Christianity, Islam, and Atheism: The Struggle for the Soul of the West

Jamie Glazov is Frontpage Magazine's editor. He holds a Ph.D. in History with a specialty in Russian, U.S. and Canadian foreign policy. He is the author of the critically acclaimed and best-selling, United in Hate: The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror. His new book is High Noon For America. He is the host of Frontpage’s television show, The Glazov Gang, and he can be reached at jamieglazov11@gmail.com. Visit his site at JamieGlazov.com.


Frontpage Interview’s guest today is William Kilpatrick, the author of several books, including Psychological Seduction and Why Johnny Can’t Tell Right from Wrong. His articles about Islam have appeared in FrontPage Magazine, Investor’s Business Daily, Catholic World Report, and other publications. His most recent book, Christianity, Islam, and Atheism: The Struggle for the Soul of the West explores the threat that Islam poses to Christianity and Western civilization. The book also examines the role played by militant secularists in facilitating the expansion of Islam.

FP: William Kilpatrick, welcome to Frontpage Interview.

Let’s begin with you telling us what inspired you to write this book.

Kilpatrick: In a way it’s a continuation of an earlier book of mine, Why Johnny Can’t Tell Right From Wrong.  That book looked at the ways in which moral relativism impaired Johnny’s ability to tell right from wrong.  Part of the new book looks at the ways in which cultural relativism, or multiculturalism, impairs his ability to tell friend from foe.  One of the chapters is titled “Why Johnny Can’t Read the Writing on the Wall.”  One of the main reasons Western citizens can’t see the obvious about Islam is that they have been subjected to an educational system that insists on the moral equivalency of all cultures and religions, just as it had previously insisted on the equivalency of all value systems.  So, the initial impulse for writing the book was my realization that the same people who introduced moral chaos into schools and society were now bent on normalizing an alien ideology.  Or, to paraphrase Mark Steyn, the people who brought you Heather Has Two Mommies are about to bring you “Heather has four mommies and a great big bearded daddy.”

FP: Can you explain the title?

Kilpatrick: I use the word “atheism” in the title as shorthand for both atheists and militant secularists, most of whom tend to be on the left.  Many Christians have awakened to the fact that they are in a cultural struggle with secular leftists, but far fewer have come to the realization that they are also in a civilizational struggle with Islam.  Fewer, still, are aware that, as you point out in United in Hate, the left has formed a tacit alliance with radical Islam against the West.

Of course, Christians aren’t the only ones who are threatened by Islamic expansion.  All non-Muslims are.  But in the West, Christianity has traditionally been the focal point of resistance to Islamization.  Unfortunately, Christianity in the West has been weakened both by secular attacks and by self-inflicted wounds.  As a result, Christians in the West are failing to stand up for their cultural heritage.  In fact, many fail to realize that their culture is under attack.

But without Christianity you are left mainly with philosophies of relativism, skepticism and materialism—philosophies that have proved themselves incapable of resisting Islamization and, in fact, serve to enable its spread.  You can see this most clearly in Europe where the decline of Christianity has been accompanied not only by the rise of secularism but also by the rise of Islam.  With the loss of faith has come a loss of meaning and the loss of a sense among Europeans that they have anything worth defending.  The loss of faith is also one of the main factors accounting for Europe’s population loss.  In other words, the decline of Christian faith in Europe created a spiritual vacuum and a population vacuum, both of which Islam was quick to fill.

While Muslim leaders and radical secularists are fully engaged in the struggle for the soul of the West, many Christians seem unaware that they are under attack from two sides.  They need to wake up before it’s too late.

FP: In one of your chapters, you spoke of “Christian enablers of Islam.”  Can you elaborate on that?

Kilpatrick: Many Christian leaders unwittingly act as enablers of Islam’s totalitarian agenda by focusing on the surface similarities between Christianity and Islam rather than on the profound and irreconcilable differences.  A prime example is the Vatican II document Nostra Aetate which includes a short statement of the Church’s relation to Muslims.  Essentially, it says that Muslims adore the one God, revere Jesus, honor Mary, and value the moral life.  Reading it one could easily jump to the conclusion that the Christian faith and the Islamic faith are very much alike.  One might also conclude that Islam is indeed a religion of peace that has been hijacked by a handful of terrorists who misunderstand their own religion.

However, before jumping to that conclusion one needs to realize that Nostra Aetate was never intended to be the last word on Islam.  Rather, the stated purpose of the declaration was to consider “what men have in common.”  Moreover, it was written at a time—the 1960’s—when the Muslim world was far more moderate than it is now—a time when interreligious dialogue seemed to hold great promise.  Recently Pope Benedict noted that with the passage of time “a weakness” of Nostra Aetate has become apparent:  “it speaks of religion solely in a positive way and it disregards the sick and distorted forms of religion.”  I think it safe to say that he’s referring here to Islam or, at least, to some forms of Islam.

