How Melanie Phillips Became a Culture Warrior

Mark Tapson, a Hollywood-based writer and screenwriter, is a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center. He focuses on the politics of popular culture.


melanie phillipsFrontPage Mag readers almost certainly are familiar with British journalist Melanie Phillips from her book Londonistan, which chronicled England’s multicultural slide into submission to Islam, or from her more recent book The World Turned Upside Down, about the West’s slide into secular mass derangement. But few readers may know about Phillips’ own journey from the political left to social conservatism. She takes us on that journey in the short autobiography she just released on her own publishing imprint, EMBooks, an ebook called Guardian Angel: My Story, My Britain.

This quick and compelling memoir of her personal and professional life “is the story of my culture war: the account of my battles with the hate-mongering left.” It spans her youth and her decades as a journalist, editor, prominent columnist, and author, reflecting the disturbing changes in British culture and society that she witnessed along the way. Those changes left two Britains in their wake: one “adhering to decency, rationality, and duty to others,” and the left, “characterized by hatred, rampant selfishness, and a terrifying repudiation of reason.”

In 1977 she joined the staff of the progressive Guardian, one of Britain’s most influential newspapers. The attitude there, as among progressives in general, Phillips acknowledges, was that “we were the embodiment of virtue itself… We were the left; therefore everyone who was not the left was the right. The right was evil; everyone not on the left was therefore evil… and everything not on the left was politically extreme.” The significance of this was that the left had hijacked the middle ground and substituted its own extreme values as the center of political and moral gravity.

Phillips herself was not driven by ideology, which meant that she found herself increasingly in confrontations with the Guardian’s left, “who had replaced truth with ideology, and whose weapon of choice against all dissent was vilification and demonization.”

It also opened her eyes about the left’s anti-Semitism; Phillips didn’t consider herself a Jewish writer, but the Guardian unofficially did, and this set her apart “from those who were going along with the great secular onslaught on the Judeo-Christian roots of the West.” Questioning the paper’s double standard in its coverage of the Middle East – giving Palestinian terrorists a pass while waging a seeming vendetta against Israel – she was shocked to realize that her cohorts were blinded by the prejudice of political correctness, which conferred victim status on certain “Third World” groups while holding “oppressive” developed countries like Israel to impossible standards.

By challenging their twisted thinking, Phillips had aligned herself with the oppressor. When Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 to crush the terrorist presence there, the Guardian’s chief leader-writer cornered Phillips and referred to it as “your war.” “At that moment,” she writes, realizing that she represented the Jewish “other” to him and to others at the paper, “the iron entered my soul.” It was a turning point of no return. The scales fell from her eyes and she understood that she was “wrong to have assumed that the liberal left was on the side of the angels. I now realized that, on the contrary, there was a gaping moral hole at its heart.”

When she wrote a column in 1987 placing the responsibility for the crisis in British schools to the breakdown of teaching, her Guardian colleagues were dismayed that she did not blame Margaret Thatcher’s “heartless” spending cuts, and in their eyes, “[l]iterally overnight, I became ‘right-wing.’” And indeed, “[i]ssue by issue, my writing during the 1980s and 1990s reflected the fact that Britain was undergoing a cultural revolution. And, as society changed, so too did my own attitudes change.” She saw her “former comrades on the left… embracing lies over truth, injustice over justice, rule by the strong over the weak – and even destroying the very basis of what it was to be a human being.”

Her biggest break with the left, however – “the most visceral, the most ferocious, the cultural Rubicon” – was over the breakdown of the family. “The fragmentation of the family was leading to the fragmentation of moral values – but any attempt to tell people how they should behave was damned as ‘theoretical imperialism,’ while tell them that lifestyle choice was the only acceptable doctrine was not.” Her defense of the traditional family unit marked her as a “right-wing extremist,” even an “Old Testament fundamentalist.” Gradually she saw that what the left hated about her was that “they understood that the banner behind which I was actually marching was the Biblical moral law which put chains on people’s appetites.”

In 1993 she left the Guardian and joined the Observer, and in 1996 she published All Must Have Prizes, about the ideological dogmas that were unraveling British education. “Most teachers, I wrote, were unaware that they were the unwitting troops of a cultural revolution, being now taught to teach according to doctrines whose core aim was to subvert the fundamental tenets of Western society.” This brought howls of condemnation from the left, naturally, but “[o]n and on I marched, straight into the guns. What else could I do?”

In March 1996 she won the Orwell Prize for political writing, and in 1998 left the Observer for the Rupert Murdoch-owned Sunday Times. “Was I now a conservative?” she asked herself. Though she resisted the label and was no devotee of the free-market and hyper-individualism, she was being invited to speak at conservative venues, and

Much that such people said resonated with me. They seemed to be refreshingly rooted in the real world rather than frolicking in the neverlands of theory and wishful thinking; they looked soberly at facts and evidence and had an open mind; in disagreement they were courteous and did not resort to abuse.

She went on to write for the Guardian’s nemesis, the Daily Mail, and she increasingly addressed the threat of Islamic extremism. When 9/11 came, “the twin tracks of my isolation on social and cultural issues and my isolation on Israel were finally joined.” For understanding that Israel and Britain faced the same Islamic enemy, she was now labeled “Melanie the warmongering Zionist Jew.” She subsequently published Londonistan, a book that highlighted “the unbridgeable chasm between myself and the left,” which felt like a “very bad divorce.”

Phillips still rejects a political label; she remains focused instead on preserving the values of Western civilization. “And that requires moral, political, and religious leadership of the highest order – and buckets of courage” – which she certainly has.

