves?

    That’s justice in your eyes?

    Do you want white people to stop going to college for 100 years, and have taxpayers pay for all black people to go to college? Do you think this would remedy things, and black people would finally take responsibility for themselves after 100 years of doing this?

    It’s clear that you want to penalize white people somehow, and reward black people somehow, so please provide me the specifics of how you would remedy what happened a couple of hundred years ago…….

    • robynbuckins

      Now it’s the Chinese let me give you a history lesson with respect to that….

    • robynbuckins

      Even though Asian immigrants have high poverty rates, American born Asians have mov into professional positions and as a whole has moved closest to economic parity with whites (median income of Asians in certain circumstances are higher than Whites), glass ceilings still persists and as Wen Ho Lee, The Chinese-American nuclear scientist who was falsely accused of espionage in 2002 found out, Asians are still defined by race and branded as perpetual foreigners.

      • Bob Sten

        robyn,

        Does your whining ever end? You are a broken record.

        Asians and indians both make more on average than whites in the US.

        Period!!

        You cannot refute it.

        • robynbuckins

          Merry go round and round Bob “tribalism” has nothing to do with structural racism.. well maybe it does

          • Bob Sten

            robyn,

            How many times must I say this? There is no such thing as racism. Only tribalism.

            Blacks are tribal, so are mexicans, and asians, and pretty much every group.

            Now, you want to talk about structural tribalism TODAY?

            Where is the structural tribalism today? Whites favoring other whites? Jews favoring other jews? Blacks favoring other blacks? Hispanics favoring hispanics? How is this “structural”?

            How is any of that “structural”? Define what you mean by “structural” tribalism….

          • robynbuckins

            Bob and that’s why you can’t understand what I am saying.. you are blind and in obvious denial. and it’s useless talking to you…if you can’t understand how the the systems of oppression and privilege interconnect and how the systems of inequality are maintained as oppression through the role of social institutions language and at times violence.. THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER.. you truly need to open your eyes to the world.. Racism is about behavior OKAY… it is learned..

          • Bob Sten

            robyn,

            You said “if you can’t understand how the the systems of oppression and privilege interconnect and how the systems of inequality are maintained as oppression through the role of social institutions language and at times violence.”

            Why do all these alleged things not happen to asians or indians in america? They aren’t white after all.

            You’ve never answered this question.

            Why do some groups succeed and others don’t?

            If not being white is such an alleged handicap, how are asians and indians unfazed?

          • robynbuckins

            Tribalism has no place in this discussion. If anything, it is ethnocentrism that you refer to but that doesn’t mean that racism doesn’t exist.

          • Bob Sten

            What is the different between ethnocentrism and so called “racism” in your book robyn?

          • robynbuckins

            well Bob I see that you back to insults.. that’s typically what happens when a persons experiencing
            DISSONANCE and really doesn’t have any GET BACK (as my children say)… hahahahaha

          • robynbuckins

            Again: A fundamental component in examining constructions of difference and systems of inequality is *critical thinking* about the social constructs on which systems of inequality rely. In order to do this you must be able to identify and challenge assumptions, in particular YOUR OWN; you must have awareness of your place and time in your culture because when asking questions about aspects of culture, you need to be aware of your own standpoint; otherwise you SEE NOTHING ELSE; you must be able to search for alternative ways of thinking even if it brings you DISSONANCE; and last but not least you must be able to reflect on your analysis.. For the entire time you and I have been on this merry go around.. I have cut and past all your responses in order that I might take a look more critically in what you say IN ORDER TO see the world through your eyes because at first glance if most people think like you…. we are in the world of trouble when it comes to others’ reality in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA… BLESS UP

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          • robynbuckins

            what isn’t real is reverse racism.. hahaha

          • Bob Sten

            There isn’t racism or so called reverse racism.

            There is just tribalism

          • robynbuckins

            and if racism didn’t exist .. you wouldn’t advocate and spread your stereotypical beliefs about other groups

          • Bob Sten

            robyn,

            All whites are guilty of some imaginary crime in your mind. Don’t talk to me about stereotyping.

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    • robynbuckins

      also with respect to the Irish (your earlier comment) they never face legal prohibitions on asset ownership and citizenship as Chinese, African Americans and Hispanics…

      • Bob Sten

        robyn,

        Go read about irish history. They were prevented from all kinds of asset ownership in ireland by the english. So you are ignorant about that too.

