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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Climate Change&#8217; and the &#8216;Fundamental Transformation of America&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: nightspore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nightspore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where are the innundated beaches? Or is the land rising  along with the ocean? There is plenty of reason to suspect the land temperature records: see &quot;The smoking gun at Darwin&quot; (Australia), Paul Homewood&#039;s articles on the manipulation of the Icelandic temperature record, and Steve Goddard&#039;s postings on the (shall we say) exuberant adjustments of the USHCN temperature record. Also. Edward Long&#039;s paper, &quot;Contiguous U. S. Temperature Trends using NCDC Raw and Adjusted Data for One-Per-State Rural and Urban Station Sets&quot;, which shows how little is left of the temperature rise if basic controls are included in the analysis.

My take on this is that what began as an honest attempt to systematize temperature adjustments back in the 80&#039;s has slowly turned into a game of self- and other-delusion. Part of the problem is that the temperature record wasn&#039;t all that good in the first place; this is not high-powered physical science, although it&#039;s now been gussied up to look that way. But this doesn&#039;t explain the repeated attempts at hockey-stick-ization of long-term temperature records, which indicates a more serious debasement of science in this field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are the innundated beaches? Or is the land rising  along with the ocean? There is plenty of reason to suspect the land temperature records: see &#8220;The smoking gun at Darwin&#8221; (Australia), Paul Homewood&#8217;s articles on the manipulation of the Icelandic temperature record, and Steve Goddard&#8217;s postings on the (shall we say) exuberant adjustments of the USHCN temperature record. Also. Edward Long&#8217;s paper, &#8220;Contiguous U. S. Temperature Trends using NCDC Raw and Adjusted Data for One-Per-State Rural and Urban Station Sets&#8221;, which shows how little is left of the temperature rise if basic controls are included in the analysis.</p>
<p>My take on this is that what began as an honest attempt to systematize temperature adjustments back in the 80&#8242;s has slowly turned into a game of self- and other-delusion. Part of the problem is that the temperature record wasn&#8217;t all that good in the first place; this is not high-powered physical science, although it&#8217;s now been gussied up to look that way. But this doesn&#8217;t explain the repeated attempts at hockey-stick-ization of long-term temperature records, which indicates a more serious debasement of science in this field.</p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And weather is not climate.  The data are already on the page.  There is nothing much I can cite if you consider the data suspect.  There is also not much I can do if you consider the motives of the scientists to be suspect.  Are there any data that you would consider sound?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And weather is not climate.  The data are already on the page.  There is nothing much I can cite if you consider the data suspect.  There is also not much I can do if you consider the motives of the scientists to be suspect.  Are there any data that you would consider sound?</p>
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		<title>By: nightspore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nightspore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[January 2010 - NWS reports longest stretch of cold in Florida for 100 years; week ending 1/6 1200 new cold and snow records reported across US; in Britain severe cold snap reported in Telegraph and other newspapers; 1/9 Int&#039;l Herald Trib reports &quot;cold causes disruption on both sides of the Atlantic&quot;; Irish Times - Beijing suffers &quot;prolonged cold spell&quot;

June and July - &quot;brutal and historical cold snap has so far caused 80 deaths in South America&quot;, whileTelegraph
reports that Nashville had the coolest 7/21 on record

November and December - &quot;record cold&quot; in Beijing (UPI), in Britain (Guardian, MSNBC, Daily Express), in Norway:
&quot;coldest November in 222 years&quot; (Aftenposten), severe cold &quot;across Europe and China&quot; (IBNLive), also subnormal temperatures throughout Australia (BOM)

