UK Gets Its First Muslim-on-White Honor Killing

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It’s a multicultural milestone. Or is that millstone? Either way a teenage girl is dead because she believed her teachers and politicians who told her that the new immigrants were just as English as she was and might even have superior cultural values.

Laura Wilson was just 17-years-old when she was stabbed to death next to a canal in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, in 2010.

This wasn’t a mugging gone wrong, or a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. In fact, the mother-of-one was the victim of Britain’s first white honour killing. Her death was premeditated murder, plotted and committed by the boyfriend she was madly in love with.

Laura’s crime was to bring dishonour on her Muslim lover Ashtiaq Ashgar, 21, who is now serving a life sentence for the brutal murder.

Her sister, Sarah, reveals on tonight’s episode of Britain’s Darkest Taboos on Crime & Investigation Network: ‘She loved him. She worshipped the ground he walked on, she really did. She would have done anything for him.’

Ashtiaq came from a traditional Muslim family who were planning an arranged marriage for their son with a girl from Pakistan.

When Laura found out that he has been seeing other girls, they broke up and she slept with this married friend, 22-year-old Ishaq ‘Zac’ Hussein, to make him jealous.

Only 16, she fell pregnant as a result of the fling and had a daughter, Alicia. Zac refused to acknowledge he was the father.

After Alicia is born, Laura and Ashtiaq rekindled their relationship but he insisted it must continue to be a secret. But while Laura was very much in love, her mother, Maggie, believes Ashtiaq was just using Laura for sex and treated her badly.

She said: ‘I heard a phone conversation between Laura and Ashtiaq, Laura telling him how much he loved him and he was just so nasty. You could hear Laura crying in the background. He was saying just how much he hated her and that he’d got another girl, and he wasn’t interested in her and she’s shouting back “I love ya, I love ya…”. He used Laura I think at the end.’

Laura soon became sick of being Ashtiaq secret and on October 6, 2010, fuelled by alcohol, she and her sister made the fatal mistake of revealing all to his family.

They knocked on his mother’s door and told her what was going on.

Sarah recalls: ‘Laura told her that she wanted to marry him, but his mother got aggressive and hit her with a shoe, calling her “a dirty white b****”.’

Two days later, Laura’s body was found in the canal. She had more than 40 stab wounds, most of those to the head, and some were defence wounds.

On December 21 the judge sentenced 18-year-old Ashtiaq to 17-and-a-half years imprisonment for Laura’s murder.

‘He showed no remorse, just upset at the amount of time he got in jail,’ says Maggie.

Why should he? In Islamic culture, women, especially non-Muslim ones, have no value. The UK is filled with Pakistani, Afghani and Somali settlers who live by the values of their home countries and inflict those values on the natives as they colonize the physical and social territory of the United Kingdom.

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  • glpage

    Seventeen years for a premeditated, brutal murder, wow, the Brits get real harsh don’t they. I’m glad I live in Texas. Scum like Ashtiaq don’t get off so easily here.

  • glpage

    Seventeen years for a premeditated, brutal murder, wow, the Brits get real harsh don’t they. I’m glad I live in Texas. Scum like Ashtiaq don’t get off so easily here.

    • laura r

      again its partly the fault of the girls family. how much dating goes on between muslim boys & white girls? in europe canada & the US? that would be a good read. editors: take note.

      • Mr T

        Parents have got to try.

        But do parents have more influence than the combination of peers, educators and the general culture?

        My family is mixed race. So I have a lot of skin in the game for America to be tolerant. Yet many leftists would consider me racist.
        F___ Them! These people are part of the problem. Yet they make a great show of tolerance like putting up billboards all over the city on tolerance showing a picture of the multicultural hand grasp. Meanwhile they let the Black Panthers intimidate people at the polls based on race. the two are just incongruent.

        • Paul of Alexandria

          The problem isn’t race, per se, it’s culture. My church has many mixed-race families – but we all share the same culture and beliefs. What the Brits need to recognize is that their culture is under attack, and that the Pakistani Muslim immigrants have no intention of sharing it.

          Of course one might also ask why the parents were so accepting of a girl sleeping with and having a child by a man out of wedlock.

          • Mr T

            Did I conflate race and culture? Guilty. But it is how the left talks bout it, which isn’t particularly wise.

            Because the left will do so until you use their same shorthand and then turn on you and painstakingly point out the difference and act all offended.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Did I conflate race and culture? Guilty. But it is how the left talks bout it, which isn’t particularly wise.”

            They do it to trap opposition. You’re a “racist” if you criticize barbaric or inferior culture according to them. Don’t fall for the trap.

          • laura r

            they get off on the violence. why? because they themselves want to do it too. dont have the guts, so they follow the drama. am i on to something?

          • JayTee

            You’re right. Everyone likes to try to pin all this on a race issue, when it’s actually due to total dissimilarity between cultures. Many organisms walk on two legs like we do, but many have totally divergent values, and are often totally predatory and parasitical in nature. Of course the liberal mindset will deny this forever, and claim that if we just give them enough welfare and latitude, everyone will be equally satisfied and successful.

          • DV

            I agree to some extent, however, let’s suppose that this situation involved a white girl and a black boy with no religious differences. Call me a racist if you will, but the fact is that in the U.S., any parent who attempts to assert his or her right to determine who their minor child associates with, will be branded a racist or a bigot. They will also get no cooperation whatsoever from school authorities or police. This is so even though a parent of a minor child in the U.S. has a perfect LEGAL RIGHT to control, dictate, and define the social life of a minor child, and to tell their child who is acceptable as a friend, boyfriend, girlfriend, or associate, even if their basis for so doing is racist or “bigoted.” A recent case in Florida involved an 18 year old girl who seduced a 15 year old girl into a lesbian relationship. The 15 year old girl’s parents complained to police, and the police, quite appropriately, arrested the 18 year old who now faces charges of (statutory) sexual battery on a child. The outcry from the lesbian-fascist community and their lackeys in the Obama-Soros controlled, left-stream media was deafening. The matter made the national news, as if the parents of the younger child had done something wrong or the police had done something wrong in charging the 18 year old girl with a crime. This case, in my view, was still an aberration because few, if any, social institutions are willing to support parents for fear of the outcry from leftists who recognize no parental right of authority whatsoever anymore.

          • ziggy zoggy

            The last time I checked, the age of sexual consent in decadent Britain was fifteen years old. That was in 1998 or so.

          • The March Hare

            I went and looked it up. It is currently 16 according to this article of a few days ago.
            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508665/Prime-Minister-swiftly-rejects-health-experts-lower-age-consent-15.html

          • smab70

            No, 16, there trying to lower it to 15.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Disgusting. No wonder they have so many child prostitution rings. And a people with such immoral laws dare to be so sanctimonius about them? But they have gun control. Cheers!

          • Paul of Alexandria

            Agreed. There are many angles to this situation. A healthy society should support parents in their decisions, but then conflict between parents and teenagers, especially in the matter of choosing a mate, has been the root of stories since literature began. One would also hope that a society that is officially Christian, with the monarch as the head of the church, would endorse and support Christian values, especially against Muslim ones.

