Islam: The Foundation of the Middle East Conflict

fatah-islam-terrorAs we approach the 4th month and 14th meeting between Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA), the latest round of U.S. pressured negotiations seem hopelessly deadlocked.  What else is new?

Secretary of State Kerry arrived in Jerusalem this week to try and resuscitate the perpetually moribund peace talks between Israel and the PLO.  According to an article in the Jerusalem Post, Israeli officials claim both sides are cognizant a gap between them is so great that only an interim deal can be made in the 9-month time frame mandated by the Obama Administration.

Not wasting a moment, PLO secretary general, Yasser Abed Rabbo, immediately quashed the report and rejected it out of hand, stating it was “baseless.”….“The Palestinian leadership rejects any interim agreements…. We also reject the idea of establishing a Palestinian state with temporary borders.” As if not emphatic enough, he went on to describe the Israeli position as:  “the worst in 20 years.”

PA Foreign Minister Riad Malki concurred, reaffirming as non-negotiable the demand for a two-state solution based upon the pre-1967 lines “where Palestine and Israel would live next to each other in security and peace.”  Wouldn’t that be nice?

In accordance, PLO Executive Committee member Wasel Abu Yusef  further dispelled the aura of secret negotiations by stating, if they didn’t get their way, “The Palestinians won’t be able to continue with them.  All indications show that the talks are headed toward failure.”  For reasons other than his, I couldn’t agree with him more.

Lost in all the hyperbole of deceptive surface issues such as “settlements,” Jerusalem, the right of return, pre-67 borders, and the creation of a Palestinian state itself, is a failure to recognize these issues are outward symptoms of the struggle, not its essence.  The foundation, the least common denominator of this enmity is the expansionist nature of Islam, a political movement ensconced in a religion.

More than any other reason, these innumerable talks have been nothing but a game of ring around the rosy and Jew hatred, codified within the Qur’an and Hadith, the foundational scriptures of Islam.  To the faithful, the mere existence of a sovereign Jewish state in their midst is a violation of dar-al-Islam (all those lands in which a Muslim sets foot in becomes the possession of Islam.  Non-Muslims may live there but only upon Muslim sufferance).  This is the substantive point of departure of Arab bellicosity long before 1948 and to this very day is the one underlying issue which renders all others moot.

From the past to the present, from Mohammad, to the Caliphate dynasties, onward to today’s terrorists wreaking havoc upon the world.  Expansive Islam is driven by the venerated Qur’an, one-third of which is devoted to the denigration of Jews.  The quotes in the Hadith (the putative sayings of Muhammad or a report about something he did) are no less replete with Jewish invective.  These laws divide the world theologically into those who who accept Islam as a divine religion and those that do not.

Those who do not are called dhimmis (conquered people that do not convert to Islam but are protected as long as they pay an exorbitant poll tax, the jizya).  They are forced to accept a recognizable and humiliating second class existence under strict Islamic suzerainty.  This has been the fate of all native populations vanquished by Muslim hordes throughout history and would surely be that of Jews in Israel today if they absurdly succumb to the pressures of a land for peace pipe dream where recalcitrant terrorist groups over a period of time would certainly finish off whatever was left of Israel.

Unfortunately, hitherto, the West either fails to recognize or doesn’t have the moxie to confront the self-evident theological nature of the Middle East dispute, finding it much easier to admonish Israel for not acquiescing to the preposterous demands made upon her.  To those dismissive of this analysis, deeming it Islamophobic, I encourage you not to kill the messenger. Instead google an English translation of the Qur’an, type in “Jews” or “children of Israel,” do some objective scholarship, and make your own judgment as to whether this clash is fueled by temporal dictates or by theological, systemic, Jew hatred.

In his own words, Israel’s “partner for peace,” Mahmoud Abbas in a 2007 speech commemorating the the 42nd anniversary of the founding of his Fatah party quoted directly from Sura 5:64 of the Qur’an:

“And the Jews say, the hand of Allah is chained. Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say. ….We have cast among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. Every time they kindled the fire of war [against you], Allah extinguished it. And they strive throughout the land [causing] corruption, and Allah does not like corrupters.”

He went on to say: “We should put our internal fighting aside and raise our rifles only against the Israeli occupation.”  Yet with a straight face and the spontaneity of a chameleon he adeptly can look the gullible right in the eye as he did in 2010 at a White House meeting in which he proclaimed to President Obama:  “I say in front of you, Mr. President, that we have nothing to do with incitement against Israel, and we’re not doing that.”  Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Human Rights and co-chairman of the Bi-Partisan Coalition for Combating Anti-Semitism, would beg to differ.

Following a meeting on Capital Hill on January 26, 2012, he and others stated that Palestinian text books at grade levels 1-12 are replete with lessons of intolerance and hatred toward Jews and Israel.

As if more evidence of his ill intentions are needed, Abbas, the “moderate”at a meeting in Cairo this past July 29th reiterated:  “In a final resolution, we would not see the presence of a single Israeli, civilian or soldier on our lands.” “Final resolution.” How fitting he would use that term.  With his demand for a (Judenrein) Jew-free country, this revered Palestinian statesman joins the majority of Arab nations, including Saudi Arabia, where Jews, especially those from Israel are not permitted to set foot.

If this were a secular affray over matters such as those mentioned earlier or any other non-religious contention it could have been settled years ago.  But except to the willfully blind, the overwhelming evidence validates theocratic Jewish hatred as its underpinning.  If not for its religious nature why would the entire Islamic world be so vehement in not recognizing Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people?

In response to my essays and presentations, I’m often asked my opinion on how this struggle might ultimately be resolved.  The options I present are often unacceptable to some and impracticable to others.

One thing for certain, based upon the aforementioned it won’t get done by the historically defunct “land for peace” paradigm.  If that were possible it would have been accomplished at Camp David in 2000 when Arafat turned down 97% of Judea/Samaria (West Bank), all of Gaza, a capital in Jerusalem, a right of return, and a $30 billion compensation fund for refugees.

It was also spurned 5 years later by the Palestinians following Israel’s unilateral withdrawal from Gaza resultant in two subsequent wars and terrorism unabated till this very day.