    • robynbuckins

      oh yeah I forgot Native Americans should have been included ..

      • Bob Sten

        I am of Choctaw descent too. You don’t need to speak to me of native american history. I likely know more about it than you do.

    • robynbuckins

      and btw I’m not proofreading what I just wrote.. I’m tired.. I’m going to feed my husband and watch the NBA all-star game.. BTW I remember when Blacks game into the NBA and white America labeled them all as thugs.. drug dealers… hahahahaha how’s that for reality…

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  • Bob Sten

    robyn,

    Your tribalism blinds you to many things, especially the successes of other so called minority groups and the failures of your own tribe. You live in this fairy tale land of scapegoating white people…..believing there is this vast conspiracy of white people to oppress blacks and hispanics, but somehow these conspiratorial white oppressors let asians and indians become wealthy…..even wealthier than whites themselves.

    These conspiratorial white oppressors even created so called affirmative action to give preference to blacks over whites in government jobs, college entrance lower requirements, easier access to home loans, small business loans, and a whole host of other giveaways. What kind of crummy conspirators whites must be to pass these kinds of laws?

    I am mostly white, and I can tell you without a doubt, most whites don’t ever think or obsess about black people the way you pretend they do. Most whites just go about their daily lives trying to make ends meet. Not some vast conspiracy in the least.

    Two thousand years from now, many blacks will likely be blaming others for their misfortunes in the US (just like black people do in guyana….blaming indians for their problems). If there aren’t many whites around, they will probably be blaming asians or indians or some other successful groups that out-compete them. I know it’s uncomfortable for you to hear, but it’s the truth.

    To say that whites have perpetually benefited from this or that is a stretch. Families go through successful and not so successful times in different generations.

    There were many middle class black families in the 1940′s, and 1950′s, that are now poverty stricken, living paycheck to paycheck. Is this because of slavery? Hardly. Similarly, there are many white families that were middle class in the same era, but today also live in poverty, living paycheck to paycheck.

    Whites don’t blame the past for this, or another race of people. Black people like you do. It is much easier to scapegoat whites than to take responsibility for your own decisions and mistakes in life apparently.

    Families that were once extremely wealthy, have lost everything. Fortunes are made and lost in every generation. Along those lines, black home ownership rates declined when blacks moved from the south to the north (both blacks and whites were less likely to own homes in the cities). Similarly, both black and white home ownership declined during the depression.

    You act as though every single white person was a lawyer, accountant, doctor, etc, with lots of property, and lots of wealth. This is absurd. Many whites in the early 1900′s, lived in squalid conditions, in tenements without a dime to their names. Working in dangerous conditions in factories, where the factory owners could fire them on a whim and choose from hundreds of others that were willing to take the job for even less money. They weren’t wealthy building machines in the least.

    In this Forbes article (it’s written by a black person, so you can go ahead and read it), the author also speaks about a wealth disparity because blacks don’t buy stocks like whites do. Why don’t they? According to the author, part of it is the tribalism I speak of. The author thinks there are too “few” black people working in investment houses and for brokers, so other blacks won’t buy stocks. Sounds pretty tribal to me!

    The author also speaks about lower property values in black neighborhoods. Why? Who wants to live around people that are more likely to commit murder, etc (See the title story of the thread we are on). Admit it robyn, would you rather live in a neighborhood that was 95% black, or 95% asian, or 95% hispanic, or 95% white?

    Is it white people’s fault that many black neighborhoods don’t want to be lived in by whites, blacks, or asians?

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesleadershipforum/2012/12/10/how-home-ownership-keeps-blacks-poorer-than-whites/

    You cannot get to the future being so obsessed with the past. The japanese, chinese and others have MOVED ON and are more successful now than white gentiles in this country.

    If you want your tribe to succeed, do two things:

    1. emulate asians and indians

    2. stop begging for whites to not be tribal. Every group is tribal and this is the norm. Groups compete against one another around the globe. Asians and indians can compete successfully in the individual and tribal arena…..so can blacks, if you start looking towards the future instead of living in the past. I know it’s easier to blame others for the problems of your tribe, but it won’t make your people succeed.

    If you disagree, please explain to me why you think blacks are incapable of emulating the success of indians and asians.

