<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Is God Against Drones?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=is-god-against-drones</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2014 05:53:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
		<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
		<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	
	<item>
		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4325266</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 19:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4325266</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[yeah, Robert George and First Things are part of the &quot;religious left&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/06/18/catholics-should-criticize-indiscriminate-drone-use/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/20...&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, Robert George and First Things are part of the &quot;religious left&quot; <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/06/18/catholics-should-criticize-indiscriminate-drone-use/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/20" rel="nofollow">http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/20</a>&#8230; </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nemo_from_Erhwon</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4320985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nemo_from_Erhwon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4320985</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I have a hard time understanding how drones come into this discussion.  A policy of who to attack and why can be debated, and strong moral positions taken -- but why does it matter which tool is used?

I become convinced that this is the international corollary to the discussions of &quot;assault weapons&quot; in domestic politics:  that is, using a scary term to make a weak argument seem stronger.  But if I am in error, if there really is some significant moral difference to striking a target with a drone, or with a missile fired from a ship or plane, I&#039;d be interested to see it explained.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a hard time understanding how drones come into this discussion.  A policy of who to attack and why can be debated, and strong moral positions taken &#8212; but why does it matter which tool is used?</p>
<p>I become convinced that this is the international corollary to the discussions of &#8220;assault weapons&#8221; in domestic politics:  that is, using a scary term to make a weak argument seem stronger.  But if I am in error, if there really is some significant moral difference to striking a target with a drone, or with a missile fired from a ship or plane, I&#8217;d be interested to see it explained.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4318088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4318088</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Again, you use this as a blank check for the US military and ignore all unintended consequences.&quot; 
 
Only in your mind. 
 
&quot;Even though, our intervention has done huge damage to the Christian church in Iraq as our newly appointed regime is much less secular and much less tolerant of people who occupy their country and claim to be Christians.&quot; 
 
I&#039;m very critical of HOW we handled it, not that we did something. You do know there are often more than 2 discrete choices? 
 ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Again, you use this as a blank check for the US military and ignore all unintended consequences.&quot; </p>
<p>Only in your mind. </p>
<p>&quot;Even though, our intervention has done huge damage to the Christian church in Iraq as our newly appointed regime is much less secular and much less tolerant of people who occupy their country and claim to be Christians.&quot; </p>
<p>I&#039;m very critical of HOW we handled it, not that we did something. You do know there are often more than 2 discrete choices? </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4318081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4318081</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You support and make excuses for unconstitutional wars every day.&quot;  
  
You&#039;re going to have to quote me if you want to try that.  
 
&quot;You also are willing to spare no expense and are willing to break as many eggs as you need to make your omelet. &quot;  
  
Your powers of prophecy are failing. Are you sure you&#039;re a prophet?  
 
&quot;Since your idea of justice is so subjective, you should probably be donating your own money to bring it forth rather than voting to use mine.&quot;  
  
You don&#039;t really need me for this conversation. You&#039;ve got both sides of the narrative worked out to replace the words of anyone who disagrees with you. You&#039;re not a very good listener. Did anyone ever inform you of this? You probably didn&#039;t hear them. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;You support and make excuses for unconstitutional wars every day.&quot;  </p>
<p>You&#039;re going to have to quote me if you want to try that.  </p>
<p>&quot;You also are willing to spare no expense and are willing to break as many eggs as you need to make your omelet. &quot;  </p>
<p>Your powers of prophecy are failing. Are you sure you&#039;re a prophet?  </p>
<p>&quot;Since your idea of justice is so subjective, you should probably be donating your own money to bring it forth rather than voting to use mine.&quot;  </p>
<p>You don&#039;t really need me for this conversation. You&#039;ve got both sides of the narrative worked out to replace the words of anyone who disagrees with you. You&#039;re not a very good listener. Did anyone ever inform you of this? You probably didn&#039;t hear them. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4318069</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4318069</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Are they preventing 9/11 attacks every day? Every month? Every year? &quot; 
 
In theory, yes. Do I agree with how the operations are run, no. I&#039;m saying we need to be there. I don&#039;t agree on how the operations are executed. Staying home like a turtle is not the answer. 
 