This is a hopeful sign of a new realism about Islam.  For too long, Catholic and Protestant leaders, alike, have been content to fall back on what I call the “common ground thesis”—the comforting belief that the Christian faith and the Islamic faith share much in common.  As a result, a lot of Christians have been lulled into complacency about the threat from Islam.  If they want to avoid the fate of Christians in North Africa, the Middle East, and various other Muslim regions they need to get a better grasp on what Islam really teaches.

FP:  What do Christians need to understand about the differences between Islam and Christianity?

Kilpatrick: Islam is built on a rejection of the main tenets of Christianity.  It rejects the Trinity, the Incarnation, the Crucifixion and the Resurrection.  There is a Jesus in the Koran but he seems to be there mainly for the purpose of denying the claims of Jesus of Nazareth.  Muhammad seemed to have realized that if the Christian claim about Jesus was true, then there would be no need for a new prophet and a new revelation.  Consequently, in order to buttress his own claim to prophethood it was necessary for him to cut Jesus down to size.  Thus the Koran tells us that “he was but a mortal” and only one in a long line of prophets culminating in Muhammad.

John the Baptist said of Jesus that “He must increase but I must decrease.”  Muhammad preferred it the other way around.  For him to increase it was necessary for Jesus to decrease.  Christians need to realize that Jesus is in the Koran, not because Muhammad thought highly of him but because Muhammad saw him as a rival who needed to be put in his place.  The problem is that in using Jesus for his own purposes, Muhammad neglected to give him any personality.  The Jesus of the Koran is more like a stick figure than a person.  Whether or not one accepts the claims of the Jesus of the Gospels, he is, at least, a recognizable human being who goes fishing with his disciples, attends wedding feasts and gathers children about him.  By contrast, the Jesus of the Koran seems to exist neither in time nor space.  The Koranic account of him is completely lacking in historical or geographical detail.  There is no indication of when he lived, or where he conducted his ministry, or the names of his disciples or his antagonists such as Herod and Pilate.  In other words, he seems to be nothing more than an invention of Muhammad’s—and not a very convincing invention at that.  In this regard it’s instructive to note that the Koran rails constantly against those who claim that “he [Muhammad] invented it himself.”

In sum, Christians who think that Muslims revere the same Jesus as they do need to better acquaint themselves with the Koran.

FP: Why do you think there is so much ignorance in the West about Islam?

Kilpatrick: Much of the ignorance can be explained in terms of multicultural dogma combined with self-censorship.  In the West the multicultural ideology has attained the status of a religion.  Christians believe that Jesus saves, but multiculturalists believe that diversity saves.  And to question the dogmas of diversity is tantamount to heresy.  Nowadays heretics aren’t burnt at the stake, but they are threatened with loss of reputation and loss of employment, and sometimes, as in the cases of Geert Wilders and Elizabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, they are hauled before courts.

As a result, people learn to engage in self-censorship or what Orwell called “crimestop.”  They won’t allow themselves to think certain thoughts or to explore certain avenues of inquiry.  This is particularly true in regard to Islam.  By now, just about everyone understands which thoughts about Islam are permissible and which are not.  As Andrew McCarthy points out, this results in a kind of “willful blindness” toward Islam.  Like the people in The Emperor’s New Clothes we deny the evidence of our own eyes when it conflicts with the official narrative.  In short, we prefer to remain ignorant.

In addition, elites in government, media, and education actively cover up for Islam.  The media doesn’t report even a hundredth of the negative stories about Islam and it does its best to deny any linkage between Islam and terrorism.  At the same time the media does everything it can to normalize Islam and make it seem as American as apple pie.  For example, a recent Huffington Post article likens Muhammad to George Washington.

The schools are engaged in a similar kind of whitewashing.  High school and college textbooks routinely define jihad as an “interior spiritual struggle” and describe Muslim conquests in the 7th and 8th centuries simply as “Muslim expansion.”  Moreover, many of these texts have a distinct bias against the West and in favor of Islam.  For example, while the Atlantic slave trade is described at length and in gruesome detail, the Arab slave trade which lasted longer and resulted in more deaths is rarely mentioned.  So, insofar as our children are learning anything about Islam, they are learning a Disneyfied version of it.

FP: What must we do to save our civilization?

Kilpatrick: We need to realize that we are in a high-stakes struggle similar in nature to the Cold War with Soviet-bloc communism. In this new cold war, our aim should go beyond simply resisting jihad. Our aim should be the defeat of Islam as an idea, because it’s an idea that we are fighting. The driving force behind Islamic aggression is Islamic theology, and if we want to be free of Islamic aggression, we need to discredit Islam as a total system. I disagree with the notion that the religious part of Islam can be separated from the political part. Although individual Muslims might be able to achieve that separation in their personal lives, in the Islamic faith the religious and the political are inextricably bound together.

