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		<title>By: Erudite Mavin</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/jeff-ludwig/how-textbooks-push-children-to-the-left/comment-page-1/#comment-5265055</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erudite Mavin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Aug 2013 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually see our wonderful founders in the time and place they lived.
I happen to be one of those who take on the all or nothing crowd aka PaulBots who blame America first and place the
founders in todays times thus having no understanding 
of 17th and 18th century history.
The founders knew their enemy would take weeks 
to cross the ocean in their Man of War ship and a cannon
ball would take out a building or a group of men.
Today the enemy can hit America in well under an hour with a missile, taking out a major city or in seconds by a terrorist  on our streets.
Too many in this country don&#039;t get this and think we should make nice or blame America and that will take
care of it 
Have ancestors who fought in the early wars of the 1600s in America to the French &amp; Indian War to 
my over 13 5th great grandfathers who fought in the Revolutionary War starting with Bunker Hill to 3rd great grandfathers who fought in the Union Army in the Civil War, one shot through the right thigh in the Battle of Shiloh, to WWI, WWII, Korea, Nam and several this minute fighting against Radical Islam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually see our wonderful founders in the time and place they lived.<br />
I happen to be one of those who take on the all or nothing crowd aka PaulBots who blame America first and place the<br />
founders in todays times thus having no understanding<br />
of 17th and 18th century history.<br />
The founders knew their enemy would take weeks<br />
to cross the ocean in their Man of War ship and a cannon<br />
ball would take out a building or a group of men.<br />
Today the enemy can hit America in well under an hour with a missile, taking out a major city or in seconds by a terrorist  on our streets.<br />
Too many in this country don&#8217;t get this and think we should make nice or blame America and that will take<br />
care of it<br />
Have ancestors who fought in the early wars of the 1600s in America to the French &amp; Indian War to<br />
my over 13 5th great grandfathers who fought in the Revolutionary War starting with Bunker Hill to 3rd great grandfathers who fought in the Union Army in the Civil War, one shot through the right thigh in the Battle of Shiloh, to WWI, WWII, Korea, Nam and several this minute fighting against Radical Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: seewithyourowneyes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Aug 2013 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry if I blindsided you.  I do believe the exasperation in my reply was very disproportionate to any problems I had with your post.  I think my exasperation was cumulative, having read a lot of anti-Americanism that day.  Your post was just the straw that broke the camel&#039;s back.
I do stand by my arguments, though,( even if I should have posted them as a reply to a comment other than yours.)  I think we too often judge the American founders by modern standards instead of by the standards of their times.  And I don&#039;t think that position &quot;takes my post to the edge of a cliff.&quot;  as you put it.  Unless, of course, there exists some sort of unforgivable-failure-to-demonize-Wasps cliff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry if I blindsided you.  I do believe the exasperation in my reply was very disproportionate to any problems I had with your post.  I think my exasperation was cumulative, having read a lot of anti-Americanism that day.  Your post was just the straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back.<br />
I do stand by my arguments, though,( even if I should have posted them as a reply to a comment other than yours.)  I think we too often judge the American founders by modern standards instead of by the standards of their times.  And I don&#8217;t think that position &#8220;takes my post to the edge of a cliff.&#8221;  as you put it.  Unless, of course, there exists some sort of unforgivable-failure-to-demonize-Wasps cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tagalog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your take on the history of the Pilgrims&#039; first year in the New World is correct.  Communal farming was abandoned when something like 1/2 to 1/3 of the original settlers starved or died of famine-related disease.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your take on the history of the Pilgrims&#8217; first year in the New World is correct.  Communal farming was abandoned when something like 1/2 to 1/3 of the original settlers starved or died of famine-related disease.</p>
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		<title>By: tagalog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This comment confuses the Pilgrims with the Puritans.

Puritans were Congregationalists who agreed that the Church of England was a legitimate Christian church.

Pilgrims were all Separatists, also Congregationalists, who protested that the Anglican Church was NOT legitimate.  They and the Puritans obviously had a doctrinal dispute.  For that belief, they were persecuted under James I.  They left England for Holland, then emigrated to Plimouth Plantation, later the town of Plymouth.