Given these and more, then despite a hot summer in the US, it&#039;s hard to believe this was the &quot;hottest year on
record&quot; But then it&#039;s wonderful what you can do with adjustment &#039;algorithms&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>January 2010 &#8211; NWS reports longest stretch of cold in Florida for 100 years; week ending 1/6 1200 new cold and snow records reported across US; in Britain severe cold snap reported in Telegraph and other newspapers; 1/9 Int&#8217;l Herald Trib reports &#8220;cold causes disruption on both sides of the Atlantic&#8221;; Irish Times &#8211; Beijing suffers &#8220;prolonged cold spell&#8221;</p>
<p>June and July &#8211; &#8220;brutal and historical cold snap has so far caused 80 deaths in South America&#8221;, whileTelegraph<br />
reports that Nashville had the coolest 7/21 on record</p>
<p>November and December &#8211; &#8220;record cold&#8221; in Beijing (UPI), in Britain (Guardian, MSNBC, Daily Express), in Norway:<br />
&#8220;coldest November in 222 years&#8221; (Aftenposten), severe cold &#8220;across Europe and China&#8221; (IBNLive), also subnormal temperatures throughout Australia (BOM)</p>
<p>Given these and more, then despite a hot summer in the US, it&#8217;s hard to believe this was the &#8220;hottest year on<br />
record&#8221; But then it&#8217;s wonderful what you can do with adjustment &#8216;algorithms&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: pookieamos</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/jack-kerwick/climate-change-and-the-fundamental-transformation-of-america/comment-page-1/#comment-5239272</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pookieamos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 04:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep , you&#039;re right . I also heard that Obamas buddies were going to make a fortune building the pipeline out of Canada to China . Screw the American people , that&#039;s the Obama mantra.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep , you&#8217;re right . I also heard that Obamas buddies were going to make a fortune building the pipeline out of Canada to China . Screw the American people , that&#8217;s the Obama mantra.</p>
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		<title>By: pookieamos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pookieamos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 04:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I truly feel your pain and misery , I feel exactly like you do ! My new ecscapism from FOX and politics is BINGO ! I just have to get away else I&#039;ll go insane . Yep , I can blame my new addiction on Obama , but heck from what I&#039;m seeing America will be dead and burried before I&#039;m broke ! I figure anymore why save it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly feel your pain and misery , I feel exactly like you do ! My new ecscapism from FOX and politics is BINGO ! I just have to get away else I&#8217;ll go insane . Yep , I can blame my new addiction on Obama , but heck from what I&#8217;m seeing America will be dead and burried before I&#8217;m broke ! I figure anymore why save it.</p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think such an intellectual analysis needs further comment.  According to the previous poster that&#039;s another £50-00 to my account.  Thanks bud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think such an intellectual analysis needs further comment.  According to the previous poster that&#8217;s another £50-00 to my account.  Thanks bud.</p>
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		<title>By: ziggy zoggy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ziggy zoggy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honest data? Your pals falsified data all the way back to 1940! A lie told often enough becomes the truth, eh? You obviously DO have a vested interest in the anthropogenic global warming scam. You should use some of your ill got loot to buy a dictionary and look up the definition of &quot;conspiracy.&quot; And &quot;fraud.&quot; And &quot;canard.&quot; And &quot;prig.&quot; Britain allows old queens like you to legally bugger 16 year old boys and you want to whine about profanity? Seriously? Next thing you&#039;ll call me a racist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honest data? Your pals falsified data all the way back to 1940! A lie told often enough becomes the truth, eh? You obviously DO have a vested interest in the anthropogenic global warming scam. You should use some of your ill got loot to buy a dictionary and look up the definition of &#8220;conspiracy.&#8221; And &#8220;fraud.&#8221; And &#8220;canard.&#8221; And &#8220;prig.&#8221; Britain allows old queens like you to legally bugger 16 year old boys and you want to whine about profanity? Seriously? Next thing you&#8217;ll call me a racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No evidence of fraud?
Read the emails yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No evidence of fraud?<br />
Read the emails yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Odd then that they now agree with McIntyre and McKittrick that their tree ring data was garbage.

Try to keep up.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd then that they now agree with McIntyre and McKittrick that their tree ring data was garbage.</p>
<p>Try to keep up&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Better take a closer look at those inquiries and what they actually examined, and who they allowed as witnesses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better take a closer look at those inquiries and what they actually examined, and who they allowed as witnesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read the emails yourself, you might learn something!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the emails yourself, you might learn something!</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/jack-kerwick/climate-change-and-the-fundamental-transformation-of-america/comment-page-1/#comment-5239049</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Middle east oil producers import coal so they can free up more oil for export to the US.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Middle east oil producers import coal so they can free up more oil for export to the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only thing critical about the Keystone decision is that Warren Buffet&#039;s trains are making billions hauling the oil that would go through the Keystone pipe.
If the pipe goes ahead Buffet&#039;s trains will go empty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing critical about the Keystone decision is that Warren Buffet&#8217;s trains are making billions hauling the oil that would go through the Keystone pipe.<br />
If the pipe goes ahead Buffet&#8217;s trains will go empty.</p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2013 09:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not only do you refuse to accept honest data, you say that someone is paying me to lie.  What a conspiracy!  How much do you think each of my posts is worth?  5 cents, £5-00, £100-00? How much would someone pay me to tell the truth?   How much do you think the authors of this table got?