          • Joe schmoe

            Actually, I’m extremely familiar with this case and once held your opinion until I heard the actual merits of the case. What is left out of this story, conveniently, is the fact that the porported ’18 year old’ was much younger when this relationship began, and therefore not at all illegal. It was consensual and the two girls were in high school together and even on the same sports team. It was only after their relationship continued after the older girl turned 18, and therefore ‘statgatory that the younger gorl’s parents were able to make an arguement’. It is completely ridiculous, and does appear to be motivated by hatred for the homosexual community alone.

          • Mainlander

            False. “Hunt, who was 18 when their sexual involvement began in late 2012. An arrest affidavit said that in December the freshman sent text messages
            to Hunt, arranging to meet in a school restroom toilet stall, where the girls “started kissing. Kaitlyn then took [the 14-year-old’s] pants off and put her finger inside of [the 14-year-old’s] vagina.”” http://www.viralread.com/2013/10/03/photo-kaitlyn-hunt-sex-florida-teen-lesbian-plea-bargain/

            You can read a whole lot of what went on here:

            http://theothermccain.com/category/crime/kaitlyn-hunt/

        • DV

          Parents and their parental authority everywhere have been undermined by the collectivist social institutions that have overtaken American institutions, particularly public schools.

          • laura r

            you mean like in pre ww2 germany? like w/the hitler youth movement?

        • sheikyermami

          Its not race, and its not ‘culture’.

          Its Islam.

          • Drakken

            It’s all three.

      • Kathy Thompson Ellis

        How is it even partly the fault of her family that her boyfriend killed her? How can you put the blame for his actions on them? He is a murderer. He is a muslim and thinks that it is okay to kill anyone if they offend him. especially a woman. especially a non-muslim woman. Her family may have wished that she not see him. Her family might even have insisted that she not see him. But they are no way at fault for his maniacal decision to murder her.

        • laura r

          she slept w/his best friend, she was pregnant @16. pursued him no matter how much he told her to get lost. he didnt stalk her, she chased him. the girl had serious issues. ok she was young, i understand. take these issues & multiply it w/a muslim & this is what you get. the parents should have not let her out of the house, grounded her. call the police or even the EDL if she went missing. she was under 18 & living home & also had a baby? parents were not strict enough, sorry.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Parents in Britain have even less legal control of their teenagers than American parents do. And British teens are even more out of control than American teens.

          • laura r

            michael savage showed photos of girls drunk in the streets. i know this.

          • Bob

            And that justified her murder?? You are sick.

          • The March Hare

            Bob, read her whole comment. She’s not saying it justified murder, she’s saying that, having seen what was going on, the parents should have done more.

          • laura r

            she pursued him unrelentlessly. it was a no brainer that this would happen.

          • smab70

            No reason to kill her.

          • laura r

            hello: this is what they do. hello! everyone knows this. hello. i grew up too w/choices. i could have gone to a terrible neighborhood & hung out on the other side of the tracks. murder is a way of life w/muslim culture. the girl was out of control, & sleeping around w/other muslims. the mother hit her in the face, that was a warning. there was something masocistic about that girl.

    • Rachel Levy

      I agree too bad the Europeans don’t have a death sentence. He doesn’t even have any remorse,and that poor girl actually loved the evil bastard.

    • GoneApe

      You are right there. If you kill a Texan, Texas will kill you back. This guy should be dumped in the canal next to where he killed his girlfriend.

    • DV

      The Brits, by the way, did away with capital punishment entirely in the 1950s. Despite many calls to restore it, especially in murders occurring in the course of terrorist acts, the death penalty has not been restored thanks to the liberals and far-left idiots who have put Britain on a suicide course over the last 30 plus years.

  • Trey

    But we cant judge they are from a different culture… oh wait so are we and our culture says men like this get to lay down and get a nice long nap.. Dirt nap that is. Well at least in Texas.

  • Trey

    But we cant judge they are from a different culture… oh wait so are we and our culture says men like this get to lay down and get a nice long nap.. Dirt nap that is. Well at least in Texas.

  • Veracious_one

    Love is Un-Islamic….

  • Veracious_one

    Love is Un-Islamic….

    • dukestreet

      True, she made the mistake of loving him and believing he loved her. Islam does not have love, only fear and anger, especially when it comes to females. Have you ever noticed a female Muslim woman with a white or non-Muslim man? No, it doesn’t happen because it is not allowed. Any Muslim woman caught with a non-Muslim will be killed. The other way around is acceptable because Mo told his men they could have the wives of those he captured. Non-Muslim women with Muslim men are essentially in that category(conquered) as far as Islam is concerned,which is why she was treated exactly as her mother said. We will have great problems in the west, because we keep bringing these people who are told to hate us in their Koran. They will never integrate and will out breed us very quickly. They bring up to 4 wives with them and our governments accept them even though it’s against the law here. Our culture is definitely superior to theirs. If you think that’s racist,you’ve never read the Koran and hadith etc. it’s just the truth. Multiculturalism is a farce.

      • Moa

        > ” female Muslim woman with a white or non-Muslim man?”

        Grover Norquist (who probably converted) and Anthony Wiener (whose wife is a Muslim Brotherhood ‘Princess’ and probably used him as camouflage – hence his sexting) do come to mind. However, it seems Muslim women do this in acts of deception to get powerful men to act for them.

  • iluvisrael

    Strange – he looks like such an upstanding young man – especially with the earring. He and his family are savages, but a non muslim girl or woman who gets involved with a moslem is often mistreated or worse. All gals swooning over a muzzy should be forced to watch “Not Without my Daughter”

  • iluvisrael

    Strange – he looks like such an upstanding young man – especially with the earring. He and his family are savages, but a non muslim girl or woman who gets involved with a moslem is often mistreated or worse. All gals swooning over a muzzy should be forced to watch “Not Without my Daughter”

  • Shawn

    “her mother, Maggie, believes Ashtiaq was just using Laura for sex and treated her badly.”

    Here is a good moral. Do not have sexual relations with someone you would not marry.

    What does it say about a culture, where their men will have sex with women outside their culture but will routinely not marry them?

    Such a culture is an abomination.

  • Shawn

    “her mother, Maggie, believes Ashtiaq was just using Laura for zex and treated her badly.”

    Here is a good moral. Do not have sexual relations with someone you would not marry.

    What does it say about a culture, where their men will have sex with women outside their culture but will routinely not marry them?

    Such a culture is an abomination.

  • laura r

    again its partly the fault of the girls family. how much dating goes on between muslim boys & white girls? in europe canada & the US? that would be a good read. editors: take note.

  • Jack

    “because she believed her teachers and politicians who told her that the new immigrants were just as English as she was and might even have superior cultural values.”

    This is a true statement.

    I have cousin, who married an Native American. Although the parents of my cousin were educators, the mother was furious. My old man just though it was funny, because they preached and preached and then their child does exactly what they preached and then they were upset.

  • Jack

    “because she believed her teachers and politicians who told her that the new immigrants were just as English as she was and might even have superior cultural values.”

