Why It Matters Who Wins in Egypt

egypt-cairo-man_2645464bThese days and weeks of bloody struggle in Egypt have implications that go far beyond the country and the region.

The conflict between the Muslim Brotherhood and its opponents will determine whether an Islamic terrorist group will run Egypt.

Forgotten in all the Arab Spring cheerleading is the simple fact that the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist group. And not only is it a terrorist group but it is the single most influential Sunni Islamic terrorist group in the world, spawning entire networks of terrorist organizations; including Al Qaeda.

Egypt holds great resources and great wealth, advanced weapons and even limited nuclear capability. But beyond that it is also where the modern age of terror began, where Western ideas crossbred with the ancient Jihad of Islam to create a new strategic threat.

The Arab Spring, the Islamist Winter and the Military Summer are more than just seasons for Egypt, they are also transformative phases for the country that long stood at the crossroads of terrorism.

The road to America’s modern confrontation with Islamic terrorism began in Egypt. The World Trade Center bombing was spawned by a leader of the Egyptian Islamic Group, an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. Mohamed Atta, the key figure in the September 11 attacks, was an Egyptian member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Today the Engineers Syndicate, the Brotherhood front group that Atta was a member of, is holding rallies in support of Morsi.

The Syndicate is one of many front groups that the Muslim Brotherhood uses to recruit new members. That same process takes place at most American colleges through front groups such as the Muslim Students Association; four of whose chapter presidents became high-ranking Al Qaeda members. One of whom co-founded Al Qaeda.

The clash between the Egyptian military and the Muslim Brotherhood is at the heart of the War on Terror. Al Qaeda may often be associated with Saudi Arabia, but its real roots lie closer to Egypt.

Before Ayman al-Zawahiri became the leader of Al Qaeda, he was a member of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and headed up the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, a terrorist organization spun off from the Muslim Brotherhood that eventually merged into Al Qaeda.

Membership in the Muslim Brotherhood is a biographical note that Ayman al-Zawahiri shared with Osama bin Laden. Al Qaeda’s interim Emir after Bin Laden’s death was Saif al-Adel, an Egyptian member of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, maintaining the Egyptian identity of the new Al Qaeda leadership.

Zawahiri was described as the “brains” of Al Qaeda while Bin Laden was its purse and its public image. That organizational and interpersonal relationship mimics the greater one between the Muslim Brotherhood and its wealthy Gulf oil backers.

Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait and other oil kingdoms may fund terrorism, protect terrorists and fill out their ranks; they may spread the corrosion of its clerics into the West, but they aren’t its brains.

Al Qaeda after Bin Laden is more “Egyptian” and more “Brotherhood” than ever. It draws its rank and file Jihadists from the usual sources, but its orientation has shifted away from Azzam’s global Jihad against the infidels and toward the Islamic civil wars that Zawahiri had sought to fight all along.

There have been no major Al Qaeda operations launched against America. Instead Al Qaeda has reemerged as a loosely aligned group of franchises fighting to take over Muslim countries.

The strategy that emerged distinctly in Iraq, where Al Qaeda often seemed more focused on killing Shiites than on killing Americans, has exploded into full scale civil war in Syria, where Al Qaeda in Iraq is operating as the Al Nusra Front.

In Syria, Al Qaeda’s Al Nusra Front and the Muslim Brotherhood’s brigades in the Free Syrian Army appear to also be loosely aligned, fighting toward the same objectives.

The Arab Spring helped complete the realignment of Al Qaeda’s objectives. It became what its Egyptian faction of Muslim Brotherhood activists had always wanted it to be; a force for helping them take over entire countries, rather than aimlessly bombing Western targets.

Al Qaeda’s two biggest operations took place after the Arab Spring and were carried out on a much bigger scale than September 11. In Mali and in Syria, Al Qaeda franchises attempted to capture entire countries. These operations were aligned with the regional objectives of the Muslim Brotherhood.

When Al Qaeda attempted to seize Mali, President Mohammed Morsi came out firmly against any intervention. Morsi also aggressively pushed for intervention in Syria and called for a No Fly Zone.

The second wave of attacks of September 11, a day most remembered for the assault on the Benghazi mission and the murder of Ambassador Stevens, was concentrated largely in countries and areas under the control of the Brotherhood and allied Islamists, whether it was entire countries, such as Egypt and Tunisia, or cities, such as Benghazi.

