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		<title>By: muchiboy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[muchiboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps.How much public opinion influences the courts,legislation,etc.and vise versa,is  complex.How radicals  influence public opinion is another layer added to the complexity
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps.How much public opinion influences the courts,legislation,etc.and vise versa,is  complex.How radicals  influence public opinion is another layer added to the complexity<br />
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 00:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;America,to the point of being &quot;radicalized&quot;,for lack of a better term.Really,a life time ago.Another time and place,one that America had to pass through,hopefully,for the better.&quot;



Martin Luther King and many other proved that there is no justification for radicalism in the USA. Peaceful movements work when you articulate your case to the public and in some cases you use the courts. The courts are imperfect, but there is no radical movement that can improve the leverage anyone with a legitimate movement has with our lawful methods of change advocacy. 


I&#039;m afraid that not enough people would agree with me on that. Which is a terrible shame because those people are fighting battles with no winners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;America,to the point of being &#8220;radicalized&#8221;,for lack of a better term.Really,a life time ago.Another time and place,one that America had to pass through,hopefully,for the better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Martin Luther King and many other proved that there is no justification for radicalism in the USA. Peaceful movements work when you articulate your case to the public and in some cases you use the courts. The courts are imperfect, but there is no radical movement that can improve the leverage anyone with a legitimate movement has with our lawful methods of change advocacy. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid that not enough people would agree with me on that. Which is a terrible shame because those people are fighting battles with no winners.</p>
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		<title>By: muchiboy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[muchiboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 13:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hardly ever agree with anyone on this form,but I think I&#039;ll make an exception now.However,I have to say,I am Canadian,but was influenced by these events in America,to the point of being &quot;radicalized,for lack of a better term.Really,a life time ago.Another time and place,one that America had to pass through,hopefully,for the better]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hardly ever agree with anyone on this form,but I think I&#8217;ll make an exception now.However,I have to say,I am Canadian,but was influenced by these events in America,to the point of being &#8220;radicalized,for lack of a better term.Really,a life time ago.Another time and place,one that America had to pass through,hopefully,for the better</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2013 05:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Still,it happens on both sides.Justice is blind but not deaf and dumb.&quot;



We&#039;re supposed to strive for &quot;equal under the law&quot; and process cases blind to distinctions that are not relevant under the law, like skin color.


I don&#039;t want to jump to conclusions about the case. But just as with Zimmerman (though I think we know more about his experience than we do about Angela Davis&#039;s), there is a difference between a guilty verdict and having total confidence in someone&#039;s innocence  She joined and participated in radical movements. She purchased the shotgun 2 days before it was used. As a member of a radical revolutionary movement, I can&#039;t see her suddenly taking up duck hunting 2 days before a premeditated slaughter / jailhouse break project. That&#039;s extremely implausible.


I don&#039;t have access to the evidence though so, that&#039;s just my comment for what it&#039;s worth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Still,it happens on both sides.Justice is blind but not deaf and dumb.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re supposed to strive for &#8220;equal under the law&#8221; and process cases blind to distinctions that are not relevant under the law, like skin color.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to jump to conclusions about the case. But just as with Zimmerman (though I think we know more about his experience than we do about Angela Davis&#8217;s), there is a difference between a guilty verdict and having total confidence in someone&#8217;s innocence  She joined and participated in radical movements. She purchased the shotgun 2 days before it was used. As a member of a radical revolutionary movement, I can&#8217;t see her suddenly taking up duck hunting 2 days before a premeditated slaughter / jailhouse break project. That&#8217;s extremely implausible.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have access to the evidence though so, that&#8217;s just my comment for what it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: muchiboy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[muchiboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks.I was unsure on this point.I did hear a recent interview with her discussing the murderous incident at the courthouse,her subsequent hiding and capture.She seemed to be saying the guns were taken without her consent and or knowledge.Found that hard to believe,but she was found not guilty by an all white jury.Sometimes you just have to put your hands up and accept the absurdity and insanity,of it all,or maybe just the unfairness or complexities of the justice system in a free society.Still,it happens on both sides.Justice is blind but not deaf and dumb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.I was unsure on this point.I did hear a recent interview with her discussing the murderous incident at the courthouse,her subsequent hiding and capture.She seemed to be saying the guns were taken without her consent and or knowledge.Found that hard to believe,but she was found not guilty by an all white jury.Sometimes you just have to put your hands up and accept the absurdity and insanity,of it all,or maybe just the unfairness or complexities of the justice system in a free society.Still,it happens on both sides.Justice is blind but not deaf and dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please don&#039;t make me cry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t make me cry.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=4BkRAAAAIBAJ&amp;sjid=NuEDAAAAIBAJ&amp;pg=6482%2C3554926