&quot;We got Osama Bin Laden and a lot of others that weren&#039;t even involved, but go ahead and use that to continue signing a blank check for the NEXT 10 years to fight &quot;terror&quot; all over the world.&quot; 
 
You&#039;re ranting at me as if you know my views. 
 
 
&quot;In the mean time, you are more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a terrorist.&quot; 
 
That&#039;s not especially relevant. Lightning doesn&#039;t terrorize people in to accepting compromises with radical Islamic colonialists.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Are they preventing 9/11 attacks every day? Every month? Every year? &quot; </p>
<p>In theory, yes. Do I agree with how the operations are run, no. I&#039;m saying we need to be there. I don&#039;t agree on how the operations are executed. Staying home like a turtle is not the answer. </p>
<p>&quot;We got Osama Bin Laden and a lot of others that weren&#039;t even involved, but go ahead and use that to continue signing a blank check for the NEXT 10 years to fight &quot;terror&quot; all over the world.&quot; </p>
<p>You&#039;re ranting at me as if you know my views. </p>
<p>&quot;In the mean time, you are more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a terrorist.&quot; </p>
<p>That&#039;s not especially relevant. Lightning doesn&#039;t terrorize people in to accepting compromises with radical Islamic colonialists.  </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4318058</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4318058</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Pretend that you are just as objective when it comes to foreign policy and you read all these critical foreign policy articles.&quot; 
 
I&#039;m confused about the point you&#039;re trying to make. 
 
&quot;Fell free to list a couple criticisms&quot; 
 
Bush caved in to leftists and allowed the Middle Eastern wars to get out of control. He&#039;s also deceived by Saudi royals and their true agenda. He&#039;s a dupe of the &quot;Arab Spring.&quot; He&#039;s also gone so it&#039;s not as valuable to attack him when our sitting president is the most radical anti-American president in history by any measure. 
 
&quot;but your &quot;you don&#039;t know me&quot; defense is hollow.&quot; 
 
I wasn&#039;t talking about me, but now you are. I&#039;m simply pointing out that if you don&#039;t see something, that&#039;s not evidence that it doesn&#039;t exist. 
 
 ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Pretend that you are just as objective when it comes to foreign policy and you read all these critical foreign policy articles.&quot; </p>
<p>I&#039;m confused about the point you&#039;re trying to make. </p>
<p>&quot;Fell free to list a couple criticisms&quot; </p>
<p>Bush caved in to leftists and allowed the Middle Eastern wars to get out of control. He&#039;s also deceived by Saudi royals and their true agenda. He&#039;s a dupe of the &quot;Arab Spring.&quot; He&#039;s also gone so it&#039;s not as valuable to attack him when our sitting president is the most radical anti-American president in history by any measure. </p>
<p>&quot;but your &quot;you don&#039;t know me&quot; defense is hollow.&quot; </p>
<p>I wasn&#039;t talking about me, but now you are. I&#039;m simply pointing out that if you don&#039;t see something, that&#039;s not evidence that it doesn&#039;t exist. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rifleman</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4317863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rifleman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4317863</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[9/11 wasn&#039;t the first time AQ mass murdered Americans, and good luck getting a sane immigration policy, and there&#039;s no way the democrat party will allow our southern border to be secured. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9/11 wasn&#039;t the first time AQ mass murdered Americans, and good luck getting a sane immigration policy, and there&#039;s no way the democrat party will allow our southern border to be secured. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Paul Rothbard</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4315968</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Rothbard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4315968</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Christians are not obligated to get involved unless they can make specific arguments that for them to stand aside, they would be serving evil.&quot; 
 