In Washington and London, the politicians wanted to believe that the Muslim Brotherhood was a check on its violent splinter groups like the Egyptian Islamic Jihad and the Egyptian Islamic Group and even on Al Qaeda. Instead the Muslim Brotherhood was quietly working with them to advance the common Islamist objectives of imposing total Islamic rule on the region in the form of a united Caliphate.

Morsi’s regime freed Egyptian Islamic Group terrorists and even attempted to appoint an EIG leader as governor in Luxor, where memories still linger of its infamous massacre. That appointment may have been one of the tipping points that toppled the Brotherhood, but it was also a clear message that not only was the Muslim Brotherhood not disavowing its so-called splinter groups, but it was aiding them.

Washington and London may think that they are playing the Muslim Brotherhood against Al Qaeda, but they are the ones being played.

The Muslim Brotherhood’s defeat has damaged the group’s morale by hitting its sense of historical inevitability. It is a long way from being destroyed, but if it suffers a series of defeats in Egypt, Syria and beyond, it will lose members and momentum. And the Brotherhood’s loss will also be Al Qaeda’s loss.

Obama’s weakness created an opening that the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda took advantage of. Now they are at the climactic moment in their great game of Jihad. Either they win here and the road to the Caliphate becomes much smoother or they lose badly and risk becoming relics of history.

It’s a crucial strategic moment that will determine whether the next bomb goes off in America or Egypt.

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  • Naresh Krishnamoorti

    If it’s a question of bombing America or taking over entire countries, like Mali, that are of no concern to us, wouldn’t we rather have them over there than over here?

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “If it’s a question of bombing America or taking over entire countries, like Mali, that are of no concern to us, wouldn’t we rather have them over there than over here?”

      You want to oppose both, because the latter choice means the bombing in the US is delayed but with much better backing and probably people in the USA a lot more complacent. You don’t let the enemy control the timeline unless you want them to win.

    • Tut Ankh Amon

      They are coming after you regardless, its just a question of time

  • http://www.facebook.com/melvin.polatnick Melvin Polatnick

    Islamic
    warriors are enemies of the Arab businessman who wants his nation’s economic
    interests free of outside encroachment. That is why Western powers finance
    the Brotherhood and al-Qaeda; civil wars are needed to weaken The Arab businessman
    and let in Western corporations.

    • JackyTreehorn

      Are you being ironic? do you really blame everything that goes bad for Arabs on the west? I think it more probable that obarmy is paying a modern day Dane geld and by doing so thinks he can control Muslims.
      The naïve fool.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Mullah Polatnick,

      Weaken Arab businessmen like OPEC and Al Qada?

      I’m all for it!

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Forgotten in all the Arab Spring cheerleading is the simple fact that the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist group.

    Absurd, as terrorism, which is perpetrated for all sorts of various political causes and perpetrated by people from all societies and cultures, is a very separate, different, and distinct manifestation altogether from jihad, which specifically is always and only holy fighting in the cause of Allah for the establishment/expansion of Islam and is always waged by Muslim culture alone against all religions and all infidels. Not to mention that while terrorism is always and only violent, jihad, on the other hand, is both non-violent and violent, but overall astronomically far more non-violent relative to violent. For instance, mass Muslim immigration to the West, which is really stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad for the eventual nefarious purpose of demographic conquest, is far more ubiquitous relative to violent jihad attacks. Additionally, it also facilitates violent jihad attacks that are misconstrued as being terrorism by clueless neo-cons just like the writer here. Hence, naming a war the so-called “War on Terror” that inevitably turned into the biggest strategic blunder ever in America’s history was incredibly idiotic to say the least. Thus, the last people on the planet anyone should be listening to when it comes to defending against Islam is clueless neo-cons.

    Indeed, is mass Muslim immigration for the nefarious purpose of eventual stealth demographic conquest terrorism? No, its stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad! Unless, you are a clueless neo-con, then it’s desirable immigration of so-called moderate Muslims.

    And not only is it a terrorist group but it is the single most influential Sunni Islamic terrorist group in the world, spawning entire networks of terrorist organizations; including Al Qaeda.

    Folks chasing hydra-headed terrorists as the writer suggests is not the answer. The answer is properly identifying the correct enemy, which is mainstream orthodox Islam as opposed to so-called radical Islam, which is a fiction. Indeed, mainstream orthodox Islam is totalitarian to the core and has as its sole fundamental purpose the subjugation of all religions and all infidels into Islamic totalitarianism. Thus, Islam in the West should be outlawed and mass Muslim immigration, which is really stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad for the nefarious purpose of stealth demographic conquest, along with all of its excess baggage, should be banned and reversed ASAP. Indeed, it was clueless neo-cons that gave the okay to infuse the constitutions of Iraq and Afghanistan with Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law, thereby ensuring that both countries would become totalitarian hellholes exactly as they are today.