    This is a true statement.

    I have cousin, who married an Native American. Although the parents of my cousin were educators, the mother was furious. My old man just though it was funny, because they preached and preached and then their child does exactly what they preached and then they were upset.

  • Mr T

    Parents have got to try.

    But do parents have more influence than the combination of peers, educators and the general culture?

    My family is mixed race. So I have a lot of skin in the game for America to be tolerant. Yet many leftists would consider me racist.
    F___ Them! These people are part of the problem. Yet they make a great show of tolerance like putting up billboards all over the city on tolerance showing a picture of the multicultural hand grasp. Meanwhile they let the Black Panthers intimidate people at the polls based on race. the two are just incongruent.

  • Paul of Alexandria

    The problem isn’t race, per se, it’s culture. My church has many mixed-race families – but we all share the same culture and beliefs. What the Brits need to recognize is that their culture is under attack, and that the Pakistani Muslim immigrants have no intention of sharing it.

    Of course one might also ask why the parents were so accepting of a girl sleeping with and having a child by a man out of wedlock.

  • Spryte

    Sleeping with vipers is fatal.

  • Spryte

    Sleeping with vipers is fatal.

  • Kathy Thompson Ellis

    How is it even partly the fault of her family that her boyfriend killed her? How can you put the blame for his actions on them? He is a murderer. He is a muslim and thinks that it is okay to kill anyone if they offend him. especially a woman. especially a non-muslim woman. Her family may have wished that she not see him. Her family might even have insisted that she not see him. But they are no way at fault for his maniacal decision to murder her.

  • Mr T

    Did I conflate race and culture? Guilty. But it is how the left talks bout it, which isn’t particularly wise.

    Because the left will do so until you use their same shorthand and then turn on you and painstakingly point out the difference and act all offended.

  • Jakareh

    She should get a Darwin Award as far as I’m concerned. She “worshipped the ground” this Muslim scumbag (there’s a redundancy for you) walked on—I mean, what the hell was that about? The only thing to regret is that British liberals did away with hanging.

  • JayTee

    All or Europe, Scandinavia, and the U. K. are now starting to pay the price for their massive importation of the cheap labor and cheap liberal votes from the Middle East, just as the U. S. is now starting to realize the price of its cheap labor and cheap liberal votes from third-world “Latino” populations. The liberals and the profiteers just don’t want to hear that there are dramatic cultural, social, and moral value differences between civilized societies and the hoards of third-world rabble who summarily demand and take whatever we’re stupid enough let them steal. NOW we’re starting to ante up for worshiping the god of “diversity” and “multi-cultural” blindness and insanity. Thank a liberal or a self-serving opportunist as you pay your unfair share of this asininity.

  • JayTee

    All or Europe, Scandinavia, and the U. K. are now starting to pay the price for their massive importation of the cheap labor and cheap liberal votes from the Middle East, just as the U. S. is now starting to realize the price of its cheap labor and cheap liberal votes from third-world “Latino” populations. The liberals and the profiteers just don’t want to hear that there are dramatic cultural, social, and moral value differences between civilized societies and the hoards of third-world rabble who summarily demand and take whatever we’re stupid enough let them steal. NOW we’re starting to ante up for worshiping the god of “diversity” and “multi-cultural” blindness and insanity. Thank a liberal or a self-serving opportunist as you pay your unfair share of this asininity.

    • john spielman

      at least the “Latinos don’t try and KILL YOU! The vast number are Christian (though maybe in name only) and most do work hard in manual labor jobs even if here illegally. (Though the Mexican drug cartels are a different breed of violent mafia type -just like Jihadists.)

      • ziggy zoggy

        Actually, Mexicans have the second highest crime rate in America after Blacks. And quite frankly, who isn’t superior to the islamopithecines? At least Mexicans make good food.

        • laura r

          most of the lower class mexicans are trash. not all, find a good one its like gold. its an agressive violent emotionally immature atzeca culture. know their history. (most workers & welfare recips are mostly indigious/blk decent). these folks lie just like the arabs, hate white folks especially n.americans. they also are abusive, lie & steal from each other. they are a cross between islamic & gypsie. yes americans fawn all over them.

        • The March Hare

          “At least Mexicans make good food.”
          Really? I’ve never eaten one.

          • ziggy zoggy

            They’re good grilled with onions and peppers fajita style.

      • laura r

        they dont kill for religion no agenda there. but they will kill during a robbery, more now than ever. home invasions are one of their specialities. no not all are poor, sometimes its just greed.

    • laura r

      guess what? most muslims dont work they are on welfare. dont fall for that cheap worker line.

  • Softly Bob

    “Laura’s crime was to bring dishonour on her Muslim lover Ashtiaq Ashgar,
    21, who is now serving a life sentence for the brutal murder.”

    He’ll have a cushy time in jail – plenty of halal food and time to practise dawah. He should have been strung up.

  • JayTee

    You’re right. Everyone likes to try to pin all this on a race issue, when it’s actually due to total dissimilarity between cultures. Many organisms walk on two legs like we do, but many have totally divergent values, and are often totally predatory and parasitical in nature. Of course the liberal mindset will deny this forever, and claim that if we just give them enough welfare and latitude, everyone will be equally satisfied and successful.

  • john spielman

    at least the “Latinos don’t try and KILL YOU! The vast number are Christian (though maybe in name only) and most do work hard in manual labor jobs even if here illegally. (Though the Mexican drug cartels are a different breed of violent mafia type -just like Jihadists.)

  • Infidel4Ever

    A sad story. One that will become increasingly common as Europe falls.

  • Infidel4Ever

    A sad story. One that will become increasingly common as Europe falls.

  • Infidel4Ever

    And he’s only serving 17 and half years for a cruel brutal murder, assuming they don’t parole him. Lord, this world is so upside down.

  • Infidel4Ever

    And he’s only serving 17 and half years for a cruel brutal murder, assuming they don’t parole him. Lord, this world is so upside down.

    • UCSPanther

      The noose would be more fitting considering that the crime was premeditated and its overall brutality.

    • DV

      Then they’ll send him back to Pakistan or whatever. He’ll be a rock star.

  • UCSPanther

    Not just an honor killing, but a “tie-up-all-loose-ends” killing as well too…

  • UCSPanther

    Not just an honor killing, but a “tie-up-all-loose-ends” killing as well too…

    Also, a gruesome object lesson to what can happen when a western woman foolishly messes around with a foreign culture that treats women as prized possessions at best. I feel that some of the victim’s antics were reprehensible (sleeping with a married man and having a child in an effort to manipulate her would-be killer), but he topped her by being more morally reprehensible and slaughtering her in response when she tried to threaten his status.

  • UCSPanther

    The noose would be more fitting considering that the crime was premeditated and its overall brutality.

  • Texas Patriot

    Multiculturalism is a tragedy for everyone.

  • Texas Patriot

    Multiculturalism is a tragedy for everyone.

    • Drakken

      Multiculturalism is a one way ticket to a very uncivil war Balkans style.