Once again it was spurned in 2006 when then Prime Minister of Israel, Ehud Olmert offered Abbas joint sovereignty of Jerusalem and a partial return of refugees.  None of these gestures of peace, including Israel’s abandonment of Southern Lebanon, were met with reciprocation.   History and current events bare witness, conflicts exist wherever predominant Muslim states adjoin non-Islamic entities and this certainly is no different.  So what are the options? Few and none appealing:

All out war; acquiescence; the eventual dismemberment of the Jewish character of Israel; the status quo; an Islamic Reformation.

The one that could end the Israeli/Palestinian crisis and 90% of the conflicts around the world will most likely never happen, an Islamic Reformation.  Such a movement would entail a renouncement of the political, imperialist dogma which up to this point has characterized Islam from the outset.  It would also necessitate purging the hectoring and codified hatred of Jews and others so abundant within Islamic scriptures.  In addition, Muslims would have to renounce the messianic, forced proselytization and conversion of the Kafir (“infidels” not wishing to convert to Islam).  Anything short of this guarantees conflict not only between Israel and the Palestinians but between Islam and nations and individuals throughout the world that wish to maintain their own customs and way of life.

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  • N. Wasse

    The Arab/Muslim invasion of the Middle East starting in 633 AD destroyed the classical world of the late antiquity and the end result was Islam and what it brings with it: hate , ignorance and jihad or perpetual wars, murder and enslavement of pagans and treating Jews and Christians as aliens in their own homelands and the end result was dragging the lands that were invaded by the Arabs into the dark ages and the medieval world and the disaster still goes on and on

    • Ace

      The north star of common sense on the hideous phenomenon of Islam.
      The Cliff Notes version of how to understand this pestilence.

  • JohnWV

    Israel defines itself as a Jewish state and will never accept a
    non apartheid democracy with a Jewish minority. Continuing illegal
    annexations, settlement expansion and ethnic cleansing have also
    precluded any negotiated two state solution. The Jewish State must be
    forced to recognize an armed Palestine with externally enforced
    autonomy, eviction of all settlers, true contiguity encompassing
    Gaza, the West Bank and Jerusalem together, neither pinched nor
    parceled, and pay punitive reparations. American foreign policy must
    again serve American interests, not the Jewish state’s paranoid
    pursuit of invulnerability, territorial conquest and racist empire.

    • Julie Vanholstyn

      palestine is a made up country. no land for terrorists

    • gray_man

      Ignorant nonsense.


      Pal-e-SWINE defines itself as a Islamofascist entity and will never accept a
      non apartheid democracy with a no-Muslim minority. Continuing illegal
      terrorism, jihad and ethnic cleansing have also precluded any negotiated two state solution.

      The Muslim World must be forced to recognize an armed Israel with internally enforced autonomy, eviction of all terrorists, jihadis, true contiguity from the River to the Sea (including Gaza, the West Bank and Jerusalem together, neither pinched nor parceled, and pay punitive reparations to Jews, Christians, HIndus, Buddhists, Bahais and America. American foreign policy must again serve American interests, not the Islamist/Socialist ummah’s paranoid pursuit of invulnerability, territorial conquest and racist empire.

    • Gee

      So the 56 Muslim countries, and nearly 50 countries are democracies? Oh and that Jewish minority is 76% of the population of the country.

      Simple question for you – where is the Arab claim to the land? Nobody and I do mean nobody in the entire world has every produced such a claim.

      The only ethnic cleansing that occurred was by the Arabs.

      As for territorial conquest – when is the US going to stop their’s?

      • defcon 4

        What “territorial conquest” is being committed by the US in the here and now?

    • Rob Hobart

      So you’re an anti-Semite. Got it.

    • defcon 4

      The last clauses of your last sentence sound like a classic case of islamic psychological projection Hajji.

    • Drakken

      Those dog goned Israeli’s, they are obviously doing that ethnic cleansing an apartheid very wrong, if those pali’s are being ethnically cleansed? How come they are breeding and multiplying like rats? Let me clue you in on something shortbus, there will NEVER EVER be peace between Israel and the muslim arabs, PERIOD! The effing rag heads want all the Jews dead, so good luck with that haji, because it ain’t happening, so happy eternal nakba.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Samantha power? Is that you, skank? So Obama is announcing his official policy on Israel, eh? Does it include BDS?

  • Ed FDNYRetiree

    Islam is the WORLD’S conflict!

  • John Amos

    Well written, The solution is the destruction of Islam. The bible says Christ will save the day by his appearing.

    • john spielman

      absolutely! Islam is an antichrist religion becquse it denies Jesus is the Son of GOD. Islam (esp shia Islam) also has theology which seems to be fulfill the prophesies of the Revelation to John in the bible with the beast the false prophet and the antichrist being Allah, the Mahdi etc plus this ruler will change times and seasons (which will happen is the Gregorian (and Julian) calendars. are changed to the muslim lunar calendar with the year one being the birth of that antichrist pseudoprophet mass murderer thief liar and pedophile- Muhammed!

      • Moa

        The anti-Christ is “Isa” (Jesus) in Muslim echatology. Isa comes and “breaks the Cross”.

        Al Mahdi is the false prophet.

        The Beast is the Caliphate – probably headed by Turkey.

    • Drakken

      God helps those who help themselves, so give the muslims what they so richly deserve, complete utter destruction.

    • Frédéric Doré

      do not try to remplace a religion by another
      all religions are dumbs
      atheism FTW

      • ziggy zoggy

        Right, because atheists didn’t rack up history’s largest body count in the 20th century alone. A faith in humanity based on nihilism is the way to go. Hubris über alles.

        • Frédéric Doré

          no they didint, in fact atheism was NEVER used as a reason to go to war and most genocide leaders were somehow religious.
          Atheism is the way of reason, when you got a brain Inside and you stop believing in imaginary friends, you earn common sense and start doing stuff for a specific purpose, not because Allah told you to murder all those who dont believe in him ( he dosent exist anyway. Way to go, Murder in the name of your imaginary friend!)

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Nonetheless, totalitarian atheism, i.e., communism, where worship of the deity is replaced by worship of the utopian state, is responsible for massacring more people on the mother planet that all the religions combined, although Islam, which is also a form of totalitarianism masquerading as being a religion, gives them a run for their money. Explain that one will you. Indeed, I’ll be anxiously waiting for yourinevitable lame explanation.

          • Frédéric Doré

            wow. Atheism–> communism, im not even going to waste my time trying to get something in your head, it wont get in anyay

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Thank you. I didn’t feel like giving myself more brain damage reading your unhinged garbage anyway.