    Either they win here and the road to the Caliphate becomes much smoother or they lose badly and risk becoming relics of history.

    This allege goal of the so-called terrorists, repeated ad nauseum by neo-cons and the so-called MSM press, not to mention also stupid Republicans and Dhimmicrats alike, is ridiculous and absurd, as again the sole fundamental purpose of Islam as opposed to the misidentified so-called terrorists, is to subjugate into Islamic totalitarianism all religions and all infidels via the imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law. Don’t believe me, then study the Islamic doctrine of abrogation and the infamous sword verses of the Koran, which together had the sum effect of transforming Islam from initially what was a “religion of peace” into what it is today, which is a very rabid form of totalitarianism that intends to take over the word via the eventual imposition of Sharia, which again is Islamic totalitarian law.

    Furthermore, Islam is not a religion, at least not by our Western standards, as it compels faith under the pain of death for blasphemy and apostasy, which makes it a very totalitarian cult. Indeed, what true religions compel faith under the pain of death for blasphemy and apostasy? The answer, of course, is none of them, proving unequivocally that Islam is not a religion. Of course, to Muslims it is, but to infidels it’s not. It is something to be defended and guarded against.

    Finally, there are no Islamists, i.e. radical Muslims that also become terrorists, as opposed to so-called “moderate Muslims” that are peaceful and thus make good immigrants. The fact of the matter is jihad is not only the highest pillar of Islam, it is also a fundamental holy obligation incumbent upon all mainstream orthodox Muslims in one form or another. Thus, all mainstream orthodox Muslims, as opposed to fictitious Islamists, are jihadists in one form or another. Otherwise, they are blasphemous apostates that per the texts and tenets of Islam must be executed.

    • Merican

      Never forget that the entire post 911 security monster has not stopped a single major ‘terror attack’, the FBI has a PR unit that finds dumb patsies to bait, the NSA and DOD have patsies in Congress to double or triple their damn budgets and most of US surveillance is rained down on innocent citizens! NeoCons and the fascist Left aka Trotskyites and Bolsheviks are the real enemies of freedom.

      • ObamaYoMoma

        Post 9/11, the common sense approach was to outlaw Islam and ban and reverse mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage ASAP, as no Muslims in America would translate into no stealth and deceptive jihad and also zero violent jihad attacks. Indeed, without Muslims infiltrating America it would be impossible. However, GWB, like his father before, was a leftwing loon pretending to be right wing. Thus, he declared Islam to be a so-called “religion of peace” that was being hijacked by imaginary so-called radical Islamists and then proceeded to grow government in response to the 9/11 violent jihad attacks like a typical radical Marxist Dhimmicrat on steroids, and never mind the fact that growing the government has always been the problem and never the solution as Ronald Reagan so elegantly demonstrated. Oh yeah, he also is responsible for getting us into the biggest strategic blunder ever in American history with his so-called “War on Terror” nonsense, as Muslims aren’t terrorists blowing crap up because of America’s capitalist foreign policy. Instead, the are jihadists fighting both violently and non-violently, but astronomically far more non-violently relative to violently, in the cause of Allah for the establishment/expansion of Islam via the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          The problem that “progressive” Libtards like you have you are always looking for allies in your war against the US and civilization.

          That is why we see “progressives”, the alternate nym for neo-commies, siding with the most REGRESSIVE elements on the World stage today.

          It’s also called the Red/Green alliance. Their world view is diametrically opposite (Womens Rights, Gay Rights, Education for Girls),

          EXCEPT for their shared hatred of the Western Civilization.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            The problem that “progressive” Libtards like you have you are always looking for allies in your war against the US and civilization.

            That is why we see “progressives”, the alternate nym for neo-commies, siding with the most REGRESSIVE elements on the World stage today.

            It’s also called the Red/Green alliance. Their world view is diametrically opposite (Womens Rights, Gay Rights, Education for Girls),

            EXCEPT for their shared hatred of the Western Civilization.

            Seek mental help for your severe problems with delusions you moonbat! Indeed, I’ve been accused of being a lot of things, but a progressive libtard? Never!

