North Korea Leans Toward Brink of War

In its continuing escalation of threats and psychological warfare, North Korea warned foreigners to evacuate South Korea immediately. “We do not wish harm on foreigners in South Korea should there be a war,” said the KCNA news agency, citing its Korea Asia-Pacific Peace Committee. “The situation on the Korean Peninsula is inching close to a thermo-nuclear war. Once a war is ignited on the peninsula, it will be an all-out war, a merciless, sacred, retaliatory war waged by the DPRK (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea).”

To demonstrate its seriousness, North Korea is now poised to launch a medium-range missile, which it had moved to its east coast. The regime led by the third in the dictatorial Kim dynasty, Kim Jong-un, is said to have made all the final preparations necessary to fire the missile – most likely in a test mode – as soon as this Wednesday.  April 10th also happens to be the day that North Korea had given to foreign embassies to evacuate their personnel from North Korea’s capital Pyongyang to ensure their safety.

This warning followed on the heels of North Korea’s decision to suspend the last vestige of inter-Korean cooperation at the Kaesong joint industrial park just inside North Korea.

Kim Jong-un is going to the brink of war in an effort to consolidate his own power back home and wring concessions from South Korea and the West, as his father and grandfather had done before him. “Pyongyang has mastered the art of appearing unhinged in order to manipulate other powers,” as Stratfor Global Intelligence put it. Only this time, the youthful inexperienced dictator is operating at the razor’s edge with virtually no room for error. Kim Jong-un’s father and grandfather had followed threatening but predictable patterns of behavior. They knew when to pull back, helped by a succession of U.S. presidents who gave in too easily to their demands in order to buy a temporary peace. Kim Jong-un may be trying the same tactic, but is feeling his way awkwardly and encountering more resistance from the international community.

China, which has the most economic leverage to move North Korea off its present war-like footing, has sharpened its own rhetoric aimed at the rogue regime and has backed the strongest United Nations sanctions to date. In a speech last Sunday, China’s new president Xi Jinping leveled what many analysts regarded as a stinging, if indirect, slap at the North Korea regime. He said that “No one should be allowed to throw a region and even the whole world into chaos for selfish gain.”

However, there is no evidence that China has done much of anything concrete beyond this to rein in Kim Jong-un. Nor do we know whether it will even take any steps to enforce the UN sanctions it voted for.

China wants to revert to the relatively stable conditions on the Korean Peninsula that had prevailed, with few major disruptions, from the end of the Korean War to the assumption of power by the unpredictable Kim Jong-un. Not wanting to see a sharp U.S. military build-up in the region in response to Kim Jong-un’s provocations, China is still hoping that he will end up following in his father’s and grandfather’s footsteps and know when to pull back in time from the brink. However, China is aware of the limitations on how far it can pressure Kim Jong-un without causing unintended consequences.

China fears that pulling away North Korea’s lifeline altogether will precipitate one of its worst nightmares – a complete collapse of North Korea, resulting in millions of refugees streaming over its border and a vacuum of power that could ultimately lead to a unified Korea allied with the United States.

The Obama administration has responded to North Korea in a manner that the New York Times characterized as “proportional to the provocation.” It has shown some public displays of military force in the region and is assembling more robust missile defenses. Joint military exercises with South Korea have continued as scheduled, despite all of North Korea’s accusations in justification of its own actions that the exercises are a prelude to a U.S.-South Korean attack against North Korea.

Obama administration officials have also made it clear that they will not be persuaded to negotiate economic assistance to North Korea, as has occurred in the past, to move North Korea away from its belligerent course. Nevertheless, according to a report in The Cable, “a top State Department official met with a top representative of the North Korean government in New York in March.” However, no progress was made. Each side simply reiterated its set positions.

The Obama administration is walking a tightrope, not wanting to appear weak by turning the other cheek to North Korea’s threats and bellicose actions but not going so far as to light the match that could start an out-of-control conflagration.  So far so good, except for Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel’s decision to postpone tests of an intercontinental ballistic missile that had been scheduled for this week. Dictators see any sign of backing down as more weakness to exploit.

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  • κατεργάζομαι

    The biggest current threat to America is: BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!

    • EarlyBird

      Yep. No matter what the subject is, on Front Page Magazine it all comes back to the Evil Barack – Hussein (never forget to remind people of this scary, foreign-sounding name! – Obama!

      Go away, Russian.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        When we have a marxist president of muslim heritage doing what he's trained to do, freedom loving patriots will have problems with it.

        • patriothere

          So then what's your problem with Obama?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You do like to defend marxists of muslim heritage, don't you?

          • patriothere

            WHat's your problem with Obama?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why do you support a marxist of muslim heritage?
            And why do you pretend he's not a failure?

          • patriothere

            Can't even make a simple argument?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You can't. I just used words you struggle with, they're english.

          • patriothere

            What's your problem with obama? Hmmm?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            What is your problem with paid hacks pretending to real people? Nothing, you do it all the time.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

      • Drakken

        Nothing your hero and messiah Comrade Obummer does bothers you because like a good little progressive follower it's all good in your book.

        • EarlyBird

          You're all idiots.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're full of name calling today. What happened? Run out of cheetos?

          • Quackula!

            He ran outta Red Bull, Roger.

          • peter

            Drank to much koo-aid last night maybe?

          • gee59

            But he is full of bull

          • Choi

            NO! The IDIOT IS YOU,TROLL.
            In your world IGNORANCE is TRUE BLISS!

      • Pontotoc Bill

        Actually, the poster is correct. You are nothing but an apologist for Obama.

      • Mary Sue

        that's not Russian letters in that username, that's GREEK. *facepalm*

        it DOES come back to Obama, because this crap is happening on Obama's watch, and they KNOW they can get away with it because they KNOW Obama won't lift a finger to stop them!

        • EarlyBird

          Psst… Hey Mary Sue, let us know when you find Iran on a map, okay?

          • AnOrdinaryMan

            What does Iran have to do with North Korea, pray tell?

          • EarlyBird

            Let lil' Mary Sue explain that to you. She's still looking for "Middle East" on a map.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You really are as stupid as you pretend to be, aren't you?
            http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2013/04/11/co

          • Pontotoc Bill

            In other words, you are stil trying to create more lies and innuendo about others.

            No facts, just name calling. Logic failure known as ad hominem attack.
            ILLOGICAL, bub.

          • Mary Sue

            Technically Iran is part of Asia, NOT the Middle East. Learn you some Geography.

          • http://twitter.com/JapesMacfarland @JapesMacfarland

            Um, Mary, it is bad ideas, or ideologies which we are fighting against. Iran shares these values, world view and theology with much of the rest of the police State Middle East, duh.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            For some reason, about five comments up the middle east was mentioned.
            She responded appropriately.

          • EarlyBird

            "Technically Iran is part of Asia, NOT the Middle East. Learn you some Geography."

            Actually, Mary Sue, even "technically" (whatever that's supposed to mean) Iran is in the "Middle East."

            See, the "Middle East" is a geopolitical term, not a geographic one. Iran – located in Asia – is as much part of the "Middle East" as Egypt – located in Africa, and Israel – located in Asia – are part of the "Middle East."

            See, Mary Sue, there are seven "continents" – major land massess, on Earth. The earth revolves around the sun in what is called a "solar system"…

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You are still lame.
            Middle east was a british term.
            Since the UK isn't the super power the term would be secondary to the geographical terms MS used.

            All that rants was just you showing bad manners.

          • Mary Sue

            I know exactly where Iran is.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            EarlyTurd,

            Mary Sue just exposed you as an ignoramus.
            .

          • EarlyBird

            Screw Up, she's a nice girl. Don't help her further embarrass herself. Literally, in another thread she denied that Iran was in the "Middle East."

            Bless her, next she's going to explain that Peru can not possibly be part of Latin America because it's geographically located in South America. She's a doll!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You were wrong, she was right. Did it bother you that you were owned, or that an infidel woman did it?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            EarlyTurd,

            Your claim that a poster with a Greek handle was Russian, proves you a FOOL.

            Mary Sue was the first to out you.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        EarlyTurd barked:

        "Go away, Russian. "

        Russian?

        LOL!!!

        Boy are YOU dumb.

        • EarlyBird

          Hey! Isn't Russia in Pittsburgh?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You're still dumb.

    • Jorel

      You people are really destined to be deceived until it's just too late. An ostrich with his head in the sand does not escape the inevitable. The muslim leading you has led you to the brink, and like the rats following the pied piper, you are going over the cliff, all the while singing his tune. You continue to excuse all his actions, although sound reasoning dictates what he is doing will not work and that he is actually lying to you. He is responsible for where we are in all relations militarily. He will do nothing more than huff and puff, making you believe he's really concerned. Let me warn you, "The cliff you are falling off of will kill you!"

    • hugo

      Your Right!

  • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

    Yes, N Korea – the basket of all basket cases – with their sidekick in Iran are on the brink – http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/04/07/the-potuss-mi

    The buck stops at Barack HUSSEIN Obama's door!

    Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/

    • EarlyBird

      Shut up, you witch. This has nothing to do with Israel.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        I wonder if you'd expect reasonable people to respond with the same lack of manners that you use?

      • Drakken

        What the norks are doing is called misdirection, look at Iran and what they are doing, so yes it does affect Israel.

        • EarlyBird

          Let's just nuke everybody! Anything less is a sign of weakness and appeasement!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I dont' recall Reagan winning the cold war that way.

            Why don't we follow the FDR approach and just hire them all for government jobs? Anything less is a chance for capitalism to recover and work!

          • onepornqueen

            Hyperbole.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Now now, are you going to start using big words? You know how they confuse him….

      • Mary Sue

        OK that was uncalled-for. >:( She didn't even really mention Israel in that piece there.

        And if you think that her being IN Israel disqualifies her from having an opinion, you're a bigot.

        • EarlyBird

          She is an evil hag, an Israeli who has the gall to insert herself into every single American issue.

          • Mary Sue

            You're a ruddy bigot. She is not evil!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That's funny, only an Iranian would call somebody that just due to origin.

            Well, maybe another islamic rat nest….

          • EarlyBird

            "That's funny, only an Iranian would call somebody that just due to origin."

            Ooooh! You found me out, Rog! I'm actually an Iranian agent sent by Ahmadinejad to tweak reactionaries on Horowitz's Israeli First propaganda site!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So, how is the short and stinky guy doing? Last I heard he's afraid of motorcycles and won't let his scientists drive to work without checking their car doors!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            EarlyTurd,

            You are as much of an American as SHlTler or mohammed.