  • Texas Patriot

    There is another option: defensive conquest. As long as Israel is not attacked, there will be peace. If Israel is attacked, she will respond with overwhelming force to seize the land from her attackers and expel them from it. In that way, Israel will either be allowed to live in peace with her neighbors, or she will gradually reconquer the entirety of the Promised Land. And who knows, perhaps by having the lands of Israel as a buffer between the perpetually warring Shia to the north and the perpetually warring Sunni to the south, the descendants of Israel can act as a buffer to keep the descendants of Ishmael from killing each other. Stranger things have happened.

    • defcon 4

      “As long a Israel is not attacked”…what do you call 65 years of unending islam0fascist terror committed not only by non-Israeli muslimes, but muslimes who are Israeli citizens?

      • Texas Patriot

        For Israel, the process of constructing a lasting peace in which her citizens can survive and thrive in relative safety and security will consist of eliminating both enemies abroad and enemies within, and there can be no exceptions regarding enemies now living within her own boundaries. No nation can eliminate all their enemies in the world. That’s a fact of life that every nation has to live with. But recognizing and eliminating enemies within is something that every nation must do if it wishes to survive.

        The time will soon come when Israel will have to draw a line in the sand very much like the one drawn by Col. William Barrett Travis at the Alamo. Travis gave the remaining defenders of the Alamo the right to stay or leave, with no questions asked, but that those who stayed agreed to fight to the finish on his side, even if it meant death.

        If war is inevitable, Israel must know who she can count on and who she can’t, and if there are those now living within the territorial boundaries of Israel who are ideologically committed to the destruction of their host country, it should be clear which side of the line they are on.

    • Drakken

      Israel needs to give Gaza a healthy taste of Carthage, and if the lesson is missed by the savages in the wet bank, give it to them as well. Every time the rag heads attack, they should lose more land.

      • Texas Patriot

        I don’t believe in derogatory personal attacks against enemies of Western Civilization. They believe in what they are doing, and they are willing to die for it; and that’s fine. But make no mistake about it, the enemies of the West do need to understand that there will be consequences to their aggression, and permanently losing the land they attack from, even if it’s only a gradual loss of their overall holdings, will drive that point home to them in no uncertain terms.

        • Drakken

          Niceties and pleasantries with islam and its leftist enablers are over and if they can’t handle a few nasty names, oh well. Deo Volente.

          • Texas Patriot

            According to Jesus, we should pray for our enemies:

            “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbors and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven.” Matthew 5:43-45.

            I think he was right. ;-)

          • defcon 4

            But Jesus never had to deal w/islam0fascists or nazis who would happily chop his head off no matter what he preached.

          • Texas Patriot

            We don’t have to hate them, and we should always hope they see the light. But we do have a duty to protect our own people from violent attack. Basically it’s just a matter of making sure they renounce their hateful ideologies or go somewhere else. It may not be easy, but it’s not that complicated.

          • defcon 4

            Why don’t you hope in one hand and… Forget it.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “It may not be easy, but it’s not that complicated.”

            What complicates it is the number of duped supporters they have that perform the work of 5th columnists. That’s where it gets complicated.

          • ziggy zoggy

            “Have to” has got nothing to do with it. We should hate Islam and any islamopithecine who tries to impose it on others.

            “Renounce their hateful ideologies or go somewhere else?” Maybe the passengers of flight 93 should’ve done that with the highjackers instead of just killing them? 1400 years of trying to coexist with those animals has proved futile. There is no peaceful or accommodating way to interpret the koran, hadith and sura – not that the islamopithecines will ever try to.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            You can pray for your enemies both before and after you rebuke them.

          • Texas Patriot

            I’m not sure that rebuking them would do much good. They came to the West under the false pretenses of being a religion of peace. Now we know that is not the case. Under these circumstances, I think we have a right to ask them to renounce the violent aspects of their religion or to take it elsewhere.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “Under these circumstances, I think we have a right to ask them to renounce the violent aspects of their religion or to take it elsewhere.”

            That could be characterized as a rebuke.

          • Drakken

            Well Sunshine, you go pray for them, the rest of us will praise Jesus and pass the M-4/AK and lots of ammunition.

          • Texas Patriot

            To each his own.

          • ziggy zoggy

            He said pray for them, not surrender. Jesus didn’t oppose just war.

          • defcon 4

            Rome “protected the common good with its Legions”. Maybe under the Republic they did (Rome allied with Israel twice to defeat the Seleucids). But what they did to Judah (Judea) after the Bar Kochva rebellion had nothing to do w/the common good of anyone.

          • ziggy zoggy

            That’s true but when Jesus was alive, Rome kept order by preventing all the squabbling factions and tribes from killing each other. Bar Kochba made the wrong choice by rebelling. The Governor probably planned to rename Jerusalem but Hadrian Caesar didn’t want any more insurrections or major problems coming out of Judea, so he probably would’ve stopped the Governor if Bar Kochba and the Jewish people had raised a stink. Bar Kochba went straight to armed revolt though, with predictable results. In the Roman world, Caesar was sure to send his Legions into any province that rebelled so often, and Kochba should’ve known that – which he apparently did according to writing attributed to him. He also should’ve known about how the Punic Wars ended and how Rome conquered Judea to begin with, but I don’t think he cared. Hadrian never wanted to commit so many Legions he needed elsewhere but he had already warned that he would if there was another rebellion. Banishing the Jews from their land was a terrible thing but that’s how the Ancient World worked and Rome ruled it. Bar Kochba is still a hero tolenty of people but I think he screwed up and all the Jews who didn’t support his rebellion had to pay for his decision along with him.

          • defcon 4

            LOL. If Israel put down it’s arms and prayed for its enemies what would the net result be?

          • ziggy zoggy

            The islamic Republic of Hamasistan.

        • nood2

          You’re theory isn’t working now with the increase of settlements in Judea and Samaria.
          From what I see everyday around the world, Islam is not too worried about your opinions.
          Where are the “consequences to their aggression”
          Looks to me that these consequences so far have led to a lot of appeasement

          • Texas Patriot

            N: “From what I see everyday around the world, Islam is not too worried about your opinions.”

