Was Trayvon Martin’s Father a Gang Member?

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.


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Considering the ubiquity of gang signs even outside the ghetto and the rest of the hood signage, it may not mean all that much except that Trayvon Martin’s family background was not particularly conducive to not acting like a thug.

The Martin family attorney has accused Zimmerman of profiling Martin criminally, not racially. Maybe Zimmerman had good reason for doing it.

Over the last several months, much has been heard from Tracy Martin, the father of Trayvon Martin. On Monday, according to Good Morning America, Tracy Martin reportedly “cursed at a supporter of George Zimmerman.

Yesterday, right-leaning blogger Sundance of widely-read The Conservative Tree House released several photos of Tracy Martin, some of which date back to 2010.

One shows Martin posing with a crowd of people in which, according to the blog, a finger sign denoting Crips membership is visible. Another portrays him standing in a different crowd with a cityscape and raining dollar bills in the background.

In these photos, Martin himself is making some sort of hand sign. Other individuals photographed are doing the same. TCTH identified said signs as gang-related.

As plenty of black conservatives have said over the years, the nexus of failure begins with the family. Larry Elder has talked about this in detail recently.

  • UCSPanther

    This case is turning into a circus…

    Neither side sounds squeaky clean in this whole mess.

    • ziggy zoggy

      In what way shape or form is Zimmerman dirty?

      • darms

        He’s not at all dirty. He’s a regular guy, trying to improve his and other’s quality of life.

        Extraordinary men perform extraordinary work and improve life for all. Ordinary men contribute nothing. George is extraordinary.

        • Shona Carter

          3 sealed arrests from the past.

          “According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for
          domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison.”

          Not one, but 3…….but he will forever be squeaky clean in your eyes.

          • smarty jones

            Don’t forget sexually molesting his female relative for years, starting when she was 6. Yes, squeaky clean guy.

          • Kaden

            Better have some proof because Omara and West are very good lawyers and social media is being monitored.

          • MIKE

            smarty…. That accusation was proven to be a huge lie.

          • smarty jones

            I just googled to find more information on that, and the most recent result was from july 16 or 17th. What’s come to light since then? Can you include the link?

          • Michelle Kirkwood

            No,it isn’t—that’s just what YOU want to believe. Here is the cousin’s testimony here:

            http://mediatakeout.com/63898/mto-world-exclusive-zimmerman-is-about-to-catch-another-case-is-accused-of-molesting-a-six-year-old-girl.html

            Here’s another article on that subject, and how the cousin relates it to the Zimmerman case:

            http://rollingout.com/criminal-behavior/how-george-zimmerman-got-away-with-sexually-molesting-cousin-from-age-six-until-19/

          • Veritas__Aequitas

            I don’t look at the title of a book and claim to have read it. I suggest you do the same – once you peer your eyes above the gutter’s lip, you’ll be able to see clearly.

          • MIKE

            The domestic violence was a dual ex parte order, His ex GF filed an ex parte request to keep him out of his own home where her name was not on the lease. The judge placed the order on both of them not just GZ. The arrest for the assault for violence was just the arresting charge not the prosecutions charge. He was never charged with a felony. Fact check!!! He was charged with a misdemeanor assault with NO VIOLENCE and it was subsequently dismissed by the court. He was never charged with any kind of offense that included ANY KIND OF VIOLENCE you moron. Try having your facts in line before commenting and making yourself look really stupid. FACT NOT FICTION SHONA.

          • Shona Carter

            I guess you told me, Mike.

            I noticed you didn’t address the
            rape allegations. The man has numerous allegations against him from his
            past, and just as he’s never been charged for a felony…neither was
            Trayvon. The point is that both of them have very rocky pasts.

            The case is over and I was not there and neither were you.

            Neither of them look angelic at this point, so your argument is light. Thanks for your input!

          • The I

            Now explain how he was fired as security personnel for using excessive force on a female or why this clean cut guy was not a top candidate for a police officer position in Prince William County. Let’s stick to the facts please. Resisting and officer with violence and battery of a law enforcement officer were third degree felonies. The charges were waived when he entered an alcohol education program. You know that alcohol is the largest killer and most addictive drug in world wide, right?

          • Earl P. Holt III

            Nothing you state as fact was ever admissible in Zimmerman’s trial unless he had testified. What you say may be true: I don’t know, but I do know that these “facts” you allege were irrelevant in the context of Zimmerman’s guilt in this case.

            I also know only too well the inclination of the black community to generate wild rumors and accusations that would make an average 10 year-old white kid laugh, such as the allegations that “Fruitopia” drinks and “Church’s Fried Chicken” contain chemicals designed to render black males sterile.. (Judging from the profound number of illegitimate black births, this is a really difficult one to accept…)

            So, please pardon me if I fail to accept any “facts” that you allege as true.

      • Shona Carter

        How about the molestation accusations against him from his family members?

        Oh i forgot, only Trayvon’s dirty laundry can be used against him.

    • EddyJJ

      http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/

      George Zimmerman, Son of a Retired Judge, Has 3 Closed Arrests

      • darms

        congratulations?

    • peter_wexler

      Neither side may sound squeaky clean, but Trayvon Martin is dead, and Zimmerman, it seems, had a habit of following black people in the neighborhood. Treyvon Martin was not the first to be followed by George Zimmerman, but he was the first to be shot dead. Let’s make Trayvon the last person killed by George Zimmerman.

      • Guy Fromage

        George to Martin’s words at face value, when Martin then proceeded to make those words credible. George was facing death, and took the steps necessary to defend himself.

        Let’s not make Florida (or America) a place where racial politics trumps a man’s ability to defend himself from aggression.

        • darms

          You’re just a crazy axx cracker

          • Guy Fromage

            So, you’re a racist, in the Trayvon Martin vein, eh?

        • Shona Carter

          You honestly believe that Martin would have killed Zimmerman on his way home from the store that night?

        • Matthew

          Please inform me as to when George was ever faced with the possibility of death.

          • Guy Fromage

            Between the time Trayvon told George that he was going to kill him, and the moment George was forced to fire.

          • Matthew

            Well, if someone approaches you with a gun, are you going to simply stand on Death Row?

          • Guy Fromage

            In the context of this topic, I have no idea what that question is supposed to mean.

          • Matthew

            If George Zimmerman is following you and then decides to take it upon himself to pursue you after instructions from the police ordered otherwise, are you going to allow yourself to be in a position to get shot or are you going to attack him?

          • Guy Fromage

            If I know a person is armed, and I am capable of easily outrunning him, the last thing I am going to do is double back and force a confrontation.

            But that assumes, of course, that Trayvon knew George was armed, and there is no evidence of that, until the final seconds, anyway. If fact, it’s extremely unlikely that Trayvon would have doubled back, had he known.

          • MIKE

            Matthew, first of all 911 operators are not the police and cannot give an order. Secondly Zimmerman was already out of his truck and had walked over a block to find the address the operator asked him for on 3 separate occasions when he was told “we, don’t need you to do that”, There is not one stitch of true evidence that GZ followed TM after being told by the operator he didnt need to do that. The statements and testimony by Rachel that she heard GZ approach and ask Tm ‘what are you doing here’ and then the fight broke out is a huge lie and the jury didn’t buy it. You wold either if you knew that the police reports said about the headset she said Tm was wearing when the fight broke out. It was found in the right front pants pocket along with the button that GZ said he saw Tm wearing when he first called 911. So how did she hear a bump from his headset when it was in his pocket and he was not on the phone at the time of the fight. Facts not fiction Mathew. The only thing the jury believed from her were the words “creepyasscracker” that he said right before he took off running home with a 40 second head start before GZ got our of his truck to look for the address.. He never made it home like she said he did. He died 75 yards from home. He had just 100 yards to run. If he feared that creepy crack he should have ran home or called 911. Oh that’s right blacks don’t believe in calling the police because they are afraid they would be believed so they take mattes into their own hands, just as Treyvon did and it cost him his life.

          • Matthew

            Laugh Out Loud. I loathe discussion with you supremacists on this site, truly I do. First and foremost, please for all that is sacred and holy, SPELL CHECK IS YOUR FRIEND. Now, I do not even understand your point. The only thing I got out of this was Good ‘Ol George pursued Trayvon. Secondly, how can I trust you with anything when you cannot even simply READ. My name clearly has two letter “T’s” yet, much like the rest of this troubled essay you’ve so diligently fucked up, you failed to realize that as well. So yes Mike, the jury failed to be convinced. But again, I guess OJ is a freeman as well.

      • Conniption Fitz
    • jerry

      Keep focus homie, forget everything else, remember, this man killed this innocent boy, & was told to leave him alone. Done that sound like a circus to you?

  • OfficialPro

    The apple don’t fall too far from the tree, it would appear…

    • jerry

      So what are you saying?

      • Earl P. Holt III

        Well, Jerry, he’s saying that Trayvon learned to be a criminal and scofflaw from that sorry “father” of his, just like most black kids learn criminality from their baby-daddies and emulate them.