  • King David

    actually the article is actually saying young black men are convicted 14 times more than young white men. For example Michael Dunn he was convicted of attempted murder of 3 boys he was shooting at, but the 4th boy that he shot and killed, the jury was hung on for some reason as to whether or not that was murder. Since this guy wasn’t convicted of murder and may as well never be, it won’t show up in the white stats, same for Zimmerman.

    I’m don’t understand how you can shoot at 4 teens, be guilty of attempted murder of the 3 you didn’t kill, but the one you did kill, its not clearly murder. That makes no sense at all. These jurors and the system is highly corrupted. The stats are corrupted.

    • Ignorance is not bliss

      Thank you for the voice of reason. Once again BOB social programming, Not tribalism BS.

    • Voice Of Reason

      Actually, there are more murders and murder investigations in the African American neighborhoods discounting arrests. This can attest to the amount of gun shot and stabbing victims being admitted to hospital trauma units in the black neighboirhoods compared to white areas. Ask any homicide detective or trauma surgeon in any major American city where there is more incidences of murders and violence.

  • LeCalabro

    50 years ago or so blacks were not doing what lots o young blacks afre doing today. Who indoctrinated you into hating whites and blaming them for all of YOUR troubles.,

    • robynbuckins

      So back your statement up.. hahahahaha .. and I have serious doubts about your IQ …Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. Martin Luther King, Jr.
      Indeed!

      • RWR4TX

        You say that over and over. You do not think for yourself, but quote other idiots. The fact that you accuse others of possessing this attribute is a well-documented psychological self-defense mechanism known as “projection.” You can say what you like, but readers of this thread can see overwhelming evidence of this fact.

    • robynbuckins

      Try this LeCalabro: Middle-class whites learn to fear African-American and Latinos, but most violent crime occurs within poor and minority communities and it is neither inter-racial or inter-class. As horrid as such crime is, it should not mask the destruction and violence perpetuated by corporate America. African Americans (typically urban Blacks) are depicted as welfare cheats, drug addicts and greedy panhandlers compared to the images of the middle-class (usually white) as “tax evaders”, celebrities who have a “chemical dependency” or wealthy business people who use unscrupulous means “to make a profit”.. While the behavior of the more affluent offenders is considered an “impropriety” and a deviation from the norm, the behavior of the poor is considered repugnant, indicative of the poor in general, and worthy of our indignation and resentment.

      • LeCalabro

        Some of us see hitting someone over the head with a crowbar a little more serious than picking your pocket by inflating prices in a store.

      • RWR4TX

        That is merely due to proximity. When blacks creep into white neighborhoods, the crime rate soars.

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  • Ignorance is not bliss

    BOB, I can’t argue with you. You have be programmed to the point you think racism is ok. You are so desperate to make racism ok and to feel better about being racist you have tried to make up BS and pass it as something else. Racism is racism BOB, People are not born racist, racist are made.

    Social Programming over the years has made racism institutionalized. It has nothing to do with tribalism.

    Tell your Tea Party friends I said hi

    • Bob Sten

      ignorance,

      Tell the tea party I said “hi”?

      What?

      I invented the tea party, just like gore invented the internet.

      Talking to the tea party is simply talking to myself.

      • Ignorance is not bliss

        :)

  • Bob Sten

    All these left wing idiots that say that whites aren’t victims.

    Really? Do some research….

    http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/muslim-rape-wave/

  • zillaouch

    I just finished watching a couple of documentaries about how gangs got started in Los Angeles. One of them is called Bastards of the Party and was put together by a former gang member named Cle ‘Bone’ Sloan. I take the title of this blog from something he said in his movie. Paraphrased, he said that from 1965 to 1971 blacks in Los Angeles went from calling each other brother to saying kill that nigga. His question was how did that happen?

    What Sloan goes on to explain is that gangs such as the Slausons, the Business Men, and the Farmers all but ceased activity at one time because most gangs were drafted into political parties such as The Black Panther Party for Self Defense or the Organization Us. They developed a new sense of pride because they actually had stood up to the William H. Parker’s LAPD and The National Guard for five days in what they called an uprising but the rest of the world calls the 1965 Los Angeles Riots. 34 people were killed during those riots and most of them were shot by the police or the National Guard.