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  • m4253y

    Thank God for people of her caliber. Thank you Melanie, keep the faith

  • Chez

    Generous effort by Mark to rehabilitate Melanie on these pages considering her sadly lukewarm defense of Robert Spencer after his recent banishment from England.

    • Larry Larkin

      Leftism is often the moral and intellectual equivalent of alcohol, it makes you feel warm and fuzzy and blinds you to reality.
      Leftists who overcome that are often in the same situation as non-drinking alcoholics, occasionally they backslide and refuse to admit that they have done so.

      • Chez

        Good point.

      • southwood

        Getting at Melanie are we ? Just because she SENSIBLY rebuked Spencer and Geller for their support of the EDL. Quite right of her to do so. Nothing leftist about that. Nothing at all. Geller is pro-choice, pro gay. Where does that leave her in your metaphor ? A heavy drinker who is not quite an alcoholic ?

        • defcon 4

          The EDL seem to be the only organization standing up to islamofascism. Because writing the occasional magazine or newspaper article from the safety of your own home or office isn’t much of a resistance at all.

          • southwood

            Threatening to attack the muslim community and mosques is not the way forward. It gives Muslims the advantage of playing the victim card and they do it very well. Assuredly there is a fascist element in the EDL. Their leader has a criminal record and recently was convicted of illegally entering the USA. Demonstrations need to be carried out by responsible people in a restrained manner. As can be seen from the lack of it in the current Trayvon demos in America.

          • Drakken

            So in the face of Islamic aggression, you will just sit there and have a stiff upper lip and a cup of tea over it, so as to not upset the poor jihadist? I call it craven cowardice. The only one attacking anyone so far is your leftard commi organizations attacking the EDL. Looks like your Chamberlain approach to Islamic encroachment and aggression is a complete bloody failure. Mark my words, sooner rather than later your going to have to fight for your native rights and people or you will lose it to Islamic savagery.

          • southwood

            There is no political solution to this problem. You surely realize by now that this ain’t just a UK problem. The UK is part of the EU. The same problem exists in virtually every EU country from Greece to Sweden. OK ? So, it being a problem of immigration, demographics and all, where do you propose we start ? Even if the UK left the EU tomorrow we’d still have a huge and growing Islamic population and culture all around us. It’s all part of a globalist agenda. What are the western nations going to use to fight it ? Yobs fighting and burning in the streets ? The EDL haven’t made any difference unless it’s to make the muslims appear more as victims. The EDL are not a political party remember. You want us to ditch democracy and the rule of law ?

            I think you need to look in your own backyard, pal, instead of preaching your holier than thou sermons. Your borders are leaking in Mexicans, your government is interfering with citizens rights on many levels, and Islam is gaining a big foothold in the USA, aided and abetted by a president and administration which has all but outlawed criticism of Islam, even in the military. Why, even the Fort Hood jihad killings are described as workplace trouble. So what are you going to do about all that ?

            I am not saying we should do nothing. We should use all the means at our disposal to express ourselves. It has nothing to do with cowardice. The majority of people in the UK seem to want things the way they are. What do you suggest ? That we FORCE them to take a different view ? It’s a democracy we live in. But, ultimately, this is spiritual problem. The western nations once went by Biblical standards. America and the UK are especially culpable. I don’t know if you believe in God. I do, and until the western nations return to God and cast out the sins of abortion, sodomy and false belief systems we will get more judgement, and worse.

            It has all happened before. Read the book of Habbakuk.

          • Drakken

            Democracy as we know it is dead, it has been hijacked by special interest groups and identity politics. Our politicians, especially this new breed are driving our western countries into the ground and expect the populace to go with it because in their eyes, it’s good for us, right is wrong, and wrong is right. What to do about it? Get bloody angry, organize, get with likeminded folks and go to your local pols and express your extreme dislike of what they are doing, arm yourselves, ask your local old IRA and UDF guys on how to do that, or so I have heard. When you import the 3rd world, you become the 3rd world, it is that bloody simple. We in the US are being pushed to the brink and the leftist sing merrily past the grave yard hoping nobody notices them, we do. That is why when Comrade Obummer and his minions tried and continue to try to circumvent the 2nd Amendment, the response scared the living daylights out of them and it should, if it doesn’t they are completely oblivious as to the repercussions. Obummer has been the worlds greatest arms salesman ever, over 160 million folks have weapons and weapons and ammo are short on supply. When the SHTF it will start over there and quickly spread all over Europe and then come here. The 3rd world and the 1st world cannot coexist ever, conflict and war will result because these social engineers thought is was a good idea, well now they are going to have live or perish by it.
            You are not alone nor will you be. We are cousins by blood, brothers by need and comrades with common purpose.
            Semper Fi !

          • defcon 4

            Just sit at home drinking tea and loudly complaining about how all religions are the same. There are no less than 3 “authentic” islamic hadith that call for the worldwide extermination of Jews, but I’ll bet you don’t classify that as hate speech do you?

          • southwood

            Don’t give me your condescending garbage. I know more about Islam than you. And don’t make me angry either. I hold views which I don’t/can’t hide and could be jailed or fined for hate speech. So take your repellent attitude somewhere else !

          • Drakken

            Well quit going the passive route and start being active then! Sooner or later your going to have to get your hands dirty or perish.

          • southwood

            What exactly are YOU doing ? Has your country not reached the point where action is needed rather than words ? Why are you wasting time on this blog ?

          • Drakken

            I work in these Islamic cesspools, use your imagination as to what I do.