            I don’t think they’re worried either. Not at all. And why should they be? The West has been in a state of profound denial about what is happening since the massacre of the Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics in 1972. Are we beginning to wake up? Time will tell.

          • nood2

            How do you expect America to wake up when you have Hussein Obama running the show?
            One of his first speeches, in Cairo, has led to nothing but a downhill slide of the once great American empire.
            That dude is so dangerous when he opens his mouth.
            Just imagine this idiot is driving the last nails in the once great America’s coffin.
            Remember, he who blesses them, will be blessed, and he who curses them, will be cursed.
            Every empire that has turned it’s back on the Jews have been damned and destroyed.
            And the Jews are still here and the empires are all gone.
            God bless

          • Texas Patriot

            We’ve always been a good friend to Israel, and I hope we always will be. But I’m not worried about Obama. At a certain point, he’s going to be an enormous catalyst for the American reawakening that needs to occur, and that point may be approaching sooner than we think. As Abraham Lincoln said, “You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.”

          • nood2

            Man, the words only have importance because of the man saying them. Without resolve they are only words.
            “Catalyst” Obama?
            The dude wants to give the remaining 1/2 of 1 % of the ME to Islam. He wants Islam to dominate the ME 100%. Don’t believe his words, rather observe his resolve.
            His words say he wants a nuclear free Iran, but his drive to lessening sanctions, show his resolve.
            The community organizer can’t even get a web site to work, let alone get his people to buy into his programs.
            He’s going to lead the American awakening?
            Good luck with that one

          • Texas Patriot

            Obama’s vision of a democratic reawakening of the middle east collapsed on September 11, 2012 with the massacre of our diplomats at Benghazi and the worldwide Muslim chants of “Obama, Obama, We’re All Osama.” At this point he really has zero credibility on the subject, and I think he knows it.

          • nood2

            Funnier yet, America continues to allow Muslim immigration, even though, THEY were chanting “Obama, Obama, we’re all Osama”

          • defcon 4

            What kind of democracy is possible when the majority of the electorate are islam0fascists?

          • Moa

            Actually, the shattering of Obama’s dreams was the Egyptian secular and popular revolution of 2013. The biggest street protests in history (naturally, downplayed by the Leftists media in the West).

            The Egyptian revolution has exposed the Muslim Brotherhood for who they really are. As long as the Egyptians fight the Brotherhood we are safe.

            With Syria, Iran has lost credibility – just like the Muslim Brotherhood. Obama and his Democratic fiends (eg. Valerie Jarret) backed the wrong horse, again – they must be spitting tacks at the “impertinence” of the Egyptian people who dared to thwart the tyrranny of the Muslim Brotherhood.

            Islam is dying. You can’t see it so clearly yet, but it is happening. That’s why they’re so desperate to convert the West – especially America – as they lose their base elsewhere. There is great hope, yet most people aren’t aware of the significance of the Egyptian Revolution (discrediting the Muslim Brotherhood) and the Syrian conflict (severly discrediting Iran and Hezbollah in Arab eyes).

          • ziggy zoggy

            Obama didn’t back the wrong horse. He has always been allied with the Muslim Brotherhood. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Brotherhood funded his Harvard education or his Senate campaigns. HeII, I wouldn’t even be surprised if it contributed to his Presidential campaign.

          • defcon 4

            islam isn’t “dying”. The extent of the islam0nazi empire and influence hasn’t been greater than it has been right now. Islam has a presence in every continent on earth. Islam has successfully introduced aspects of Sharia law into Europe and Canada (outlawing criticism of islam is a cornerstone of Sharia law).

          • ziggy zoggy

            P.T. Barnum. Lincoln didn’t think that way.

          • defcon 4

            I think TP is right. P.T. Barnum said something to the effect there’s a sucker born every minute.

          • ziggy zoggy

            The quote is misattributed to Lincoln. I never even heard of it being attributed to Lincoln until T.P. did it a few month ago. Lincoln supposedly gave it in Clinton Illinois on 9/8/1858 but there is no documentation to support this claim. In fact, it didn’t appear in the account of the speech in the local paper, the Bloomington Pantograph, and it isn’t in any of Lincoln’s collected speeches.

            T.P. is wrong. Maybe Barnum didn’t originate the quote either but at least it sounds like something he would say.

          • Moa

            They should be worried. Their rate of population growth is declining (just like the West, but delayed by a few decades). The Saudis will stop being oil exporters within two decades. The Iranians have longer, but less. Islam is very close to the peak of its economic and demographic power. If we can weather the next two decades then the pendulum shifts back to the West.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Shifts back? When did it leave? Islam is no match for America and it will never get enough islamopithecines here to take over. America is not Europe.

        • docmusic

          Texas Patriot…..What
          is the number 1 problem on our planet ?

          don’t we fix the number one problem on our planet ?

          are only 2 billion of the problem now.

          many more trillions are we going to waste ?

          will get the ultimate peace prize plus the planetary carbon-footprint reduction

          are waiting for someone to make history.

          seems……Putin is the man…….. i feel Putin will rescue this planet from
          the morass it is in right now.

          has the wits to outsmart and smash you know what and the you know whos.

          see…… Are there good muslems? Yes, there are millions upon millions of them
          in the ground right now.

          a certain filthy Bavarian corporal (may his name be blotted

          stated: “Conscience is a Jewish invention, it is a blemish like

          I suspect far too many of the Islamic cult share the

          belief. Both frequently display a “morality” more akin

          rapacious animals (sans conscience, morality, decency, kindness) than



          everyone including muslims have realised that Islam is only a magnet for

          angry and the mentally


          remain angry and mentally ill. There is no Zen in islam. islam is militant

          facts are facts…so islam is a cult. It wants to be a religion but it can

          be one….it is retrograde and stupid and neeedlessly mentally stunting

          the founder was an absolute idiot with serious mental psychotic issues

          did not understand the true meanings of words he used. You have to properly

          the insane islam founder and leader and their psycho aspirations.

          very sad but very very true….like being born a smallpox virus
          today…..Totally useless and has to be

          can we humanely irradicate islam ? You see….Islam is a

          magnet for the angry and the mentally ill

          remain super angry and super mentally ill.

          islam comes on full time on the planet …….Future man will be illiterate,

          and mentally ill. The whole world will be muslim.

          will stop and human minds will

          gutters just like the head honcho of islam was soooo many tears and

          back….. illiterate ,sadistic and mentally ill.