So our overall aim should be to cast doubts in the minds of Muslims about the words and example of Muhammad. In other words, we should want Muslims to lose faith in Islam just as Soviet-era communists lost faith in communism.

Of course, that seems a tall order. It might be objected that Islamic beliefs are too deeply rooted to ever change. But “deeply rooted” beliefs are not always as deeply rooted as they seem. Forty years ago, the Catholic faith seemed deeply rooted in Ireland—but not so much today. More to the point, the deeply held beliefs of millions of Muslims began to erode under the regimes of secular strongmen in the Middle East and North Africa during the twentieth century. As Ali A. Allawi, a former Iraqi cabinet minister, observes, “It appeared to be only a matter of time before Islam would lose whatever hold it still had on the Muslim world.” The recent reemergence of supremacist Islam is largely a reaction to that loss of faith. We should do what we can to reawaken those doubts.

The other thing to keep in mind is that theologically and intellectually, Islam is a house of cards. It simply can’t stand up to the tests of critical reason and historical evidence that we apply to the Judeo-Christian revelation—which is precisely why we should apply them to an examination of Islam. Instead of engaging in non-challenging, non-offensive dialogue—a type of dialogue that only serves to legitimize Islam—Christian leaders ought instead to be challenging and questioning the tenets of Islam, particularly in view of the fact that Islam is built in part on a rejection of Christianity. Christian leaders can’t afford to delay taking a harder look at Islam because the Organization of the Islamic Cooperation is rapidly moving ahead with its project of imposing anti-blasphemy laws on the West—laws that are intended to prevent just such legitimate criticism.

FP: William Kilpatrick, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview.

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  • http://duanemiller.wordpress.com duanemiller

    Interesting analysis. But once Christianity is practically banished from the West, and it is just atheism and Islam left over, then what will happen? This to me is the most interesting question.

    • morkindie

      Islam is only slipping in the back door that Christianity left open. There is a culture of deferment to holy men.
      When people give this up, and realize that there is no spiritual vacuum, and religion does not promote morality and a religious reason is not a reason at all and no excuse, then Islam will follow along with all the other religions that have vanished throughout the ages.
      And will be replaced with reason instead of more superstition.

      • Mo_

        Christianity is not "superstition".

        Secularism does not promote morality. Within secularism, there is no concept as "morality" to begin with. If there is not objective standard for right and wrong, then how is morality even possible as an idea? It's all personal preference, or what the majority decides.

        • Joe Cogan

          Please explain how claims of a virgin birth, walking on water, and rising from the dead differ from superstition, as it is far from obvious.

          • Bartemais

            I would take the historical claims of the "eyewitness" accounts of the Bible over the irrational Idea that the universe created itself out of nothing and then proceeded to organize itself to higher and higher levels, and all of this without an intelligent and all powerful designer.

          • JoJoJams

            Invitro fertilization – science fact. Walking on water – easy if its ice… ;-) Raising the dead – happens in hospitals all the time – again, science fact. And what say you about Joshua and the battle of Jericho, where the God of the jews told them to march around Jericho, periodically screaming and blowing horns, for days….until what we know of in this modern age, mechanical resonance – finally brought the walls down.

          • CatholicLayman

            Miracles are rational because God can make these happen. Virgin birth, walking on water, rising from the dead are miracles made possible by the power of God. This is perfectly rational. Superstition, on the other hand is irrational, just as atheism is.

    • Questions

      If you think that Christianity is even close to being "banished" from the West, you need a serious reality check.

  • Jason Jordan

    very ignorant and superficial analysis, you might want to call upon heavier intellectual weights than this if you want to stop the inevitable decline of Christian theology..

    • Craig

      Jason, your comment helps no one. What, specifically, is “ignorant” in the above interview? Perhaps you should read the book and address specific issues with well-reasoned arguments. Otherwise, you risk appearing as an unreasonable crank. I assume that was not your intent.