    • Jeff Ludwig

      Yes, identify mainstream Islam as the problem in writings, but target terrorists. Also, there should be a sharp delimiting of students from Islamic countries as well as visas.

  • mtnhikerdude

    The Muslim Brotherhood headquarters resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in
    Washington ,D.C. .

    • ObamaYoMoma

      That’s exactly where they resided during the Bush administration as well.

      • truebearing

        That is a false equivalency. Obama has dismantled what Bush built when it comes to intelligence and security. He has given the Muslim Brotherhood great influence in how the FBI can train its agents against Islamic terror. He’s arming Al Queda….and the list goes on and on. Bush may have been fooled by some Muslim operatives, but he isn’t even close to the pro-Muslim stance of Obama.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          Dude…not only are you incredibly ill informed, but also your lips are stained red from all the Kool-Aid you’ve been drinking. I hate to rain on your unhinged parade, but GWB I and GWB II undid everything the Reagan administration did. Yet, you are still their bootlicker. In fact, the people still in the Republican Party at this point are actually leftwing bootlickers so delusional and confused that they actually somehow believe that they are right wing instead and that the two Bush presidencies were wonderful periods to be an American. Oh and, of course, Islam is a so-called “religion of peace” being hijacked by radical Islamists as well, just like the Bush administration alleged. In fact, that is exactly what this neo-con writer always writes about ad nauseum as well.

          • Edward

            ObamasYerMama, Stop drinking the Al-Qada-Aid. It’s making you delirious.

            First foreign trip Obama made was to Egypt for his “apology tour” to the Muslim world.

            If anyone needs to stand up, it’s the good majority Muslims who should be the ones to fight the bad minority which have brought so much death and destruction to the world.

            100,000+ have died in Syria – that ‘s Arabs killing Arabs, yet we don’t see the usual “anti-war” thugs protesting across the street from Syrian embassies/consulates/missions.

            KGB Putin backs the Stalinist Assad family dictatorship and the Kremlin would be very upset with any Counter Revolutionary demonstrations.

            And PLEASE wash your Che T-Shirt already. You think the blood stains will come out in the wash?

          • Gee

            Can we do without the name calling? I do believe that none of the administrations have been all that good when it comes to dealings in the Middle East.

            All of the previous Presidents have done some very distasteful things, to varying degrees.

          • Northstar

            Don’t bother Gee,
            Liberal trolls like ObamaYoMoma can’t be reasoned with.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            ObamasYerMama, Stop drinking the Al-Qada-Aid. It’s making you delirious.
            First foreign trip Obama made was to Egypt for his “apology tour” to the Muslim world.

            Dude, where did I indicate that I’m an Obama supporter? Damn…no wonder you are so delusional, you can’t read and understand a damn thing you read. Nevertheless, I can assure you I’m not an Obama supporter. However, I’m also not a GWB Kool-Aid drinker like you either, especially since he is a liberal that masqueraded as being a conservative, when the reality is he didn’t have a conservative bone in his mentally incompetent liberal body.

            If anyone needs to stand up, it’s the good majority Muslims who should be the ones to fight the bad minority which have brought so much death and destruction to the world.

            And you accused me of drinking the AQ Kool-Aid, when you are drunk and delusional on Bush’s Kool-Aid. I hate to rain on your incredibly gullible useful idiot infidel parade, but you are more likely to run into the abominable snowman long before you ever run into one member of that fictitious good majority of Muslims because they don’t exists. But you being the rocket scientist you most certainly are, I can see why you would believe that absurd garbage.

            100,000+ have died in Syria – that ‘s Arabs killing Arabs, yet we don’t see the usual “anti-war” thugs protesting across the street from Syrian embassies/consulates/missions.
            KGB Putin backs the Stalinist Assad family dictatorship and the Kremlin would be very upset with any Counter Revolutionary demonstrations.

            You are a bona fide and certified Kool-Aid drinking moonbat, Muslims killing Muslims is good for us and bad for them. In fact, if Bush first and Obama second had at least half a brain between them, they would have learn how to exploit the cracks and fissures within Islam to facilitate as many Muslims as possible killing other Muslims. Especially when you consider the fact that all Muslims are our eternal enemies, as I hate to have to inform you of this, but Islam is not a so-called “religion of peace” as your idol GWB ignorantly proclaimed, instead it is a very rabid and vicious form of totalitarianism that aims to subjugate all religions and all infidels into Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

            And PLEASE wash your Che T-Shirt already. You think the blood stains will come out in the wash?

