The Muslims Are Coming!

Mark Tapson, a Hollywood-based writer and screenwriter, is a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center. He focuses on the politics of popular culture.


gbThis Friday marks the Chicago, Seattle, and Los Angeles premiere of a documentary called The Muslims Are Coming!, which features a band of Muslim comedians touring middle America “to explore the issue of Islamophobia!” The exclamation mark is there to let you know that the show is going to be great fun! And all just in time for the 12th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks (as they say in comedy, timing is everything).

As the film’s website explains, this project arose in a context in which “Islam has been duly tarnished by the mainstream media.” Actually, it has been duly tarnished by the barbarism of Islamic fundamentalists, and duly defended and whitewashed by the mainstream media. “We are so many years out of 9/11,” the website continues, “and Muslim fear-mongering hasn’t dissipated.” Yes, 9/11 was so long ago and yet the Islamophobia inexplicably never ends! When are we Americans going to get over it and realize we have nothing to fear from Muslims?

As FrontPage Magazine has pointed out many times, “Islamophobia” is a Muslim Brotherhood construct to paint legitimate concern about the demonstrable threat of fundamentalist Islam as bigotry and “Muslim fear-mongering.” That threat didn’t end on 9/11 – it is a continuing danger not just on our own soil but worldwide, as the most cursory look at history and current events will show. It is offensive and dishonest to claim that the media are to blame for Islam’s bad reputation and that 9/11 is in the distant past. The day that the victims of 9/11 stop living in American hearts will be a day of shame and surrender for this country.

The movie description on the website goes on to say that “the idea that Islam is somehow antithetical to American culture just won’t go away.” I wonder why that is. Could it be because the foremost clerical authorities on Islam keep openly declaring that the faith is antithetical to Western values? Could it be because the Muslim Brotherhood’s stated mission is the elimination of Western civilization? Could it be because sharia law is unquestionably incompatible with our constitutional rights and freedoms?

The description continues: “If all you’ve ever heard about Islam”

is that it’s a dangerous religion, that women cover themselves, and that those shifty eyed Muslims have evil ulterior motives, this movie wants to give you a new stereotype. Yeah, this movie is going to convince you that Muslims are just a bunch of hilarious people.  By the end of this movie, you’re gonna love the pants out of Muslims.

That is just pathetic.

The film unsurprisingly includes commentary from the usual suspects like The Daily Show’s Jon Stewart, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, Al Jazeera America’s Soledad O’Brien, and Cenk Uygur, formerly from MSNBC and Current TV; comedians David Cross, Janeane Garofalo, Colin Quinn, and Lewis Black (now you know whom to boycott); loudmouth race-baiter Russell Simmons; and America’s first Muslim Congressman, Keith Ellison, whose Muslim Brotherhood affinities have been highlighted many times on FrontPage Mag.

The documentary’s point is that not all Muslims are terrorists – some of them are hilarious! And getting to know them will make Americans less bigoted and fearful, and that will heal the clash of civilizations. “The ultimate goal: present an Americanized face of Islam, create awesomeness between Muslim- and non-Muslim Americans of all stripes, and get these crazy kids to fall in love (the crazy kids being Muslims and non-Muslims everywhere)! Rest assured, you’ve never laughed this hard at a Muslim!”

It won’t solve anything. It won’t make terrorism go away, or the stealth jihad, or the violent hatred of Western kaffir, because those are objective threats and not paranoid fantasies that can be dispelled by a standup routine.

The comics themselves make this point in the film’s trailer. One says to an interviewer, “I don’t know if Muslims watching this documentary will consider these comics proper representations of Islam.” Another says, tearfully, “I wish I had more support from certain subsets of the Muslim community, and I don’t.” One reads aloud a message on the computer, “I wish these folks the best. They may well be setting themselves up to be killed.”

Exactly. These comics are potential targets of their own co-religionists’ savage intolerance. So to pretend that “certain subsets of the Muslim community” are not a threat, or that there isn’t something seriously wrong with the religion, is willful blindness. To try to shift the blame to average Americans for their supposed “Islamophobia” is literally to give aid and comfort to the enemy.

American bigotry and ignorance are not the problem. The problem is a politically correct insistence that there aren’t serious doctrinal issues of violence, religious supremacism, misogyny, anti-Semitism and totalitarianism within Islam that need to be confronted honestly and unflinchingly. Is suspicion of Muslims common today in America, twelve years after 9/11? Of course, and with good reason. And who is to blame for that suspicion? The media? Ignorant fear-mongers? Or Islamic fundamentalists themselves?

A more honest documentary about anti-religious bigotry in this country now would actually be called The Christians are Coming!, because there is far greater antagonism in the media and pop culture toward Christianity today than toward Islam. Are there even any Christian comics? I don’t see any with HBO specials or appearances on Late Night with David Letterman. Anyone billing himself as a Christian comic should prepare to be utterly ignored, if not reviled, by the entertainment industry.

For Muslim-Americans who don’t want to be judged by the evil their fellow believers do, the answer is not to try to slap a happy face on the issue and expect to laugh our troubles away, but to acknowledge that Islam itself, not “Islamophobia,” is the biggest obstacle to peace.

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  • Samir J.

    You know what I’d laugh at? A nuke being dropped on Tel Aviv, after all the Muslims and Christians had fled the area. Jews are the scum of humanity.

    • Bob Almighty

      You have an interesting perspective, thanks for sharing

    • DogmaelJones1

      And would your middle name be “Adolph”?

      • RLande

        Actually, it could be. The Muslim Brotherhood was a strong supporter of the Nazis in WWII.

        • mutosheep

          And the last caliphate (Ottoman) was part of the Axis in WWI

    • truebearing

      Sure you would. You’re a deranged, depraved Muslim with no conscience, morals, or the slightest amount of compassion.
      Islam is an evil religion. Thanks for providing your demented little polemic as yet more proof.

    • davarino

      You know what I’d laugh at? A nuke being dropped on Mecca, after all the humans had fled the area. Muslims are the scum of humanity.

      • kafir4life

        Not correct. muslims have nothing to do with humanity. Pond scum, maybe….but pond scum may object, so I apologize for that.

        • davarino

          You know what I meant ; )

      • therealpm

        I thought non-Muslims weren’t allowed into Mecca, so I might dispute whether there are any humans there to start with. I care not one iota about the Muslims, just as much as they care about us in fact. To be honest the idea of tens of thousands of them milling aimlessly round the black stone then being vaporised in a blinding white flash is rather appealing.

    • kafir4life

      Samir – Are you one of those moon god worshippers? The one invented by that pedophile mohamat? The mohamat that shat the contents of the terror guide, the koran?
      At allahu’s snackbar – pork rinds are buy one, get one free.

    • iluvisrael

      Nuke mecca and medina – and there aren’t too many Christians left in Israel because they are persecuted by muslim filth.

      • therealpm

        Actually Israel is the one country in the Middle East where the Christians aren’t persecuted, and where their numbers are rising. Could it be mere coincidence that it’s the only non-Muslim country in the region?

        • Gee

          Yes and since 1948 there has not been a single year that the Christian population hasn’t increased in Israel

          • defcon 4

            It’s the only state in the entire Mid-East and N. Africa where religious freedom still exists and, really, any freedom or liberty at all.

        • iluvisrael

          Yep – Israel is a bastion of freedom, decency and sanity in a neighborhood lacking all of those virtues.

      • mutosheep

        There’s plenty of Christian refugees from nations where Obama helped the Muslim Brotherhood overthrow the governments.

        • ziggy zoggy

          And plenty more coming. How much do you want to bet Obamahdi keeps them out of America and brings in the islamopithecine “refugees” instead.

    • Bert

      This guy must be a writer for the new show “The Muslims are coming”. Perhaps he is just giving us a sample of Muslim humor. I recall the Muslims who danced with joy after the 9/11 attack. Nothing like Muslim humor.

    • nomoretraitors

      You know what I’d laugh at? You being run over by a truck

      • defcon 4

        And then backing up and doing it all over again!

    • defcon 4

      A perfect example of muslime “humor”.

    • glpage

      That wouldn’t be anywhere near as funny as using a nuke to turn Mecca and the Kaaba into thermonuclear glass.

      • ziggy zoggy

        We could use it as a solar panel for Israel. =D

    • Drakken

      Your going to be in for a very bitter disappointment Haji, when us infidels tire of your savage ways we westerners are going to come down upon you muslim savages like a ton of bricks, playing a whole new game called cowboys and muslims.

    • iluvisrael

      don’t you have a few wives to beat and goats to bang?

    • ziggy zoggy

      Smear Job, you know what I’d laugh at? Your little pecker.

  • Bob Almighty

    Sadly, however, the Muslims ARE coming.

    • shmo123

      And why are they coming? Certainly NOT because any type of consent on the part of the governed, but because of irrational and politically correct policies put in place by the government. It could be stopped tomorrow with the stroke of a pen.

      • laura rubin

        it is a business decision. do you really think the government cares about these people? no! govt is office workers for the higher ups. the lower workers like the professors ma believe the fairy tales. even if they dont, they have to do what they are told, other wize lose the job. U.S.A. is was bought off a long time ago by saudi arabia. accept this! realize that all though history, countries have changed. we no longer need bloody invasions. now policies create the genocide.

        • shmo123

          I’ll accept that you need a grammar lesson, otherwise I’m not sure where you’re going with your rant. How exactly was the US “bought off” by Saudi Arabia” for one? Take a pill and try to be rational.

          • laura rubin

            dont you know about the US relationship w/arabia? instead of talking pills & grammer, do some research. i thought this was a know fact, especially for frontpage mag readers. US & mideast have been in bed a looooooggggg time. partners!

          • David Baines

            I’m not sure about the Saudis “paying off” America for any particular reason, but they have contributed generously to some of the Presidential Libraries.

            http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/15/the-clintons-saudi-funded-library/

            And the suspicion of the Obama campaign receiving undisclosed foreign funds continues to linger.

    • bluffcreek1967

      Yeah, they’re coming alright – mostly because white, guilt-ridden Leftists thought it was a grand idea to flood civilized western nations with hordes of non-white, third-world peasants who refuse to assimilate! The insanity of this is almost beyond comprehension, but most whites in the West have still not gotten how truly evil multiculturalism is. When they finally do, it will be too late to rectify things.

      http://www.ambrosekane.com

      • Seek

        You don’t think George W. Bush, a close friend of the Saudis, wasn’t pro-Islamic immigration? There’s plenty of blame to go around in both parties.

        • defcon 4

          The zero is demonstrably worse.

        • ziggy zoggy

          Bush was misguided and allowed that to happen. He didn’t encourage it and last time I checked, no camel Humpers have been to any of his ranch barbecues. Saudi Arabia was a strategic – and ostensible – ally. Nothing more.

          • defcon 4

            I don’t think Bush had any islam0fascists serving in his cabinet, or heading the CIA.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            I hate to rain on your parade, but GWB was just as stupid and incompetent as Obama when it came to Islam. As a matter of fact, overall he did far more damage relative to Obama. But, of course, if Obama could do more damage than Bush, he would. He just hasn’t had the same opportunities yet.

            Not to mention that Bush I was also incredibly incompetent when it came to Islam as well.

          • defcon 4

            But he didn’t have any islam0fascists serving in his cabinet, or the CIA for that matter. BTW, I don’t think the zero is “stupid” or “incompetent” WRT Islam. I think he’s at best a collaborator, at worst one of them.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Bush didn’t do everything in his power to strengthen Islam. Obama does. Surely you see that?

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Okay…if you want to delude yourself, be my guess. Sorry to have burst your bubble.

          • ziggy zoggy

            And how was Bush’s misplaced compassion worse than Obama’s nefarious jihad to strengthen Islam? Obama has riddled our government with islamopithecines and he has done it deliberately and with malice.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            And how was Bush’s misplaced compassion worse than Obama’s nefarious jihad to strengthen Islam? Obama has riddled our government with islamopithecines and he has done it deliberately and with malice.

            Misplaced compassion? Give me a break, you really mean misplaced liberalism, especially since that is exactly what compassionate conservatism is. Bush is incompetent because he is a liberal moonbat and Obama is incompetent because he is a radical Marxist hard leftist. It doesn’t make one bit a difference to me, because either way they are both unhinged and incredibly incompetent.

            Now I have no doubt that given the opportunity Obama would try to out do Bush in the destructive department, but luckily so far he hasn’t had the opportunity yet and with a little bit of luck, he won’t.

            Anyway, let me give you a couple of specific examples of Bush’s gross incompetence just for the hell of it.

            Bush’s so-called “War on Terror” was totally 100 percent fantasy based and it was destined to fail even before it was ever implemented. Thus, it was inevitable that it would turn into the biggest strategic blunder ever in American history exactly like it did, and I’m very sorry if you haven’t quite figured that one out yet, but nevertheless both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are complete and utter failures. Thus, trillions of dollars we can’t afford were utterly wasted and our troops were killed and maimed at the same time under false pretenses.

            Moreover, any common sense conservative would have acted immediately to outlaw Islam in the USA and also to ban and reverse mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage ASAP in response to 9/11, especially since it is really stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad for the strategic purpose of demographic conquest, and also due to the common sense fact that zero jihadists living in America would equal zero jihad in America as well. Not Bush though, after ferreting the Saudi princes out of the country in deference to the Saudi King he loves to smooch with, like the liberal idiot he is, he proclaimed Islam to be a so-called “religion of peace”. Then like a liberal on steroids he went about doubling the size, scope, and power of the federal government through the creation of the massive Department of Homeland Security and the humongous National Intelligence Directorate to allegedly protect the homeland from the scourge of terrorism. One of the problems with that is terrorism isn’t even an Islamic manifestation, and never mind the fact that there never ever has been a single terrorist attack ever stopped until after it has been perpetrated, not because Muslims are not terrorists but jihadist instead, but because growing the size, scope, and power of the federal government is never the solution to anything, much less for protecting the country. I could go on and on about the follies of your unhinged incompetent idol as I just barely scratched the surface, but I would only piss myself off in the process.

            By the way, I’m not surprised at all that you don’t know that Bush and Karl Rove did more than their fair share of infusing the government with stealth and deceptive non-violent jihadists as well. Apparently, you are only a Johnny come lately to the realities of politics and Islam in America. Indeed, it couldn’t be anymore obvious to me that you are a low information Republican voter.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            And how was Bush’s misplaced compassion worse than Obama’s nefarious jihad to strengthen Islam? Obama has riddled our government with islamopithecines and he has done it deliberately and with malice.

            Misplaced compassion? Give me a break, you really mean misplaced liberalism, especially since that is exactly what compassionate conservatism is. Bush is incompetent because he is a liberal moonbat and Obama is incompetent because he is a radical Marxist hard leftist. It doesn’t make one bit a difference to me, because either way they are both unhinged and incredibly incompetent.

            Now I have no doubt that given the opportunity Obama would try to out do Bush in the destructive department, but luckily so far he hasn’t had the opportunity yet and with a little bit of luck, he won’t.

            Anyway, let me give you a couple of specific examples of Bush’s gross incompetence just for the heck of it.

            Bush’s so-called “War on Terror” was totally 100 percent fantasy based and it was destined to fail even before it was ever implemented. Thus, it was inevitable that it would turn into the biggest strategic blunder ever in American history exactly like it did, and I’m very sorry if you haven’t quite figured that one out yet, but nevertheless both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are complete and utter failures. Thus, trillions of dollars we can’t afford were utterly wasted and our troops were killed and maimed at the same time under false pretenses.

            Moreover, any common sense conservative would have acted immediately to outlaw Islam in the USA and also to ban and reverse mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage ASAP in response to 9/11, especially since it is really stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad for the strategic purpose of demographic conquest, and also due to the common sense fact that zero jihadists living in America would equal zero jihad in America as well. Not Bush though, after ferreting the Saudi princes out of the country in deference to the Saudi King he loves to smooch with, like the liberal idiot he is, he proclaimed Islam to be a so-called “religion of peace”. Then like a liberal on steroids he went about doubling the size, scope, and power of the federal government through the creation of the massive Department of Homeland Security and the humongous National Intelligence Directorate to allegedly protect the homeland from the scourge of terrorism. One of the problems with that is terrorism isn’t even an Islamic manifestation, and never mind the fact that there never ever has been a single terrorist attack ever stopped until after it has been perpetrated, not because Muslims are not terrorists but jihadist instead, but because growing the size, scope, and power of the federal government is never the solution to anything, much less for protecting the country. I could go on and on about the follies of your unhinged incompetent idol as I just barely scratched the surface, but I would only piss myself off in the process.

            By the way, I’m not surprised at all that you don’t know that Bush and Karl Rove did more than their fair share of infusing the government with stealth and deceptive non-violent jihadists as well. Apparently, you are only a Johnny come lately to the realties of politics and Islam in America. Indeed, it couldn’t be anymore obvious to me that you are a low information Republican voter.

          • laura rubin

            wonderful post, well written.

          • laura rubin

            bush is very liberal. he never built the wall on the border. after all “mexicans have family values” (thats something obama says). comeon, the difference between obama & bush is that he’s a horse of another color. has another style & delievery.

          • laura rubin

            ziggy, it happens in stages. they are all one happy family.

          • laura rubin

            get this: these men are NOT stupid. they know what they are doing. you dont see they are diabolical.

          • marcy

            And I sure don’t see the American people rising up,I guess everyone is asleep?

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Man…you still have a lot to learn buddy, as Bush was as incompetent and blind with respect to Islam as his dad. Indeed, both Bush’s, Bush the first and Bush the second, were two of the worse presidents to ever serve in the office in either a Republican or Democrat capacity. In fact, one of the primary reasons the Republican Party morphed into another leftwing party subsequent to Reagan’s second term is because of Bush I and Bush II, as neither one of them had a conservative bone in their extremely incompetent leftwing bodies. It’s time to wake up and smell the roses son.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R6QFwKWFpA

          • ziggy zoggy

            Bush was blinded by kindness but he was no lefty.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Right…like his father before him, he didn’t have a conservative bone in his exceedingly liberal body. I suppose you are also a big Jeb Bush supporter as well. Oh excuse me, but I’m not a Republican since it is just another wing of Leftism. Indeed, both political parties in American are really two sides of the same leftwing coin.

          • ziggy zoggy

            The Bushes are raging lefties and so are Republicans? Bull$hit. As bad as things are, they aren’t that insane.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Dude without wasting any more of my valuable time on your ignorance, suffice it to say that you are one of the last Americans to realize that the Bush family consist of liberals and that the Republican Party today is just one side of a two sided leftwing coin. I bet that in deference to your idol, you also support amnesty for illegal aliens as well.

          • laura rubin

            ziggy, there is no difference between parties. that died out years ago. face it theres no santa clause.

        • sarthurk

          So, you’re saying white guilt ridden leftists ……………………………..It’s still George Bush’s fault. How original!
          NO !
          It’s still coming because political correctness has overcome common sense.
          If there’s coyotes in your field killing calves, what do you do?
          Shoot ‘em, or worry about what PETA is going to say?

        • bluffcreek1967

          You’re right Seek, there’s plenty of blame to go around. But it would be hard to deny that Obama has turned a bad situation and made it worse!

          http://www.ambrosekane.com

      • ziggy zoggy

        All true but most of the islamopithecines who colonize here are affluent – which means they can afford to fund jihad and hide their true intentions. For now. If they’re able to reach European levels of infiltration they’ll show their true intentions, drop stealth jihad and begin the violent phase of jihad. Some of them already do show their true intentions in places like Dearborn, New York City and Newark. Disgustingly enough, crowds walk right past them as they shout supremacist slogans.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      What you mean? They are already here. Millions of them and all of them jihadists in one form or another.

    • herb benty

      So what! They will be met with a hail of lead and the inventors of C-4.

  • True discernment.

    Ahh…
    Someone is talking about hating and bombing a certain race
    Let me see, I wonder if Samir J. could be Muslim?
    Nah. Surely not!

  • Jason

    In the words of Jimmy Carr “We all know that Muslims can take a joke.”

    Seriously, comedians are one of the legitimate ways that our society can exam Islam for what it is. Comedians are expected to be edgy, like yesterday’s article about popular culture, we need comedians to start making fun of Muslims like they make fun of everyone else. Popular culture needs to change before we have any chance of success.

    • Larry Larkin

      Like Western artists, comedians are conspicuously missing in action because they are either one or both of two things.
      Anti-Western or cowards. Simple as that.

      • Jason

        Not all, I can think of Jim Jeffries, an Aussie, who absolutely hates Islam. Look up some of his stuff.

        • ziggy zoggy

          I will.

      • kafir4life

        Penn and Teller make fun of just about everybody, and most all religions. When asked why they don’t make fun of islam, the answer was “we have families”.

        • mutosheep

          They also have body guards and tons of money to protect their families. If it doesn’t start with those who can defend themselves, we will never reach the point where muhammedans would have to blow up the world to stop the belittling of their death cult.

          Jim Jeffries is awesome. I especially appreciate his efforts to get stupid Americans to stop treating c*@t and t@*t as hate crimes. If it’s ok to call people creepy a$$ crackers before trying to beat them to death, then any word is OK.

          • defcon 4

            Rosie O’Donnell, who wanted to eliminate the ownership of guns, was asked about what about the people who can’t afford bodyguards like you can? Her response was something along the lines of let them eat cake.

        • defcon 4

          A rabbi came up w/a brilliant question for Penn on Glenn Beck. He stated if muslimes were to convert to evangelical Christianity would the world be a more peaceful place? Beck thought it hilarious. Penn, hemmed and hawed on the answer, but finally replied in the affirmative.

    • therealpm

      We know they like cartoons, particularly ones of Mohammed.

    • defcon 4

      For a while it did happen, Dennis Leary made some parodies of Charlie Brown cartoons that satirized the religion of peace. But he’s stopped doing it and I have heard only one comedian — “fluffy” ever call into question the rabid Jew hatred found in islam (albeit indirectly).

    • Raymond_in_DC

      Islam and Muslims, and even Arabs, are deemed off-limits these days for comedic treatment. Consider The Simpsons:

      Over more than 20 years there’s little that’s not been subject to spoofing, satire, ridicule, or good-natured ribbing on that show. That goes for religions and their adherents too, as long as they’re Christians, Jews, Buddhists or Hindus. But not Muslims. Not surprisingly, as folks behind the show openly admit, it’s due to fear. (They did so, for example, in a feature article “Are The Simpsons Jewish?” In Moment Magazine a few years ago.)

      Indeed, the only time the notion of Islamic terror was even broached was an episode in which a Muslim family moved next door and Homer stumbles on a cache of explosives in the man’s garage. Seeing something, he said something. But Homer was just being an Islamophobe because the man was just … a demolitions engineer! D’oh!

      • defcon 4

        I remember that Simpsons episode, I turned it off in disgust.

  • truebearing

    I’m sure that groups of nitwits will be side-splittingly funny. Maybe Rachel Maddow will be in a scene where homosexuals get stoned to death, or Jon Stewart can play a Jewish guy on a stroll through Palestinian territory. Oh, the hilarity!

    • defcon 4

      I’d love to see Rachel Maddow practice her LGBT lifestyle in any muslime state, or Anderson Scooper.

      • truebearing

        Somehow, it eludes those fools that they are supporting people who would kill them. They fail to understand even the most obvious things, like the fact that Muslims are bloodthirsty racists, sexists, and every other kind of “ist.” If they followed the news, they would know that an American Muslim jihadist was just killed in Somalia by his fellow jihadists for being a “dissenter.” My guess is that they killed him because he was a white American.

        • Drakken

          I am too the point now where I say let the leftist regressives live with their decision and the consequences of their stupidity, let Darwin have his due for I am out of sympathy or empathy for them because the information has been out there for years and yet they refuse to believe what is in front of them.

          • defcon 4

            I think a lot of the lieberal apologists/collaborators of islam0nazism will be cheering as the critics of islam0nazism are led off to prison for their criticism of the religion of peace.

        • laura rubin

          leftists have a death wish.

        • smsavoy

          he was kill by the leader he was a spy and being white didn’t help and both were on drugs

  • Michael Garfinkel

    My understanding is that these comment sections are provided to allow for an exchange of ideas.

    They are not meant to, nor should they provide a platform for vile and stupid obsenities – like the post here by Samir J:
    “You know what I’d laugh at? A nuke being dropped on Tel Aviv, after all the Muslims and Christians had fled the area. Jews are the scum of humanity”.
    I want to exphasize to Frontpage magazine that if their policy allows this kind of thing, that policy is very much in need of review.