    • Zam

      Basically, I think you are correct. But, check out the state of Texas–a large percentage of the schools in Texas are now teaching students about some muslim dude named allah. Where did that come from, I wonder? Anyway, these schools be teaching their students this allah muslim dude is "Almighty God"–
      http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/texas-teaching-allah-i

  • Gamaliel

    I am an athiest of Jewish background but feel very threatened by Islam and am sympathetic to Christians although many of the Christians being persecuted in the Middle East our anti-semites. I am conservative in outlook and share almost all the points of view expressed in Frontpage Magazine and many of those expressed in Worldnetdaily which is a Christian online magazine. I think Christians make a big self serving mistake to believe that the only way people are moral is if they are believers. It is true there are many immoral left wing athiests and so I can see how Christians can get that idea but there are athiests who are on your side even though they don't share your religious beliefs. There is one religious belief I share which is that God gave man the knowledge of the difference between right and wrong. Of course people can get confused about it by listening to those who preach moral relativism or Islamic beliefs, but there is a gut understanding that people have about right and wrong. I believe in it but it appears that Christians like this author don't.

    • BobC

      "I am an athiest of Jewish background"

      "There is one religious belief I share which is that God gave man the knowledge of the difference between right and wrong."

      You're not an atheist, mister.

    • Western Spirit

      The biggest and best monkey in the cage is still a monkey. That’s why it’s not who you are or what your not it’s what you do with do with what you’ve got that gives meaning to life.

      To those who hate religion that’s what a sound religion teaches and is a sensible way to live. “God is God and I’m not,” Is also truth and a lantern to our feet that will keep us from stumbling when we hear “I am God” from the new age crowd that sounds uplifting but is garbage, a narcissistic religion for a narcissistic people.

      Gamaliel, it’s true that many Christians hate Jews but those who’ve grasped the truth in Christianity. Like it was God’s will to crucify Christ to serve His purpose in redeeming humanity and embrace Jews as chosen decidedly do not hate them.

      So we have to pick religions for the truth we find in them rather than slavishly following a pattern we’ve inherited or adopted that may or may not serve our human needs and best interest. But it’s folly to reject religion entirely because the truth is we need to have a purpose in life that transcends us. My Jewish husband was an atheist when I married him but he died a believer.

      It’s true that some Jews are a little hard to take but the rest of humanity is not off the hook on that one, either. While yet other Jews are easy to swallow and go down the gullet as smooth as chicken or watermelon at a hot Sunday afternoon picnic.

      Anyway Jews and Christians are joined at the hip whether we like it or not and if we want to survive with our religions intact we should start acting like it because Islam is out to get us.

    • Pal Joey

      "There is one religious belief I share which is that God gave man the knowledge of the difference between right and wrong."

      Your statement is interesting. As I read it, G-d did not give this to man, man stole it in a direct act of disobedience.

    • kaz

      i am an atheist of catholic origin. i will not be counted among atheists because i do not talk about it publicly. unlike the loud mouth atheists who get news coverage, i do not hate religionists, no not object to school prayer, religious artifacts in public buildings, etc. it would of course be easier to like religionists if they werent so harsh in their condemnation of people of my belief (or lack thereof). the christians that i associate with are not antisemitic at all. in fact, they are more reliable supporters of the jewish republic than our own american jews, who seem positively islamic in their opposition to those who oppose islam. if i had any influence at all over our suicidal national tendencies, we would invite every muslim to go live in some country that they do not hate.

  • Ben

    Good men will do good things. Bad men will do bad things. But it takes religion to make a good man do bad things.

    • Mo_

      And who decides who is "good" or "bad"? You?

      • Western Spirit

        That sounds smart but It's such thinking that sends us slinking to Gommorrah because the center cannot hold.

    • Ghostwriter

      Not all religion,Ben. Just the fanatics.

  • BobC

    "I use the word 'atheism' in the title as shorthand for both atheists and militant secularists, most of whom tend to be on the left."

    "the left has formed a tacit alliance with radical Islam against the West."

    It just seems like most atheists are "on the left" because liberal crybabies make a lot of noise. The truth is the vast majority of America's 30 million atheists are not liberals and they do not suck up to Muslims.

  • Robin

    I think Kilpatrick just explained why so much of education "reform" globally is centered around creating false beliefs grounded in emotion about the history of the West. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/changing-the-… is based on repeated references to targeting student's filtering perceptions.

    The 21st century and highly effective and likely to be permanent without challenge to Orwell's crimestop. The Statist Schemers do seem to find his and Huxley's works to be revelatory guidebooks for places to intervene noetically.

    It also means we are mentally unilaterally disarming all over the West at the insistence of UNESCO and its agenda for cultural evolution while Islam teaches we should be subjugated to their political, economic, and social system. Pretending to be just another monotheistic religion.

  • Beth

    "cultural relativism, or multiculturalism, impairs" a person's "ability to tell friend from foe"

    Sounds like a good signature (think I'll use it)

    Jamie, I think this is one of the most important interviews you have given. And it makes me sad that there are not hundreds (if not, thousands) commenting. And for the most part, of the commenters here, it sounds as though they are not 'getting it' even still.

    "FP: What must we do to save our civilization?"

    Preach the Word of God.