          co-ran is not education in fact it



          of gutter islam being taken for a religion

          the paramount mistake humans made in their evolution.

          cannot ever

          smarter than the top nut job of the cult was 1400 years back who scared

          cowardly jobless lowlife arabs into his filthy cult.

          politeness will be savagely replaced by idiocy and

          Humans have doomed themselves by forcibly taking a mad arab’s

          dirty rantings as words of intelligence.

          will be the first planet to actually witness Reverse-Darwinism

          to the stunting of the human mind by stifling the female

          the species.

          there will be only muslims… humans.

          are dooming our children to the arabs.

          is our precise future because instead of

          madness and mental slavery we are politely ushering in gutter thoughts

          paedophilia which is allowed and legal in this dirt bag cult. .

          is legal in islam. What will happen


          man will be illiterate, sadistic and mentally-ill.

          whole world will be muslim. Education will stop and human minds

          become gutters just like the head honcho of islam was soooo many years and

          back….. illiterate ,sadistic and mentally ill.

          repeat….Reading the co-ran is not education in fact

          is de-education.

          The advent of gutter islam being taken for a

          religion is the paramount mistake humans made in their evolution. One cannot

          ever be smarter than the top nut job of the cult was 1400 years back who scared

          some cowards into his filthy cult.

          Our/Your politeness will be savagely replaced by idiocy

          and anarchy. Humans have doomed themselves by forcibly taking a mad arab’s

          filthy rantings as words of intelligence.

          Earth will be the first planet to actually witness

          reverse-Darwinism thanks to the stunting of the human mind by stifling the

          female of the species.

          Soon there will be only muslims…


        • ziggy zoggy

          Kill the wogs and dispossess them of their territory but don’t insult them, is that it? Ridiculous. And if they really weren’t afraid to die, they would attack us en masse, rather than using weak cowardly tactics like terrorism and demographic infestation.

          America and the rest of the civilized world should be insulting and ridiculing the Raggies and all other islamopithecines without relent – 24/7.

          • Texas Patriot

            America and the rest of the civilized world is under attack by an extremely aggressive and determined foe which believes that it is commanded by God to conquer and subjugate the world. If we fail to recognize the threat and defend ourselves effectively, our civilization will be swept away and obliterated just as surely as the Christian and Jewish civilizations of the 7th through the 14th centuries were swept away and obliterated. The foe is the same, but this time their tactics are different.

            Instead of military attack, they have chosen to attack demographically by immigrating under the guise of the “religion of peace” and gradually increasing their foothold by aggressive procreation and multiplication of their numbers in the countries in which they have moved into. In this way, they hope to gradually increase their power through the democratic process until they eventually have enough political power to win democratic elections and overturn the existing civilizations by utilizing the very ideals of freedom, equal rights, and democracy they seek to eliminate. It would be a great trick if it works, and if the West wants to survive, it will be necessary to wake up to what is happening and take the necessary steps to prevent the destruction our own civilization.

            But Jesus was right. We don’t have to hate our enemies, and we don’t have to insult them. We should instead pray that they wake up and realize that their strategy won’t work. They need to understand that the West won’t remain asleep forever. That sooner or later, there will be a broad awakening as to who they are and what they are trying to do. The smart ones will wake up and leave while they can. And that’s what we should pray for.

    • Geoffrey_Britain

      The best defense is a good offense. There can be no peace because Islam will not accept any peace short of Israel’s destruction. It is a THEOLOGICAL IMPERATIVE.

      President:I know there is much to learn from each other if we can make a truce. We can find a way to Co-exist. can there be a peace between us?
      Alien: Peace? NO PEACE!
      President Whitmore: What is it you want us to do?
      Captured Alien: Die…die…

  • S.L. Rachford’s Ire

    This article says it all. Clear and concise. Thanks.

  • Geoffrey_Britain

    No ‘gradual’ conquest by Israel. Issue an ultimatum, further attacks will result in the annexation of Gaza. Attacks after that will result in the annexation of the West Bank. Attacks after that will result in the expulsion of ALL Muslims from Israel.

    Attacks after that, will result in the destruction of the Dome of the Rock.

    Impress upon Islam that Mecca itself is at stake. That if they wish to see the Kaaba turned into volcanic glass, just continue to attack Israel’s citizens.

    Tell Obama AND the corrupt U.N. to go pound sand.

    US support is an albatross upon Israel’s neck. Obama is using Israeli’s belief that they cannot survive without US support to slowly lead Israel to the ‘gallows’…

    Israel now has the oil and gas resources to support itself, Russia will sell Israel all the weapons it needs and Israeli technology is the best in the world.

    It’s long past time for Israel to stop apologizing for its very existence.

    • Texas Patriot

      My compliments, Geoffrey. It would appear that you have recaptured some semblance of the warlike spirit of your ancient ancestors in the British Isles, which unfortunately seems to have been lost on most of your countrymen today. It’s now or never, you know.

      There’s never been a greater challenge to the West, and we are at the very point of collapsing under the weight of poor economic decisions, disastrous immigration policies, and unbelievably misguided foreign policy decisions. The battle lines for us are not in the streets of Damascus, Cairo or Jerusalem. They are in the streets of London, Paris, and Berlin. Israel must do whatever it takes to save herself from the Islamic tsunami of warlike tribes surrounding her, but we must do ours if we want to avoid a total elimination of our own Western culture.

      I don’t know about the rest of your countrymen, but it is refreshing to see at least one Brit who is not ready to roll over and die without a fight. ;-)

      • Geoffrey_Britain

        Thanks for the kind words but I must say that I’m as American as yourself. My ‘handle’ is a play on my actual first and last name, which translates as ‘man from Briton’. My paternal ancestry hails from the British Isles.

        I’m not hopeful for the UK or Europe’s ability to avoid dhimmitude but the battle lines for Americans are right here in our country.

        The left is engaged in an undeclared war to destroy America and erect upon its ashes the United Socialist States of Amerika.

        • Texas Patriot

          I have English, Welsh, and Scottish blood, as well as a nice dash of German, French, and Dutch, so I consider myself very much identified with Northern Europe as well. But you’re right. The battle lines are here in America as well as, indeed, they have been since Communist agents began infiltrating our government after WWI.