        I guess he didn’t have any crayons in order to successfully communicate with you…

        • John Davis

          your talking a District Deputy Grandmaster of a masonic jurisdiction you know nothing your a fool.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            Sure, John: I know only too well that the commitment of blacks to the ideals of the Masons is third only to their Patriotism and commitment to Rule of Law.

            A jack-ass (like you) in a $1,000 suit is still just a jack-ass, and de fack dat Tryavon baby-daddy be in de Masons don’ make no nevvah mine….. (Gotchem Charlie?)

          • John Davis

            1st all why am I a jackass 2nd Earl don’t worry I see a person like you one day falling into the trap thinking you can do or say what you want, remember what goes around comes around. Karma dude.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            PLEASE bring it ON (and stand close together for a “group” shot…)

            The taxidermists in Longview, TX are gonna have a heart-attack when they see what I bring in…!!!

          • John Davis

            Earl your not in my league buddy, were on two different levels trust and believe that.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            You don’t seem to do any better with apostrophes or punctuation than you do with prepositions. You won’t know what I’m talking about, but all the whites who read this are chuckling to themselves, and they’re NOT laughing WITH you…

          • El Cid

            No John, You are a Jackass because you were obviously born that way, and have felt as though you had no need to improve on that position, including how to express yourself in correct use of written and spoken ENGLIsh.Ghetto is as ghetto does, “Dude”. You are a semiiterate self-entitled ignoramus (google the word if your ghetto vocab. doesn’t stretch that far.)Goodnight, and goodbye.

        • The I

          Really? Such a simpleton remark. As if you have spent years in a black house hold? Have you? Oh I see, it’s like saying “these Assholes always get away.” Even though you don’t know if they just received a scholarship from MIT in chemistry or a scholarship in football from Georgia. The creepy dungeons of an archaic mind knows the answers.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            I did business with blacks for 30 years as an owner of rental property, and lived in what is euphemistically referred to as a “changing neighborhood” during those same 30 years.

            I know more about blacks and their sub-culture than just about any living white man, which is why I cut you people NO SLACK. I know you better than you know yourselves…

            ANY NIGRO who gets a scholarship to M.I.T. in chemistry is unequivocally, an “AFFIRMATIVE-ACTION” beneficiary.
            You people may not like stereotypes, but you use them ruthlessly, yourselves, and do so even when speaking candidly ABOUT yourselves…

          • The I

            “I know more about blacks and their sub-culture than just about any living white man, which is why I cut you people NO SLACK. I know you better than you know yourselves…”

            In that case, I went to more than 3 universities with a population of more than 90% white. That authorizes me to say, that is the fourth dumbest thing I have ever heard a human say. But I like God like people. They really tend to say things that put the “ridiculous” spot light on them. No man is a completely knowledgeable about themselves, let alone another person. But keep thinking that….God.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            I am always suspicious of blacks who recite their “credentials,” because I have found so very few to be accurate.

            Your grammar and use of punctuation indicate that if you REALLY WERE matriculating at all those institutions of “higher learning,” you were clearly an “affirmative-action” beneficiary, and no doubt majoring in Black Studies or communism.

            I, on the other hand, have a Ph.D. in Nigrology.

          • The I

            I once had a white man say he didn’t know there any intelligent black people. First, one has to know what intelligence is to identify it. You have strong characteristics similar to Zimmerman yourself . All that attracts you to Zimmerman is that he is a mistake prone, presumptuous, slow thinking character. That you can relate to. As for Affirmative Action, please talk to someone like Justice Thomas. You’re as lost in human nature and intellect as Columbus was lost in the Atlantic. But ignorance is bliss.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            Naturally, you don’t see Thurgood Marshall as an A-A beneficiary, even though he was an incompetent and supremely unethical for not recusing himself from all those Supreme Court cases involving the NAACP, where he had been General Counsel before his gig on the Court. That’s an example of what whites see as the oxymoron, “nigro ethics!”

            I LOVE Clarence Thomas and admire him greatly: It’s you racist black imbeciles on the left who do nothing but attack him! If you see him as an example of A-A, it’s only because you wouldn’t recognize honor and decency if it bit your ass!

            However, his intellect is an example of the principle of “The Exception Which Proves the Rule…” (Ditto Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams, neither of whom you can identify w/o resort to Wikipedia…)

            Your babbling about Zimmerman leaves me with the conclusion that you are not just obsessed, but are clinically insane…

            There’s no hope for your racist self…

          • Earl P. Holt III

            You keep obsessing on poor Zimmerman in your rambling, incoherent babblings. It makes you sound crazy…really!

          • The I

            Really? Finally, something you can adequately relate to. Now, would you like to visit a psychiatrist and tell him all about your wondrous gifts in knowing black people more than they know themselves? How is that? You don’t know how many hairs are on your right arm yet you know about people you have never met. You don’t know how you smell to other people and never will. As long as you are breathing from your own nostrils, you could never know exactly how anything smells to another person. But you see, you could never figure this out because you know a lot about what you don’t know.

          • Michelle Kirkwood

            No,,dear, black people who go to college have to work their asses off just like ANYBODY else that goes–what you said is SO stupid and point-black racist as hell, that i just have to laugh. And just because you lived in a black community for 30 years dosen’t make you the ultimate expert on black people—that’s just the black people YOU knew. They don’t represent ALL 38 million black people in this country—we are NOT all alike, like you white racists always seem to think. As a black person who has been to college, I had to work like hell and do all the homework like MOST students do to pass the classes and get good grades. And white people have always had “legacy preferences”,which exist to this day, in which a white person gets into college because a relative or parent sat on the college board back in the day or was a big benefactor to the school. I don’t see you complaining about THAT,are you now? You obviously haven’t been to college either, or you would already know this and stop whining about what the hell black people do or don’t do because it hasn’t got a damn thing to do with you. Shut up and go live your own life and stop hating black folks and get the hell over your whiny racist self.

          • 1ofdagals

            Earl (above) never mentioned hate, that came bubbling up from you. Anyone who goes to college should have been bought and paid for entry or earned that honor with top grades and not given to anyone cause of a color-code. I like any color, so long as it is conservative and pays it’s own way in this world….we all have our own agenda

  • jakespoon

    I always thought the “Crips” wore blue. Any way, I believe GZ will be found guilty,all the evidence to the contrary. Excuse me for being cynical about our institutions nowadays.

    • blastah

      Hi! 21 days later. Do you still fell GZ will be found guilty? lmao

      • jakespoon

        Do you think they’re through with Zimmerman? The judge,state attorney,eric holder and the justice dept. tried everything in the book and some things that weren’t to convict him(child abuse?) and they are not done yet. So, yes , they will find a way to make him pay.

        • blastah

          lol i will be revisiting your reply once the Feds make the announcement no longer are they pursuing a case against GM.

          • mike

            I will do the dame thing. The feds have had over a year to make such a charge. They wouldn’t step aside to let the State deal with it if they had him at the federal level.

          • suzyshopper

            No but I bet u if sharpton and Jackson have there way they will be pushing for a civil rights trial, and if that doesn’t work, I’ll be very surprised if trayvons parents , don’t file a wrongfull death suit, to further capitalize on their sons death, they already trademarked I am trayvon merchandise!

          • blastah

            Actually Zimmerman has a case against the parents. Since he won the trial he can bring a tort suit against them. Trayvon was a minor at the time he attacked Zimmerman. They did not supervise their son.

          • The I

            They can try it. Zimmerman says he was attacked. No one saw it. The bruises indicate there was a scuffle. Proving who started it would be tougher than finding a doughnut shaped grain of sand on a beach. People disengaging on the phone without saying “bye” or “later” to go fight in an unfamiliar town, no friends around and with an unfamiliar person is not going to be easy to understand.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            It couldn’t be any more difficult to understand than your rambling and incoherent babbling…

          • The I

            Intelligence would be rambling to you just like a foreign language. Should anyone really be surprised being that you are a person that openly claims to know other humans better than they know themselves? That’s the sort of talk that comes from Palm readers, diluted minds and drunks.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            I’m 50 I.Q. points smarter, I am more objective, and therefore able to recognize facts that evade the likes of you and those like you…

          • blastah

            not too bright, I see. He won the trial, which means court ruling was entered into his favor; he was defending himself. He will use that against the parents of Trayvon if he brings a suit against them.

          • The I

            Not in a civil case. The court ruling never proved that Martin attacked Zimmerman first. It proved Zimmerman had cause to use deadly force. Not the exact same stance Stay away from law. It appears it’s a “D” subject for you.

          • suzyshopper

            I hope he wins, but it will be small compensation, for the ruining of a mans reputation, and him having to watch, over his shoulder, everyday of his existence!

        • blastah

          Remember me, Jakespoon? just keeping my presence in sight and mind. Don’t want you to forget me as I will pay you a visit in the distant future. lmao

          • jakespoon

            Excuse me, did you just threaten me?