    • Jason

      One of the beauties of freedom of speech is that once people make such stupid comments, we are free to criticise them and their view.

      • Marcus

        Preaching anti Semitic violence is not protected free speech. If you replaced “Jews” with Arabs you would likely get a visit from federal agents.

        • defcon 4

          If you replaced Jews with Muslims you would.

    • Drakken

      I say let them spew their venom about us infidels for everyone to see, then when they whine and cry about being persecuted we throw their own words back at them to choke on.

      • Juaniita

        But the AP will never report their deadly ways and how many
        Christians they kill.

        • defcon 4

          The enemedia never report the mass murder of Christians, Hindus (a trainload of Hindus was burned alive by muslimes in India), mass murder of children and teachers at an elementary school in Russia (Beslan). They
          lie for islam, and lie and lie and lie.

      • Silver Wolf aka JJ

        and there lies the problem they spew their hatred, and those of us who talk back are called bigots, racists, etc

  • AlexanderGofen

    Oo-oo! Islamic piranhas resorted to “moving pictures” (in spite of the prohibition of their pedophilic “prophet” to make even still pictures). Well, let’s talk pictures.

    This beautiful girl was raped, tortured and murdered recently by 20 muslims in Syria. Her crime? She was a Christian (May dear Lord take her in His arms).

    If your blood boils, it should, as it did in 2001 when Americans were burned alive of jumped to their death from the Twin Towers.

    What? Piranhas are concerned about “islamophobia”? Then let them taste our “islamo-hatia”. Yes, it is our right and obligation to hate the enemies of our nation and fight them: Meanwhile with pictures http://www.resonoelusono.com/islam/

    Fear not! Live opposite to a mosque or a consulate of an islamic nation? Display them in your window. Order your stamps with these images, or cheaper use them as mail labels (printed out on address labels sheets). Bring closer the day when MOSLEMS BEGIN LEAVING!..

  • RLande

    A phobia is an irrational fear. There is nothing irrational about being concerned about Islamic terrorism. And, profiling is a human trait that lets us deal with a new situation based on past experiences. Without it, we would keep putting our hand in the fire over and over again. If the US population understood Islam, there would be more concern and profiling. Islam is not a peaceful religion, although there are peaceful Muslims (as long as they are in the minority).

    • ziggy zoggy

      It should be called islamopathy, because most people HATE Islam.

  • tedh754

    Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl are unavailable for comment.

    • defcon 4

      Neither is Meir Kahane, or his SON, or his DAUGHTER-IN-LAW, who were all murdered by muslimes for speaking the truth about their death cult.

  • Melvin Bonzarelli

    Was the Prophet Muhammad a better dancer than Winston Churchill?

    • Jenanne Johnson

      well Muhammed was a pedophile so he probably did the hokey pokey better.. ;)

    • defcon 4

      LOL. A Producers reference. Where is Mel Brooks now?

  • nomoretraitors

    “Daily Show’s Jon Stewart, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, Al Jazeera America’s Soledad O’Brien, and Cenk Uygur, formerly from MSNBC and Current TV; comedians David Cross, Janeane Garofalo, Colin Quinn, and Lewis Black (now you know whom to boycott); loudmouth race-baiter Russell Simmons; and America’s first Muslim Congressman, Keith Ellison”
    Traitors and collaborators all

    • defcon 4

      John Stuart spent a lot of time in Iran, which makes me wonder if he’s a closet convert to the religion of peace, because I doubt he spent much time commiserating w/Iran’s persecuted Bahai, Zoroastrian or Jewish community while he was there.

  • Barbara D

    Here you have it in a nutshell: a perfect example of the “journalism” on FrontPage. The author has clearly not even seen “The Muslims Are Coming” yet, because it hasn’t been released, or even reviewed – he’s just seen the trailer, and uses his own bigotries to concoct a screed. There you have it. And yes, there are many Christian comics working the “Christian circuit” – notably Brad Stine, who arrogantly calls himself “God’s Comic” and who isn’t really a comedian, he’s a preacher who wraps his cliche conservative rants in “jokes.” He’s tied into the whole Liberty University/Glenn Beck/Fox News axis. He doesn’t work traditional comedy outlets, and doesn’t do television, because no one watches comedy to see a preacher. And to state “there is far greater antagonism in the media and pop culture toward Christianity today than toward Islam” – utter, paranoid, Christian as victim nonsense. There is not antagonism towards Christianity. There is however, deserved antagonism towards “Christian” leaders who try to turn America into a theocracy, rewrite history textbooks with “Biblical principles,” and take away the rights of citizens they don’t agree with.

    • mutosheep

      This victim of institutional anti Christian bigotry finds your post offensive and deliberately untruthful. To ignore the bullying of Christians by public schools, the violations of Christians’ rights to practice our religion by the Marxists in governments, and the media perpetually disrespecting our beliefs and marginalizing and demonizing us because of our religion is morally bankrupt. Your statement of neutrality contradicts itself as you simultaneously claim victim status while attacking Christians and denying our persecution. You are a holocaust denier who probably cries about an “Israeli occupation” while ignoring the rockets slamming into hospitals and schools daily, the genocide of Christians in Moslem countries worldwide, and the routine Islamic terror attacks on U.S. soil.

      • Barbara D

        Boy, you read a lot more into my comment than is actually there. As far as your cries of Christian persecution – when armed guards are coming into your churches and demanding you stop worshiping as you please, then we’ll talk.

        • defcon 4

          How about when muslimes come into your church and MURDER you? As they ARE doing in Egypt, Syria and Nigeria.

          • Barbara D

            They’re not doing it in the US, which is what the film is concerned with. Amazing how you guys can go way off topic.

          • Robert Lande

            The are not doing it in the US because they are not in the majority. The Qur’an teaches Muslims to get along with infidels when Muslims are in the minority. When Muslims are in the majority it is a different story altogether.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Atheists murder Christians in America quite often and Christians are ABSOLUTELY prevented from practicing their faith in more places than you could count ( which is probably only to ten anyway,) by P.C. fanatics like you. Police routinely raid Churches and oh, yeah……THE US GOVERNMENT USED TANKS, BOMBS AND GUNS TO BURN TO DEATH 86 CHRISTIAN MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN AT THE MT CARMEL CENTER, YOU STUPID IGNORANT FUCKTARD! So much a “phony” war against Christians in their own country.

            This idiotic jihad film has nothing to do with the persecution of Christians you twit, and it is aimed at infidels everywhere, not just in America.

            Smug, ignorant and stupid is no way to go through life, you skank.

    • Drakken

      Here let me help you out with the mental gymnastics that you have gotten yourself into. The most fundamental of the Christians will give you a headache, but they won’t kill you for your beliefs. The muslims on the other hand view any criticism of islam as blasphemy and they will kill you for it, so quit trying to play the moral equivalence card when there isn’t any. Why is it, that you progressive leftist are some of the smartest dumb people in our western nations with a suicidal death wish?

      • Barbara D

        Fundamentalist Christians routinely call for the death penalty for gay people. Minorities are routinely attacked by right wing “Christian” extremists. Christian extremists in power ignore reality and seek theocracy in school, business and government. Look it up. But my original point in this article is that the author clearly hasn’t seen the film and goes ahead and writes about it anyway, which is typical of right wing sites such as this.

        • Drakken

          Complete utter leftist regressive B_U_L_L_S_H_I_T ! You leftist retards think that western civilization is the fault of everything and yes that does include Christianity, that you openly side with the very same muslim savages that will eliminate you in the end. Your living proof that you just can’t fix stupid, not even with duct tape. Try using less emotion and feelings, and use a lot more simple logic, facts and common sense.

          • Barbara D

            See above for facts & common sense, which you will no doubt deny.

          • defcon 4

            If you REALLY care about LGBT rights why don’t you publicly lecture muslimes about homosexual rights in a muslime state? Put your money where your mouth is. Bring some of your lieberal friends w/you.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Are you really this fucking stupid and ineffective? I know leftists are too stupid to realize they actually are stupid but you take it to new depths. There is no denying that you are the stupidest and most vicious liar I have encountered since the last time I saw my ex-wife. At least she can claim to be physically attractive, which is something I have no doubt that you are NOT.

          • Barbara D

            My goodness, someone didn’t take their meds this morning. Right wing arguing: call them stupid, then use obscenities, then if all else fails insult a woman’s looks. It’s the typical pattern.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Projection. The typical leftist pattern. “Minorities” and atheists routinely attack Whites and Christians. Atheists in power routinely ignore the 80% Christian majority and seek to suppress them in school, government and business. LOOK IT UP.

            The writer of this article did not comment on the details of this film. I notice you have no problem commenting on it or the people here who hate taqiyah and stealth jihad.

            Like I wrote: Projection. A lefty standard. Wipe your chin.

          • Barbara D

            That’s because, unlike the author or probably anyone posting here, I SAW THIS FREAKING MOVIE at a screening in NY two weeks ago.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You are a lying sack of $hit.

          • Barbara D

            Today in “Christian Love.”

        • defcon 4

          LOL, let’s see some proof that “Christians routinely call for the death penalty for gay people.” Idjit.

          • Barbara D
          • rsilverm

            This is the first I have ever heard of it, which proves it is not routine. It is apparently very rare. On the other hand calls for death to gays in the Islamic world are mainstream. And further to the point, in Islam, they don’t just talk about it.

          • Drakken

            Funny thing about those links you site, they are all leftist regressive propaganda sites, thanks for playing leftard.

          • Barbara D

            So? The evidence is real, it’s just the tip of the iceberg as far as the antics of frightened, hate filled “Christians” who come up with new whoppers each and every day – just listen to Bryan Fischer or Tony Perkins. And of course you deny facts, which is what conservatives routinely do when confronted with facts they don’t like. Then when confronted they scream and insult and name call and and try to intimidate, followed by taking out their gun. Conservatives cannot stand any dissent whatsoever, unless they’re the ones doing the dissenting. The more conservatives squeal like stuck pigs, the more they’re proven wrong. They’re pathetic little babies who have had their pacifier taken away from them.

          • defcon 4

            Your evidence doesn’t support your contention that it’s “routine”. Routine as in widespread.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You have absolutely no credibility whatsoever. Any leftward who ignores the death penalty Islam routinely subjects gays to and attempts to divert attention to a phony Christian pogrom is the scum of the Earth and an easily disproved liar. There is no Christian doctrine or practice of persecution or hatred toward gays. Your left-wing paste job is a joke but if you ret@rds were capable of learning you would be moderates or conservatives.

            And your phony description of conservatives is 100% projection. (Big surprise there.) you described lefties perfectly, especially the bit about pulling guns on those who disagree with you. The Columbine shooters, Jared Loughner, James Holmes, Adam Lanza, Chris Dorner, and every other mass shooter in American history – all far left scumbags who hated everybody who thought differently than they did.

            You are a clown. What bugs me about smug little lefties like you is that not only do you fail to see how stupid and ignorant you are, but you actually believe you are intelligent and well informed! Drooling on your keyboard and surfing left-wing hate sites does not make you morally and intellectually superior anybody, much less the dreaded conservatives. I mean, really. How stupid do you have to be to believe the leftist/DNC meme that conservatives are anti – gay, women, minority, elderly, etc. your notion that we are Bible toting, gun worshipping bigots is a galactic ally stupid calumny that all you marching morons accept as fact. Again, how stupid are you?

          • hiernonymous

            “….every other mass shooter in American history – all far left scumbags who hated everybody who thought differently than they did”

            Where did you come up with this gem?

          • ziggy zoggy

            O.K. You caught me engaging in hyperbole or bombast, or whatever. I’m sure we could come up with some mass shooters who weren’t lefties but most of them were. All of the recent ones were, and that’s for sure. I own guns and I don’t shoot people for holding different opinions. Anecdotal, I know, but really, how many conservatives shoot lefties for being lefties?

          • hiernonymous

            “Anecdotal, I know, but really, how many conservatives shoot lefties for being lefties?”

            Off the top of my head, the weapon of choice for that category would seem to be bombs (McVeigh and Rudolph come to mind).

          • defcon 4

            Rudolph? Who?

          • hiernonymous

            Um – Eric Rudolph, one of the most famous domestic terrorists in U.S. history. 1996 Olympic bombing ring a bell?

          • defcon 4

            Gee, the thousands killed in the name of islam since then have kind of overshadowed his actions. I’ll bet muslimes kill more people on a slow week in your death cult than Rudolph ever killed in his lifetime. BTW, your muslime buddies killed as many people as Rudolph only a few years earlier, when they bombed the WTC.

          • hiernonymous

            You seem to be having a little trouble following the conversation. My comment was offered in response to a specific question, which had to do with the right-left orientation of mass killers in the United States.

            In that context, I think that you’ll find that the left-right orientation of the Muslim terrorists is distinctly conservative.

            If, on the other hand, you want to try to shift the conversation to a different topic, and talk about casualties inflicted by Christians vice Muslims, then feel free to do so. What do you think the comparable statistics actually are?

            “Gee, the thousands killed in the name of islam since then have kind of overshadowed his actions.”

            I suppose that if you are either indifferently educated, or have a very short attention span, then I’d understand why Rudolph would slip your mind. For those of us who can hold more than one thought at a time in our mind, there’s room to remember both the Olympic terrorism and 9/11.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Now islamopithecines are conservatives? Cult fundamentalism has nothing to do with Western conservative principles but it does bear a similarity with the totalitarian left.

            Rudolph is only remembered by €unts who try to claim he was a right-winger. The guy only killed two people. Nobody racks up innocent body counts like lefties. Not even the islamopithecines can compete with Mao, Stalin, Hitler or Pol Pot.

          • defcon 4

            Hmm, the slaughter of Hindus by muslimes in the Indian sub-continent has an upper bound of 80 million, over the course of a few centuries (incl.the 20th).

          • hiernonymous

            “Now islamopithecines are conservatives?”

            I wouldn’t know; I have no idea what you mean by “islamopithecine.” To borrow a phrase, if you’re trying to be witty, you’re halfway there.

            “Rudolph is only remembered by €unts who try to claim he was a right-winger.”

            Of course.

            “…can compete with Mao, Stalin, Hitler or Pol Pot.”

            Hitler a lefty? That’s a very Through-the-Looking-Glass approach to the word.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Of course you denied everything I described about you. And Hitler the socialist wasn’t a lefty.

            Ret@rd.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Rudolph wasn’t a terrorist. He was a bomber. He wanted to kill people watching the Olympics, not terrorize the population or murder people who didn’t belong to his religion or creed. Try again, and don’t say the una-bomber. He targeted specific people for revenge.

          • hiernonymous

            “Rudolph wasn’t a terrorist. He was a bomber. He wanted to kill people watching the Olympics, not terrorize the population or murder people who didn’t belong to his religion or creed. Try again…”

            Well, no. Not sure where you got the impression that terrorism is tied to religion or creed, but it’s a hole in your education.

            Nor, for the purposes of the conversation, is it relevant. The issue in play was your assertion that our domestic mass killers were all ‘lefties,’ and I think we’ve disposed of that notion by now.

          • defcon 4

            WRT the comment about “terrorism is tied to religion [sic] or creed”

            “I have been made victorious through terror.”
            – Muhammad, founder of Islam, Bukhari, Vol 4, Book 52. 220

          • hiernonymous

            A religious figure made reference to the use of fear, and you conclude thereby that fear has become a religious concept? That’s an interesting line of thought.

            If you had read Arthur Harris’s quotes first, would you have concluded that terrorism is inextricably linked to Lancaster bombers?

            … the destruction of houses, public utilities, transport and lives, the creation of a refugee problem on an unprecedented scale, and the breakdown of morale both at home and at the battle fronts by fear of extended and intensified bombing, are accepted and intended aims of our bombing policy. They are not by-products of attempts to hit factories.

          • ziggy zoggy

            A cult figure made terrorism a founding principle of his death cult.

          • ziggy zoggy

            All American mass murderers have been lefties. Rudolph only killed two people and he was a lefty too. Terrorists try to scare people out of their group. Duh. Killing isn’t terrorism unless the killer wants to terrorize the entire population. Lefties and islamopithecines only.

            BTW, an islamopithecine is a semi-erect hominid from Arabia known for its mindless savagery, tiny brain, tiny penis and foul odor. 3:)

          • ziggy zoggy

            Terrorism absolutely is “tied” to a purpose. It is meant to frighten and murder as many random citizens as possible. It has nothing to do with sports.

            Rudolph only killed two people. ALL mass murderers in America have been lefties and islamopithecines. Even the mad bombers of the 19th century were left-wing anarchists and Marxists. BTW, an islamopithecine is a semi erect hominid characterized by a small cranium, foul odor and the smallest phallus in the simian kingdom.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Off the top of my head, the weapon of choice for that category would seem to be bombs (McVeigh and Rudolph come to mind).

            Rudolph may have been a very mentally ill Christian fanatic, but he was hardly a conservative, and the same with McVeigh, who was a pot smoker but neither a Christian nor a conservative. Try again on that one.

          • hiernonymous

            Well, no. It’s an old dodge to dismiss the criminal acts of one’s favored position, sect, group, nationality, etc, by insisting that the perpetrators were not represenative, while the perps from the “other side” are, in fact, representative. Sorry, that dog won’t hunt. Unlike the examples offered above (Lanza, Holmes, etc), both McVeigh and Rudolph offered explicit political justifications for their actions.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Dismissing the criminal acts of one’s favored group and blaming another group for crimes they didn’t commit IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU’RE DOING, you @$$.

            Neither!cVeigh or Rudolph offered conservative justifications for their actions. In fact, their rhetoric jibed with the rhetoric coming from Obama right now. They all have hated America and its traditions.

            Loughner, Lanza and Dorner all left messages affirming their leftist hatred of conservatives. So did that Asian kid who went on a shooting spree at his college. Add him to the list of lefty mass shooters.

            Own up to it. Lefties murder people they disagree with, and they have no problem murdering children. I guess they figure 1.21 million abortions a year isn’t enough.

          • hiernonymous

            “Dismissing the criminal acts of one’s favored group and blaming another group for crimes they didn’t commit IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU’RE DOING, you @$$.”

            Two comments: 1) Well, no, it’s not. I’m not polarized enough to try to make a case as fatuous as “only people of political persuasion _________ commit mass murders.”
            2. You might want to consider switching to decaf for a while.

            Neither!cVeigh or Rudolph offered conservative justifications for their actions. In fact, their rhetoric jibed with the rhetoric coming from Obama right now.

            Take a look at my posts to Defcon4. McVeigh inveighed against socialism and government tyranny – sounds pretty conservative to me. Rudolph’s screed is still up on the net for all to see. I haven’t seen anti-abortion violence too high on the list of liberal causes recently. Not sure how either “jibes” with “the rhetoric coming from Obama right now,” but if you want, feel free to be more specific.

            “Loughner, Lanza and Dorner all left messages affirming their leftist hatred of conservatives.”

            What did Lanza say? I’m interested in seeing your source.

          • ziggy zoggy

            McVeigh hated the lefty Clinton government and Rudolph was a textbook leftist.

            The writing of every left-wing mass shooter is on the web to read. I’m interested in seeing your source.

            Not.

          • ziggy zoggy

            I’ve already proved that all mass shooters in America have been shrieking lefties. Except for islamopithecines, all mass murderers period have been moon bats. Inconvenient fact.

            McVeigh did not utter a single conservative principle in the cherry picked quote you attribute to him. Like Obama, he hated conservative America and wanted to fundamentally transmogrify it into something else. Rudolph was the same.

            Lefties love to kill babies as the 1.21 million infanticide s a year proves. They like shooting children in schools, theaters and grocery stores, too.

            Lanza said he went to that particular school because it was a “gun free zone” and he knew defenseless children would be easy to kill. He wanted to rack up the world record body count for a psycho-lefty shootist. Check any media source. They are all the same.

            Lefties like to murder people they disagree with in a cowardly fashion. That is a fact.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Really that dog won’t hunt! Okay, then put your money where your mouth is and document it. Please excuse me if I won’t hold my breath.

          • hiernonymous

            McVeigh: Here’s a sample from his farewell letter to Steve Hodges: “I know in my heart that I am right in my struggle, Steve. I have come to peace with myself, my God and my cause. Blood will flow in the streets, Steve. Good vs. Evil. Free Men vs. Socialist Wannabe Slaves. Pray it is not your blood, my friend.”

            As for Rudolph, seriously? Here’s his manifesto, if you actually question that he was acting out of conservative religious principles: http://www.armyofgod.com/EricRudolphStatement.html

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Sorry, but your undocumented excerpt doesn’t prove that McVeigh is a conservative, and with respect to Rudolph, being a Christian fanatic and a political conservative are two very different and unique things.

          • hiernonymous

            Not sure what you mean by “undocumented;” when one offers a quote and the source of the quote, I’m not sure how much more specificity you need. If you’re concerned that I invented the quote, you can check here: http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a0794mcveighbloodflow#a0794mcveighbloodflow

            McVeigh’s position against gun control, against socialism, and in favor of smaller government, are typical conservative positions; if you’re aware of other opinions he expressed that make you think that labeling him ‘conservative’ is unfair, feel free to share them.

            As for Rudolph, being a Christian fanatic and political conservative may be different things, but they’re not mutually exclusive, and Rudolph’s position on the issue that dominated his thinking was typically conservative.

            It would be interesting to see you apply the same degree of skepticism to the characterizations of Lanza, Holmes, etc, above.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Epic fail.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Neither of those douchetards was a conservative. You lefties always try to use them as examples and fail. Next you’ll claim Hitler was a “right-winger.”

            Lefties and islamopithecines OWN mass shootings and bombings in America. Not a single conservative or Republican among them. Try again.

          • hiernonymous

            ‘Next you’ll claim Hitler was a “right-winger.”‘

            It would be odd to ‘claim’ anything else.

          • ziggy zoggy

            It is insane to claim a socialist was right-wing. Nutbucket.

          • hiernonymous

            The National Socialists were socialists like the German Democratic Republic was democratic. You need to go deeper than the name to understand the Nazis. Hitler was no socialist, and the socialist wing of the Nazi Party was crushed on the Night of the Long Knives.

          • hiernonymous
          • defcon 4

            Your proof doesn’t support the contention that CHristians calling for the execution of gays is widespread genius — unlike in islamic states where the execution of gays is state-sanctioned and goes UNOPPOSED.

          • hiernonymous

            Really? As far as I know, only three Muslim states carry a death penalty for homosexuality – Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen. Five Muslim countries expressly defend the legal right to be homosexual – Albania, Bahrain, Jordan, Turkey, and Mali. This suggests that your characterization is a bit distorted. Given that the same sort of thing happens in the Christian world – you didn’t think Uganda was Muslim, did you? – your point seems a bit off base.

          • defcon 4

            HOw many homosexuals have been put to death in Uganda again? HOw many homosexuals have even been arrested, charged and convicted of the crime of homosexuality in Uganda again? Your argument of false analogy is FAIL Ahmed.

          • hiernonymous

            “Your argument of false analogy is FAIL Ahmed.”

            Really? We have a Christian country pursuing the legal persecution of homosexuals, and you don’t recognize that this goes to the heart of the discussion of whether one religion is somehow less tolerant than the other? Interesting.

          • defcon 4

            “INteresting” allahtard? In which type of countries are homosexuals arrested, thrown in prison and executed again? You are the weakest link.

          • ziggy zoggy

            What Christian country would that be?

          • hiernonymous

            Scroll up and read the preceding couple of posts. Ask again if you’re still having trouble figuring it out.

          • ziggy zoggy

            What Christian country “pursues the persecution of homosexuals?”

          • hiernonymous

            Not the most perceptive reader, are you? The obvious reference was Uganda.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Regardless of what the laws are in some Muslim majority states, Sharia, which emanates directly from God according to Islam, calls for the death of all homosexuals among many other horrible and draconian things. Now, of course, several Muslim majority states ruled by dictators, as opposed to Sharia, in the Islamic world have made several unpopular concessions to appease the West, but in the long run Sharia must always win out since it is Allah’s law, which must never be superseded permanently by manmade law.

            Not to mention that even if some Muslim majority countries protect the rights of homosexual as you claim, nevertheless, a homosexual in any one of those countries would have to be extremely suicidal to be open about his or her homosexuality. Indeed, go to youtube and watch the videos of the dead bodies of homosexuals being dragged through the streets and hung on telephone poles by Muslim mobs in Hamastan and Judea and Samaria.