Again, you use this as a blank check for the US military and ignore all unintended consequences.  Even though, our intervention has done huge damage to the Christian church in Iraq as our newly appointed regime is much less secular and much less tolerant of people who occupy their country and claim to be Christians. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Christians are not obligated to get involved unless they can make specific arguments that for them to stand aside, they would be serving evil.&quot; </p>
<p>Again, you use this as a blank check for the US military and ignore all unintended consequences.  Even though, our intervention has done huge damage to the Christian church in Iraq as our newly appointed regime is much less secular and much less tolerant of people who occupy their country and claim to be Christians. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Paul Rothbard</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4315932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Rothbard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4315932</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[You support and make excuses for unconstitutional wars every day. 
 
You also are willing to spare no expense and are willing to break as many eggs as you need to make your omelet.   
 
&quot;But letting militants kill many people in order to make sure no collateral innocents are killed does not serve justice either.&quot; 
 
Since your idea of justice is so subjective, you should probably be donating your own money to bring it forth rather than voting to use mine.  Go ahead make your extra checks payable to the US government and write &quot;good intentions for justice.&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You support and make excuses for unconstitutional wars every day. </p>
<p>You also are willing to spare no expense and are willing to break as many eggs as you need to make your omelet.   </p>
<p>&quot;But letting militants kill many people in order to make sure no collateral innocents are killed does not serve justice either.&quot; </p>
<p>Since your idea of justice is so subjective, you should probably be donating your own money to bring it forth rather than voting to use mine.  Go ahead make your extra checks payable to the US government and write &quot;good intentions for justice.&quot; </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Paul Rothbard</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4315912</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Rothbard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4315912</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Are they preventing 9/11 attacks every day?  Every month?  Every year? 
 
We got Osama Bin Laden and a lot of others that weren&#039;t even involved, but go ahead and use that to continue signing a blank check for the NEXT 10 years to fight &quot;terror&quot; all over the world. 
 
In the mean time, you are more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a terrorist. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they preventing 9/11 attacks every day?  Every month?  Every year? </p>
<p>We got Osama Bin Laden and a lot of others that weren&#039;t even involved, but go ahead and use that to continue signing a blank check for the NEXT 10 years to fight &quot;terror&quot; all over the world. </p>
<p>In the mean time, you are more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a terrorist. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Paul Rothbard</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4315890</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Rothbard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4315890</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Fine. Pretend that you are just as objective when it comes to foreign policy and you read all these critical foreign policy articles.  Fell free to list a couple criticisms, but your &quot;you don&#039;t know me&quot; defense is hollow. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine. Pretend that you are just as objective when it comes to foreign policy and you read all these critical foreign policy articles.  Fell free to list a couple criticisms, but your &quot;you don&#039;t know me&quot; defense is hollow. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4314599</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 03:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4314599</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot; The Bush/Cheney administration, whether through incompetence or malfeasance, was responsible for 9/11.&quot; 
 
Of course all of those radical changes from the sensible policies of Clinton. Not that Bush wasn&#039;t a Saudi Islamic dupe. But to criticize out of context is a bit silly. It&#039;s leftist ideology that leads to these problems. Every politician that accepts Saudi funding is a dupe or a traitor. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot; The Bush/Cheney administration, whether through incompetence or malfeasance, was responsible for 9/11.&quot; </p>
<p>Of course all of those radical changes from the sensible policies of Clinton. Not that Bush wasn&#039;t a Saudi Islamic dupe. But to criticize out of context is a bit silly. It&#039;s leftist ideology that leads to these problems. Every politician that accepts Saudi funding is a dupe or a traitor. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4314591</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 03:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4314591</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It is not the responsibility of the United States to police the world or to rein in renegade states. With a sane immigration policy, a moratorium on ALL immigration for at least 40 years, we would face no threats to the safety of the United States.&quot; 
 
You&#039;d have to implement a full quarantine, ans till patrol the oceans. Global trade would shrink to the point that we could not even afford to do that. So there is no real way to do what you&#039;d like. Nothing wrong with the theory itself other than that. 
 