      • Choi

        Who the F do you think you are to call her a witch and tell her to "SHUT UP" ,especially due to the FACT that you're here as a CYBER-TROLL?!
        You provide PROOF that the LEFT-WING/JIHADI Alliance is DEPENDENT on STOPPING FREE SPEECH.
        Adina "bothers" you because she speaks TRUTH.

        • Mary Sue

          CHOI ACKBAR!

      • Omar

        The North Korean crisis has everything to do with Israel. North Korea is one of 57 countries that do not recognize Israel diplomatically. The world needs to recognize South Korea as the only legitimate government of Korea.

      • Mary Sue

        GTFO, you anti-semite.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        EarlyTurd, Go play in the street during Rush Hour.

  • Chezwick

    No war….just a calculated ratcheting up of tension in order garner attention and extract concessions. Believe me folks, when this crises finally dies down (and it surely will), what will follow is a new international conference where the North will once again promise to modify its behavior and the world will once again respond by lightening sanctions and increasing aid/investment.

    • EarlyBird

      You're exactly right. This is a non-crisis stirred up by NK to shake down the world. We ought not to give them the goodies.

      What we should do is start working on a plan to withdraw US troops from the Korean Peninsula. Once that occurs, China, the party which really controls the fate of NK, does not have to worry about a future unified Korea putting 25,000 US troops on its border. Once we withdraw, NK will come out of the cold as if by magic. That's what it's all about. Our troops there are a Cold War anachronism which have actually helped perpetuate the Cold War.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        We need to start working on a plan?

        We've more than enough plans. Plans are what stupid losers do when actions confuse them.
        We need to find a way to actually win there.

        • trickyblain

          "Plans are what stupid losers do when actions confuse them. "

          Spoken like a man who has never lead a team, managed a project, or organized resources to accomplish a goal.

          "We need to find a way to actually win there."

          You mean like a "plan"?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Spoken like a liberal who thinks it takes an entire village to raise a single child.

            And I meant win as a verb, an action.
            You mean having a plan as a noun, something printed up and in a binder.

          • EarlyBird

            Blain, be warned, Roger is a boy in a man's body.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And you're a troll in a human body.
            Can't rise above personal attacks? I can do that too, but I'd rather discuss issues.

          • EarlyBird

            You deserve nothing but mockery and scorn, "Serious Mind." You're an absolute fool.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Says the troll who hides his name and face. You can't even use your first name, can you? You have this catchy little name that hides your ethnic origin and come here pretending you can do every propagandist trick to try weakening our resolve for self defense.

            Tokyo Rose had nothing on you.

          • EarlyBird

            Ah! My "ethnic origin!" Now we get to what motivates you, not ideas, not politics, not values…but "ethnic origin!"

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Now we see what buttons panic you.

            Not us sharing ideas, not us defending our values.
            Just the fact that achmed might be outed for what he is….

          • Choi

            Nope,nor did AXIS SALLY,HANOI HANNAH,LORD HAW-HAW.

          • Drakken

            Typical liberal/progressive tactics, call names and have a fit, it would be very amusing if you and your ilk weren't so dangerous to the US .

          • EarlyBird

            Watch out, you combat hardened Gunny Sergeant, but we're about to be nuked by North Korean savages!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why do you trolls think that if you are driven away from one profile you sound any better coming back anonymously as a guest?

          • EarlyBird

            "Guest"? More paranoia, Rog.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            More stupidity guest commenter using the name earlybird?

          • Omar

            EarlyBird, you deserve mockery and scorn along with your Communist and Islamist friendly values. You are a puppet of Cuban imperialism and North Korean aggression against democracy in the world.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            EarlyTurd, Get yer your fat head out of yer fat butt.

        • EarlyBird

          "Win" what, Roger? Another war? To what purpose?

          A "win" for the US and the world would be a unified, peaceful Korea, with whom we could trade and cooperate, rather than going through these perrennial missile threats and shakedowns by the evil midgets, and watching another few generations of North Koreans starve to death in a gulag state.

          A big part of that is to bring our troops home, finally after 60 years, so as to not have their presence threaten China, which is what this is all about. They use NK as a buffer between themselves and US troops in SK.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You are a fool. You are a useful idiot to be more precise.

            You conveniently ignore Reagan winning the cold war. How many fronts was that won on? And how many battalions did we lose to hostile fire in that war?

            A big part of it is not to bring troops home, but to make it so clear they can't win any fight they look for other ways to vent aggression.

          • EarlyBird

            You infant, Reagan was one of many serious anti-communists who "won the Cold War." He didn't do it single handedly in eight years, as much as we should admire him.

            The better analogy was his wisdom in NOT getting into unnecessary fights. He had the maturity and wisdom to get out of Lebanon after the massacre of our marines there, rather than digging deeper into that hornets' nest. Imagine. He realized he had maybe made a mistake to begin with, and changed his plans, rather than acting like some macho teenage boy on the playground. You and your fellow right wing Neanderthals would have a stroke today if any president took such a conservative action.

            Your lack of wisdom, your lack of evidence of an adult experience, is just bizarre coming from a biological male old enough to grow a ridiculous moustache. You can't possibly be as immature as you pretend to be.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Reagan used tactics that you deride here. Why?
            Why do you want us the US at every single possible disadvantage?

          • AnOrdinaryMan

            But your guy Obama has orchestrated the overthrow of Mubarak in Egypt; has gotten the U.S. into an unecessary action in Libya, resulting in Islamist take-over of that country, and his running guns to the Al-Qaeda rebels in Syria. Doesn't say much for HIS maturity, does it? You want to talk about Reagan in Lebanon? Reagan ordered the USS New Jersey to bombard the Bekaa Valley, in 1984; as retaliation for the October 1983 truck bombing of the Marines in Beirut.

          • Choi

            Keep playing from your "Alinsky" playbook you fool.
            IT WON'T WORK HERE, but you do provide a LIVING EXAMPLE of " Cyber-Troll Lefties in Action".

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Amen!

          • EarlyBird

            So funny, Choi, but nobody knew the name "Alinksy" (including myself) until Obama first ran for prez, and now "Alinsky" is thrown around on this site like "Hitler" or "Stalin." You just know "Alinsky" means "bad" and "to the left of me," which basically is 98% of human kind.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The tactics are the same, you didn't seem to have the heart to try denying it.

      • Drakken

        Weakness in the face of naked aggression only invites war. If you think the norks will make nice once we leave you are clearly beyond delusional, great job Chamberlein want to be, you have made the world a more dangerous place.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          Well said, you must have a connection to reality. That puts you far above them in any debate.

        • EarlyBird

          Stop wetting yourself. Not every crisis is '39 Europe. Not every tyrant is Hitler.

          No, overreacting out of paranoid, macho, insecure nationalism to an insignificant gnat like NK which makes noises and threatens fantasies it can't possibly back up, is exactly how to make the world a more dangerous place.

          Grow up.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

          • EarlyBird

            Golly! Did you make that one up all by yourself?

            Fool, again, not every single crisis is 1930 Europe. Not every situation is the beginning of a World War. Wake the Eff up, you silly little man.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You brushed it off. Telling.

          • Drakken

            Your lack of insight, and wisdom is only made up by your liberal wishful emotional thinking that always leads to war in the end instead of preventing it.

          • Mary Sue

            what makes you think you have the analytical skills to actually determine what sort of crisis this is right this minute? With the prism you're looking through of leftism, you're going to be wrong every time.

          • EarlyBird

            Go away you pathetic airhead.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I certainly hope you're speaking to yourself.

          • Chezwick

            EARLYBIRD: "No, overreacting out of paranoid, macho, insecure nationalism to an insignificant gnat like NK which makes noises and threatens fantasies it can't possibly back up, is exactly how to make the world a more dangerous place."

            RESPONSE: North Korea's leader may be paranoid and insecure, but to characterize a nuclear state with an ICMB missile-delivery capability as an "insignificant gnat" clearly reveals a lack of acuity in ascertaining threat-levels.

            North Korea is indeed practicing brinksmanship,…we can agree on that, but America's withdrawing from the peninsula in the absence of any resolution to the over-all existing conflict of two irreconcilable regimes facing-off against each other would be irresponsible in the extreme.

          • EarlyBird

            If were to announce today that we were leaving the peninsula, that would be irresponsible, and a reward to NK's aggression.

            But ultimately, we need to ask a couple of questions: A.) Why are we still there 60 years after the Korean War, when SK is more than capable of taking care of itself with US arms? B.) What hasn't China, NK's master, not brought NK into the civilized world by now?

            I think the answer to "B" is that as long as we remain unnecessarily in SK, we are threat to China, and they want NK as a buffer. I expect if we were to depart SK, we'd see NK come into the light very quickly, and we wouldn't have these perennial crises any more.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            As long as there are bad people who want to kill us, we need every advantage we can keep. Korea is ours, and it should stay in our realm of influence.

            And as long as we are necessarily there, the crazy and hostile north is stopped.

          • patriothere

            The cold war is over. South korea is an ally, and we should act in accordance with the law. If we have defense pacts signed with the south then we should honor them.

            We should not risk going to war with china over this nonsense. Diplomacy always works when tried. It's tried and true.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            The soviets collapsed. There is a cold war of a different sort.
            China vs free China in Taiwan.
            North Vs South Korea

            And we are acting in accordance with the law, we defend our allies. In this case South Korea is faced with an aggressive hostile enemy to their north. And you're the one that pretends anything we do will force China into action.

            I suggested dropping a chunk of concrete from a stealth bomber to damage the launch site and you wanted cruise missiles. That was stupid for you to advocate for the very thing that would result in the consequences you keep screaming about.

            You aren' that bright and your approach to nuance is laughably bad.

          • patriothere

            The cold war is over. There is no cold war. There is china, our creditor who we need to have good relations with. Restarting the korean war is not a good idea in forming good relations with china.

            Unless we have signed a defense pact with SOuth Korea we will defend them. They are an ally of ours but we must be in accordance with the law.

            I'm for diplomacy troll.Diplomacy. diplomacy always wins out.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Does Iran get credit from Chinese banks? Is that why your handlers have you support them?

          • patriothere

            What does Iran have to do with North Korea?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why deny any connection?
            You know very well Iran had technicians in Korea for the tests.

          • patriothere

            There is no real connection other than propagandists trying to sell war.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Says the paid hack here to make a living repeating approved talking points.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            Roger 169p · 23 hours ago
            The Almighty gives life and it's His place to take it away. You can't show those Egyptians were perfect and didn't deserve it.