            Given that the same sort of thing happens in the Christian world – you didn’t think Uganda was Muslim, did you?

            No, but that manifestation takes place primarily in the Muslim no-go zones nonetheless.

          • hiernonymous

            Yes, because Matthew Shephard can tell us that we don’t suffer from the same prejudices, right?

            Your argument is specious; Christians insist that their own holy book is just as clear on the issue of homosexuality. The difference in laws is not a function of a difference in religions, but in the degree to which a given society has subordinated religion. And that, in turn, is often a function of the degree to which urban elites have successfully subordinated tribal conservatism.

            In fact, it’s heartwarming to see some self-professed conservatives on these forums touting their tolerance of homosexuality as a sign of their superiority over Muslims; it doesn’t seem that long ago that I was reading some pretty vicious screeds about how the Left was trying to destroy the fabric of America by getting rid of DOMA, etc. So, while the Islamophobic overtones are unwelcome, it’s good to see that some of the homophobia seems to be more universally recognized as unacceptable. There’s hope for us yet!

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Christians insist that their own holy book is just as clear on the issue of homosexuality.

            According to the unhinged leftwing Marxist garbage propaganda you were dumb enough to swallow, as again your ignorance’s have obviously been more than just a little exploited. By the way, of course, there isn’t a better way to learn about Christianity than from other unhinged and incredibly delusional leftwing Marxist like you. Yeah right.

            The difference in laws is not a function of a difference in religions, but in the degree to which a given society has subordinated religion.

            Again, more Marxist nonsense! Not to mention, moonbat, again that Islam is not a faith-based religion, but instead a very aggressive and destructive form of totalitarianism masquerading as being a religion to dupe its intended victims.

            And that, in turn, is often a function of the degree to which urban elites have successfully subordinated tribal conservatism.

            You are utterly hilarious. What a comedienne!

            So, while the Islamophobic overtones are unwelcome

            Islamophobia you moonbat is taqiyya, i.e., dissimulation, designed to camouflage and hide the true reality of Islam you gullible useful idiot. Indeed, you couldn’t have been rendered more ignorant of Islam and of Christianity as well. Poor you.

            There’s hope for us yet!

            No…there is no hope for you. You are past the point of no return. Indeed, it sucks to be you.

          • hiernonymous

            Taqiyya is a Shi’a doctrine, generally understood in the context of a Shi’a concealing his identity as such to a Sunni. It’s not clear what you mean by “Islamophobia is taqiyya.”

            “Again, more Marxist nonsense!”

            Marxist? No, the subordination of religion, in the governmental sense, began years before Marx, and is largely a product of the Enlightenment.

            “Islam is not a faith-based religion, but instead a very aggressive and destructive form of totalitarianism masquerading as being a religion to dupe its intended victims.”

            I suppose that to any True Believer of any religion, all others are “masquerading as being a religion to dupe its intended victims,” but it’s not clear how Islam is any different in this regard from any other religion, including Christianity.

            “You are utterly hilarious. What a comedienne!”

            That’s not a rebuttal.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Taqiyya is a Shi’a doctrine,

            Oh not this leftwing sh!t again! Like I keep telling you…garbage in equals garbage out!

            It’s not clear what you mean by “Islamophobia is taqiyya.”

            Of course, it isn’t and that is because you are a hopeless and extremely gullible useful idiot more than a little accustomed to having your ignorance’s exploited to the hilt.

            I suppose that to any True Believer of any religion, all others are “masquerading as being a religion to dupe its intended victims,

            Except for the obvious fact that you don’t have the first clue about what constitutes a faith-based religion, since everything you’ve learned about it has been comprised of leftwing Marxist propaganda. Not to mention that faith-based religions embody the freedom of conscience, while Islam, on the other hand, forbids the freedom of conscience under the penalty of death, as it is incredibly totalitarian. As a matter of fact, the only freedom that Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law, allows is the freedom for Muslims to become more devout slaves of Allah.

            but it’s not clear how Islam is any different in this regard from any other religion, including Christianity.

            Nothing is clear for you, since everything you’ve learned about faith-based religions and Islam as well has been leftwing Marxist garbage that you picked up from other leftwing Marxist morons. Hence, you are totally oblivious, which is why Marxists always get massacred by Muslims like the perpetual useful idiots they are, exactly like what happened subsequent to the 1979 Iranian Islamic Revolution and like would have inevitably eventually happened in Egypt as well had not the military ousted the Muslim Brotherhood from power.

            That’s not a rebuttal.

            Let me help you out. It’s a very sarcastic way of stating that you are a moron.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Taqiyya is a Shi’a doctrine,

            Oh not this leftwing crap again! Like I keep telling you…garbage in equals garbage out!

            It’s not clear what you mean by “Islamophobia is taqiyya.”

            Of course, it isn’t and that is because you are a hopeless and extremely gullible useful idiot more than a little accustomed to having your ignorance’s exploited to the hilt.

            I suppose that to any True Believer of any religion, all others are “masquerading as being a religion to dupe its intended victims,

            Except for the obvious fact that you don’t have the first clue about what constitutes a faith-based religion, since everything you’ve learned about it has been comprised of leftwing Marxist propaganda. Not to mention that faith-based religions embody the freedom of conscience, while Islam, on the other hand, forbids the freedom of conscience under the penalty of death, as it is incredibly totalitarian. As a matter of fact, the only freedom that Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law, allows is the freedom for Muslims to become more devout slaves of Allah.

            but it’s not clear how Islam is any different in this regard from any other religion, including Christianity.

            Nothing is clear for you, since everything you’ve learned about faith-based religions and Islam as well has been leftwing Marxist garbage that you picked up from other leftwing Marxist morons. Hence, you are totally oblivious, which is why Marxists always get massacred by Muslims like the perpetual useful idiots they are, exactly like what happened subsequent to the 1979 Iranian Islamic Revolution and like would have inevitably eventually happened in Egypt as well had not the military ousted the Muslim Brotherhood from power.

            That’s not a rebuttal.

            Let me help you out. It’s a very sarcastic way of stating that you are a moron.

          • hiernonymous

            “Let me help you out. It’s a very sarcastic way of stating that you are a moron.”

            Sure, I get that you’re trying to be sarcastic and insulting, but that’s posturing, not argument. When I say “that’s not a rebuttal,” what I mean is that you’re doing an awful lot of sneering, but not much in the way of actually articulating an argument and providing support.

            “Not to mention that faith-based religions embody the freedom of conscience, while Islam, on the other hand, forbids the freedom of conscience under the penalty of death, as it is incredibly totalitarian.”

            You apparently have not familiarized yourself with the Inquisition. I’m also curious to know what you make of the Albigensian Crusade in the context of your “faith-based religions”? Take your time.

          • defcon 4

            I don’t think you want to dredge up the Inquisition. Because in comparison to what your islam0nazi brethren were doing in the Indian sub-continent to Hindus and Buddhists, the Inquisition was nothing but a Sunday school picnic.

          • hiernonymous

            “I don’t think you want to dredge up the Inquisition. Because in comparison to what your islam0nazi brethren were doing in the Indian sub-continent to Hindus and Buddhists, the Inquisition was nothing but a Sunday school picnic.”

            Of course I want to dredge it up. Your attempt at deflection aside (“It’s okay if I beat my wife, because Smith over there beats his twice as hard!“), you’ve once again managed to read a post without comprehending its context. Both the Inquisition and the Albigensian Crusade were offered as counterexamples to OP’s contention that Christianity does not use coercion or force to keep its adherents in line.

          • ziggy zoggy

            The Spanish Inquisition did not force anybody to convert to Catholicism. You don’t know what you’re writing about. It is also a part of history and has no bearing on contemporary Christianity.

            Islam, on the other hand, has remained unchanged for 1400 years. It is still barbaric and totalitarian. In fact, it’s far more violent and depraved than Satanism.

            Who do you think you’re helping by trying to equate that death cult to Christianity? Gays? Atheists? Lefties? Dream on.

          • hiernonymous

            “The Spanish Inquisition did not force anybody to convert to Catholicism.
            You don’t know what you’re writing about.”

            Well, for starters, if you’re assuming that “Inquisition” = “Spanish Inquisition,” you should probably stop before you further embarrass yourself. One would think that the reference to the Albigensian Crusade would have tipped you off.

            The Inquisition began in France, and it began to combat heresy – in particular, the Cathar heresy. Clearly, you’re having trouble with both the history and with its application to this conversation – to the extent that this can be called a conversation – so let me help you out.

            We’ve had a poster insist that a key difference between Christianity and Islam is that Christians don’t impose their beliefs on others, and that Christians enjoy “freedom of conscience.” On the contrary, though, the Inquisition was established to find and eradicate beliefs within the Christian community at odds with the doctrine of the Church.

            That said, when the Cathar heresy was not eradicated by the Inquisition, and the Pope eventually called for a Crusade – not against the Muslims, but against Frenchmen whose Christian beliefs had been declared heretical in 1176 by a church council. The campaigns lasted a couple of decades, and included the massacre of the residents of Beziers, some 15-20 thousand dead.

            So clearly, Christianity has undertaken very strict action, up to and including large-scale violence, to suppress heresy – which is precisely the sort of action OYM and D4 have been insisting is unique to Islam.

            “The Spanish Inquisition did not force anybody to convert to Catholicism.”

            No, that was a result of two royal decrees by Ferdinand and Isabella, requiring Jews and Muslims to convert to Christianity or to quit the kingdoms. The Spanish Inquisition was also an initiative of Ferdinand and Isabella (unlike the Inquisition, which was directed by the Church in Rome), and began as the result of reports to the Queen that many Jews had converted publicly but were secretly still practicing Judaism.

            In short, you are technically correct when you say that the Spanish Inquisition was not intended for force conversions – and nobody in this thread, as far as I can see, said that it was – but it was intended to ensure that the forced conversions required by the same monarchs were legitimate. After the Brotherhood Revolts in Valencia, large numbers of Muslims were also forcibly baptized, and the Spanish Inquisition eventually turned its attention to ensuring that those conversions also were enforced.

            Bottom Line: I offered the example of the Inquisition and the Albigensian Crusade as an example of Christianity forcibly combating heresy, and you responded with a vigorous defense of the wrong historical event – and with an incomplete and misleading characterization of that event.

            “Islam, on the other hand, has remained unchanged for 1400 years.”

            Well, no, it hasn’t. Over the course of the years, there have been many, many developments and offshoots. There are Twelvers, Ismailis, Zayidis, Sufis of all sorts; there are followers of The Bab, there are the Baha’i, the Alawi, the Khawarij. Islam is as rich and diverse in various practices as Christianity. So much so, that much as the Christian fundamentalists of the turn of the last century turned to Biblical literalism and a back-to-basics approach as a way of dealing with the complexities of industrial, urban culture, today we have Salafis who react very strongly against years of “innovation,” and insist on going back to basics – in their case, the Qur’an, the example of the Rashidun, the Hadith, and discarding a millennium of change and adaptation.

            “Who do you think you’re helping by trying to equate that death cult to Christianity? Gays? Atheists? Lefties? Dream on.”

            I’m trying to help you understand that “Us vs Them” is a child’s oversimplification of the world, and simply contributes to misunderstanding and violence. The impulse to hatred and violence is human, not Muslim, and as long as you persuade yourself that “your team” is somehow immune to those human impulses, you will spend your time trying to improve everyone but yourself.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Everything you pasted supports the fact that Christianity has never been compulsory or genocidal.

            Your claim that Islam has changed over the years is false. The Koran is the indisputable law for islamopithecines. They aren’t allowed to question it in any way.

          • defcon 4

            The Inquisition, in total, murdered maybe a thousand people. Timurlane, your great, psychopathic muslime nutjob killed Hindus in the tens of thousands and enslaved hundreds of thousands more.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You’re projecting. You have offered no evidence to back up your fanciful claims.

            Islam absolutely is compulsory – like Marxism – and Christianity absolutely is not.

            I suggest YOU familiarize YOURSELF with the Spanish Inquisition. It was nothing like its horrific and utterly false reputation. All the alleged horrors attributed to it are based on the libel of a Protestant liar who wrote a screed to denounce Catholicism. Not that you have read a single historical record on the subject – records that the Catholic Church has preserved for centuries.

          • hiernonymous

            I suggest YOU familiarize YOURSELF with my post a bit better before ranting. Who said anything about “the Spanish Inquisition?”

            “Not that you have read a single historical record on the subject”

            Interesting. I said nothing at all about the Spanish Inquisition, a historical event separate from the Inquisition. On what basis do you conclude that I have not read a single historical record on the subject? I’m genuinely curious – do you have a single rational basis for your comment?

          • ziggy zoggy

            None of your pettifoggery can obscure the fact that Islam is a genocidal cult and Christianity is not.

          • hiernonymous

            Translation: “My grasp of the topic is so poor that I can’t tell the Inquisition from the Spanish Inquisition, but, well, I just know I’m still right!”

          • ziggy zoggy

            Taqiyah is practiced by all islamopithecines. OYM is right. You need to stop getting your misinformation about Islam, Christianity and everything else from extreme left websites.

            The Constitution does not proscribe a subordination of religion. Marxism is the basis of leftism and is responsible for the persecution of Christianity in America. Luckily, 80% of us are Christians and we won’t knuckle under.

            Again, there is absolutely no equivalence between Islam and Christianity. Islam is a cult designed for conquest and subjugation. Only 20% of the unholy Koran even pretends to deal with religion.

            Why do you insist on writing such nonsense? Somewhere inside you must know or suspect that you’re fooling yourself. You sure aren’t fooling anybody else.

          • hiernonymous

            “You need to stop getting your misinformation about Islam, Christianity and everything else from extreme left websites.”

            I got my information on Islam from the Naval Postgraduate School, from living in the Middle East, and from serving as an intelligence officer with a focus on the Middle East. If the primary source of your opinions is any internet source, you should probably do more reading and traveling and less gasbagging.

            “The Constitution does not proscribe a subordination of religion.”

            I think the word you’re looking for is “prescribe.” The Enlightenment involved looking to reason, rather than revelation, as the source of our laws. When I refer to the subordination of religion, I’m not talking about government control of religion, I’m talking about the displacement of religion as the basis and source of our laws.

            “Marxism is the basis of leftism and is responsible for the persecution of Christianity in America. Luckily, 80% of us are Christians and we won’t knuckle under.”

            80% of us are being persecuted? Sounds like paranoia to me.

            “Why do you insist on writing such nonsense?”

            Because I spent years of hard work actually learning what I’m talking about when it comes to the Middle East, and I see no reason that all of the public commentary should be made by parrots who repeat the nonsense found on websites of whatever bias. You seem to fancy yourself as well-informed on the Middle East; I’m trying to help you achieve the reality of being well-informed, a little at a time.

          • defcon 4

            Equating Christianity in the 21st century is a fallacy of argumentation called an argument of false equivalence. There is no comparison fool. Over a million people have been slaughtered in the name of islam in the 21st century by muslimes, in the name of your death cult and the slaughter hasn’t ceased. The only states which practice legalized slavery in the 21st century are muslime. Go suck some camel urine Hajji — direct from the source.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Naval postgraduate school, the “Middle” East and an intelligence officer? Do you really expect anybody to believe that?

            I get my knowledge of unholy Islam from the Koran, hadiths and duras. And fro m historical sources and contemporary experts like Bernard Lewis and Robert Spencer. I lived in the world’s mostopulous Islamic country for three years. I did not live on a military base, government compound or green zone. I lived with the animals. I had to pretend to convert to islame to marry my wife. I figure I’ve forgotten more about Islam than you will ever learn.

            “Prescribe.” Haha. Typos are hilarious. Moron. The Constitution is the law of America, not the European Enlightenment – which did not reject Christianity in any way.

            Christianity is absolutely under assault by leftists in America. 80% of Americans absolutely are Christian. Disputing facts is a waste of time.

            I would ask again why you insist on writing nonsense and what you hope to achieve but I already know. You are promoting your death cult.

            When did you convert to Islam? During your stay in the “Middle” East? You are an islamopithecine. That is why you stalk me. I am the most effective critic of Islam on this website.

            WHEN DID YOU CONVERT?

          • hiernonymous

            “Naval postgraduate school, the “Middle” East and an intelligence officer? Do you really expect anybody to believe that?”

            I’m not too concerned with what you decide to believe. You speculated on the source of my knowledge; I let you know something about it; what you choose to do with the information is immaterial.

            “I had to pretend to convert to islame to marry my wife.”

            Ah. You lied, in other words. If you’re that dishonest in your own dealings, I suppose I shouldn’t take offense that you assume others hold themselves to your same low standards.

            “I figure I’ve forgotten more about Islam than you will ever learn.”

            No doubt you figure that on many topics, though your commentary doesn’t keep pace with your inflated self-assessment.

            “The Constitution is the law of America, not the European Enlightenment – which did not reject Christianity in any way.”

            If you don’t understand the connection between the Enlightenment and the Constitution, are you sure you should be offering public opinions? And who said the Enlightenment rejected Christianity? The Enlightenment rejected revelation as the source of political legitimacy and secular authority. Ethics and laws were to be determined through reason, not through conversations with burning bushes. The point, of course, is that the degree to which Western lands behave in a more, well, enlightened fashion than most Muslim countries has nothing whatever to do with the superiority of Christianity as a religion, and everything to do with the degree to which Christianity has lost its seat at the table of authority.

            “I am the most effective critic of Islam on this website.”

            That could be perfectly true, without implying that you are an effective critic of Islam. Hint: repetition of fatuous portmanteau and insults may make for satisfying posturing, but it’s not effective criticism.

            “When did you convert to Islam?”

            The day after you stopped beating your wife.

            “You are an islamopithecine.”

            Until you define the term, it’s hard to say whether I am or not.

            “WHEN DID YOU CONVERT?”

            To what? Can you even say it?

          • Drakken

            Ah yes, naval intelligence, an oxymoron if there ever was, all brains but can’t connect the dots or read a map to save their lives. Obviously at the postgrad school you attended, you had the islam is peace PC agenda pushed on you and while you were in the ME, you sat on major base never quite getting outside the wire and we are supposed to listen to your PC words of islamophobia and completely wrong analysis? You have some balls on you Mr Naval Intelligence. I have been in the ME, far east and Africa for over 20 years, and the one thing I can always count on is the muslims no matter the stripe can never ever be trusted nor can you turn your back on them because, they will, given a chance, stick a knife in it. As a PMC now, the various NGO’s ad govt agencies can’t do their jobs because the savages will kidnap and kill them. I hope to God you are not running anything to do with the ME or your going to have a lot of dead bodies on your hands, if you worked for me you would be fired.

          • hiernonymous

            Eh, wrong on pretty much all accounts. I attended NPS; I wasn’t Navy. Time I spent in the ME wasn’t sitting on a major base. Nice attempt at pigeonholing, but no.

            “I have been in the ME, far east and Africa for over 20 years, and the one thing I can always count on is the muslims no matter the stripe can never ever be trusted nor can you turn your back on them because, they will, given a chance, stick a knife in it.”

            They say that the only constant in all your dysfunctional relationships is you. If you couldn’t find anyone to trust in 20 years, you might consider the possibility that you might be part of the problem. I was on my own in some places that didn’t see Westerners very often, and never had a problem. Not once.

            “…if you worked for me you would be fired.”

            I don’t think you could afford me.

          • Drakken

            I will bet my next paycheck that you never went outside wire in Iraq or Afghanistan by yourself dressed as an American and dressed down in full haji mufti. As for affording you? Not bloody likely. As a former Marine I got my nasty lesson on muslim warfare via Beirut in 83 and the sand apes missed me by a couple minutes, as a PMC today, that is why I don’t lose people to idiotic PC rules of engagement. The bridge in Faluhja taught me that.

          • hiernonymous

            Your point isn’t really clear; were you discussing how Muslims live, act, and think, or how people in combat zones do so? I’ve spent time in both environments.

            “As for affording you? Not bloody likely.”

            We agree, then.

            “The bridge in Faluhja taught me that.”

            Taught you what? That if you invade a country, the locals might be a bit ornery? That mercenaries working for a firm that send out undermanned teams who haven’t trained together are likely to get their clocks cleaned? What does any of that have to do with proving that Muslims can’t be trusted?

            If you consider rules of engagement idiotic, I can see why you might have trouble establishing any sort of real relationship with the locals, though it’s hard to understand why you complain that you can’t trust them. Clearly, they can’t trust you. You do realize that trust is a reciprocal relationship?

          • Drakken

            There is no reciprocity in a muslim country, you can rent them for awhile but they always want more bakesh.
            One of those that died that day was a friend of mine and they were transporting gear and equipment, not on mission and it was one of you fine intelligence oifers who said things were all good and nothing to worry about, a clusterf*** ensued when they got surrounded by the locals and slaughtered, we didn’t have didn’t hesitate to unload into them after that.
            Sorry but a PMC wouldn’t take someone like you who went native. It’s bad for business.

          • hiernonymous

            “Sorry but a PMC wouldn’t take someone like you who went native. It’s bad for business.”

            Then your budget is safe. Win-win.

          • Drakken

            Oh the ones we did trust were from the Christian minority.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Your argument is specious. There is no Christian doctrine or practice of persecuting gays, much less murdering them. Unlike Islam. American law has always stemmed from British common law and both are based on Christianity. Always have been. Urban elites (not an appellation to be proud of) are responsible for tribalism/identity politics. The notion that they protect people from conservatives and Christians is asinine.

            Conservatives want gays to be protected from islamopithecines. Lefties want islamopithecines to run wild. Pretending that conservatives are the bigots and lefties are tolerant protectors of all things gay is disingenuous.

            What are you trying to accomplish with these dishonest comments? Really? Why don’t you write something productive?

          • hiernonymous

            “Your argument is specious. There is no Christian doctrine or practice of persecuting gays, much less murdering them.”

            Leviticus 20:13
            If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

            “Urban elites (not an appellation to be proud of) are responsible for tribalism/identity politics. The notion that they protect people from conservatives and Christians is asinine.”

            The history of civilization is largely a history of urbanization and of conflict between centralizing and decentralizing power centers. Whether you’re talking about the establishment of the French monarchy, or the struggle between the Kabul government and tribal elders, the rural decentralizing elements tend to be highly conservative – not in the sense of Boehner vs Pelosi, but in the normal sense of the word – those who resist change to their culture, those who most tightly protect the status quo. On what basis would you suggest that such a basic observation is “asinine?”

            “Conservatives want gays to be protected from islamopithecines.”

            Do you mean conservative people around the world, or are you simply talking about your team in the U.S. political football league?

            “Lefties want islamopithecines to run wild.”

            What’s your basis for this statement? Your source?

            And, just out of curiosity, this portmanteau you’re so proud of – islamopithecine – what does it mean? Is it supposed to display wit or erudition?

            “Pretending that conservatives are the bigots and lefties are tolerant protectors of all things gay is disingenuous.”

            Good thing nobody seems to be pretending any such thing, then. I would argue that you are undeniably displaying bigotry on a regular basis – unless I’m badly misunderstanding your pet name for Muslims.

            “What are you trying to accomplish with these dishonest comments? Really? Why don’t you write something productive?”

            I’m hoping that, as you come to realize that posturing is no substitute for learning, and that as you come up empty when you try to actually articulate your ‘arguments,’ you’ll rethink your bigotry.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Are you a masochist? You know you’re beaten but you ask for more.

            I’ve already demolished your Leviticus quote – which has no bearing on Christianity.

            Urban elites (left-wing scum) are absolutely responsible for identity politics and class warfare in the West. The history of civilization has ALWAYS centered around farming. It is what keeps humanity alive. Urban areas have always been parasitic.

            Conservatives around the world want to protect EVERYBODY from islamopithecines. Lefty fellow travelers aid islamopithecines against humanity every chance they get. They are the €unt$ who came up with the ridiculous and false term “islamophobia.”

            You claim to not accuse conservatives of bigotry and then call me a bigot in the next paragraph. Good job. Very consistent. Lefties think gays belong to their tribe and use them as a weapon.

            So what ARE you trying to accomplish? Your ideology has been exposed as false and your arguments are equally false.

          • hiernonymous

            “Are you a masochist?”

            I’d have to admit to a bit of that, though probably not for the reasons you tell yourself.

