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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;My point is that Mao and Nixon shaking hands had actual significance in history--this handshake with Raul Castro that people are so exercised about does not.&quot;



It&#039;s a lot less significant than China. The controversy lies in the difficulty for most people to see why he would do it when we want to move Cuba away from tyranny and we don&#039;t actually need anything from Cuba ourselves. 


It seems foolish to me, but totally consistent with his foreign policy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My point is that Mao and Nixon shaking hands had actual significance in history&#8211;this handshake with Raul Castro that people are so exercised about does not.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lot less significant than China. The controversy lies in the difficulty for most people to see why he would do it when we want to move Cuba away from tyranny and we don&#8217;t actually need anything from Cuba ourselves. </p>
<p>It seems foolish to me, but totally consistent with his foreign policy.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s only marginally controversial. It&#039;s disappointing more than anything. Cuba is not actually a threat to us. Cuba is hurting its own citizens more than anyone else. Shaking Hitler&#039;s handshake was more dangerous but also had potentially more upside if things had done the way they hoped.

One should be reasonably free to compare and contrast with other controversial handshakes without freaking anyone out.

&quot;Where was your outrage at a long list of handshakes with &quot;bad guys&quot; engaged in by Reagan or other folk of the Right?&quot;



Context matters, and  you&#039;re talking about historical events so you need to be specific.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s only marginally controversial. It&#8217;s disappointing more than anything. Cuba is not actually a threat to us. Cuba is hurting its own citizens more than anyone else. Shaking Hitler&#8217;s handshake was more dangerous but also had potentially more upside if things had done the way they hoped.</p>
<p>One should be reasonably free to compare and contrast with other controversial handshakes without freaking anyone out.</p>
<p>&#8220;Where was your outrage at a long list of handshakes with &#8220;bad guys&#8221; engaged in by Reagan or other folk of the Right?&#8221;</p>
<p>Context matters, and  you&#8217;re talking about historical events so you need to be specific.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;By the same token, if Obama&#039;s handshake with Raul Castro signals a new thaw in American-Cuban relations, much good may flow from that relationship as well.&quot;





In theory it&#039;s possible. Based on history, I&#039;m not counting any chickens. Iran is much worse even though there was no controversial handshake.


I guess at this point the handshake had very little downside. The partisans have to point out that it&#039;s more of the same thing and that probably means that we still need to change course. There&#039;s no harm in putting pressure on 0&#039;Bama to deliver on behalf of the USA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;By the same token, if Obama&#8217;s handshake with Raul Castro signals a new thaw in American-Cuban relations, much good may flow from that relationship as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>In theory it&#8217;s possible. Based on history, I&#8217;m not counting any chickens. Iran is much worse even though there was no controversial handshake.</p>
<p>I guess at this point the handshake had very little downside. The partisans have to point out that it&#8217;s more of the same thing and that probably means that we still need to change course. There&#8217;s no harm in putting pressure on 0&#8242;Bama to deliver on behalf of the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Dallas25305</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no surprise here.  Chairman Barack Hussein is just giving the 
respect he believes he should to a fellow Marxist. After all Castro is 
already in the position Obozo wants to be in. Castro is the leader of a 
Communist 3rd world nation like Obama wants to create.  It&#039;s not like he
 is meeting a Leader from a former Western Allied nation.  He hates 
those guys and does what ever he can to let them know it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no surprise here.  Chairman Barack Hussein is just giving the<br />
respect he believes he should to a fellow Marxist. After all Castro is<br />
already in the position Obozo wants to be in. Castro is the leader of a<br />
Communist 3rd world nation like Obama wants to create.  It&#8217;s not like he<br />
 is meeting a Leader from a former Western Allied nation.  He hates<br />
those guys and does what ever he can to let them know it.</p>
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		<title>By: frodo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frodo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My point is that Mao and Nixon shaking hands had actual significance in history--this handshake with Raul Castro that people are so exercised about does not.  Not hard to understand, I think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is that Mao and Nixon shaking hands had actual significance in history&#8211;this handshake with Raul Castro that people are so exercised about does not.  Not hard to understand, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: frodo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frodo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s my point--this shouldn&#039;t be controversial because of the context.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s my point&#8211;this shouldn&#8217;t be controversial because of the context.</p>
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		<title>By: frodo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frodo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you?  What justifies your rudeness?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you?  What justifies your rudeness?</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OFM: &quot;Nixon delivered China with that handshake.&quot;

Portraying Nixon as a delivery man seems odd to me.  Since Nixon didn&#039;t have China, it&#039;s somewhat difficult to imagine how he could have delivered China.  It&#039;s probably more accurate to say that Nixon delivered America to China, but it was still a good thing.  I think it is clear that much good has flowed and may still flow from that relationship.  By the same token, if Obama&#039;s handshake with Raul Castro signals a new thaw in American-Cuban relations, much good may flow from that relationship as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OFM: &#8220;Nixon delivered China with that handshake.&#8221;</p>
<p>Portraying Nixon as a delivery man seems odd to me.  Since Nixon didn&#8217;t have China, it&#8217;s somewhat difficult to imagine how he could have delivered China.  It&#8217;s probably more accurate to say that Nixon delivered America to China, but it was still a good thing.  I think it is clear that much good has flowed and may still flow from that relationship.  By the same token, if Obama&#8217;s handshake with Raul Castro signals a new thaw in American-Cuban relations, much good may flow from that relationship as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Texas Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We shall see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shall see.</p>
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		<title>By: A Z</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 12:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The tenor of my comment was misreadable.  You are former military, so maybe those are your sources.