Puritans arrived in the area near Boston - north of Plimouth Plantation - about ten or twenty years later.  Puritans, having the support of the British crown (because they were OK with the Anglican Church) had the colonial charter, and became more numerous and politically powerful.

Plymouth was a Pilgrim town, settled by them and populated by them.  Pilgrims and Puritans did not mix well, although they did business with one another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment confuses the Pilgrims with the Puritans.</p>
<p>Puritans were Congregationalists who agreed that the Church of England was a legitimate Christian church.</p>
<p>Pilgrims were all Separatists, also Congregationalists, who protested that the Anglican Church was NOT legitimate.  They and the Puritans obviously had a doctrinal dispute.  For that belief, they were persecuted under James I.  They left England for Holland, then emigrated to Plimouth Plantation, later the town of Plymouth.</p>
<p>Puritans arrived in the area near Boston &#8211; north of Plimouth Plantation &#8211; about ten or twenty years later.  Puritans, having the support of the British crown (because they were OK with the Anglican Church) had the colonial charter, and became more numerous and politically powerful.</p>
<p>Plymouth was a Pilgrim town, settled by them and populated by them.  Pilgrims and Puritans did not mix well, although they did business with one another.</p>
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		<title>By: cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cathy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 04:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Public School Promotest 5 Pillars of Islam
August 19, 2013
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/public-school-promotes-5-pillars-of-islam.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public School Promotest 5 Pillars of Islam<br />
August 19, 2013<br />
<a href="http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/public-school-promotes-5-pillars-of-islam.html" rel="nofollow">http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/public-school-promotes-5-pillars-of-islam.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: bluffcreek1967</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bluffcreek1967]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 04:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The French Protestant reformer, John Calvin, was far from perfect. I consider myself a &#039;five-point Calvinist&#039; or reformed in my soteriology, but even I would not agree with everything Calvin practiced nor uttered. His treatment of the heretic Servetus was admittedly wrong. 


However, the article you referenced is extremely biased and one-sided. I don&#039;t have the time to go into it now, but you might want to read a little wider on the person of Calvin before accepting hook-line-and-sinker what the article espouses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The French Protestant reformer, John Calvin, was far from perfect. I consider myself a &#8216;five-point Calvinist&#8217; or reformed in my soteriology, but even I would not agree with everything Calvin practiced nor uttered. His treatment of the heretic Servetus was admittedly wrong. </p>
<p>However, the article you referenced is extremely biased and one-sided. I don&#8217;t have the time to go into it now, but you might want to read a little wider on the person of Calvin before accepting hook-line-and-sinker what the article espouses.</p>
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		<title>By: bluffcreek1967</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bluffcreek1967]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 04:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, indeed, we have a pseudo-intellectual humanist making pronouncements in religious garb. I have neither the time nor patience to reply in-depth to your rambling rant, but I will say this: Go right ahead and trust in the mere traditions of men and in the power of religious bureaucracy. But I will place my trust in Christ alone and in the Scriptures which stand far above all man-made traditions. &quot;Thy word is truth&quot; (John 17:17)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, indeed, we have a pseudo-intellectual humanist making pronouncements in religious garb. I have neither the time nor patience to reply in-depth to your rambling rant, but I will say this: Go right ahead and trust in the mere traditions of men and in the power of religious bureaucracy. But I will place my trust in Christ alone and in the Scriptures which stand far above all man-made traditions. &#8220;Thy word is truth&#8221; (John 17:17)</p>
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		<title>By: bluffcreek1967</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bluffcreek1967]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 04:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s nothing &quot;ridiculous&quot; nor &quot;heretical&quot; in the biblical concept of &#039;sola scripture.&#039; The texts supporting this concept are very clear throughout both the OT and NT. It&#039;s one thing to say I don&#039;t agree with &#039;sola scripture,&#039; it&#039;s quite another to disprove it or to demonstrate that it&#039;s a &quot;heretical&quot; doctrine. 