          • southwood

            I haven’t a clue. Enlighten me.

          • Drakken

            PMC

          • defcon 4

            “Don’t make me angry either”? SO you threaten me, when I criticise you?

          • Larry Larkin

            There’s your problem. Robinson was “convicted” by a British Court of breaking an American law. How can a British Court “convict” someone of breaking the law of a foreign country, especially when the foreign country hasn’t even issued a warrant?
            If the US was worried about Robinson entering their country and wanted to jail him for it they would have issued a warrant and applied for extradition to the British Courts. They didn’t do this, the islam appeasers in the British Establishment decided off their own bat to charge and “convict” Robinson of an offense committed outside their jurisdiction, and thus proved Robinson’s argument, that they are bending over backwards to appease muslims.

          • Drakken

            Obviously the muslim community hasn’t read the old Grimm’s Fairy Tale of the Little Boy Who Cried Wolf have they? It has a really neat ending that the muslims should pay heed too.

        • Drakken

          So please explain to the rest of us where anyone over there is pointing out the bloody obvious besides the EDL? I really hate to point out to you that the time for nice pleasant conversations over your jihadist problem have come and passed. Every time the EDL points out to the leftist their utter hypocracy, the left have a complete meltdown and have a frothing frenzy of defending the indefensible. You know your over the target by the amount of flak your receiving.

        • gray_man

          “SENSIBLY rebuked Spencer and Geller for their support of the EDL.”

          asinine gibberish.

          • southwood

            No it’s not.

          • gray_man

            Yes, it is.

            See, I can do it too.

            She should be supporting Spencer, Geller, and the EDL.

            Not rebuking anyone who is against Islam.

            She may not like the style or methods of those three,

            but they are still on the correct side.

          • southwood

            She wanted them to be allowed in the UK. These people are part of the problem too. Too bad you don’t understand that.

          • gray_man

            My problem with her is her ridiculous nonsense about the EDL. And no, people who tell the truth are NOT part of the problem. Too bad you don’t understand that.

          • southwood

            These people only tell PART of the truth. You don’t understand that obviously.

          • gray_man

            “These people only tell PART of the truth”

            Yes, that’s called the truth part.
            You don’t understand that obviously.

          • southwood

            You obviously don’t understand that “PART of the truth” means what it says, i.e. PART. In other words, they do not tell you the WHOLE truth. Like the oath in a court of law which refuse part of the truth but demands one tell the whole truth. OK ? Really, you need to use a bit more discretion. The EDL have besmirched any legitimate criticism of Islam. Their leader is a thug, violent and dishonest. Geller does not tell you that or that Vlaams Belaang whom she shared a platform with, encourage Nazi books to be read and pay tribute to dead Nazis, as has Filip de Winter. if you think it’s ok to collaborate with neo-Nazis, villains and racist, that’s up to you.

      • OfficialPro

        Yes, because all it requires is to FEEL. Not think. All you have to do is show that you Care, in order to be a Leftist.

    • hippiepooter

      Certainly in Mr Spencer’s case, one might argue that if he spent more time reading the Bible than the Quran he’d be a better person for it. Over Phillip’s difference of opinion with him over the EDL, he acted more like a follower of Mohammed than Jesus.

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Unsign-GellerSpencer-Petition/143087259226389?ref=hl

      • Chez

        I personally feel that Spencer’s intense, scholarly investigation of Islamic theology is what makes him invaluable to the Western world.

        • wildjew

          For whatever shortcomings he might have, his books have been an invaluable resource to me post 9/11.

        • hippiepooter

          His Islamic scholarship is an immense asset to counter-jihad, his obnoxious prima donna temperament isn’t, neither his support for a bunch of fascist street thugs like the EDL. The same also goes for Pamela Geller.

          • wildjew

            Again I will ask you. I wrote below: “As I was reading (on the Face Book page you posted) some of the reaction on the part of EDL to Islamic violence and terrorism in Britain, I wonder if it is too much different from the Irgun which also retaliated in kind to terrorism and violence? What do you think of Menachem Begin and the Irgun? I wonder what Melanie Phillips thinks of the Irgun.”

          • Chez

            Please cite an example of the EDL being “a bunch of fascist street thugs.”

          • hippiepooter

            Please read the posts and check out the links.

          • Chez

            @hippiepooter:

            Would you characterize all Muslims as terrorists because of the actions of a few? Of course not. Why then smear the entire EDL as “a bunch of fascist street thugs” because of a few bad apples?

            At least the doctrine of the EDL – as enunciated on their website – unequivocally disavows violence. Meanwhile, Islamic theology is replete with calls to violence.

            Response……?

          • defcon 4

            Nah, the rest of the muslimes, like you, constitute the cheerleading section and funding source for the rest of your more violent islam0nazi brethren.

          • Chez

            I’m defending the EDL….and I write in no uncertain terms “Islamic theology is replete with calls to violence”….and yet, you call me a Muslim. You’re obviously very bright.

          • defcon 4

            You try to tell me most muslimes are good people. I’m tired of hearing/reading/seeing that lie.

          • Chez

            Your powers of comprehension appear to be extremely limited. Where did I ever write that “most Muslimes are good people.”? I was merely making an argument that hippieppoter would never claim ALL Muslims are terrorists because of the actions of a minority of them, while he readily characterizes ALL of the EDL as “fascist thugs” because of the actions of a few.

            You see, you and I are on the same side of the argument, but you’re so dense you can’t comprehend as much.

