Shooting the Messenger

mesSpeakers’ Corner at Hyde Park, London was once renowned for being the embodiment of freedom of speech where anyone could appear and speak about anything.  In recent years, Islamist speakers have flocked to Hyde Park to deliver their rants and rampages.

A British convert to Islam declaimed there, “I do not believe that absolute freedom of speech is a good thing. The West doesn’t really believe in that freedom either. No one is free to say exactly what they want.”

The British authorities have come around to agreeing with him. Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller have been informed that they are banned from the United Kingdom.

The letter to Robert Spencer informs him, in Orwellian language, that the Home Secretary believes that he should be excluded from the United Kingdom on the grounds that “your presence here is not conducive to the public good.”

Some figures whose presence is conducive to the public good include Abu Qatada, an Al Qaeda figure who has yet to be deported, and Anjem Choudary, who helped inspire the recent bloody murder of Lee Rigby.

MP Keith Vaz, who led a march calling for a ban on Salman Rushdie’s “The Satanic Verses,” called for the ban on Spencer and Geller. And the British government has complied.

While every Islamist leader from around the world has found asylum and taxpayer-funded homes in the UK, Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are too dangerous to allow into Londonistan.

A Wikileaks cable revealed that fear of offending Muslims convinced British governments to grant asylum to Islamist leaders. And now fear of offending Muslims has convinced the British government to keep out the people warning of the danger.

Instead of banning the terrorists, the UK has banned the messenger.

It is a tragic day for Western civilization.

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  • Drakken

    Today they silence peoples voices, tomorrow they will hear the sound of rifles in response.

    • Babylonandon

      Ain’t no rifles in the UK to sound. Far too late.

      • Drakken

        You will be very surprised at how fast weapons can get into the hands of those who need them.

        • Babylonandon

          I hope so … at least here I am already prepared.

        • tagalog

          I think the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943 might have another point of view as to the speed with which firearms, however marginal, can be obtained.

      • OfficialPro

        That’s what smugglers are for!

        • Drakken

          Bingo, just ask a few of those old hard men of the IRA and UDF for a little advice.

    • defcon 4

      Every street a battleground, every house a skirmish, every room a firefight. When there’s no justice, there are no other options.

  • jeepwonder

    The public good? Is sharia and supporting those values for the public good?
    Neville Chamberlain must be alive and well in the UK system someplace.

    • teq

      And Winston Churchill must be tumbling in his grave. What happened to turn the mighty Brits into squishes? Is this our fate too?

  • bluffcreek1967

    The British government, like the American government, has betrayed its own people and implemented immigration policies that are destined to destroy it.

    The West refuses to recognize the danger and deadly influences of Islam. Truth is, Islam and the Muslim people themselves are incompatible with Western values. But I fear the citizens of both Britain and the U.S. won’t realize this until it’s much too late.

    We are literally witnessing before our eyes the self-destruction of the West.

    Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller may be condemned now by British authorities, but a future generation will vindicate them.

    “Ways to Resist the Muslim Plague,”

    • Babylonandon

      You really think there will be a future generation in the UK that isn’t under Sharia?

      • bluffcreek1967

        If the British people come to their senses and resist the Islamic hordes, YES! But if not, there will be no future generation as you implied. Quite honestly, I’m not too hopeful. I think white Westerners have been too deeply fooled by multiculturalism. It will take many deaths and tears before white, Western nations arise from their slumber. At other times, however, I am hopeful. With British prophets like Paul Weston, there’s a chance. We shall see.

  • tyke007

    It is time for you people in the USA to let hard working tax paying Brits like me into your country. You make it impossible! I can’t stand it over here any longer and the future does not bode well for Europe.

    I was so happy that Spencer and Geller were coming here to have an intellectual debate, which has NEVER happened here before. I can’t say I’m surprised they are banned, but this is the last straw for me and proof that truth is actively being suppressed.

    • Babylonandon

      I don’t imagine they will be free to speak in public for TOO much longer inside the US, either.

      • defcon 4

        I imagine there are traitors within the US federal government right now who are desperately trying to outlaw all criticism of islam, yet spin it so it’s compatible w/the provisions of the 1st amendment to the US Constitution (which ALL of them have supposedly swore to uphold).

    • Spikey1

      “It is time for you people in the USA to let hard working tax paying Brits like me into your country. You make it impossible!”

      Simply fly to Mexico then hike across the border. Upon arrival you will receive; free health care and a legal team that will allow you to stay. Obama will even toss in a free phone as a reward for your efforts.

    • Snorbak

      Come down here to Aus, your more than welcome, just dont do via a leaky boat as you may spend some considerable time clearing customs.

      • tyke007

        Thought about Aus a lot actually, loads of Brits are moving there and ta for the invite!