          • blastah

            no idiot. Im telling you I will visit you here in this thread and shove it in your face that the feds are not going to bring charges against Zimmerman, you dumb idiot.

          • jakespoon

            If that’s you in the photo, you could shove it in my face, anytime. As for being an idiot,my wife call me worse as a pet name.BTW you must have me confused with someone who is a martin supporter.

  • Adam

    They are not Crips. Crips are part of the Folk nation and would not be wearing red shirts (red represents Blood nation) The logo on the shirts and the necklace are Freemason symbols. Tracy Martin is a Freemason.

    • darms

      Freemasons don’t call people Mother Fxxxxr.

      • jerry

        George Washington was a mason, but he was a slave owner as well, so I don’t think all Masons nor people are perfect.

      • smarty jones

        If a Freemason had to endure the senseless killing of his teenage child, he probably would call people Mother Fxxxxr. Perhaps “some of Tracy’s anger” is related to said killing of his teenage child, and DOES NOT NECESSARILY mean that the “apple don’t [sic] fall too far from the tree.” I don’t know if you have children, much less have ever lost a child to violence, but any parent with an ounce of feeling inside them would be absolutely destroyed. Surely you can understand that much.

        • Veritas__Aequitas

          I’m a Freemason and I would never want to associate with any other Mason who called someone a MF. Never once did I see Tracy Martin shed a single tear. I saw he and Fulton file trademarks for “justice for trayvon” and other slogans, but never a single tear. It’s almost like he didn’t know or want to be around martin or he didn’t care about him. It’s odd, but then again, I come from a community of loving, caring parents, family, and friends not from a community where racial slurs are tossed around like someone saying hello and violence and drugs are an accepted way of life.

          • smarty jones

            Guess you never saw this image which was shown on every major news source [except perhaps Fox News.] The CNN Caption: “Martin’s father, Tracy Martin, cries on June 24 as he listens to the description of his son’s death.” It’s odd, I wonder how much you really looked for ‘a single tear’ that you emphatically insist never happened. And I wonder if seeing those tears would have kept you from jumping to all your negative conclusions about Trayvon and his family. I hope you and your loving community are never victimized by violence — and then blamed by complete strangers for the violence committed against them. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.

          • Veritas__Aequitas

            Actually, I saw that live when it happened. Martin is trying to keep from laughing as Rachel Jenteal uses the racist term “creepy a&& cracker”. Don’t even try to say it was anything different – as B37 even mentioned it in her interview as a

          • Ifonlyuknew

            Just b/c a person doesn’t shed tears, Does not mean the LUV for the child is not there. Ppl show emotions n different ways, & stronger than others… I’m a very sensitive & emotional person, I can drop a tear, n a second.

          • The I

            Can people walk freely to the store in your neighborhood? If they can, that’s a rather nice community.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            Certainly, they can walk freely to the store, but when they start “casing the neighborhood,” decent people take offense, especially when they’ve been hit multiple times.

            Most whites are experiencing a profound dose of “negro fatigue.”

          • The I

            Are whites fatigued easily? It’s apparent they had “white” fatigue when their ancestors left Europe.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            We had “Papist” fatigue, or “Catholic” fatigue: That’s why most of our ancestors left Europe…

          • Veritas__Aequitas

            Yes everyone can freely walk to the store – because in my neighborhood, people don’t walk up to someone and cold-cock them – we say things like “hello Bob, nice day” or “hi Mrs. Smith, may I carry your groceries for you?”. We don’t mix Robitussin with sugary soft drinks and drink them with a mouthful of sugary candy in order to get “high”, we walk to church, we roll other’s windows up if it begins to rain, we don’t lock our doors at night or worry about having our home burglarized while we’re at work. So we all have similar morals and values and that’s how we all seem to get along. Where do you live? some slum section 8 housing? You should start a neighborhood watch program.

        • darms

          Well here’s what I know as fact. My mother and father didn’t raise me to attack people and in fact no one I associate with have ever accepted their child attacking people. You see, in the white world I come from, people are treated with dignity and respect. It is an odd occurrence for anything otherwise and when it happens, the people involved are ostracized from the white community unlike embracing them and making sorry excuses for their unacceptable behavior.

    • Scott74

      Wrong, the red and blue shirt identifiers was dropped by the gangs years ago because it made them too easy to identify by police.

    • Gerald Koplitz

      just because he has that shirt on doesn’t make him a mason, I know people wearing Yale jackets that went to duke,

  • Guy Fromage

    An interesting screen shot from the website newsone.com, wherein the tempest in a teapot of George’s attorney, enjoying ice cream with his daughters, is “discussed.”

    • Kaden

      Don West’ daughter can say what ever she wants on social media just like everyone else. Who cares if it bothers you if someone says something you don’t like better get off you computer and throw it away.

      • Guy Fromage

        I think you may have misinterpreted my intentions, when I posted this screenshot. I think Efrain Gonzalez’s post was a perfectly reasonable call for rationality. The contemptible identity politics which followed, was my reason for posting this.

  • Harry Black

    Another example of Greenfield “journalism.” One prejudiced source spews misinformation and Greenfield repeats it. Note also the pretension to expertise regarding “hood signs,” etc.

    • Guy Fromage

      Where is the error in the characterization of the hand signs being displayed?

  • Conniption Fitz

    The red shirts have a Masonic emblem.

    However, some of Tracy’s anger (calling a Zimmerman family member a MFK-er on day one of the trial) could have rubbed off on Trayvon.

    The ‘stepmother’ (who is not married to the father, Tracy) claims to have raised Trayvon since he was three and said the mother was not in the picture until recently. How recently?
    The narrative created by Crump and company and the prosecution witnesses does not match reality and the truth about the people, the age, character, family life of Trayvon and the events of Feb. 26, 2012. Evidence has been falsified and the press used to obscure justice and create prejudice.
    Crump has violated numerous ethics and rules of the FL code. He should be disbarred.

    • The I

      Ok, you just slapped one on freedom of speech.But let’s not confuse freedom of speech with smart speech because they rarely blend. So calling someone a MF in court is about as bright as……..seeing some one the first time and never speaking to them and thinking they are part of a collective group of assholes. All the dot connecting does not equal to a confrontation on Feb. 26, 2012. I’ve been scouring the internet looking for another random case where people unknown to each other and nothing causing agitation and they proceeded to fight. Nothing found yet. I hope the lesson people learn is always carry a micro cassette recorder. Often what people claim they said when recorded will not match up with what they actually said.

  • Conniption Fitz

    Here is a helpful review of the case and the attempt to pervert justice by the Martin Lawyers, Crump and Parks and their media accomplices: http://frontpagemag.com/2012/ben-cohen/inconvenient-truths-about-the-trayvon-martin-shooting/

  • EddyJJ

    LOOK AT HIS SHIRT YOU RETARDS! HE’S A MASON. I HATE DUMB PEOPLE

    • Guy Fromage

      So, he’s throwing Masonic signs, then?

      • EddyJJ

        Masons aren’t gangs though. Stop getting things twisted!

        • Guy Fromage

          Who are you responding to? Who said the Masons were a gang?

          • jerry

            You asked about the signs and they have hand gestures.

          • Guy Fromage

            Yes, Masons do. So I ask again, are the hand signs in the picture Masonic?

    • darms

      he’s a black mason’s and doesn’t hold the same morals and values as a Free-mason. black mason’s are more akin to a gang, and has actual gang members. I have also seen a black-mason burial ceremony where the black-masons cut-off a finger of the deceased. What they did with it, I don’t know. You should go hang out at a black-mason lodge and see how many non blacks are members.

      The difference between masons is similar to that of a frog and the sun.

      • jerry

        Why’d you say black mason, he’s just a mason, there are plenty lodges that are majority black, but have other races. As for the finger thing, stop smoking.

        • darms

          black masons (prince hall) and an actual masons share as much in common as a frog and the sun

      • John Davis

        dude stop talking about things you know nothing about I doubt Gorge Hoover in Charlotte, NC who is black and a freemason would not like being refered to as a gang member niether would my lodge brother Damien Green or Deputy Sheriff Knox or Shaquil O’neal stop talking about stuff you know nothing about.

        • John Davis

          George Hoover is a Circut Court Judge

        • Veritas__Aequitas

          I watched a black-mason funeral where the black masons cut off the finger of the deceased. John, can you explain this event? It occurred 11 August 1997 at Section 63, Arlington National Cemetery about 1100. Also explain who Prince Hall and his affiliation with the Grand Lodge of England.