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt


By the way, how long do you think you can get away with the use of such profanity in your posts?  I am not the only person here who finds it objectionable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only do you refuse to accept honest data, you say that someone is paying me to lie.  What a conspiracy!  How much do you think each of my posts is worth?  5 cents, £5-00, £100-00? How much would someone pay me to tell the truth?   How much do you think the authors of this table got?</p>
<p><a href="http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt" rel="nofollow">http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt</a></p>
<p>By the way, how long do you think you can get away with the use of such profanity in your posts?  I am not the only person here who finds it objectionable.</p>
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		<title>By: ziggy zoggy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ziggy zoggy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2013 08:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;These are matters of record, which you can confirm quite easily.&#039;
Another stupid dodge. Even if those cherry picked figures were true they would prove nothing except that temperatures fluctuate annually. Average temps have been consistent for 16 years and counting. mankind has nothing to do with global temps and Co2 is a byproduct of warming released by oceans and not the cause of any warming. Cause and effect, not effect and cause.
Just because somebody pays you to lie, that doesn&#039;t make your mentally retarded lies persuasive in any way. F*** off back to the short bus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These are matters of record, which you can confirm quite easily.&#8217;<br />
Another stupid dodge. Even if those cherry picked figures were true they would prove nothing except that temperatures fluctuate annually. Average temps have been consistent for 16 years and counting. mankind has nothing to do with global temps and Co2 is a byproduct of warming released by oceans and not the cause of any warming. Cause and effect, not effect and cause.<br />
Just because somebody pays you to lie, that doesn&#8217;t make your mentally retarded lies persuasive in any way. F*** off back to the short bus.</p>
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		<title>By: anor277</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anor277]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2013 23:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A non-answer to a non-question. I am no under no obligation to answer absurd propositions.  Please remember that I don&#039;t know you and on the internet it is always preferable to talk to other individuals as if you are talking to them face to face.

As regards global temperature, different reports consistently show that the year 2005 was hotter than 1998; the hottest 12 month period recorded was between June 2010 and May 2010.  These are matters of record, which you can confirm quite easily.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A non-answer to a non-question. I am no under no obligation to answer absurd propositions.  Please remember that I don&#8217;t know you and on the internet it is always preferable to talk to other individuals as if you are talking to them face to face.</p>
<p>As regards global temperature, different reports consistently show that the year 2005 was hotter than 1998; the hottest 12 month period recorded was between June 2010 and May 2010.  These are matters of record, which you can confirm quite easily.</p>
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		<title>By: ziggy zoggy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ziggy zoggy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2013 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The election is long over. Stop campaigning, you dumb@$$.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The election is long over. Stop campaigning, you dumb@$$.</p>
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		<title>By: ziggy zoggy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ziggy zoggy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@nus277 just ignores the facts and keeps claiming that left is right. I know you get paid to do this but damn, you are one lousy liar. For a lie to be effective it has to be convincing, you halfwit. You cant just say the sky is falling and expect everybody to believe you year after year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nus277 just ignores the facts and keeps claiming that left is right. I know you get paid to do this but damn, you are one lousy liar. For a lie to be effective it has to be convincing, you halfwit. You cant just say the sky is falling and expect everybody to believe you year after year.</p>
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		<title>By: ziggy zoggy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ziggy zoggy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another non answer from hockey stick boy. Earth&#039;s climate hasn&#039;t changed in 16 years- not that it will matter when it finally does go up or down. Every projection made by the Chicken Littles has been wrong for going on 30 years now. Doomsday never comes but hey, maybe next year? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another non answer from hockey stick boy. Earth&#8217;s climate hasn&#8217;t changed in 16 years- not that it will matter when it finally does go up or down. Every projection made by the Chicken Littles has been wrong for going on 30 years now. Doomsday never comes but hey, maybe next year? </p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2013 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always enjoyed the phenomenon of hearing the global warming/climate changeists discuss the current year&#039;s weather as a harbinger of climate disaster (as when there are hurricanes - have you noticed the change in storm reporting in the past couple of years? - they now report Caribbean storms that don&#039;t come anywhere near the U.S. coast line, and storms along the western Mexican coast, something they rarely did before), but respond to reports of years when there are extraordinarily cold winters by saying &quot;one year&#039;s worth of weather, even a decade&#039;s worth, doesn&#039;t translate automatically into a climate prediction.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always enjoyed the phenomenon of hearing the global warming/climate changeists discuss the current year&#8217;s weather as a harbinger of climate disaster (as when there are hurricanes &#8211; have you noticed the change in storm reporting in the past couple of years? &#8211; they now report Caribbean storms that don&#8217;t come anywhere near the U.S. coast line, and storms along the western Mexican coast, something they rarely did before), but respond to reports of years when there are extraordinarily cold winters by saying &#8220;one year&#8217;s worth of weather, even a decade&#8217;s worth, doesn&#8217;t translate automatically into a climate prediction.&#8221;</p>
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