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	<title>Comments on: You Can&#8217;t Apply for ObamaCare by Website or by Mail</title>
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		<title>By: BagLady</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/you-cant-apply-for-obamacare-by-website-or-by-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-5325225</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BagLady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2013 04:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think no such thoughts.  I should just like to see some value for the years of paying taxes and national insurance into an health system that prioritizes healthcare rather than the bottom line.  Incidentally, as an ex-pat, I receive no free care anywhere in the world... even in my mother country.  My tax contributions only benefit  others.  


Not sure how you came to such a conclusion from what I wrote about China.  Did I say I received free treatment?  No I did not.


What I did suggest is that perhaps, just like Britain, the best qualified medics are being laid off and replaced with cheap and badly trained foreign labour, all to please the shareholders.  I believe it is against a nurses &#039;human rights&#039; to have to speak English  on the wards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think no such thoughts.  I should just like to see some value for the years of paying taxes and national insurance into an health system that prioritizes healthcare rather than the bottom line.  Incidentally, as an ex-pat, I receive no free care anywhere in the world&#8230; even in my mother country.  My tax contributions only benefit  others.  </p>
<p>Not sure how you came to such a conclusion from what I wrote about China.  Did I say I received free treatment?  No I did not.</p>
<p>What I did suggest is that perhaps, just like Britain, the best qualified medics are being laid off and replaced with cheap and badly trained foreign labour, all to please the shareholders.  I believe it is against a nurses &#8216;human rights&#8217; to have to speak English  on the wards.</p>
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		<title>By: pupsncats</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pupsncats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When are you emigrating to China? Or have you already? It seems like you are like those in the past who believe government will take care of you and give you everything you want while someone else pays for it only to find that when the little money their controllers have left to confiscate from the producers, the little people are left impoverished.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are you emigrating to China? Or have you already? It seems like you are like those in the past who believe government will take care of you and give you everything you want while someone else pays for it only to find that when the little money their controllers have left to confiscate from the producers, the little people are left impoverished.</p>
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		<title>By: pupsncats</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pupsncats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And for the priviledged, the finest care money can buy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the priviledged, the finest care money can buy.</p>
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		<title>By: pupsncats</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pupsncats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama isn&#039;t incompetent. He has a plan to transform America into a totalitarian state ruled by Progressives who like all totalitarians, after confiscating the wealth and property of the producers-the workers-takes the majority of it for themselves, dishes out the remainder to their favored few, eliminates their enemies, and rules over the remaining impoverished with an iron fist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama isn&#8217;t incompetent. He has a plan to transform America into a totalitarian state ruled by Progressives who like all totalitarians, after confiscating the wealth and property of the producers-the workers-takes the majority of it for themselves, dishes out the remainder to their favored few, eliminates their enemies, and rules over the remaining impoverished with an iron fist.</p>
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		<title>By: BagLady</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BagLady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not speaking of acupuncture.  The Chinese practise both Chinese and Western medicine.  It&#039;s the staffing levels and the speed at which the staff work that makes the difference.  



I arrived at the Peking Teaching hospital at 9 am.  I saw a doctor twice, had a blood test, an ex-ray, an ECG.  By 10 am I was out of the door with all my results and was to return the next day to see the very eminent Professor Wang Si Zhi - no appointment necessary.  



I compare it to the last time I visited a GP in the UK.  I had to go privately as an ex-pat but was still kept waiting for 2 hours even though the practice had 4 doctors and there were no more than 3 people waiting.  The GP made no apology for keeping me waiting and spent the entire consultation filling in silly details on his computer.  I asked him for antibiotics and he wrote me a script.  The charge was BP60 plus BP8 for the antibiotics.  


