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		<title>By: RoguePatriot6</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RoguePatriot6]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You still don&#039;t get it do you?  
  
LBJ set the foundation for the new form of slavery called, &quot;Government Dependency&quot;. You see, since the old archaic form of racism was starting to be frowned upon this was a more subtle means of it. All of the programs started under the &quot;New Great Society&quot; was never meant advance black people but was just meant to give a little bit to shut everybody up. Still don&#039;t believe me? Why are blacks and latinos still living in run down ghettos surviving off food stamps, welfare....etc? What party affilation predominatly runs these areas? The one and only, DEMOCRATIC PARTY. They never wanted blacks move forward because if they did, it would defeat their purpose and screw up their voter base. The un-foreseen side effect was that later own alot of white people were drawn into this too. The Democratic Party is still the party of enslavement, they just polished their act up. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You still don&#039;t get it do you?  </p>
<p>LBJ set the foundation for the new form of slavery called, &quot;Government Dependency&quot;. You see, since the old archaic form of racism was starting to be frowned upon this was a more subtle means of it. All of the programs started under the &quot;New Great Society&quot; was never meant advance black people but was just meant to give a little bit to shut everybody up. Still don&#039;t believe me? Why are blacks and latinos still living in run down ghettos surviving off food stamps, welfare&#8230;.etc? What party affilation predominatly runs these areas? The one and only, DEMOCRATIC PARTY. They never wanted blacks move forward because if they did, it would defeat their purpose and screw up their voter base. The un-foreseen side effect was that later own alot of white people were drawn into this too. The Democratic Party is still the party of enslavement, they just polished their act up. </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4313880</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 23:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed, are you asking me out for a date?   
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, are you asking me out for a date?   </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4312781</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everything you write is for satirical purposes. There should be a permanent laugh track running whenever someone opens your garbage to read it.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything you write is for satirical purposes. There should be a permanent laugh track running whenever someone opens your garbage to read it.   </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4312777</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, he&#039;s pointing out that this is not really a collection of &quot;conservatives,&quot; but merely reactionary right wing culture warriors.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, he&#039;s pointing out that this is not really a collection of &quot;conservatives,&quot; but merely reactionary right wing culture warriors.   </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4312760</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff, note that you&#039;re so dense you dont&#039; even get when someone agrees with you.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, note that you&#039;re so dense you dont&#039; even get when someone agrees with you.   </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4311315</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Darn Jesuits!&quot; 
 
Wrong AGAIN. He&#039;s saying, &quot;darn communists&quot; like you. You just think you&#039;re conservative because you once held down a job. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Darn Jesuits!&quot; </p>
<p>Wrong AGAIN. He&#039;s saying, &quot;darn communists&quot; like you. You just think you&#039;re conservative because you once held down a job. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4311309</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EarlyBird, the most productive author of silly false dichotomies used as straw men arguments in the &quot;leftist conservative&quot; world. You&#039;ve got a proverbial army of straw men. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EarlyBird, the most productive author of silly false dichotomies used as straw men arguments in the &quot;leftist conservative&quot; world. You&#039;ve got a proverbial army of straw men. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4311303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yeah, I think basically you want lynch mobs deliverin&#039; good ol&#039; justice, &#039;specially to &quot;damn libruls!&quot; Because you&#039;re a fascist, as most of the so-called &quot;conservatives&quot; on this site. Just simple, reactionary, frightened, ignorant people prone to lashing out at anything that is different or new or discomforting. &quot; 
 
More revelations on just how delusional you are. How much of that is due to your poor reading comprehension we&#039;ll never know without extensive testing. 
 
Good luck with that. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Yeah, I think basically you want lynch mobs deliverin&#039; good ol&#039; justice, &#039;specially to &quot;damn libruls!&quot; Because you&#039;re a fascist, as most of the so-called &quot;conservatives&quot; on this site. Just simple, reactionary, frightened, ignorant people prone to lashing out at anything that is different or new or discomforting. &quot; </p>
<p>More revelations on just how delusional you are. How much of that is due to your poor reading comprehension we&#039;ll never know without extensive testing. </p>
<p>Good luck with that. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4311292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Jeff, you&#039;re proven numerous times now that you&#039;re stupid. Stay off my threads.&quot; 
 
 
Translation: Jeff, I can&#039;t beat you in an argument so please leave me alone. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Jeff, you&#039;re proven numerous times now that you&#039;re stupid. Stay off my threads.&quot; </p>
<p>Translation: Jeff, I can&#039;t beat you in an argument so please leave me alone. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4311285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Napoleonic Law (French Common Law) is indeed, burden of proof reversed. Guilty Until Proven Innocent. Quebec was granted the right to use it in Civil Law but not Criminal Law.&quot; 
 