The Puritans who left England were far from perfect, but they sought to be faithful to the scriptures as they understood them. It was the Church of England that was, in many ways, heretical in that it departed from apostolic doctrines and simple NT ecclesiology many years earlier. The Puritans, at least, tried to return to apostolic simplicity as opposed to continuing the mere traditions of men which had ravaged both the Roman Catholic Church as well as the Church of England.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing &#8220;ridiculous&#8221; nor &#8220;heretical&#8221; in the biblical concept of &#8216;sola scripture.&#8217; The texts supporting this concept are very clear throughout both the OT and NT. It&#8217;s one thing to say I don&#8217;t agree with &#8216;sola scripture,&#8217; it&#8217;s quite another to disprove it or to demonstrate that it&#8217;s a &#8220;heretical&#8221; doctrine. </p>
<p>The Puritans who left England were far from perfect, but they sought to be faithful to the scriptures as they understood them. It was the Church of England that was, in many ways, heretical in that it departed from apostolic doctrines and simple NT ecclesiology many years earlier. The Puritans, at least, tried to return to apostolic simplicity as opposed to continuing the mere traditions of men which had ravaged both the Roman Catholic Church as well as the Church of England.</p>
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		<title>By: James Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How could people who did not even know how diseases spread or what caused them use &quot;germ warfare&quot;... cummon for crying out loud...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could people who did not even know how diseases spread or what caused them use &#8220;germ warfare&#8221;&#8230; cummon for crying out loud&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 03:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not even reside in America, but am American, and my kid does not go to public schools here. This is how bad the taint of indoctrination in American public schools has left in the mouths of many people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not even reside in America, but am American, and my kid does not go to public schools here. This is how bad the taint of indoctrination in American public schools has left in the mouths of many people.</p>
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		<title>By: Erudite Mavin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erudite Mavin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t understand what my post was about.
Your assumption took your post to the edge of a cliff.

As one who had over 150 9th great grandparents who arrived in New England in 1620s and 30s and over 75 9th grandparents who arrived in mid 1620s in New Amsterdam, now called New York and have studied that period along with my over 100 scholarly books on 1600 to 1700s, and my  over 300 scholarly books on European History to the early middle ages.  Have studied this over 40 years.  Am also a member of the DAR having researched over 13 5th great grandfathers who fought in the Revolutionary War.

No one was comparing Puritans with Muslims.  
Many of my relatives who are descendants  of these same ancestors have been fighting in this war from day one and several are in the Middle East this minute fighting.

Wonder how many here have done what I have, be part of a Republican group and countered Hamas - Muslims marches and rallies. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t understand what my post was about.<br />
Your assumption took your post to the edge of a cliff.</p>
<p>As one who had over 150 9th great grandparents who arrived in New England in 1620s and 30s and over 75 9th grandparents who arrived in mid 1620s in New Amsterdam, now called New York and have studied that period along with my over 100 scholarly books on 1600 to 1700s, and my  over 300 scholarly books on European History to the early middle ages.  Have studied this over 40 years.  Am also a member of the DAR having researched over 13 5th great grandfathers who fought in the Revolutionary War.</p>
<p>No one was comparing Puritans with Muslims.<br />
Many of my relatives who are descendants  of these same ancestors have been fighting in this war from day one and several are in the Middle East this minute fighting.</p>
<p>Wonder how many here have done what I have, be part of a Republican group and countered Hamas &#8211; Muslims marches and rallies. </p>
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		<title>By: JMJ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JMJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John P., Thank-you for proving with your words the very truth of my words about the ridiculous and probably heretical concept of &#039;sola scriptura&#039;. The Apostles clearly taught at the very beginning of the Faith that it&#039;s the Spirit moving amongst the faithful that guides the Church - the Book is, at best, the sacred history of our faith and the repository of ideas and beliefs that are, or at one time or another were, current amongst us.


The Bible is not inerrant for it is the Word of God filtered through the fallible minds of fallible men who had God given free will and therefore the freedom to listen and write whilst exercising their own prejudices and preconceptions. That is, and has always been from earliest Christian times, the teaching of all the mainstream churches, and so our Holy Book must be read whilst uttering prayers that the Spirit of God will guide our thoughts whilst we are so reading.