On the other hand, when accompanying a friend to the doctor in India, the waiting room was heaving.  However, they got around the problem by calling patients in 3 at a time!  There is no word in Hindi for &#039;private&#039;.  Perhaps the Indian model will be the chosen system for the plebs of the west.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not speaking of acupuncture.  The Chinese practise both Chinese and Western medicine.  It&#8217;s the staffing levels and the speed at which the staff work that makes the difference.  </p>
<p>I arrived at the Peking Teaching hospital at 9 am.  I saw a doctor twice, had a blood test, an ex-ray, an ECG.  By 10 am I was out of the door with all my results and was to return the next day to see the very eminent Professor Wang Si Zhi &#8211; no appointment necessary.  </p>
<p>I compare it to the last time I visited a GP in the UK.  I had to go privately as an ex-pat but was still kept waiting for 2 hours even though the practice had 4 doctors and there were no more than 3 people waiting.  The GP made no apology for keeping me waiting and spent the entire consultation filling in silly details on his computer.  I asked him for antibiotics and he wrote me a script.  The charge was BP60 plus BP8 for the antibiotics.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, when accompanying a friend to the doctor in India, the waiting room was heaving.  However, they got around the problem by calling patients in 3 at a time!  There is no word in Hindi for &#8216;private&#8217;.  Perhaps the Indian model will be the chosen system for the plebs of the west.</p>
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		<title>By: Lanna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lanna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are those who will never give up their freedom...intimidation is NOT going work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are those who will never give up their freedom&#8230;intimidation is NOT going work.</p>
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		<title>By: The March Hare</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The March Hare]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But, here, you are not going to get acupuncture, you are just going to get &quot;stuck&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, here, you are not going to get acupuncture, you are just going to get &#8220;stuck&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: pupsncats</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/you-cant-apply-for-obamacare-by-website-or-by-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-5324160</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pupsncats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the government grants amnesty to the millions of illegal alien criminals already here, many who are not in the best of health, and as the baby boomers age and need more medical care, the system will be overwhelmed. That&#039;s when the unelected bureaucrats in the IPAB will begin rationing health care. They will have to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the government grants amnesty to the millions of illegal alien criminals already here, many who are not in the best of health, and as the baby boomers age and need more medical care, the system will be overwhelmed. That&#8217;s when the unelected bureaucrats in the IPAB will begin rationing health care. They will have to.</p>
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		<title>By: carltjohnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carltjohnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 15:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hell, back in the ole days...the insurance agents went house to house...
As for the web site...did you really expect parasitical humanoids to get anything right??? They ARE...the dumbest among us!, the great unwashed...the barbarians, lacking the ability for self rule and given power because they could be controlled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, back in the ole days&#8230;the insurance agents went house to house&#8230;<br />
As for the web site&#8230;did you really expect parasitical humanoids to get anything right??? They ARE&#8230;the dumbest among us!, the great unwashed&#8230;the barbarians, lacking the ability for self rule and given power because they could be controlled.</p>
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		<title>By: BagLady</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/you-cant-apply-for-obamacare-by-website-or-by-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-5324104</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BagLady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 14:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps you should do what Britain is doing to make up for the lack of front-line medical staff;  bring them in on the cheap from QuackyQuackyLand.  Knock China all you like but,  from personal experience,  I found their system second to none and very very affordable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you should do what Britain is doing to make up for the lack of front-line medical staff;  bring them in on the cheap from QuackyQuackyLand.  Knock China all you like but,  from personal experience,  I found their system second to none and very very affordable.</p>
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		<title>By: The March Hare</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The March Hare]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or grow more and more afraid of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or grow more and more afraid of them.</p>
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		<title>By: The March Hare</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/you-cant-apply-for-obamacare-by-website-or-by-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-5324097</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The March Hare]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 14:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Healthcare.con&quot;
LOL Daniel. Did you mean that or was it a Freudian slip? It sure fits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Healthcare.con&#8221;<br />
LOL Daniel. Did you mean that or was it a Freudian slip? It sure fits.</p>
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		<title>By: Lanna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lanna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 10:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The tactics by this government are beginning to be so ridiculous, people are going to ignore anything they say or do!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tactics by this government are beginning to be so ridiculous, people are going to ignore anything they say or do!</p>
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		<title>By: Lanna</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/you-cant-apply-for-obamacare-by-website-or-by-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-5324068</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lanna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 10:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s what the government wants us to have, Canada&#039;s healthcare system.  Waiting lines, and lack of Doctors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what the government wants us to have, Canada&#8217;s healthcare system.  Waiting lines, and lack of Doctors.</p>
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		<title>By: LolKatzen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LolKatzen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You will end up with same waiting lists we have in Canada with our simple single-payer system.  You will get single-payer results without the simplicity.  Obama is utterly incompetent.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will end up with same waiting lists we have in Canada with our simple single-payer system.  You will get single-payer results without the simplicity.  Obama is utterly incompetent.  </p>
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		<title>By: pupsncats</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/you-cant-apply-for-obamacare-by-website-or-by-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-5323949</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pupsncats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 02:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its been common knowledge there is a shortage of doctors. But Obamacare never set out to address that problem it was implemented for one reason-greater government control over our lives. Period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its been common knowledge there is a shortage of doctors. But Obamacare never set out to address that problem it was implemented for one reason-greater government control over our lives. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: pupsncats</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pupsncats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bigger shock is coming later when people find out they can&#039;t find a doctor, have to wait weeks or months to see one, and if in need of a specialist, a better bet would be to play the lottery.