            “The history of civilization has ALWAYS centered around farming. It is what keeps humanity alive. Urban areas have always been parasitic.”

            You rather miss the point. More effective farming produces the food surpluses that allow cities to grow, and it is there that the business of civilization: the arts and sciences, research, philosophy, the things that actually distinguish us as humans, are nurtured and grown.

            Heck, the word “civilization” comes from a Latin term rooted in the word for “city-state.”

            “You claim to not accuse conservatives of bigotry and then call me a bigot in the next paragraph. Good job. Very consistent.”

            There’s nothing inconsistent about it. I don’t accuse you of bigotry because you are a conservative; I accuse you of bigotry because you display bigotry. So far in our conversations, you haven’t even been able to bring yourself to use the term “muslim,” preferring a puerile portmanteau that appears to imply that Muslims are less than human; it would be difficult to find a reason not to accuse you of bigotry.

            “You know you’re beaten but you ask for more.”

            If you need to tell the other fellow he has lost an argument, chances are he hasn’t.

          • defcon 4

            Hey allahtard, when was the last time anyone Jewish killed anyone for being gay? Much less anyone Christian?

          • hiernonymous

            You tell me. At least 21 gays have been murdered in the U.S. in the past 2 years; I doubt that many were killed by Muslims. Most recent case I know of was Mark Carson, killed by Elliot Morales, who followed Carson and his boyfriend down the street shouting anti-gay slurs before shooting him this past May. If Morales were Muslim, I imagine it’d have been mentioned in one of the many stories about the crime.

          • ziggy zoggy

            D4 wrote that the execution of gays is sanctioned in Islamic countries. That is indisputably true no matter how many Islamic countries do it or don’t. It’s a moot point and deliberate distraction on your point because gays are murdered in all Islamic countries with or without state sanction. On fact, they murder gays wherever they live. Some heroes you have there. You defend islamopithecines out of one side of your mouth and decry the persecution of gays out of the other. Equating Christians with islamopithecines is old and tired Christianity does not persecute anybody.

            And yes, all the anti-gay violence in Uganda is Muslim.

          • hiernonymous

            “That is indisputably true no matter how many Islamic countries do it or don’t.”
            Wrong – when you or others write about what “Muslim countries” do, as if they did so uniformly or as a rule, it’s germane to point out that of the many Muslim countries, only three actually have the laws you describe.

            “It’s a moot point and deliberate distraction on your point because gays are murdered in all Islamic countries with or without state sanction.”

            Okay, now you’re changing the story, but that’s okay. Gays are murdered right here in the United States without state sanction, too.

            “You defend islamopithecines out of one side of your mouth and decry the persecution of gays out of the other.”

            Denouncing xenophobia and prejudice in whatever form it takes is not self-contradictory.

            “Equating Christians with islamopithecines is old and tired”

            Neither old nor tired equals “wrong,” which is what I’m more concerned with.

            “And yes, all the anti-gay violence in Uganda is Muslim.”

            Perhaps in the Uganda of Planet Zog, but not on Planet Earth. In fact, one Ugandan had described the proposed legislation as a “Christmas present,” unusual language for Muslims.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Either islamopithecine countries sanction the murder of gays or they don’t.

            Nobody in America murders gays for the sake of their “religion.” (Islam.)

            Defending xenophobic, prejudicial and gay murdering islamithecines when you claim to be a moral paragon and champion of gays is self contradictory.

            Still no equation of peace loving Christians and genocidal islamopithecines.

            Tell Idi Amin and his successors how Ugandan violence is Christian.

            Most stalkers are more honest than you.

          • hiernonymous

            “Tell Idi Amin and his successors how Ugandan violence is Christian.”

            That’d be some trick, since he died a decade ago. More to the point, he was driven out of Uganda in 1979; I don’t think he had much to do with Uganda’s homosexuality legislation. As Muslims make up only 12% of Uganda’s population, it’d be some trick to lay the legislation at their feet, too.

            If you want to broaden the discussion to “Ugandan violence,” then you need to bring the Lord’s Resistance Army into the picture – a Christian and extremely violent group with the goal of establishing a theocratic state based on the 10 Commandments.

            “Nobody in America murders gays for the sake of their “religion.” ”

            No? The Williams brothers murdered Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder, citing their religion as the reason. When Ronald Gay shot up a gay bar in Roanoke, Virginia, killing one and wounding six, he said he was a “Christian Soldier working for my Lord.”

            “Either islamopithecine countries sanction the murder of gays or they don’t.”

            If you mean they all do or none do, that’s obviously nonsense. Three have death penalties on the books; the rest do not.

          • defcon 4

            The “Christian” murder of gays isn’t state sanctioned — unlike in your islam0nazi states Ahmed, where it’s either state sanctioned or the perpetration of such crimes goes UNPUNISHED.

          • hiernonymous

            It’s not state-sanctioned in the vast majority of Muslim states, either.

            What you are desperately trying to paint as a Muslim-Christian divide is more accurately viewed as an urban-rural or liberal-conservative divide. The more rural, conservative, and tribal a given place is, the more likely it is that the population there will be intolerant of departures from social norms.

            I think that you’ll find our own history is replete with murders that went unpunished; you might want to look, for example, at the history of the lynching of black Americans earlier in the 1900s. You might also find it instructive to review a list of violent crimes against gays in the United States, and consider the amount and kind of effort it has taken for the gay community to see that our own such crimes do not go UNPUNISHED.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Far more Whites were lynched than Blacks, most Blacks were lynched by other Blacks and most lynchings were justified because the subjects were overwhelmingly guilty.

            Unlike Islam, that murders the innocent on a daily basis.

          • defcon 4

            The Lord’s Resistance Army is an army resisting islam0nazis trying to slaughter ALL the Christians in N. Africa — as the Janjaweed militia has done in the Sudan.

          • ziggy zoggy

            No Christians in Uganda want to murder gays. All the islamopithecines do, even though they are all turd burgling @$$ bandits.

            Christianity does not sanction the murder of gays, so your fake stories about fake Christians are nothing but cheap calumny.

            All islamopithecine countries sanction the murder of gays. Obviously, because they all do it. If you could name an islamopithecine country that doesn’t persecute gays you would have a point, but you can’t and you don’t.

          • hiernonymous

            “All the islamopithecines do, even though they are all turd burgling @$$ bandits.”

            This is what constitutes the most effective criticsm of Islam on this web site, is it?

            “Christianity does not sanction the murder of gays, so your fake stories about fake Christians are nothing but cheap calumny.”

            You might want to familiarize yourself with the ideas of circular logic and begging the question.

          • Drakken

            The Lords resistance Army is pretty defunct since their leader was captured, by Army SF by the way.

          • defcon 4

            Gee, I don’t notice any gay pride parades being held in any of your various islam0nazi snake pits Hajji. I don’t even notice the existence of any LGBT organizations. You can pile it deeper and higher, but the facts don’t fit the reality Hajji.

          • defcon 4

            When was the LAST time ANYONE Christian or Jewish put a homosexual to death? When was the last time a muslime state actually did so? THIS YEAR.

          • defcon 4

            Touche. However, Yeshua himself, never advocated for, nor took part in the murder or execution of anyone, unlike Muhamad who ordered the murder of homosexuals.

          • DontMessWithAmerica

            You are simply a pathetic moron, Barbara.

          • Jenanne Johnson

            Barbara please for the sake of your daughters and your grandchildren READ the Qur’an!!!! Then decide if this is what you really want to defend.. I can put you in touch with organizations that help get women out of Islam by changing their names so that they are not killed, when have you heard of a mass group of Christians, Baptists, Buddhists etc having to do the same when changing religion? In the last three years?

        • iluvisrael

          Christians with those views are marginalized and shunned. The muslims with those views are mainstream and numerous. Do a little research about how gays are treated in iran and the palestinian territories. Maybe you’ll learn something.

          • Barbara D

            “Christians with those views are marginalized and shunned.” I wouldn’t call being elected to Congress, or having your own radio show where millions listen, marginalized and shunned.

          • defcon 4

            Which Christian was elected to Congress and advocated the murder of gays? Which Christian has a radio show and advocated for the murder of gays?

          • ziggy zoggy

            There is no Congressman or radio host calling for the murder of gays, you $hit eating liar. (Is there any other kind of leftist?) meanwhile, islamopithecines preach the murder of gays from every mosque, radio station, TV station, newspaper and magazine that they can. And they carry those murders out. You ignore this because you are a contemptible little scum hole who hates her own culture.

            Leftism really is a mental disorder. Skank.

          • hiernonymous

            “There is no Congressman or radio host calling for the murder of gays, you $hit eating liar.”

            http://radio.foxnews.com/2013/09/05/christian-radio-host-gay-couples-should-be-put-to-death/

          • ziggy zoggy

            Kevin Swanson is not a radio host or a Christian. He is a nut bag who broadcasts his own bile to an audience that consists of Christian hating journalists and no fans. He has no congregation and does NOT work for a Christian broadcasting company.

            Not that anomalies like him have anything to do with organized Christian religion. Not in doctrine and not in practice.

            Islam on the other hand………….

          • hiernonymous

            It’s more than a bit disingenuous to simply define away all uncomfortable examples as “not Christian.”

            As for doctrine, you must not have taken a close look at your Bible recently.

          • defcon 4

            You’re the liar who introduced him as a radio host. Not as a radio host on his own short wave radio station run out of his garage.

          • hiernonymous

            You seem to be confusing yourself. In your first sentence, you accuse me of being a liar for supporting him as an example of a radio host, and in your very next sentence, you acknowledge that he broadcasts on the radio.

            If you follow my link, FOX News characterizes him as a radio host, and while FOX News may have its political biases, it certainly knows a thing or two about the media.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Who does he host? What guests does he have? Who listens to anything he says besides ant-Christian scum? Who says he is still on the air?

          • defcon 4

            Fox radio news quotes a source that has no reliability whatsoever for its story.

          • hiernonymous

            How do you reach that conclusion? The story is consistent with the other available evidence – Swanson’s own website, the audio of the broadcast – so on what basis do you simply dismiss the source?

          • hiernonymous

            You might also want to do some homework before leveling accusations of dishonesty – it might make others less likely to view your own mistakes as intentional. From Swanson’s web site:

            Beginnings

            Generations with Kevin Swanson aired for the first time on October 4, 2003 on KZNT, an AM station in Colorado Springs, Colorado, as a weekend program. We quickly added a second station, another AM station in Denver – 50,000 watt KLT. Our first program featured a speech by Mike Smith, President of Home School Legal Defense Association. From the beginning the staff included Dave Buehner as producer and Kevin Swanson as host.

            On January 1, 2005, Generations began airing on a daily basis on KGFT (FM 100.5) in Colorado Springs and KLT (AM 670) in Denver. In February of 2006 we secured a morning drive time schedule of 8:30 am for the program on KLT (AM 670), and during the following month added a weekend program on the Faith and Freedom Network, based in Iowa. Requests for tapes or downloads for the program during the first year totalled about 300. By the third year of the broadcast, tape requests and digital downloads increased to about 55,000.

            Thanks to the enthusiastic reception of the program on the worldwide web, it wasn’t long before the on-line listener base exceeded the terrestrial AM/FM listenership. So in January of 2010, the board of
            Generations decided to discontinue buying time on AM and FM stations. By June of 2011, our total downloads broke the 1,000,000 mark, with over 100 countries listening on a monthly basis.

            Hardly a garage shortwave operation.

          • defcon 4

            Is he still on the air today? BTW, what is your source? Because after the ambiguous nature of your first source I question the validity of this one.

          • hiernonymous

            The source is his own web site: https://generationswithvision.com/about/

          • defcon 4

            I’m sorry I don’t believe your source, try again allahtard.

          • hiernonymous

            Here’s a better idea: you’ve been presented with a reputable mainstream news outlet, and the website of the broadcaster in question. If you have credible information that suggests either or both are misleading or untrue, provide your source.

            On the other hand, if you are in the habit of announcing “I don’t believe it” when confronted with information that’s inconvenient to your viewpoint, that’s your problem.

          • defcon 4

            Your reputable source quoted nothing but garbage from a source without merit. The MSM in the US can no longer be trusted.

          • hiernonymous

            Again, your declaration that a source is “garbage” does not make it so. Are you contending that the source made an error in characterizing Mr. Swanson’s radio program, or an error in reporting the content of his broadcast? What information do you have to the contrary? Where did you get it? Revelation? Intuition? You “just know?”

          • Drakken

            Swanson is an exception and runs his suck, doesn’t kill anyone, the same loons at westboro, don’t kill anyone either, unlike the sermons coming out of the mosque in this country alone much less the ones overseas which extoll the faithful to kill the infidel.

          • hiernonymous

            “Swanson is an exception…”

            It always is, isn’t it? Except when it’s the folks we hate, then it’s the norm. Meh.

          • Drakken

            Until they fly airliners into buildings, kill one of their daughters as an honor killing, or numerous other Islamic behavior, then I will look at them in the same light, until then islam no matter the stripe is incompatible with western civilization.

          • hiernonymous

            I see. Western civilization doesn’t go around knocking buildings down; it’s daughters don’t get abused or killed; it’s a sort of bastion of peace and rationality in an otherwise violent world – that pretty much sum it up?

          • Drakken

            There is no moral equivalency between islam and western civilization period, your either with western civilization or your against it and side with your arab/muslim “friends”. Choose wisely.

          • hiernonymous

            “…your either with western civilization or your against it…”

            Your thinking is as bad as your grammar. I’m neither “with” nor “against” Western Civilization; I’m part of it, and bear a responsibility for making sure that it’s as good as it can be, rather than trying justify its excesses and crimes by pointing to others who also do bad things. “Everyone else does it” or “he’s doing something worse” stopped being an acceptable ethical position somewhere around middle school.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Reputable? A bad reputation is nothing to brag about. It’s called infamy.

            You have no problem denying facts that are inconvenient to your groupthink, so that’s your problem, really.

          • ziggy zoggy

            He only people who visit his websites are anti-Christian dolts like you.

          • ziggy zoggy

            And Swanson is a reliable source how? And he represents Christianity how? And the gay killing death cult of Islam is equivalent how?

          • ObamaYoMoma

            As for doctrine, you must not have taken a close look at your Bible recently.

            Uhm…Muslims claim the Koran, in stark contrast to the bible and all other holy books, is the direct verbatim testimony of Allah as dictated to Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel and as such is divine and immutable. This is also the main reason why the sole fundamental purpose of Islam is the subjugation into Islamic totalitarianism of all religions and all infidels through violent and non-violent jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

            The bible, on the other hand, does not claim to emanate directly from God and is largely very allegorical.

            .

          • hiernonymous

            Yes, the Qur’an is supposed to be the Word of God. Muslims believe God manifested himself in the Qur’an; Christians believe he manifested himself in the person of Jesus. In practice, this difference is marginal, in both directions. One would think that Christians would be pretty relaxed about the Bible, as it is simply supposed to be “inspired” by, rather than dictated by, God, but Christians tend to take it rather more seriously than that, and not all Christians would agree with your characterization of the Bible as “largely very allegorical.” On the other hand, one would think that Muslims would be a bit less testy than Christians about disrespect to their prophet, since Christians believe Jesus was God, but Muslims acknowledge that Muhammad was just a man; but it doesn’t really work that way, either, and insulting the prophet can get some pretty violent reactions. (Lest you think that’s a uniquely Muslim characteristic, try insulting Mary in Latin America and count your teeth before and after.)

            Sorry – both religions have plenty of intolerance to go around, and both have and continue to refer to those scriptures to either pass or to attempt to pass laws that reinforce the prejudices of the believers. The Christian Bible may be ‘very largely allegorical,’ but the Blue Laws were not; nor is the UCMJ prohibition against sodomy; nor was DOMA.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            In practice, this difference is marginal, in both directions.

            Yeah right, of course…and you learned this from other unhinged leftwing Marxist just as delusional as yourself.

            On the other hand, one would think that Muslims would be a bit less testy than Christians about disrespect to their prophet, since Christians believe Jesus was God, but Muslims acknowledge that Muhammad was just a man;

            Like all Marxist totalitarians, you are totally obsessed with denigrating Christianity and morally equating it with Islam, even though again, Islam isn’t even a faith-based religion you moron, but instead a very aggressive and destructive form of totalitarianism. Moreover, you don’t have the first clue about Christianity as well. Indeed, all you know about it is the absurd and idiotic garbage you were dumb enough to swallow like a loon. Which means you know nothing!

            Sorry – both religions have plenty of intolerance to go around,

            Moral absolutes aren’t intolerance you moron. Like I said, seek mental help for your severe mental problems with delusions, although I feel like you are too far-gone to be helped.

            refer to those scriptures to either pass or to attempt to pass laws that reinforce the prejudices of the believers.

            Muslims pass laws? Dude, Sharia emanates directly from Allah (God), therefore it is supreme to all manmade laws since Allah (God) is infallible. Like I said, your ignorance’s have been exploited to the hilt! But you are nonetheless exceedingly hilarious and more than a little unhinged.

          • hiernonymous

            “Yeah right, of course…and you learned this from other unhinged leftwing Marxist just as delusional as yourself.”

            Well, no, I learned this while living in the Middle East.

            “Like all Marxist totalitarians, you are totally obsessed with denigrating Christianity…”

            It’s not clear what I’ve written that you see as “denigrating Christianity.” You apparently are uncomfortable with having your logical standards applied evenly, but that’s a different matter.

            “Moreover, you don’t have the first clue about Christianity as well. Indeed, all you know about it is the absurd and idiotic garbage you were dumb enough to swallow like a loon. Which means you know nothing!”

            If there’s something I’ve said that is incorrect, feel free to point it out, but simply insisting that someone is wrong doesn’t make them – or show them to be – wrong.

            “…although I feel like you are too far-gone to be helped.”

            Is there something about your background that lends value to what you “feel?”

            “Muslims pass laws? Dude, Sharia emanates directly from Allah…”

            Yes, Muslims pass laws. You seem to have a very incomplete notion of jurisprudence in Muslim lands. First, Sharia does not “emanate directly from Allah.” Sharia is a code of conduct, or a set of rules of behavior, that is based on several sources: the Qur’an (which Muslims believe was provided directly by God), and by the example of the Prophet as established in the tradition, or sunnah. As circumstances arise that have not previously been dealt with, Muslim scholars (the ‘ulema) interpret sharia.

            In most Muslim countries, Sharia coexists with secular law. Sharia applies to issues of personal status for Muslims, while secular law governs most criminal code and governmental functions. There are a few countries that are governed entirely or largely by sharia – such as Saudi Arabia – but that is the exception, rather than the rule. So, yes, Muslims pass laws. It’s remarkable that you did not know that, given your readiness to call others ‘ignorant.’

            “Like I said, your ignorance’s have been exploited to the hilt!”

            My ignorance’s what have been exploited to the hilt?

          • ziggy zoggy

            You lived in the “Middle” East? (Iran, Afghanistan and the other Stans.) were you a sex slave? No wonder you don’t know anything about religion or Islam.

            Attempting to equate benevolent Christianity with the death cult of Islam is a denigration and you know it.

            Sharia is not a “code of conduct.” Codes of conduct are not compulsory and they are meant to improve behavior, not suppress free will. The only reason Islamic countries have “secular” laws is because primitive sharia is unable to deal eith the intricacies of human interaction. Little http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=White-Headed+Capuchin&Form=IRTRRL#view=detail&id=E33CDCC92BDB0FA2E5184F24ABB04A306C52E0FA was not a man of vision like the Founding Fathers. The unholy Koran cannot address unprecedented events the way the Constitution does. It can’t even address the stone aged societal issues it was written for. It is a recruitment and training manual for conquest. Nothing more. Sharia is a joke. If dune coons like ill’ Mo knew anything about governance, the Islamic world wouldn’t be such a $hithole. But Arabs and their degenerate kin have never been capable of maintaining a society.

            Your ignorances have been exploited to the hilt. Focus on content and not typos.

          • defcon 4

            WHich muslime states allow freedom of religion Hajji? Which muslime states don’t persecute people of other faiths? Which muslime states don’t proscribe punishment for heresy and blasphemy?

          • hiernonymous

            Who is Hajji? Did you mean to address this to someone else, or is your Tourette’s getting the better of you again?

          • ziggy zoggy

            The difference between a death cult and a God who manifested himself in the flesh to offer eternal life to all the repentant is not marginal. It is incalculably wide. Not that a soulless Marxist like you believes in anything but nihilism anyhow.

            Once again, there is no equivalence between Christianity and Islam. Christianity is based on tolerance and Islam is the opposite. The only real equivalency is between Islam and leftism. Both are totalitarian, both are destructive and both are inimical to humanity.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Swanson is not an example of Christianity.

            I read the Bible and understand it. I do not read select passages on left-wing websites that mock it without understanding it. Christianity does not call for the murder of gays like Islam does. I don’t care how many di€ks you suck. No Christian will kill you for it but an islamopithecine will if it gets the chance.

            You are defaming a religion you don’t understand (Christianity) and defending a vile cult (Islam) that you likewise don’t understand. Give it a rest. Islam is evil. You are aiding evil.

          • hiernonymous

            “Swanson is not an example of Christianity.”

            Says who? He certainly claims to be.

            “Christianity does not call for the murder of gays like Islam does.”

            Leviticus 20:13 (King James Version)
            If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

            “You are defaming a religion you don’t understand (Christianity) and defending a vile cult (Islam) that you likewise don’t understand.”

            I see a great deal of posturing on your part, but not a great deal of support. You’ve said that you understand both religions, and that I do not – support your contention.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Swanson is not a Christian. Muhammad claimed to talk to demons and angels. He claimed to be the messenger of a mythological moon deity. Does that make it true?

            I KNEW you would try to quote Leviticus. I was hoping you would be so stupid. Every leftard website dedicated to smearing the most benevolent group (Christianity) the world has ever seen tries that. THERE IS NO CHRISTIAN PRACTICE OF HARMING GAYS OR ANYBODY ELSE. IN FACT, CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE CALLS FOR THE FORGIVENESS AND PROTECTION OF ALL – AND IT IS PRACTICED. There are plenty of violent passages in the Old Testament. None are preached or practiced by Christians. Not only is it a moot point, but even ancient Leviticus is harmless. Leviticus was the law scholar tribe of the seven tribes of the ancient (and extinct) Israelites. Their laws did not apply to any outsiders and were not even applied to themselves. Every Israelite accused of a crime was entitled to a peer review and death sentences for being gay have never been recorded.

            Islam, on the other hand……….

          • hiernonymous

            Matthew 5:17: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

            As for what is practiced, Christians run the gamut. There are indeed Christians that practice forgiveness and love. There are some like you who preach it, though they’re a bit spotty in the practice. And there are plenty of hardline Christians who would vehemently disagree with your interpretation – and you don’t get to wish them away by saying “well, they’re not real Christians.”

            On what basis can you claim “Swanson is not a Christian?” That he doesn’t interpret Christianity as you profess to? That his words and actions are inconvenient to your position, so you disavow him? What’s your criterion for your claim?

          • ziggy zoggy

            Christianity does not murder or even inconvenience gays. Islam kills them publicly.

            Swanson does not practice Christian doctrine so he is not a Christian. He is a fraud, just like you.

          • hiernonymous

            “Swanson does not practice Christian doctrine so he is not a Christian.”

            Really? So he’s a heretic? An apostate? What actions of his are out of step with which Christian doctrine?

            For that matter, how in step with that whole love and forgiveness thing are you? You seem to spend an awful lot of your time on bile and insult; are you sure that’s what the Sermon on the Mount was all about?

          • Drakken

            The most hard line Christian isn’t going to kill you, they will give you quite a headache but that is about it, islam on the other hand will kill you for being an infidel and God help you if you are gay unless of course it is man/boy love Thursday after noon prayers where it doesn’t matter.

          • hiernonymous

            So the gays that have been murdered in the U.S. – they’ve all been done in by Muslims or atheists? Just curious.

          • Drakken

            Muslim kill gays because of their religion, Christians don’t, individuals do in spite of christianity. simples.

          • hiernonymous

            Of course. The folks we like do terrible things in spite of their religion, the folks we don’t do it because of their religion. Simple, yes. Accurate, not so much.

          • defcon 4

            Jews haven’t stoned women to death for millenia fool, the muslimes still do.

          • hiernonymous

            You’ve not walked through the ultra-orthodox quarters of Jerusalem, have you?

          • Drakken

            I have and they don’t throw stones at women there, you might get cursed but that is about it.