    Yet, in five years these new proud African Americans will go from being unified to what we know as the Bloods and the Crips. They went from being brothers to killing each other. 15,000 deaths later, many Americans still do not know how these two “bastard children of the political parties of the 60’s” came about. Some of them would be shocked to find out about how the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover used COINTELPRO to destroy the Panthers and cause strife between the BPP and US. I do not think they would agree with Hoover’s assessment of the BPP’s “Breakfast for children” program needing to be destroyed to neutralize the BPP. They would not know that the FBI sent death threats to the two groups in the name of the other, arrested, beat, and killed members under the direct order of the Hoover. Geronimo Pratt spent 27 years in prison for a murder he did not commit.

    They probably heard the story of Alprentice “Bunchy” Carter and how he was killed at UCLA, but I bet they never heard the FBI agent say that Bunchy was supposed to die in a drug deal a week earlier but that it was fouled up. He went on to say that there was a provocateur that caused the argument at UCLA that night that killed Bunchy.

    They would find it hard to believe that the original word CRIPS stands for Creative Revolutionary InterPlanetary Service. That this group of young men really wanted to take the part of the BPP but that Mayor Tom Bradley’s office made them change Revolutionary to Reform and then started trying to teach them to live within the system instead of change it.

    However, it would all be true and that is not even the worse part of it. They would probably be aghast to find out that Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Oliver North supported the sale by the Sandinistas of Nicaragua of drugs to a street dealer named ‘Freeway’ Ricky Ross who turned it into Crack and created one of the largest and most destructive drug epidemics in American history. The CIA’s main drug dealer was a guy by the name of Danilo Blandon who now works for the DEA and only spent three years in prison while Ross has served 13 years of a lifetime sentence. Of course they all remember Iran-Contra.

    Ross recruited Bloods and Crips who distributed his product throughout Los Angeles. Americans would be appalled that Sloan and his clique could go to Western Surplus at this time and buy 20 or 30 AK47s and the shells without waiting a grace period. They would buy cars to do drive-bys and shoot Crips on sight. This did not matter to the national media though until a little Asian girl got killed near UCLA in a gang shooting. 15,000 black men died in this war and the national media barely mentioned them. The police did not care either. One UCLA student is killed and the every paper in the country has the story and the LAPD now has a gang war. They have the right to arrest, harass, and shoot young men who they needed off the streets.

    I am sure that if the average American knew this they would be angry and ask for answers from government and those who helped perpetrate this genocide or would they? If 15000 people were killed in Sarajevo or somewhere on foreign soil one movie said, there would be committees and people investigating those deaths. Why hasn’t anyone been held accountable for the US government’s systematic destruction of African Americans in Los Angeles? Most Americans know why.

  • zillaouch@gmail.com

    I just finished watching a couple of documentaries about how gangs got started in Los Angeles. One of them is called Bastards of the Party and was put together by a former gang member named Cle ‘Bone’ Sloan. I take the title of this blog from something he said in his movie. Paraphrased, he said that from 1965 to 1971 blacks in Los Angeles went from calling each other brother to saying kill that nigga. His question was how did that happen?

    What Sloan goes on to explain is that gangs such as the Slausons, the Business Men, and the Farmers all but ceased activity at one time because most gangs were drafted into political parties such as The Black Panther Party for Self Defense or the Organization Us. They developed a new sense of pride because they actually had stood up to the William H. Parker’s LAPD and The National Guard for five days in what they called an uprising but the rest of the world calls the 1965 Los Angeles Riots. 34 people were killed during those riots and most of them were shot by the police or the National Guard.

    Yet, in five years these new proud African Americans will go from being unified to what we know as the Bloods and the Crips. They went from being brothers to killing each other. 15,000 deaths later, many Americans still do not know how these two “bastard children of the political parties of the 60’s” came about. Some of them would be shocked to find out about how the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover used COINTELPRO to destroy the Panthers and cause strife between the BPP and US. I do not think they would agree with Hoover’s assessment of the BPP’s “Breakfast for children” program needing to be destroyed to neutralize the BPP. They would not know that the FBI sent death threats to the two groups in the name of the other, arrested, beat, and killed members under the direct order of the Hoover. Geronimo Pratt spent 27 years in prison for a murder he did not commit.

    They probably heard the story of Alprentice “Bunchy” Carter and how he was killed at UCLA, but I bet they never heard the FBI agent say that Bunchy was supposed to die in a drug deal a week earlier but that it was fouled up. He went on to say that there was a provocateur that caused the argument at UCLA that night that killed Bunchy.