          • defcon 4

            “THe actions of minority of them”. Who funds, equips, trains, organizes islam0nazi terrorism? How many islamonazi “charities” act as bag men for islam0nazi terorrism? Or do you think islam0nazi terrorism is a for-profit business venture (which it very likely IS in islam0nazi states).

          • Drakken

            Complete utter leftist propaganda, open your godamn mind will ya!

          • defcon 4

            I’ve never noticed any prima donna temperament (sic) exhibited by either Pamela or Robert and I’ve attended their speaking engagements personally.

          • hippiepooter

            Well, at least you’ve managed to avoid temperment (!) in this comment, in stark contrast to your histrionics in a previous thread.

          • defcon 4

            How can one avoid temperment (sic) Mehmet?

          • Drakken

            The EDL haven’t been thugs yet, but let a islamaniac blow up one of their rallies and all bets are off. If you think that Islamic aggression can be fought with niceties and pleasantries? You could not be more wrong.

          • 1Indioviejo1

            I believe we are way past the point of no return. Total war will need these “street thugs” you accusing the EDL of.

      • wildjew

        I have expressed misgivings about EDL on Spencer’s site though I cannot speak with authority. Thanks for posting this Facebook page. Do you know who wrote it? Like the author I also signed the petition. Does Ms. Phillips think EDL is anti-Semitic? As I was reading some of the reaction on the part of EDL to Islamic violence and terrorism in Britain, I wonder if it is too much different from the Irgun which also retaliated in kind to terrorism and violence. What do you think of Menachem Begin and the Irgun?

        • hippiepooter

          MP’s thoughts on the EDL here:-

          http://melaniephillips.com/a-hysterical-and-ignorant-response

          As for Stern and Irgun, I would guess she’s glad that Ben Gurion gave them a good pasting when the ’48 war broke out till they brought themselves under unified Israeli command. After 30 years in the political wilderness, it seemed that Israeli democracy had civilised them enough not to be the tyrants they might have been if they’d run Israel straight after independence.

          There is certainly no indication from the way Benjamin Netanyahu acts insofar as I can see that his father was Irgun not Haganah.

          • wildjew

            I think we might need to make a distinction between the tactics of Stern (Lehi) and Irgun. You agree with Ben Gurion ordering Jews to fire on the Altalena?

          • Chez

            Can you cite a single instance where the EDL as an organization has promulgated racist or antisemitic beliefs?

          • wildjew

            I don’t know. That is why I am deferring to Spencer and Geller. They have been with these people on the ground. I have not. Spencer and Geller say EDL leaders purge the group of anti-Semites and racists when they find them. I have to take them at their word. As to Phillips accusation that members of the EDL are thugs, I must defer to Pamela Geller who wrote:

            “I have monitored the group for the past four years. Are they perfect? Of course not, and I have expressed concerns in the past (here and here), and they do their best to purge their ranks of problems, but their heart is in the right place. I understand there is a class system still in Britain and these blokes are a bit rough round the edges and less than cultured, but so what? Who does Phillips think is going to fight this war? Dandies?”

          • Avi

            I agree – I base my respect for EDL on the sayso of Spencer and Geller. Their word is good enough for me. The rest – the media’s image of EDL – this is just propaganda in my eyes.

          • wildjew

            No. “Their word is (NOT) good enough for me.” Absent any first-hand knowledge, what else do I have to go on? The apologetic media? Media has discredited themselves on Islam over the years. Hasn’t it?

          • hippiepooter

            ‘Thugs win wars’.

            I remember a story on a defence lawyer who used that argument in mitigation for his thug clients who’d beaten some poor unsuspecting bloke senseless on a night out.

            The Judge told him that he had fought in WWII and his clients are nothing like the men he served with.

          • wildjew

            I am not saying a nation “has to be” thuggish to win a war. It would be far better if you weren’t thuggish. I don’t know how much you have studied the second world war, the last war the United States actually won. The Americans were thuggish. So were the British. I don’t know what else you call bombing whole German cities into rubble in order to demoralize the German people into surrender; into not supporting Hit-ler’s war effort. What do you call it? Nevertheless, I do not equate U.S. bombings of German cities (which I support) with Na-zi atrocities. They don’t even come close.

            Oh yes. There were the Roman wars that suppressed the Jewish rebellions, crucifixions and all. Thuggish?

          • Drakken

            These times are not the times of the ww2 era, these times that we are living in now will devolve to the level of a Balkans on steroids where quarter and mercy will be luxuries. Societal norms are breaking down to a level unheard of before, and we are be shown by reality that the melting pot is now the boiling pot and when the SHTF, we will organize and side with out own, it’s human nature.

          • Drakken

            We are not talking run of the mill legal cases, we are talking about warfare, completely different things.

          • Drakken

            We are all tribal and stick with our own when in times of crisis and chaos. The race and xenophobia card have been played out to the point they have zero meaning anymore.

          • defcon 4

            Xenophobia is a cornerstone of islamic theology, which is why all islamic states are religious apartheids.

          • zee

            What distinction are you referring to between Lechi and Irgun tactics?

          • wildjew

            It’s been a while since I have read that history. I seem to recall Lehi (Stern gang) were less discriminating in their retaliatory methods than Irgun. “Lehi assassinated Lord Moyne, the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, in Cairo.”
            I distinctly remember Lehi wanted to make contact with the Nazis; to negotiate. Not so Irgun. Irgun suspended attacks against the British during the war. Lehi did not suspend attacks against British targets.

          • zee

            Why exactly do you believe members of the Irgun and Lechi needd “civilizing”.