          • John Davis

            well I have been apart of many masonic funerals, have officiated this as far as masonic rights and this has never been done, now briefly on Prince Hall he was a free black man who who fought n the revolutionary war he urged slaves and other free balcks to fight on side of the colonist. Prince Hall and 15 other free blacks were intiated in the Grand Lodge of Ireland they were limited in what the could do under Grand Lodge of Ireland so they petitioned the Grand Loage of England and the were granted a charte African lodge no.1 later it was renamed African lodge # 459 this charter allowed them to organize other lodges Prince Hall masonry was established he was the 1st Grand Master. Now do not be confused not all black masons are Prince Hall I for one amd scottish rite just as all white masons are not the same you have some York Rite and some scottish rite. Brother Tracy Martin fo instance is an internationa mason.

          • Veritas__Aequitas

            Thanks John, I am curious as to why these gloved and apron wearing Masons conducted such a ritual. Could you please ask your Grand Lodge’s committee on history. Thank you.

          • Veritas__Aequitas

            John, I guess you’ve not been to a Black Masonic funeral – thanks anyway.

        • darms

          John Davis ~ really? did I say “a gang” or more akin to a gang? Are you stu pid?

    • Kaden

      Retards is a word on the order of the N word. After this trial there will be NO DOUBLE standard for blacks and we will expect you to act like adults and not call racist and bias names at others.

  • Marina

    What does Tracy Martin’s activities have to do with a NW profiling his son as an F’N azzhole punk who always gets away have to do with this case? Tracy Martin was not there when GZ began to profile and follow Treyvon. Treyvon was just walking home not committing any crimes.

    • Guy Fromage

      It may help us to understand why Trayvon Martin was a F’N azzhole punk.

    • suzyshopper

      Do you know anything about what a neighborhood watch person does, u watch and report suspicious behavior, and that’s exactly what u do, the dispatcher asked George where he was, so he got out of the vehicle to check the street name,I’ve been living in the same community for going on 10 yrs , if i was outside walking in the dark and someone asked me , where I was,I’d have had too locate a name sign too.

      • Michelle Kirkwood

        George Zimmerman had lived in that community for 3 years—the place only has THREE main streets (look it up on a map online.) So why did he have to even get out of his car to find a street name he should have already known, when he could have just as easily drove to a stop sign and checked it? Another thing—-look up the Florida Neighborhood Watch Rules—they state that members are NOT supposed to even be armed because they are NOT the police–they also are NOT to follow and direct confront anyone that looks suspicious, because that’s the police’s job. And these rules were put together by Florida sheriffs,BTW. So Zimmerman didn’t even follow the rules or even use common sense in this case, because he wanted to act like a cop so damn bad since he had a gun. And if you’re been living in a community more than 3 years, you ought to know all thee street names in your area to begin with.

        I know what neighborhood watch members do (my parents belonged to one years ago) they are supposed to observe and report–they are not a substitute for the actual police. Unfortunately, Zimmerman seemed to have taken being an NW member as an excuse to justify acting like the punk bully his past shows that he really is—there’s an article in which there were complaints about him harassing people in the community while patrolling, so they didn’t all love him to death like the media wanted to make you think.

  • TaterSalad

    These thugs don’t look the any of the Mason friends that I hang with and their finger signs are NOT used with FreeMasonry…………period!

    • John Davis

      Dude you know nothing Im a 32nd degree mason and a worshipful master of my Lodge don’t talk about anything you don’t know sir.

      • Kaden

        John Davis Are you saying gang signs are used in the Masons then?

        • John Davis

          those are not gang sings but signs are part of masonry I can tell a mason by many signs white or black they are the same universal but because you do not know the many how can make assumption the emblem on the shirt is that of freemasons period we all know it many and symbolism. They are not gang signs. there was an assumption made there if you looked at the emblem on the shirt non masons no that emblem you may not understand the meaning, Brother Tracy Martin was District Deputy Grandmaster at one time, you cannot be a gang member/ criminal and hold that title.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            Your grammar is so terrible, I’m beginning too think that the second grade was the worst four years of your life…

            And, what have you got against prepositions? (Better ask some white man what dat bees…)

          • John Davis

            it was do to the device I was posting on my grammar is excellent, I work for a one of the outstanding financial institutions in America, I am actually a Vice President for that instittution. Sorry that your upset that you want to feel superior to me but you know in every way your not, as I stated Earl P. Holt karma.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            You are a pathological liar, just like the vast majority of your species.

            Better get a white man to check your spelling and grammar, Rufus, because they are both horrific. (Btw, “institution has only three “t”s in it, not four…)

          • John Davis

            How am I a liar? Earl P Holt continue to live your pathetic life.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            Apparently there were no literacy requirements for janitors at that bank where you were hired to fulfill their quota for black, mentally-challenged ex-cons…

          • John Davis

            Once again I’m a Vice President not a janitor. Mentally challenged no. I have a great life, sorry yours sucks.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            John, this is going to come as a surprise to you, but classy people do not talk about what they have. Of course, you don’t have an iota of class, so this probably wouldn’t interest YOU…

            I still think Tracy Martin and his “homies” have somehow subverted the intent and purposes of Masonry — just as they subvert everything else — and that gang signs and all that posing are alien to white Masons, who are probably quite serious and sincere about their vows…

          • John Davis

            I like you Earl even though your racist, I’m going to say this one of the mottos of masonry is we say we make good man better. Now there were questionable things that Trayvon Martin has done as a 17 year old youth, now your in Texas where you have a 20 year old Johnny Manziel, now he has been arrested, as a 20 year old he continues to do things such as underage drinking, lying to a law enforcement officer, so it must be bad parenting there too right. Are you going to speak out against Johnny football.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            John, we’re TCU fans here: I have no problem with “Johnny Football” or any other hyper-privileged young athlete experiencing the full consequences of his behavior.
            However, I do not believe Manziel has launched himself into a career of crime, whereas, it is clear to me that Trayvon Martin was WELL on his way.

            Btw, I prefer “realist,” but couldn’t care less about what labels complete strangers place on me…

          • John Davis

            but he has under age drinking, he has went to jail, he post on twitter and brags about it, you can look at his arrest photon online. Now you had an African American quaterback there RG3 no trouble with the law. Johnny Football youthful fun, he was arrested for fighting, lied to the police dude.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            What IS your point? Let me hazard a guess:

            You are suggesting that Manziel could, potentially, have been shot by someone he got in a fight with when engaged in underage drinking, if the guy felt sufficiently threatened and was packing heat? And the assailant COULD have been a black guy? Is that the point?

            If so, my reaction would have been that it was tragic for his family and tragic for A & M, but I would never have assaulted innocent black strangers over it, I would never have rioted over it, I would never have misstated the facts of the case to engage in race-hustling, I would never have demanded that the Yankee Government re-try the black guy on civil rights “violations,” and I would make myself a mental note to be courteous to everyone until they demonstrate that they don’t deserve such consideration.

            I think that’s the way MOST WHITE PEOPLE would see your hypothetical…

          • Michelle Kirkwood

            Thing is, you’re not most white people,and you don’t speak for or represent them, Earl—so don’t pretend that you do.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            Hey brain-doctor, I said “I think that’s the way…”

            Your type hasn’t taken over the nation, yet — and turned it into another Detroit — so I am still entitled to my opinion, even if you fail to recognize it as an opinion because you are too far to the left on the Bell Curve (and the political spectrum…)

            Never claimed I represent anyone. If this is too complicated for you, you had best turn to crayons…

          • Michelle Kirkwood

            Go screw yourself with your racist behind,Holt.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            May you spend the rest of your life blaming “whitey” for all your problems, may you remain miserable and angry and violent, and may you NEVER look within for the causes of all the malignancies in the black community.

          • Michelle Kirkwood

            I never said ONE damn thing about blaming Whitey for anything—you certainly were quick to bring THAT up when I called you out on your stupid,ignorant uncalled-for racist comments. Deal with it and take it like a white man—ha ha ha ha ha! Like most of you stupid racists, it just pisses you off to think that a black person has accomplished something that you haven’t. How boring ,predictable and typical of you (yawn). blah,blah,blah.

          • Michelle Kirkwood

            I never said ONE damn thing about blaming whitey for shit—BIG stupid racist assumption on your part, which has NOTHING do to with the subject being discussed—way to deflect from the real issue.

        • Earl P. Holt III

          He’s dodged that question twice, the phony lying braggart…

  • Bibikimmers

    Trayvon is now in the care of Jesus and even if his family should lose this case, he is being well taken care of, it’s Zimmerman that will live in hell for the rest of his life knowing he got away with cold blooded murder, if in fact they let him off the hook, Eh…

    • jerry

      No doubt, if I were him, I would probably just want to go to jail, because he’s going to have more hell walking these streets. I think he better just move to another country for real.

      • NikVa

        Seeing all the threats made against him, he’s got plenty of taped evidence against some of the bigmouths,even in the government, screwing with his civil rights.

  • jerry

    People, you can’t always judge people because they way they dress. All blacks in a picture that hold up a sign don’t mean u a gang member. These guys are masons

  • Isabel Ciprian

    don’t understand why are we judging this man? the reality is that his son was killed with no justification!