            I tell you what, since you are obviously more than a little delusional, why don’t you stick it up where the sun doesn’t shine you mentally deficient loon!

          • Edward

            OK. I’ll play…

            Dude,

            Please tell us which living person most closely matches your worldview/political outlook.

            I’m not asking for a 100% match, but 75% or better.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Ronald Reagan

          • truebearing

            You’re a typical Paul fanatic… seeing an enemy and a fool in every person who isn’t lockstep with you. Try looking in the mirror sometime. That is where you’ll find the fool causing most of your problems.
            Do you think insulting everyone who doesn’t goose step to your ideological tune is a productive tactic?
            Do you think you can shame or intimidate people into believing what you believe? Fat chance. With your all-emotion-no logic approach, all you will succeed in doing is isolate yourself and alienate those closest to you ideologically. Not very smart from a strategic standpoint, I must say.
            Enough with your self-righteous delusions. Face the fact that you aren’t always right and everyone else isn’t always wrong. And that goes for Rockwell, Von Mises, and all of the know-it-all theorists you’ve deluded yourself into thinking are political gods.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Moi…a Paul fanatic? That’s utterly hilarious! Yeah right, because Paul is a self-hating kook he blames what he calls America’s interventionist foreign policy for generating terrorists and terrorism. He stupidly claims its blowback. However, Muslims are not terrorists, they are jihadists instead, and they are not fighting because of Paul’s paranoid delusion, which again is American interventionist foreign policy, they are fighting instead because jihad is not only the highest pillar of Islam, it is also a fundamental holy obligation incumbent upon all mainstream orthodox Muslims in one form or another, as the sole fundamental purpose of mainstream orthodox Islam is the subjugation into Islamic totalitarianism of all religions and all infidels through jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

            Now I know the above seems outrageous to an inculcated moonbat like you, as your lips are permanently stained red from all the Kool-Aid you’ve been drinking. Indeed, as for as you are concerned GWB and his so-called “War on Terror” were splendid successes instead of the greatest strategic blunder ever in American history. If that’s your delusion, then so be it! All I did was bust your bubble by raining on your extremely deluded parade and now you hate my guts. Big deal!

          • defcon 4

            “The good majority muslims”, don’t make me vomit.

          • moneekwa

            the “good majority muslims” SHOULD make you vomit. they think it’s ok to pay off debts with a 10 year old female, or marry her to her 46 year old 1st cousin, minus her clitoris of course, so she’ll behave; they think a wife should turn off the stove and spread her legs if her husband says so because maybe he saw a sexy flash of eyeball on the way home, and if she refuses he ought to beat her, so say the imams; they don’t consider it pedophilia or gay to sodomize boys, so long as they don’t have pubic hair yet; as for gays, the only disagreement there is the best way to execute them…burn alive? hang off a crane? glue anus shut with surgical glue and force-feed water? so many ways; they will cut off a thiefs hand even if the thief is a little kid; they will kill anyone who is an apostate, including the wrong brand of islam; if you are an infidel, they think your wife, sister, daughter, and mom are all whores and they are fair game to be raped. how in heaven’s name do these degenerate “good majority muslims” NOT make you vomit?????

          • truebearing

            You don’t do too well with reading comprehension, do you. You’re frothing at the mouth over things you imagined I said. Try re-reading comments brfore launching off on your anrcho-capitalistic jeremiads. Maybe you’ll actually understand them.
            I sense that you are curled up in your libertarian fetal position, ready to lash out at anyone who disturbs your ideological righteousness or questions your string of non sequitur, ad hominem attacks.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Look you are making a fool out of yourself trying to berate me, but my only sin is I’m guilty of being exponentially far smarter than you. However, it’s not my fault. I can’t help it, and it certainly isn’t my fault that you are as dumb as you are as well.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          It’s not my responsibility to inform the uninformed; it is the uninformed’s responsibility to inform themselves. Now there have been a ton of articles detailing both GWB’s and Karl Rove’s involvement with the Muslim Brotherhood and their affiliated organizations through Grover Norquist that have appeared here on FPM and also on numerous other websites. Moreover, the Muslim Brotherhood also began infiltrating our FBI, Department of Homeland Security, the Defense Department, and the National Intelligence Directorate among other federal departments during the GWB administration as well. Thus, learn how to use the search function you moronic geniuses! I have more important things to do than to educate low information moonbats!

      • Edward

        The Democrat Party is the party of the Muslim Brotherhood.