            Ben-Gurion is the one who was tyranical. He was the one who informed on Jewish fighters and turned them in to the British enemy. He was the one who almost started a civil war by attacking an arms ship and firing on Jewish fighters (the Altalena). Begin prevented a civil by refusing to allow anyone under his command to return fire against other Jews.

      • gray_man

        Spencer reads the Bible just fine thank you. Try reading some of his books.

        • hippiepooter

          The way Spencer (and Geller) reacted to Melanie Phillips’ difference of opinion with them over the EDL showed them to be as hateful and vengeful as the Muslims they condemn.

          Spencer just has a down on Phillips because she doesn’t see things the way he does, and he doesn’t care how much damage he does to the cause of counter-jihad by putting his petty vindictiveness first.

          He and Geller claim to be champions of free speech, but various people have noted how they delete a lot of constructive criticism from their blogs.

          I’ve been in private email correspondence with Spencer and I find him a very disturbing and unsettling character. This is a comment of mine he deleted from his blog:-

          If any good has come out of the Home Office’s undoubtedly dhimmi decision to exclude M/s Pamela Geller and Mr Robert Spencer, it is that their totalitarian response to Melanie Phillips distancing herself from their support of the EDL (while resolutely opposing their ban and lauding Mr Spencer’s Islamic scholarship) has shown them for the deeply unpleasant people they really are and seems to go a long way towards explaining why they support a bunch of (not so) crypto-fascist street thugs like the EDL.

          Personal grudges and animosity are clearly more important to Mr Spencer than the cause of counter Jihad.

          In a post early June Mr Spencer clearly seems to have a down on M/s Phillips that we have now seen is more important to him than respectful difference of opinion for the greater good of the counter jihad struggle.

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/06/robert-spencer-boston-london-paris-the-goal-of-the-islamophobia-hysteria-realized.html

          “Even Melanie Phillips, in a column calling for some measure of realism in the official response to the jihad threat, felt it necessary to utter the usual pro-forma niceties: after criticizing “an interpretation of Islam which takes the words of the Koran literally as a command to kill unbelievers in a jihad, or holy war, in order to impose strict Islamic tenets on the rest of the world,” Phillips assured us that “of course, millions of Muslims in Britain and elsewhere totally reject this interpretation of their religion. Most British Muslims want to live peacefully and enjoy the benefits of Western culture. They undoubtedly utterly deplore the notion that the kind of carnage that occurred in Woolwich should take place in Britain.”

          Phillips, of course, has made serious lapses of judgment in the past. And so perhaps it is not surprising that she feels it necessary to affirm the existence of these “millions of Muslims in Britain and elsewhere” who “totally reject this interpretation of their religion,” despite the fact that there is absolutely no tangible evidence that they really exist at all, or if they do, that they are really interested in doing anything to oppose this interpretation of their religion.”

          A perfectly reasonable point to make, insofar as it goes, whether one agrees with it or not. But on Mr Spencer’s part, a very hypocritical point as well.

          Here I quote him verbatim (link below) in interview with Alan Colmes 26/07/11:-

          Colmes: Do you have anything good to say about Islam? [....]

          Spencer: Islam makes a lot of people be very moral and upright and live fine lives.

          Colmes: [....] Wouldn’t that be true of most Moslems?

          Spencer: I would certainly say so yeah, I never have denied it.

          http://www.alan.com/2011/07/26/robert-spencer-of-jihad-watch-defends-himself-on-charges-is-sympatico-with-norway-terrorist/

          I tried to get M/s Geller and Mr Spencer to apologise for their vehement intolerance for M/s Phillips for distancing herself for their support of the EDL in the interests of counter-jihad unity, but (certainly on Mr Spencer’s part) they just spewed hatred towards me. In fact Mr Spencer made a vehemently hateful anti-English remark in his last email to me.

          A great shame. Mr Spencer is undoubtedly the foremost among counter-jihad Koranic scholars, and M/s Geller highly articulate and a great campaigner, but I will not support people who, at the very least, wage counter jihad to enable fascism.

          • gray_man

            The way Spencer (and Geller) reacted to Melanie Phillips’ difference of opinion with them over the EDL showed them to be as hateful and vengeful as the Muslims they condemn.

            Two words: B.S.

  • hippiepooter

    Melanie Phillips has recently discovered that not everyone on the right brooks disagreement courteously viz the Geller/Spencer ban! There is a certain boorish, tribal element on the right that is very off-putting.
    However, that, thankfully, is not the norm. I know that personally having been on the left at the precocious age of thirteen to my late teens, what impressed me about conservatives was their ability to argue rationally and reasonably – always the basis for good debate and discussion if one’s up for examining one’s own ideas as well as the other person’s, ie what democracy’s all about! – and what disturbed me was the intense personal loathing of conservatives by almost everyone I knew on the left. It seemed to me literally inhuman. Conversion to Christianity made me face up to the reality of the world we live in and I eventually ended up politically a conservative.
    I remember the first time I came across Melanie Phillips on a late night discussion programme on Britain’s Channel 4 in the mid 80′s. There she was, Guardian social affairs correspondent, eton crop (which she still sports!), glasses, and my immediate thought was (cough) ‘feminist bitch’! What I heard from her absolutely floored me though. The most soundest of sound of common sense and moral decency. It was patently obvious she would not be remaining on the left for long, or at the Gruaniad for that matter. She was way too mugged by reality.
    Melanie Phillips is a great moral anchor against the forces of nihilism that buffet the good ship Britannia. While democracy’s a sinking ship across the West, she’s constantly bailing out water waiting for others to lend a hand in hope against hope that the ship can be saved. She’s a constant reminder for those rubbing the big 5 0 that the better Britain we remember – the far better Britain we remember – is not a figment of our imagination, but something that was and can be again. That it’s a Britain to believe in.
    No matter how many squalls of hate and venom come her way, she still marches implacably on in her quest to save Britain. She’s a beacon of light for many; much loved and hugely admired for her courage and devotion to love, truth and justice.