But we could manage all of these risks a lot better than we do now, without any doubt at all. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;It is not the responsibility of the United States to police the world or to rein in renegade states. With a sane immigration policy, a moratorium on ALL immigration for at least 40 years, we would face no threats to the safety of the United States.&quot; </p>
<p>You&#039;d have to implement a full quarantine, ans till patrol the oceans. Global trade would shrink to the point that we could not even afford to do that. So there is no real way to do what you&#039;d like. Nothing wrong with the theory itself other than that. </p>
<p>But we could manage all of these risks a lot better than we do now, without any doubt at all. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4314583</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 03:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4314583</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;My problem with drones is how they&#039;re being used.&quot; 
 
OK. 
 
&quot; In a &quot;conventional war&quot;, any state with a halfway decent defense can shoot these things out of the sky no problem.&quot; 
 
Not if deployed correctly. They&#039;re designed as spy planes. 
 
 
&quot; So they&#039;re not being used to conduct war (conflict between states)&quot; 
 
That is debatable but let&#039;s say that your criticism is limited to conflict with non-state entities. 
 
 
&quot;they&#039;re being used to assassinate.&quot; 
 
Are you using that word in a pejorative sense? I don&#039;t know enough about 0&#039;Bama&#039;s uses to criticize him, but I don&#039;t trust his judgment in anyone I&#039;ve ever known about. My problem is with him, not with any specific technology, especially one as misunderstood as planes guided by pilots who are not onboard during the flights. You call them &quot;drones.&quot; Some times militants need to be killed and these planes are useful tools that if used judiciously are the best way to minimize collateral deaths. 
 
&quot;It&#039;s only a matter of time before they&#039;re used on us once the Government disarms us.&quot; 
 
That has nothing to do with drone criticism. The US military already controls sufficient weapons to annihilate its population. If you don&#039;t trust our military, that&#039;s another argument. 
 
&quot;Maybe not to bomb us (maybe), but to watch our movements and behavior.&quot; 
 
You do know about spy satellites in earth&#039;s orbit I assume. Those are far more effective for applications against static populations. 
 
&quot;It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if the middle east is just the &quot;sandbox&quot; to test their abilities.&quot; 
 
If there is a conspiracy, it&#039;s not systemic. There are legitimate reasons for deploying these machines as they are deployed, without commenting on specific mission decisions that I don&#039;t have information about. 
 
&quot;So while you may fear some Islamist hiding out in some worthless cave/desert, I&#039;m personally much more worried about the government taking away our liberty under the guise of &quot;safety&quot;.&quot; 
 
I&#039;m aware of both threats, I&#039;ll put it like that. 
 ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;My problem with drones is how they&#039;re being used.&quot; </p>
<p>OK. </p>
<p>&quot; In a &quot;conventional war&quot;, any state with a halfway decent defense can shoot these things out of the sky no problem.&quot; </p>
<p>Not if deployed correctly. They&#039;re designed as spy planes. </p>
<p>&quot; So they&#039;re not being used to conduct war (conflict between states)&quot; </p>
<p>That is debatable but let&#039;s say that your criticism is limited to conflict with non-state entities. </p>
<p>&quot;they&#039;re being used to assassinate.&quot; </p>
<p>Are you using that word in a pejorative sense? I don&#039;t know enough about 0&#039;Bama&#039;s uses to criticize him, but I don&#039;t trust his judgment in anyone I&#039;ve ever known about. My problem is with him, not with any specific technology, especially one as misunderstood as planes guided by pilots who are not onboard during the flights. You call them &quot;drones.&quot; Some times militants need to be killed and these planes are useful tools that if used judiciously are the best way to minimize collateral deaths. </p>
<p>&quot;It&#039;s only a matter of time before they&#039;re used on us once the Government disarms us.&quot; </p>
<p>That has nothing to do with drone criticism. The US military already controls sufficient weapons to annihilate its population. If you don&#039;t trust our military, that&#039;s another argument. </p>
<p>&quot;Maybe not to bomb us (maybe), but to watch our movements and behavior.&quot; </p>
<p>You do know about spy satellites in earth&#039;s orbit I assume. Those are far more effective for applications against static populations. </p>
<p>&quot;It wouldn&#039;t surprise me if the middle east is just the &quot;sandbox&quot; to test their abilities.&quot; </p>
<p>If there is a conspiracy, it&#039;s not systemic. There are legitimate reasons for deploying these machines as they are deployed, without commenting on specific mission decisions that I don&#039;t have information about. </p>
<p>&quot;So while you may fear some Islamist hiding out in some worthless cave/desert, I&#039;m personally much more worried about the government taking away our liberty under the guise of &quot;safety&quot;.&quot; </p>
<p>I&#039;m aware of both threats, I&#039;ll put it like that. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4314545</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 03:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4314545</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Or we could just stop letting them come to the United States.&quot; 
 