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        And it’s coming closer, on both sides of the Pond. Having experienced this kind of war, I can tell you and everyone here that Civil War 2 will make the Civil War look like a Sunday School picnic, it will kill millions, and leave the United States weak and divided, physically. It will not be a gentleman’s war, by any stretch of the imagination …

        • Drakken

          The Balkans on steroids is coming that will make a Serb blush. The Europeans once that sleeping Dragon of nationalism awakes, all bets are off and no leftist or minority or muslim will be spared, and it will spread here to the US and Canada. The useful idiots of multiculturalism and diversity will have opened Pandora’s Box of horrors.

    • christophercilley

      Multiculturalism is a house divided against itself!

      • Texas Patriot

        Exactly. Basically it’s the intentional destruction of the sense of national identity and common purpose that every nation and every civilization needs to survive and thrive in the hostile world in which we live.

        • christophercilley

          That Multiculturalism along with political correctness is a Marxist principle employed to undermine our values! That began back in the 20’s and has been carried forward through the ACLU and the American Psycharactic Association.

          • Texas Patriot

            Nothing could have been more devastating and potentially destructive to Western Civilization.

          • christophercilley

            Here’s an interesting video for ya! Very enlightening . .

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjaBpVzOohs

          • Texas Patriot

            I appreciate that video very much, and I think it would be very helpful for anyone who wants to understand how we have gone a long way toward sacrificing the ideals of Western Civilization without a fight. But I don’t think so-called “political correctness” movement will be fatal to the West.

            There was perhaps a necessity for expanding the universalist ideals of Thomas Jefferson to all the peoples of the world, and I think at this point we have done a pretty good job of doing that. And at this point I think it is fair to say that Americans are now fully prepared to recognize the humanity of individuals from different cultures from all over the world, and that is nothing but a good thing.

            Unfortunately, we may have let down the walls and opened the doors a little too widely without knowing that we were allowing in philosophical elements committed to the overthrow the ideals of Human Rights, Individual Freedom, and Constitutional Democracy which lie at the very heart of Western Civilization. Perhaps we need to make some minor adjustments in that regard.

          • Drakken

            Still under the impression that the coming Balkans on steroids will be bloodless?

          • Texas Patriot

            Stranger things have happened. Look at it this way. Islamic invaders have enjoyed a free ride in the West under the false pretense of being a religion of peace. Now their disguise is coming off and we are beginning to see them for what they really are. Would you stick around under those circumstances? There’s an old Bedouin tradition of “disappearing in the night” from a hostile oasis where you are severely outnumbered. To see that kind of thing in the West wouldn’t surprise me at all.

  • Veracious_one

    He’s being totally Un-Islamic….he should have married her and at least 3 others……maybe she would have been happily married to a Muslim….but I doubt it…Mommas don’t let your daughters grow up to be Muslim….

  • Veracious_one

    He’s being totally Un-Islamic….he should have married her and at least 3 others……maybe she would have been happily married to a Muslim….but I doubt it…Mommas don’t let your daughters grow up to be Muslim….

    • Andrew

      but then what time would he have for Thursday night club or goats?

  • DogmaelJones1

    I do not understand why European women — and even American women — find Muslims so attractive, when they’ve heard so many stories like Laura’s ending in misery and even death. Is there some mystique about Muslim men that these women find Irresistible? If there is, then that mystique is deadly.

  • DogmaelJones1

    I do not understand why European women — and even American women — find Muslims so attractive, when they’ve heard so many stories like Laura’s ending in misery and even death. Is there some mystique about Muslim men that these women find Irresistible? If there is, then that mystique is deadly.

    • Drakken

      Because they have been told since the time they can walk is that white males are all bad, and all minorities are exotic and good, and they bought into to this multicultural diversity stupidity hook, line and sinker. One of these days one of those darlings of the left is going to run into the wrong father, then watch as the race grievance theater crowd come crawling out of the woodwork, but by then it will be game on and nobody is going to care at that point, let it rain.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Because she was fat and loose and British guys treat girls as discardable s&x toys. She was the best the Paki dweeb could score. She deserved better.

      • laura r

        she was a pretty girl, not that obese. over weight girls still have decent boyfriends.

        • ziggy zoggy

          A lot of them have low self esteem. No girl with an ounce of it would have let that ugly little dweeb touch her. He even dressed like a dork.

    • jrpaphos

      Because they think THEY and the BOYFRIEND are different. They get sweet talked and believe everything they are told by boys/men, but with Muslims, things are much more dangerous. Not just getting left as a single mother, but…DEAD

      It is very sad but I have worked with many teenage girls and a lot of them don’t understand many young males agenda.

    • The March Hare

      One of the big problems of women, both British and American, is the “mommy” instinct. They fall in love with the “bad boy” and think they are so “cool” and that they can “fix” them. This propensity of women to “fix” broken or misguided men is the reason for the large amount of abusive or just unhappy relationships. Women are attracted to the “bad boys” and feel safe around them, because men tend to treat women special in order to lure them into having sex, giving women the false impression that the bad boy would never be bad to the “woman they love”. It mostly turns out that a rotten SOB is a rotten SOB, no matter what. You are either grounded in moral principles, or you are not. It is the “It would never happen to me” attitude.

    • laura r

      trendy. the forbiddon. also the PR of how misunderstood they are.

    • DV

      Oh it’s the tall, dark, stranger thing. Besides, she was a child. Of course, it’s the mystique. That’s why mystique is called mystique. There’s no accounting for tastes in the opposite sex. Besides, one psychological theory is that one is attracted to another because of a desire or fantasy to change the other. It’s called co-dependency.

  • sean,from across the pond

    europe will be mostly muslim in 50 years,take a stand now before its to late!

  • sean,from across the pond

    europe will be mostly muslim in 50 years,take a stand now before its to late!

    • laura r

      it is too late.

  • Biff Henderson

    Now if Laura had showed up at the door topless with contract of bondage in hand…

  • Biff Henderson

    Now if Laura had showed up at the door topless with contract of bondage in hand…

  • Drakken

    Multiculturalism is a one way ticket to a very uncivil war Balkans style.

  • Drakken

    Because they have been told since the time they can walk is that white males are all bad, and all minorities are exotic and good, and they bought into to this multicultural diversity stupidity hook, line and sinker. One of these days one of those darlings of the left is going to run into the wrong father, then watch as the race grievance theater crowd come crawling out of the woodwork, but by then it will be game on and nobody is going to care at that point, let it rain.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “Did I conflate race and culture? Guilty. But it is how the left talks bout it, which isn’t particularly wise.”

    They do it to trap opposition. You’re a “racist” if you criticize barbaric or inferior culture according to them. Don’t fall for the trap.

  • DV

    This is probably only the tip of the iceberg, and I think it’s interesting that this murder occurred back in 2010, and we in the US are only now learning of it. Britain is finished.

  • DV

    This is probably only the tip of the iceberg, and I think it’s interesting that this murder occurred back in 2010, and we in the US are only now learning of it. Britain is finished.