    • southwood

      Well said. MP is also a wise owl when it comes to drugs. She
      argued for the dangers inherent in cannabis, a fact which even the UK government acknowledged when it re-classidied the drug.

      BTW may I suggest that you could have explained the misspelling of Guardian into Gruaniad, or rather Grauniad, for the mostly American readership of this site, that it’s because of their regular typo errors. It’s a British joke folks. It was the satirical mag Private Eye who started it.

      • hippiepooter

        I thought I’d wait for someone to ask, but glad you’ve pointed it out!
        Perhaps not typos though, perhaps the result of employing typsetters the victims of the education systems lefties have ruined by their ideology. ‘Everyone Must have Prizes’, as someone once said!

    • wildjew

      It is possible (like Michael Savage) Spencer and Geller will not overturn the ban on them traveling to England but what would you have them do? Why not contest it?

      • southwood

        Tommy Robinson of EDL will be able to advise them what do, i.e., follow his example: just travel on a false passport.

    • Chez

      “There is a certain boorish, tribal element on the right that is very off-putting.”

      Like joining in the Left-wing defamation of the EDL, unjustly smearing them as “a bunch of fascist street thugs”….?

      • glennd1

        No, like Pamela Geller and say Glenn Beck, moron.

        • ColonelNeville

          “moron” eh? How ironically boorish of you. No, really. Colonel Neville.

        • defcon 4

          Your islam0nazi pals would agree and I’ll bet you would agree to their solution to said problem.

  • andy_gill

    Melanie is fearless and outspoken, a true champion of the enlightenment, and a terrifying scourge of Islamofascism.

  • WayneOvolcano

    Thank God for brave people.

  • Trappedincalifornia

    I can relate to Melanie as I experienced the same kind of progression from left to right after owning a business in San Francisco & buying a house in Oakland, CA. The dark heart of the left revealed itself especially the anti-Semitism directed at my Jewish husband. While I will never be an evangelical Christian I do appreciate the rational, measured discussions from the right. It’s so nice to be able to discuss issues & agree to disagree without rancor. I remember a time in America when that was the norm.

  • jzsnake

    Melanie is a true warrior though I wish she’d lay off her crusade against marijuana a subject she knows nothing about.

    • southwood

      She knows a good deal about cannabis. I read her views and totally agree. It is a dangerous drug which destabilizes the mind.

      • jzsnake

        Shades of Reefer Madness. LOL!

      • Drakken

        Now that is something I can agree wholeheartedly with you on.

  • Paul of Alexandria

    Progressive ideology places intentions and feelings above real-world results. Conservatives try to see the actual consequences and side-effects in addition to the intended consequences. Phillips pretty much defines a conservative point of view, no matter what she may call herself.

  • slickwillieisaliar

    Funny, she don look jewish.

  • Avi

    I was an admirer of Melanie Philips till I saw her throw Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller under the bus. Since then I don’t trust her much anymore.

    • hippiepooter

      Must be a case of mistaken identity.

    • Drakken

      It a class snobbery British thing. Totally self serving and self destructive in its approach.

      • southwood

        No it’s not.

        • Avi

          Well, Pamela is certainly more popular than Melanie. Why do you think?

          • southwood

            More popular ? Where ? Not in the UK where she is unknown. BTW Geller is a liberal, NOT, I repeat, NOT, a conservative. Geller is so stupid, so indiscriminating, that she willingly shares platforms with neo-Nazis (Vlaams Belang) and pro-terrorist racists (the JDF). We need intelligence as well as brashness.

          • Avi

            I meant known/popular in the world, not the UK.
            As for liberal, you mean “libertarian,” surely. In the US, liberal refers to the left (democrats etc.). Geller is a Tea Party conservative.
            I do not know who you mean by “pro-terrorist racists (the JDF)”. As for “Vlaams Belang” i do not know whether they qualify as neo-Nazis, as you call them. On what basis?
            And by indiscriminating you surely mean indiscriminate – so I guess you are not English, since you do not know English.
            As for Geller’s intelligence – I read her blog daily and am very grateful to her for all the information in it, that no mainstream media tells us about. I call the publication of this information, and her whistleblowing regarding the Obam administration and regarding the Moslem CAIR and so on – I call that intelligence.

          • southwood

            Call it what you like, pal, but you are badly informed. Go and do some research. And, you’re right, I’m not English but the nuance would probably be lost on you. Geller a conservative ? LOL.

          • Drakken

            VB and the rest of the nationalistic movements in Europe are gaining strength and support,, an it is scaring the daylights out of the left. It is really quite simple my good man, there is no longer any room for middle of the road and middle ground, you will have to either get off the couch and get active, or sit there and watch as your 1st world crumbles around you and the savages take over.

          • southwood

            Do you suggest we jump into bed with every Nazi/fascist movement just ‘cos they oppose Islam ? So at the end of the day we avoid shariah but get the Nazis. You go that route if you want but count me out. VB scare me as much as the Muslims.