          • hiernonymous

            No, they’ll get physical there.

          • Drakken

            You punch one in the face and the rest back off, easy peasy.

          • defcon 4

            Interesting, the ultimate source for your allegation ISN’T radio.foxnews but instead

            http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/swanson-tell-gay-couples-die-their-wedding-day

            A source which doesn’t name the radio station involved.

            I call shens.

          • hiernonymous

            The relevant issue, of course, is not the ultimate source, but the willingness of FOX News to validate and broadcast the news item.

          • defcon 4

            LOL, a news article that doesn’t name the FCC approved radio station in question. Gee, it has all the appeal of a PressTV source, or Al Jazeera.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Wrong, as always.

          • Barbara D

            “There is no Congressman or radio host calling for the murder of gays”

            Here’s one: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/29/dan-savage-death-stan-solomon-_n_3837289.html

            Check your facts before you call someone a “$hit eating liar.” But I don’t expect conservatives to be concerned with facts, only hysterical talking points fed to them.

          • ziggy zoggy

            The HuffPo. No wonder it turned out to be fake. Grimm’s fables are more authentic.

        • ziggy zoggy

          Barbarian D, You have it backwards, you lying sack of lefty $hit. Gays and their advocates routinely call for the death or persecution of Christians. White people and Christians are routinely attacked by “minorities” and left-wing atheists. Atheists in power ignore the 80% (minimum) Christian majority reality and seek atheism in school, business and government. LOOK IT UP.

          The author absolutely did NOT write about the details of the film but you libeled him anyway, which is typical of left-wing trolls like you.

          If it weren’t for blind hatred and rank stupidity, you wouldn’t have any personality at all.

          • Barbara D

            Here we go – white people and Christians, the most oppressed minority the world has ever seen. Yawn.

          • defcon 4

            Duh, musilmes are slaughtering and persecuting Christians (among others) throughout the muslime world ignoramus.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Here we go – the leftWing denial of reality. Yawn. Pull your head out and take a gulp of fresh air, loser. You debate like an adolescent – which is the typical mental level of leftists.

          • hiernonymous

            “…you lying sack of lefty $hit”

            “If it weren’t for blind hatred and rank stupidity, you wouldn’t have any personality at all.”

            “You debate like an adolescent”

            Hmmm.

          • ziggy zoggy

            I take it you support her ret@rded argument and dispute mine?

          • hiernonymous

            What you should take from that comment has nothing to do with whose position I support.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Then what should I take from it? I’m being charitable here.

          • hiernonymous

            I’ve juxtaposed two of your comments with a third. You should take from that what you are able to take from it.

          • defcon 4

            Your replies are non-orthogonal to the z-axis.

          • ziggy zoggy

            What kind of medication are you on? No offense to the mentally ill, but I recognize pathology when I encounter it. The nature of mental illness means you will be compelled to deny it but you are obviously quite sick.

          • hiernonymous

            One hopes that you make a better psychiatrist than historian.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Yes, I am a psychiatric expert and yes, you are mentally ill and on meds.

            Again, what medications are you on?

          • hiernonymous

            “Yes, I am a psychiatric expert…”

            Really? Psychiatrist? Psychologist? Stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

          • defcon 4

            They might be two sock puppets on different hands.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Wouldn’t surprise me.

          • defcon 4

            Hmm, hers and your puerile attempt at an argument of false equivalence between Christianity and Islam in the 21st century is laughable. After all, who is slaughtering and persecuting whom all over the world, right now, in the 21st century?

          • hiernonymous

            Good question. It’d be interesting to see if you can come up with a good body count of people killed by adherents of the various faiths. I don’t think it would stack up the way you imply.

          • defcon 4

            Damn you’re dumb. At least a million people have been slaughtered by muslimes in the 21st century dirtbag — just look up the genocide committed by Arabic muslimes in the Sudan/Darfur. Then there’s the ongoing ethnic cleansing being committed by muslimes throughout the Mid-East, N. Africa, Nigeria, S.E. Asia, W. Papua New Guinea.

          • hiernonymous

            Still a bit vague – how many casualties are you attributing to what specific acts?

            Your thought process isn’t terribly clear. You’ve listed places where there is violence involving Muslims (not sure whether “muslimes” reflects a defect in your spelling or your wit, but no matter); but your list is curiously incomplete. It doesn’t include all the Christians committing violence in Mexico, Colombia, the Balkans, Georgia, Congo, Jamaica, Ivory Coast, Peru, Angola, etc. You seem to be assuming that any conflict involving Muslims is an example of Muslim aggression, which pretty much ignores cases such as the Russian invasions of Chechnya and Afghanistan, the Serb ethnic cleansing of Balkan Muslims, or the fact that the U.S. invaded Iraq, not the other way around; that’s a pretty impressive tally of bodies on its own. Darfur was pretty nasty, but pales in comparison to Rwanda – which, you may recall, was not a case of jihad, though of course that misses the 21st Century by 6 years or so. (And, as for Nigeria, if you’re talking about the Boko Haram uprising, had you forgotten that the Nigerian government struck the first blow there? Not sure how that figures into your scale of religious indignation.)

          • defcon 4

            LOL, you can try piling it deeper and higher, but it still stinks.

          • hiernonymous

            That’s not a rebuttal, either.

          • defcon 4

            LOL, who has been ethnically cleansing whom from the former Yugoslavia lying slave of allah? All we have to do is look at what’s happened in Kosovo. The ethnic cleansing of Christians and really, anyone non-muslim, in the Mid-East and N. Africa by muslimes such as yourself is historical fact dirtbag. Your lies might work w/the dhimmidiots of the world, but not here.

          • hiernonymous

            “LOL, who has been ethnically cleansing whom from the former Yugoslavia lying slave of allah?”

            Good question. Without question, the most egregious ethnic cleansing was that carried out by the Bosnian Serb Army in its attempt to kill or drive out Bosnian Muslims. The Srebrenica massacre alone involved the murder of over 8000 civilians.

            The situation in Kosovo was much more convoluted, and never reached the level of horror seen in Bosnia, but it deserves mention. Ethnic cleansing arguably happened in both directions in Kosovo. When the KLA began launching attacks on Serb police, the Serbs responded with a calculated campaign of terror against Kosovar civilians, though not on the scale of Bosnia. Kosovars retaliated against Serbs, and there’s no doubt that Serb enclaves in Kosovo were the target of abuses as well.

            That said, by far the characteristic ethnic cleansing of the Balkan Wars was that carried out against Muslims.

            “Your lies might work w/the dhimmidiots of the world, but not here.”

            “… by muslimes such as yourself …”

            Would this be an example of the quality of your reasoning, or a simple resort to ad hominem? Either way, it doesn’t reflect well.

            “The ethnic cleansing of Christians and really, anyone non-muslim, in the Mid-East and N. Africa … is historical fact dirtbag.”

            There are, in fact, historical examples of ethnic cleansing by Muslims in MENA. There are also examples of ethnic cleansing by any number of other faiths and ethnic groups. What point, exactly, are you trying to make, so we can determine which “historical facts” are relevant to evaluating it?

            If your point is that Islam uniquely engages in ethnic cleansing, that’s obviously nonsense. The single greatest case of ethnic cleansing in living memory was committed by a Christian nation. The most horrible genocide in our lifetimes was committed by Christians. My intent in pointing this out is not to claim that Christianity is ‘worse’ than Islam, but to point out that it is not obviously better-behaved or uniquely moral, either.

            I would suggest that the degree to which you pepper your own posts with ethnic and religious slurs (islamonazi, muslime, allahtard, etc) is indicative of the degree to which you exhibit the same mentality that you supposedly decry.

          • ziggy zoggy

            The Bozniaks were always the aggressors and all their stories about massacres are lies. Islam caused the Balkanization of Yugoslavia.

          • hiernonymous

            Srebrinica was imaginary? Fascinating.

          • ziggy zoggy

            The Bozniaks lost a fight they started. Too bad. :(

          • hiernonymous

            The Yugoslav Army, on leaving Bosnia as it declared independence, left a large amount of its materiel, personnel, and senior leaders with the Serb Republic military, which initiated hostilities by the ethnic cleansing of several towns in eastern Bosnia. The Bosniaks did not start that fight.

          • Drakken

            The numbers were not the 5,000 as advertised it was 500, and what precipitated it was the Bosnian muslims slaughter of the Serbs.

          • hiernonymous

            The UN doesn’t seem to agree on either count; what’s your source?

          • Drakken

            NATO forensic data. Use your clearance to access it. I take it your TSC is still current?

          • hiernonymous

            Okay, here’s where we call BS. Nobody – but NOBODY – with access to classified alludes to that information for a reason so niggling and picayune as an online argument.

            I don’t know if you’re a poseur or just have remarkably bad judgment, but I’d rather not be part of either.

          • Drakken

            It’s open source Sparky, geezus you take yourself way to seriously, and argue just for the sake of argument.

          • hiernonymous

            If it’s open source, then why all the secret squirrel garbage about TSC access and databases? Just cite your source, if you have one.

          • defcon 4

            I owe you no respect supercilious assclown, or your death cult. There is no debate about the nature of islam in any of your various islam0nazi misery theme parks, because to do so would be crime. Go stuff a camel Jihad Joe.

          • hiernonymous

            “I owe you no respect supercilious assclown”

            Had I written something that suggested I wanted it? Until you get your Tourette’s under better control, yours isn’t an endorsement I’d seek.

            “Go stuff a camel Jihad Joe.”

            Well argued.

          • ziggy zoggy

            He was a prostitute in Egypt and he loves Islam because it pounds his @$$ the way Achmed does. Seriously. He is gay for Islam.

          • ziggy zoggy

            All the religions of the world are at peace with one another except one: Islam. It is at war with all others. There is no refuting this, no matter how hard you deny it. The Christian pogroms you listed are fictional. Islamic mayhem is not.

          • hiernonymous

            “There is no refuting this, no matter how hard you deny it.”

            Adopting a stance and then informing the other fellow that he can’t deny what you’re saying is a child’s attempt at preemption, not argument.

            There is conflict at every major intersection of ethnicity and culture. Islam occupies a central position, covering North Africa to South Asia to Indonesia and the southern Philippines. The flaw in your reasoning is that you attribute all conflict in largely Muslim states to that state’s religion, but you wave away all conflict elsewhere as having nothing to do with religion.

            You should apply a little more thought and rigor to your ‘analysis,’ but you’re not going to get there by parroting what you find on any sort of web site, left or right.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Another non answer from a serial liar. The ONLY religion at war with all others is Islam. All other religions are at peace with one another. Those are the facts. Islam is violent and stone aged wherever it is present. The only continent that is jihad free is Antarctica – and only because islamopithecines are too weak and incompetent to live there, even with Western patronage.

          • hiernonymous

            Let’s see if we have this straight: the Muslims are too weak and incompetent to survive the cold even with “Western patronage” – but they’re also a deadly threat to world civilization?

            The hatred is clear – the rationality, not so much.

            How well have Judaism and Christianity coexisted in Europe? While you’re on about ethnic cleansing of North Africa, did you happen to forget the ethnic cleansing of Europe?

            How’d Christianity do at coexisting with Native American religions? What word would you use for the forcible conquest and forced conversions of the native population if it had been conducted by Muslims?

            Hinduism and Christianity have always gotten along, though, because they are religions of peace, right? Well, not exactly; we have, for example, the Sepoy rebellion, which began when Hindus became outraged at the new pre-greased paper cartridges they were required to bite in order to load their weapons – they were greased with tallow, which violated their religion and threatened their caste standing, resulting in a war that lasted over a year. Some of India’s Muslims joined the Hindu rebellion, while the Sikhs supported the Christian British.

            In 1966, South Vietnamese Buddhists rose up against Diem, whose minority Catholic government discriminated against the Buddhist majority. Nary a Muslim to be seen.

            Again, you see what you want to see, and you assume that any violence involving Muslims is religious in nature, while you assume that any conflict involving other religions has other causes. That sort of double standard isn’t analysis, it’s rationalization of prejudice. You also neglect to consider that in many cases, the Muslims were not the aggressor; in Bosnia, for example; in Chechnya; the Uighurs in China; in the Philippine Insurrection. When you find yourself justifying the Bosnian Serb massacres in Srebrenica in order to avoid modifying your views, you’re probably lost to reason.

          • ziggy zoggy

            A cancer needs a host body to survive. Islamopithecines are too primitive and incompetent to handle science, exploration or anything remotely intrepid.

            Christianity has never been at war with Jews or the Amerindian immigrants from Asia.

            The Sepoy rebellion was Muslim and had nothing to do with Christianity.

            There has never been a Christian war in Vietnam.

            The islamopithecines absolutely have been the aggressors in Yugoslavia, “Chechnya” and the Philippines.

            Try again.

          • hiernonymous

            Christianity has a long and storied history of hostilities against Jews.
            The Sepoy rebellion began as a Hindu rebellion; Muslims later joined the rebellion, but it was neither started by nor ever primarily a Muslim rebellion. The spark for the Sepoy Rebellion was a confrontation over the implications of the use of the new cartridges for the caste standing of the Sepoy soldiers.

            The Buddhist rebellion against domination by the Catholic minority in Vietnam is a clear case of Buddhist-Christian violence.
            You don’t get to just wish away or deny these events. When you try to insist that the only religion that ever has violent confrontations with others is Islam, you’re just letting your bigotry blind you to history.
            As for the Muslims (not sure why you cling to your attempted wit; does that pass for clever in Podunk?) being the aggressors in those cases, that’s demonstrably not the case; the Serb Republic Army initiated hostilities in Bosnia; the Russian Army opened hostilities in Chechnya by attempting – eventually successfully – to reimpose Moscow’s rule after Chechnya tried to leave; and in the Philippines, it may have escaped your attention that the United States was unquestionably the aggressor there. On defeating Spain in the Spanish-American War, Aguinaldo’s Philippine Army, which had been fighting for independence from Spain, assumed that the U.S. was there to liberate the Philippines; instead, we decided to conquer and rule it ourselves. We ran into Muslim resistance when we tried to establish control over the southern islands. Kind of hard to paint them as the aggressors there – are you suggesting that the Philippine Muslims somehow forced the Department of War to send troops to their homes in order for them to wage jihad? You’re blinded by bigotry.

          • Drakken

            The places that you just mentioned, all have muslim insurrection problems, the moro’s in spite of a so called peace agreement has failed, and frankly I hope the Philipino’s take a page out of the Burma playbook and deal with the muslim problem once and for all. As for the Chinese Uighurs, the Chinese Han are not afraid to deal with them in their own bloody coin. Chechnya has always been a thorn in Russia;s side and the reason you never here about it anymore is because the Russians deal with them quietly with no muss and no fuss. As for the Serbs, we interfered where it wasn’t necessary.

          • hiernonymous

            “…and the reason you never here about it anymore is because the Russians deal with them quietly with no muss and no fuss.”

            No muss, no fuss? The first Russian attempt to storm Chechnya ended in a slaughter – of the Russians. The Russians went back in with overwhelming force and crushed the opposition – that is why you don’t hear much about it anymore.

          • Drakken

            The Russians still are getting problems from that region and do things that are extremely under the radar. You have to hand it to the Russians where their muslim problem is concerned, they aren’t afraid to get their hands dirty.

          • Drakken

            Unlike us, the Russians weren’t afraid to clear out that rats nest of muslims in Chechnya and it was a massive mistake to interfere with the Serbs. Now Bosnia and Kosovo are Islamic crime ridden cesspools.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            120 million Africans
            60 million Christians
            80 million Hindus
            10 million Buddhists
            This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad.

            However, don’t make the mistake of assuming that Islam is a faith-based religion, because it is not. It’s an extremely totalitarian cult instead.

          • hiernonymous

            Could you be a bit more specific? What do those numbers actually represent? I’m pretty sure that there haven’t been 270 million people killed by any group in the 21st Century, so you clearly have something else in mind. If this is supposed to be a sum total of deaths since 632 or so, how’d you arrive at your figure? I ask, not simply to nitpick, but so that I can apply the same basic methodology to see how it stacks up against others.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Sorry…I forgot to post the link, which is now below.

            http://www.politicalislam.com/tears/pages/tears-of-jihad/

          • hiernonymous

            Please. Look at the very first paragraph. Thomas Sowell works up some highly speculative figures, assuming that there were 25 million African slaves sold over the course of the slave trade – 11 million in the Atlantic trade, and 14 million to Arab states – and assumes on the vague estimate of one scholar that 5 people died for every slave that survived to be sold – that this involved the death of 120 million Africans, which you have added to your total of 270 million. This is absurd in several respects. First, claiming that deaths associated with the African Atlantic slave trade are actually attributable to “jihad” because “Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa” is reprehensible on multiple levels. It further assumes that any act by a Muslim is an act of “jihad.” In short, 120 million of your alleged 270 million consisted in very large part of attributing the evils of the sale of African slaves to European buyers to the religion of some of those selling the slaves. And so far, we’ve accepted Sowell’s bland assertion at face value – that those selling slaves were Muslims. That’s true of the the northern slave trade, but the majority of slaves taken for the Atlantic slave trade were not bought from the Muslim market, but from Africans involved in internecine (from a European perspective) warfare.

            The other figures aren’t even dignified by specifics. Moore estimates that 50 million Christians in Asia Minor were ‘martyred’ in wars of jihad? What wars? Where does the figure come from?

            At any rate, it’s clear enough that although you’re dealing with vague, wave-of-the-hand numbers, let’s consider that the numbers being offered are, in fact, intended to represent everyone killed by Islam since its inception.

            So let’s see how the Christians stack up, shall we?

            Let’s get some of the big-casualty items out of the way first. WWII killed 60-80 million; since one of the major combatants, Japan, was not a Christian state, we’ll discount the casualties inflicted by them, and stick with the low end of the estimate – call it 60 million.
            Tack on another 15 million from WWI (we won’t count those inflicted by the Ottomans).

            It’s hard to pin down the number of Native Americans wiped out by Christian settlers, but one widely respected estimate is that 80% of a pre-Columbian population of 54 million died, so let’s call that 40 million.

            We’ve got 5 million in the Russian Civil War, another 5 million in the Napoleonic Wars, about 5 million in the Congo Wars, call it about 5 million total for Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq; 3 million killed in France’s Catholic-Protestant wars; about 2 million in the Crusades; 7 million in the Reconquista; 3 million when Menelik established control of Ethiopia; 7 million in the 30 Years’ War.

            We haven’t really gotten exhaustive yet, and we’ve already got nearly 160 million to stack up against the 150 million you have left when Sowell’s slave trade figures are discounted. But you don’t want to discount Sowell’s figures?

            Okay, but we need to rework them. Sowell cites 14 million in the Arab slave trade, so we’ll give him his attendant assumed casualties – using his factor of 5, that gives us 70 million for the Muslims. He cites 11 million for the Atlantic slave trade, which is actually the bottom end of the normally accepted range of 11-20 million; split the difference, round down (so you don’t accuse me of trying to inflate), and we have 15 million, for a Sowell-adjusted death rate of 75 million.

            That leaves us with Muslims 220, Christians 233.

            Keeping in mind that this is accepting the rest of Sowell’s ludicrously vague sources at face value – and we’ve been kind enough to not count any violence committed by Christians prior to Islam.

            Clearly, trying to paint one religion as significantly bloodier than the other is a pretty silly proposition.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            First, claiming that deaths associated with the African Atlantic slave trade are actually attributable to “jihad” because “Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa” is reprehensible on multiple levels.

            Very obviously you have been brainwashed to hate Christians and Christianity since you view them as representing a direct threat to your own religion, which is secular Marxism. Not to mention that it has gloriously failed every time it has been tried, but you moonbats never learn.

            So let’s see how the Christians stack up, shall we?

            Why? This thread was about Muslims and not about Christians, why bring up Christianity at all? Moreover, why ignorantly attempt to morally equate Christians and Christianity with Muslims and Islam? Not to mention that Islam isn’t even a faith-based religion, but a very aggressive and destructive totalitarian cult instead. As the first and foremost prerequisite of Islam is the total, complete, and unconditional submission to the “will of Allah” under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy. Indeed, what faith-based religions also compel faith via the total, complete, and unconditional submission under the pain of death for blasphemy and apostasy? The answer, of course, is none of them, and that proves unequivocally that Islam isn’t a faith-based religion even though like a gullible useful idiot you are foolishly trying to morally equate the two.

            In any event, Christians aren’t waging jihad in the cause of Allah for the establishment/expansion of Islam against all religions and all infidels around the world through violent and non-violent jihad for the strategic purpose of subjugating them into Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law, the same way only Muslims are doing. Hence, why are you trying to indict Christians for the sins of Muslims? Obviously, it’s because you have been rendered unhinged via your indoctrination into Marxism. Oh, poor you.

            WWII killed 60-80 million; since one of the major combatants, Japan, was not a Christian state, we’ll discount the casualties inflicted by them, and stick with the low end of the estimate – call it 60 million.

            Give me a break you unhinged moonbat. What does Christianity have to do with WWII? Not a damn thing! Furthermore, Christianity, in stark contrast to Islam, is a faith-based religion, like also Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism. It’s not a very aggressive and destructive form of totalitarianism the same way that only Islam is. Indeed, Christianity, like Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, also doesn’t forbid the freedom of conscience the same way that only Islam does. Christianity, like Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, also doesn’t make the very absurd claim that only their holy texts is the direct verbatim testimony of Allah (God) as dictated to Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel. As a matter of fact, Christianity, like Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, also doesn’t have it’s own form of totalitarian law, i.e., Sharia, which again allegedly emanates directly from Allah and is thus divine.

            Hence, there are no Christian states because Christianity unlike Islam is a true faith-based religion as opposed to a very aggressive and destructive totalitarian cult the same way Islam is, and furthermore all democratic states also have separation of church and state in any event, whereas in the Islamic world, Islam is the state, that is if it isn’t ruled by a very ruthless authoritarian dictator instead, which is the only other viable alternative form of government in the Islamic world, since Islam again is a very aggressive and destructive form of totalitarianism as opposed to being an actual faith-based religion. Indeed, the Islamic world isn’t incredibly totalitarian and authoritarian for nothing you moonbat.

            It’s hard to pin down the number of Native Americans wiped out by Christian settlers,

            Wiped out by Christian settlers no doubt in your unhinged mind and also in the cause of Christianity for the establishment/expansion of Christianity no doubt, as Christian’s were/are the epitome of evil? Talk about sick! It is easy to see you are not a Christian, as you don’t have the first clue about Christianity. Indeed, all you know about Christians and Christianity is the garbage propaganda you have swallowed lock, stock, and barrel like the very indoctrinated leftwing moonbat you are. No wonder all you self-hating losers hate America with a passion and desire to make it pay for its alleged sins. On that bit of stupidity, all I have to say is seek mental help for your severe mental issues, as Marxist doctrinaires have obviously exploited your ignorance’s to the hilt. Dude…you are oblivious! And what a moron!

            We’ve got 5 million in the Russian Civil War, another 5 million in the Napoleonic Wars, about 5 million in the Congo Wars, call it about 5 million total for Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq; 3 million killed in France’s Catholic-Protestant wars

            All that blamed on Christians and Christianity? Amazing! Dude you are totally 100 percent unhinged. Excuse me but none of those wars were even remotely connected to Christianity you unhinged moron!

            about 2 million in the Crusades

            Give me a break you moonbat…the Crusades, which occurred long before the Enlightenment, were in reality a long delayed response to the fact that half of what was Christendom at the time was conquered by Islam. Talk about having your ignorance’s exploited to the hilt. Dude…you take the cake.

            7 million in the Reconquista;

            What was the Reconqusita? It was the re-conquering of Muslim Spain after it had been previously conquered and rendered into Islamic totalitarianism by Muslims.

            3 million when Menelik established control of Ethiopia; 7 million in the 30 Years’ War.

            The vast overwhelming amount of your absurd garbage isn’t even remotely related to Christians and Christianity. Dude you have been rendered very severely mentally unhinged via your leftwing Marxist indoctrination.

            That leaves us with Muslims 220, Christians 233.

            Another incredibly unhinged moral equivalence to suggest that somehow Christians and Christianity are as evil and aggressive as Islam. Indeed, how can you go to sleep at night knowing that those evil Christians could break into your home at anytime to torture and even kill you? You must be permanently depressed!