    • Drakken

      It is not done yet, not by a long shot. The one thing I can always depend on where human nature is concerned, is when push comes to shove, those old ancient roots really do come out and play, and play they will, with a vengeance.

  • GoneApe

    You are right there. If you kill a Texan, Texas will kill you back. This guy should be dumped in the canal next to where he killed his girlfriend.

  • ziggy zoggy

    Actually, Mexicans have the second highest crime rate in America after Blacks. And quite frankly, who isn’t superior to the islamopithecines? At least Mexicans make good food.

  • Softly Bob

    Yes, but at least us Brits live in a beautiful rainbow country of wondrous diversity and that is more important than any human life.

  • Softly Bob

    Yes, but at least us Brits live in a beautiful rainbow country of wondrous diversity and that is more important than any human life. (sarc off)

    • laura r

      actually thats far from sarc, many multiculturists say these exact words.

  • ziggy zoggy

    Because she was fat and loose and British guys treat girls as discardable s&x toys. She was the best the Paki dweeb could score. She deserved better.

  • DV

    Parents and their parental authority everywhere have been undermined by the collectivist social institutions that have overtaken American institutions, particularly public schools.

  • Andrew

    but then what time would he have for Thursday night club or goats?

  • DV

    I agree to some extent, however, let’s suppose that this situation involved a white girl and a black boy with no religious differences. Call me a racist if you will, but the fact is that any parent who attempts to assert his or her right to determine who their minor child associates with, will be branded a racist or a bigot. They will also get no cooperation whatsoever from school authorities or police. This is so even though a parent of a minor child in the U.S. has a perfect LEGAL RIGHT to control, dictate, and define the social life of a minor child, and to tell their child who is acceptable as a friend, boyfriend, girlfriend, or associate, even if their basis for so doing is racist or “bigoted.” A recent case in Florida involved an 18 year old girl who seduced a 15 year old girl into a lesbian relationship. The 15 year old girl’s parents complained to police, and the police, quite appropriately, arrested the 18 year old who now faces charges of sexual battery on a child. The outcry from the lesbian community was deafening, and the matter made the national news, as if the parents of the younger child had done something wrong or the police had done something wrong in charging the 18 year old girl with a crime. This case, in my view, was still an aberration because few, if any, social institutions are willing to support parents for fear of the outcry from leftists who recognize no parental right of authority whatsoever anymore.

  • DV

    The Brits, by the way, did away with capital punishment entirely in the 1950s. Despite many calls to restore it, especially in murders occurring in the course of terrorist acts, the death penalty has not been restored thanks to the liberals and far-left idiots who have put Britain on a suicide course over the last 30 plus years.

  • Drakken

    It is not done yet, not by a long shot. The one thing I can always depend on where human nature is concerned, is when push comes to shove, those old ancient roots really do come out and play, and play they will, with a vengeance.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    This appears to be just another consequence of the clueless infidel world treating what is really jihad (holy war) as if it is only terrorism perpetrated by a few extremists. I have a feeling that if the infidel world acknowledged the jihad (holy war) the Islamic world is waging against it, instead of ignorantly believing that it is just terrorism perpetrated by few extremists, that the infidel would hardly be allowing millions of jihadists to migrate to their countries and infiltrate them in mass.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    This appears to be just another consequence of the clueless infidel world treating what is really jihad (holy war) as if it is only terrorism perpetrated by a few extremists. I have a feeling that if the infidel world acknowledged the jihad (holy war) the Islamic world is waging against it, instead of ignorantly believing that it is just terrorism perpetrated by few extremists, that the infidel would hardly be allowing millions of jihadists to migrate to their countries and infiltrate them in mass.

  • PV

    Traditional British culture is BETTER than Islam. I grieve for the British people. This is the fruit of political correctness.

  • PV

    Traditional British culture is BETTER than Islam. I grieve for the British people. This is the fruit of political correctness.

    • laura r

      fruit of stupidity. correct? whats correct?

      • Wolfthatknowsall

        Yep. Political correctness is stupidity …

  • laura r

    she slept w/his best friend, she was pregnant @16. pursued him no matter how much he told her to get lost. he didnt stalk her, she chased him. the girl had serious issues. ok she was young, i understand. take these issues & multiply it w/a muslim & this is what you get. the parents should have not let her out of the house, grounded her. call the police or even the EDL if she went missing. she was under 18 & living home & also had a baby? parents were not strict enough, sorry.

  • laura r

    fruit of stupidity. correct? whats correct?

  • laura r

    it is too late.

  • laura r

    guess what? most muslims dont work they are on welfare. dont fall for that cheap worker line.

  • laura r

    most of the lower class mexicans are trash. not all, find a good one its like gold. its an agressive violent emotionally immature atzeca culture. know their history. (most workers & welfare recips are mostly indigious/blk decent). these folks lie just like the arabs, hate white folks especially n.americans. they also are abusive, lie & steal from each other. they are a cross between islamic & gypsie. yes americans fawn all over them.

  • laura r

    they dont kill for religion no agenda there. but they will kill during a robbery, more now than ever. home invasions are one of their specialities. no not all are poor, sometimes its just greed.

  • laura r

    actually thats far from sarc, many multiculturists say these exact words.

  • Geoffrey_Britain

    “Laura’s crime was to bring dishonour on her Muslim lover Ashtiaq Ashgar, 21, who is now serving a life sentence for the brutal murder.”

    “On December 21 the judge sentenced 18-year-old Ashtiaq to 17-and-a-half years imprisonment for Laura’s murder.”

    Which is it? A “17-and-a-half years imprisonment” is not “a life sentence for the brutal murder”

    But in any case, the sentence is not just. Drowning him in a pig’s blood would be justice.

  • Geoffrey_Britain

    “Laura’s crime was to bring dishonour on her Muslim lover Ashtiaq Ashgar, 21, who is now serving a life sentence for the brutal murder.”

    “On December 21 the judge sentenced 18-year-old Ashtiaq to 17-and-a-half years imprisonment for Laura’s murder.”

    Which is it? A “17-and-a-half years imprisonment” is not “a life sentence for the brutal murder”

    But in any case, the sentence is not just. Drowning him in a pig’s blood would be justice.

    • Drakken

      A rope and a pigs foot shoved in his mouth works for me, and let him hang there for at least 6 months as a nice reminder to the other savages of what will happen if they cross the line.

  • dukestreet

    True, she made the mistake of loving him and believing he loved her. Islam does not have love, only fear and anger, especially when it comes to females. Have you ever noticed a female Muslim woman with a white or non-Muslim man? No, it doesn’t happen because it is not allowed. Any Muslim woman caught with a non-Muslim will be killed. The other way around is acceptable because Mo told his men they could have the wives of those he captured. Non-Muslim women with Muslim men are essentially in that category(conquered) as far as Islam is concerned,which is why she was treated exactly as her mother said. We will have great problems in the west, because we keep bringing these people who are told to hate us in their Koran. They will never integrate and will out breed us very quickly. They bring up to 4 wives with them and our governments accept them even though it’s against the law here. Our culture is definitely superior to theirs. If you think that’s racist,you’ve never read the Koran and hadith etc. it’s just the truth. Multiculturalism is a farce.