          • defcon 4

            The muslimes were on-board w/Nazism. The Grand Mufti traveled all the way to Berlin to lobby the fuhrer to stop merely deporting Jews to “Palestine” and begin killing them instead. Hitler himself deprecated Christianity while praising islam. It’s not the EDL that’s fascist, it’s the supporters of islam0nazism in the UK.

          • southwood

            Oh. really ? As if I didn’t know all that. So your intelligent (?) solution: jump into bed with the neo-Nazis ! Sorry, but your logic eludes me.

          • Drakken

            What is it going to take to open up your bloody eyes to the fact that the EDL and the rest of the right are not bloody fascists or Nazis? Christ you bloody Brits are dense as fence posts.

          • defcon 4

            Ever heard of a strawman argument champ?

          • Drakken

            Those so called rightist you are vilifying are as anti-Islamic as it gets, sorry but confronting the savages of islam is going to take more than a whisper and a unkind word, it will take the mailed fist to do it. Oh yes, the right are not fascist no matter how much your prestitutes say they are, so quit listening to the BBC and the rest pyscophant communist.

          • southwood
          • Drakken

            Oh now your listening to a communist blog, how quaint and shows your a effing moron.

          • southwood

            I draw the line at rudeness. Our discussion such as it was, is over. You’re a crypto fascist but you’re in denial.

          • defcon 4

            Strange how you accuse others of being “fascist” while you were the one advocating for the denial of Pamela Geller’s and Robert Spencer’s right to free speech.

          • southwood

            Absolutely EVERYTHING you have stated regarding me is a lie. There is not one piece of truth is your false accusations. You, mister, are a first order liar. You distort people’s words and attribute statements and views to them which they never made. People like you are dangerous. Nothing is worse than a liar. You have a lot in common with Muslims, a whole lot. They too are masters at lying with their taqqiya. People like you and that Drakken creature are part of the problem.

            Any further garbage you send me will be placed in the folder marked “trash”. Now go and take your vicious lies elsewhere.

          • Drakken

            Thy doth protest too much.

          • Drakken

            I am a nationalist, I firmly believe that our western civilization is worth protecting and preserving. The only one in denial is you, your uniformed and naïve view that anyone right of Marx is a fascist is exactly what our current re-education system is turning out these days. Travel to a Islamic cesspool so you can see islam in all its unadultered glory to see what is in store for us if we fail to stop its invasion.

          • defcon 4

            LOL, littlegreenfootballs was long ago outed as an islamofascist apologia site.

          • Drakken

            You quote LGF ? What kind of twisted leftard on steroids quotes an islamo friendly progressive garbage rag who are completely discredited?

          • Avi

            indiscriminate – not marked by careful distinction : deficient in discrimination and discernment (Merriam Webster). Undiscriminating means the same, but you said indiscriminating.
            The fact that you made such an error, that your vocabulary and spelling are so deficient demonstrates that you are not the enlightened person you pretend to be.
            Your confusing liberal with libertarian also shows your ignorance of things political.
            You call Pamela Geller stupid (and me an utter idiot) because you have no understanding of the issues involved.
            As for your “I know” Geller is not that widely known in the US – well, how do you know?

          • southwood

            EXACTLY WHERE are my vocabulary and spelling so deficient ? That’s insane ! You really are amazing.

            And spare me the lecture on “indiscriminate”/”undiscriminating”. I corrected it. Get outta here !

            Libertarians are just watered down liberals.

            If you think I have no understanding of the issues involved then ignore me. OK ?

            Bill Maher didn’t even know who she was, and, one thing about old Bill, he checks out the Right.

          • defcon 4

            Yeah for fascist pigs like you anyone who tells the truth about islam0nazism is the problem aren’t they? If you don’t want to read/see/hear anything critical of islamonazism ever again all you have to do is relocate — to ANY islamonazi state dirtbag.

          • defcon 4

            Muslime much? O merely delusional leftist tool?

          • southwood

            Either you’re a leftist troll or just a fascist. Which is it ?

          • Drakken

            It would seem that you side with the left, and the fact that you quote leftist really does show your true colors, so thanks for playing.

          • defcon 4

            It’s funny how you accused Geller, who’s Jewish, of associating w/ne0-nazis — even as you defend islam0-nazis that spew Jew hatred at every turn.

          • Drakken

            Your twisted logic defies any type of reason, unbelievable.

          • Drakken

            I really have to ask? What color is the sky in your world? Because you have no understanding of the subject at hand at all.

      • Avi

        I agree. Clearly, the polite British way of Philips is not working. A brash leader like Geller who tells it like it is in a loud and urgent voice is more likely to succeed.

    • glennd1

      Maybe if Geller wasn’t such a hateful lowlife, this wouldn’t have happened to her? I wrote Spencer several years ago when he started collaborating with her and told him that she would slime him and he would lose his standing as an intellectual and unbiased commentator on Islam if he did.

      Just read what Geller writes on her AtlasShrugs site (Ayn Rand would slap her in the face and denounce her) – you’ll see it’s full of invective and hateful rhetoric. Spencer does analysis and criticism, but when he partnered up with Geller, it doesn’t matter.

      Geller should be shunned by moral people. One can be anti-Islamist and see the threat clearly and not be a hateful shrew like her.

      • LindaRivera

        TAQIYYA! What dreadful lies. Pamela Geller is a human rights activist! There is absolutely NOTHING hateful about Pamela!

      • Avi

        She needs to be tough to wake people up to the danger of Islam and of the leftists who kowtow to it. Spencer is an intellectual, informative. But the anti-Islam movement needs a passionaria. This is not a polite game – it is life or death.
        Ayn Rand, by the way, was an active anti-Communist. She would have been very passionate about the danger of Islam today.