The strange idea that Scripture as embodied in a book is somehow magically the only thing that a Christian needs in order to understand God is of very recent invention and  would be a completely baffling and rather silly idea to those who knew Christ before His sacrifice, as well as to those who were present at the first Pentecost when the Spirit descended on them and moved them. They had no Bible to guide them, just the Spirit that moved them, yet they took our Faith out into the world and brought God&#039;s love to our planet.


Furthermore, there is no consensus amongst Christians as to what exactly constitutes the Bible - even the great Protestant reformers (amongst many, many others), Calvin, Zwingli and Luther that is, believed that some of its books were definitely not Scriptural and shouldn&#039;t be included. To this day there are many Christians who doubt the Spiritual authenticity of some many of the books, and it is as easy to make a case against the inclusion of most of them as it is to make a case for their inclusion. The Book of Revelation, which book you mention as &#039;Revelations&#039;, was one of the books about which the Protestant reformers and many in the mainstream churches of the time had grave doubts. Even to this day most Christians doubt the Spiritual authenticity of that particular Book.


By the way, Jesus was more than just a man - he was also God (one part of our Triune God, if you remember your Creed and your Catechism), which is a fact that you seem to have forgotten, but I may be wronging you there. However, the circular argument that you believe that the Bible is correct because the Bible says that it is correct is just plain silly, as is your assertion that &quot;It doesn&#039;t matter that the majority of England or even the whole world doesn&#039;t believe it&quot;, which statement reminds me of nothing more than the overheard comment of a proud mother at her incompetent son&#039;s passing out parade - &quot;Oh, look at my little Johnny; everyone is marching out of step except him.&quot;
The Apostles themselves instituted almost all (I say almost, please note, all) of the practices that the mainstream churches use today. From the church in India founded by Thomas, to the church in Egypt founded by Mark, to the church in Rome founded by Peter, to the church in Constantinople founded by Paul, to the church in Jerusalem founded by James, to the Syrian church founded by Andrew, to the Georgian Church founded also by Andrew, to the Armenian church founded by Jude and Bartholemew, the sameness of belief and practice is remarkable and consistent given the fact that the Apostles had to work in a day and age when there was little to no communication possible between them.
I am sorry if you find those practices given by God through the Apostles to the Church Universal to be a distraction or to be unnecessary. I am sorry if you find that the symbols of Incense and water and lighted candles and such like things divert your thoughts from prayer. I am sorry if you find yourself at odds with the office of Bishop - an office instituted by the Apostles. I am sorry if the Mass, Holy Comunion or Holy Eucharist (call it what you will) that all all the Apostles gave to all the churches that they founded confuses you or upsets you. But I am not sorry that you have God in your life, even if you do believe that He exists only between the pages of a Book. Bless you, John P., in your simplicity and may your errors serve only to bring you closer to God, as I pray that mine will also do for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John P., Thank-you for proving with your words the very truth of my words about the ridiculous and probably heretical concept of &#8216;sola scriptura&#8217;. The Apostles clearly taught at the very beginning of the Faith that it&#8217;s the Spirit moving amongst the faithful that guides the Church &#8211; the Book is, at best, the sacred history of our faith and the repository of ideas and beliefs that are, or at one time or another were, current amongst us.</p>
<p>The Bible is not inerrant for it is the Word of God filtered through the fallible minds of fallible men who had God given free will and therefore the freedom to listen and write whilst exercising their own prejudices and preconceptions. That is, and has always been from earliest Christian times, the teaching of all the mainstream churches, and so our Holy Book must be read whilst uttering prayers that the Spirit of God will guide our thoughts whilst we are so reading.</p>
<p>The strange idea that Scripture as embodied in a book is somehow magically the only thing that a Christian needs in order to understand God is of very recent invention and  would be a completely baffling and rather silly idea to those who knew Christ before His sacrifice, as well as to those who were present at the first Pentecost when the Spirit descended on them and moved them. They had no Bible to guide them, just the Spirit that moved them, yet they took our Faith out into the world and brought God&#8217;s love to our planet.</p>