    • NikVa

      Stupid people like you making unsupported clims. The (child) was not blocked from going to his parents home, he intended to engage in a fight, which appears he started. He wasn’t just happy with bopping GZ in the nose, he went for more, and got it!

      • Isabel Ciprian

        The biggest irony is that George Zimmerman will never be able to go out in public without a hoodie ever again. Someday he will have to answer to a higher authority he’s just prolonging the inevitable. Treyvon is resting in peace, George Zimmerman will never have a goodnight rest. At the end is not about just breathing to feel alive it is also about the type of life you will live. Good luck Georgie cause from now on you need it!

        • NikVa

          The irony is: Blacks don’t want to be considered threats or profiled yet, the comment the friend made (through translation) was what a white ass cracker is. She said a security guard,watchman… So TM had an idea already of what GZ was doing before he encountered him. Plus he was also mentioned he might of been a gay (stalker). So he did his own profiling where instead he should have just gone home.

          So all of these threats are supposed to be rationalized as the emotional reaction to the verdict. The problem is, these same threats were lodged before there even was a trial. One that even a Grand Jury didn’t recommend and which solely relied on demonizing GZ as an out of control cop wanna be As well as withhold evidence from the defense. Well you got your show trial and you’re still not happy and want blood. Look at how many innocent people have been assaulted as a result of this faux outrage. It will all turn back on you for trying to make something out of nothing that more and more people are seeing just wasn’t there.

          • Michelle Kirkwood

            Martin WAS going home when Zimmerman was following him. Once again, he didn’t know who the hell this dude was, or what the hell he wanted. If I see a strange person starts following me around near dark, the first thing I’m gonna assume is that this person either wants to rob me or hurt me,flat out! Obviously that’s what Martin, like most people would,assumed too—his friend Rachel said he told her that he dodged in another direction to try and get away from Zimmerman, than she heard him say, “Get off,get off.” Why would you say something like that unless someone was in fact, jumping on you? So, obviously Zimmerman tackled him and started the fight which led to Martin’s death, sadly, in an area where he should have been safe in the first place, which is the sad and ironic part about it.

            Oh, BTW, the word “cracker” from what I know, has different meanings, apparently, but I’ve always understood it to be a derogatory slang term for a racist white Southerner in particular (especially those from Georgia.) That’s what Martin meant–I know because I’ve heard it enough times to know exactly what he meant.

        • suzyshopper

          I dout very much if trayvon is resting in peace , I don’t think wannabe thugs who beat ppl up and use drugs and watch porno are somehow gonna make it too heaven !!!

      • Michelle Kirkwood

        How the hell do you know what Martin intended to do? He was going when he saw this strange man following him, and justifiably got scared because he didn’t know who this dude was, or whether he was trying to rob him or what! If stupid-ass Georgie boy hadn’t decided that he was going to act like a cop just because he had a gun. that whole incident would NEVER have happened. Sorry, but if I see a stranger following me at near night for NO reason, hell,yeah, I’m gonna be scared, because I don’t know what the fuck that person is going to do to me! And if that person runs up and jumps ON me, you damn right I’m gonna start fighting to defend myself! Funny how none of you pro-Zimmerman nuts ever want to considered how Martin felt in that situation, other than “Oh, he looked like a thug, so he deserved it.” Mind you, at least 20% of the people in that gated community ARE black. Just because there were break-ins in that area didn’t give Georgie boy the damn right to run and jump on ANY black male he around there,because,once again,he’s NOT a policeman! And since there ARE black people living there, seeing a black person should NOT have been that strange or unusual to Georgie boy. to see a black person there at all. He’s just a racist pig who’s gotten away all his life with being racist—all the good deeds he supposedly did teaching black kids and all that dosen’t that he wasn’t a racist—you can be a racist and still do all that—no big surprise there for black folks, but apparently white folks can even conceive of something like that, but that’s human nature for you.

  • poetcomic1

    Trayvon’s ‘parents’ (?) are too stricken with grief, according to their lawyers, to think about the civil suit against Zimmerman (yum yum eat ‘em up!) Whatever else you say about his ‘parents’ he will always be their PRECIOUS BOY – they already got ONE MILLION DOLLARS from the condo homeowner’s assocation and that’s just for starters. Precious boy indeed $$$$$.

    • Kaden

      The parents have already sued and settled with the home owner’s association of Twin Trees. The first thing their “family” lawyer probably said was I will call Jesse and the second civil suit( he is a civil suit lawyer!) ) and the third trademark your child’s picture and some slogan which was done last year before the trial so they could make some money. They were not in court for the verdict because they were on the way back to Miami to “go to church” and if you believe that you are very naive. As long as adult black men glamorize criminal life young black men will emulate.That is the sad take away here.

      • Michelle Kirkwood

        @Kaden

        make some money, my ass—most of the parents’ settlement from the suit went to pay their legal bills, which weren’t cheap–do the research.

        • Earl P. Holt III

          Once again you demonstrate what an idiot you are: The attorney would almost certainly have taken the case as a contingency, and ended up with approximately one/third of the settlement plus costs, leaving the parents to fight over approximately 2/3 of it…

    • suzyshopper

      Not only that after trayvon was shot and ppl were wearing hoodies saying I’m trayvon, his mother went out patented the saying, talk about making money on the dead!!

      • Earl P. Holt III

        I can’t wait until Trayvon’s mother and the father’s girlfriend start fighting over Trayvon’s “blood money.”

        That will put their opposition to “Stand Your Ground” to the ultimate test…

  • klm1279

    Do you honestly think treyvon is in heaven? Does one get to heaven simply by existing and then dying? He was a thief…possession of twenty pieces of woman’s jewelry and “break in” tool, while being in a restricted area of school, is why he was suspended….not just pot residue in a bag. There were references on his twitter account about him taking a swing at the bus driver, about his homie needing to talk to him about buying weed, and deleted messages about a gun transaction. Even with all this, I’m sure he was a very respectful young man who modeled his life after Jesus. I’m sorry but just because he is killed (while committing assult and battery) it doesn’t mean he is going to heaven. I’d put my money on him sitting in a pot with the devil sticking him with a pitchfork right about now.

    • suzyshopper

      Well I guess I don’t need too add anything too that !!!!

      • Michelle Kirkwood

        NO,you don’t because that little rant was silly as hell,anyway.

    • Michelle Kirkwood

      There was never ANY proof of whether Martin actually stole that jewelry–that’s just speculation on your part–and on the part of the people who wrote those article claiming that he did. And since when is a screwdriver considered a “burglary” tool? Especially when you never even saw the owner use it for such a purpose? Teens talk s*** on Twitter and past (sometimes fake) Facebook all the time—do you take everything posted on there literally? Bottom line, he never had a criminal record, unlike Zimmerman, who has a record of instigating violent incidents going back a decade, but funny how you pro-Zimmerman nuts NEVER bring THAT up–wonder why. He’s wasn’t exactly a fine,upstanding citizen either–and he was he one committing assault and battery when he jumped on Martin, who did not know who the hell this strange man following him was,or what he wanted. I don’t believe his account of what happened because when you think about it, it just dosen’t make sense—the contradiction in his story–look them up. Here’s what his cousin (the one who claims he molested her for years) said about Zimmerman, especially about him and his family being racist as hell, and that he probably started the fight bwt him and Martin because that’s how he is:

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/16/george-zimmerman_n_1676729.html

      And here’s his criminal record of violent incidents, but people always seem to want to play that down–just because the charges got dropped dosen’t mean he didn’t do anything:

      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-lost-job-party-security-guard-aggressive-ex-co-worker-article-1.1053223

      http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-21/news/os-george-zimmerman-domestic-violence-20120321_1_petitions-documents-injunctions

      I’m tired of this demonizing of Martin—-sorry,but REAL thugs steal, rob and sometimes kill people. Getting into fights in school,getting suspended and smoking weed does NOT make you a thug. If that’s the case,which it isn’t, most teenagers would be called so-called “thugs”, by your standards. Martin wasn’t any different from a lot of teens having issues while growing up—you also never hear that he was looking forward to going to college, saved his dad from a fire once, and that he looked after his grandpa—but nobody wants to hear that—according to most white people,he just HAD to be a thug because he was a young black boy wearing a hoodie. I’ve worn a hoodie at one time mainly during winter because it kept me warm, not because I wanted to be a “thug”–yeah,right. Also Martin was wearing his hoodie because it had started raining–plus he had only been at this gated community for a week—he was staying with his father there, and was still learning how to get around the place—that’s probably what he was doing when Zimmerman claimed he was looking in windows and all that. BTW, that same gated community is 20% black—how come it never occurred to Georgie boy that Martin was staying there? Just because they had a series of break-ins there didn’t justify having an open-season on every black person Georgie boy saw and didn’t know! Here’s what the real Martin was like,according to people who actually knew him,not some faceless conservative racists bending over backwards and frontwards to prove he was a “thug”:

      http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/30/us/trayvon-martin-profile

      Also, here’s how Zimmerman (the real thug) possibly gotten such good legal action for someone who was crying broke last year:

      http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0714/Trayvon-Martin-case-s-mystery-man-George-Zimmerman-s-cop-connection

      And who are you to decide who’s going to heaven and who isn’t? Nobody’s perfect, not even the most devout Christian,and we all make mistakes. I would also say that everyone who claims they’re going to heaven might not get there–someone either told me that once, or I read it somewhere, but that’s not up to me either. Anyway, Zimmerman’s still guilty, as far as I’m concerned. He’s not the first person who got off for a crime, and, unfortunately he won’t be the last.