          Unfortunately, we’re already a long way down the same road the Brits have travelled economically and politically, and it remains to be seen whether we can turn it all around. The best thing I’ve seen regarding the cause of our economics woes is the analysis of Dr. Robert Atkinson in his book, Innovation Economics, and I wholeheartedly recommend at least his introduction of the book last year before the New America Foundation, which is recorded for the benefit of us all on YouTube, as follows:

          Again, it’s nice to see a bit of the fighting spirit and love of freedom that made the West the greatest civilization in the history of the world. It’s not over yet, but there is also no doubt that we have never faced a graver threat in a more weakened condition morally, as well as economically. It will take the very best from all of us to prevail in this fight. Hang in there.

          • Geoffrey_Britain

            I’ll check out your link.

    • nood2

      Geoff, hold on there mate.
      1) Israel was already in Gaza, why go back again? Annexation would give the Muslim side more and more votes to be used against the Jewish State
      2) If Israel annexes the West Bank, again it would create an imbalance at the ballot box. The Muslims would end up dominating Jewish Israel within a short period of time, without firing a shot. It’s the same that is going on in the sleeping West. We keep allowing invaders inside our borders, and these invaders will not treat you with the respect that you are showing them, when they out number us.
      As proof of my statement, show me where in the world, that Islam is tolerant of any minority?

      • Drakken

        Not if you make Gaza and the west bank completely pali free.

        • nood2

          If we were smart, we would make sure that the West is also free of them.
          But, who says we are smart?

          • Drakken

            Our day is coming, much to the horror of the muslims we will tire of them and the plague they are and eradicate them.

      • ziggy zoggy

        The Psuedostinians in Judea and Samaria are squatters. Driving them put would be easy. Israel could turn off the power and utilities in Gaza and blockade it. Once the animals had eaten enough of each other to have second thoughts about trying to survive on their own, refugee ships could be allowed to dock and take the ones who want to survive off to Islamic countries. The rest would simply starve.

        Not that that will happen anytime soon. Too bad.

        • defcon 4

          Send the paleswine to live w/their lieberal supporters in Beverly Hills and NYC! I’m sure they wouldn’t mind the chance to support a bunch of islam0fascist psychopaths in their own backyards!

  • ObamaYoMoma

    Study Islam, especially the universally accepted throughout Islam “doctrine of abrogation”, the infamous “sword verses” of the Koran, and the history of the pre and post Hijra periods, and you will learn that the sole fundamental purpose of Islam is the subjugation of all religions and all infidels into Islamic totalitarianism through both violent and non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law) in order to make Islam supreme throughout the world.

    Thus, what has been happening in Israel perpetually ever since even before Israel was created actually is an ongoing jihad (holy war) to re-conquer Israel and to subjugate the Jewish infidels into Islamic totalitarianism. Hence, peace between the so-called Palestinians and the infidel Israelis is literally impossible, just like peace between Muslims and infidels worldwide is also impossible, as the so-called Palestinians are in essence the proxies of the Islamic world. Indeed, everyone should take their blinders off and take a broad look around the world; Israel is hardly the only victim of infinite jihad.

    This conflict was never about land Israel allegedly stole from the so-called Palestinians. That is just taqiyya, i.e., stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad used to justify the violence and to dupe gullible useful idiots. Not to mention also that if this conflict is a conflict only between just Arabs and Israelis, then why do the Persian Iranian Muslims want to nuke Israel? Someone please explain that one for me.

    The infidel world needs to come to the realization that the Islamic world plans to subjugate it into Islamic totalitarianism via any means necessary and then take appropriate action to defend itself to also include Israel.

  • fish

    The problem with Islam is that the Orthodox have a nasty little habit of beheading any muslim who begins to show Heterodox tendancies. Orthodox Islam can never change and will always be insane. But if it was somehow possible to insulate the Heterodox from the Orthodox….

    Without the death threat of apostasy hanging over their heads I can see a large section of the middle east mellowing out, adopting some sort of deist / agnostic position, a little yoga and meditation and other such unislamic pagan abominations. Its a common mashup in the United States amongst ex-Christians or nominal Christians. Of course they’ll cling to their muslim identity until the end of eternity (case in point, the New York Jews who don’t know the first thing about Judaism and don’t give a fuck about Israel) but that’s not really such a problem in and of itself.

    Of course its logistically impossible to isolate the Orthodox and send them packing back to the Arabian Peninsular where they belong. But one can always try to be optimistic.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Of course its logistically impossible to isolate the Orthodox and send them packing back to the Arabian Peninsular where they belong. But one can always try to be optimistic.

      What you mean? They are all Orthodox. Otherwise, they are blasphemous apostates in which case they must be executed. Hence, they must all be sent packing ASAP.

      Indeed, can you point to a single population of Muslim emigrants anywhere in the world that have actually assimilated and integrated, instead of forming initially Muslim enclaves that in time morph into Muslim no-go zones ruled by Sharia and that are in effect tiny Islamic statelets within the larger host infidel states. As a matter of fact, mass Muslim migration to the West is in of itself a form of stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad (holy war) for the long-term strategic purpose of demographic conquest. Muslims never ever assimilate and integrate, as that would constitute blasphemy, which is a capital offense under Islam.

      • defcon 4

        Your position is supported by evidence all over the world, in the here and now. I can’t help but notice that the fantasists who believe in a “moderate”, “peaceful”, fairytale islam, don’t ever really put their theories to the test. They don’t go to Somalia, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Indonesia, Soddy Barbaria, Pakistain and try publicly preaching their peaceful coexistence theories there — because they know it’s BS.

        • fish

          They are all Orthodox because not being Orthodox entails having your head chopped off or at least a severe beating. Muslim’s are the first victims of Islam. They don’t get to choose their religion it is forced upon them by worth.

          One could argue that the brainwashing is so severe that anybody over the age of 7 is pretty much a lost cause in terms of deprogramming, but the optimist within me wants to believe that there are muslims out there who are just “going through the motions” of Islamic ritual because that’s what everybody else does and that’s what society expects them to do, and to do otherwise would bring many unpleasant problems upon themselves. In their hearts though they don’t really give a shit and are not emotionally involved. If the same individual had grown up in France they would be eating cheese and walking around with a baguette under their arm, reading “Le Monde” and voting socialist. Its pure conformism.