Yes, we could do that. 
 
&quot;That removes the threat to the United States entirely&quot; 
 
It reduces the threat but does NOT remove it entirely. 
 
&quot;They have no air forces or navies to cross the oceans. &quot; 
 
Oh you want sealed borders, quarantine the seas too. You&#039;re not at all delusional. 
 
 
&quot;9/11 happened because of our open borders.&quot; 
 
Some of the tactics exploited our ridiculously poor border control and visa policies. But that doesn&#039;t mean they could not succeed if we put all of our hopes on &quot;closed&quot; borders.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Or we could just stop letting them come to the United States.&quot; </p>
<p>Yes, we could do that. </p>
<p>&quot;That removes the threat to the United States entirely&quot; </p>
<p>It reduces the threat but does NOT remove it entirely. </p>
<p>&quot;They have no air forces or navies to cross the oceans. &quot; </p>
<p>Oh you want sealed borders, quarantine the seas too. You&#039;re not at all delusional. </p>
<p>&quot;9/11 happened because of our open borders.&quot; </p>
<p>Some of the tactics exploited our ridiculously poor border control and visa policies. But that doesn&#039;t mean they could not succeed if we put all of our hopes on &quot;closed&quot; borders.  </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4314532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 03:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4314532</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If a citizen cannot use armed drones, then the government has no power to use them either.&quot; 
 
Citizens can use them as directed according to the law. Citizens can not use them for personal reasons based on their personal intent. We use them collectively, not personally. We empower the government to use them according to our laws. 
 
 
&quot;We live in a nation of delegated powers.&quot; 
 
Which you seem to not fully understand. 
 
 
&quot;I guess now we live in a fascist tyranny.&quot; 
 
That&#039;s a separate discussion. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;If a citizen cannot use armed drones, then the government has no power to use them either.&quot; </p>
<p>Citizens can use them as directed according to the law. Citizens can not use them for personal reasons based on their personal intent. We use them collectively, not personally. We empower the government to use them according to our laws. </p>
<p>&quot;We live in a nation of delegated powers.&quot; </p>
<p>Which you seem to not fully understand. </p>
<p>&quot;I guess now we live in a fascist tyranny.&quot; </p>
<p>That&#039;s a separate discussion. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4314520</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 03:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4314520</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;WE ARE NUBER ONE, GOD BLESS AMERICA!&quot;. 
 
 
Based on our laws, our ideals and our potential ability to return to all the made us great, and to do it even better than ever. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;WE ARE NUBER ONE, GOD BLESS AMERICA!&quot;. </p>
<p>Based on our laws, our ideals and our potential ability to return to all the made us great, and to do it even better than ever. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: bluffcreek1967</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4314475</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bluffcreek1967]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 02:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4314475</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[No, God isn&#039;t against drones - especially when they land on certain Muslim and Taliban leaders and their outposts. I pray each day that they will land on many of them. I&#039;m happy when this occurs. I sleep well at night too. 
 