  • klm1279

    He will be fine….all talk

  • Admiel Yiqqahah Chokmah

    I don’t care If His father Was An EX Gang Member or Not That Does Not Give Zimmerman The Right To Shoot A Unarmed Teenager he A grown And If he Was Trying Fight HIm and Got Beat Up that’s His Own Fault doesn’t give the right to Murder Him……So you to tell me I live In a Neighborhood that Most Would Call the Ghetto But Im safe I can Walk Up and The Block at Whatever Time and Not have A problem But let say That I See a White Teenger With A Bold Head a Hoody With some Black Boots on I think he is a Racist Skinhead Nazi KKK member in My Neighborhood….Since IM a Rightful Gun Owner then I have The Right TO shoot him dead Unarmed With a Skittles and Juice In His hand Because I feel Threated….No its Not right and I would be arrested On the Spot because Im a Black man the Just Killed a white boy….They had to Protest Just To get Him Arrested…….There is NO Justice in the God Forsaken Land of Any People of a Different Skin Tone Then Pale…………..NO Justice For The Native Indians(Hebrews)They Slaughtered and Took There Land and renamed it and there is no Justice For The Black Hebrew Slaves us So called Black in America are The True Jews that another thing they Lied To us About………….. They Raped ,Killed, Hung Forced my people to Build this Country and Still get No respect….But we Get Look at As Crazy,Evil, Drug Dealers, Thugs …Please The Real Murders, Rapist, Thugs Where Your American Forefathers, and your White Children That Shoot Up Kids Schools and Movie Theaters, that enslave whole Civilazations, Slaughter Innocent people Take There land To Build there Own Capital state Of a Corporation…….. Thats Why The Lord said………..Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord……Deuteronomy 32:35 It is mine to avenge; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip; their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them.”,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,And This Is For Your Armies and Military that think The can Keep Killing The Most High People the Hebrew Israelites(Black So called Americans, and the Ishmaelites (Arabians) Abrahams Offspring they Must Didn’t Read This Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army………………All prasies to Ahayah Aher Ahayah God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob…..The Wrath of The Most High is

    Coming NO man on earth can Duck his Judgment….

  • peter fee

    the real tragedy here is that none of us really know what took place. It is all speculation and banter. To be honest the prosecution took the wrong tact and tried to get Zimmerman on second degree murder. If they tried him for involuntary manslaughter they may have had a shot. But without a credibly eyewitness who saw how the altercation started, or a videotape, the case was doomed from the beginning. Although anytime a kids life is lost it is something that elicits very strong emotions from any parent including myself, that doesn’t mean we think how we feel. I’d rather live in a country where 20 guilty people go free than one innocent person loses their life .And without proof that Zimmerman could have acted differently that’s compelling, you can’t convict him on that charge.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    George Zimmerman is NOT responsible for the death of Trayvon Martin:

    The responsibiliity rests with: #1 Trayvon Martin, himself; #2 Tracy Martin; and #3, that whole subculture of thuggish sewer-rats and their scofflaw approach to life…

    • Matthew

      You’re funny Earl and for that matter, anyone who believes that justice was served and that a teenager’s life was taken righteously. It pains me to see Southern “folks” still unable to accept or rather promote racial equality, as I assume you all were able to choose the colour of your skin or the lifestyle you were born into correct? Oh.

      GZ is the son of a retired judge and has 3 closed cases, all 3 serious cases. Trayvon was simply there for a weekend to see his father’s fiancee. However, I could provide you facts until my fingers go numb from typing but I cannot change a weak man’s perception; it’s up to you to become open-minded and informed but until then, continue your ranting assumptions my good fellow. As it’s been said before, “the fruit does not fall far from the tree” so I’m sure you’re only acting as you were taught.

      • Earl P. Holt III

        A very racist, but occasionally insightful black man on the radio station I worked in the 1990s once remarked that, “If you want to hide information from a black man, just put it in a book or a newspaper.” (His name was Onion Horton.)

        This principle obviously applies to you: Trayvon Martin had multiple discipline problems at the various schools he attended, and one incident involved his possession of ten pieces of female jewelry and “burglary tools,” for which he could not give a satisfactory accounting.

        Only in the deranged minds of racial apologists and enablers could his behavior the night he died be interpreted as anything other than his “casing the joint.” He was not collecting for the Red Cross, he was looking to do a smash and grab, or whatever his modus operandi was. (Whites KNOW who commits the VAST majority of crimes in this country.)

        The fact that his father and the father’s girlfriend never had any interest in the whereabouts of Trayvon — when he would disappear for an hour or two — speaks volumes about Trayvon’s family life and the subculture that spawned him.

        As to how I became a race realist: I’ve been shot at 21 times by “Africanus Criminalis.” I have never had the opportunity to return fire, but if ever I do, there will only be one of us standing and able to give a police report.

        I know you and your “type” better than you know yourselves…

        • Matthew

          My greatest apologies, how could I forget how much greatness occurred within the hands of your good friend Zimmerman. Between his alleged incidents with police officers (both violent and non-violent) which are 3rd-degree crimes and even his domestic violence charges from his ex-fiance (make note of the “ex” part), I see that Trayvon must have been the aggressive one in this incident of course, how foolish of me. It even surprises me to see how much good will you wish upon “GZ” despite his half Hispanic descent. As we all know, all minorities are the same correct? Or did his last name throw you off a bit?

          Now, as far as principles are concerned and you knowing my “type”, it’s rather awkward for you (yet again) to be creating false assumptions seeing as I am a Caucasian male, very happy with my own successes in my youthful life. With that said, that eliminates about what, 30% of what your argument is based upon? Racial differences, “my type”, silly naive black “jokes” for lack of a better appropriate term good sir? Laugh out loud, how right you are though. In addition, you probably wouldn’t be getting “shot at” 21 times if you were not such a bigot old lad, typing so boldly behind that computer screen of yours. Seeing as history has a way of repeating itself, you will probably continue to get “shot at” by a race you consider yourself superior to. Reap what you sew old sport.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            Yes, but this time I will be adequately armed, and I’m a verrrrry good shot…

          • mike

            Mathew you speak of the ex parte order. I guess you didn’t know that his ex GF had previously been to jail on a assault charge concerning a previous BF. Not just that the judge order dual ex parte orders on both of them. Fact not fiction. The reason the judge issued the ex parte order on the ex GF is because she tried to get him kicked out of his own home where his name was on the lease not his GF’s name. She kept coming back to the house trying to get in the residence that din’t belong to her. Fact not fiction. Know your facts before spouting off thus making yourself look idiotic..

          • Matthew

            Yes, I am the idiotic soul while your inability to spell continues to flourish. Now, I’m glad you’ve dispelled my fictional statements but yet, I’m sure your simpleton self simply negated or skimmed over his other two charges in his quarrels with officers. Are you still researching those assaults or did those not happen? I’m thoroughly confused for you. I feel horrible for you because you’re so quick to jump for someone you have never met nor will ever meet. I’m honestly speaking for those who fear speaking out because I can see more people on this site want to say something to you “internet bullies” but don’t know how to say what they feel. You’ve proven absolutely nothing but that you’re ability to use the internet (again, please bookmark dictionary.com or something) but you’re missing several other charges. Go ahead, I will await your responses to my week old posts with your weak posts.

      • Veritas__Aequitas

        And what does any of your post have to do with Martin attacking Zimmerman?

        • Matthew

          Oh man, how could I forget that you were that at the scene of the crime. My my, I’m so forgetful. Please spare me sir as neither was my previously reply directed towards you nor do you have anything to offer. A rebuttal was in place so I provided just that. I’m sure you believe me to be of African-American descent as well huh? Sorry, such is not the case so please, find yourself another direction and/or post.

          • Veritas__Aequitas

            Sorry, I go off the evidence as presented in the trial. If you didn’t know, the jury weighed all the evidence and found George Zimmerman not guilty of 2nd Murder or Manslaughter. I, like Zimmerman, don’t give a rat’s a$$ if you are black or green so you’re wasting your time.

            Next

          • Veritas__Aequitas

            Matthew – OJ sits in prison at this very moment – his natural violent tendencies never left. Try reading a whole newspaper sometime.

            And with Zimmerman are you referring to the time he stepped in to protect a weak person getting his a$$ kicked by an off duty cop? How about the time he protested the Sanford PD beating the homeless black guy?