    A good place to start would be (and we don't need the Vatican or any other to do this):

    Do Not Lie

    Do not Steal

    Do not Cheat

    Do no Murder

    Do not Covet

    (end of Christian Carnal Commands – There are no more after those)

    But for now, the enemy has the bullhorn (media).

    Our only hope at this point is:

    Zec 8:16 These are the things that ye shall do; Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbour

    Eph 4:25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour

    And we have reached the point where the truth about Islam can not be left out when we do:

    Koran:

    047.004 – Beheadings

    033.052 – Gang Rape of female 'infidels'

    005.033 – Crucifixions

    008.067 – Treason (perjury in a non-muslim court is commanded when defending islam)

    033.061 – Genocide "without mercy"

    005.041 – Racism

    .

  • Guest

    "It simply can’t stand up to the tests of critical reason and historical evidence"
    This is certainly true of Islam but equally true of Christianity. I agree Islam is much more dangerous at this point in history.

    • JacksonPearson

      "This is certainly true of Islam but equally true of Christianity."
      Wrong.
      There's no comparison between Islam and Christianity. There never has been, and never will be. Christianity stands for love, life, healing, and salvation of the soul. Meanwhile, Islam stands for hate, punishment, death and destruction. The two are direct, 180 degree opposites.

    • Western Canadian

      False, the historical support for the existance of the one called Christ, is impressive. The new and old testiments are both reliable for historical reference.

      • Western Canadian

        Note, should say for general historical reference. Later books much more so.

    • servant

      Absolutely, unequivocally WRONG!! The Lord Jesus Christ and authentic biblical Christianity can stand up under the most scrutinizing of tests and in fact it has, over and over again!! Even Atheists who have seriously investigated the claims of Christ have been wonderfully converted to HIM! If you were to investigate the Resurrection of Christ, you would find that there were more than 500 people to whom He appeared after His Resurrection. Even in our system of laws, it takes less than a handful of witnesses to get a conviction. Yet Christ appeared to over 500 people after His resurrection. It is the one irrefutable fact in all of Human history! Christ is who He says He is – the Way, the Truth and the Life and no man comes to the Father except by HIM!! While it is true that some things have been done in the name of Christianity, such as the inquisition and the crusades, those things had nothing all to do with the Lord Jesus Christ but rather apostate Roman Popes!! Christ was and is the Sinless Lamb of God! Islam on the other hand is an evil, idolatrous religion!

    • CatholicLayman

      "It simply can’t stand up to the tests of critical reason and historical evidence" True of Islam? Yes. True of Christianity? Dream on…

  • morkindie

    Atheists and secularists are no friends of Islam.

    • KarshiKhanabad

      They are no friends of traditional Christianity & Western values either, and often make common cause with Islamists against what both regard as a common enemy.

      • Greg Lou

        As an Atheist who writes a lot on the topic, I find more often it's Christianity and Islam treating atheism as a common enemy. Atheism is currently the greatest threat to all theistic ideologies.

  • morning star

    While this iks a very enlightening article, you are only telling part of the spiritual story. In 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 there is a description of how the devil deceives those people who will not receive God’s truths and be saved. Then there is a description of how the man of lawlessness get his spiritual power from the Devil to work wonders and deceive people and s pread his rebellion against Godand spread the mystery of lawlessness across many areas.

    What we are seeing in the world is how the spirit of lawlessness has taken over people and every who is rebelling against God==including the above described people.

    The answer is found in spiritual warfare described in Ephesians 6;10-18–BIND THE DEMONIC FORCES IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST AND THROUGH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT CAST THEM INTO THE ABYSS/LAKE OF FIRE TO STAY THERE FOREVER.

    This tactic should applied to all those people who are under the demonic spells of the spirit of lawlessness that seeks to destroy all of God’s influence in Western civilozation.

    Sure we need to fight the information war, but we also need to fight the war on the supernatural level and then we can push back the rising tide of all this anti-God fascism!

  • Rosa

    @ Author – You need to go back and re-read Islam to know more about the Prophet Jesus' (peace be upon him).

    Muslims also believe that Jesus will return to earth near the Day of Judgment to restore justice and to defeat Masih ad-Dajjal ("the false messiah", also known as the Anti-Christ.

    I know that you don;t believe in this. Those who will live at the time, they will come to know who was God and who was Apostle.

    The world knows what did Christians do to their religions. Sample this "churches for sale" in Google search.

    • Mo_

      The "Jesus" in Islam bears zero resemblance to the Jesus portrayed in the Bible.

      The world knows what Islam does to human beings and to the world.

      I will not submit!