            Like I said, Dude, seek mental help for your severe mental issues that is a direct result stemming from your leftwing Marxist indoctrination. No wonder you morons are so delusional, look at the unhinged crap you loons are dumb enough to swallow. Nevertheless, I just have to say that your post is one of the most hilarious things I have ever seen on the Internet. Buddy, indeed, you take the cake! Wow…you are more than a little unhinged.

            Keeping in mind that this is accepting the rest of Sowell’s ludicrously vague sources at face value -

            Dude, I have to say, I have far more respect for the scholarship of Thomas Sowell because he very scrupulously documents all of his sources, whereas you don’t document a damn thing, because, of course, all of it incredibly fantasy based and more than just a little delusional on top of it! Man…I hope you aren’t an example of the kind of education our kids are receiving today. No wonder our country is going to hell in a hand basket so fast. Indeed, it sucks to be you.

            Clearly, trying to paint one religion as significantly bloodier than the other is a pretty silly proposition.

            That’s the first semi lucid comment you’ve made in your entire response, except for the fact that Islam unlike Christianity isn’t a faith-based religion, but a very aggressive and destructive form of totalitarianism instead, and, of course, it couldn’t be more obvious, that you don’t have the first clue about religion, because you obviously always have been secular and a Marxist.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            First, claiming that deaths associated with the African Atlantic slave trade are actually attributable to “jihad” because “Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa” is reprehensible on multiple levels.

            Very obviously you have been brainwashed to hate Christians and Christianity since you view them as representing a direct threat to your own religion, which is secular Marxism. Not to mention that it has gloriously failed every time it has been tried, but you moonbats never learn.

            So let’s see how the Christians stack up, shall we?

            Why? This thread was about Muslims and not about Christians, why bring up Christianity at all? Moreover, why ignorantly attempt to morally equate Christians and Christianity with Muslims and Islam? Not to mention that Islam isn’t even a faith-based religion, but a very aggressive and destructive totalitarian cult instead. As the first and foremost prerequisite of Islam is the total, complete, and unconditional submission to the “will of Allah” under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy. Indeed, what faith-based religions also compel faith via the total, complete, and unconditional submission under the pain of death for blasphemy and apostasy? The answer, of course, is none of them, and that proves unequivocally that Islam isn’t a faith-based religion even though like a gullible useful idiot you are foolishly trying to morally equate the two.

            In any event, Christians aren’t waging jihad in the cause of Allah for the establishment/expansion of Islam against all religions and all infidels around the world through violent and non-violent jihad for the strategic purpose of subjugating them into Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law, the same way only Muslims are doing. Hence, why are you trying to indict Christians for the sins of Muslims? Obviously, it’s because you have been rendered unhinged via your indoctrination into Marxism. Oh, poor you.

            WWII killed 60-80 million; since one of the major combatants, Japan, was not a Christian state, we’ll discount the casualties inflicted by them, and stick with the low end of the estimate – call it 60 million.

            Give me a break you unhinged moonbat. What does Christianity have to do with WWII? Not a damn thing! Furthermore, Christianity, in stark contrast to Islam, is a faith-based religion, like also Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism. It’s not a very aggressive and destructive form of totalitarianism the same way that only Islam is. Indeed, Christianity, like Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, also doesn’t forbid the freedom of conscience the same way that only Islam does. Christianity, like Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, also doesn’t make the very absurd claim that only their holy texts is the direct verbatim testimony of Allah (God) as dictated to Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel. As a matter of fact, Christianity, like Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, also doesn’t have it’s own form of totalitarian law, i.e., Sharia, which again allegedly emanates directly from Allah and is thus divine.

            Hence, there are no Christian states because Christianity unlike Islam is a true faith-based religion as opposed to a very aggressive and destructive totalitarian cult the same way Islam is, and furthermore all democratic states also have separation of church and state in any event, whereas in the Islamic world, Islam is the state, that is if it isn’t ruled by a very ruthless authoritarian dictator instead, which is the only other viable alternative form of government in the Islamic world, since Islam again is a very aggressive and destructive form of totalitarianism as opposed to being an actual faith-based religion. Indeed, the Islamic world isn’t incredibly totalitarian and authoritarian for nothing you moonbat.

            It’s hard to pin down the number of Native Americans wiped out by Christian settlers,

            Wiped out by Christian settlers no doubt in your unhinged mind and also in the cause of Christianity for the establishment/expansion of Christianity no doubt, as Christian’s were/are the epitome of evil? Talk about sick! It is easy to see you are not a Christian, as you don’t have the first clue about Christianity. Indeed, all you know about Christians and Christianity is the garbage propaganda you have swallowed lock, stock, and barrel like the very indoctrinated leftwing moonbat you are. No wonder all you self-hating losers hate America with a passion and desire to make it pay for its alleged sins. On that bit of stupidity, all I have to say is seek mental help for your severe mental issues, as Marxist doctrinaires have obviously exploited your ignorance’s to the hilt. Dude…you are oblivious! And what a moron!

            We’ve got 5 million in the Russian Civil War, another 5 million in the Napoleonic Wars, about 5 million in the Congo Wars, call it about 5 million total for Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq; 3 million killed in France’s Catholic-Protestant wars

            All that blamed on Christians and Christianity? Amazing! Dude you are totally 100 percent unhinged. Excuse me but none of those wars were even remotely connected to Christianity you unhinged moron!

            about 2 million in the Crusades

            Give me a break you moonbat…the Crusades, which occurred long before the Enlightenment, were in reality a long delayed response to the fact that half of what was Christendom at the time was conquered by Islam. Talk about having your ignorance’s exploited to the hilt. Dude…you take the cake.

            7 million in the Reconquista;

            What was the Reconqusita? It was the re-conquering of Muslim Spain after it had been previously conquered and rendered into Islamic totalitarianism by Muslims.

            3 million when Menelik established control of Ethiopia; 7 million in the 30 Years’ War.

            The vast overwhelming amount of your absurd garbage isn’t even remotely related to Christians and Christianity. Dude you have been rendered very severely mentally unhinged via your leftwing Marxist indoctrination.

            That leaves us with Muslims 220, Christians 233.

            Another incredibly unhinged moral equivalence to suggest that somehow Christians and Christianity are as evil and aggressive as Islam. Indeed, how can you go to sleep at night knowing that those evil Christians could break into your home at anytime to torture and even kill you? You must be permanently depressed!

            Like I said, Dude, seek mental help for your severe mental issues that is a direct result stemming from your leftwing Marxist indoctrination. No wonder you morons are so delusional, look at the unhinged crap you loons are dumb enough to swallow. Nevertheless, I just have to say that your post is one of the most hilarious things I have ever seen on the Internet. Buddy, indeed, you take the cake! Wow…you are more than a little unhinged.

            Keeping in mind that this is accepting the rest of Sowell’s ludicrously vague sources at face value -

            Dude, I have to say, I have far more respect for the scholarship of Thomas Sowell because he very scrupulously documents all of his sources, whereas you don’t document a damn thing, because, of course, all of it is incredibly fantasy based and more than just a little delusional on top of it! Man…I hope you aren’t an example of the kind of education our kids are receiving today. No wonder our country is going to heck in a hand basket so fast. Indeed, it sucks to be you.

            Clearly, trying to paint one religion as significantly bloodier than the other is a pretty silly proposition.

            That’s the first semi lucid comment you’ve made in your entire response, except for the fact that Islam unlike Christianity isn’t a faith-based religion, but a very aggressive and destructive form of totalitarianism instead, and, of course, it couldn’t be more obvious, that you don’t have the first clue about religion, because you obviously always have been secular and a Marxist. Again, it sucks to be you.

          • hiernonymous

            “All that blamed on Christians and Christianity? Amazing! Dude you are totally 100 percent unhinged. Excuse me but none of those wars were even remotely connected to Christianity you unhinged moron!”

            You chose the methodology; I applied it. That silly article you linked to – the one with the 270 million figure – attributed every death – documented or assumed – committed by a Muslim to Islam. You offered 120 million deaths of Africans as examples for Islam; those deaths (to the extent that they actually happened; the methodology of the count was pretty cavalier) quite clearly were not the result of jihad, but you had no problem tallying them into your total for Islam. If all deaths by Muslims are to be laid at the feet of Islam, then all deaths by Christians are to be laid at the feet of Christianity. Sorry, you don’t get to apply a double standard.

            “…and, of course, it couldn’t be more obvious, that you don’t have the first clue about religion, because you obviously always have been secular and a Marxist.”

            Apparently, many things are obvious, if you don’t insist on knowing what you’re talking about before offering an opinion.

            “Another incredibly unhinged moral equivalence to suggest that somehow Christians and Christianity are as evil and aggressive as Islam.”

            Christians have killed as many people, started as many wars, committed as many atrocities – was there some other standard you prefer to apply?

            “Like I said, Dude, seek mental help for your severe mental issues that is a direct result stemming from your leftwing Marxist indoctrination. No wonder you morons are so delusional, look at the unhinged crap you loons are dumb enough to swallow.”

            Of course. Coming unhinged in public is quite the spectacle, is it not?

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Well, that’s true. What they do have in common is that it was Christians killing other people.

            With respect to Christians involved in wars, in their private lives, those involved may or may have not been Christians, but none of those wars were ever about fighting in the cause of Christianity you loon. In fact, none of them had anything whatsoever to do with Christianity you moonbat. Not to mention one more time ad nauseum that Christianity is a faith-based religion as opposed to Islam, which is a very aggressive and destructive form of totalitarianism that has as its sole fundamental purpose the subjugation of all religions and all infidels into Islamic totalitarianism through violent and non-violent jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law. Now, of course, you don’t understand any of the above and especially what is a faith-based religion, since other hopeless Marxists exactly as mentally incompetent as you have indoctrinated you. Not to mention that the nature of war is kill or be killed. Hence, yes participants in wars kill in self-defense.

            By the way, how do you Marxist moonbats explain away the undeniable fact that Marxism inevitably fails like clockwork every time it has been tried? Indeed, Islam hasn’t produced yet nearly the number of deaths caused by Marxist catastrophes.

            You chose the methodology; I applied it

            I chose a methodology? Indeed, you are more than a little delusional. That article was in response to your nonsense moonbat. Indeed, this entire thread is about Muslims, but yet because you are so obsessed with Christians and Christianity, like the unhinged bigoted Marxist moonbat you have been rendered into, you can’t help it as you must attack Christians and Christianity unprovoked and obsessively, while equating Islam with Christianity as if it is just another faith-based religion, or otherwise to denigrate Christians and Christianity deliberately to pacify your unhinged obsession.

            Christians have killed as many people, started as many wars, committed as many atrocities – was there some other standard you prefer to apply?

            Sick! Very, very sick indeed! Like I keep telling you, seek mental help for your severe mental issues with delusions. You are blaming Christians for wars that didn’t have anything to do with Christianity, because you are so delusional, of course.

            Of course. Coming unhinged in public is quite the spectacle, is it not?

            You should know from your own personal experience moonbat.

          • hiernonymous

            “With respect to Christians involved in wars, in their private lives, those involved may or may have not been Christians, but none of those wars were ever about fighting in the cause of Christianity you loon.”

            Again, you established the standard and the methodology. The 120 million Africans Sowell refers to were killed by people who may or may not have been Muslims, but they were not killed in the name of Allah; by Sowell’s own accounting, they were killed incidentally to slave raids. You are insisting on being allowed to run a double standard, and it won’t fly.

            “By the way, how do you Marxist moonbats explain away the undeniable fact that Marxism inevitably fails like clockwork every time it has been tried?”

            Perhaps you should address your question to a Marxist, though it’s not clear how it’s in any way relevant to the conversation, such as it is.

            “I chose a methodology?”

            Well, yes. You offered numbers, and you offered an accounting, of sorts, of how those numbers were determined. That’s a methodology. It wasn’t a particularly sound one, but one it was.

            “Sick! Very, very sick indeed!”

            Again, that is not a rebuttal.

            “You should know from your own personal experience moonbat.”

            As you like.

          • ziggy zoggy

            The sources listed in the article OYM linked to were impeccable. You couldn’t refute them if you had a trillion Saudi petro death dollars.

          • hiernonymous

            Just out of curiosity, what’s your academic background? When you refer to a vague conclusion and refer to it as an “impeccable” source, it leads me to question whether you actually understand what an impeccable source might look like.

          • defcon 4

            Who cares what his “academic background” is? Refute the facts Hajji.

          • hiernonymous

            Answer to question one: I do, obviously. Can’t you read?

            Answer to your second comment: there weren’t enough facts presented in his source to “refute.” It was a collection of vague hand-waves. It started with Sowell citing a guess that 5 people died for every slave successfully taken into captivity, a bit of big-hand math, and then a bland attribution of all of the subsequent ‘deaths’ to jihad. Hardly a rigorous methodology.

            Then it got worse. Another individual simply asserted that there were 50 million Christian ‘martyrs’ to jihad in Asia Minor. No breakdown of where the figure came from, no listing of wars or other events from which the figures were calculated, no indication whatsoever of just what, exactly, the “source” was talking about. That’s not an “impeccable source,” that’s a sophomore’s observation late in a beery discussion.

            I’ve never made the Hajj, I’m afraid. I’m not Muslim, and while I’ve been to Saudi Arabia on several occasions, I’m not adventurous enough to try to get inside the ring of Mecca. You must be thinking of someone else, if ‘thinking’ can be applied to your comment.

          • ziggy zoggy

            My academic background is untainted by the Marxist tools who ruled the universities I attended. American universities, not phony ones in sub-human Islamic countries.

            Thomas Sowell looks like an impeccable source.

          • hiernonymous

            Sowell’s a political writer; he specializes in conservative op-ed pieces. I’d want to see the underlying facts behind his interpretations before calling him a source, and he does no such thing in the brief piece cited.

            As for American universities, they run the spectrum in quality. Your comment doesn’t tell me much about your ability to identify and evaluate sources, but no matter – I wasn’t expected a responsive answer.

            As for “sub-human” Islamic countries, yes, that’s pretty typical bigotry. Demonize the objects of hatred, paint them as something less than human, so that when one recommends or carries out violence, it seems less like the moral failure that it is.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You can’t refute a single thing Sowell writes.

            American universities are staffed by Marxist ret@rds but under all the B.S. is a solid basis for education no islamopithecine country can offer a legitimate education.

            Hiding behind women and children, strapping bombs to their own children, gang raping women and little boys, flying planes into buildings, sawing people’s heads off on video, etc, are all sub-human practices. Islamopithecines are lower than paramecium $hit.

          • hiernonymous

            “You can’t refute a single thing Sowell writes.”

            Sowell didn’t write anything specific enough to be refuted. When you find something that lays out his sources and methods, we can examine them and refute them as appropriate.

            “American universities are staffed by Marxist ret@rds but under all the B.S. is a solid basis for education no islamopithecine country can offer a legitimate education.”
            You’re not even making sense. First, it’s not clear who you think got their education in a Muslim country (though your hatred apparently runs so deep that you can’t bring yourself to use the term Muslim). And you keep speaking in these vague terms. One American university is not the same as another; if you’re trying to discuss the adequacy of your own education, you’d probably have to discuss the specific institution.

            All the crimes you mention are horrible. Your problem is that you allow your bigotry to convince you that such crimes are representative of Islam as a whole, while crime committed in other areas are aberrations and not representative of their perpetrators’ beliefs. It’s this double standard that leads you to selectively ignore or distort history, in order to not disturb your world view.

            As just one example, Srebrenica is a perfect example of just the sorts of horrors you complained were subhuman – yet you blame the victims, not the perpetrators, because the Christian identity of the perpetrators doesn’t fit in with your message. That’s hypocritical, at best.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Go to religionofpeace.com for your answer. Then search in vain for Christian atrocities.

            By the way, thank you for affording us the chance to expose the evils of Islam and the depravity that drives some people to try and equate it with Christianity. We couldn’t have done it without you. Most people who read these comments do so passively and don’t comment themselves. You have unwittingly shown them the truth about Islam.

          • hiernonymous

            “Then search in vain for Christian atrocities.”

            Perhaps you should solicit the opinion of an Incan on that one. Or a survivor of Srebrenica. One of the Nez Perce, maybe? The St Bartholomew Day’s Massacre – was that imaginary?

            “You have unwittingly shown them the truth about Islam.”

            If you say so.

          • defcon 4

            Problem is allahtard, islam was demonstrably worse — especially in what they did in the Indian sub-continent and, more importantly, still are doing.

          • hiernonymous

            “Problem is allahtard, islam was demonstrably worse…”

            That’s not a problem. Zoggy insisted that I would search for Christian atrocities in vain; as you recognize, it was a moment’s work to identify several.

            If you want to deflect the conversation into a different direction and argue about which set of atrocities is worth, knock yourself out. You’ll need to come up with some sort of yardstick by which you measure atrocities, and then identify which atrocities you’re comparing.

            I think it’s a silly way to spend your time; there’s enough nastiness in every corner of the globe that we’re better off fixing what’s ours to fix, rather than persuading ourselves that we don’t need to clean our own act up as long as we can persuade ourselves that someone else is worse. That’s simply rationalization.

          • ziggy zoggy

            We don’t need to persuade ourselves that somebody else is worse. America is superior to all else and NOBODY is worse than an islamopithecine.

            Still waiting for a Christian atrocity list.

          • hiernonymous

            “Still waiting for a Christian atrocity list.”

            Why? You didn’t like that one provided two posts ago, or you didn’t recognize it? It’s hardly comprehensive, but it’s enough for our purposes.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Historical references have nothing to do with contemporary reality and none of the references you made had anything to do with Christianity. That is why hopeless lefties use them: Because there is no pogrom of Christian violence.

            Now acknowledge all the recorded Islamic atrocities for the day.

          • hiernonymous

            I’m only too happy to acknowledge atrocities by any perpetrator.

            Not sure why you keep ranting about “lefties.” I mean, I get the ad hominem and insulting purposes, but neither advance your argument or make sense in the context of what’s actually been said. Do you really understand the left-right spectrum and how it applies?

          • ziggy zoggy

            Are you claiming that she isn’t lying? Not a lefty? Not a sack of $hit? Not a detestable troll with the intellectual capacity of a a sophomore?

            Hmmm.

          • Silver Wolf aka JJ

            you seriously should not say that, considering you are accusing conservatives of being non accepting of other viewpoints. What are you going to do next, put your fingers in your ears and loudly proclaim “lalalala I can’t hear you.” Wake up, and grow up… BTW for your information I am not classified as white but as a Native American Cherokee with the eastern band, my best friend is a lesbian, and I am conservative.

          • defcon 4

            True enough. But what about the free university/college education offered to any native american in the USA? What about the native American tribal lands which are semi-autonomous (and some of which are rich beyond your wildest dreams)? Do you think any muslime state offers any of that to their persecuted religious minorities?

          • hiernonymous

            The public universities in Egypt are free, and are open to Christians as well as Muslims.

          • defcon 4

            Gee, I don’t believe you. Why? Because Coptic Christians are regularly persecuted and murdered (with impunity) in your favorite islam0nazi state.

          • hiernonymous

            “Gee, I don’t believe you. Why?”

            It doesn’t matter what you believe; your ability or willingness to deal with reality doesn’t change reality. Sorry, it doesn’t work like that. Egypt’s educational system is a matter of public record.

          • defcon 4

            Where’s your citation of fact? Surely you don’t think I’m going to believe your islam0nazi lies just because?

          • hiernonymous

            Actually, I was giving you credit for knowing a little something about the topics you offer opinions on. If you want to start your research after giving your opinion, you can do worse than to start here: http://www-db.in.tum.de/teaching/ws1112/hsufg/Egypt/Egypt/EducationSystem.html

            You can also peruse this paper on equality of access to the public universities: http://elizabethbuckner.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/buckner-he-in-egypt.pdf

            There’s also an article in al Arabiya that sheds light specifically on the issue of Copts. To understand it, you need to know that of the public universities in Egypt, one of them – al Azhar – is expressly religious. That is, unlike the other 18 Universities, al Azhar is an expressly Muslim institution teaching Islam. The article addresses a move by the faculty to prevent Christian students from attending. You’ll note that the faculty of the other Egyptian universities spoke out against this as unconstitutional – an odd position, indeed, if Christians were denied access to the public universities. http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/11/02/59359.html

            You were saying something about lies?

          • defcon 4

            NOthing like getting a free education of islam0nazi indoctrination — especially when you’re persecuted for being non-muslim.

          • hiernonymous

            One wonders how it would compare to your own education.

          • ziggy zoggy

            All you have to do is read his comments to know how it would compare. He is a free thinker, unlike islamopithecine and left-wing drones.

          • ziggy zoggy

            With sterling sources such as those, who can disagree? Maybe you could quote the unholy Koran to convince us?

          • ziggy zoggy

            Egyptians are some of the most ignorant people on Earth an Christians are hounded to death there.

            Try again.

          • hiernonymous

            Okay, let me call you on this one. What, exactly, do you know of Egypt? How do you know it?

          • defcon 4

            I know it’s illegal to teach the Coptic language. I know that the centuries old Jewish population of Egypt has been ethnically cleansed through islam0nazi persecution. I know Coptic Christians are persecuted as a matter of course.

          • hiernonymous

            That’s what you know about Egypt, eh? Not much of a basis for your opinion, but let’s leave that be for a moment. You missed the second part of the question: How do you know it? Where did you come by your knowledge of Egypt?

            One presumes that such a strongly worded opinion must have a wealth of knowledge and experience behind it.

          • ziggy zoggy

            They conceal information like that in books.

          • hiernonymous

            And that’s not a bad source, in itself, if you haven’t or couldn’t take the trouble to find out a bit about the place firsthand – depending on the books. Which ones did you read? Have you ever followed up with a visit, or are you an armchair expert on Egypt?

          • ziggy zoggy

            Egyptians are as ignorant and stupid as camel dung. Prove otherwise.

          • hiernonymous

            I’ve lived in Egypt. The people I knew were neither ignorant nor stupid. They’re just people.

            As for proving otherwise, well, I suppose that you could say that survival is the ultimate intelligence test, and Egypt has been around a few millenia longer than we have. Kind of hard to sneer at how stupid they are until we have a comparable track record.

            Still, even though you’ve never been to Egypt and don’t really know anything about it, I’m sure you’ve borrowed some really interesting opinions about the place.

          • Drakken

            You haven’t been there in 20 years and it has changed a lot since then, and yes the Copts are being systematically eliminated by the MB.

          • hiernonymous

            20 years? Where’d you get that?

          • Drakken

            From you.

          • hiernonymous

            Um – no.

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Of course, Muslims are always trying to convert non-Muslim infidels.

          • Silver Wolf aka JJ

            yeah sure free… ok.. and if you are not in the mainstream belief you live maybe one day… oooh but wait I am a woman so I can look forward to being raped and killed or put into slavery… Thanks but my response is a big NO!!

          • ziggy zoggy

            Bull$hit.

          • Silver Wolf aka JJ

            my point was simply that at least with The natives then for the most part have survived, and that they were not even dealing with a religion that demands the death of non believers back then, they were at least allowed the opportunity to keep their their own beliefs. If it happens to our current natives (Americans) again the believers of Islam will wipe out any and all that have any contradicting ideas or beliefs.(which is you, me, everyone non Muslim)

          • defcon 4

            SOrry I mis-understood you. At this point if the Native Americans want to re-assert their control of the USA I have no problem w/that — because the present US federal government is corrupt and rotten to the core.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Everything you wrote was demonstrably false and stupid, which is why you didn’t try to prove any of it. I’m still amazed that some people can be so full of $hit.

    • ObamaYoMoma

      Here you have it in a nutshell: a perfect example of the “journalism” on FrontPage. The author has clearly not even seen “The Muslims Are Coming” yet, because it hasn’t been released, or even reviewed – he’s just seen the trailer, and uses his own bigotries to concoct a screed.

      Uhm…actually the writer hasn’t been drinking the Kool-Aid the same way you have. Thus, he doesn’t have to see the movie to understand what it is all about. Very apparently he isn’t also as dumb as you are either, since he hasn’t attacked Christianity in a feeble attempt to not only absurdly claim invalidly like you that Christians are nearly as underhanded as Muslims, but also to insinuate that Christianity is somehow morally equivalent to Islam. Not to mention, that the long and disgraceful history of Marxism is far more atrocious than that of Christianity as well and about on a par with Islam, as both Marxism and Islam are actually very rabid forms of totalitarianism that aim to take over of the world.