    • StanleyT

      I have one word for you: “Canada”!!!! (But only as long as Stephen Harper remains in power. Heaven help us if Justin Trudeau ever gets elected.)

      • tyke007

        Thanks for that, Canada could very well be the answer!

    • glpage

      Bummer, tyke, you sound like the kind of person this country needs. You can blame the late, great (?) Ted Kennedy for enabling illegal Mexican immigration at the expense of people who could provide more than just menial labor.

      Have you tried asking for asylum? Given you are probably getting close to being in danger of persecution for holding views contrary to the advancement of Islam in Britain if might be worth a try. Of course, our State Department seems to be getting more like British bureaucracy every day, which might make that avenue more difficult.

      • tyke007

        Thanks for the advice and actually I wondered about that, however even the US like you say, may not be the answer anymore although better and safer than here

  • Joel Raupe

    A fine time to meditate on our Independence, and the dear price paid – the natural manure of Liberty – this upcoming Glorious Fourth.

  • FalkoBaumgartner

    Great Britain has become in recent years one of the worst countries in terms of free speech. While people are butchered on the streets by immigrated Islamists, the political and media establishment tries with all might to suppress and denounce free speech about the evident failure of multiculturalism. It is as if the government has turned against its own people. It is a rotten democracy, things haven’t been as bad there for dissident voices since Cromwell.

  • weirdpeter

    The shame never sets on the British Empire.

    • bluffcreek1967

      Britain (and America) is what happens when whites become overly altruistic and think they can ‘save’ the entire third-world. These two nations are living proof of how destructive the Left’s multicultural and Utopian views of the world can be.

      White Westerners are ashamed to publicly say that they are proud of their racial heritage; that they wish to preserve their people and their culture; and that they have a right to exist and flourish just as any other race, culture, and ethnicity. Whites have allowed themselves to be shamed into silence – yet whites collectively have nothing to ashamed of! We are not perfect (what racial group is?), but we have brought much that’s good to the world. Those who wish to displace or decrease the white race will only later realize how utterly stupid they’ve been to do so.

      “Illegal Immigration: Preserving Our Race and Culture,”

  • cathy

    Has Islam won? Is it only a matter of time? It appears that all the PC democracies of the free world are being taken over from within through Islamic appeasement. Does the “powers that be” not get it? Do citizens of the free world not get it?

    • LindaRivera

      Western ruling elites know EXACTLY what they are perpetrating against our non-Muslim people. They are united with Muslims against our people.

  • Ron McLaren

    and soon a car for you to get to your job with too!

  • LindaRivera

    I am distressed to read this dreadful news. England is the country of my birth. Every single day I grieve over what has happened to Britain. Human rights mean everything to me. Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer (and Tommy Robinson, Kev Carroll and EDL members) are CARING, HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVISTS. I am deeply grateful to them for their work in standing up for victims.

    Jihad Slavery in Sudan, with Dr Charles Jacobs

    For 1,400 years, slavery has been a part of Islam. Slavery perpetrated by Muslims exists in Sudan, Mauritania, other countries AND IN BRITAIN. There are MANY THOUSANDS of terrorized NON-Muslim British children who have been violently gang-raped, forced into prostitution and sexually enslaved by cruel, EVIL Muslims:

    Barenakedislam: Traumatized 16-year-old British girl was brutally raped by 90 different Muslim men in one weekend

    I long for the day when EVERY slave will be free!

    It is considered UNACCEPTABLE by UK ruling elites to care about NON-Muslim, defenseless child victims of Muslim MONSTERS. The terrible jihad against Britain’s children has been going on for over 20 years. The desperate children
    begged police and other authorities to help them. The children were
    ignored. The Muslim satanic abuse continued. God help the children!

    A nation whose leaders REFUSE to protect their indigenous children CANNOT survive!


    Join the political party in Britain that truly cares! Liberty GB!

  • LindaRivera

    Human rights activists and truth-tellers are hated by UK ruling elites. The top FAVORITES of UK elites are Muslim jihadists. UK elites are opposed to jihadists working to support themselves and are eager for jihadists to live for FREE off despised British infidels. That way, the jihadists elites ADORE, can devote ALL
    of their time to jihad against hated infidel Britain. Muslim preacher urges followers to claim ‘Jihad Seeker’s Allowance’
    A Muslim preacher is secretly filmed urging followers to take benefits from the state to fund a holy war. 17 Feb 2013

    Anjem Choudary was secretly filmed mocking non-Muslims for working in
    9-5 jobs their whole lives, and told followers that some revered
    Islamic figures had only ever worked one or two days a year.

    “The rest of the year they were busy with jihad [holy war] and things
    like that,” he said. “People will say, ‘Ah, but you are not working’.