 
Given the number of people already prosecuted for &quot;hurting religious feelings&quot; or whatever, I&#039;m pretty confident in my position. But like I said I can see why Europeans would compare their ideals favorably to their leftist-media derived impression of US justice weaknesses. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Napoleonic Law (French Common Law) is indeed, burden of proof reversed. Guilty Until Proven Innocent. Quebec was granted the right to use it in Civil Law but not Criminal Law.&quot; </p>
<p>Given the number of people already prosecuted for &quot;hurting religious feelings&quot; or whatever, I&#039;m pretty confident in my position. But like I said I can see why Europeans would compare their ideals favorably to their leftist-media derived impression of US justice weaknesses. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4311280</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Yes you were.&quot; 
 
My claim was that our standards are the highest. They are. I don&#039;t doubt he can find evidence showing we don&#039;t always live up to those standards, which is to say we&#039;re imperfect. European ideals might seem higher than our worst failures. That&#039;s not a fair comparison, but to get there you have to unpack the evidence first, which we haven&#039;t. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth the time really. I think what is critical is that most of the time we (in the USA) do live up to our ideals and often go overboard, tilting towards defending blatantly guilty people with silly discussions about how to define &quot;cruel and unusual&quot; and so forth. 
 
He&#039;s concerned about punishing innocent people and so am I. That&#039;s not the fundamental discussion, though it&#039;s reasonable to go there when discussing capital punishment. There are also people like you who can&#039;t even take a reasonable point and use it constructively. 
 
The bottom line is that cases should be weighed on the law, on evidence and due process. The appeals process is extensive. If there are systemic problems we need to fix those. I don&#039;t even care if nobody in the end is executed. What I care about is creating incentives for politicizing the cases and flooding the defense team with funds to pursue radical anti-American agendas by making heroes out of anti-heroes. 
 
Bill Ayers should have been subject to execution but look what happened to him? He&#039;s now teaching people how to get rapists and murderers off of death row by lying. 
 
This is not good. If leftists are concerned about justice they ought to work on improving the systems that make sure evidence is managed and presented properly, things that apply equally to every accused individual. They tend to, as I said, go after lionizing or protecting anti-heroes. Just look at the &quot;Blind Sheikh&quot; and what his radical leftist lawyer did for him. There are so many more examples like that. We want equal justice. I don&#039;t expect more for myself than I ask from others. 
 
Reread the article if you still have questions. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Yes you were.&quot; </p>
<p>My claim was that our standards are the highest. They are. I don&#039;t doubt he can find evidence showing we don&#039;t always live up to those standards, which is to say we&#039;re imperfect. European ideals might seem higher than our worst failures. That&#039;s not a fair comparison, but to get there you have to unpack the evidence first, which we haven&#039;t. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth the time really. I think what is critical is that most of the time we (in the USA) do live up to our ideals and often go overboard, tilting towards defending blatantly guilty people with silly discussions about how to define &quot;cruel and unusual&quot; and so forth. </p>
<p>He&#039;s concerned about punishing innocent people and so am I. That&#039;s not the fundamental discussion, though it&#039;s reasonable to go there when discussing capital punishment. There are also people like you who can&#039;t even take a reasonable point and use it constructively. </p>
<p>The bottom line is that cases should be weighed on the law, on evidence and due process. The appeals process is extensive. If there are systemic problems we need to fix those. I don&#039;t even care if nobody in the end is executed. What I care about is creating incentives for politicizing the cases and flooding the defense team with funds to pursue radical anti-American agendas by making heroes out of anti-heroes. </p>
<p>Bill Ayers should have been subject to execution but look what happened to him? He&#039;s now teaching people how to get rapists and murderers off of death row by lying. </p>
<p>This is not good. If leftists are concerned about justice they ought to work on improving the systems that make sure evidence is managed and presented properly, things that apply equally to every accused individual. They tend to, as I said, go after lionizing or protecting anti-heroes. Just look at the &quot;Blind Sheikh&quot; and what his radical leftist lawyer did for him. There are so many more examples like that. We want equal justice. I don&#039;t expect more for myself than I ask from others. </p>
<p>Reread the article if you still have questions. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4311240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 05:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You&#039;re a fool.&quot; 
 
Thank you. You&#039;ve arrived to the end of your argument with your most salient point, that anyone who disagrees with you is regarded by you as a fool. 
 