        That’s why Obama’s first foreign trip after being sworn in was to Egypt – for an “apology tour”.

      • GWB

        Where are the indisputable facts of your statement ? Proof, list the proof, not opinion. Please.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          It’s not my responsibility to inform the uninformed; it is the uninformed’s responsibility to inform themselves. Now there have been a ton of articles detailing both GWB’s and Karl Rove’s involvement with the Muslim Brotherhood and their affiliated organizations through Grover Norquist that have appeared here on FPM and also on numerous other websites. Moreover, the Muslim Brotherhood also began infiltrating our FBI, Department of Homeland Security, the Defense Department, and the National Intelligence Directorate among other federal departments during the GWB administration as well. Thus, learn how to use the search function you moronic geniuses! I have more important things to do than to educate low information moonbats!

  • Danny

    Jimmy Carter was instrumental in ousting the Shah and putting in his place the theocratic Ayatollahs, a mistake unparalleled in American foreign relations…that is until the same thing was done to Mubarrak being replaced by the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. If Obama had a year to plan, I don’t think he could have come up with a more harmful course of action than to do what he did to Egypt. The ONLY place on Earth where a Muslim Brotherhood leadership MAY be preferable to existing regime is in Syria, and that’s only because that would undermine Iran. And even that’s a maybe. History will show Obama as the leader of the largest collective suicide since the fall of the Roman Empire.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      That is a classic neo-con/establishment Republican Party response. Attacking one’s opponents for political gain supersedes all common sense and decorum. I hate to rain on your parade, but the Bush administration gave us the so-called “War on Terror”, which inevitably turned into the biggest strategic blunder ever in American history. Both major political parties today are totally incompetent and together are literally destroying this country. Nevertheless, we are not at war with the Muslim Brotherhood, AQ, Hamas, the Hezbos, or anyone else. Instead, we are at war with mainstream orthodox Islam because mainstream orthodox Islam is at war with us.

      • Northstar

        I hate to rain on your troll parade but Danny is right about Carter and Iran
        You may not be at war with the Muslim Brotherhood but we are
        And you’re a Liberal troll

        • ObamaYoMoma

          Actually, I’m far more conservative than you, which is why I’m not blind to reality, while you are incredibly blinded by political correctness. Indeed, you moonbats are classic establishment Republicans in the same vein as Karl Rove and John Boehner.

          • Northstar

            Sorry Moonbat but you’re not even more conservative than Jimmy Carter.
            That’s why you whine when Jimmy Carter got called out.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            If you had at least an adult level of reading comprehension skills, you could discern that I didn’t whine when Jimmy Carter got called out.

          • Northstar

            If all the voices in your head were talking to each other, you would know that you did.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Very apparently your mother dropped you on your head when you were just a baby; only in your case it wasn’t an accident. Instead, it was deliberate.

          • Northstar

            You’re confusing me with your hero, Jimmy Carter.

          • Edward

            Another neo-commie claiming to be “conservative”.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Seek mental help for your severe mental problems you moonbat.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          It sounds like all you unhinged delusional moonbats just came back from a support John McCain and Lindsey Graham political rally. Heck, you loons are as delusional as they are.

          • Edward

            Hey Libtard, head over to Syria and see if you can stop the slaughter.

            Personally I’m rooting for both sides to “win”.

          • Gee

            Edward I agree I want all the various Muslims to succeed in their goals against other Muslims.

            Can all of us back down on the name calling? We all have opinions – they can be expressed just as well without it

          • Edward

            What is so bad about name calling?

            The bad guys do it all the time. So should we – to rattle their cages.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Stopping the slaughter is the last thing I would do. Indeed, if I could, I’d expand the slaughter!

          • defcon 4

            I find myself wishing the Iraq-Iran war was still going on today.

      • Roha Waha

        What is the destroying the U.S.A. is the abolition of moral values
        and the sanctity of human life forced upon us by the lawyers and judges of the Progressive Socialist Democratic Party.

      • Moa

        I have to disagree. Not waging a “War on Terror” is even more of a mistake than the current misguided one.

        Yes, the “War on Terror” is misguided – because it target’s “extremists” rather than recognizing the Truth about Islam. But you are completely mistaken that the War on Terror is the “greatest strategic blunder in American history”.

        Why?
        Because the “War on Terror” has had success in disrupting the enemies plans. It has shown the Arab world what jihad is like in their own backyard. It convinced even the mainstream Sunni’s in the “Sunni Awakening” that the West was less bad than the jihadis.