I would like more of those same drones to land on certain &#039;enemies within&#039; here in America, but I cannot publicly name them now because I might get a special visit from you-know-who. But I can always hope and pray. Excuse me, I must enter my prayer closet now.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, God isn&#039;t against drones &#8211; especially when they land on certain Muslim and Taliban leaders and their outposts. I pray each day that they will land on many of them. I&#039;m happy when this occurs. I sleep well at night too. </p>
<p>I would like more of those same drones to land on certain &#039;enemies within&#039; here in America, but I cannot publicly name them now because I might get a special visit from you-know-who. But I can always hope and pray. Excuse me, I must enter my prayer closet now.  </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4314358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 02:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4314358</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What makes us exceptional? Are we born with super-human strength?&quot; 
 
The constitution. Why do people flock to immigrate? Check out global immigration statistics over any time period. Of course we&#039;re exceptional. You can argue over the details and values, but to argue that the US is not exceptional is delusional. That&#039;s as polite as I can be without lying. 
 
&quot;If we all bleed red, then something external makes us exceptional&quot; 
 
Well yeah. 
 
&quot;like a freedom unknown to human history.&quot; 
Right. 
 
&quot;Unfortunately, we now have the biggest government in the world and American exceptionalism is used to justify whatever government support and wars they want.&quot; 
 
The ones doing it harm are doing it in the name of &quot;anti-colonialism&quot; and downsizing American hegemony as if historically we caused all of the problems. Your own testimony says you disagree about that. Why do you support those who lie about it? 
 
&quot;Hollering &quot;we&#039;re number one!&quot; is the same now for TEAM USA as it is for cheering for your favorite local sports team.&quot; 
 
You object to blatant jingoism. Don&#039;t conflate that with rational just defense policies. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;What makes us exceptional? Are we born with super-human strength?&quot; </p>
<p>The constitution. Why do people flock to immigrate? Check out global immigration statistics over any time period. Of course we&#039;re exceptional. You can argue over the details and values, but to argue that the US is not exceptional is delusional. That&#039;s as polite as I can be without lying. </p>
<p>&quot;If we all bleed red, then something external makes us exceptional&quot; </p>
<p>Well yeah. </p>
<p>&quot;like a freedom unknown to human history.&quot;<br />
Right. </p>
<p>&quot;Unfortunately, we now have the biggest government in the world and American exceptionalism is used to justify whatever government support and wars they want.&quot; </p>
<p>The ones doing it harm are doing it in the name of &quot;anti-colonialism&quot; and downsizing American hegemony as if historically we caused all of the problems. Your own testimony says you disagree about that. Why do you support those who lie about it? </p>
<p>&quot;Hollering &quot;we&#039;re number one!&quot; is the same now for TEAM USA as it is for cheering for your favorite local sports team.&quot; </p>
<p>You object to blatant jingoism. Don&#039;t conflate that with rational just defense policies. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-d-tooley/is-god-against-drones/comment-page-1/#comment-4314340</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=178647#comment-4314340</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, I should have limited the quote. 
 
You said: &quot; I think that there is more than enough Biblical proof that He is more concerned with our salvation than our security.&quot;  
 
My question was why you were so concerned about a sovereign protecting its citizens in any case? 
 
 
&quot;Because it matters HOW a nation protects its citizens. It may not matter to you what the state does in your name, but it maters to God.&quot; 
 
 
I was not arguing that it didn&#039;t or doesn&#039;t matter. I was pointing out that you care for more than your words imply you should. By not being selective enough I confused you in to thinking that I accept your characterization; &quot;bomb those that hate us just in case they may do us harm in the future.&quot; That is miss-stating my position. I think that the standards and requirements for attack should be very high. We should always strive for the highest justice possible. Doing nothing is often more unjust. But these are decisions the sovereign must make. Christians are not obligated to get involved unless they can make specific arguments that for them to stand aside, they would be serving evil. Can you make that case? 
 