            Matthew, do you also claim to know an author’s story after reading just a title?

            Why can’t you realize that Martin broke the law when he attacked Zimmerman and as we all know; when you break the law and attack someone, well – we saw what happened – you go free.

            Everything to you – seems to revolve around race – you’re a bigoted, prejudiced, racist unable to divide right from wrong, or fact from fiction. You only see blacks under the heels of the whites and you use that as a crutch to explain your failure in life.

            Continue to spew your racist vomit from your cum dumpster. It will never take you farther than section 8 housing.

        • CharlaS

          I’m a Southern girl who dated a Yankee from New Jersey for a while in 1968. He told my family that if we wanted to see racism “just go to the cities of the North.” He was SHOCKED at how well blacks were treated in our small Southern town and how many of his newfound friends’ families had black friends in the neighborhood. They were our FRIENDS, not just ‘blacks.’

    • dom.uncl

      well said, earl, a pox indeed.

    • The I

      Hey what was Martin’s two favorite movies? Obviously if you are that knowledgeable about Martin the answer is easy. But without Martin’s testimony or the testimony of a person that saw the entire altercation, you are just relying on Zimmerman’s word. People have relied on the word of more influential people than Zimmerman. Does Madoff sound familiar?

      • Earl P. Holt III

        What REALLY dumb people like you don’t realize is that whatever Martin’s two favorite movies were, that fact is TOTALLY irrelevant insofar as the guilt of George Zimmerman is concerned.

        • The I

          Lol, you’re are interestingly comical, Earl. What you know about Martin is nothing. What you don’t know about yourself is that your part of the hinder-parts of humanity. How many people do you think you have fooled that you are some expert at anything other than naive and shallow talk? Your family may be fooled. Your employer or business associates might be fooled but P.T. Barnum filled the big top with people like you nightly. You can never grow up. You think having some relative importance is imagining you have superiority over some people. The total trick in life is to master yourself. You are powerless and worthless attempting to blanket other people with illusions and false perceptions. The self – aggrandizement is what is beyond hysterical. A Ph.D for your is not really a doctor of philosophy but rather a doctored psychosis.

          • Earl P. Holt III

            Does this mean I have to surrender my Mensa membership…?

          • Earl P. Holt III

            That’s a lot of rambling: Talk about psychosis…

    • Michelle Kirkwood

      Um–he SHOT him, so how the hell can he NOT be responsible? If he hadn’t just assumed that Martin was a “thug” and not a neighbor of his (which,as it turned out,he was) that whole incident would NEVER have happened in the first damn place. If Zimmerman had shot a white boy you wouldn’t even be saying this BS in the first place—you’dbe saying that Zimmerman was a dangerous nut who should’ve been locked the hell up.

  • William Johnson

    It’s sick to concoct lies about the Martin family. An innocent boy is murdered because this man is simply a racist. The world knows it. no one is listening to the rantings of idiots who are trying to justify perverted hate. If you hate Black people admit, don’t try to mask it by cleaning up a sociopath.

    • William Johnson

      If Zimmerman raped a three year old little Black girl these people would applaud him. It is sick for anyone to support this man wouldn’t waist time defending Black people to those who concocted this gang crap because they’re retarded anyway.

      • NikVa

        Don’t be so stupid. So why don’t they show pics of TM at 17 and from his twitter/facebook pages. They already withheld evidence from the defense. Move on loser.

      • suzyshopper

        That is a discusting thing too say, so who’s really the racist here, and for your information in a lot of the video protests I saw, there were white ppl interspersed with different minorities. I read about a black man who was attacked by some white teenagers,the black guy pulled a gun, I believe the black guy had every right too defend himself, and I’m white , so I guess that blows your racist theory too h_ ll about white ppl, that’s what happens when u stereotype ppl.

    • suzyshopper

      I beg to differ, the world doesn’t agree that Zimmerman, there are a lot of

  • William Johnson

    Black people have been here since this country was founded. We labored 200 years building this country before Ellis island. WE were the only ones working, the rest were sitting on their asses as slave masters ertc., . When many came here about 150 years ago the country was already built. This is he thanks we get

  • Crystal Offermann

    In another post, a woman who had know Tracy Martin when he lived in St. Louis said he went by the nickname,”Juice”. According to another source, there were text messages on Trayvon’s phone between him and someone going by the nickname “juice” and they were discussing the illegal sales of guns. On Trayvon’s social media and in his phone, Trayvon had been wanting to purchase a gun–even had a picture of him holding one.

    • Michelle Kirkwood

      Oh, so because Martin’s dad had a nickname, that automatically makes him a “thug”? Whatever—maybe in your little enclosed world it does,considering a lot of people have nicknames—you don’t have to be a “thug” to have one. Yeah, there was a picture from his Facebook page of a gun, but how do you that picture wasn’t sent to him from somewhere else (as people send each other pictures all the time on Facebook) and where’s the proof that he actually ever had a gun to begin with? Keep in mind, Martin was never arrested or had ANY type of criminal record—but Zimmerman does, something you pro-gun,pro-Zimmerman nuts always conveniently overlook,as if it dosen’t exist. And he has a history of instigating violent incidents, just like he did with Martin—and I don’t believe for one minute that any of his rights were violated at all.

      Tired of all this racist demonizing of Martin–you never hear about the fact that he was a decent student who did a lot of volunteer community work, or that he saved his dad from a house fire when he was a kid, or that he was looking forward to going to college (he has an older brother who is currently a college freshman—look it up.) But of course you won’t find none of that here—just the “well, he was a young black male with a hoodie, so he just HAD to be a thug” attitude. Yet Georgie Boy, who was probably able to coast out of being locked up for two felonies due to his magistrate daddy pulling some strings, and who acts like more of a “thug” than Martin did, is seen as this fine upstanding citizen. I will now sit down and barf at the hideousness of that thought.

      • Earl P. Holt III

        You’ve got more excuses for blacks in general — and Trayvon Martin in particular — than 8th Grade History students on term-paper day…

  • Crystal Offermann

    CJOffermann said…
    Just saw this. Let’s all band together: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/civil-rights-prosecution-angela-corey-united-states-department-justice-she-deliberately-withheld/pGTglGG2

    Civil Rights Prosecution of Angela Corey by United States Department of Justice for She Deliberately Withheld Evidence
    Civil Rights Prosecution of Angela Corey by United States Department of Justice for the unlawful Prosecution of George Zimmerman for depriving him of his Constitutional Rights of Life and Liberty by the United States Department of Justice, Eric Holder, United States Attorney General in United States District Court as swiftly and expeditiously as is possible.
    Angela Corey is alleged to have omitted material exculpatory facts, such as photographs of the wounds on George Zimmerman’s head, which go to his defense of “self defense.”
    She was aware when she submitted an affidavit that it did not contain the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. She deliberately withheld evidence that supported Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense.

    Created: Jul 14, 2013
    Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties, Criminal Justice and Law Enforcement, Government Reform Learn about Petition Thresholds It’s up to you to build support for petitions you care about and gather more signatures. A petition must get 150 signatures in order to be publicly searchable on WhiteHouse.gov.
    Over time, we may need to adjust the petition signature thresholds, but we’ll always let you know what the thresholds are.
    Signatures needed by August 13, 2013 to reach goal of 100,000

  • Guy Fromage

    Is the preponderance of …………….. and ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, a side effect of typing with one hand?

  • Gerald Koplitz

    we?? you 200 years old, you didn’t do sh|t

  • Gac

    Are you serious!! It’s black people like you that give black people a bad name. Ignorance does not discriminate, you can find it in all races. I hope you don’t have kids cause I’m sure that you will spread your ignorance to them. We do not owe you anything for the slavery that took place here. Go to school and get an education. I bet you think George Zimmerman is white.

  • suzyshopper

    I contend that white

  • suzyshopper

    Yeah funny oj Simpson didn’t have too go into hiding after being found not guilty, by a mostly black jury,even tho half white America thought he was guilty!!!

  • Michelle Kirkwood

    He wasn’t a thug—it kills me how many people are so willing to believe that Martin was a “thug” simply because of some pictures on Facebook and his talking trash to his friends there (like most teens do.) Funny how people completely ignore the fact that for all the demonizing of Martin online, he had NO criminal record that anyone knows of, yet very white people comment on the fact that Zimmerman has a criminal record of instigating fights with people going back at least a decade:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/trayvon-martin-case-george-zimmerman_n_1392591.html

    Here’s a portrait of what Martin was really like—a kid looking forward to going to college, (his older brother is in college and is doing a political internship) and basically just a regular kid getting into typical teenage trouble, not the “thug” he’s been demonized as:

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/30/us/trayvon-martin-profile

    • suzyshopper

      Maybe before utotally form your opinion about what kind kid trayvon was u should go to some other websites, who actually do investigative digging. I suggest one called conservative treehouse, u might see some eye opening stuff. As for your remark about Trayvon being a typical teenager, he was suspended from school 3 times, his mom booted down too his dads house because she couldn’t deal with him, he beat up a bus driver, he stole, he was a pot smoker, he liked to use a drug called lean, he had pics of pot plants on his phone, he was on his facebook page talking bout how he could get a gun,if that’s your idea of a typical teenager, than God help us all!He had no criminal record because the school didnt file charges, because they found, jewelry an a burglary tool and pot residue in a plastic baggy plus the graffiti, in most schools the police would have bee notified, but because this school thought they had too prove that they were a crime free school, they decided not too report it. I just wonder what else did this kid did, that didnt get reported and what evidence the judge witheld at the trial?I guess we’ll never know, unless there’s a civil trial.