    • Indus Valley

      Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 43: Kitab-ul-`Ilm (Book of Knowledge), Hâdith Number 656:
      Narrated Abu Hurairah: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the CROSS, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts)"….Sorry this is definitely not the Jesus about whom its mentioned in the Bible…..No Christian believes that Jesus will come to break the cross & kill the pigs. Whom are you fooling here?????

    • Western Canadian

      Rosa, the people on this board know Islam for the vicious cult that it is. A large number of us know what your sick and twisted version of Christ is supposed to do when he returns… behaviour typical of islamic blood lust.

      Some churches in the west have betrayed their flocks and themselves, while others are growing, especially in the third world. And while you are using google, suggest you try ‘mulsim mass murder throughout history’ Over 20,000 murder attacks since 9/11. You should be ashamed.

    • Western Canadian

      Rosa, the people on this board know Islam for the vicious cult that it is. A large number of us know what your sick and twisted version of Christ is supposed to do when he returns… behaviour typical of islamic blood lust. ____Some churches in the west have betrayed their flocks and themselves, while others are growing, especially in the third world. And while you are using google, suggest you try 'mulsim mass murder throughout history' Over 20,000 murder attacks since 9/11. You should be ashamed.

  • http://aftabkhan.blog.com Aftab Khan

    A biased analysis to creat mistrust and animosity among Muslims and Chrsitians. Quran is not a book of history, it mentions Propeht Muhammad (peace be uponn him) by name only five times, no direct mention of his wife family friends. Jesus Christ mentioned 25 times. Personalities are only mentioned to draw lessons. Islam stands up to the test of reason, difficult by Christianity to justify Trinity, a Chrurch doctrine, there is no clear verse in the bible which support the doctrine of ‘Trinity’, except 1John; 5:7,8. In the foot not of this verse in ‘New International Version Bible’ it is written; ‘not found in any Greek manuscript before the sixteen century. Dr C.I, Scofield, D.D. backed by eight other D.D.’s opine: “It is generally agreed that this verse has no manuscript authority and has been inserted.”The fundamentalist Christians still retain this fabrication whereas; in all the modern translations including the Revised Standard Version (RSV) this pious deceit has been unceremoniously expunged. [see http://wp.me/PCgrB-cS ]. Comparing Islam with Communism is a fallacy, Communism could not surivive even for 70 years. The only workable way is to coexist peacefully, let the people choose their faith freely: "Let there be no coercion in matter sof faith"[Quran[2:256].

    • Mary Sue

      The Quran is basically Bible Fan Fiction, dude.

    • Indio Viejo

      Unfortunately for you most people on this site know more of Islam than probably 90% of Muslims. Your people are highly illiterate and manipulated by their clerics. So do not try to sell the lie about there being no compulsion in religion, coming from a satanic cult which beheads apostates and forces Christian conversion since the beginning of Mohamed's malignancy(P*ss be upon him).

    • Indus Valley

      "Let there be no coercion in matters of faith"……I urge you to preach these 'wonderful' words in Iran, Egypt, Pakistan & all the Muslim majority countries where kidnapping girls & forcibly converting them to Islam are a normal thing, not to us. About Mohamed mentioned in Quran only 5 times but Jesus mentioned million times cannot even convince a fool leave alone the people here because its totally irrelevant in a theological point of view about Quran's stand on Jesus.The so called peaceful Quranic verse that you quoted is abrogated by more violent verses. Taqqiya detected !!!!!!

    • 11bravo

      Khan, have you read the koran? I got through about 2/3 of it, it was a JOKE!!
      I could have done a better job if I wanted to start my own religion, and write a basic texts.
      Islam is a total sham, deadly to all who believe that filth.

  • KarshiKhanabad

    Nice try with the Mohammed quote while he was in a weakened position in Mecca before his Hijra. After he built up his forces in Medina, Mohammed declared, "Whoever leaves his Islamic faith, then kill him."

    "Islam is as Islam does."

  • http://twitter.com/diogenesusa007 @diogenesusa007

    Perhaps the readers will have clearer perspective on Islam and the remainder of the world's population, by reading a recently published book entitled;

    Allah of the Qur'an and the God of the Bible "Are They the Same?" The Verdict Is Yours.

    This comprehensive comparison leaves little doubt concerning the goal of those that follow the teachings of the Qur'an, and those that truly follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

    This useful resource can be found at amazon.com and is based on referenced scriptural passages of both the Qur'an and the Bible.

    To understand the Muslim one must understand their theology that guides their actions.