<p>Furthermore, there is no consensus amongst Christians as to what exactly constitutes the Bible &#8211; even the great Protestant reformers (amongst many, many others), Calvin, Zwingli and Luther that is, believed that some of its books were definitely not Scriptural and shouldn&#8217;t be included. To this day there are many Christians who doubt the Spiritual authenticity of some many of the books, and it is as easy to make a case against the inclusion of most of them as it is to make a case for their inclusion. The Book of Revelation, which book you mention as &#8216;Revelations&#8217;, was one of the books about which the Protestant reformers and many in the mainstream churches of the time had grave doubts. Even to this day most Christians doubt the Spiritual authenticity of that particular Book.</p>
<p>By the way, Jesus was more than just a man &#8211; he was also God (one part of our Triune God, if you remember your Creed and your Catechism), which is a fact that you seem to have forgotten, but I may be wronging you there. However, the circular argument that you believe that the Bible is correct because the Bible says that it is correct is just plain silly, as is your assertion that &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t matter that the majority of England or even the whole world doesn&#8217;t believe it&#8221;, which statement reminds me of nothing more than the overheard comment of a proud mother at her incompetent son&#8217;s passing out parade &#8211; &#8220;Oh, look at my little Johnny; everyone is marching out of step except him.&#8221;<br />
The Apostles themselves instituted almost all (I say almost, please note, all) of the practices that the mainstream churches use today. From the church in India founded by Thomas, to the church in Egypt founded by Mark, to the church in Rome founded by Peter, to the church in Constantinople founded by Paul, to the church in Jerusalem founded by James, to the Syrian church founded by Andrew, to the Georgian Church founded also by Andrew, to the Armenian church founded by Jude and Bartholemew, the sameness of belief and practice is remarkable and consistent given the fact that the Apostles had to work in a day and age when there was little to no communication possible between them.<br />
I am sorry if you find those practices given by God through the Apostles to the Church Universal to be a distraction or to be unnecessary. I am sorry if you find that the symbols of Incense and water and lighted candles and such like things divert your thoughts from prayer. I am sorry if you find yourself at odds with the office of Bishop &#8211; an office instituted by the Apostles. I am sorry if the Mass, Holy Comunion or Holy Eucharist (call it what you will) that all all the Apostles gave to all the churches that they founded confuses you or upsets you. But I am not sorry that you have God in your life, even if you do believe that He exists only between the pages of a Book. Bless you, John P., in your simplicity and may your errors serve only to bring you closer to God, as I pray that mine will also do for me.</p>
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		<title>By: TheOrdinaryMan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 03:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like you&#039;re a moral relativist in religious garb. So Charles I wasn&#039;t power-mad? What do you call raising an army for the express purpose of destroying Parliament?
(That resulted in not one, but two civil wars) Yes, his view of the kingship had &quot;ceased to be meaningful&quot; precisely because Parliament wouldn&#039;t put up with dictators. Charles, a Scotsman, then raised an army in Scotland, and invaded England. Cromwell, leading the Parliamentary forces, drove the Scots out of England in 1648; and cast Charles into prison on the Isle of Wight. And the bishops were corrupt in Cromwell&#039;s day, and they&#039;re even worse today. How many scandal-clouds are hanging over the Archbishop of Canterbury today? What has the Anglican church done, except allow the ever-strengthening Muslim community to take over churches, and turn them into Mosques? The present-day Church of England is a joke. You think all you have to do is call Cromwell a bigot, and your point of view will be vindicated? No, sir, not in this ball park. Bring back Cromwell, Churchill, Disraeli, and Queen Victoria(Was she a bigot, too?)--real leaders are needed in England.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you&#8217;re a moral relativist in religious garb. So Charles I wasn&#8217;t power-mad? What do you call raising an army for the express purpose of destroying Parliament?<br />
(That resulted in not one, but two civil wars) Yes, his view of the kingship had &#8220;ceased to be meaningful&#8221; precisely because Parliament wouldn&#8217;t put up with dictators. Charles, a Scotsman, then raised an army in Scotland, and invaded England. Cromwell, leading the Parliamentary forces, drove the Scots out of England in 1648; and cast Charles into prison on the Isle of Wight. And the bishops were corrupt in Cromwell&#8217;s day, and they&#8217;re even worse today. How many scandal-clouds are hanging over the Archbishop of Canterbury today? What has the Anglican church done, except allow the ever-strengthening Muslim community to take over churches, and turn them into Mosques? The present-day Church of England is a joke. You think all you have to do is call Cromwell a bigot, and your point of view will be vindicated? No, sir, not in this ball park. Bring back Cromwell, Churchill, Disraeli, and Queen Victoria(Was she a bigot, too?)&#8211;real leaders are needed in England.</p>