            The account shows God gave them several times to do the right thing

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, I still think that's a great comment.
            No suicide bombers for the Almighty, He does his own dirty work. You're just not used to a real God that can act on His own.

          • patriothere

            Of course you do. Are you gonna go picket the funerals of those killed at the boston marathon with your other westboro baptist church members or are you going to stay at home?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            A great quote, are you realizing it finally?

          • Drakken

            Diplomacy always wins out?? History would argue that with you and tell you different.

          • patriothere

            No it wouldn't. Diplomacy is the reason why you can look out your window and not be worried about missiles flying in your home.

            Diplomacy works. If we backed off a little, they wouldn't be able to use us as an excuse to consolidate power. North korea would implode all on its own.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            That's not diplomacy.

            Diplomacy buys dictators time to build strength, like Hitler did after Neville acted the diplomat.

          • patriothere

            Diplomacy works. It's what has kept the peace between europe for so long.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You ignore all history and facts to say that.
            But then it's working for iran now as they hurry their nuclear program along.

            You love to use propaganda, since it pays so well for you.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            Europe is at peace because of diplomacy.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Nope, they're in peace because of WW2 and the cold war being won.

          • Mary Sue

            No.

          • Choi

            LMAO AT YOU.
            In this post,you DEMONSTRATE the LEFTY TACTIC of "Move on,Nothing to see "here".

          • EarlyBird

            Choi, what does LMAO mean? Are you twelve?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            What does early bird mean? Are you twelve?

          • Mary Sue

            Laughing My Ass Off. which is what we're all doing at your pedantic, kindergarten level analysis.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            EarlyTurd,

            Stop appeasing socialism and islamofascism.

          • EarlyBird

            Screw Up, in the event NK so much as fires a pop gun at us, I want the US to devastate that wretched regime. Clear?

            And ultimately, we'd do better getting out of the Korean Peninsula altogether. If recognizing that we won a war 60 years ago and have no further need to protect South Korea, and thereby bring our troops home is "appeasement," so be it. But then, that's like saying that because we no longer have marines storming the beach at Iwo Jima we "appeased" Japan.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You are so lame.
            Even for a liberal troll you are so lame. Public 'union teacher' education?

    • http://twitter.com/JapesMacfarland @JapesMacfarland

      I sure hope you're right.

  • Mr. Smith

    The North Korean missile is being launched on April 15, 2013.

    If & when it does, you should consider why that is known by a podunk person like myself.

  • Intermission

    Dear Zelalem,

    You are needed. You serve a purpose, which is to bring levity to a serious situation.

    This is a device used by story tellers throughout the ages. Tension can be held by an audience for so long. So story tellers insert humorous stories (a break in the action) into the larger story arc to break the tension before continuing with the main story arc.

    Please write again zany zelalem.

  • Billyb9

    US has to send a clear signal that we're not playing around, and regardless of what warhead (or any) the next missile has on it or regardless of our knowledge of it's destination- It needs to be intercepted on the launch pad.

    • Bring It

      I disagree. the left would have a field day with this. It would throw fuel on the fire that is the 5th column. the Russian, Chinese, Iranians, Venezuela and every other American hating cabal running a country would have a field day. I might have proposed the very thing you wrote and strenuously so for the last 20 years.

      If North Korea tries to aim a missile over Japan and splash it into the Northern Pacific for a test, we know this is really a threat to Japan. they are saying we can hit you anytime we want, we are crazy and you had better appease us. All the while the threat has plausible deniability.

      If we shoot down their test missile, when it overflies Japan (assuming it does), their test will be cut short, but our test will silence ballistic missile defense to a large extent. The North Koreans will not have telemetry data for a complete test. They won't know if they have achieved the range they want because their test was a aborted by us (U.S. or allies). A successful shoot down will shoot down will
      buttress the hawks in Japan, take the wind out of the sails of the Japanese left & encourage the Japanese people to increase the Japanese armed forces. If North Korea does not want the Japanese to enlarge their defense forces, they simple have stop threatening people.

      Look at this way. If the North fires a missile, they will pick up 50% of the cost for our very realistic test of our ballistic missile defenses. They lose we win.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Postol
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_missile_de
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegis_Ballistic_Miss
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Mis

      • Billyb9

        A: Nobody knows how stable Jung-un is- all indications are that he's not carrying on his fathers interest in bilking funds from rich countries.

        B: NorK is advising that ALL foreign diplomats leave the country. With all the rest of the North Korean threats in the past this has never been done before.

        C: Liberals would love it- as it would prove that their beloved leader truly has a pair. Obama can't do anything wrong.

        I'm confident that the bigger the intercepting device is the better the effect for cowing China, Russia, Iran etc… Maybe 20 megaton or so.

        The USA is still the only country that has proven itself crazy enough to use a nuke in war- but that was more than a half a century ago. Seems that our enemies might need a reminder.

        • Ron

          We weren't crazy. We wanted to end the war fast and save American lives. Thank God we got the bomb first.

        • Bring It

          Bigger would send a statement. They could also say there is a small increase in child hood cancers etc due to radiation form the interceptors explosion. The old Nike missiles of the 1960s were nuclear tipped.

          Finesse in shooting a bullet with a bullet would show such technical prowess that it would also cow the international bullies. And there would be no radiation the air to drift down.

          • EarlyBird

            If we shot down a nuclear-tipped NK missile, wouldn't it give off radiation? Or does it actually exit the atmosphere and then return?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It would give off less than if it exploded.

            Why do you always want the very worst possible outcome in any situation?

          • EarlyBird

            I'm asking a technical question which is above your head. If you can't understand this converation, keep your weasel face and cookie duster moustache out of it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It's not over my head. They have nuclear material encased to protect workers assembling the warhead. Knocking that into the sea is safer than letting it explode.

            Did I use enough small words for you?

          • Mr Smith

            You are asking stupid questions that you can answer with a websearch or a wiki search or by reading the Federation of American Scientist.

            Your just a useless leftist pretending to be an innocent asking innocent questions.
            To be as ignorant as yourself a person has to practice.

          • EarlyBird

            In other words, Mr. Smith, you don't know and don't care. You just want war.

          • gee59

            Actually moron he did answer you – but you lack the intelligence to comprehend that until a nuclear mass goes critical it merely throws fairly low level radiation – even if the warhead is exploded.

            A two second search of the internet and one can find a site that explains the process to all but the feeble minded. Oh wait that might be too advanced for you

          • Choi

            ANOTHER LEFTY/ALINSKY TACTIC:
            CALL the opposition PATRIOTS 'Warmongers and /or Racists"
            Let me let you in on something:
            Being CALLED WHAT YOU'RE NOT BOTHERS NOBODY.
            A Racist CHOOSES to be a RACIST!!
            And standing for NATIONAL DEFENSE does NOT make one a WARMONGER!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Survival appeals to some, but not all evidently.

            So, either early doesn't want to survive or he's not posting from the US.

          • patriothere

            For you, however it's all in gods hands. You don't believe in evolution. If north korea nukes san diego, so what? It was gods will.

            ACtually because of your westboro baptist church ideology america getting nuked is god punishing us for letting gays marry.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            There is a saying "God helps those who help themselves".

            And if you like the Westboro church so much, attend there. I don't agree with them. Not on their tactics anyhow. I just can't recall Jesus ever going to a funeral to protest anything. The funerals He did attend usually were cancelled because he resurrected the dead.

          • patriothere

            You're the one that moved to nebraska to be a part of the westboro baptist church. You can try to proselytize me but it won't work.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Still can't actually address my point.

            How many funerals did Jesus go to? How many were still going on as He left?

          • patriothere

            What was your point.

            Jesus did not just teach love god and love your fellow man. That is what liars like you try to peddle. But it just aint so.

            Luke 14:26

            New International Version (NIV)

            26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You really think that's going justify your iranian master from hiring terrorists in Syria, and all the other places?

            And why don't you quote the verse before and after that to show God should be first over our earthly ties?

            Jesus taught that God was the first commandment and love for others second, it doesn't contradict anytthing.

            You are such a sad paid muslim hack.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • patriothere

            Jesus did not just teach love god and love your fellow man. That is what liars like you try to peddle. But it just aint so.

            Luke 14:26

            New International Version (NIV)

            26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And when Jesus said God had to be first He meant it. But it never says in this to use violence or honor killings or anything islamic. So, what was your point?

            Oh, you are trying to say Jesus taught evil. Didn't work.

          • patriothere

            My point is you are wrong. You said your jeebus only taught to love god and love your neighbor. Obviously that is not true.

            Luke 14:26

            New International Version (NIV)

            26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Jesus was clear about God coming before anything else.

            And that text when read with the one before and after is pretty clear about it.

            So, you're still the paid hack troll here to stop serious debate and drive everyone out.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • Billyb9

            It would give off radiation in the same manner as a "dirty bomb". It would not cause an explosion (except the one we used to take it down) Radiation caused by it would remain localized. It wouldn't be an atomic reaction though, just a radiation "leak".

          • EarlyBird

            I'm asking this: my understanding of modern ICBMs is that they exit the atmosphere, and then re-enter over the target area. To our knowledge is NK capable of this? Or, put another way, if we were to shoot it down, would we be hitting in the atmosphere, or outside of it?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why should we chance Iran helping them enough to manage either scenario?

          • Mr Smith

            Like I said you affect ignorance.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_missile_de

          • EarlyBird

            I know how ICBMS work, idiot. I indicated that in my question. The question is does NK have this type of missile. Not every missile is an ICBM.

            Pull your head out.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            If you knew how ICBM's work you wouldn't have asked and sounded confused the way you have.

          • EarlyBird

            Oh, the answer is: "NO, they do not have ICBMs. The furthest they are likely able to fire a missle at this time is somewhere into the mid-Pacific.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Likely, then you go to a major city in that 'unlikely' range and hope you're right. Wasn't Pearl Harbor 'unlikely' too?

        • EarlyBird

          Yep, everything is always about liberals vs. conservatives, Left vs. Right. Absolutely everything!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And you can show nothing to explain why you think he's actually wrong.

          • Billyb9

            It's true- I didn't start it and I'm not claiming that I can change it- so I keep on suggesting ways that the lovely leftys can be heros of the world. It would still go on (as it did when Brother Obama killed his Brother Osama nrknrk) But it would matter not- as Obama, as did President Truman, would go down in history as a hero that saved the world from a lot of grief and destruction.

            Imagine- all Obama's screwups being redeemed in his legacy by taking out an out of control tyrant-

            See- kind of like that.