  • Jimmy Allen

    The muslims are savages, plain and simple.

  • Jimmy Allen

    The muslims are savages, plain and simple.

  • errruhhhahhh

    Hah! What an idiot…

  • errruhhhahhh

    Hah! What an idiot…

  • Wolfthatknowsall

    And it’s coming closer, on both sides of the Pond. Having experienced this kind of war, I can tell you and everyone here that Civil War 2 will make the Civil War look like a Sunday School picnic, it will kill millions, and leave the United States weak and divided, physically. It will not be a gentleman’s war, by any stretch of the imagination …

  • Wolfthatknowsall

    Yep. Political correctness is stupidity …

  • Moa

    > ” female Muslim woman with a white or non-Muslim man?”

    Grover Norquist (who probably converted) and Anthony Wiener (whose wife is a Muslim Brotherhood ‘Princess’ and probably used him as camouflage – hence his sexting) do come to mind. However, it seems Muslim women do this in acts of deception to get powerful men to act for them.

  • ziggy zoggy

    The last time I checked, the age of sexual consent in decadent Britain was fifteen years old. That was fifteen years ago.

  • ziggy zoggy

    Parents in Britain have even less legal control of their teenagers than American parents do. And British teens are even more out of control than American teens.

  • jrpaphos

    Because they think THEY and the BOYFRIEND are different. They get sweet talked and believe everything they are told by boys/men, but with Muslims, things are much more dangerous. Not just getting left as a single mother, but…DEAD

    It is very sad but I have worked with many teenage girls and a lot of them don’t understand many young males agenda.

  • Bob

    And that justified her murder?? You are sick.

  • The March Hare

    I went and looked it up. It is currently 16 according to this article of a few days ago.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508665/Prime-Minister-swiftly-rejects-health-experts-lower-age-consent-15.html

  • The March Hare

    Bob, read her whole comment. She’s not saying it justified murder, she’s saying that, having seen what was going on, the parents should have done more.

  • The March Hare

    “At least Mexicans make good food.”
    Really? I’ve never eaten one.

  • smab70

    No, 16, there trying to lower it to 15.

  • smab70

    No reason to kill her.

  • ziggy zoggy

    Disgusting. No wonder they have so many child prostitution rings. And a people with such immoral laws fare to be so sanctimonius?

  • ziggy zoggy

    They’re good grilled with onions and peppers fajita style.

  • JeremyBeadleswitheredhand

    everyone is calling this the first Muslim-on-White honour killing, it really isn’t. It’s simply the first one recognized as such. There are many records of Muslims murdering their white lovers in the uk and europe.

  • JeremyBeadleswitheredhand

    everyone is calling this the first Muslim-on-White honour killing, it really isn’t. It’s simply the first one recognized as such. There are many records of Muslims murdering their white lovers in the uk and europe.

  • sheikyermami

    Tony BLiar, Jack Straw, Gordon Brown and now David Camoron (and all their fellow travellers) should hang for this.

  • sheikyermami

    Tony BLiar, Jack Straw, Gordon Brown and now David Camoron (and all their fellow travellers) should hang for this.

  • sheikyermami

    Its not race, and its not ‘culture’.

    Its Islam.

  • Paul of Alexandria

    Agreed. There are many angles to this situation. A healthy society should support parents in their decisions, but then conflict between parents and teenagers, especially in the matter of choosing a mate, has been the root of stories since literature began. One would also hope that a society that is officially Christian, with the monarch as the head of the church, would endorse and support Christian values, especially against Muslim ones.

  • laura r

    michael savage showed photos of girls drunk in the streets. i know this.

  • laura r

    she pursued him unrelentlessly. it was a no brainer that this would happen.

  • laura r

    hello: this is what they do. hello! everyone knows this. hello. i grew up too w/choices. i could have gone to a terrible neighborhood & hung out on the other side of the tracks. murder is a way of life w/muslim culture. the girl was out of control, & sleeping around w/other muslims. the mother hit her in the face, that was a warning. there was something masocistic about that girl.

  • laura r

    you mean like in pre ww2 germany? like w/the hitler youth movement?

  • laura r

    they get off on the violence. why? because they themselves want to do it too. dont have the guts, so they follow the drama. am i on to something?

  • laura r

    trendy. the forbiddon. also the PR of how misunderstood they are.

  • laura r

    she was a pretty girl, not that obese. over weight girls still have decent boyfriends.

  • ziggy zoggy

    A lot of them have low self esteem. No girl with an ounce of it would have let that ugly little dweeb touch her. He even dressed like a dork.

  • christophercilley

    Multiculturalism is a house divided against itself!

  • Texas Patriot

    Exactly. Basically it’s the intentional destruction of the sense of national identity and common purpose that every nation and every civilization needs to survive and thrive in the hostile world in which we live.

  • Joe schmoe

    Actually, I’m extremely familiar with this case and once held your opinion until I heard the actual merits of the case. What is left out of this story, conveniently, is the fact that the porported ’18 year old’ was much younger when this relationship began, and therefore not at all illegal. It was consensual and the two girls were in high school together and even on the same sports team. It was only after their relationship continued after the older girl turned 18, and therefore ‘statgatory that the younger gorl’s parents were able to make an arguement’. It is completely ridiculous, and does appear to be motivated by hatred for the homosexual community alone.

  • christophercilley

    That Multiculturalism along with political correctness is a Marxist principle employed to undermine our values! That began back in the 20’s and has been carried forward through the ACLU and the American Psycharactic Association.

  • Texas Patriot

    Nothing could have been more devastating and potentially destructive to Western Civilization.

  • christophercilley

    Here’s an interesting video for ya! Very enlightening . .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjaBpVzOohs

  • Hard Little Machine

    Seventeen and a half years? That’s preposterous. Hopefully some right thinking liberals will intervene and free him from prison with a swift apology soon.

  • Hard Little Machine

    Seventeen and a half years? That’s preposterous. Hopefully some right thinking liberals will intervene and free him from prison with a swift apology soon.

  • Mainlander

    False. “Hunt, who was 18 when their sexual involvement began in late 2012. An arrest affidavit said that in December the freshman sent text messages
    to Hunt, arranging to meet in a school restroom toilet stall, where the girls “started kissing. Kaitlyn then took [the 14-year-old’s] pants off and put her finger inside of [the 14-year-old’s] vagina.”” http://www.viralread.com/2013/10/03/photo-kaitlyn-hunt-sex-florida-teen-lesbian-plea-bargain/

    You can read a whole lot of what went on here:

    http://theothermccain.com/category/crime/kaitlyn-hunt/

  • Texas Patriot

    I appreciate that video very much, and I think it would be very helpful for anyone who wants to understand how we have gone a long way toward sacrificing the ideals of Western Civilization without a fight. But I don’t think so-called “political correctness” movement will be fatal to the West.