    They would find it hard to believe that the original word CRIPS stands for Creative Revolutionary InterPlanetary Service. That this group of young men really wanted to take the part of the BPP but that Mayor Tom Bradley’s office made them change Revolutionary to Reform and then started trying to teach them to live within the system instead of change it.

    However, it would all be true and that is not even the worse part of it. They would probably be aghast to find out that Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Oliver North supported the sale by the Sandinistas of Nicaragua of drugs to a street dealer named ‘Freeway’ Ricky Ross who turned it into Crack and created one of the largest and most destructive drug epidemics in American history. The CIA’s main drug dealer was a guy by the name of Danilo Blandon who now works for the DEA and only spent three years in prison while Ross has served 13 years of a lifetime sentence. Of course they all remember Iran-Contra.

    Ross recruited Bloods and Crips who distributed his product throughout Los Angeles. Americans would be appalled that Sloan and his clique could go to Western Surplus at this time and buy 20 or 30 AK47s and the shells without waiting a grace period. They would buy cars to do drive-bys and shoot Crips on sight. This did not matter to the national media though until a little Asian girl got killed near UCLA in a gang shooting. 15,000 black men died in this war and the national media barely mentioned them. The police did not care either. One UCLA student is killed and the every paper in the country has the story and the LAPD now has a gang war. They have the right to arrest, harass, and shoot young men who they needed off the streets.

    I am sure that if the average American knew this they would be angry and ask for answers from government and those who helped perpetrate this genocide or would they? If 15000 people were killed in Sarajevo or somewhere on foreign soil one movie said, there would be committees and people investigating those deaths. Why hasn’t anyone been held accountable for the US government’s systemzatic destruction of African Americans in Los Angeles? Most Americans know why.

  • zillaouch@gmail.com

    I just finished watching a couple of documentaries about how gangs got started in Los Angeles. One of them is called Bastards of the Party and was put together by a former gang member named Cle ‘Bone’ Sloan. I take the title of this blog from something he said in his movie. Paraphrased, he said that from 1965 to 1971 blacks in Los Angeles went from calling each other brother to saying kill that nigga. His question was how did that happen?

    What Sloan goes on to explain is that gangs such as the Slausons, the Business Men, and the Farmers all but ceased activity at one time because most gangs were drafted into political parties such as The Black Panther Party for Self Defense or the Organization Us. They developed a new sense of pride because they actually had stood up to the William H. Parker’s LAPD and The National Guard for five days in what they called an uprising but the rest of the world calls the 1965 Los Angeles Riots. 34 people were killed during those riots and most of them were shot by the police or the National Guard.

    Yet, in five years these new proud African Americans will go from being unified to what we know as the Bloods and the Crips. They went from being brothers to killing each other. 15,000 deaths later, many Americans still do not know how these two “bastard children of the political parties of the 60’s” came about. Some of them would be shocked to find out about how the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover used COINTELPRO to destroy the Panthers and cause strife between the BPP and US. I do not think they would agree with Hoover’s assessment of the BPP’s “Breakfast for children” program needing to be destroyed to neutralize the BPP. They would not know that the FBI sent death threats to the two groups in the name of the other, arrested, beat, and killed members under the direct order of the Hoover. Geronimo Pratt spent 27 years in prison for a murder he did not commit.

    They probably heard the story of Alprentice “Bunchy” Carter and how he was killed at UCLA, but I bet they never heard the FBI agent say that Bunchy was supposed to die in a drug deal a week earlier but that it was fouled up. He went on to say that there was a provocateur that caused the argument at UCLA that night that killed Bunchy.

    They would find it hard to believe that the original word CRIPS stands for Creative Revolutionary InterPlanetary Service. That this group of young men really wanted to take the part of the BPP but that Mayor Tom Bradley’s office made them change Revolutionary to Reform and then started trying to teach them to live within the system instead of change it.

    However, it would all be true and that is not even the worse part of it. They would probably be aghast to find out that Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Oliver North supported the sale by the Sandinistas of Nicaragua of drugs to a street dealer named ‘Freeway’ Ricky Ross who turned it into Crack and created one of the largest and most destructive drug epidemics in American history. The CIA’s main drug dealer was a guy by the name of Danilo Blandon who now works for the DEA and only spent three years in prison while Ross has served 13 years of a lifetime sentence. Of course they all remember Iran-Contra.