She bought 3 guns for the murder spree.]]></description>
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<p>She bought 3 guns for the murder spree.</p>
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		<title>By: bluffcreek1967</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 03:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great point!]]></description>
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		<title>By: graywoldja</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oooh. Sounds like prison isn&#039;t much fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh. Sounds like prison isn&#8217;t much fun.</p>
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		<title>By: garyfouse</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pelican Bay is the worst of the worst because it has the worst of the worst prisoners. Being a guard there is taking your life into your hands. They should be getting the sympathy not the scum they are guarding.


What an embarrassment to the UC system that this radical is teaching our kids (History of Consciousness-whatever that is.).


Gary Fouse
DEA-retired
Adj teacher 
UC Irvine ext (and embarrassed)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelican Bay is the worst of the worst because it has the worst of the worst prisoners. Being a guard there is taking your life into your hands. They should be getting the sympathy not the scum they are guarding.</p>
<p>What an embarrassment to the UC system that this radical is teaching our kids (History of Consciousness-whatever that is.).</p>
<p>Gary Fouse<br />
DEA-retired<br />
Adj teacher<br />
UC Irvine ext (and embarrassed)</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Sponte</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sue Sponte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2013 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;&#039; . . .Pelican Bay inmates have televisions, with 23 channels, including the 
four broadcast networks, PBS, BET and ESPN, plus educational and 
self-help channels and Bible channels in English and Spanish. . .&#039;”  

I don&#039;t think so at all.  The TV is in mounted on wall in a day room they have limited access to, maybe for an hour ot two a day, or maybe can see from their cells depending on its location.  MSNBC&#039;s &quot;Extended Stay&quot; series about prison life gives a more realistic and less misleading view of all this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8216; . . .Pelican Bay inmates have televisions, with 23 channels, including the<br />
four broadcast networks, PBS, BET and ESPN, plus educational and<br />
self-help channels and Bible channels in English and Spanish. . .&#8217;”  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so at all.  The TV is in mounted on wall in a day room they have limited access to, maybe for an hour ot two a day, or maybe can see from their cells depending on its location.  MSNBC&#8217;s &#8220;Extended Stay&#8221; series about prison life gives a more realistic and less misleading view of all this.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaeleus Canis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gaeleus Canis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Aug 2013 06:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love you Carl,  but how many people can hear you? .. I am so mad at most the people that need to hear what you and I both know.