    There was perhaps a necessity for expanding the universalist ideals of Thomas Jefferson to all the peoples of the world, and I think at this point we have done a pretty good job of doing that. And at this point I think it is fair to say that Americans are now fully prepared to recognize the humanity of individuals from different cultures from all over the world, and that is nothing but a good thing.

    Unfortunately, we may have let down the walls and opened the doors a little too widely without knowing that we were allowing in philosophical elements committed to the overthrow the ideals of Human Rights, Individual Freedom, and Constitutional Democracy which lie at the very heart of Western Civilization. Perhaps we need to make some minor adjustments in that regard.

  • Drakken

    It’s all three.

  • Drakken

    The Balkans on steroids is coming that will make a Serb blush. The Europeans once that sleeping Dragon of nationalism awakes, all bets are off and no leftist or minority or muslim will be spared, and it will spread here to the US and Canada. The useful idiots of multiculturalism and diversity will have opened Pandora’s Box of horrors.

  • Drakken

    Still under the impression that the coming Balkans on steroids will be bloodless?

  • Drakken

    A rope and a pigs foot shoved in his mouth works for me, and let him hang there for at least 6 months as a nice reminder to the other savages of what will happen if they cross the line.

  • Texas Patriot

    Stranger things have happened. Look at it this way. Islamic invaders have enjoyed a free ride in the West under the false pretense of being a religion of peace. Now their disguise is coming off and we are beginning to see them for what they really are. Would you stick around under those circumstances? There’s an old Bedouin tradition of “disappearing in the night” from a hostile oasis where you are severely outnumbered. To see that kind of thing in the West wouldn’t surprise me at all.

  • L

    She was not a 10 but she very pretty.

    I agree with ziggy. She probably had low self esteem and so was set up by it to be targeted by a creep. I bet psychologists could prove it.

    She did deserve better.

    • DV

      I’ve known really pretty women who went with truly ugly men. In some cases, they weren’t men with anything on the ball. Some women have emotional reasons for things that we don’t see or understand. For example, I know a woman who at age 50 or so got together with this ugly, nasty, and low-brow jerk who happened to be a rock musician decades ago. I think she liked the limelight–being the center of attention and on stage. It was a beauty and the beast thing from my perspective, but I suppose it met some kind of need she had to be on stage, the center of attention or something. Anyway, they broke up which didn’t really surprise me. At least he didn’t kill her.

  • Bob

    Out of control or not. Stalker or not, Sleeping around or not. There is no way on this earth did that girl deserve to be murdered and you sick ba5tards who say otherwise are no different to the evil scum who sank the knives into her! You’re SICK!

    • DV

      No one here said she deserved to be murdered. Some of us said that it’s not a surprise that she was murdered. You read way too much between the lines, Bob. Don’t you think you’ve had enough to drink tonight?

  • laura r

    this should be a book or seris of articals.

  • DV

    I never said the first thing about the LEGALITY of their relationship. This case involved two British teenagers. The legality of their relationship is completely irrelevant to my point. My point was that parents in the U.S. have an absolutely perfect legal right to say who their children (under age 18) will have as friends and/or boyfriends-girlfriends. That right is absolute. A parent of a child under age 18 CAN tell his or her child that he or she may not associate with this or that other person based on the other person’s religion or race. My second point is that American social institutions no longer support this parental right.

  • DV

    That IS sick. Anyway, parents in the UK should have an absolute right of control over their children until age 18, irrespective of the age of consent.

  • DV

    No doubt so that Muslim boys can continue to use English girls with impunity and for their pleasures, then kick them to the curb when they’ve satisfied their desires for the 72 English virgins to which they feel entitled.

  • Critist

    “In Islamic culture, women, especially non-Muslim ones, have no value.” You say? Please, I beg you, STOP blaming my religion for such terrible events that happen! There are hundreds of millions of muslims on the world and just because some are sick enough to kill a woman, this does not mean my religion does not respect women! Please try to choose some better CLASSIFICATION, if you so much need it, that would not include ME or any other MUSLIMS I know, who are all capable of understanding the value of women and who would just laugh at the over-eagerness of the editors who are trying to make Islam the Enemy in your eyes.

    • DV

      I hope you don’t live in the U.S.

      • Critist

        Why?

  • DV

    In Texas, it wasn’t long ago he’d have been found swinging from a oak tree, and there’s absolutely nothing that anyone would have dared to do about it.

  • DV

    Look at the collection of sick perverts, gaybos and lesbos who show up for a group photo in support of Hunt, the perpetrator. What about support for the victim? She was a CHILD! Children have a RIGHT to grow up UNMOLESTED. They’re not mature enough to know what is right for them. These gaybos and lesbos are getting sicker and more arrogant by the day. Even if Hunt did the victim no physical harm, she has done incalculable emotional harm. The victim will probably suffer from sexual identity confusion the rest of her life whether or not she becomes lesbian after she’s an adult.

  • DV

    Ziggy, I saw yesterday that Scotland Yard believes that some 5000 people are held as slaves in Britain. With all those Muslims there, I dare say the number could very well be much, much, higher than that. And Scotland Yard is probably going to be pressured to be quiet about slavery in Britain, the very nation that led the western nations to abolition.

  • DV

    I frankly don’t care if they call me a racist. They call me a racist because I’m white. They don’t need another reason much less a real one.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      It’s not that I care what they think about me, but that I refuse to let them revise our language(s) to make their ideas dominant.

  • Critist

    You are ignorant, wild and trying to attract attention!

  • DV

    Yes, there’s a criminologist named Jack Katz who theorizes that most youthful crime is the result of thrills, i.e., malignant narcissism among youth. It’s called post-modernist criminology. Watch when they arrest black kids in this country. They make a big show for the public and the cameras. They mug, they clown around, no big deal if I rob, rape, or kill whitey. It’s all a big joke. It’s the malignant narcissism of leftist and nihilistic culture that creates the Trayvon Martins. And you can thank Al Sharpton for a lot of this phenomenon, since he’s one who has done the same thing, although he was smart enough to keep it at that margins of legality. He’s made a mint off of the stupidity of white liberals.

  • DV

    Well, in post WWI Germany, because of the crushing economic depression there was a lot of crime, mental illness, and sheer madness. You could see it in the streets in Berlin and the major cities. Prostitution, semi-public homosexuality, and decadence everywhere. The Nazis were only one group which originated in this widespread social anomie. Their appeal was to a kind of collectivist savagery claiming origins in German mythology. But the Nazis were by no means the only such group; there were others of the right and left which promised economic plenty for all. The Nazis and communist groups were engaged in street wars. and Hitler was arrested in the Beer Hall putsch, which had threatened the existence of the Weimar Republic itself. Long story, but it all had to do with collectivist groups including the Nazis, the ones who won in the streets who then appealed to a wider public for political support. But remember, that the Nazis just barely won the elections which brought them and Hitler to power. They won a bare plurality not a majority. Hitler then seized total power once he was named Chancellor and installed the dictatorship.

  • DV

    Whatever they are, I despise them.