    The same author will release a new book soon entitled ;

    What Islam Does Not Want You to Know "Understanding the Muslim"

  • kaz

    you may see christianity as a bulwark against the islamic tide, but in my observation, christians are the easiest to defeat. with a few notable exceptions, the history of islam vs christianity has been one debacle after another. now, the christians dont even pretend to resist the islamic plague. they sprinkle perfume on it, smear lipstick on it, call it a great religion of peace, wring their hands, and talk about those wonderful nice moderate muslims, as if they ever actually met one. they are much more eager to combat "islamophobia" than to resist the islamic tsunami..if all we have is christianity to stop islam, we better get our prayer rugs, because as a fortress against islam, christianity has no walls, no oil, no guts, and no will to survive. those wild eyed slobbering muslim fanatics actually believe in their religion. christians dont.

    • Western Canadian

      Your effort to compress 1400 plus years of history into a single paragraph is neither admirable or successful. Islam is only successful due to brutality, lies, betrayal, and a vicious hatred of most of the human race combined with a rejection of any notion of rules of warfare. When the west wakes up, it wins. It will hopefully be getting the quisling bastards out of office, out of the media, and out of the way very soon, and waking up.

    • Greg Lou

      "…if all we have is christianity to stop islam, we better get our prayer rugs.."

      We have something better… education. Unfortunately it will probably also take Christianity with it.

      Sorry.

  • Ghostwriter

    There are Christians who do resist. They're not just being listened to.

  • Coptic John

    "If they want to avoid the fate of Christians in North Africa, the Middle East, and various other Muslim regions they need to get a better grasp on what Islam really teaches"
    What happened to eastern Christians was under the sword of Islam, but what is happening now in the west is under multiculturalism and freedom as there are some people don't learn from history, then they are doomed to repeat it… but the question is we have survived Islam for 1400, can you make it?

  • Glennd1

    Reductionist nonsense. Just because something is unintelligible by you doesn't mean it isn't intelligent. I can't believe this kind of account can be written without taking into account what we actually know about law and how it arose in different societies, and how it functions in society today. Common-law has its basis firmly in the mores and beliefs of a community, and law gets its authority from the moral sense of society, not the other way around. Simple legislative acts do no equate to a valid law that comports with a morality we all understand and agree to.

    This sentiment about right and wrong developed well before a God was discovered by a bunch of illiterate Nomads wandering in the desert. It also developed independently in other societies and times without any involved from Jew or Christian. In fact, this Christian morality reflects a deeper, transcendent human morality. Like any behavior, there are times when it won't happen and humans will also make mistakes, but that doesn't mean that morality cannot exist without the God of Abraham. It's culturally ignorant to suggest so, in fact.

    The arrogance of Christians today amazes me. Less and less of your dogma and beliefs are believable by educated, cosmopolitan people, yet you claim vast privilege for yourselves and your faith, that we wouldn't know right from wrong without Christianity. Do any of you realize how arrogant this all is?

    • Western Canadian

      I would suggest you make some effort to study those you are smeared as "illiterate Nomads wandering in the desert"…. the level of tech may have been bronze age or earlier, but the level of sophistication in ethics, knowlege of human weakness and behaviour, is amazing.

      "The arrogance of Christians today amazes me. Less and less of your dogma and beliefs are believable by educated, cosmopolitan people, yet you claim vast privilege for yourselves and your faith, that we wouldn't know right from wrong without Christianity. Do any of you realize how arrogant this all is? "

      Your arrogance is staggering, as is your ignorance. The 'educated, cosmopolitan people", those like you we may assume, are so ignorant of the subject, that if they were capable of being ashamed of themselves, they should be. I could suggest a couple of books for you, demonstrating how what you out of ignorance think you know about christianity (I am not one, by the way), is a load of utter ignorant rubbish, but why bother, you wouldln't have the guts or honour to read them. You and your own dogma are lower than those you have just smeared.

      • Glennd1

        Are you really so stupid that you don't know the tribes that became the Jews were illiterate and pretty uncivilized compared to say the societies that existed in China and Mezo America at that time of Abraham? You are plain and simply wrong. The Greeks and others were far more advanced – but the desert nomads who came to be known as Jews centuries later were – and remained for sometime – illiterate poly-theists. That you don't know this, and in fact, that you deign to correct me when you are wrong, is kind of incredible. Over time, the study of ethics, the Talmud (along with it's perversions and many bizzare aspects) and Jewish thought emerged, for example, Maimonides, but that was not present at the time of Abraham. You conflate a later time with the time of revelation, but hey, religious people lie all the time about what facts are, I'm quite used to it.

        Worse yet, you assume I know nothing of religion or Christianity when in fact I was steeped in it for 30 years of my life, and pretty happily. I found much to enjoy in Catholicism and at times in my life was an active member of my parish. I simply got honest with myself and realized I actually didn't believe a word of it, and at that point could not continue. I guarantee you I'm better read than you on these topics and the history of the various religions in the mideast – so please, don't bother recommending texts to me. Rather, please do the world a favor and never vote or reproduce again, okay?