      • Michelle Kirkwood

        I’ve already been to Conservative Treehouse—funny how they searched and searched like hell through all those reports to try and implicate Martin in something, but they still didn’t come up with much besides some speculation and STILL with no actual PROOF of anything he’d actually done. And funny how they didn’t seem to have given a damn about anything going on at that school BEFORE the Zimmerman case—they just wanted to find some dirt on Martin to justify his murder, that all. The bottom line is, we have NO proof whatsoever that Martin was a criminal,yet Zimmerman’s record of instigating violent incidents gets passed over like it’s no big deal—that’s what is pathetic. Stop trying to pull stuff out of thin air,because it’s not working. And,honestly, in some schools, teens can get suspended for little or nothing nowadays, because of stricter rules. All those actions do not a “thug” make—-neither do Facebook pictures—all the pro-Zimmerman nuts have done is take an ordinary teen’s actions and blow them up all out of proportion to point to and claim that he was this “thug”, as if that justified his life being taken. There’s is also no proof that he stole or beat up a bus driver—that last one was a quip from one of his friends on Facebook—and nobody in their right mind takes everything they see on Facebook literally–you’re a fool if you do.) Plus his mother didn’t boot him out of the house,she had sent him to stay with his dad during his last suspension to straighten him out—that happen to kids in divorced homes all the time when they live with one parent–nothing weird about it—it happened in mine,too.

    • Earl P. Holt III

      Like most blacks, Trayvon Martin was handled with “kid gloves” by those in authority, just as ostensible adults now excuse and enable him from the grave.

      Although he was found at school with marijuana, 10 pieces of female jewelry and burglary tools, he was only suspended for a day or two.

      This failure to hold blacks accountable for the consequences of their behavior is why they do not ever seem to “get it” when it comes to the Criminal Justice System, and why they always seem to exhibit a perspective that borders on insanity and immaturity.

      • Michelle Kirkwood

        If you had actually bothered to read whatever you read about that, there was NO marijuana in the bag. Also, I don’t know why the officer called the one screwdriver he had a “burglary tool: when he had NO proof it it was even being used for such a thing. And you got a lot of damn nerve saying “most blacks” do this and that because that’s a stupid racist assumption, especially since you don’t know ALL black people, so where the hell do you get off assuming you know a damn thing about us? The truth is, black people are profiled MUCH more heavily than white people, and that’s a damn fact. Look up the stats,please—I’m not doing it for you.

  • Michelle Kirkwood

    So a picture taken several years ago of Martin’s dad making some kind of gesture is proof that he’s a gangster? Do you even know if that’s an actual gang sign or not, because you haven’t provided ANY proof to back this up, and frankly, this article is ridiculous. And the Conservative Tree House has tried like hell to discredit the Martin family—anything to make dear Georgie boy look like an angel,no matter how long his own criminal record was. Which Martin didn’t even have,yet the racists keep trying to say he was a “thug”., despite little evidence of that.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    No, of course not! It doesn’t mean a thing at all: I do that with my homies all the time. We like to communicate with gestures like that, so there is no mistaking our innocence when we go out and “cap” a store clerk…

  • Earl P. Holt III

    He could not give an accounting for the jewelry in his possession: Unlike yourself, people with three-digit I.Q.s generally interpret that as a situation in which he came by that jewelry through illegal or nefarious means.

    I’m not gonna bother to reply to any other point, because you are so dumb and dishonest that you are NOT worth the trouble of debating.

    • Michelle Kirkwood

      Maybe he didn’t want to because he was pissed off at the fact that his backpack was even searched in the first place—why be so quick to assume that it wasn’t his? And, no I’m not dumb and dishonest just because I didn’t agree with your line of thinking or point.. That’s not how you have honest debates, but since all you want to do is start name-calling. And he DID tell the guard that he was holding it for a friend. I’m done.

  • suzyshopper

    Oh,so the thanks black ppl think they should get, is to indiscriminately be able to declare open season on an white, because what happened 150 yrs ago? Ok gotcha.

  • suzyshopper

    They didnt have to try trayvons own postings to his Facebook page , showed what kind of attitude he had too other ppl, yeah but can u refute what the conservative treehouse found out, no I don’t think u can, because if what they were puttin on their website , wasn’t true , I’m quite sure trayvons parents would be suing for defamation of character.

  • the i

    Naturally, you are full fledged ignorant racist who sees them self at the highest order of thinking. You have completely forgotten you are not your creator and that you have know control over how things are created. You didn’t pick your own mother or your own father and if given the choice, you may have chosen others. But that choice was not given to you. So you have personally created that diluted world where you think you intelligence was derived from melanin, which is the basis of skin color. But you probably want to add some things to melanin which are not scientifically proven but merely laymen talk to make psychotics feel more important than they truly are.

    But let’s get to why you support Zimmerman and the idiotic story he concocted. First, since we have started the this long drawn out conversation, do you have any evidence that people commonly attack other people without reason? From Zimmerman perspective, he was attacked from behind, for no reason, right? So what would be the reason for the attack? Zimmerman didn’t report it as a robbery attempt. The coroner didn’t report any amount of trace drugs that would lead to an attack. So why are you so prone to lean on a story of unusual proportions? It’s because your are a natural judgmental idiot who self awards your self intelligence greater than you have inherited. First dead give away of your idiocy, your Zimmerman like pre judgmental lunacy. Need a fourth grade demonstration? “It’s you racist black imbeciles on the left who do nothing but attack him!” I said you need to ask a benefactor such as Thomas about AA. You have know evidence I am racist other the self created world of cobwebs between your ears. Many witches and vampires have been created with un-intelligent minds like yours. I have never been politically awarded AA. But you wanted to assume (assumption before evidence is a common theme with you) that politics really had something to with the creation of intelligence. My intelligence is not an artificial political creation so I don’t need a bunch of men making laws in the universe on what I can potentially do with my own talents. The one thing you apparently have not absorbed in this life is that when one has a mind that is open, they can learn a lot. When the mind is closed and totally removed from the experience to knowledge attainment totally absorbed in self aggrandizement and mental projection illusions, then that mind is one deserving of service from mental health institution. You do not know the character or ability of people by looking at them. You do not know any other humans actions or reasons better than your own. Please seek the needed help you deserve.

    • Earl P. Holt III

      Your babbling is so incoherent and so full of serious grammatical errors and malapropisms, that I’m not even going to read it: Basically, you aren’t worth the time…

  • Demoralizer

    All friggin’ gangbangers are cowards….get them off by themselves and a gang member minds his p’s and q’s….get him into a gang of shitheads and he becomes Douchebag city…all friggin’ cowards and pieces of crap.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    Is that why many universities have created “Black Studies” Departments? So that they can ensure the same, tough curricula as other Departments? (No one believes this for a second…)

  • friday jones

    Are you guys retarded? Crips color is BLUE, those dudes are wearing RED, so that ain’t a “Crips Hand Sign” you racist tea-tards. And those red shirts have Masonic Lodge symbols on them.

    You can tell that the pictures were taken at a lodge event, because they are labeled with the lodge’s ID, “King Vincent 477,” a Fort Lauderdale based chapter of the Masons.

    And that picture where “dollar bills are raining down” is a backdrop with hundred-dollar bills, some of them rendered so large that Franklin’s head is almost life-sized. Perhaps you are too ignorant to realize this, but American money is covered with, of all things, MASONIC SYMBOLOGY. Such as the All-Seeing Eye on the back of all of our paper currency.

    In conclusion, you are a bunch of racist murder apologists who ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

  • friday jones

    Oh, and Benjamin Franklin was a Mason, so the Masonic Lodge Hall has good reasons to have imagery of Philadelphia with $100 bills featuring Franklin on the front and Masonic symbology on the back, while wearing matching shirts bearing the Masonic crest. The two dudes squatting down on the left are giving each other the Masonic Handshake, and as for the alleged “gang signs,” try Googling “Masonic Hand Signals” and realize that a couple of those guys are using them. And one of the guys is saluting Army style, meaning his lines are sloppy as hell. :p

    But still, good luck with that whole agenda of yours of libeling the father of a murdered teenager who you’ve also libeled. Real classy there, and really shows off your magnificent minds.