I think that what really shocks me is that the objections are raised most loudly about technologies that allow far more precision and deliberation than any other in history. These are technologies that facilitate justice much closer to perfect than ever before. We&#039;re spending ENORMOUS amounts of money in pursuing a just peace, as a matter of doctrine and pursuit of our cultural values. 
 
The objections against &quot;drones&quot; don&#039;t make sense unless you have specific policy application objections. The technologies generally lead to much fewer innocents dying and in some cases no innocents die when before that simply wasn&#039;t possible. Who spent all that money just to be so precise? Do you know what we used to be compelled to do? 
 
Nuclear weapons became a threat to peace when the Soviets successfully stole the technology. The arms race had arrived at a critical phase where any technology that increases intelligence and precision leads to our ability to prosecute with more intelligence, deliberation and precision. How is that unjust? Precision here means reduction of collateral damage more than anything else. Precision is directly correlated with smaller, less destructive devices. The ultimate end would be the ability to target a single human after a judge orders his execution, and the payload would be unable to harm anyone else. We&#039;re not there yet, but &quot;drone&quot; technology and precision guidance technologies get us infinitely closer than ever. 
 
Your objections depend on emotional arguments, not rational ones. If you&#039;re not concerned about defending the USA, that&#039;s fine. But at least try to understand the arguments before you&#039;re suckered in to supporting positions for emotional reasons. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I should have limited the quote. </p>
<p>You said: &quot; I think that there is more than enough Biblical proof that He is more concerned with our salvation than our security.&quot;  </p>
<p>My question was why you were so concerned about a sovereign protecting its citizens in any case? </p>
<p>&quot;Because it matters HOW a nation protects its citizens. It may not matter to you what the state does in your name, but it maters to God.&quot; </p>
<p>I was not arguing that it didn&#039;t or doesn&#039;t matter. I was pointing out that you care for more than your words imply you should. By not being selective enough I confused you in to thinking that I accept your characterization; &quot;bomb those that hate us just in case they may do us harm in the future.&quot; That is miss-stating my position. I think that the standards and requirements for attack should be very high. We should always strive for the highest justice possible. Doing nothing is often more unjust. But these are decisions the sovereign must make. Christians are not obligated to get involved unless they can make specific arguments that for them to stand aside, they would be serving evil. Can you make that case? </p>
<p>I think that what really shocks me is that the objections are raised most loudly about technologies that allow far more precision and deliberation than any other in history. These are technologies that facilitate justice much closer to perfect than ever before. We&#039;re spending ENORMOUS amounts of money in pursuing a just peace, as a matter of doctrine and pursuit of our cultural values. </p>
<p>The objections against &quot;drones&quot; don&#039;t make sense unless you have specific policy application objections. The technologies generally lead to much fewer innocents dying and in some cases no innocents die when before that simply wasn&#039;t possible. Who spent all that money just to be so precise? Do you know what we used to be compelled to do? </p>
<p>Nuclear weapons became a threat to peace when the Soviets successfully stole the technology. The arms race had arrived at a critical phase where any technology that increases intelligence and precision leads to our ability to prosecute with more intelligence, deliberation and precision. How is that unjust? Precision here means reduction of collateral damage more than anything else. Precision is directly correlated with smaller, less destructive devices. The ultimate end would be the ability to target a single human after a judge orders his execution, and the payload would be unable to harm anyone else. We&#039;re not there yet, but &quot;drone&quot; technology and precision guidance technologies get us infinitely closer than ever. </p>
<p>Your objections depend on emotional arguments, not rational ones. If you&#039;re not concerned about defending the USA, that&#039;s fine. But at least try to understand the arguments before you&#039;re suckered in to supporting positions for emotional reasons. </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Object Caching 718/804 objects using disk
Content Delivery Network via cdn.frontpagemag.com

 Served from: www.frontpagemag.com @ 2014-12-31 00:54:46 by W3 Total Cache -->