    Ross recruited Bloods and Crips who distributed his product throughout Los Angeles. Americans would be appalled that Sloan and his clique could go to Western Surplus at this time and buy 20 or 30 AK47s and the shells without waiting a grace period. They would buy cars to do drive-bys and shoot Crips on sight. This did not matter to the national media though until a little Asian girl got killed near UCLA in a gang shooting. 15,000 black men died in this war and the national media barely mentioned them. The police did not care either. One UCLA student is killed and the every paper in the country has the story and the LAPD now has a gang war. They have the right to arrest, harass, and shoot young men who they needed off the streets.

    I am sure that if the average American knew this they would be angry and ask for answers from government and those who helped perpetrate this genocide or would they? If 15000 people were killed in Sarajevo or somewhere on foreign soil one movie said, there would be committees and people investigating those deaths. Why hasn’t anyone been held accountable for the US government’s systematic destruction of African Americans in Los Angeles? Most Americans know why.

  • Ryan

    I’m not a racist but I’m tired of the crap that is happening in this country. I believe that there should be equality, the only way that will happen is if all of this racist crap stops. No more all a single race schools and scholarships, more hands outs. Everyone has been give the same chance to succeed but not everyone has taken it.

  • B’Kubru Ning

    I find it utterly amazing how whites will lie themselves and others in regards to who is more violent. Every brutal dictator who murdered relentlessly is either Caucasian or Asian. Whites are the only race to war with every race on the planet; is this action of peaceful people? Everyone where these people go violence, chaos, and disease follows them. The worst mass murder is white as so in the second and so forth. These people murdered over 53 million native Americans in less 200 yrs. Only 2 million people who identify themselves as native survived. It took violence to achieve this feat. Lets also not forget the 11 million Africa people you also murdered. FACT: The most evil man in world is White; Adolf Hitler. FACT: The most peaceful person to walk the Earth is a man of color; Jesus Christ who had hair like wool and skin like “burned bronze”. Keep lying to yourself but so you know, no one believes you.

    • Kim Jong Un

      Wow your really full of yourself aren’t you, had to go back in time to prove your point, look at today, the whites have evolved, blacks have not. Talk about mass killing and genocide, What about Darfur and Rwanda those are both recent and perpetrated by blacks, Why is it the most dangerous cities in America are always the cities with the largest black populations.

    • Guest

      Somalia, Ghana or pretty much anywhere in Africa where there is current tribal genocide. Tell me where this is CURRENTLY happening in white culture?

      • Bill James

        He won’t respond to facts. Liberals and especially Blacks don’t regard facts as anything more than impediments to their endless whining about how oppressed they are.

        Notice how B’Kubru Ninja makes a comparison between DOJ statistics which prove that Blacks are the most violent race in America and WW2? Laughably absurd. And they always have to go back in history to dig up when Whites were as savage as some (too many) Blacks are TODAY.

    • Bill James

      You’re good at naming famous bad white people but apparently clueless about statistics, bro:

      http://www.fbi.gov 2011 Table 43: The Black crime rate for:
      -murder is 5 times more than Whites, 45 times more than Asians

      -rape is 4 times more than Whites, 27 more than Asians

      -robbery is 5 times more than Whites, 57 more than Asians

      -burglary is 4 times more than Whites, 34 more than Asians

      The future looks worse:
      -http://www.cdc.gov 2010 homicide rates of 10 to 24 year-olds: The Black rate was 18 times that of Whites and Asians.

      http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ipdf/cvus06.pdf Table 42, Violent Crime Rates by Race:
      -The Black-on-White rate was 35 times more than White-on-Black.

      -Black-on-White rape rate was 84; White-on-Black rape was statistically insignificant and listed as zero.

      “Criminal Victimization in the United States” DOJ Table 48, race of “multiple offender” (gangs) and their victim/s involved in violent crimes:

      -In 2005 Blacks committed 70 times more such crimes against Whites than Whites committed against Blacks.

      -In 2008 Blacks committed 147,749 such crimes against Whites; Whites committed ten against Blacks.

      -The DOJ stopped identifying the race of gang crime offenders in 2008. I can’t imagine why.