Bloomberg Businessweek, owned by Michael Bloomberg of course, a big fan of Obama and all things of big government, surprisingly had an article in the current issue exposing the reality that there is already a shortage of doctors and more surprisingly stated &quot;No one&#039;s quite sure when the full weight of the newly created insured will be felt within the U.S. health-care system, and the troubled launch of the online healthcare.gov marketplace adds to the uncertainty.&quot;


The article also gives us a glimpse of the future going on to state &quot;Massachusetts, which passed a health-care law similar to Obamacare in 2006, may offer a preview of what&#039;s to come. The state has more doctors per capita than any other. Yet patients in Boston have the longest wait times of the 15 U.S.cities surveyed this year by AMN Healthcare. Physicians were booked for more than six weeks, on average, almost double the next longest time, which was in Denver. Roughly half the state&#039;s internists and family doctors aren&#039;t taking new patients, says the Massachusetts Medical Society.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bigger shock is coming later when people find out they can&#8217;t find a doctor, have to wait weeks or months to see one, and if in need of a specialist, a better bet would be to play the lottery.</p>
<p>Bloomberg Businessweek, owned by Michael Bloomberg of course, a big fan of Obama and all things of big government, surprisingly had an article in the current issue exposing the reality that there is already a shortage of doctors and more surprisingly stated &#8220;No one&#8217;s quite sure when the full weight of the newly created insured will be felt within the U.S. health-care system, and the troubled launch of the online healthcare.gov marketplace adds to the uncertainty.&#8221;</p>
<p>The article also gives us a glimpse of the future going on to state &#8220;Massachusetts, which passed a health-care law similar to Obamacare in 2006, may offer a preview of what&#8217;s to come. The state has more doctors per capita than any other. Yet patients in Boston have the longest wait times of the 15 U.S.cities surveyed this year by AMN Healthcare. Physicians were booked for more than six weeks, on average, almost double the next longest time, which was in Denver. Roughly half the state&#8217;s internists and family doctors aren&#8217;t taking new patients, says the Massachusetts Medical Society.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DogmaelJones1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DogmaelJones1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Obama told people to drop the substandard website and go find a paper 
application. Now people are told to drop the paper applications and go 
to the website… even while the website is telling them to go fill out a 
paper application.&quot; Perfect summation of the conundrum. It&#039;s a guy you ask for directions from, and he stands there with a silly look on his face, arms crossed, fingers pointing in opposition directions. Or maybe HealthCare.gov should adopt a cartoon logo, one of Alfred E. Newman, tweaked a little to resemble Obama, saying, &quot;What? Me Worry?&quot;  Someone could also come out with a new T-shirt on which is emblazoned the Obama logo, with &quot;I&#039;m with Stupid.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama told people to drop the substandard website and go find a paper<br />
application. Now people are told to drop the paper applications and go<br />
to the website… even while the website is telling them to go fill out a<br />
paper application.&#8221; Perfect summation of the conundrum. It&#8217;s a guy you ask for directions from, and he stands there with a silly look on his face, arms crossed, fingers pointing in opposition directions. Or maybe HealthCare.gov should adopt a cartoon logo, one of Alfred E. Newman, tweaked a little to resemble Obama, saying, &#8220;What? Me Worry?&#8221;  Someone could also come out with a new T-shirt on which is emblazoned the Obama logo, with &#8220;I&#8217;m with Stupid.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Clare Spark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clare Spark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My friend James Pagano MD and I predicted all this in 2009, when the debate began. See the several blogs by Jimmy here: http://clarespark.com/2012/12/14/james-pagano-md-on-healthcare-chaos/. &quot;James Pagano MD on Healthcare Chaos, updated.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend James Pagano MD and I predicted all this in 2009, when the debate began. See the several blogs by Jimmy here: <a href="http://clarespark.com/2012/12/14/james-pagano-md-on-healthcare-chaos/" rel="nofollow">http://clarespark.com/2012/12/14/james-pagano-md-on-healthcare-chaos/</a>. &#8220;James Pagano MD on Healthcare Chaos, updated.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Biff Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biff Henderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say flood the system with paper applications and let the incompetents at that end facilitate the collapse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say flood the system with paper applications and let the incompetents at that end facilitate the collapse.</p>
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