  • DV

    Does the story indicate that her parents knew or were involved? All I can say is that had I been her father and learned of any of this, I would have found SOME way to get her away from this Muslim boy. I don’t blame them whatever the case. I just know that I would have taken action to secure her safety no matter how she cursed or offended me as her parent. I insist that I will say who she can have as a boyfriend until she’s 18.

  • DV

    She made mistakes. Children do, and that’s why parents MUST have the RIGHT to control their children’s social lives until the age of majority.

  • DV

    laura r didn’t say that you nitwit!

  • DV

    Britain is finished. There is no future for white or Christian people in the UK. This will happen again and again and again from now until doomsday. There’s absolutely nothing the British people can do about it, not in an individual sense or in a corporate sense. This is what left-wing Brits like George Galloway wanted, and now they’re getting it, but the left-wing British media covers it up at every opportunity.

  • DV

    You didn’t read the article, smab. It said she slept with another Muslim boy, got pregnant, and THAT was the reason he felt his “honor” had been impugned. That’s the reason he killed her.

  • DV

    For the UK, it IS too late! It’s only a shame that someone can’t hang George Galloway from an oak tree before they put the lights out on Britain.

  • DV

    No, they’re not gypsies. But otherwise you’re right. Mexicans are the most emotionally charged, hot-blooded, people on the earth. Don’t get around them when they’re drunk. On the other hand, they have a lot of good qualities, but the lower classes are the scum of the earth. That Azteca culture was absolutely the most appalling and blood-thirsty society on earth when the Spanish arrived. Contrary to the claims of leftists everywhere, the Spanish brought a vastly better way of life to the Aztec people, however cruel or greedy the Conquistadors may have been.

    • laura r

      dont need to convince me, ive been down here for decades on& off-& lived here full time. the americans/canadians worship these people. they are breathless w/wonderment, dish out $$ to even those who own 2 homes, 2 cars, restuarants. eventually the mexican breaks into their home, robs them. or does a home invasion, ties them up. the lying scamming part IS like gysies. there is a racial ladder in mex, but an american is considered bottom feeder. (not difficult to figure ot why). THIS americano is no sucker, they kind of know when they see me, or deal w/me. no amount of abuse will ever be enough for a liberal.

      • DV

        You LIVE in Mexico?

  • DV

    Yeah, ask Nicole Brown Simpson. Ohh wait a minute. We’ll obviously have to find another victim of domestic violence since she’s not available. By the way, her sister testified that Nicole told her that OJ raped her on their first date. Hmm, ya know, it’s not that I blame Nicole Brown Simpson for her own murder, it’s that when you know for an absolute fact that someone has been violent towards you, or is capable, you probably need to stay away from that person. Never, ever presume that someone else comes from the same culture you do.

  • tedh754

    Are members of the royal family going to have to be murdered before the media will admit they have imported a culture that is totally foreign and hostile to the host? Who the hell has to die?

  • DV

    They’ll also kill you in a bar fight or when they’ve been drinking. Usually with a knife.

    • laura r

      yes for sure. they also shoot each other, personal disputes are rampant. there are also nice mexicans, they agree w/us! they are the ones that should be in the US. unfortunatly their criminal neighbors are the ones who get in.

      • DV

        They have very close families by and large. If a Mexican man isn’t a drunk he’ll probably be the hardest working you can find. Still, what you’ve said is generally true. I lived in TX for awhile. I stayed away from them by and large. The lower classes are absolute scum. Sometimes you can recognize them by their drinking habits in which case, get away and stay away.

  • DV

    Not only that but the word is nonsensical.

  • DV

    It’s not going to happen in the UK. Ever. The Brits would have to elect a majority of the new right wing party to the Parliament. So not going to happen. Britain is finished.

    • Texas Patriot

      I would agree that it looks very bleak in Great Britain at the moment and, indeed, very much more bleak than at any time during WWII. But it’s not over yet.

  • DV

    That’s consistent with what dukestreet said.

  • DV

    Thank George Galloway and all his Muslims friends and wives.

  • DV

    Maybe.

  • DV

    Maybe British guys do treat girls as discardable. On the other hand, girls in all western cultures have been taught to devalue themselves; to sleep around at a young age; to disrespect their parents and to degrade themselves and their own bodies. That’s been going on since the so-called “sexual revolution,” or ever since the despicable pig, Hugh Hefner, misused the term “puritanical” to describe American society. The Puritans actually were the first western religious sect to insist on conjugal marriage. Until that time, most women married strictly for money. Hefner won that debate, and American society has suffered the consequences ever since. There were reasons why your priest, your minister, or your rabbi told you to save it for marriage ladies. And by the way, I’m not particularly religious.

  • DV

    The worst was MP, George Galloway.

  • London_Liz

    No, it’s 16 & hasn’t been lower, though there was an attempt to float the 15 balloon earlier this week but it was shot down by the Government & mostly everybody.else.

  • dukestreet

    “Here is a good moral. Do not have sexual relations with someone you would not marry.” Better yet, don’t have set until you are married. No pregnancy out of wedlock that way.

  • Kathy Thompson Ellis

    Regardless of whether the parents controlled her actions, there is no excuse for murder. This is not “what you get” if you don’t control your child. It is not their fault she was murdered. The blame lies solely on the ‘boyfriend’. Parental guidance and control is a completely different issue. For all we know, she was grounded and snuck out. For all we know, she was continually forbidden to see this boy or any other boy. A teenage girl that sees herself as ‘in love’ is apt to do anything with or without parent’s permission. “Her death was premeditated murder, plotted and committed by the boyfriend she was madly in love with.” ….. “she believed her teachers and politicians who told her that the new immigrants were just as English as she was and might even have superior cultural values.” ……”Laura and Ashtiaq rekindled their relationship but he insisted it must continue to be a secret. …………. I would say that this is what happens when a government forces political correctness down the throat of citizens to the point that the people begin to believe their lies and then wonder what went wrong when everything backfires on them. He took advantage of her, used her and murdered her.

    • laura r

      parents need to send the message that muslims=danger. if they start to say it when the children are young maybe it will sink in later.

      • Kathy Thompson Ellis

        unfortunately, our society is trying to push tolerance for muslim jihad and sharia law. If a parent believes those lies, why would they admonish their children to stay away from muslims? I agree parents should teach their children. Most parents are as confused as the kids any more about what is going on in the world. It is a “who or what do I believe?” situation. The solution and game changer is Jesus Christ. Believe Jesus. Believe in Him. Believe Who He is and what He did. Have faith in Him. Everything else flows from that faith even down to being able to discern truth.

  • helenp

    This murder was not about religion. It was about the honor culture brought from the ‘home’ countries. This culture predates Islam which was only founded in the 7th century.

  • Maxamillion Mansionhouse III

    Call it what the hell it is….racist.
    I’m sick of seeing the terms murder and honor killing.

    If this girl wasn’t white she wouldn’t be dead today.
    The mother called her “The dirty white bitch”.
    Muslims view white lives as below themselves.

    If the tables were turned the label racist would be all over this.

    It is absolutely a slap in the face to white people that the racist killing of a white girl is being called an hour killing.

    Imagine if the kkk killings of blacks were termed “future cultural protecting honor defense”.