        Similarly, and mostly unreported, has been the reaction of the Libyan population – who have run many of their militias out of town – stating, “We don’t want to be like Somialia”.

        Even now the Egyptians can see what a mess Iraq, Syria and Libya have been. That is why the *Egyptians themselves* staged an anti-Islamist counter-revolution – *despite* the US Democrat regime clearly being on the side of Islamists. This is a *massively* significant development. It would not have happened without confrontation of Islamism around the globe (which is thanks to the pigheaded stubborness of GW Bush; If Obama or Clinton had been on power on 911 you would be fighting the Islamists on the streets of America today instead of in their countries).

        Yes, the “War on Terror” has been messy. Mistakes have been made. But the actions (especially by the Egyptians) have shown that it has been worth it. The Free World is actually winning. It’s just happening slowly as Islamic countries slowly get past the propaganda to see reality – that Islam as a political system is inferior to an Enlightenment society.

        We are winning. If we didn’t even fight we would already have lost. So stop with the isolationist and defeatist whining. Please.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          Dude…I don’t have time to waste on your all your unhinged lunacy, but you have obviously drank so much Kool-Aid that you are even more delusional than Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Have fun living in your dream world, at least until it all inevitably falls apart.

          • Jeff Ludwig

            But practically speaking, you can’t declare “war” on one billion people living in so many different countries can you? distinctions have to be made.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            You want a distinction? Okay, the sole fundamental purpose of Islam is to subjugate into Islamic totalitarianism all religions and all infidels via jihad and through the imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law. Thus, you can surrender into harsh and degrading dhimmitude if you want, but don’t expect me to surrender my freedom without a fight to the death first.

          • Jeff Ludwig

            Mr. YoMoma, I don’t support Sen. McCain on many issues. Frankly, I don’t even know what positions he has taken regarding Islam, terrorism, etc. In the past, he tends to be mealy-mouthed on many issues, and I can’t forget his being too soft in the matter of immigration amnesty. However, even though I probably share many or most of your values, I think your “Live Free or Die” philosophy (motto of New Hampshire) probably should be modified somewhat. What is the role of prayer in your thinking? Do you feel all alone with the problem of the Jihadists? (You’re not.) In short, I believe you need to retain your steadfast attitude, but modify your rage. Be strong. Be right. But don’t allow yourself to come across so “over the top.” Best wishes though it all your endeavors. I believe you are sincere and have a lot of integrity.

          • defcon 4

            Um, all islamic states persecute people of other faiths with the only difference being the degree of persecution being experienced.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          Oh lord, more Kool-Aid guzzling. Obviously, there are a lot of low information voters that support low information Republicans like John McCain and Lindsey Graham visiting this site today. Dude, I hate to rain on your parade but you don’t have a clue and you are further too ill informed and as a result incredibly delusional for me to waste any time on.

          I’m kind of afraid to ask you these two simple questions, but it will be fun nonetheless to see your response: Are Iraq and Afghanistan two beacons of democracy today in the Islamic world as the Bush administration claimed they would become? And is democracy in the Islamic world as a result of the so-called “War on Terror” sprouting out everywhere as the Bush administration also claimed?

          By the way, I hate to rain on your unhinged parade, but unlike what the Bush administration falsely claimed, Islam is not a so-called “religion of peace”, instead it’s a very rabid and vicious form of totalitarianism.

          • Moa

            Thanks for asking the questions. Here are the answers:

            1) In Iraq the Bush Administration managed to defeat the insurgency. The Sunni Awakening turned former terrorists towards supporting the Iraqi Government. The Iranian proxy called The Mahdi Army was destroyed. The Iraqi Army became capable of running their own operations. So capable, in fact, that they made a fatal mistake. They believed they could keep the lid on jihad without the support of the Americans. That, coupled with a large number of Iran-bought politicians (why are politicians always the ones who are so corrupt?) lead to the Iraqis refusing a negotiated Status of Forces agreement except on terms they knew would be unacceptable to the US (which is, US Forces coming under Iraqi Law – ie. Sharia). Of course, Obama had no interest in negotiating such an agreement – for domestic political reasons he had already declared he would pull US forces out of Iraq. It was a combination of Iraqi mistake and Obama’s personal political gain that resulted in the US pulling out. If the US had remained then Iraq would be imperfect, but would be further along the path to a democratic and secular society (just as it took Korea nearly 40 years of occupation to sort itself out to the advanced society we see today).

