Tsarnaev Imam: “America Will Soon Collapse.”


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You know things are bad when a Time Magazine reporter begins his story with a paragraph like this.

The officials told the Post that the Tsarnaev brothers were “self-radicalized,” meaning that their views were shaped by what they saw online and knew of U.S. actions in the Muslim world. But judging by the opinion of the U.S. that Gasanaliev expressed to TIME, Tamerlan’s alleged politics would at least have been reinforced by the views upheld at the mosque on Kotrova Street.

From there Imam Khasan-Khadzhi Gasanaliev expresses his belief that America is a den of mass murderers and will be destroyed and his disregard for the victims of the bombing.

“America will soon collapse. It will disappear,” Gasanaliev said matter-of-factly after sitting down with TIME for an exclusive interview. “How many years did the Arabic Caliphate rule? For hundreds of years, the world was ruled by the Arabic Caliphate. And it was a wonderful ruler. Now America is the great power. But tomorrow it will fall apart, a few more hurricanes, a few more of something else.” Pausing for a moment, he switches to a different tone: “But today, we must all look each other in the eyes honestly, wish each other well, respect each other and love each other. There should be no violence.”

Last week’s violence in Boston confuses him not because it was indiscriminate, but because it has caused such an uproar, bringing a pack of journalists to Dagestan with questions for him and his mosque. “Somebody from somewhere was killed, or something was fabricated, and so much noise because of this,” he says with bewilderment. “How much has America done in Vietnam, in all its wars everywhere. Right now it is turning the entire Arab world upside down. They kill hundreds, thousands, millions of people and nobody is interested. But over there someone does something, blows something up, someone is killed, and because of this they send so many people [journalists] here. They are surprised by this.”

Imam Khasan-Khadzhi Gasanaliev claims that his mosque is not political, but it clearly is, as the reporter sticks around to learn that the bland sermon he heard is not typical.

Few of them would speak openly to a reporter afterward, but some of those who did said they appreciated the mosque on Kotrova Street for not shying from political and social issues. “He tells it straight,” a worshipper named Magomedgadzhi said of the imam, declining to give his surname. “He can criticize the people in power if they deserve it. You don’t really hear that anywhere else.”

And what does telling it straight mean?

Gasanaliev said no security services have visited the mosque since the Boston bombings. But in the past, the scrutiny of the FSB has been nearly constant, and it is little wonder why. Congregants at the mosque on Kotrova Street have often been killed in shootouts with Russia’s counterterrorism forces.

The Salafi bookstore across the street offers literature that has been blacklisted by the state. Tucked in among copies of the Koran and video lectures on such topics as courtship and divorce, there are the tracts of Hizb ut-Tahrir, a pan-Islamic political party that operates freely in the West but is banned in Russia as an extremist organization, as well as in other former Soviet republics in Central Asia.

The curious thing is that Gasanaliev is the deputy mufti of Dagestan. In Russia, Islamic clergy are closely monitored and like all official clergy, often report to the authorities and work for them. If the FSB really thinks a cleric is a problem, he vanishes.

It’s quite likely that the security services are playing a double game, sponsoring some Salafists, partly to get a line on terrorist groups and partly to make use of them in terrorist attacks. One of the reasons that the Russians may be slow to cooperate in this case, beyond what they already offered, is that they are protecting their sources.

  • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

    As to the Imam's predictions, well, however long it takes Islamists will wait.And THAT is the core component. In other words, while Americans (westerners) mostly have attention spans until next day's news, Islamists think yrs ahead, even hundreds. Do you think I am joking or hyperventilating, think again. And they have every reason to be optimistic – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/09/02/the-subversio

    Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/

  • bluffcreek1967

    "America will soon collapse" – The Imam may have a point there. But when America falls (not if), it will do so not because of any external force upon it. America will fall from within because of its excessive debauchery, immorality, and because of its many decades of feeding at the poisonous trough of Social-Marxism. Americans have allowed the Left to incrementally mold this nation into its destructive image – and, like the Frog in the Kettle, by the time we awaken, it will be too late.

    The American people are too stupid to realize the danger they're in, and they essentially sealed their doom when they voted twice for the Destroyer currently in the Oval Office. The people wanted a President just like them, and they sure got one. Thus, we're getting everything we deserve, and boy are we going to have to pay the piper on this one! Now get back to watching porn, managing your narcissistic Facebook account and reality TV shows!

    • Looking4Sanity

      "America will fall from within because of its excessive debauchery, immorality, and because of its many decades of feeding at the poisonous trough of Social-Marxism. "

      Indeed. And there is nothing in the murderous cult of Islam that could prevent that. They are more like us than they will ever admit. That is my comfort…that the religion of Satan (Islam) is also headed for destruction by its own hand.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        They just keep it swept under the rug to avoid being stoned.
        Well, other than afghanistan where it's accepted as normal.