      • hippiepooter

        I’m glad she was kept out of Britain because she was going to give credibility to the EDL.

        However, your down on her is that she’s Jewish.

        • defcon 4

          Typical fascist pig. Free speech is only free for those it deems worthy.

        • Drakken

          It would seem that you would rather have tea and crumpets and ignore the problem than to confront it, I call it suicide.

  • glennd1

    Oh, so since Melanie Phillips says so, Israel didn’t cleanse it’s territory of 650,000 Arab Muslims in 1948 – okay. Zionism wasn’t a campaign of invasion, colonization and occupation – none of that ever happened. They didn’t take 20% more land than given in 1948. Wow, thanks for straightening me out.

    The truth is that the Zionists and the Islamists hands are soaked in blood – neither side should earn a moral person’s support.

    • Drakken

      Pssst, hey shortbus, those muslims that you give moral equivalency too, they start the wars those effing savages started, and then cry and whine to the leftist libtards that the Israelis were mean to them, to the victors go the spoils. Happy bloody nakba to the muzzy savages, more are on the way.

    • OfficialPro

      The colonizers in Israel are the Arabs.

    • defcon 4

      Nah, it was the Jewish people taking back their land from invading Arabic muslimes. Too bad the Copts can’t do the same thing.

      • EarlyBird

        Hey DipCom… I mean No2Deviants…where’d you run off to? Still looking for counter facts to my post about Iranians, you pathetic twit?

        • defcon 4

          I’ve talked to Iranian Jews, strangely enough they don’t share your enthusiasm for islam0nazism Farshad.

          • EarlyBird

            Fail.

        • Drakken

          Your Persian friends who love us so much don’t seem to be in charge of anything so your point is moot.

          • EarlyBird

            Don’t try to help out your side-kick, Drakken. He’s got to learn the hard way.

  • 1Indioviejo1

    MP is a brave an valuable fighter for freedom. And just as Spencer and Geller, and many others who are denouncing Islamofascism today, will one day pray that some men will stand ready to do violence on their behalf, even if today they foolishly shun these rough men. I believe the only chance Western Civilization has anymore is violence. In our cities, in our neighborhoods in our countries and in the world. We abhore it, denounce it, and deny it, but deep down inside we know it to be true. Maybe the ADL knows it too. George Orwell knew the Communist better than MP, and he hated war but he understood.

    “Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night
    because rough men stand ready
    to do violence on their behalf.”

    • Drakken

      It should not surprise you that sooner rather than later war will be upon us, the left will cringe and cry, the right will do what is necessary and roll up their sleeves and do what must be done.

      • hippiepooter

        The Left will be on the side of Islamism.

        • Drakken

          Let them, it will be their undoing and their doom in the end.

        • defcon 4

          The leftist allies of Iran faced a grim awakening when their islam0nazi allies carried the day in the Islamic Revolution there.

      • 1Indioviejo1

        I pray that someone will defend Western Civilization. The left wishes to destroy it just as mucvh as the Muslims do. So I hope that when the day of reckoning comes, the Communist will be squerely on the side of Islam.

    • hippiepooter

      The EDL will do violence on their behalf and noone elses.

      One fears the fight against Islamism will end up a war between two fascisms. It’ll probably even be (if this comes about) that when both fascisms find themselves in the ascendency they’ll recognise they have more in common than divides them and join together to turn on the Jews and anyone still talking about democracy.

      Britain is definitely in Chamberlain mode, and unfortunately there is no Churchill on the horizon.

      • Drakken

        The EDL is not of the fascist sort Sparky, they want Britain to remain British and not overrun by the 3rd world savages who wish to make it into a 3rd world cesspool from whence they came.

      • Oracle9

        Only if you consider Western civilization to be fascist. And there are too many who enjoy the freedoms we have to spin it exactly like that.

  • OfficialPro

    Melanie Phillips is what we’d call The Accidental Conservative. As soon as any part of her opinions didn’t toe the radical lefty line, that is what she became in their eyes.

    In reality, all she did was espouse common sense. And that’s sad, really, that the Left no longer even recognizes actual common sense but demonizes it.

  • DogmaelJones1

    The British people should take a leaf from Atlas Shrugged and go on strike against their insatiable power-hungry, politically correct, treasonous government and against the Muslim invaders in their midst. I’m surprised Geller hasn’t recommended that to them, given the name of her weblog, “Atlas Shrugs.”

  • John G. Gault

    Londonistan is a Great work!!!

  • johnnywood

    The UK deserves everything that happens to it because of the years of liberal thought and acceptance of Sharia. “Max Britannia” has become a joke.

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  • mtman2

    This IS why WE the People here in the USA are fortunate beyond all comprehension by virtue of the fact in OUR history past were men of such WISDOM as to set-up +bring about the gift of America to the world!

    Brits have NO SUCH THING, but have been pawns+cannon fodder for the “world-kingdom”[UK], then a socialist alternative as in place there today!

    Voila the Fabian Society-w/GB. Shaw; read his take on how the world should work!

    Lucky US – WE got Woody Wilson; read his take on America’s direction!

    WE are still in the struggle to rid OUR belly of the socialistic parasites that haven’t quite won yet, but what a case of I-BS + diarrhea!

    It really does ALL boil down to the Biblical-vs-Anti-GOD paradigm,
    in the West-1st where it started or will also end!
    What year is it again?…2013!…After what????

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