          • Choi

            BECAUSE of the LEFT'S OBSESSION WITH "CONSTANT STRUGGLE"

          • EarlyBird

            Gee, that's funny Choi. But I've been a life-long regisered Republican, have voted a straight, 100% Republican ticket in my state of California, and for every Republican candidate for Pres but for McCain and Romney. And I was very close to voting for Romney.

            I am a military veteran and a gun enthusiast (read "nut").

            I know of Horowitz and this hideous hate site of his because of my past contributions to his college "heterodoxy" campaign, and have admired him, read "Radical Son," regularly read NRO and American Conservative, and among my heroes are Reagan and Buckley.

            And all along I've been on the "left"! What a shock for me to find out.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            What a shock that you think we'd believe you!

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Ask your commie professors why the US didn't drop A bombs on more cities?

          Like Berlin or Moscow?

          • Billyb9

            I know, Right? Stupid commie professors.

            Crazy seems to have had the wrong connotation here. It's not that the US- or even Truman was crazy. The dropping of those bombs saved a good 500,000 to a million people, plus put the US at peace for a good 50 years.

            The perception to others wanting to do us harm is very important. And it doesn't help the we have a fem brat metro man sitting in the White House right now.

      • Omar

        One method to help our cause is to replace Putin with a pro-Western leader in Russia.

  • UCSPanther

    The only thing that North Korea would be doing, is committing suicide by superpower..

  • dannyjeffrey44

    This is the first that I have written about the North Korean problem. I have read many opinions as to what is taking place and cannot help but feel that many come up short of the real story. This is my interpretation. http://www.freedomrings1776.com/2013/04/war-and-r

    • Cassandra

      This is the best analyze of the problem with north Korea i read so far . Thanks for posting it.

      • dannyjeffrey44

        Thank you Cassandra. I appreciate your taking time to read my essay, and am certainly pleased that you agree with my logic.
        Danny

    • Jack

      "Under the 1994 Agreed Framework, the U.S. government agreed to facilitate the supply of two light water reactors to North Korea (which were never completed). Such reactors are considered "more proliferation-resistant than North Korea's graphite-moderated reactors," but not "proliferation proof"

      + food for thestarving & oil

      - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_nuclear

      You do not remember a North Korean problem when Clinton was president? Or that it continued under Bush?

      Are you messing with us?

    • Drakken

      Your right on the money, and I dare say I think that very bad things will come to pass.It amazes me that folks of the left always believe , peace and appeasment at any price will lead to a peaceful world full of rainbows and unicorns, while history has always taught us that it always leads to worse things later.

      • EarlyBird

        You just can't WAIT for another world war, can you, General? You lay awake at night dreaming of it.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          You just can't wait for another chance to push your propaganda points!

        • Drakken

          It is not a fact that I can't wait for a war, it is the fact that useful idiots of the left like you always make them worse than what they should be, I believe in being proactive instead of being reactive. I believe we should never let our enemies shine in our weakness and always peace through attila the hun like strength,ruthlessness, with a mailed fist. It is always better to be feared than loved,for when they fear you, they respect you.

        • Mary Sue

          You don't know what causes world wars, do you?

          • EarlyBird

            Do you know how World War I started? Hint: it wasn't some tyrant hell bent on genocide who was appeased by Chamberlain. It was started by nationalist idiots like you, in charge of actual whole countries and armies, who unnecessarily blundered into a war.

            You tell me, what do we have to fear so much from NK that we need to actually start a war? Ultimately, what are we trying to accomplish? Why can't we just shoot down their little missile and call it a day? These are not trick questions, little girl. THINK!

          • Pontotoc Bill

            More nonsense.

            World War I? Chamberlain? Didn't happen, bub.

            Chamberlain was during the runup to World War II.

            BTW: Do you WHAT is required to shoot down a missile? It is NOT as easy as you make it seem. There is no dependable system now.

            You've been reading tooo much Clancy.

          • EarlyBird

            "Chamberlain was during the runup to World War II."

            No s**t Sherlock! I specifically differentiated Chamberlain and WWII from World War I. Learn to read.

            There was no good reason for Europe to engage in the horrific carnage of World War I, and those countries gained NOTHING, but for setting the stage for WWII.

            But I'll ask you, military genius: What is America's option right now in regard to NK? Don't tell me nonsense about "We need to stop appeasing" or some BS. What specifically should we be doing that we are not doing? Shooting first? We are on absolute High Alert.

            You hysterics act like Obama has surrendered an aircraft carrier to Pyonyang or something.

            Hey Kids: welcome to the negative sides of empires. You end up with evil midgets threatening you with nukes for no apparent reason, because we've had troops parked across his border 60 years too long. We should have brought them home a long time ago.

          • Drakken

            Hey Sparky here is an idea, why don't you go there and wave a white flag and sing a little kumbaya to them and tell them you really maddly want to be friends, and don't forget to cross the fence when you do it and don't forget your peace sign.

          • Mary Sue

            Germany started WW I for no good reason, this much is true.

            However, once the ball got rolling, the allies pretty much had to take care of that.

            ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? Leave S. Korea unprotected for 60 years?! You really hate South Koreans, don't you?

          • Pontotoc Bill

            Your lack of knowledge of military affairs is quite laughable.

            As for learning to read, I can. You did NOT clearly differentiate Chamberlain and World War II or World War I. You may in your head, but your words do not.

            What do we do? Wait and see if Kim starts something. If he does, then respond with overwhelming military power. Until then, Si vis pacem, para bellum.

          • EarlyBird

            "What do we do? Wait and see if Kim starts something. If he does, then respond with overwhelming military power. Until then, Si vis pacem, para bellum."

            Exactly, Bill! We could not agree more on this point. And we can be certain that the US WOULD respond in such a manner.

            The US and SK military have war gamed every possible scenario to death for decades. We are as prepared and on alert and ready to respond as we can possibly can be. There is nothing more the US or Obama can "do" to be more prepared.

            The absurdity of this wretched propaganda site is its suggestion that Obama, out of lefty weakness or "Marxist" malice, wants to intentionally see America harmed by NK. It is just nonsense, and people on this site piping up to agree with that should be embarrassed.

          • Pontotoc Bill

            Sorry, but we are NOT prepared as well as we could be. Wargaming every possible scenario is just that – gaming.

            Actually, Obama could do more. Let Kim know absolutely that any funny business would result in the destruction of the NK leadership. Not a threat, just a fact of life.

            However, I highly doubt that the President has the stones for that.

          • Pontotoc Bill

            Not really Marxist malice, but you have to admit that President Obama is enamoured of leftist policies that result in harm to America. To him, there is no such thing as the United States of America being better than any country.

            Having lived in over a dozen, I KNOW the US is better than most countries.

          • Mary Sue

            I'm not a Nationalist Idiot, fathead. I'm not a Nationalist, either. It was caused by Germany being stupid. It was *triggered* by the shooting of the Archduke Ferdinand by a Serbian assassin, Germany just wanted an excuse to go to war.

  • pierce

    I wish they would hurry up, as I can't wait to see our response.

    All hail Mr. Bluster.

    • EarlyBird

      Here's what will happen: NK will fire a missile, and it will land harmlessly in the Pacific, or will be shot down by US missile frigates. And NK will get nothing whatsoever out of this ridiculous crisis – no power, no goodes, nothing – except more glory at home for Great Leader. And Front Page Magazine will say something like: "NK fired on Americans with nukes, and Obama, being an anti-American dictator, just shrugged, thereby emboldening Iran."

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Isn't it time you go back to your 'gun free zone' coloring books from a Soros backed media outlet?

      • Drakken

        This situation is not like the othes before Sparky, so at this point anything is possible, but you can bet your hero Obummer will f**k it up, especially with Val Jarret the power behind the throne.

        • EarlyBird

          Oh boy! Maybe we'll have a war! Can't wait!

          Listen, General, we're gonna see if you have the character to come back and admit you were wrong and I was right after this crisis deflates.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            As long as you push for us to lose it, you probably would not protest too loudly.

          • Drakken

            Unlike you, I am happy to admit when I am wrong, unfortunately it is not often.

          • EarlyBird

            How is this so different from past saber rattling? And, specifically, how should we respond differently? Our forces are on high alert and ready for war. What more do you want to be done at this time, invent an even Higher Alert? Shoot first?

            You don't seem to think past the immediate moment.

            Come on, General, you're our resident military expert. What should be done that has not been done? Not generalities about "not wussing out" or some BS, but actual, real, concrete things that your fellow Joint Chiefs of Staff are some how missing?

          • Drakken

            The minute they put one of those No Dong 2's on a pad to fire, send in a cruise missle to take it out, you cannot depend on a so called missle defense system that is unreliable, unless of course you want to wait till it is fired and see where it goes? One way or another the norks are going to fire something at us or the SK's and it ain't going to be pretty. The bottom line, they will do something, otherwise the norks will lose face.

          • EarlyBird

            Brace yourself, Drakk. But I agree that may be a good move.

          • Mary Sue

            there's more likely to be war if an idiot like Obama CAVES.

          • EarlyBird

            And HAS he "caved" dear one? Define "cave."

            Hey listen I'll be the first to criticise him if he hands over Hawaii, okay?

            You're all a bunch of illogical, ridiculous, hysterical freaks!

          • Choi

            SHE SAID IF you A$$#ole!
            NOW we have the very popular LEFT-WING "projection" tactic known as "TURNSPEAK".
            Because the LEFT is ".. a bunch of illogical, ridiculous, hysterical freaks",this TROLL ACCUSES US of what he/they are.

          • Mary Sue

            Race card: 50 dollars
            Nationalist card: 75 dollars
            Ad hominem card: 100 dollars
            Straw Man: 300 dollars

            Total and utter lack of reading comprehension: Priceless.
            For everything material in life, there's money.
            For everything else, there's the Liberal Card.

          • Drakken

            Priceless Mary Sue absolutely Priceless!

          • Mary Sue

            what kind of brain damage did you sustain as a child or adult that causes you to think such ridiculous things seriously?

  • Rifleman

    Lol, everyone falls into formation at nork rallies.

    • trickyblain

      The soldier second from right looks like he's about 95!

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        95 pounds?
        95 IQ.

  • Rifleman

    Sounds like he wants more US money, food, and maybe a few more breeder reactors built for him by us.

    • Jack

      We never finished building the reactors because his father never stopped being a pr_ck. But they did get the food, oil and they scored basketball autographed by Michael Jordan.

      You would fall into formation too if you lived over there and you would go through great pains to ensure your displayed enthusiasm was not tepid.