Not too constructive though. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;You&#039;re a fool.&quot; </p>
<p>Thank you. You&#039;ve arrived to the end of your argument with your most salient point, that anyone who disagrees with you is regarded by you as a fool. </p>
<p>Not too constructive though. </p>
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		<title>By: edgineer1</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4310928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[edgineer1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 03:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have been sticking it in the end for a long time, haven&#039;t you fudgepacker? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have been sticking it in the end for a long time, haven&#039;t you fudgepacker? </p>
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		<title>By: epaddon</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4310642</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[epaddon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 01:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My obligation is to not wish that his soul burn in Hell or that if God spared him from Hell because of a sincere repentance of the heart, then somehow it would be &quot;unfair&quot; if he didn&#039;t go to Hell.    I have heard some people think it would be &quot;unfair&quot; if God showed that mercy to a sincere repenter and that is what I am referring to. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My obligation is to not wish that his soul burn in Hell or that if God spared him from Hell because of a sincere repentance of the heart, then somehow it would be &quot;unfair&quot; if he didn&#039;t go to Hell.    I have heard some people think it would be &quot;unfair&quot; if God showed that mercy to a sincere repenter and that is what I am referring to. </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 01:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The end is near!   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The end is near!   </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4310609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 01:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re all correct that when a Democrat governor executes someone the anti-death penalty left don&#039;t make a squeek.  It just shows that the death penalty is part of our larger culture war, and is often not thought through rationally.   
 
I understand the emotional desire to use the death penalty.  And many supporters on this thread even admit that it&#039;s not a useful tool, because &quot;the left&quot; makes it so long and costly a process for it to be administered.   
 
That has to do with the Constitution, not the &quot;left&quot; or &quot;corruption.&quot;  Let&#039;s either fix the Constitution to make it easier to kill a criminal, or acknowlege that it is far less practical in reality than it is in theory.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re all correct that when a Democrat governor executes someone the anti-death penalty left don&#039;t make a squeek.  It just shows that the death penalty is part of our larger culture war, and is often not thought through rationally.   </p>
<p>I understand the emotional desire to use the death penalty.  And many supporters on this thread even admit that it&#039;s not a useful tool, because &quot;the left&quot; makes it so long and costly a process for it to be administered.   </p>
<p>That has to do with the Constitution, not the &quot;left&quot; or &quot;corruption.&quot;  Let&#039;s either fix the Constitution to make it easier to kill a criminal, or acknowlege that it is far less practical in reality than it is in theory.   </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 01:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We should hate murderers.  I sure do.   
 
But the death penalty, like a good number of issues, to me is a litmus test of mature conservatism.  Are we just hysterical reactionary culture warriors who want to use the government as our own tool to bash &quot;the left,&quot; or are we capable of taking an emotional issue and soberly consider the pros and cons of a given policy and make a decision on that basis?   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should hate murderers.  I sure do.   </p>
<p>But the death penalty, like a good number of issues, to me is a litmus test of mature conservatism.  Are we just hysterical reactionary culture warriors who want to use the government as our own tool to bash &quot;the left,&quot; or are we capable of taking an emotional issue and soberly consider the pros and cons of a given policy and make a decision on that basis?   </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/to-kill-a-murderer/comment-page-1/#comment-4310584</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 01:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Darn Jesuits!  They think just too darned hard, what with their book learnin&#039;!  They mix everybody up and make &#039;em &quot;libruls!&quot;  Why, when we&#039;re done bringing the mailed fist of DraKKKen down on the Sand Apes, we need to take it to them Jesuit Marxists! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darn Jesuits!  They think just too darned hard, what with their book learnin&#039;!  They mix everybody up and make &#039;em &quot;libruls!&quot;  Why, when we&#039;re done bringing the mailed fist of DraKKKen down on the Sand Apes, we need to take it to them Jesuit Marxists! </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, Jeffy, you&#039;re for killing in unjust wars, and killing as much as possible in those wars.  Got it.  Kill, kill, kill!   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Jeffy, you&#039;re for killing in unjust wars, and killing as much as possible in those wars.  Got it.  Kill, kill, kill!   </p>
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		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I think basically you want lynch mobs deliverin&#039; good ol&#039; justice, &#039;specially to &quot;damn libruls!&quot;  Because you&#039;re a fascist, as most of the so-called &quot;conservatives&quot; on this site.  Just simple, reactionary, frightened, ignorant people prone to lashing out at anything that is different or new or discomforting.   
 
Which is what makes you such excellent fodder for Front Page Magazine.   ]]></description>
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<p>Which is what makes you such excellent fodder for Front Page Magazine.   </p>
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