      I hate to rain on your mentally incompetent parade, but Islam is not even a religion, as its first and foremost prerequisite is the total, complete, and unconditional submission to the “will of Allah” under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy of all Muslims. Indeed, what faith-based religions similarly compel faith via the total, complete, and unconditional submission under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy the same way that only Islam does? The answer, of course, is none of them, and that proves unequivocally that Islam is a very totalitarian cult as opposed to being a faith-based religion. Indeed, it’s not faith if the freedom of conscience is forbidden under the penalty of death.

      Furthermore, what is the “will of Allah” that all Muslims totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy? In essence it is Sharia, and Sharia is Islamic totalitarian law. As a matter of fact, the only freedom that Sharia allows is the freedom for Muslims to become more devout slaves of Allah.

      Moreover, according to the infamous sword verses of the Koran, together with the universally accepted throughout Islam doctrine of abrogation, the sole fundamental purpose of Islam is the subjugation of all religions and all infidels into Islamic totalitarianism through both violent and non-violent jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

      In addition, jihad is not only the highest pillar in which Islam stands; it is also a holy obligation incumbent upon all Muslims in one form or another. Thus, all Muslims are jihadists in one form or another. Otherwise, they are blasphemous apostates that must be executed per the texts and tenets of Islam. Indeed, Islam is extremely totalitarian as it strictly forbids the freedom of conscience under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy.

      As a matter of fact, all of the above is what Islam is trying to conceal via its absurd propaganda campaign, which is really taqiyya, i.e., dissimulation, and a form of stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad, as Islamophobia is just a transparent attempt to camouflage and hide the truth about Islam. Indeed, if any of the above I wrote is somehow bigoted in any way, then please, by all means, prove anything I said above is incorrect and wrong, and I will recant and also apologize to you. I promise.

      There you have it. And yes, there are many Christian comics working the “Christian circuit” – notably Brad Stine, who arrogantly calls himself “God’s Comic” and who isn’t really a comedian, he’s a preacher and right wing activist who wraps his cliche conservative rants in “jokes.”

      Indeed, what do you have against Christianity and Christians you bigot that you attack them for no good reason other than you hate Christianity because you view it as a threat to Marxism in a thread warning about the taqiyya that Islamophobia is? Seek mental help for your severe mental problems with paranoia you loon.

      He’s tied into the whole Liberty University/Glenn Beck/Fox News axis

      So what? What’s wrong with that? Nothing! Is it somehow illegal? Some how against the freedom of speech? I don’t believe? Indeed, you have a sick, sick, closeted and very totalitarian mind.

      and all of his “jokes” have a “point” you could easily put on a billboard in Texas.

      You are totally obsessed and completely consumed by hatred of Christianity and Christians. Not to mention that there isn’t nothing wrong with Texas either. Indeed, Obama’s weak and anemic unemployment rate would be far worse if not for Texas, which distorts the nation’s unemployment rate in Obama’s favor. You ought to be thankful to Texas you unhinged Marxist and extremely bigoted loon.

      And to state “there is far greater antagonism in the media and pop culture toward Christianity today than toward Islam” – paranoid Christian as victim nonsense.

      And your uncalled for and preemptive attack on Christians and Christianity for no good reason whatsoever isn’t a result of extreme paranoia and pure utter nonsense? Go look in a mirror, you moonbat!

      There is however, deserved antagonism towards extreme “Christian” leaders who try to turn America into a theocracy, rewrite history textbooks with “Biblical principles,” deny science, and take away the rights of citizens they don’t agree with.

      And look who was talking about paranoia? What about delusional leftwing Marxists like you that are helping to transform America into a Socialist/Marxist totalitarian state, while also not only destroying what made America great, but at the same time also helping to usher in the destruction of America as well. Only moonbats like you worship at the altar of Marxism. Be aware of what you wish for moonbat, because you may just get it. You low information voters are all extremely gullible useful idiots. And I hate to keep raining on your moonbat parade, but manmade global warming is nothing but junk science you loon, and it is you who preemptively attacks conservatives for just exercising their right to free speech. Give me a break you Marxist totalitarian barbarian!

      • Barbara D

        This reply should be copied, pasted and read aloud in every political science class as a prime example of why people simply cannot argue with today’s conservatives. They are not interested in debate – they are only interested in ramming their views down your throat – by brute force, if necessary, stifling the argument and silencing the opposition. This isn’t democracy, it’s fascism, the writer quickly resorting to infantile name calling to intimidate, using words like dumb, mentally incompetent, bigot, loon, sick, totalitarian, Marxist, moonbat, barbarian. And witness this statement, made in response to my description of the Christian comic:
        “Indeed, what do you have against Christianity and Christians you bigot that you attack them for no good reason other than you hate Christianity because you view it as a threat to Marxism in a thread warning about the taqiyya that Islamophobia is?”

        Talk about an overreaction – I was not attacking Christianity, I was describing a Christian comic who simply isn’t very funny because he makes political statements first and jokes second. This sadly is typical conservative overreaction, that any criticism whatsoever means whoever says it is a bigot and Marxist, intent on destroying their precious “values” and destroying America.
        Pretty pathetic, but typical.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          This reply should be copied, pasted and read aloud in every political science class as a prime example of why people simply cannot argue with today’s conservatives.

          I agree…that would be a perfect illustration of why you are so moronic.

          They are not interested in debate

          Not with moonbats so unhinged that they should be locked up in a straight jackets.

          This isn’t democracy, it’s fascism

          Says a fascist Marxist totalitarian. By the way, it’s impossible for a conservative small government guy to be a fascist. Indeed, learn what fascism really is.

          I was not attacking Christianity,

          Oh contraire…you were indeed attacking Christians and Christianity because you are an obsessed bigot. Go back and read your own damn words.

          This sadly is typical conservative overreaction

          Translation: Truth hurts!

          Pretty pathetic, but typical.

          And very true, nonetheless.

          • Barbara D

            Again – you hilariously prove my point with every word you write – and it even got worse, claiming I need a straight jacket. Keep going. Eventually, you’ll realize you’re pissing into the wind and retreat, exhausted, to the relative sanity of “Here Comes Honey Boo Boo.”

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Eventually, you’ll realize you’re pissing into the wind.

            Oh…I already knew that before I ever responded to you the first time. Anyway, can you explain to us inquiring minds just for the hell of it, what exactly led you to hating America and American values in the first place? Was it your upbringing

          • ObamaYoMoma

            Eventually, you’ll realize you’re pissing into the wind.

            Oh…I already knew that before I ever responded to you the first time. Anyway, can you explain to us inquiring minds just for the heck of it, what exactly led you to hating America and American values in the first place? Was it your upbringing?

          • defcon 4

            It just occurred to me that Honey Boo Boo is of marriageable age in nearly all your islam0nazi cesspools.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Again – you hilariously prove your stupidity, dishonesty, incompetence and hatred with every word you write. Typical leftist. Like all moonbats, you dodge the substance of every condemnation of your pathetic arguments and simply sling calumny in response.

            Just go back to street corner B.J.s for a living. By the end of the day you may be able to afford a bowlful of crack.

          • Barbara D

            Once again, I am proven right – conservatives can only resort to name calling. Conservatives have no arguments, except alleged intimidation, gun slinging, and fisticuffs.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You can chant your deceitful mantra till you’re blue in the face. It doesn’t matter. Your regurgitated left-wing memes have been refuted with substance and style. Insulting a contemptible little troll turd like you is just an added bonus.

            Once again you are PROVED wrong, you illiterate FUCKTARD.

          • Barbara D

            “Fucktard” is about the apt level of conservative argument.

        • ziggy zoggy

          Like all hardcore leftists, you are projecting your hypocrisy. Out of all the idiotic comments you’ve shat here, you are yet to engage in honest debate. You’ve just been pasting the official DNC memes that even the stupidest trolls here usually avoid. Every phony accusation you make about conservatives describes lefties to a T. T for troll.

          Your claim that islamopithecines are promoting anything but supremacism through victimization claims is ridiculous because you leotards do the same thing constantly. You haven’t seen the movie so you need to STFU and stop spreading hypocrisy.

          Here’s a thought. Why don’t you actually address the points made

          • ziggy zoggy

            Instead of tossing out stale leftist canards as the usual distraction. I know you only charge one dollar in food stamps or some chewed gum for your services but just pretend that the people you’re propositioning actually have standards.

        • ziggy zoggy

          Conservatives, conservatives, conservatives. As usual, your invalid description for the dreaded conservatives is a perfect match for lefties and their pathology.

          Leftism really is a mental disorder.

    • Kevin Yates

      wow, you are an angry one aren’t you?

  • LaughingArab

    Please tell ALL your friends about this movie. Holler it at your neighbors, tell your mailman, write your congressman. Call your mom, text your girlfriend, mention it to your kid’s teacher. Bitch and complain about it on top of rooftops on every building in your town. Don’t forget to call Fox News and other bloggers and journalist to make sure they know about it too.
    Because while you idiot bigots are sitting there typing at a computer screen about this movie, Dean and Negin will be enjoying all this fantastic free publicity.

    • defcon 4

      LOL, yeah and your fellow islam0nazis will continue raping, persecuting and murdering the najjis kaffir worldwide, because islam is a religion of peace ain’t it Hajji? Isn’t it time for your camel urine cocktail?

      • StillLaughingArab

        Thank you for proving my point. I am not a Muslim.

        • ziggy zoggy

          StillMasturbating Arab, Your point is ret@rded and false. This stupid movie will flop worse than you do when you toss a salad.

          • LaughingArab

            My point of not being a Muslim is false? Wow, you are even more of an idiot then deacon 4. Arabs can be Jews or Christian. What a dumb statement YOU made!

          • ziggy zoggy

            You’re so fucking stupid you don’t even understand your own comments. You really do drink camel urine, don’t you? Arab Jews. Hilarious. You’re an intelligent ret@rd.

          • LaughingArab

            I don’t understand my own comments? You are unable to form compete sentences. Nor are you able to make an intelligent statement without the use of curse words, which leads me to believe that not only did you not finished high school, you do not appear to have a significant other to correct your language.

            Scream and curse all you want, the POINT I was trying to make was that I found out about this movie from this article that a relative (yes I do have one as pathetic as you) posted about this article. Now I am going. I was trying to encourage you to share it more ( which obviously has happened considering the numbers for FB, Twitter, and Share went up significantly since yesterday.

            So, my point will continue to be proven with ever person that does as I ask and share this with as many people as possible. Keep sharing!!!!!! Well except for Ziggy, who obviously doesn’t have anyone.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You am smart. Drink um camel pee is good! It gots electrolytes!

            Your point is that you are a pea-brained leftist fellow traveler of the death cult of Islam and that you are too stupid to understand that this movie is a subject of ridicule. As pathetic as you are, even you won’t see this movie. Not that you live in one of the three cites it’s set to flop in, anyway.

            Glad to hear you have a partner. After Achmed goes jihad on your brown eye (not the one that winks, the one that stinks,) you can toss his salad out of culturally diverse appreciation.

          • DoneWithYouArab

            The movie was brilliant and the theater packed. After sharing the article with my friends, we were a group of 12 that attended. I can’t even tell you how happy my friends and I were to have found this article.

            Please please keep sharing with your friends. This movie is going to do very well. If you’d like to see it in your hometown, visit http://www.tugg.com to request it.

            Good luck!

          • ziggy zoggy

            Good luck getting ANYBODY to believe the lies you just posted. You did not see the movie and you don’t even live in one of the cities it flopped in. Your lies are transparent and laughable. Give that Cleveland steamer a tug, you chomo.

    • bill reitzes

      Would you care to share your ideas about the ongoing Holy War that we are seeing in Syria?

      • LaughingArab

        Thank you also for proving my point about idiots. Only an idiot would assume that a) I would respond to a comment that has nothing to do with my previous comment, and b) also assume the movie and Syria are related, because well, they both have Muslims in them, right?

        • ziggy zoggy

          You just DID respond to his comment, you unmitigated idiot. And you were too fucking stupid to understand it. Go eat a chili dog.

          • LaughingArab

            So, should I assume that you are too stupid to realize that I actually did not respond to his question about Syria?

          • defcon 4

            Duh, nothing like stating the obvious. Where did you get your master’s degree? Islamabad U?

          • ziggy zoggy

            Right. It was some other @$$ monkey named MasturbatinganArab. Really. Do you have to make this so easy, junior? Go rub some lube on your lips. Achmed is calling.

        • bill reitzes

          I respectfully asked you a question that I was wanting to ask a Muslim.
          You can choose to answer my question or choose not to answer, but implying that I’m an idiot and not answering show’s that the following comments, made by others may be true.
          Yes, in both the movie and Syria, there are Muslims.
          Some are apparently funny (in the movie) and some are intolerant like the I in Muslim.
          Your choice my friend

  • tagalog

    I’m guessing the gross for the movie is going to be pretty low, at least for the U.S. movie audience.

    • LaughingArab

      Considering the movie has sold out performances in the theaters it’s opening this weekend, I’m saying (notice I didn’t say ‘guessing’) you are wrong. And considering I found out about this movie (and will be attending) from this article, ironically this aricle is helping bringing in audiences! So be sure to Share it more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • defcon 4

        I’ll bet you think the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a historically accurate document don’t you?

      • ziggy zoggy

        Sold out, my @$$. I don’t believe you’re going to see it, either. Just troll talk.

  • Don Carlson

    Did Moore have anything to do with this movie?

  • defcon 4

    I’ve watched some of the muslime “comedians” schtick. The schtick is very careful to leave islam looking pretty, tolerant and peaceful, but denigrates western civilisation in the crude, knuckle dragging fashion that all dirtbag lieberals enjoy.

  • Sarah Pesto

    This country was founded on the beliefs that all men are created equal, sadly, like the 10 Commandments, they have time and time again been disobeyed. First with slavery and continuous xenophobia and hate of homosexuals. These have all been brought on by the mind sets of ignorant bigots like you, Mark.

    • defcon 4

      Are you too stupid or too ignorant to see your own hypocrisy? Guess which states have legalized slavery in the 21st century (Mauritania and the Sudan)? Guess which countries not only persecute homosexuals but execute them for it (Iran and Afghanistan)? Try having a gay pride parade in Tehran, Riyadh, Gaza City, Somalia, Jordan, Damascus, Iraq or anywhere in N. Africa. In the 1960′s, Saudi Arabia STILL had PUBLIC slave auctions. Islam was, and still is, the supply side of slavery. Turkey is reportedly the capital of the sex slave trade in Europe. Muslime states systematically persecute anyone non-muslim, if that’s not xenophobia what it? You point the finger of accusation at Mark Tapson, yet you’re the fool.

      • Sarah Pesto

        Don’t call me stupid. I’m not ignorant of all those. I’m just appalled that America (and I don’t hate American. I love America, just disappointed) from the beginning, since trying to instill a “free” country has ripped the freedom away from people. We should know better than that and ashamed of ourselves. We drove the Native Americans from their land, cruely, instead of befriending them (they have so much to teach us), enslaved black people, lynched thousands even after slavery was overruled, also dividing them in schools, bathrooms, buses, etc. and now has robbed the unborn of their life. It’s scary, but I don’t know if God is too pleased with all of this. Oh and there is sex slavery in this country as well. We must fast and pray hard to overturn that and continually ask God to forgive our sins.

    • Robert Lande

      A bigot is someone who is intolerant of others’ beliefs. The best example of bigots that I can think of is the Democratic party. They are incapable of an intelligent discussion and hurl insults at anyone who disagrees with them. They are very shallow people.

      • Sarah Pesto

        Really, well, that is your opinion and I respect that. Oh and need I say, I deeply hate Roe V Wade. Babies are being killed on a day to day basis. I joined the democratic party because I was seeing a little insanity on the part of the Republicans and also disappointed that they have not even made an attempt, while in Office, to overturn that evil murder.

        • ziggy zoggy

          Uh,……Democrats RUN on an infanticide platform. Obama is the worst of the lot. If you care about the baby holocaust you need to vote Republican. If Republicans had theower they would overturn Roe Vs Wade. The Dems want to EXPAND it. And seriously, how could the Repubs possibly be more insane than the Dems and their P.C. anti-American platform? You are misguided

          • Sarah Pesto

            Just out of curiosity. What are your conclusions that I am indeed a democrat?

          • ziggy zoggy

            Your unhinged comments. Go ahead. Tell me you aren’t a Demorat. We both know you are.

          • Sarah Pesto

            The republicans could have put a priority into that instead of invading Iraq.

          • defcon 4

            A muslime cries about Iraq, but has nothing to say about W. Papua New Guinea or Cyprus.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Obama expanded the war theater from Iraq and Afghanistan to Pakistan, Yemen, Libya and now Syria.

            Iraq was ruled by a terrorist funding, murder happy rapist. Do you miss the other Hussein?

      • Sarah Pesto

        Also. Mr. Tapson and all of you are intolerant of Muslim beliefs and that is what makes you bigots.

        • ziggy zoggy

          So we are bigots because we don’t tolerate genocide, rape, child molestation, slavery, gays phobia, thievery, deceit, xenophobia, stupidity, ignorance, goat humping and drinking camel urine?

          Are you fucking serious?

    • ziggy zoggy

      Continuous xenophobia? Tell that to the 30 million wetback colonists that the government let into this country in the latest wave and wants to give amnesty. And how does America practice hatred against homosexuals? Could you explain why you think you are more knowledgable than Mark Tapson or why he is a bigot for disliking the genocidal, raping, thieving, lying, child abusing, pedophiliac, racist, XENOPHOBIC and HOMOPHOBIC cult of Islam?

      Seriously. You lefties delude yourselves when you think people disagree with your warped views out of ignorance and bigotry. We do so out of knowledge and prudence.

      • Sarah Pesto

        OMG, Ziggy Zoggy. Did I really say I think he is a bigot for disliking, genocide, rape, thieves, lying, child abuse, or pedophilia? NO. I HATE all those things as well and as to his intelligence, he is probably a very smart man. Just a little misguided about Islam, which was probably instilled in him by birth.

        • ziggy zoggy

          How is he misguided about the stone aged death cult of Islam and how does that make him a bigot? Everything I wrote about Islam is a 1400 year old tradition and 100% Muhammad and Koran approved. Fact.

        • defcon 4

          “Misguided about islam”? Move to an islamic state then. ANY of of them. Wear a prominent crucifix or kippah when you do. Then try publicly repudiating the systematic persection of anyone non-muslim or gay. Put your money where your mouth is.

      • defcon 4

        It might interest you to know that anyone hispanic/latino has practically an open door to immigrate to Spain, because Spain is being flooded w/scum of a certain religious outlook that is incompatible w/democracy, freedom or liberty.

        • ziggy zoggy

          They should go. Especially the ones here Spain is broke but the handouts never end, and at least most Mexicans would actually work. I’ve always thought that waves of Latin Catholics was the easiest way to destroy Islam demographically. They are busy doing it in the Black heIIholes of LA and they would be even more relentless against islamopithecine supremacists. And unlike those cowards, Mexicans will actually stand and fight.

        • Drakken

          Where is Franco when you really need him. At least while he was alive he kept the rif raf out.

  • katarina broman

    A Phobia is an irrelevant fear of something that really isn´t dangerous, or can be easily avoided. Such as heights, flying, being in a crowd etc etc. It can be cured by a Therapist. However that doesn´t apply to Islam, since Islam is a real threat and we don´t seem to be able to get away from it, and therefore there is no such thing as Islamophobia! Simples!

    • sarthurk

      Islamaphobia is doublespeak for non compliance with the new politically correct liberal language.
      Islamaphobia is not some psycholgical manifestation. When these inbred murdering maniacs say they are going to follow the Q’uran and kill infidels or else, that is pure fear.
      I say, kill ‘em all, and save the planet. I’m not afraid!

      • sarthurk

        After all, they’ve proven it, even against their own just to make a political point. That’s what terrorism is.

  • someone smarter than this guy

    you make a valid point that there are subsections of islam that are violent and antithetical to the west, however islam culturally and religiously is more complicated than you give it credit for. muslims like christians and americans cannot be painted with one brush, and it seems to me you want to focus on that subsect rather than looking at the conversation in a more holistic fashion because it supports your pre concieved notions and means u don’t actually have to educate yourself. also what you are basically saying is you want to have the right to market christianity and make people more christian friendly as it were, with christian comedians, but you don’t want muslims to be allowed to do the same. to summise your point, “islam is dangerous and bad, anyone who presents a more nuanced or complicated way of looking at it is nieve unless they are christian in which case its fine, because christians are good and i agree with them”

    • Infovoyeur

      Fine, except that “moderate” etc. muslims are (1) today ineffective against the jihadists, (2) tomorrow will be esp. vulnerable to them.
      Also, it’s not what a religion says or teaches (Biblical literalism etc.), but what is being done in its name if such is savage-barbaric threat to civilization. Thus, see the big picture as you recommend but then act to preserve the good from the evil.

    • defcon 4

      LOL, “subsections”. Your whitewashing of islam can’t cover up rising tide of bloodshed all committed in the name of islam, in the 21st century alone. Gee, and ALL muslime states persecute people of other faiths without exception. Let’s see you lie around that last fact asshat.

    • Drakken

      Islam is islam and wherever islam goes the blood always flows without exception. You can play at semantics until your blue in the face but the bottom line is, islam is at war with the west and our ideals and culture, and frankly no matter the stripe of islam, it a direct threat to us infidels, period, so to hell with the broad brush, dump the entire bucket of paint on the savages and let nature take its course.

    • 11bravo

      The average American citizen’s eyes are wide open to the nature of Islam. Just like the elitist CO dems, the politicians ignore the opinions, and wishes of the people. In 2014 they will get what those faux Coloradoans got.

      • ziggy zoggy

        I sure hope so. Especially considering how much time the Obamahdi has left to “fundamentally transform America.”

    • ziggy zoggy

      Nice try at misdirection, @$$wipe. islam absolutely is “painted with one brush” ( fuck, I hate it when retards use metaphors to describe reality instead of fiction) so it doesn’t matter what different Islamopithecines say or do. They are all commanded to subjugate or murder all non-islamopithecines and impose totalitarian sharia law. Every single islamopithecine is a terrorist time bomb waiting to go off.

      You are one of millions of stupid, ignorant, left-wing enablers for that vile cult. Islam is cruder than any pagan religion and a million times more violent. Go fuck yourself in a holistic fashion. I’m sick of scum like you polluting my country.

  • Gee

    I was sent this

    Funny, its ok to make jokes about Catholics, the Pope, Jews, Christians, the Irish, the Italians, the Polish, Mexican Immigrant (illegal) etc etc, but its insensitive to make jokes about Muslims.

    The sooner we are all on same level playing field the better.

    Jeff Foxworthy on Muslims:

    1. If you refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to liquor,
    You may be a Muslim.

    2. If you own a £3,000 machine gun and a £5,000 rocket launcher, but you can’t afford shoes,
    You may be a Muslim.

    3. If you have more wives than teeth,
    You may be a Muslim.

    4. If you wipe your bum with your bare hand but consider bacon to be unclean,
    You may be a Muslim.

    5. If you think vests come in two styles: Bullet-proof and suicide.
    You may be a Muslim

    6. If you can’t think of anyone you haven’t declared jihad against,
    You may be a Muslim.

    7. If you consider television dangerous but routinely carry explosives in your clothing,
    You may be a Muslim.

    8. If you were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs,

    You may be a Muslim.

    9. If you have nothing against women and think every man should own at least four,
    You may be a Muslim.

    10. If you find this offensive or racist and don’t forward it,
    You may be a Muslim.

    • Jenanne Johnson

      lmao toooooo funny :) ;)

  • Juaniita

    we have everything to fear about Muslims. Any faith that tells you to kill someone that is not of your faith is deadly and must not be tolerated! For the safety of America we should not let anyone in from Muslim countries!!

  • defcon 4

    Here’s what the amoral liberal critics of the MSM are saying about THe Muslims Are Coming:

    Honor killings…hilarious! Rape of non-muslim women…funny! Persecution of anyone non-muslim…a laugh riot! Murder of the najjis kaffir…guffaw! Rabid Jew hatred…LOL! The mandatory lashings for drinking alcohol or being w/a man not your husband or immediate family member will leave you in stitches! To say nothing about the public mass hangings for being homosexual! Watch out for the low flying sorcerors and witches! I loved the freewheeling nature of the religious police!