I said &quot; I would have EXPECTED the Left to make a stink about it.

then again if the UN inspectors saw that SA actually had no more nukes, knew that they went to Israel, but that no one at UN HQ would ask about it they would turn a blind eye.  

That as in the back of my mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tenor of my comment was misreadable.  You are former military, so maybe those are your sources.</p>
<p>I said &#8221; I would have EXPECTED the Left to make a stink about it.</p>
<p>then again if the UN inspectors saw that SA actually had no more nukes, knew that they went to Israel, but that no one at UN HQ would ask about it they would turn a blind eye.  </p>
<p>That as in the back of my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 06:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are no longer niceties and pleasantries or reasonable disagreements with the left, those days are long gone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no longer niceties and pleasantries or reasonable disagreements with the left, those days are long gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 06:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WTF is wrong with you? Did you flunk lunch because the drugs had a bad side affect?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF is wrong with you? Did you flunk lunch because the drugs had a bad side affect?</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 06:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here, let me bloody well repeat myself and never use wiki for a reference, SA sent their nukes to Israel before the US had a chance to grab them, regardless of what a UN report says. Those are the facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, let me bloody well repeat myself and never use wiki for a reference, SA sent their nukes to Israel before the US had a chance to grab them, regardless of what a UN report says. Those are the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Lande</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Lande]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 05:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. How can we keep him on the golf course or playing basketball? Seriously, I feel like I&#039;m trapped at the back of a bus careening down the interstate with no driver.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. How can we keep him on the golf course or playing basketball? Seriously, I feel like I&#8217;m trapped at the back of a bus careening down the interstate with no driver.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 04:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, But I think all of these angry folks would also agree, but they see this handshake as consistent with all of the other negative developments. We don&#039;t want to alienate more friends or hug more enemies. We&#039;d be better off if this POTUS remained on the golf course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, But I think all of these angry folks would also agree, but they see this handshake as consistent with all of the other negative developments. We don&#8217;t want to alienate more friends or hug more enemies. We&#8217;d be better off if this POTUS remained on the golf course.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 04:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why can&#039;t a comparison be made to Nixon shaking hands with Mao?&quot;

Why can&#039;t you contrast the 2 events? Weak in knowledge of history?

&quot;This is a trivial thing.&quot;



In the context of all the other disappointments, I agree with you that&#039;s it&#039;s a minor annoyance. I&#039;m not surprised in the least. And it&#039;s not like it&#039;s a big betrayal because it&#039;s already very clear how 0&#039;Bama feels about communists and socialists. Nixon wanted to deliver the USA and NATO from communism, 0&#039;Bama wants to deliver the USA to international socialism.


It would be better if he only played golf for the rest of his days. Because when he acts, America loses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why can&#8217;t a comparison be made to Nixon shaking hands with Mao?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t you contrast the 2 events? Weak in knowledge of history?</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a trivial thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the context of all the other disappointments, I agree with you that&#8217;s it&#8217;s a minor annoyance. I&#8217;m not surprised in the least. And it&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s a big betrayal because it&#8217;s already very clear how 0&#8242;Bama feels about communists and socialists. Nixon wanted to deliver the USA and NATO from communism, 0&#8242;Bama wants to deliver the USA to international socialism.</p>
<p>It would be better if he only played golf for the rest of his days. Because when he acts, America loses.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 04:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Context matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Context matters.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 04:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So 0&#039;Bama is just about to deliver something related to our relationship with Cuba? In the best interests of the USA?


I wish I could believe that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So 0&#8242;Bama is just about to deliver something related to our relationship with Cuba? In the best interests of the USA?</p>
<p>I wish I could believe that.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 04:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;But is anyone condemning him for shaking hands with Mao Tse Tung?&quot;



Nixon delivered China with that handshake. At least that is the context. Splitting China from the Soviets was a pretty big coup.

Having said that, I think Nixon was a loser in many ways. And if 0&#039;Bama delivers anything solid anywhere, people will be less concerned about shaking hands with regime leaders that kill Americans.


Not that I care too much about whose hand he shakes. It&#039;s barely interesting enough to comment on. It&#039;s more interesting looking at the reasons why people are so critical. Hint: It&#039;s not really racism.


I predict this will be forgotten when he&#039;s bowing and scraping in Iran next year. If he actually delivered something for our interests vis-a-vis Iran, I would care a whole lot less what greetings and political protocols he used. And I barely care now. What I care about are the effects of his actions in sum, not just the photo ops.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But is anyone condemning him for shaking hands with Mao Tse Tung?&#8221;</p>
<p>Nixon delivered China with that handshake. At least that is the context. Splitting China from the Soviets was a pretty big coup.</p>
<p>Having said that, I think Nixon was a loser in many ways. And if 0&#8242;Bama delivers anything solid anywhere, people will be less concerned about shaking hands with regime leaders that kill Americans.</p>
<p>Not that I care too much about whose hand he shakes. It&#8217;s barely interesting enough to comment on. It&#8217;s more interesting looking at the reasons why people are so critical. Hint: It&#8217;s not really racism.</p>
<p>I predict this will be forgotten when he&#8217;s bowing and scraping in Iran next year. If he actually delivered something for our interests vis-a-vis Iran, I would care a whole lot less what greetings and political protocols he used. And I barely care now. What I care about are the effects of his actions in sum, not just the photo ops.</p>
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		<title>By: Crassus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crassus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 03:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The libs will still find a way to blame it all on Bush.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The libs will still find a way to blame it all on Bush.</p>
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