    • EarlyBird

      "Sounds like he wants more US money, food, and maybe a few more breeder reactors built for him by us."

      I think you're exactly right, Rifleman. And so, unless the US does give him these things, we haven't lost anything in this ridiculous crisis. The idea forwarded by the cretinous propagandists writing for this site is that any American attempt to de-escalate this unwanted crisis is "weakness." How absurd.

      If we avoid the war and don't reward NK with goodies after this, we win.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Yes, we lost something.
        Internationally every petty thug sees they can spit on us, and we don't do a thing.

        We look like a paper tiger. That's a huge step down, and one our president/dictator wants.

        • trickyblain

          Can you remind us of why a "dictator" would want to appear weak? Don't most "dictators" overstate their power?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            What book does he enjoy reading?
            One on a post American world.
            http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://factch

          • trickyblain

            Have you read the book, Roger?

            If you think it's an "anti-American" screed describing the end of the US, then clearly the answer in "no."

            Sheesh, did you even read the website that your linked image comes from???
            http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/obamas-reading-m

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Have you read the book? It lays out how the world would be better with the US super power status reduced. And I could have linked to any of a dozen sources, unless you can show the picture is fake why are you attacking my link?

            You liberal progressives always go for the personal attacks on anything that honestly shows how bankrupt you are on ideas and facts.

          • trickyblain

            I've read the book and it's pretty good. Nothing in it describes "how the world would be better with the US super power status reduced." Nothing. That's a fact.

            It's actually is a long essay on how the US can retain supreme status as a world power in an age in which other nations' power is also rising. The economy has gone global (hence the title of the book) and the US is no longer the sole center of the fiscal world. Zakaria is suggesting how we stay on top in the midst of global economic change.

            Never said the picture was fake and I'm not attacking your link. Just pointing out that it's pointed to Factcheck.org. Another fact. It disputes everything you are claiming about the book. Yet another fact. You basically debunked your own claim by posting the link. Not a personal attack — a reality.

          • Drakken

            If you believe that if the US power is reduced that we will be a more peaceful world? Your dumber than a effing bag of hammers if you believe that.

          • trickyblain

            Can you point to where I even hinted at such a claim? The following seems to be saying the exact opposite:

            "I've read the book and it's pretty good. Nothing in it describes "how the world would be better with the US super power status reduced." Nothing. That's a fact."

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            If we stay the same and everyone else is more powerful, then we're not a super power by definition. I was right, and you just dissembled.

            The Title ought to be an indicator of that. "Post American world…"

          • trickyblain

            Not sure what you're "right" about. You haven't said anything. Just filling the board with your hysterical delusions of grandeur, per usual.

            You poor thing.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Too many big words again?
            You really can't keep up.

          • Choi

            As you said to the TROLL"
            "You liberal progressives always go for the personal attacks on anything that honestly shows how bankrupt you are on ideas and facts"

            YET ANOTHER ALINSKY TACTIC!

            I'm beginning to think the TROLL has Alinsky's" Rules for Radicals" right next to his/her keyboard and is going down a checklist.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I'm afraid evil is alive and well in the world.

          • trickyblain

            Oh, so now anyone who disagrees with you is "EVIL."

            You poor, pathetic creature.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, evil comes in many guises.

            And I'd risk a lot of misplaced labels before I'd agree with your ilk.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            EVIL = socialism and islamofascism.

          • EarlyBird

            Roger doesn't read books.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And you, do you mind if I call you achmed? You want my country to succeed?

          • Mary Sue

            Because fatheadcheck is always right, isn't it? [/sarcasm]

            Hint: no

          • trickyblain

            I'm not always right, either. But I've ACTUALLY READ THE F'ING BOOK.

            Either the book makes takes the positions that stupid chain email claims that was, or it doesn't. In the actual pages of the actual book it doesn't.

            While Obama indeed read the book, the book is not about what hysterical loons claim it's about.

            Not much grey area there.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, it does. You must be confused by the big words.

          • trickyblain

            What big word? Fatheadcheck?

            You poor thing.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            My finances are fine, thanks.
            And you still pretend you can decide what an entire book says even over the author's intentions for it? Wow….. how NY Times of you.

        • EarlyBird

          Sure. Because every little spat needs to be countered with hyper-aggressiveness. Because Roger is insecure about the size of his genitalia.

          Thank God the majority of Americans consider fools like you and your approach to the world ridiculous.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why is it when challenged on your failed ideas you respond with name calling?

            And our country isn't supporting your thinking on failed cowardice.

          • Drakken

            I just really enjoy your Chamberlain worldview, and in your little world it will always lead to peace right??

          • EarlyBird

            Sorry you missed your war, General.

            Some threats need to be responded to aggressively. Some do not. This one does not.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And what threat needs to have that strong response? The threat that Israel will assure it's own survival?

          • EarlyBird

            You seem a bit scattered today, Rog. What about Israel? We're talking about the saber rattling come out of North Korea. Try to focus.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Hey, early bird. You said some threats need to be responded to aggressively.
            I gave an example of that. You are so scattered today, try to focus.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            EarlyTurd is crippled from too many drugs.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Clearly crippled…

          • Mary Sue

            Conflict Resolution doesn't work with bullies. Not with school age ones, and not with Leader of a Country ones.

          • EarlyBird

            And what, exactly, do you expect to come from this current crisis with North Korea, Mary Sue? Care to elaborate, or are you just repeating absurd slogans that you've learned to repeat?

            When was the last time you've really thought for yourself?

          • Choi

            AGAIN ,Projection by the TROLL.
            The regulars here all think for themselves.
            That's why they LOVE FREEDOM.
            YOU on the other hand are a LEFTY ROBOT BEING PAID TO BE HERE.!

          • EarlyBirdb

            No, I am a life long Republican, conservative, USAF veteran, you nut. A real conservative, not a right wing hysteric.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You are many things. You are most certainly a nut.

            Go ahead and make up some other background.. you forgot to include a 7 digit income annually. They usually put that in on fake backgrounds.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Choi, the trolls that circle waiting for a story to pounce on with propaganda.

            They used to have a whitty name and try to build a high score. But some of us started explaining and exposing them and they realized they had to go underground of sorts.

            So, this one… http://intensedebate.com/people/schlomotion

            Who used to post here all the time suddenly stopped and at the same time earlybird started with the same propaganda. Do you sense there might be a connection?

          • EarlyBird

            Roger, have you ever witnessed a genuine debate, or slight disagreement on this site, where the one even a bit to the "left" is not denounced as a "troll" or Marxist, Islamist, anti-Semite, America hater? Orthodoxy is enforced fiercly on this site, as it is in most authoritarian groups.

            This place is North Korea for right wingers. Ain't no "conservatives" here.

            This is not where "serious minds" come to challenge themselves or learn other positions. It's just where weak, frightened reactionaries come to hear others reinforce their own bigotries and fears.

            This is the dying end of a once great conservative movement, which is being reborn. Your weird little cult is getting smaller and smaller, however shriller. Your jokes, Neo-John Birchers.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Yes, but not with you involved in them. None excusing stupid policies that always fail. None that followed the MSNBC talking points, or quoting NY Times articles or experts.

            And NK is for NKeans, but that doesn't give them the right to declare war on us, say they are going to destroy our cities then roll out missiles that possibly could do that and get ignored.

            This is the beginning of the movement, because the country is failing under the ideas you seem to back.

          • Mary Sue

            I always think for myself. You on the other hand, obviously are so brainwashed by leftist clap trap that you were TAUGHT is "thinking for yourself" (but actually ISN'T), clearly do not.

            I'm not sure what will come of this current crisis, but if Obama is any indication, it'll not be good news for the west OR freedom. It could be that NK is moving to take over S. Korea. Which still isn't good, and we still should NOT let them do, even if China does have NK'sback. But EVEN IF Jong-Un is just doing a little saber rattling, USA and the world should STILL not let him get away with it. It's like dealing with teenagers. You give them an inch, they walk all over you.

          • EarlyBird

            "I'm not sure what will come of this current crisis, but if Obama is any indication, it'll not be good news for the west OR freedom."

            That's where you're being ridiculous, Mary Sue. Obama and the US and SK military have the very same options available, for better and for worse, in a scary scenario with NK as any other president would have at this moment. God forbid if NK does really attack us, because any way you slice it, we're looking at a very bloody war for everyone involved, including our troops on the peninsula.

            You're already pre-emptively blaming Obama – yes your president whether you like it or not – for a failure that hasn't occured. Because that is the state of hysterical right wing partisanship which is hurting America today.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Obama has failed every time he is involved in foreign policy.
            libya comes to mind. Al Qaida is the only winner there. Ask our ambassador..
            oh, he was murdered and we still haven't found out why Obama wouldn't let the navy seals help their own as they tried to defend themselves for hours and hours…

          • EarlyBird

            When you drive an Abrams tank and the "bully" drives a rusted out '72 Toyota Corrolla, you can afford to just ignore him.

            I don't believe you or the rest of the hysterical ninnies are half as worried about NK as you let on.

          • Drakken

            A nork with a couple nukes is something you can't just ignore.

          • EarlyBird

            Point accepted, marine. But let's not get stupid.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You already have.

          • Mary Sue

            A nuke is hardly a rusted out Toyota.

      • Mr Smith

        Even if we give him nothing we have to pay him some attention as in watch the birdie. Playing Watch the birdie from someone, who bluffs 95% of the time is dangerous. We have to watch him but we might not pay attention to other areas of concern.

        Slight of hand works in international relations as well.

        So we are losing something every day.

        • EarlyBird

          Smith,

          You and others write as if the US isn't doing anything about the threats from NK. This wretched propaganda site writes as if Obama has surrendered the Sixth Fleet to Kim Jong Un.

          We are watching him as closely as we possibly can. We are on the highest alert possible. We in essence have guns drawn, waiting for his next move. We have done about everything but shoot first.

          Is that what we should be doing? If not, what? What, specifically, should we so far have done which we have not done?

          We know he's going to fire a missile, and it is expected to land in the Western Pacific somewhere. Now what?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            What's wrong. You've been shown to be wrong time after time and you still pretend to have any credibility?

            We know they're nuts and if we don't mentally ill folks at home to have weapons… than his having more dangerous weapons is even worse.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Fat Boy of NK is adam lanza with nukes.

            BTW where is the UN on fhe fat boys tantrum?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Partying in NY like there may not be a tomorrow.

    • trickyblain

      Ever see "The Mouse That Roared"?

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        I own a DVD of it, and the mouse on the moon.