      • You Know Who

        You just want nukes dropped on the USA:

        1 week ago @ http://912wolverines.com/ – growl • 19 replies • -6 points

        I'm hoping for a nuclear holocaust myself. I wouldn't shed a tear if the whole country was reduced to cinders. It's no more than we deserve.

        Do you and roger work together?
        He wants to blow up southern cities.

        I hope they have you 2 on a watch list

  • hand rearden

    It's simple. This guy is an enemy. He is not on our side. Fortunately, the Caliphate never ruled the world. It ruled a good part of it, but not Europe, so the modern world was able to be born and to bypass the wretched wastelands that Islam created.

    This hate for western culture was first codified by Sayyed Qutb, one of the founders of the Muslim Brotherhood. it is supported by Saudi wahabi madrassas. Why Saudi Arabia keeps being portrayed as an ally of the U.S. is bewildering. How many times do they have to attack us for us to get the message?

    Islam has turned itself into a ghastly death cult based on wahabi doctrine. Let's stop clasping this asp to our bosom!

    • ziontruth

      "Islam has turned itself into…"

      No, it was that way from the beginning.

    • Pondfrog

      Not sure if you know this but Obama's father was a Wahabbi freedom fighter.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "This hate for western culture was first codified by Sayyed Qutb, one of the founders of the Muslim Brotherhood. it is supported by Saudi wahabi madrassas. Why Saudi Arabia keeps being portrayed as an ally of the U.S. is bewildering. How many times do they have to attack us for us to get the message?"

      The sovereign family claims to be keeping the radicals at bay. They are clearly double-crossing us but can easily pay off enough politicians one at a time to keep their secrets safe from most Westerners.

  • DDay66

    I'm shocked and baffled. An Imam in the "Religion of Peace" preaching hate??? Say it ain't so… I'd prefer to know more about what the Cleric in the Cambridge mosque has been preaching.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      Shocked, I'm shocked I tell you!

  • Judenlieber

    The Imam KKG was wrong about America collapsing soon. It has been collapsing since November 2008, but in slow motion. Apparently he's thinking about "collapse" in terms of skyscraper demolition.

    • bluffcreek1967

      I guess it's just a matter of perspective, but America's actual downfall as I see it began in 1965 with the passing of the immigration act that intentionally invited the entire third-world to squat on our land. Liberalism also began to take full force at around this time and, before long, here we are!

  • BLJ

    Bring it on stupid imam. I have an itchy trigger finger.

  • reg

    Hate is a terrible thing, Islam teaches it, and nurtures it. That is the problem, combine it with ignorance and poverty and then control it, oops, terrorism. You ever heard of an Imam leading the physical charge? No, I didn't think so. When and if the "eye for an eye" mentality is shown by the current administration, we stand a chance. There is no moderate Muslim.

  • SCREW SOCIALISM

    The satanist Iman is only creating more IslamofascismPhobes.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    "The officials told the Post that the Tsarnaev brothers were “self-radicalized,” meaning that their views were shaped by what they saw online and knew of U.S. actions in the Muslim world."

    What they "knew" from leftist-Islamic propaganda. In other words, the left strikes again.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “But today, we must all look each other in the eyes honestly, wish each other well, respect each other and love each other. There should be no violence.”

    Translation: Today I have no willing jihad candidates. Tomorrow might be a different story.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “Somebody from somewhere was killed, or something was fabricated, and so much noise because of this,” he says with bewilderment. “How much has America done in Vietnam, in all its wars everywhere. Right now it is turning the entire Arab world upside down. They kill hundreds, thousands, millions of people and nobody is interested. But over there someone does something, blows something up, someone is killed, and because of this they send so many people [journalists] here. They are surprised by this.”

    How would he know about any of it without leftist reporters spreading this propaganda? What a retread.

  • Nabuquduriuzhur

    The process of rationalization is a fascinating one. I once thought that women rationalizing murder of their children by abortion was the epitome of rationalization of evil, surpassing even the Communists and National Socialists and today's International Socialists (Democrats).

    But here, we see the rationalization of terrorism that amounts to the Islamic terrorists saying "we have the right to attack others without cause, but we will terrorize if they return the favor." Kind of like a little kid complaining "he hit me back!"

    (Another thing that is fascinating is how every time I try to sign in, Intensedebate invariably wants me to get a new password. No thanks. )

    The way to deal with Islam is what the British did. You take over, but you don't even try to "win them over". You won't be able to do that by talk. You lay down the law and accept no violence with a proverbial rod of iron. Why? 1. Arabs and other muslims respect strength. 2. The apostate muslims (most muslims) who have no interest in the Q'uran's requirement for jihad have the excuse to do good instead of following the Q'uran's requirements for violence. That sounds strange, but if you are a muslim who just wants to run your farm or business and have no interest in jihad, you are an apostate according to the Q'uran because you are disobeying multiple verses. So, if your country is under tight control and it would be hopeless to try to do the usual islamic violence and mayhem, then you as an apostate muslim now can live your life with the idea that you can't do the normal violence. An "excuse" to do good, rather than evil. Twisted, but it worked.