            You may not be aware, but the Iraqis are searching for a way of getting US advisors back without losing face. They realise that Iran is a bad ally and is a danger to Iraq. You will need to watch this space.

            Yes, the Bush Administration made mistakes. Not preparing for the aftermath of victory, using too few forces for occupation until 2007, allowing the Iraqis to include Sharia in their constitution, not committing forces so that Obama couldn’t pull the rug out from all the hard work that had been done. Bush made mistakes, but it was Obama who snatched defeat (in nation building) from the jaws of victory.

            2) Afghanistan. What else can one say? Obama claimed this was the war that should have been fought instead of Iraq yet he declared unilateral withdrawal. Again, the war was slowly being won and the Afghan Army was starting to be able to do its own operations (they learn more slowly than the Iraqis), but Obama’s declaration of withdrawal for his domestic political advantage again undid all the hard work done under Bush.

            You are correct, Bush’s speech about Islam meaning “peace” was ridiculous. That’s what you get when you do outreach to your enemies and they feed you lies. However, despite silly advice, Bush still maintained good strategic geopolitical policy – the Muslim Brotherhood was not making policy decisions. Under Obama, the Muslim Brotherhood are clearly giving bad advice not just on speeches, but on US actions.

            Stop with the “Kool Aid” nonsense and stick to the facts. Also, stop accusing people of voting for McCain and stick to the facts. I’m not even from American and it makes you look like you are rabid – drinking the “Kool Aid” of your own opinion. Just stick to the facts and we can debate like civilized people. K?

    • Merican

      Such delusion to say this “Muslim Brotherhood leadership MAY be preferable to existing regime in Syria”.

  • Gee

    Am in favor of neither side. The best hope for humanity is that they destroy each other

  • Gee

    Just think the biggest mass murderers of Muslims for the past 1,400 years is Islam

    • Moa

      National Socialism, Communist Socialism, and Islamic Theocratic Socialism have been the largest mass murderers.

      Can you spot anything on common between these systems that elevate the collective over the individual, and as a result end up oppressing and treating human life as worthless? :)

    • JacksonPearson

      It’s been recorded, that since about 620AD, when Mohammed came into power, Muslims have murdered about 270 million of the earth’s population. Russia, China, or Germany combined can’t match them. And sadly, Islam haven’t stopped.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Geoffrey-Britain/100003802091841 Geoffrey Britain

    I’m in almost full agreement. Not to quibble but Egypt holds great wealth?

    Out of 194 countries, Egypt ranks 42nd in GDP, just below Portugal.

    This is indeed about “the road to the Caliphate” and Egypt is absolutely necessary to the formation of a loose alliance of nuclear armed jihadist states, precursor to the formation of a new Caliphate.

  • M. Saleh

    Let us not foreget how the US is upporting the Brotherhood today, it is now very obvious the common objectives of the US and terrorism, it may take us some time to figure out extend of this relation, it exists for sure.

  • Anamah

    Well said Daniel. I have no doubt than worst than the military, worst than Mubarak, there are these fanatic religious persecuting till horrific degrees anyone who dare to think different.
    Morsi and the rest of MB are simply criminals.
    They are an active threat against Egyptian population, and the rest of the world, Israel and America first.

  • knowshistory

    why are so many people who should be friends bashing each other over minor differences of opinion? we all have a sworn and deadly enemy. the enemy is divided into 3 categories 1. nonviolent jihadis, who are winning the struggle due to western cowardice and stupidity. they are overwhelming western countries with immigration, welcomed by traitors in western countries, and subsidized and protected by western traitors. without some outside influence, the west will willingly surrender to the nonviolent jihadis without firing a shot, and our population will either bow down and worship an evil god and venerate an archcriminal prophet, or will be herded into the gas chambers.
    2. violent jihadis. these are the muslims who cannot wait for the west to surrender and disarm, but must kill us now. these fools are our only hope. the only thing that can possibly save the ignorant and cowardly west is these idiots who are so eager to kill us that they will not wait for our traitorous governments to surrender. these, of course, are the only faction that our traitorous governments will take any action against. they are the unwitting friends of the hapless infidel. if our friends the violent jihadis can only acquire a few nuclear weapons, and deliver such a lesson that even archfools like bush, bama, and blair have to take notice, then the west can possibly be saved. or not.
    3. peaceful muslims. this is a fictitious category that exists only in the minds of cowardly and intentionally ignorant liberals.