          Then there are the True Believers. Islam is their life. They have submitted mind body and soul to Muhummad and they dream only of dying for Allah. These are the ones whom I’d happily put a bullet in the head, with my own hand if necessary, and look them in the eyes while they die.

          In France there ARE many assimilated ex-muslims or “cultural muslims” who speak French as a first language and who hang out with the “natives” rather than with other immigrants. These people are usually the FIRST to try and explain to their non-muslim friends that Islam REALLY IS an inumane barbaric cult, and that “fairy tale” islam does not exist. The “native” French people (at least inner city Parisian ones) don’t have a clue. Those who live side by side with the scum are fully aware of the problem, but they have no power within French politics.

          Even though I don’t think abortion is a deadly sin, I am in general PRO-LIFE. I’m not a pacifist. Sometimes its necessary to kill, but the killing should be kept to a minimum.

          For those who want to exterminate the entire muslim “race” – good luck with that. You will run into some SERIOUS logistic difficulties.

      • fish

        The French colonization of North Africa was not universally hated. There was a section of the Arab population who embraced the French language and French culture in order to better their social standing. 80% of Algerians speak fluent French. Same goes for Tunisians and Moroccans. Most of the francophile North African population has moved to France because the “real” Arabs are too annoying to live with. These people are well integrated into French society. They eat pork and drink alcohol. They may or may not be athiests but they certainly don’t pray at a mosque. Their women are not veilled. Some of these people are my collegues. They hate the muslim brotherhood.

        There is a whole other class of Arabs who came over to work in France during the post war boom. These people are of lower class. They did not integrate into society. The whole “Islamic Revival” which is taking part in the French suburbs [and only an emu could deny that it is taking part] can be explained by a sort of “identity crisis”. The working class Arab immigrants don’t feel like “real” Frenchman. They also don’t feel like Tunisians or Moroccans because they were born in France and may never have even visited these countries. Instead they choose for themselves the identity “muslim”. The problem is further exasperated by Saudi funded mosque who preach extreme violence and hatred (the imam’s should be deported and Saudi mosque building banned).

        There is also the “void” created by the collapse of the communist ideology. When I was growing up I knew quite a few Kurdish athiests who were associated with the PKK (a questionable organization to say the least). The “Italian restaurant” downstairs from my appartment is run by a bloke who calls himself Muhummad. He sells pork and alcohol and his wife is not veiled. He has a group of friends who come to visit regularly who are Algerian Berber communists, and thus presumably athiest. The Berber’s do not like the Arabs.

        There’s also a gang of “youths” who hangout in the same “Italian restaurant”. They are loud and obnoxious. It is impossible to have an intelligent conversation with them. Honestly, I would like to kick their teeth in but I am one small female versus 15-20 fully grown men. Despite all the cocky agressiveness I don’t think they have any real fighting experience. No big muscles or visible scars. Its all bark and no bight.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          Thanks for your brief and very interesting synapses and also for collaborating my post. Indeed, it’s not all the people of Arab descent that are the problem. It’s only the Muslims, no matter where they are from or what their heritage may be.

          That’s also the case with respect to the perpetual jihad, as opposed to an Arab – Israeli Conflict over allegedly disputed land, the Islamic world is waging against the infidel state of Israel through their proxies the so-called Palestinians. People need to understand that it is not a conflict between Arabs and Israelis over disputed land, as that is taqiyya, i.e., a form of stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad used in the case of Israel to dupe gullible useful idiot infidels. Instead, it’s a jihad (holy war) to ultimately not only re-conquer the land for Islam that Israel occupies, but also to subjugate the infidel Jews that currently live in Israel into Islamic totalitarianism via the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

          As a matter of fact, the sole fundamental purpose of mainstream orthodox Islam is the subjugation of all religions and all infidels into Islamic totalitarianism through both violent and non-violent stealth and deceptive jihad (holy war) and the eventual imposition of Sharia (Islamic totalitarian law) to ultimately make Islam supreme throughout the world.

  • docmusic

    the past to the present, from IDIOTIC mohammad, to the caliphate dynasties, onward to
    today’s terrorists wreaking havoc upon the world. Expansive IDIOTIC islam
    is driven by the STUPID Qur’an, one-third of which is devoted to the
    denigration of Jews. The IDIOTIC quotes in the Hadith (the putative
    sayings of STUPID muhammad or a MORONIC report about something EVEN MORE STUPID he did)
    are no less replete with Jewish invective. These STUPID laws divide
    the world “theologically” into those who who accept IDIOTIC islam as a “divine religion”
    and those that do not RIGHTLY.

  • docmusic

    Our reality is starting to read like some dystopia.

    Most of us still do not see further….if
    we don’t stop this political and has-to-be pedophilic ideology and its 2billion
    savages we will also have to become like them…..we as in our children.
    muslims have no option but to behave madly. Every one of these islamic nutcases
    has a polite gentle ancestry like us that was warped and twisted by islamic
    wardens called sheiks and imans and other nutty sounding titles. In case anyone forgets…. all the poison is in
    the recipe book the holey-co-ran. Muslims read this dangerous and stupid book regularly
    to recharge their hate for non-muslims and anything anything anything
    non-islamic. It is Written in Arabic. But at last we are translating and
    understanding…..but we are still to bang it on the UN table. Who will thump the
    co-ran in disgust? The islam file is fattening.

    We , our children’s children will
    have to be muslims. In islam there is no such thing as a non-muslim…it is
    un-thinkable . The islam-Goal is Planet domination….we have to have to have
    to understand this deadly claw. There is no way out of islam. We will have to
    be muslims…..but if islam was smashed we wouldn’t have to worry. Think a bit
    now….got any ideas that might save our kids ? islam the cult is still being classed as a religion.
    That’s the hiccup. Once we re-classify islam as a cult we’re on. Till then its still
    hahalllaaaahhh time.

    Islam is wasting our precious time
    by making us think like this.

    Why is islam around ??…someone
    please tell me.

    muslims are everywhere and questions are raised for
    using firearms on vermin that only looks like us humans….there’s just too
    much red-tape.

    Till ALL the imans are strung and ALL the co-rans caught and
    burnt forever and ever islam will never leave this lovely planet of ours. Easy
    evil is attractive to the most base of minds….its a genetic thing if we
    encourage it. The warping is in them now….the muslim gene has evolved….evil
    pure evil will always exist where islam slimes.