        And I doubt their dictator has read that play book. If he had, he's be leveraging their technology to feed their starving people.

      • Rifleman

        Lol, yep, Peter Sellers and Jean Seberg. Nobody would consider that idea with the soviets. Looking around at Japan and Germany when I was a kid in the 70s and early '80s, I used to think we can't be too bad, if that's the result of losing a war to us. I've always been a little worried Mexico would do that, but their pride probably wouldn't let them.

        I've been watching mostly old movies lately, even old silent movies. WTCG 17 in Atlanta used to be almost all old B&W movies in the 70s (with Don Kirsner's Rock Concert and James Brown Future Shock late night). It's interesting the little things you see in the background.

        Now you've done it Tricky, I've been running around the shop saying stuff like, "Do you have a remmm?" We've got one guy here so young, he'd never even heard of the original SNL, Animal House, Caddyshack, or Monty Python, much less Peter Sellers.

  • Asher

    Little Kim can't wait to prove is he worse than Iran…threaten, bully, and destroy yourself. Some dictators will eventually fall hard!

  • tagalog

    I think Kim Jung Un is intent on going to war. I bet he'll invade South Korea and the U.S. won't do anything but whine, even when North Korean troops kill Americans.

    • EarlyBird

      No, Tagalog, you believe no such thing.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Or he does mean it, Obama has a way of blaming us and apologizing.

      • tagalog

        What do I believe?

        • EarlyBird

          You're smarter than the nonsense you posted.

          I think you honestly believe that NK will fire a missile, it will either land harmlessly in the Pacific or be shot down by the US missile frigates, and the crisis will be over, without American loss of life, honor or security, and that you will quietly admit that Obama handled this about as well as any president possibly could.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And if it succeeds then they have tested technology that they will see no reason not to use.

          • Loyal Achates

            No reason? You don't think the NK leadership cares about losing their lives and position?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            They eat grass and tree bark. They have nothing to lose, and why do you think the leader is sane enough to consider the fact he might lose?

          • EarlyBird

            How do you possible get to sleep at night, with such a paranoid world view. We are always a hair's breadth away from nuclear annihilation unless we strike first. What a sick, stupid, bizarre mo fo you are.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I believe in a strong defense.

            How do you sleep hoping to be so weak and defenseless?

          • EarlyBird

            No, you believe that if someone so much as looks at you wrong you need to call in an airstrike on him to show "strength." That's just dumb, and not the action a genuinely strong country needs to take all the time.

            That's how countries ultimately become weak. Read some history, and I don't mean just chain-watching "The Color of War" on the Military Channel, okay? Learn how great countries become has-beens, and how it relates to your calls for war on NK right now (or whatever the hell you've been rambling on about).

            And shave that ridiculous moustache. Listen, not a lot of guys can carry one off. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You don't know what I believe, so don 't even try defining me on your terms.

            It doesn't work and your'e wrong.

          • Choi

            Now for our TROLL's latest demonstrated Alinsky tactic :
            Telling another poster they "don't" believe WHAT THEY BELIEVE.

          • EarlyBird

            Stop shaving your pubic hair. You're a "man."

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Stop being such a troll, you're not a man.

          • EarlyBird

            "And if it succeeds then they have tested technology that they will see no reason not to use."

            Dummy, short of literally destroying their missile on the ground, they are going to test that technology whether or not we want them to.

            Unless, of course, you're saying we need a pre-emptive strike. By the way in these paranoid schizophrenic hallucinations of yours we never hear exactly what should be done, just generalized whining about "appeasement." Do tell.

            Oh, and we'll have a chance to test our missile intercept technology in a real world situation too, which would certainly demonstrate something about US security.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Dummy, and each time it goes unchallenged then they have less reason to avoid going that little bit further at each step.

          • EarlyBird

            Describe how we should "challenge" them. It's one thing to criticize from the cheap seats. Once you really start talking about what you would "do" specifically, you got to think past the current 10 seconds.

            Give it a try.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It would be a real shame of the missiles blew up at the launch pad.

            Perhaps if one of our stealth fighters dropped a 5 lb chunk of metal on the launch pad the night before….. there must be dozens of ways.

          • EarlyBird

            Roger, if we knock out their launch pads, or better yet, wipe out their entire command and control operation, with said stealth air strike, I'd be right alongside you high fiving. Sounds a bit far fetched, but who knows?

            I don't think it is imprudent or weak not to rush into some kind of operation at this time.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            If we do that, China will jump into the fray.

            You always are able to find a way that sounds reasonable to do the most stupid things.

          • EarlyBird

            You're just arguing for the sake of arguing, Roger. I agree with you that we should knock out NK's missile on the lauch pad, then say that I'm dumb for agreeing with you.

            Okay….

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I didn't suggest doing it in a way that would drag the Chinese into it.

            You want us to lose don't you?

          • tagalog

            I believe North Korea will fire a missile all right. So you've got that right.

          • EarlyBird

            We all do, Tag.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You just want them to succeed, we don't.

          • EarlyBird

            Well, if it means hitting your trailer park, yeah, I guess I do want them to succeed.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            See, and I value our citizens, even the ones in trailer parks.

            Fly over country understands what stupid really is, you would not fit in.

    • trickyblain

      I'd give you 500:1 on that bet.

      • tagalog

        I shouldn't have said "bet." I wouldn't bet on that possibility. Lots of things could happen. But going to war is one of the big likelihoods. Because between our President and Kim Jung Un, it's very hard to tell which one is the bigger fool and more likely to make the fatal blunder.

    • gee59

      If he is stupid enough to attempt an invasion of the ROK we won't have to contend with them ever again. The ROK military is far more powerful than anything the North has.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    If the Un leader sends his troops south they will probably surrender immediately and ask for
    food and also provide the South Koreans with cheap labor. Un leader gets rid of mouths he can
    not feed and South Korea has less to worry about. Obama calls Un leader and congradulates
    him on his totalitarian stupidity…….another day on Planet Bizarro ends joyously……..William

    • Penny Haulman

      Plate Bazarro? Funny man. 'Buckaroo Bonzai'? Yes?

      • WilliamJamesWard

        "Nothing is ever what it seems but everything is exactly what it is."…………William

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        No. Try Google.

  • BLJ

    Screw this pint size pinhead. He is all bluster and is banking on the wussy we have in the WH to help him get his way.

    The world would be a better place if these two were out of power.

  • Softly Bob

    I think that it was very prophetic of you Americans to foresee the future and name both World War war two Atom bombs after the current leader of NORK and his late father!

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      LOL!

      Softly Bob AKBAR!

  • Loyal Achates

    What nonsense. NK doesn't have the physical means to invade the Marshall Islands, much less overpower the literally 1 million soldiers (SK and US) posted along the DMZ. Anyone who claims NK is going to go to war is an idiot.

    • EarlyBird

      Loyal, you know this insane asylum by now, inhabited by the most nationalistic, ignorant, reactionary, war-mongering, paranoid screw ups in the United States.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Yes, you post here quite regularly.

        • EarlyBird

          Just to mess with idiots like you. I actually feel bad about it some times though, sort of like I'm jabbing a stick through a cage at circus freaks.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You only mess with yourself.

            Self respect is something you won't understand. But we have it.

        • Alinsky Hero USA

          Why do you have over 110,000 comments and have never once mentioned a girlfriend Roger? Yet you post pictures of your nieces?

          Are you gay? Are you a virgin? Are you only here to stalk men online?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Poor little muslim troll, don't forget that you're a stalker advocating muslim style violence.

            7 hours ago @ Big Government – Occupy-Linked Hacker G… · 0 replies · 0 points
            Not chop, chop, just one single blade coming down fast.

            Your head will still be alive while it is in the basket, but you could never really be anymore brain dead than you are now..

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            You only come here to talk to men. Never once mention a girlfriend. We know EVERYTHING else about your sad life play piano badly for the Salvation Army. None of the women there like you. You play like crap, worse than you write novels.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Poor little alinsky, haven' thad a chance to chop any heads of lately? Is that why you're so cranky?

            And if you followed my comment stream you'd know i Had a lengthy debate with Shiela on another site.

            Poor little marxist troll of muslim loyalties.
            1 day ago @ Big Government – Occupy-Linked Hacker G… · 17 replies · -6 points
            The revolution has begun and your kind will be finding their heads in baskets soon. I hope you still have that smile on your face when that time comes.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            What that have to do with you being a virgin?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            News flash for stalker boy, this isn't a dating site. If you want to talk sex go to one that is for that. Not here.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Why are you making homo advances on me for exposing you as a virgin?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why do you hope everything I saw is a homosexual advance?I'm not interested and sick twisted freaks that want to chop heads off deserve to be locked up, if only to protect society.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I exposed you as a virgin, so why see that as homosexual?

            Are you a virgin because you are homosexual?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You only expose yourself as a sexually deviant stalker type.
            One that I don't discuss personal information with.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Your excuse doesn't hold up because you share personal information with everyone on ID, you even post your nieces of the internet….YET YOU HAVE NEVER MENTIONED A GIRLFRIEND TO ANYBODY…..ANYBODY….ANYBODY!!!!

            There is no logical excuse for that except that you DON'T have a girlfriend.

            Anyone like you, that argues like a 10 year old with OCD, and gets kicked off 912Commique site, and stalks men online 17 hours a day, and plays the piano for the Salvation Army……………………………..IS A VIRGIN.

            Must be!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why would I share anything for the person who says this?

            20 minutes ago @ http://912wolverines.com/ – growl · 3 replies · 0 points
            Having your head in a basket would make everyone here pleased.

            And we would keep your head in the basket until your girlfriend came to get you.

            It would dry up and be food for insects. The first time your head was ever used for something useful.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Everybody didn't say that. Only me.

            so why haven't you EVER EVER EVER mentioned a girlfriend to ANYBODY ANYBODY ANYBODY for the YEARS YEARS YEARS before I even saw you on ID….

            yet you talk about all other aspects of your personal life, and post pictures of your nieces??????

            There is only ONE explaination…YOU DON'T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND!!!!

            You virgin POS!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why would I share anything for the person who says this?

            20 minutes ago @ http://912wolverines.com/ – growl · 3 replies · 0 points
            Having your head in a basket would make everyone here pleased.

            And we would keep your head in the basket until your girlfriend came to get you.

            It would dry up and be food for insects. The first time your head was ever used for something useful.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why would I share anything for the person who says this?

            20 minutes ago @ http://912wolverines.com/ – growl · 3 replies · 0 points
            Having your head in a basket would make everyone here pleased.