If this needs to happen in a courtroom, what I want to know is how does Beard live with so much blood on his hands after it&#039;s too late? 
Will he get to keep his career after condemning those men to death by lack of humanity and a need to be right in spite?
 if all this criminal shotcalling activity they have said is currently happening in the SHU, they have admitted that SHU does not work for what it was intended.. or more like how they misuse it and the control they are supposed to be getting by it... utter failure. Time to give up the broken things for something akin to purposefulness and hauminatarianism]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love you Carl,  but how many people can hear you? .. I am so mad at most the people that need to hear what you and I both know.</p>
<p>If this needs to happen in a courtroom, what I want to know is how does Beard live with so much blood on his hands after it&#8217;s too late?<br />
Will he get to keep his career after condemning those men to death by lack of humanity and a need to be right in spite?<br />
 if all this criminal shotcalling activity they have said is currently happening in the SHU, they have admitted that SHU does not work for what it was intended.. or more like how they misuse it and the control they are supposed to be getting by it&#8230; utter failure. Time to give up the broken things for something akin to purposefulness and hauminatarianism</p>
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		<title>By: nimbii</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nimbii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I may be wrong here but I seem to recall that in the late 60&#039;s that Anglea Davis was being considered for the Supreme Court!  
Did not realize Peter Coyote needed work in Hollywood and decided to help his image.  
Sarandon is just a piece of liberal work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be wrong here but I seem to recall that in the late 60&#8242;s that Anglea Davis was being considered for the Supreme Court!<br />
Did not realize Peter Coyote needed work in Hollywood and decided to help his image.<br />
Sarandon is just a piece of liberal work.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Shugart</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Shugart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only in Santa Cruz could you be a professor of &quot;the history of consciousness.&quot; Only in Santa Cruz could you turn the ordinary mental state of being awake into an academic pursuit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only in Santa Cruz could you be a professor of &#8220;the history of consciousness.&#8221; Only in Santa Cruz could you turn the ordinary mental state of being awake into an academic pursuit.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesJ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JamesJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, they&#039;re rats!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they&#8217;re rats!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Toersbijns</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Toersbijns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I offered to help with this matter as I am familiar with the concept and the steps it takes to reform the SHU conditions. The CDCR has no leverage in this matter. It is losing control via  public opinion and pressure. This matter will be resolved inside the courtrooms unless the CDCR takes a proactive approach and takes control of the mediation process and begins real change not the bogus change of last year. The CDCR is losing their grip on their punishment approach in  the SHU.. The fear of retaliation and other punishment for participating is diminishing and soon the whole issue will be out of control. Resolve now is the key to this matter; prolonging it will cause more damage to the already corrupt prison management system and federal oversight and control is imminent...... again]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I offered to help with this matter as I am familiar with the concept and the steps it takes to reform the SHU conditions. The CDCR has no leverage in this matter. It is losing control via  public opinion and pressure. This matter will be resolved inside the courtrooms unless the CDCR takes a proactive approach and takes control of the mediation process and begins real change not the bogus change of last year. The CDCR is losing their grip on their punishment approach in  the SHU.. The fear of retaliation and other punishment for participating is diminishing and soon the whole issue will be out of control. Resolve now is the key to this matter; prolonging it will cause more damage to the already corrupt prison management system and federal oversight and control is imminent&#8230;&#8230; again</p>
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		<title>By: Loupdegarre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loupdegarre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 12:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Angela was and is a disciple of Herbert Marcuse and the Frankfurt School.  If you want to read an expose of how the communist have become so ingrained in our society read &quot;School of Darknes&quot; by Bella Dodd.  It&#039;s available for free on line just Google it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela was and is a disciple of Herbert Marcuse and the Frankfurt School.  If you want to read an expose of how the communist have become so ingrained in our society read &#8220;School of Darknes&#8221; by Bella Dodd.  It&#8217;s available for free on line just Google it.</p>
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		<title>By: muchiboy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[muchiboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; Davis brought the “arsenal of weapons” to spring Jackson.&quot;


Brought and/or bought? The distinction is important.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Davis brought the “arsenal of weapons” to spring Jackson.&#8221;</p>
<p>Brought and/or bought? The distinction is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Well Done</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Well Done]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 08:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Odd, that the hard left are so in favor of very strict gun control, yet they don&#039;t mind if a gun they own blows someone&#039;s head off.  More to the point, the system doesn&#039;t mind.  Think a &quot;right wing militia&quot;(TM) type person would have been let off like this bee itch was?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd, that the hard left are so in favor of very strict gun control, yet they don&#8217;t mind if a gun they own blows someone&#8217;s head off.  More to the point, the system doesn&#8217;t mind.  Think a &#8220;right wing militia&#8221;(TM) type person would have been let off like this bee itch was?</p>
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		<title>By: joshuasweet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joshuasweet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2013 07:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;a leader of the Communist Party USA&quot; Gee I wonder what her agenda will be? will it be the same as Obama&#039;s?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a leader of the Communist Party USA&#8221; Gee I wonder what her agenda will be? will it be the same as Obama&#8217;s?</p>
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