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		<title>By: Underdog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Underdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is it that so many Americans expect their children to become something other than good little socialists after going through the SOCIALIZED school system?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that so many Americans expect their children to become something other than good little socialists after going through the SOCIALIZED school system?</p>
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		<title>By: CowboyUp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CowboyUp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recall Bradford also held judgment against fellow Puritans for Indians and paid restitution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall Bradford also held judgment against fellow Puritans for Indians and paid restitution.</p>
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		<title>By: CowboyUp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CowboyUp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rocky Mountain missed that lesson too, and apparently thinks the bad thinking behind Marxism originated with marx..   It&#039;s pretty clear he or she doesn&#039;t know much if anything about Plymouth Colony.
William Bradford confirmed everything you said in his diary.
Glad I missed that particular show, but I&#039;ve seen enough like it that I&#039;ve gone back to books.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocky Mountain missed that lesson too, and apparently thinks the bad thinking behind Marxism originated with marx..   It&#8217;s pretty clear he or she doesn&#8217;t know much if anything about Plymouth Colony.<br />
William Bradford confirmed everything you said in his diary.<br />
Glad I missed that particular show, but I&#8217;ve seen enough like it that I&#8217;ve gone back to books.</p>
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		<title>By: seewithyourowneyes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seewithyourowneyes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG.  Why do we judge 17th century Caucasians by 21st century standards, while refusing to judge non-Westerners by any standards at all?. Yes, the Pilgrims were &quot;dour,&quot; but remember that both Catholics and Protestants routinely tortured members of opposing sects during that era. Fining those who helped Quakers sounds mild according to the standards of the time. Witch burning, a veritable holocaust of women, was rampant in Europe for several hundred years, and more briefly in America.  During the same period, Muslims were continuing on their own course of colonization, attacking the gates of Vienna, hoping to enslave or behead all who refused to convert or to accept the dhimmi status of a conquered and inferior people.    
The Western capacity for self-criticism, which should be a great strength to us, has somehow been perverted into a fetish of self-hatred.  The only good Westerner is a self-hating Westerner, or something like that.  I have nothing against &quot;debunking&quot; the founding fathers, but we must also put them into the context of their times.  And what a false picture we paint if we debunk only our own history, while lowering our eyelids before the flaws and fraudulence of non-Western historical figures!   Compare the Pilgrims to the Muslims, or to the Aztec conquest and enslavement of neighboring tribes  .Seen in an historical perspective, even the dour Pilgrims moved society forward on the path to freedom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG.  Why do we judge 17th century Caucasians by 21st century standards, while refusing to judge non-Westerners by any standards at all?. Yes, the Pilgrims were &#8220;dour,&#8221; but remember that both Catholics and Protestants routinely tortured members of opposing sects during that era. Fining those who helped Quakers sounds mild according to the standards of the time. Witch burning, a veritable holocaust of women, was rampant in Europe for several hundred years, and more briefly in America.  During the same period, Muslims were continuing on their own course of colonization, attacking the gates of Vienna, hoping to enslave or behead all who refused to convert or to accept the dhimmi status of a conquered and inferior people.<br />