            And we would keep your head in the basket until your girlfriend came to get you.

            It would dry up and be food for insects. The first time your head was ever used for something useful.

      • Pontotoc Bill

        EarlyBird, do you even have a grasp on reality? Your screed indicates that you do not.

        Try getting a real education before you embarass yourself yet again.

        • EarlyBird

          Cuz if we don't strike North Korea RIGHT NOW, they will NUKE Colorado! Anything less is appeasement!

          It's a Pearl Harbor, '39 Germany and 9/11 rolled into one! What are we doing not shooting at them yet?! The sky is falling!

          AAAAAAAArrrghghhh!

          • Pontotoc Bill

            Never said any such thing, bub.

            However, you fail to consider that NK leadership is just out of touch with reality. If you have listened to lies all your life, you believe the lies. Seems like old times, EarlyBird. You have been listening to the lies for far too long.

            As for me advocating war, you are absolutely stupid. I am retired from the US military and want no part of war, period. That said, I do believe there are things worth defending and that war is sometimes thrust upon you by others. This is what NK is attempting to do.

            Try again, but reallly, you need a better education for the one you have recieved is not cutting it.

          • EarlyBird

            Bill, I served four years proudly in the US Air Force, and am still a registered Republican despite how I may sound.

            That said, I'm tired of the idiocy on this page suggesting that in essence Obama has already failed some how regarding NK because – what – he hasn't launched a pre-emptive strike? Because his generals have suggested that to go forward with our previously planned missile test could scare Jong Un into doing something stupid?

            Yes. We agree. Should NK thrust war upon us, we need to finish it quickly and brutally. Let's try to avoid that scenario, and call peace a "win."

          • gee59

            You're still a moron

          • Lan Astaslem

            ditto! g59

          • EarlyBird

            Your mother is a moron.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Now that really explains why you're right and we're all wrong.

            Thanks for laying out a logical argument. As a 'veteran and conservative and life long republican (snort, snort) we know how we can expect that from you.

          • Mary Sue

            Oh, so you're a RINO. Like Bloomberg.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I was thinking Hanoi Jane, but she never lied and pretended to be Republican….

          • EarlyBird

            "Oh, so you're a RINO. Like Bloomberg."

            I've noticed that the definition of "conservative" has become so warped, and the definition of Republican so narrow, that only right wing radicals are considered "real" conservatives on this site.

            Mary Sue, you are where lefists of the late '70s were, as LBJ's Great Society was breathing its last gasps. You are part of an impotent, ridiculous, radical fringe group of "purists," the rump end of a once-great conservative movement.

            The GOP lost 2012 because of irresponsible people like you and Roger.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            I've noticed that the definition of lame is so warped, so 'early bird' that only those who are struggling not to laugh at you can bother responding.

          • Pontotoc Bill

            Not a first strike, but President Obama has failed.

            He has failed diplomatically by showing the US as a paper tiger. He has failed economically by damaging the US economy. He has failed morally by having no set beliefs that he will defend.

          • EarlyBird

            Hah!

            Well, Bill. You're in good company on this site.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            His support of the arab spring crippled obamas credibility.
            It didn't work out, unless you're a militant islamic.

      • Drakken

        The only people who are reactionary, ignorant, peace at any price and anti American are you and that other moron unloyal idiot. Hey thanks for playing the lets roll over and beg for peace game, hint, it never works out for folks like you.

        • EarlyBird

          Oh that's right, because we don't currently have peace with NK. We're being shot at while I write. If we are not constantly fighting a war some place, we're inviting predation by our enemies.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            We currently have a south korea enjoying peace. They can go to bed at nights with a full stomach and wash with heated water in the morning before going to a job of their choice.

            The North? Not so much.

          • EarlyBird

            Yeah, I know all about the sacrifice the US made for South Korea's sake. I explained to you my family's relationship with that war.

            But ironically, it is probably our very presence still in SK which has kept NK and SK from unifying by now, as I've explained in other posts.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You are such a bald faed liar do you really think anyone here takes anything you sat at face value?

            And our presence has kept them from unifying, on the north's terms.

          • WilliamJamesWard

            The North can not unify with anything, it can only expand it's misery and
            pain, it must be treated like cancer…….it still exists as there may be some
            vestige or semblance of humankind no one is willing to wipe out, I think it
            will eventually slide into the bowels of Hell in a very very hot moment.
            William

          • EarlyBird

            Liar! How so, Rog?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You may be against our holding territory and call every defensive move 'conquest' but they have no problem with aggressive attacks and behavior. Ask the families of the dead sailors from the unprovoked torpedo attack on the SK frigate a couple of years ago.

          • patriothere

            The cold war is over. We're not a backward country like North Korea.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            As long as there are communists there is a cold war.

            Well, until they destroy all patriots in the US.

          • patriothere

            There is no cold war. You are as backwards as the north koreans.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Of course there is, otherwise NK wouldn't be rattling their rusty and starving sabers.

          • patriothere

            The cold war is over. You're one ass backwards hillbilly.

      • Mary Sue

        it doesn't matter what North Korea has when FREAKING CHINA has their back!

        • EarlyBird

          So what's your complaint, moron?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            So what with your attitude, moron?

          • EarlyBird

            I just don't like intellectually lazy people criticizing their own president out of mindless partisanship, which is what all this foolishness is all about. It reminds me of BS hurled at W Bush for "allowing" 9/11 to happen.

            If Romney was in Washington right now, he'd be doing virtually nothing different from Obama, because the physical realities and calculus about what "to do" about the latest tantrum from Pyongyang would remain the same.

            The left would call anything Romney did "war mongering," just like the right today is calling anything Obama is doing "appeasement."

            It's just stupid, tiresome and bad for the country.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And I just don't like intellectually lazy people defending this failure of an administration.
            The only way you can say he's been successful is that he wanted the labor force to shrink, the credit rating taken down, our forces weakened and unemployment to rise.

            It's just stupid the tiresome lame liberal propaganda you keep repeating.

          • EarlyBird

            Nice change of topic. We're discussing NK here, Roger.

            Now I will ask again: What, specifically, physically, should the US be doing regarding NK which we have not done? How has Obama been a "failure" in the past week or so that this crisis has been going on? What, if you were president, would you DO differently?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            You deserved to be mocked, so I obliged.
            And we give you answers only to see you ignore them.

            You don't deserve another round of answers. You don't deserve much at all actually, trolling removed all credibility or claims at reasonableness.

            You really do remind me of this guy… http://intensedebate.com/people/schlomotion

          • WilliamJamesWard

            If you still have that Mustang have you been running a hose inside with the
            windows up, leave it to me in your will, soon…………………….William

          • Mary Sue

            Romney wouldn't have done the "apology tour"
            Romney wouldn't have said that America needs to be taken down a notch, or words to that effect.
            Romney wouldn't do any of the stupid crap that Obama has done leading up to this moment.

          • Mary Sue

            you're all "NK can't do s***, it has nothing" and clearly ignoring the fact that China is going to use it as a proxy.

          • EarlyBird

            So now we have to worry about China nuking us! Leave it to Mary Sue to become even more frightened. Duuuuh.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            We have always needed to worry about China.
            She mentioned the word proxy, you do read comments before responding, don't you?

          • patriothere

            You're no different than the North koreans. 50 years in the past.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And from a paid hack troll that doesn't carry much weight.

            6 minutes ago @ Breitbart.com – Protests to greet Ahma… · 1 reply · 0 points
            I'm like jesus, I'm gonna chase you money changers out of the temple and out of town and of course out of this forum. Me and ohsoquiet and a few other REAL AMERICANS who are being PAID to be here like you Israeli PR men. I'm here to chase you filth out.

          • onepornqueen

            Or regressives.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          China should feed and fuel north korea.

          It's their rude little boy.
          .

      • Choi

        YOU STUPID BSTRD
        We do not care WHAT NAMES YOU CALL US.
        What you HATE is that we're in the REAL WORLD instead of YOUR "FANTASYLAND",and YOU CAN'T TAKE IT!

        • EarlyBird

          I would die for America. Why any American should die for NK is for you to explain.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why we should have to die is something you need to explain.
            I remember trolls pretending to be loyal americans saying we would have horrible body bags coming back from Iraq, but as long as we fought smart and to win, it didn't happen the way it was said it was going to.

            When fools like you get into the way and people forget to kill every single enemy then things got ugly. It's called war. It sucks, but NK has declared war on us.

          • Mary Sue

            You forget the immortal words of Gen. Patton.

            "Your job is NOT to die for your country. YOUR job is to make the other poor bast*ard die for HIS country."

            If NK has as little as you claim, what makes you think ANY Americans would lose their lives to NK?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            EarlyTurd,

            Go ahead. Make our day.

    • Mary Sue

      China however, DOES.

      And guess who China will back and actually use troops in support of?

      • trickyblain

        Maybe, maybe not. I'm inclined to think that China won't sacrifice her economic survival for the sake of Lil' Kim. It's not 1950.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          They are massing troops on the border.
          They have extra people they don't want, even after the forced one baby policies.

          • WilliamJamesWard

            I have read that they are past 400 million abortions in China and have more people
            than they can feed, they could loose millions of troops and be glad to be rid of them.
            William

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Isn't it sad? Life has no value in so many corners of the world.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Especially socialist and islamofascist.

          • patriothere

            All gods will of course.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Not allah, not if he demands suicide bombers.

          • patriothere

            Allah is arabic for god.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Too bad you guys have such a lousy fake god.

          • patriothere

            Too bad for you it's the same god.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Nope, the Almighty doesn't demand car bombs in market places.

          • patriothere

            He just demands the slaughter of children.

      • Loyal Achates

        Not the North Koreans, that's for sure.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          They will do as before and protect the buffer zone between themselves and our troops to the south.

          • EarlyBird

            "They will do as before and protect the buffer zone between themselves and our troops to the south."

            Roger, we actually finally agree on something. In fact, you have taken the words right out of my mouth. China keeps NK the way it is to provide that buffer zone between them and our US troops in SK. The key to NK is its master, China.

            Now, you may consider this "appeasement," but perhaps this is the biggest reason of many that we take the training wheels off of SK and bring our boys home, finally.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why, do you want SK to be absorbed into that buffer zone?

          • EarlyBird

            I want that buffer zone to be eliminated. I want one country called Korea which is peaceful and free. Get it? I want to see a unification like we saw between E. Germany and W. Germany.

            China has the power to make that happen, but won't as long as we have those troops in the would-be unified Korea.