    • bill reitzes

      Great comment.
      The part about “stiches” was the best. Brought a smile to my face.
      Cheers

      • defcon 4

        Thanks.

  • DontMessWithAmerica

    Because like Obama, they
    can’t stop pushing, the day will come in America when thousands of innocent
    Muslims will pay for the sins of the Jihadists like the promoters of this
    propaganda and CAIR and the various Saudi and Muslim Brotherhood front
    organizations. Americans have been blind to the reality of their evil and
    their intent but as they keep pushing more and more Americans are getting
    perspective and there will be a movement that will make the Inquisition seem like
    a birthday party. The Muslims will be going and will never come again.

    • 11bravo

      BINGO!!
      We aren’t Europeans but our leaders, and politicians seem to be. Their cowardice now will cost the lives of thousands of Muslims and some Americans.
      This isn’t hard to figure out.

      • 1Indioviejo1

        But when?

        • 11bravo

          < 50years.

        • Drakken

          An egregious incident that is local and snowballs from there. The time is here and now.

    • 1Indioviejo1

      I applaud you. But, Innocent Muslims? If you are born into Islamo-fascism and don’t denounce it by 18 you condone it. If you follow a pedophiliac, genocidal murderer and rapist as your prophet are you innocent?

  • herb benty

    Islam’s goal is world domination using anything they can get their hands on. And now comedy. Maybe, as the Muslims numbers swell, and they start raping American women like in Sweden( 1 in 4 indiginous Swedish women are RAPED by Muslim immigrants!), America may wake up, but the “left” will probably continue to hit the snooze button- traitors!

    • laura rubin

      if the feral black muderous mobs are not being stopped, what makes you think you will be protected from the jihadists? christian jewish white folks are meaningless unless you are rich & influencial…….its over. either we will die out, or they will do that job earlier. sorry to rain on your parade. as much as i love robert spencer pam geller etc, its too little too late.

      • herb benty

        Laura, that defeatist attitude has to go. This is still America and Canada and most citizens are armed, at least where I live. We don’t need the government to “protect us”. Jihadists, if they got all rowdy here, would be killed off fairly quickly and the murderous “feral”( good one!) black mobs will find that as their, ” Oh they are just kids getting carried away”, cover is exposed, that the mobs and lone wolf killers will be met with a wall of bullets. The Almighty God of Israel is real, He is comforting and rejoicing with the victims of persecution, pogroms and the Shoa right now. We win Laura, even if it doesn’t seem like it. He intervenes this time and destroys evil and evil people permanently. No tears in Heaven. So…..chin up and gird yourself for what is coming. Amen.

        • laura rubin

          i was encourged for a while, but somehow i thnk its bigger than we are. i spend too much time on the internet reading the negative reports. studied rise of nazis, stalin etc. i think this is the modern version the form is different, but the content is similar. as long as the average person is in lala land, they will win. agree about being armed, thank you for your positive input.

          • herb benty

            Laura, I have a cabin in the Rockies. I am positive about our Maker, it’s what those Progs do in the meantime that has me concernd. It’s still too early to pack up the family though. Talk the truth to the low-info’s should be our priority. Thank you!!

  • Ian

    The documentary’s point is that not all Muslims are terrorists – some of them are hilarious! Yeah they are hilarious terrorists….

  • iluvisrael

    I learned all I need to know about muslims on 9/11.

    • LaughingArab

      I learned all I need to know about Israel from the Jewish Defense League, classified by the FBI as a terrorist group also in 2001! It’s amazing how we got our correct information about labeling an entire race/religion/country as terrorist in the same year.

      • ziggy zoggy

        You are a lying sack of skinhead $hit. Go shoot some meth while you’re waiting for your welfare payment.

        • LaughingArab

          Actually I hold a Masters degree and have been on my same job position, as a contributing member of my community, for the past 18 years.

          I have never tried meth, nor would even know what to do with it if it was handed to me. But the fact that you would bring it up leads me to think that maybe you have some next to you and that is why it is on your mind?!?

          And I am not lying, nor a skinhead, whatever that is. You are welcome to look it up about the JDL. You will need to go to Google or Bing to do this. I would not recommend using your picture books as they might easily distract you.

          • iluvisrael

            If you’re a good muzzy you practice taqiya – lying for your moongod allah

          • LaughingArab

            I have already mentioned I am not a Muslim. Since you are an idiot, it looks like I have to bring it up yet again.

          • iluvisrael

            I don’t give a rat’s behind what you are. Your obsession with the marginalized, tiny and not too active JDL proves your selective outrage – very popular among Jew haters. I stand by my comments.

          • defcon 4

            We all think you’re lying, as muslimes are prone to do…badly.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Masters degree? LOL! Baiting hooks isn’t a degree or a career, short bus. Stop drinking the bong water. If you get any dumber you’ll get dropped from special Ed to extra special Ed and your mommy will have to spend extra time cleaning your diapers. And just when you almost made it to training pants!

          • Silver Wolf aka JJ

            I was gonna guess that laughingArab has a Masters in Socialism, and grocery shopping with government help is not exactly contributing to society.

      • iluvisrael

        Look around the world moron – just about all the trouble spots have one thing in common – moslems. I know the truth hurts. The world is onto the bloodthirsty savagery that is islam.

        • LaughingArab

          Listen, my point was that you can’t take one instance (which was the OP comment), and base an entire opinion of a race/country/race on it. Now, if you’d like to continue the conversation about each our false beliefs based on singular instances (again, as your mention of 9/11), I would be happy to continue. However, calling my beliefs moronic only proves that your beliefs are moronic, since I took the same sentence and substituted a few words. I know the truth hurts about the JDL, however, it was decided by the FBI, so you might want to take it up with them.

          • defcon 4

            Yeah, we shouldn’t judge muslimes on their long and continuing history of atrocities and persecution committed in the name of your death cult. Go suck some camel urine Ahmed, direct from the source.

          • LaughingArab

            If the OP had commented on a “long and continuing history”, I would be able to understand your comment, but since it wasn’t, it just proves that you are an idiot.

          • defcon 4

            Camel urine, it’s prophet recommended and prophet approved. Drink some today.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You couldn’t understand a nursery rhyme, which is why you pretend that Islam isn’t violent to the core. I think you should STOP drinking camel urine. The camels are complaining.

          • iluvisrael

            The JDL is a tiny fringe group – rabid foaming at the mouth muslims is mainstream – that’s why the ‘palestinians’ name streets after murderers.

          • defcon 4

            You’ve read about the mysterious deaths of Irv Rubin and the other convicted leaders of the JDL right? For some reason I think the suicides they’re supposed to have died from were assisted.

          • ziggy zoggy

            The same FBI that punished an agent for noticing some of the 911 hijackers were learning to fly passenger planes but not land them? That FBI? The FBI that wandered around Benghazi with their thumbs up their @$$e$ while some of the terrorists who murdered Embassy staff and two SEALS were sipping iced lattes in outdoor cafes and giving interviews? That FBI? The FBI that refused to investigate Tamerlane Tsjerkoff after he went to Chechnya for terrorist training? That FBI? The FBI that is controlled by the terrorist loving, Jew hating Obama administration? That FBI?

            Just to be clear.

          • GottaQHFilly

            Yes you can.

          • laura rubin

            over 24,000 violent muslim “incidents” since 9/11. maybe you should look into that.

      • Jenanne Johnson

        gee and I learned all I need to know about Islam from seeing what they promote doing to women who dont follow the rules of the Qur’an like here http://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/muslims-earn-sweden-the-title-of-rape-capital-of-the-world/ or here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23631395 OH and lets not forget what they do to their own women http://grumpyelder.com/2011/12/denying-the-reality-of-islamic-brutality/ and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhMNpdzzc8k

        • LaughingArab

          That is really crazy, as I also have a long list of links showing wrongs committed by Jews, white men, Nigerians, Hawaiians, and your mother (which is pretty obvious). But why bother, as you won’t click to them.
          I’ve never been on this site before, but I’m really surprised at the lack of educational levels in these comments.
          Do any of you even own a dictionary? Or did you throw them all out for gun space? Now $20 that someone will comment about taking me out with a gun as you bunch are the most predictable bunch of idiots on the planet.
          Oh, and for those keeping score, the FB share button is almost at 1,000, so keep sharing!!!! Make sure you keep sending your friends the link to this article! You never know how many people might go see it only because they saw this article, like me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Jenanne Johnson

            my mother really? The last time I checked my mother never committed any crime, not even a traffic ticket. As far as educational level I am currently working on Masters then PhD in Abnormal Psychology. (Have I mentioned I also help out with rape and trauma victims). Oh and BTW to be technical I am classified as a Native American from the Eastern Band of Cherokee.

          • Silver Wolf aka JJ

            listen is that crickets I hear?? wow having trouble arguing with another intellectual minority that is NOT a liberal Mr Laughing Arab. Oh darn, (slaps forehead) I forgot people like you do not believe women should be educated..

          • LaughingArab

            I didn’t respond because I was at the movie, laughing.

            I am not a male, so your assumptions of me lead me to believe that even the “educated” people on this page are also idiots.

            Since it’s become increasing difficult to talk to idiots, I’m moving on. It’s been great fun, and again, please please share this page. I’m praying the movie does well in it’s showings today and next week. And for those that are not idiots and you’d like to see it in your home town, the directors were telling us that you can go to http://www.tugg.com to requests showing. Good luck!

            Thanks all, it sure has been crazy seeing how the other half live.

          • Silver Wolf aka JJ

            You know they teach us in Psych that to try to argue with someone who is morally and psychologically inept with a adolescent emotional level is like trying to beat your head against the wall to bring it down, has no effect and only gives you a headache… Thank you so very much for proving them right..

          • Silver Wolf aka JJ

            My mother really?? The last I checked my mom has not committed any crime, much less a traffic ticket. As for educational level, I am currently finishing my Masters then continuing on to PhD in the field of Abnormal Psychology so yes I own a dictionary many in fact including medical. (I also help with rape and trauma victims.) BTW to be technical I am classified as a Native American directly with the Eastern Band of Cherokee and my best friend is a lesbian (now who is generalizing?) How does that foot taste? Oh and just to politely let you know name calling and attacking my mother is an obvious sign of adolescence.

          • defcon 4

            What the else do you expect from a lying muslime trying to defend islam? Insults and fallacies of argumentation are all he’s got — at least until him and his fellow muslime brethren can have us all arrested and imprisoned for criticising the religion of peace.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Yes, because there is a worldwide organized effort by dem Joos, Whitey, Nigerians, Hawaiians and mommies to subjugate and murder all others, you hopeless ret@rd. being a leftist means never knowing how stupid you are when you try to be clever.

            The people who saw this link are more likely to get a dirty Sanchez than watch an islamopithecine stealth jihad movie, like you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Black__Mamba

            Needs more exclamation points. People with high “educational levels” always use dozens and dozens and dozens of exclamation points.

      • defcon 4

        LOL, yeah it’s funneh that Jews aren’t allowed in Soddy Barbaria isn’t it? Or that everyone not a f’ing muslime is persecuted in all your islam0barbarian states?

        • LaughingArab

          Sorry, was any of that English? Do you even know what a verb is? Or maybe a noun? What grade level have you completed?

          • iluvisrael

            Wear a Jewish star or crucifix and try to get in saudi arabia – see what happens birdbrain.

          • LaughingArab

            Ahhh, so you too have continued with the cursing. Or at least a half assed attempt. Good job taking your discussion down to a children’s school yard level. Who even says that anymore? Well, except for idiots, I suppose.

            Wearing a star or crucifix anywhere is not going to do anything about my opinion. If you want to change my views of Israel, you’ll need to talk to the JDL.

            There is no need for me to change your views about Muslims since I am not one and could care less what you think of them. And if I did, you would miss all your idiot friends on here too much anyway.

            Since you talking to the JDL is not happening anytime soon, I’ll be on my way off this site back to my Israel hating life. Good luck writing a response to me sceaming from your school yard.

          • defcon 4

            What does the JDL have to do w/Israel? Oh, that’s right nothing. Except in your delusional muslime mind.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Do you beat off to Osama Bin Laden photos or Obama Bin Laden? How are the magnifying glass and tweezers working out for you?

          • ziggy zoggy

            What grade level have you completed? I’m asking about your educational level, not your pedophile level.

    • defcon 4

      The SIXTY years of unending islamic terrorism in Israel and the Indian sub-continent speak just as loudly, and G-d knows how many Hindus, Sikhs and Jews are dead because of it.

  • Seek

    The Islamic threat, in other words, in just in our heads. These guys really are comedians, though not in the way intended.

  • tanstaafl

    Nothing like slaughtering infidels to make a real laugh-fest!

  • ziggy zoggy

    Colin Quinn is one of the usual suspects? Since when, Tapson? Watch any episode of “Tough Crowd With Colin Quinn” on YouTube or wherever and tell me that again. I don’t know what these scumbags got him to say in the commentary but he’s anything but a lefty and he slams Islam regularly. I could believe he might stand up for fellow comedians, but stand up for Islam? I’ll believe it when I see it – which I’m sure I never will.

    • LaughingArab

      Yes, you never will. Because rational thinking (“Wow, Colin said that really? Where? I want to hear and see it myself to be 100% sure as I’m know he slams Islam regularly,”) would never be something that would enter your brain.

      You have a hate brain that does not think rationally (” Wow, Colin said that really? Now I must go and speak ill of him as I would never in a million years hear what he has to say himself. I will completly rely on heresy! Those directors must really have some power to get him to do something he would never do.”). Exactly like the “author” of this article.

      The more interactions I read of yours here, the more I realize I’m actualy communicating with someone that, in reality, is possibly on the spectrum.

      • defcon 4

        For a muslime to complain about hate and bigotry is a typical low in mendacious hypocrisy. All the holey texts of islam are full of Jew hate and anti-Christian bigotry, as well as for the unbeliever.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Could you run that comment through a translation program? I don’t speak Ret@rd.

  • Gene Schallert

    We do not need or want this type of so called entertainment.

  • GottaQHFilly

    I would be happy to throw a bucket of pig blood on them. HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Sarah Pesto

    You all are psychotic! Get help! You probably would have been standing before Pontius pilot 2013 years ago and shouting “crucify Jesus”. You are all hypocritical zealots and Pharisees. Very evil people who are intolerant and full of hate. May God have mercy on your souls. This entire Frontpage Magazine wreaks of the devil’s unholy stench!

    • defcon 4

      Then move to any islamic state dolt. Where you’ll NEVER hear, read or see any criticism of your favorite death cult ever again.

  • Sarah Pesto

    LONG LIVE PRESIDENT OBAMA! FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES!!!!!

    • Black__Mamba

      Honey, didja ever think that maybe you should be electing a President based on something other than race? I mean, it’s not the Miss Universe pageant. It’s kind of an important, serious job.

      (Also, needs more CAPITALS!!!!!)

      • Sarah Pesto

        I think he is an AWESOME president. He’s smart and has his head on straight. It is a miracle that we have a black president. Just like Martin Luther King Jrs. dream. I’m sure he is looking down and smiling. Look at all the accomplishments we have acheived. It is a MIRACLE! PRAISE GOD!

        • Black__Mamba

          The debt’s at nearly seven trillion, Putin just humiliated Barack without even trying, you’ve got ruinous European-type healthcare now, you’re in a recession that’s going to get worse, and America is barely a serious power anymore.

          There’s no evidence Barry is smart. His ghastly wife (as I never tire of pointing out because I find it fascinating) is not fluently literate***. A smart man doesn’t tend to marry a stupid woman unless she’s young and pretty, so I find Barry’s choice of a spouse quite telling.

          He’s also a corrupt, Constitution-despising, race-baiting, abortion-promoting narcissist. Voting is a serious business. People who aren’t serious shouldn’t vote. You shouldn’t vote for someone because “gosh, wouldn’t that be nice, to have a black president! I’m such a tolerant person.”

          ***Here is a typical passage from her Princeton thesis in Victimology Studies: “By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desparation of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to their plight.” As you can no doubt tell, it isn’t written in recognizable English.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Wookies don’t speak English.

        • Black__Mamba

          And I’ll add that King, although he certainly was a hero in some ways, plagiarized much of his thesis and liked hookers. A trait I find offputting in a Baptist minister, don’t you?

          • Sarah Pesto

            Take some medication why don’t ya and chill out. Geez…

          • Sarah Pesto

            That goes for the majority of people on this site as well. You are all highly neurotic!!!

          • defcon 4

            You are the weakest link.

          • Sarah Pesto

            You’re biceps are HUGE! Kiss me!

          • defcon 4

            You’ll have to find a goat, dancing boy or little girl for that.

          • ziggy zoggy

            My biceps have always been huge and I won’t kiss you.

          • Black__Mamba

            That’s quite the clever rebuttal. I don’t see how anyone here could hope to match wits with you.

          • Sarah Pesto

            Nyuk!! Nyuk! Nyuk! I ate a big red candle!

          • Black__Mamba

            A favorite (female) blogger of mine likes to say that women shouldn’t vote. (Personally, I think a competency test at the voting booth would be adequate. Quick, name five SC Justices. No peeking.)

            You’re why.

          • Sarah Pesto

            I love it when you talk sexy.

          • Black__Mamba

            I can see how you’re trying to be all irreverent and sassy there, dear. But I’m a woman too. And, honestly, I’m sick of shallow low-info flibbirtygibbets like you making people assume we’re all bubbleheaded, illogical and, well, thick.

          • Sarah Pesto

            Yeah, I only act up when things get intolerable and my feelings get hurt. I’m Muslim by the way, so I probably am not going to be coming back here any more. I’ll pray for you guys though. Salam!

          • Black__Mamba

            Well, best to you. Read the Koran if you haven’t (many Muslims never do). Or at least a neutral abbreviation of it, chapter by chapter, like The Koran In Three Hours by James Deen. It’s a bloody text. How you could justify to yourself half of what Mohammed did – half of what Muslims do now – is more than I can imagine. For some reason it’s the rape of his captured Jewish slave Saffiyah the very night after he slaughters her family that most makes me want to throw up, even more that contemplating the age of Aisha. A deeply woman-hating religion. And you must know that most of its practitioners would consider you a sharmuta, based merely on the fact that you don’t cover your hair.

            But there you have it. Good luck.

          • defcon 4

            Keep lying! After all, it’s the prophet’s way allahtard!

          • ziggy zoggy

            You love ugly, stupid, criminal and low class Blacks who don’t know how to satisfy a woman.

        • ziggy zoggy

          MLK is vomiting in his grave. “We” have accomplished nothing but rank failure.

        • Omar

          Obama is a mixed-race president. His father was black and his mother was white. Why does everyone only care about his father? Look at what all you leftists have done to Herman Cain, who is trying to prove to minorities that the American Dream is theirs. You leftists have called him racial slurs like “Uncle Tom” and “sell-out”.

    • ziggy zoggy

      First incompetent mulatto Muslim ever. Yay.

    • ServosT

      If Jackie Robinson was as good a ball player as 0bama is president he would have hit .227 and led the league in errors. The only thing that has saved The 0 is a lackey press and a democrat party that has circled the wagon around His Royal Incompetence.

  • Sarah Pesto

    Really, why are you all getting upset? This is a comedy show. Take it easy. It’s not good for your health to be so riled up.

  • ObamaYoMoma

    What you mean, the Muslims are already here and I’m sorry but they aren’t here to assimilate and integrate and to become patriotic Americans. No, they are here to subjugate and dominate via the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law. In other words, they are here for the very strategic purpose of stealth demographic conquest.

    Nevertheless, Islam is not even a religion, as its first and foremost prerequisite is the total, complete, and unconditional submission to the “will of Allah” under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy of all Muslims. Indeed, what faith-based religions similarly compel faith via the total, complete, and unconditional submission under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy the same way only Islam does? The answer, of course, is none of them, and that proves unequivocally that Islam is a very totalitarian cult as opposed to being a faith-based religion. Indeed, it’s not faith if the freedom of conscience is forbidden under the penalty of death.

    Furthermore, what is the “will of Allah” that all Muslims totally, completely, and unconditionally submit to under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy? In essence it is Sharia, and Sharia is Islamic totalitarian law. As a matter of fact, the only freedom that Sharia allows is the freedom for Muslims to become more devout slaves of Allah.

    Moreover, according to the infamous sword verses of the Koran, together with the universally accepted throughout Islam doctrine of abrogation, the sole fundamental purpose of Islam is the subjugation of all religions and all infidels into Islamic totalitarianism through both violent and non-violent jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law.

    In addition, jihad is not only the highest pillar in which Islam stands; it is also a holy obligation incumbent upon all Muslims in one form or another. Thus, all Muslims are jihadists in one form or another. Otherwise, they are blasphemous apostates that must be executed per the texts and tenets of Islam. Indeed, Islam is extremely totalitarian as it strictly forbids the freedom of conscience under the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy.

    As a matter of fact, all of the above is what Islam is trying to conceal via its absurd propaganda, which is really taqiyya, as Islamophobia is just a transparent attempt to camouflage and hide the truth about Islam. Indeed, if any of the above I wrote is somehow bigoted, then please, by all means, prove anything I said above is incorrect and wrong in any way, and I will recant and also apologize. I promise.

  • Blue Heeler

    We have this sort of shiite in Australia already.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38j8pSOekiY

  • nosharia

    Funny…now real funny would be if you bring your bible and trade it in for a koran, you get halal pork rinds, diet coke for free…and oh yea, child brides are half price and free under age of 9

  • Hoss

    Here’s a funny one…should be used in the documentary:

    Q: What’s the difference between a moderate Muslim and a radical Muslim?

    A: The radical Muslims want to kill us and the moderate Muslims want the

    radical Muslims to kill us.

    Maybe they can rewrite the doc and work it in. Folks will laugh their
    asses off.

  • info warrior

    Islamophobia is the new antisemitism.

  • Omar

    Hey, Pesto, why don’t you blame Canada, Latin America and the Caribbean for how they treated their Native American populations? The encomienda system started in Latin America by Spain and Portugal, and some countries still practiced it during the 19th century. If you really want to talk about genocide against Native Americans, look what your role-model and Sandinista thug Daniel Ortega did to the indigenous Miskito population in Nicaragua during the 1980s. Yet, you leftists don’t condemn that because you support it. You support that atrocity because the Miskitos are democratic, anti-fascist and anti-Communist. It is for those reasons that I call the Miskito people “Native Americans who do not fit the anti-American agenda”. Also, what about all the violence and oppression that happened between different Native American tribes and groups in the pre-Columbian years.
    As for slavery, that was abolished within 90 years of America’s existence. Brazil abolished slavery in 1888, 23 years after we did, yet you don’t blame Brazil for that sin, either. Also, segregation was declared illegal about a half-century ago. We had a civil rights movement and had civil rights legislation passed in Congress. If you want to talk about neo-segregation, look at Zimbabwe, where the racist dictator, Robert Mugabe, has been terrorizing white farmers for their land for the simple “crime” of being white. Any whites (or anyone else for that matter) who resists Mugabe’s thugs is shot by firing squads. Many white people in Zimbabwe have either died at the hands of the black supremacist regime, or had migrated out of the country. The white population in Zimbabwe in 1990 was about 1 million, it is now around 30,000 (as of 2010). I believe in justice for all. America does have flaws, but we have corrected them over the years, unlike its totalitarian adversaries, some of which still practice slavery and segregation. That’s the reality.

  • ziggy zoggy

    You commies always say that. Hitler was a socialist in name and deed. The notion that he was pretending to be one is idiotic. All of histories champion murderers were Marxists. Mao, Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot. Coming in a distant fifth was Tamerlane – an islamopithecine.

  • Jon

    They are here in UK and don`t mix with the citizens here. The Muslims think they are way above us “infidels”…

  • El Desdichado

    Bearded and furious, quoting some prophet
    they rage in the streets of their failed nation-states
    exporting dysfunction, subversion and violence
    the hordes are increasing – they’re now at the gates…

    They fume as they gesture, in dirty pajamas
    and brood over battles from centuries past.
    They scheme to establish a caliphate pipe-dream;
    the next bloody tantrum will not be their last.

    Republocrat/Demican? Satan to them…
    They care not an angel what party you vote.
    Your well-meaning efforts are lost in translation -
    they’ll just as soon slit your good liberal throat…

    An epic poem soon to appear @ http://connecthook.wordpress.com/

  • ServosT

    That’s about as good a definition as I’ve heard, I intend to steal it and pass it off as my own.