    Everybody believed in god before
    islam came calling……All these current muslim freaks/idiots actually have
    gentle god fearing polite and humble ancestry but that’s gone gone gone now…..
    Their ancestors could not repel the savagery….they had to become what they
    hated or else there was only death….then no family planning as a tenet means
    multiplication of goons to 2billion….it will happen to all …… the full
    planet will be mentally insane when every one of us humans turn muslim. islam
    proves there is no god…..there is only us who can help ours and ourselves.

    Understanding logic? Getting it ?

    If there were Gods Indians would
    be kings ….The Asian Indians….the multi Hindus that stretched from Buddhist
    Afghanistan to Further India now called Burma. There is no God….islam proves
    it …i think this is the ONLY contribution to science islam has ever done or
    can do.

    Afghanistan should be the first
    country cleared off of all the muslims and their dirty retrograde islam c r a p
    and handed back to the Buddhists. The Dalai Lama would be thrilled…..can you
    imagine the joy of the Buddhists on getting their own country back just when
    everybody thought it could never happen….Greater Tibet would be a nice
    name…and they can call it what they want….then Malaysia and so on and so forth.
    A Marshall Plan. Why not ?

    So quiet lethal controlled quick
    bio is the answer….Simple.

  • docmusic

    They are killing
    each other left right and center. …..muslims are totally over-over-overpopulated
    and heavily socially-suppressed very low order dispensable life forms that know
    no reason. All this islamic and co-ranic and mo-ronic muslim rage is only making
    them fearless life forms that know nothing nothing nothing besides the the
    righteousness to kill any living thing……preferably humans but it seems when
    in their cages of countries the only option is each other. That’s cool with us.

    They see how the
    rest of the planet lives and feel the rage of unparalleled jealousy because
    they are told all that is right is totally wrong. They openly seethe with
    jealousy in their idiotic and self caged existence. Muslims are the most
    confused and murderous life forms on the planet exactly like their head honcho
    of long time ago.

    Television is the
    culprit…Without TV these seething life-forms would be totally docile and
    submissive but all this constant good times by humans is very very frustrating
    for constantly frustrated muslim life-forms. The frustrations have set in since
    1400 years…There is no hope for them.

    There is no
    escape for muslims till they introspect their misguided beliefs of an age that
    was terrible to live in and to surpass. As soon as muslim introspection starts
    taking place the top idiots of the cult …the vile clergy will be totally
    visible and jobless. But this will never happen….muslims are doomed to be
    muslims. There is no escape from islam.

  • docmusic

    Why should my taxes feed
    and fatten dirty filthy muslims and other low lifes that want to kill me and
    you and your children and my children and want to rape your wife and daughters
    and want to rape my wife and daughters? Why should my tax money keep alive
    people who want to harm us and kill us? Are you insane? Soon only muslims will
    be the majority in all the jails in the world because islam is an evil and
    dirty cult. Ban islam first. Then talk about human rights. Read the dirty dirty
    koran …get a little educated about filthy islam then come asking for human
    rights. Enough with this dirty islam-nonsense.

    Saudi-arabia is a jewish
    country currently occupied
    by muslims,
    Afganistan is a Buddhist
    country currently occupied
    by muslims,
    Pakistan is a Hindu country
    currently occupied by
    Bangladesh is a Hindu
    country currently occupied
    by muslims,
    Iran is a Zoroastrian
    country currently occupied
    by muslims,
    Malaysia is a hindu country
    currently occupied by
    Egypt is a Christian
    currently occupied by
    Muslim-zombies will have to
    re-convert and re-connect
    to the real religion of their
    peaceful and harmonious
    ancestors prior to their
    unfortunate meeting
    with that total sadistic idiot
    moremad-the-dirty arab and his dirty gang of violent morons and their hate
    violent actions and
    “Non-stop violent and
    dirty blood filled thoughts
    islam is” Yoda would say.
    Dirty dirty islam is no
    Islam stands alone in it’s
    own v o m i t .
    “Filth islam is only ” Yoda
    would say.
    The arabs will have to
    Noble Jews. …because
    the arabs were Noble Jews
    who lived in the desert
    much much before
    moremad-the-dirty-arab came
    charging with madness and
    started slapping the oldies
    and the women around.

  • sustapha

    I will keep on appealing to the so called Western and European Allah fearing and loving elites to understand that the G-d of Abraham, Ishmael Isaac and Jacob cancelled and revoked the monopoly he gave to the Levis with the coming of Muhammad. Restriction in reading the Torah and oral law was cancelled. Let them look for alternative source of understanding Islam and in particular the way Muhammad truly lived. The fire and instability in the ‘Arab regions is enough to look for alternative scholars and clerics outside that region including Turkey, Pakistan and their immigrants in Europe and the East.

    • Candace lucas

      By learning about Muhammed, I assume you mean learning about the dozen or so wives he had, including the 6 year old, the hundreds of slave concubines, the wife that he stole from his own nephew, the 600 Jews he slaughtered because they were Jews and the dozens of caravans where he raided and robbed and slaughtered. Yep….Muhammed. What a prince. Thanks but no thanks, I already know more than I want to about Islam.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Yeah, God chose the raping, murdering pedophile Mohammad (piss be upon him) as a prophet so he could preach that Heaven is a whorehouse for terrorist vermin. Right.

      • sustapha

        Raping! Who raped Dinah?
        Raping! Who raped Uriah’s wife?
        If, you are a Jew and you claim that Muhammad copied from Torah, why accuse him of raping?

        • defcon 4

          Isn’t there a difference between the descriptive passages of the Torah (someone raped someone) and the prescriptive passages of the Koran (you can freely rape your najjis kaffir sex slaves).

  • defcon 4

    The fact that all islamic states persecute people of other faiths (some 57 states and counting) and that no muslimes anywhere have made any efforts to rectify that force me to think otherwise.

    • fish

      There has been a huge amount of resistance to the regime in Iran and it has all been cracked down upon BRUTALLY. If I saw some of my best friends mutilated and hung out to dry in public I may well go into survival mode, shut my big mouth and mumble a few half-hearted prayers.

      The Saudi’s seem to be well and truly fucked from the inside out. If the muslims could be confined to the Arabian peninsular I’d be happy to “live and let beat the shit out of your wife and children”. Just leave me out of it.

      Have you seen the pictures of Afghanistan in the 1960s ?