        • Ghostwriter

          You don't like religion,Glennd1,that's your choice. I'm not religious myself,but I'm not going to denigrate it for my own amusement,like you do.

    • CatholicLayman

      Just fyi, there are many well educated people, even with advanced degrees, who are Christian. I'm sorry, but you are simply flattering and deluding yourself by thinking otherwise as you do now. In any case, the beauty of truth is this: whether truth is believed by the intelligent, by the ignorant, or by the gullible, it is still truth and they do well to believe it. The same could not be said to the supposedly intelligent and self-righteous who reject truth, particularly divine revelation. To their own detriment, they reject truth – particularly divine revelation.

  • Albert Himoe

    As I understand it, Kilpatrick's complaint against atheists is the most of them are on the left and many are moral relativists. Apparently his beef here is not against atheism per se, that is the non-belief in the existence of gods, which is perfectly compatible with a belief in the moral superiority of Western values, individual rights etc. Also, the fact the Islam incorporates a belief of fantasies a devine origin for its evils is large part of what makes Islam such a threat in the world. Atheists would do well to concentrate their efforts againts the most threatening divine fantasy, Islam, instead of the more benign divine fantasies of Christianity and Judaism.

    • CatholicLayman

      "Divine" or "divinity" exclusively refers to God. The evil precepts of Islam (i.e., murder, rape, wife-beating, deceitfulness, pedophilia, etc…) are not of divine origin. Rather, they are of diabolical origin. But because Islam blasphemously attributes these evil precepts to God, Islam has thereby demonized God and divinized the Devil.

  • Jason

    Everything mentioned in this article has a valid point and has to be taken seriously or face disaster in the long run not only for the present generation but the future generation of the west.The west should think more of its cultural heritage and the values that built the west. and ignorance or lukewarn attitudes will end up in some tragedy. Wake up before it is to late and the threat is already at your door step.

  • ravi

    What a great interview, the comments just made so much sense. I will definitely buy the book and share with friends. This is a serious issue in todays western societ an issue which cant be ignored.

    • Glennd1

      Just for a second I want you to imagine you aren't a Christian – do actually think such bigotry is sensible to the many of us who aren't Christian? Are you so closed minded that you think there is no room on earth for the rest of us, that we are all morally defective? What a joke, no wonder our country is circling the bowl.

  • Claude Pariseau

    to Glennd1, i think that the meaning here is not that atheists do not have morality, for the fact is that humans are social animals and that we see ourselves in the other, that is if we save someone else from death , let s say, we save ourselves in a reciprocal way ( Joseph Cambell, the power of myth and Ernest Becker , the denial fof death )
    This being said, where the believers have an edge in courage over the atheists is that death is not final, faith in an afterlife gives them more of the will to go forward and take a stand.

  • Walter Sieruk

    Let face the facts, Which is that Christianty ans Islam have little to nothing in common. Just to give two of many examples of this is first, the in contradiction with Islam Christianity teaches that Jesus is God and not just a prophet. For example, John 1:1-3. Romans 9:5. Colossians 1:15-17. Hebrews 1:8. First John 5:20. all show that Jesus is God. Furthermore, all one has to do do is compare Isaiah 45;22,23 with Philippians 2:5-11 to find out that Jesus is God. Likewise by compairing Pslam 89:8,9. with Matthew 8:23-27. Also, to the compair the New Testament with itself, as in John 5;22 with Romans 14:12. will further comfirm the Jesus is God. Second , unlike Islam , Christianity teaches that Jesus did ,in fact , go to the cross, die then was buried and then rose from the dead. Matthew 27:32-65 and also the whole chapher of Matthew 28 will also comfirm this. The other gospels will likewise comfirm this. Moverover, First Corinthians 15:1-8 also shows this. These are just a few of the many way tha Christianty and Islam greatly differ. In short, Christianity and Islam have litle to nothing in common. To pretend otherwise, as some do, is only taking part in a hoax.

  • Andy Lewis

    Rubbish. Google "Pat Condell" to find out why.

  • Dajjal

    When the quran says, at sura 21.33 and 36.40 that the sun has an orbit, Imams falsely claim this is a great revelation, because Muhammad knew the sun had an orbit in the galaxy. But the quran is actually saying the sun orbits the earth.
    Hadith Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421: Narrated Abu Dhar:
    The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time of sunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels) till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again, and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itself but its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course but it will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it will rise in the west.
    if the sun changed direction in its orbit in the galaxy it would make no difference to the sun rising in the east, because it is the rotation of the earth that causes the appearance of the sun in the east.

  • Barnaba

    As an Egyptian Christian born and raised in a moslim country, you sir are one of the few that get it. Your analysis is sopt on. God bless you and keep up the good work.