      -7/14/14
      http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/14/despite-recent-shootings-chicago-nowhere-near-u-s-murder-capital/ Flint, Mich. (56% Blacks) had the highest murder rate, 62 per 100,000 population in 2012; next was Detroit (83% Black) with a rate of 55; next was New Orleans (60% Black) with a rate of 53; next was Jackson, Miss. (80% Black) with a rate of 36.

      -6/6/2011
      http://www.businessinsider.com/safest-cities-in-america-2011-6?op=1 The lowest violent crime rate was in Irvine, CA which has a 2% Black population; next was Temecula, CA which has a 4% Black population; next was Cary, N. C. which has an 8% Black population; next was
      Marietta, CA which has a 5% Black population.

      The same picture presents itself, worldwide:

      -10/10/10 http://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/oct/11/black-prison-population-increase-england More black people jailed in England and Wales proportionally than in US. New study finds seven times more black people per population are in prison – in the US number is just four times as many.

      -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
      The murder rate per 100,000 population for Southern Africa is 30; for Northern America it is 4.2; for Europe it is 3.0.

      It’s getting harder for you to race pimp these days, isn’t it, bro? We’ve got the Internet today. You can run from the facts about your race,
      but you can no longer hide. We can even SEE how savage you can be, like these videos show. It’s as though you’re inventing new lows in
      human depravity. Google search “Black/s…
      …Teens Beat 89-Year-Old World War II Vet to Death ”

      …Teens Kill College Baseball Player For The Fun Of It.”

      …Teens Shoot White Mom, Kill White Baby”

      …Teens Douse White Boy 13, in Gas, Set Him On fire”

      …10 to 12 Black Juveniles Rape 2 Women”

      …Thugs Douse a Man With Gasoline and Set Him Afire”

      …Teen Beats and Rapes an Elderly Nun”

      …Father Bites Off the Nose of His Infant Boy”

      …Six Blacks Repeatedly Gang Rape Pregnant White Woman”

      Feeling stupid, bro? You should.

      12/3/93 The Baltimore Sun: Jesse Jackson admits: “I hate to admit it, but I have reached a stage in my life that if I am walking down a dark street late at night and I see that the person behind me is white, I subconsciously feel relieved.”

  • Sasha

    Everyone has a choice in life. I don’t see how ” Gangsta Thug Life” is the reason when America is in ruins. That’s simply a fraud statement. but I can say that Black on Black crime is not much highlighted in society. Not so much as denial. Nobody knows what goes in in the “hood” for them to judge. As for anyone like me that does know. Its killed or be killed, to those young men. I’m not saying its right, but certain situations, you have to do what you have to, to survive Now, how they get their guns is the big QUESTION. The government maybe ?

    • Bill James

      Screw your concern about Black on Black crime not “much highlighted.” How about highlighting this, bro?

      http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ipdf/cvus06.pdf Table 42, Violent Crime Rates by Race:
      -The Black-on-White rate was 35 times more than White-on-Black.

      -Black-on-White rape rate was 84; White-on-Black rape was statistically insignificant and listed as zero.

      “Criminal Victimization in the United States” DOJ Table 48, race of “multiple offender” (gangs) and their victim/s involved in violent crimes:
      -In 2005 Blacks committed 70 times more such crimes against
      Whites than Whites committed against Blacks.

      -In 2008 Blacks committed 147,749 such crimes against Whites; Whites committed ten against Blacks.

      -The DOJ stopped identifying the race of gang crime offenders in 2008. I can’t imagine why.
      “…and the horse you rode in on.”

  • Dennis Richardson

    Is that not interesting. WHY do the crimes rates of similar white men by age and economic background not commit such crimes as armed robbery, rape, assault, kidnapping, and general mayhem. Are not democratic party policies in government to blame? There will be no place to hide for most politicians on Judgement Day. Though republicans will not get a pass many are guilty of theft and Idolatry, the bigger account will be against democrats, who are the puppets of the bankers who enslave humanity. Family destruction is the democratic party plan of welfare mongers.

  • TiredOfTheExcuses

    I’m 35. I was never taught to see see the color of someone’s skin and judge them for it. But growing up in the Bay Area I didn’t have to be taught, I’ve seen it with my own eyes day in and day out. Most blacks refuse to take responsibility, they act trashy in public, use intimidation or the race card to get what they want, they beat up their kids, abuse animals, and live off the government. What we need to do is stop helping them. Let them kill each other, then maybe I could walk through the streets of Oakland like my grandparents did and not fear for my life.