          • Choi

            And so the LEFTY finally puts his "goal" out there:
            The Communist DESTRUCTION of our FRIEND and ALLY, the REPUBLIC of KOREA.

          • EarlyBird

            You're insane. Get help.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            He's spot on. And you don't realize you need help.
            But you do.

          • WilliamJamesWard

            Leave me the car………………..William

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You'd have to fumigate the car for along time.

          • WilliamJamesWard

            Detroit was stronger than dementia when it was built, come
            to think of it, look at Detroit today, time and tide………William

          • Mary Sue

            The ONLY way that's going to happen is if there's a mass allied invasion and STOMPING ON of N. Korea.

            If NK has nothing (equivalent to 72 rusty toyotas) it should be a piece of cake, now, shouldn't it? And then why didn't we do that a long time ago?

  • Penny Haulman

    They are cannibals, for GODs sake. Nuclear countries tend to be

    • Loyal Achates

      Huh? Like the US, Israel and France? What exactly are you trying to say?

      • Mary Sue

        ….cannibals as in, they have to eat other people to survive because their government steals all their food to feed the military.

    • EarlyBird

      "They are cannibals, for GODs sake. Nuclear countries tend to be"

      What?!

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        Just think of the fun Iran will have, they won't have to just hang and stone rape victims and homosexuals.

        • WilliamJamesWard

          They are already cannibals of some sort, maybe, kind of……….possibly…………..William
          Hot sause please…………….Amaddinnerjacket!

  • phenry

    Since the president and his friends believe so strongly that no crisis is without opportunity to demonstrate the need for government assistance and protections, I would not be surprised if Obama has rehearsed the whole scenario with the North Korea leader. In this age of propaganda and deception, nothing surprises me as to what this anti-American government is capable of doing in the name of change and reform. Staging news and events has been effective in the past, so why shouldn't the Left stage events around the world?

  • john

    Kim Jung Un has a screw lose.

    • Softly Bob

      Surprising really, when he was raised by a perfectly sane and normal father and a loving down-to-Earth grandfather…
      Sarcasm intended

  • WilliamJamesWard

    The World may one day consist of two Nations, Iran and North Korea with one road between
    them, on that road just past the sign that says "Hell to the right or left" a lonely Mustang
    blowing smoke will tool along looking for a non existent rest stop and the feathered driver
    will wonder why while berating how Un-cool it is………………………William

  • Len_Powder

    "Dictators see any sign of backing down as more weakness to exploit."

    Something Obama does with Republicans all the time because he is a dictator wannabe.

  • delrainwater

    Democracy is facing some new prophetic demons

  • Cathy

    Considering the leader of North Korea has made his intentions clear … why have those missiles yet to be destroyed? Will a major American City have to become a crator and countless lives lost before this Administration will react?

    South Korea Bracing for North Korean Missile Test 'Anytime Soon'
    April 10, 2013

    The movement of Musudan-type missiles being prepared for a test-launch has been closely monitored by U.S. and South Korean surveillance. Two Musudans were spotted transporting to the eastern coast last week and disappeared from the radar for a while.

    They have now been spotted, fueled and ready to be launched in Wonsan, Gangwon Province, just above the North-South border on the east coast of North Korea.
    http://abcnews.go.com/International/south-korea-b

  • heartsick

    What a one-sided piece of warmongering rubbish. You don't mention a single piece of US provocation. You stack up US insults, arms, military record next to North Koreas and judge fairly who is looking for trouble in someone else's backyard, and starving US citizens to do it. You damn fools don't even see that this is good for no-one but Haliburton and GE. You have votes, you could stop this idiocy and take care of people at home and abroad instead of breeding fear and deprivation and anger and hate.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Why would I?

    With someone like you around it would be foolish.
    And it's also not the reason I come to comment, unlike you I come to discuss events, politics and values like liberty and freedom.

    • Alinsky Hero USA

      It is one of the reasons you comment , you have given all your other personal information on ID.

      You posted your nieces on the internet.

      You have no argument.

      You exposed virgin.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        You have no common sense or decency.
        You have no business asking for personal information.

        Go check your backers. It's not my head in there.

        1 day ago @ Big Government – Occupy-Linked Hacker G… · 17 replies · -6 points
        The revolution has begun and your kind will be finding their heads in baskets soon. I hope you still have that smile on your face when that time comes.

        • Alinsky Hero USA

          I'm NOT ASKING.

          Again you re-frame the argument.

          I am EXPOSING YOU. I am PROVING and showing to everyone that you don't have a girlfriend, and that you are a VIRGIN.

          It is the reason you spend 17 hours a day stalking men.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why is it you spend 24 hours a day stalking me, a man?

            And no, I don't think you're a virgin. I don't think virgins would be so creepy.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I'm not a virgin, and I have a girlfriend.

            Easy to say. Every conservative loves bragging about their wife or girlfriend on ID.

            But there is one stalker, named Roger, who NEVER even mentions a girlfriend.

            We all know why.

      • onepornqueen

        I know it's an hour long but you'll get over it: http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ohanian+econo

        LoserBama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnqto6sDtGI

        A shorter version of the first one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7KYn5xCyCI

        'Sorry you're stupid.

        • Alinsky Hero USA

          Kevin always feels sorry for Roger after I expose him as a virgin.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            All you expose is yourself as a sexually deviant stalker.

            And my head won't ever end up in your basket.
            7 hours ago @ Big Government – Occupy-Linked Hacker G… · 0 replies · 0 points
            Not chop, chop, just one single blade coming down fast.

            Your head will still be alive while it is in the basket, but you could never really be anymore brain dead than you are now..

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Only a virgin would say asking about a girlfriend makes you sexually deviant.

            Grow up. Find a girl, or a guy you like, and stop being a virgin.

          • onepornqueen

            I feel sorry for anyone who's harassed by a pervert as relentlessly as you harass Roger. Don't you have a girlfriend? No, I'm not talking about Manuela.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Do you honestly believe roger has a girlfriend?

            Say you honestly believe he has a girlfriend, and I will stop asking him.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Do you honestly think it's any of your business?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Yes.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Then you're mistaken, and thinking that way makes you a sexually deviant stalker.

            What wrong, why no more impersonation accounts on twitter? Do they realize you'e not me?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I'm not mistaken.

            And I haven't searched for any of your homo twitter accounts lately.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Poor little stalker troll.
            So many empty baskets…

            1 day ago @ Big Government – Occupy-Linked Hacker G… · 17 replies · -6 points
            The revolution has begun and your kind will be finding their heads in baskets soon. I hope you still have that smile on your face when that time comes.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            nice quote, but still says nothing about why you are a virgin.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            It still says nothing about why you pretend to think you should get personal information from me, or why I should provide it.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I don't ever expect you to admit you are a virgin, just exposing he fact that you are.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Dream on, it's still none of your concern any more than how my head would fit into your basket.

          • onepornqueen

            I don't think like a collectivist; whether or not he has a girlfriend is none of my business.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            That;s what I thought. thanks for not saying you think he has a girlfriend.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            And if you did know, you wouldn't care or ask out of some misplaced desire to pretend control

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Even Kevin won't say you have a girlfriend.

            HAHAHAHAHH!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Not to a troll that wants to put my head in a basket and have sex with my dead eyes.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Not to anybody. NO ONE will say you have a girlfriend.

            HAHAHHAHA!!!!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No one frankly cares, they don't have your deviant issues to deal with.

          • onepornqueen

            Can I take your not commenting on nor your attempt to refute the vids as an acceptance of the truth in them?

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Right now I'm more conserned about the conservative domestic terrorist in Boston.

            He is now trying to kill Obama.

            All you conservatives are un-American.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            No, you're not Not unless you're afraid you're going to be one of the suspects.

            Obama has proven to be ineffective at anything, his administration is clueless and he is the problem now.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Conservatives let 9/11 happen out of ignorance.

            Obama has made us safer, but there will always be conservative domestic terrorists doing harm because of hate speech like yours.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Obama has not made us safer. He has poisoned everything he touches, from providing al qaida a safe have and revenue to fund terror.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Wrong again. He has made us much safer, he even got that guy…what's his name? Oh yeah….Bin Laden.

            9/11 would have never happened if Al gore had won.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Like the Boston bombing? His administration is clueless and we suffer for it.

          • onepornqueen

            I missed that. "What's going on? Maybe we'll get lucky and Obama's chickens will come home to roost.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Read his comment again he is concerned about the domestic terrorist in Boston. We both know that it's not tea party, so why the concern? When you advocate for open rebellion and muslim terrorist style beheadings, you must know you're on someone's radar screens.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            I didn't say teabagger.

            Again, you re-frame the argument to fit your lies.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Once again you realize you cant defend yourself and go screaming around like a 2nd grade girl afraid of a bug on the playground.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            Just pointing out your lies, virgin.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            When that happens let me know. You're just a deviant stalker so far.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Then why is it having a basket full of heads from men, no mention of women always stir your imagination?

    • Alinsky Hero USA

      I want women domestic terrorist heads in baskets too.

      But I REALLY want virgin domestic terrorists spewing hate speech to have thier heads in baskets.

      You creepy virgin stalker, you even had 912Commuquie website warn you of stalking.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

        You are a sick twisted freakj. and what you want frankly doesn't concern me. Go back to another bag of cheetos.

        • Alinsky Hero USA

          But you asked me, virgin.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Poor little sick twisted sexually deviant stalker, you sound so 'tormented'.

            And you can do that all by yourself in an isolated basement waiting for another bag of cheetos.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

    Only wanting to know if I've had sexuact and with whom makes you sexually deviant and doing it for well over two years makes you a stalker.

    At least this time you aren't using my photo without my consent.

  • Alinsky Hero USA

    Your stalking of WeeTodd is the very reason I will never stop asking if you are a virgin. Not mentioning a girlfriend for three years makes you a virgin.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

      You are a sick sexually deviant stalker who has been at this a long time, you don't need any excuse. You just do what sexually deviant stalkers do.

      • Alinsky Hero USA

        So whenever somebody asks if someone else has a girlfriend or wife, that makes them deviant stalker?

        Only a virgin would think that, a virgin who has been exposed.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

          When you stalk them, photo shop pics of them with sex toys and find old photos on facebook to hide behind, comment on the people they're with, blame them for illness in the family, and talk about how you want to have their heads in a basket while they're still smiling, that would make you a sexually deviant stalker, yes.

          • Alinsky Hero USA

            What does any of that BS have to do with the fact that you are a virgin?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNn2YflwNs Roger

            Why does any of your BS indicate I'll discuss anything of a personal nature with you?