    “But the normal situation is for you to take money from the kuffar [non-believers].

    “So we take Jihad Seeker’s Allowance. You need to get support.”

    He went on to tell a 30-strong crowd: “We are going to take England — the Muslims are coming.”…

    Choudary, a father-of-four, claims more than £25,000 a year in benefits…

    UK ruling elites work EVERY day to make Britain SAFE for Muslim terrorists.

  • pennant8

    I imagine that the Muslim invaders are stunned by this turn of events. They can’t believe it’s true. They are saying to each other “Who knew it would be this easy?”

  • wri7913

    Don’t forget to work up a deep dark tan. The darker the tan, the better your rewards will be.

  • george mack

    Don’t omit Anis Matta from the list of terrorism fans the Uk allowed in without a whimper of objection.

  • Anamah

    This is a job for 007… Great Britain is in the hook, he should be called right now!

  • DogmaelJones1

    No, no, Spikey1. Tyke007 doesn’t sound illiterate and is probably the wrong skin color, and probably has skills to offer. If he joined a band of illegals crossing over to the U.S., his “compadres” would probably kill him. Mexicans can be racists, too. It’s called “gringophobia.” But,that kind of “phobia” is allowed.

  • 1PierreMontagne1

    When will MP Keith Vaz start demanding prosecution of British women complaining of Rape by Moslem males.

  • Samuel

    Don’t they also ban Holocaust deniers and Nazis? What’s the difference between them and Geller? They’re all evil.

    • JoeTF

      So, I see you voluntarily bought and swallowed the filthy banquet of Gellerphobia the leftist-Islamic alliance cooked up for you. You wouldn’t happen to know any facts that indicate these evils you fear are real, now would you?

      Of course if you are an Islamic supremacist, you DO have something to fear: the truth.

    • defcon 4

      Only a fascist idiot would deny the Holocaust in the face of the mountain of evidence that it occurred. Of course if you’re a nazi pig or muslime swine, facts and evidence are irrelevant.

  • OfficialPro

    The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

    The fear of offending Muslims is the beginning of stupidity and foolishness.

  • prbrown60

    Welcome to knew Islamic State of Great Britian!

  • Burlington

    Europe is dead, they just don’t know it yet. Uncle Sam is voluntarily standing on a stool with a rope around his neck waiting for a leftie to kick the stool away.

  • dizzyizzy

    Our curbs on free speech are self-imposed, thanks to both communist penetration and the upper class white liberal foundations. See “The origins of political correctness.”

  • FlyOnTheScrtm

    Today before reading this article I was thinking about the West in view of Obama’s visit to Africa. I live in one of the countries Obama is visiting. I had the impression that we are seeing the last of the Western Civilization as we know it and boom here comes this article as if to confirm it. As the US destroys the fabric of its society by the recent DOMA ruling and as the West in a rather bizarre way embraces death rather than life (just as the Islamists do) by embracing abortion and the genocide of the unborn while throwing open their borders open to all to come in, I have reached the conclusion that there is no where left for the West to go but down. As the good book says, “There place let another take.”

  • tokoloshiman

    like all of the west , the uk is caving in to extremism.
    the brits are now too afraid to say boo, because
    they have been reduced to dhimmies in their ow country.
    they are viciously retaliating by trying to stab radical islam in the neck
    with wet noodles.
    britain is no longer great it is rather grating on the nerves with its
    milquetoast politicians and hand wringing appeasers.

  • tagalog

    Throughout the free world, the left, which works hand-in-hand with those who would overturn the West, has seen bold advances in their agenda during the past week, both in the USA. the UK and in France. The right, which claims to be loyal to the goals of individual liberty, limited government, and free-market economics, is fading in influence. I hope that will change, but it seems that the forces of determinism, materialism, and unlimited government are winning the current struggle, together with the most unattractive form of religion in the world today.

  • cathy

    Sunni and Shiite terrorists represent two of many factions of Islam that hate each other but both factions have common ground when it comes to hatred of Jews and Christians … when it comes to an ultimate goal of a worldwide Islamic takeover. Something akin to two fighting crocodiles.

    Ted Cruz to Obama on Syria: Don’t arm those who hate us!
    June 20th, 2013

    • cathy

      Wrong thread. I apologize.

  • American1969

    How sad. Sounds like it’s time for the people of Britain to take to the streets and protest this nonsense. Stand up and take their culture and their country back.
    Islam is not compatible with Western civiliization. These people are backward and brutal, and all of the bending over backward to appease makes me sick. Wish there was that much room made for Christianity and Judaism!

  • Dado7

    The UK is now completely irrelevant.

  • ziggy zoggy

    Pamela Gellar is quite hot……….