The Western capacity for self-criticism, which should be a great strength to us, has somehow been perverted into a fetish of self-hatred.  The only good Westerner is a self-hating Westerner, or something like that.  I have nothing against &#8220;debunking&#8221; the founding fathers, but we must also put them into the context of their times.  And what a false picture we paint if we debunk only our own history, while lowering our eyelids before the flaws and fraudulence of non-Western historical figures!   Compare the Pilgrims to the Muslims, or to the Aztec conquest and enslavement of neighboring tribes  .Seen in an historical perspective, even the dour Pilgrims moved society forward on the path to freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: seewithyourowneyes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seewithyourowneyes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we need a new approach to our opposition to Sharia Law.  We need to get more specific.
Islamists and their bought-and-paid-for dhimmis always claim that Sharia is consistent with our Constitution and that all apparent disagreements are just &quot;misunderstandings.&quot;  Let&#039;s call their bluff.  Let&#039;s include &quot;bride prices&quot; and forced marriages under our &quot;human trafficking&quot; laws.  Let&#039;s go after anyone who incites or abets forced marriage or child marriage with the same force we&#039;d use to prosecute the KKK.  After all, both the KKK and the abettors of forced marriage are conspiracies to intimidate oppressed groups and to deprive them of their civil rights.  Let&#039;s allow for no prosecutorial discretion in such matters - mandatory prosecution for human trafficking.  And the &quot;honor killing&quot; of girls who try to get out of forced marriage should be treated as a hate crime as well as a murder.
Let&#039;s go after both rape and wife-beating as civil rights offenses.  We should have done that long ago anyway.
If we attack Sharia in this piecemeal fashion, we put the Islamists in a corner.  They can&#039;t claim both that Sharia doesn&#039;t promote wife-beating, and that tougher laws against wife-beating discriminate against them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need a new approach to our opposition to Sharia Law.  We need to get more specific.<br />
Islamists and their bought-and-paid-for dhimmis always claim that Sharia is consistent with our Constitution and that all apparent disagreements are just &#8220;misunderstandings.&#8221;  Let&#8217;s call their bluff.  Let&#8217;s include &#8220;bride prices&#8221; and forced marriages under our &#8220;human trafficking&#8221; laws.  Let&#8217;s go after anyone who incites or abets forced marriage or child marriage with the same force we&#8217;d use to prosecute the KKK.  After all, both the KKK and the abettors of forced marriage are conspiracies to intimidate oppressed groups and to deprive them of their civil rights.  Let&#8217;s allow for no prosecutorial discretion in such matters &#8211; mandatory prosecution for human trafficking.  And the &#8220;honor killing&#8221; of girls who try to get out of forced marriage should be treated as a hate crime as well as a murder.<br />
Let&#8217;s go after both rape and wife-beating as civil rights offenses.  We should have done that long ago anyway.<br />
If we attack Sharia in this piecemeal fashion, we put the Islamists in a corner.  They can&#8217;t claim both that Sharia doesn&#8217;t promote wife-beating, and that tougher laws against wife-beating discriminate against them.</p>
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		<title>By: seewithyourowneyes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seewithyourowneyes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, obviously the Pilgrims couldn&#039;t have read Marx in the 1600&#039;s.!  But, like many utopian Christian sects, they did attempt a communal system of ownership not unlike Marx&#039;s communism.      
My point is that the communal system failed the Pilgrims and they had more success once they adopted a system of individual ownership.  My other point is that the &quot;educational&quot; tv program deliberately distorted this very well documented piece of history in order to falsely claim that communal ownership was what saved the Pilgrims.,    
The dishonesty of the Cultural Marxists, and the naivete of their &quot;useful idiots,&quot; is truly reaching epic proportions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, obviously the Pilgrims couldn&#8217;t have read Marx in the 1600&#8242;s.!  But, like many utopian Christian sects, they did attempt a communal system of ownership not unlike Marx&#8217;s communism.<br />
My point is that the communal system failed the Pilgrims and they had more success once they adopted a system of individual ownership.  My other point is that the &#8220;educational&#8221; tv program deliberately distorted this very well documented piece of history in order to falsely claim that communal ownership was what saved the Pilgrims.,<br />
The dishonesty of the Cultural Marxists, and the naivete of their &#8220;useful idiots,&#8221; is truly reaching epic proportions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason P</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s right. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right. </p>
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