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		<title>By: defcon 4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[defcon 4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 06:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. The &quot;moderate&quot; muslimes in Turkey had no problems when the muslime perpetrators of the double synagogue bombing that killed 26 people in Turkey only received a maximum sentence of SIX years. The &quot;moderate&quot; muslimes in Turkey have no problems w/the denial of the genocide of some 2.5 million Armenian and Assyrian Christians committed by Turkish muslimes over a century ago. The &quot;moderate&quot; muslimes in Turkey have no problem denying the Istanbul pogrom of the 1950&#039;s or the invasion, annexation and ethnic cleansing of 40% of Cyprus.
The &quot;moderate&quot; muslimes in Turkey have no problem w/the persecution of the VERY few Christians and Jews unfortunate enough to live in Turkey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The &#8220;moderate&#8221; muslimes in Turkey had no problems when the muslime perpetrators of the double synagogue bombing that killed 26 people in Turkey only received a maximum sentence of SIX years. The &#8220;moderate&#8221; muslimes in Turkey have no problems w/the denial of the genocide of some 2.5 million Armenian and Assyrian Christians committed by Turkish muslimes over a century ago. The &#8220;moderate&#8221; muslimes in Turkey have no problem denying the Istanbul pogrom of the 1950&#8242;s or the invasion, annexation and ethnic cleansing of 40% of Cyprus.<br />
The &#8220;moderate&#8221; muslimes in Turkey have no problem w/the persecution of the VERY few Christians and Jews unfortunate enough to live in Turkey.</p>
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		<title>By: defcon 4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[defcon 4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He has been in power for TEN years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has been in power for TEN years.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellman48</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellman48]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 05:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It appears that Mr. Erdogan has much in common with the Ayatollah in Iran and the Presidents in Syria and Egypt. Can it be more than coincidence that Islamist tyrants all abuse and punish the ordinary citizens who seek only to express their concerns in public, whether Sunni or Shia, with beards or without, with parliaments or not? Methinks Islamic fundamentalism and brutality go together like a hamburger and a hamburger roll.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that Mr. Erdogan has much in common with the Ayatollah in Iran and the Presidents in Syria and Egypt. Can it be more than coincidence that Islamist tyrants all abuse and punish the ordinary citizens who seek only to express their concerns in public, whether Sunni or Shia, with beards or without, with parliaments or not? Methinks Islamic fundamentalism and brutality go together like a hamburger and a hamburger roll.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael_van_der_Galien</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael_van_der_Galien]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: DOYOULOVEAMERICA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DOYOULOVEAMERICA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Typical unamerican mindless liberal lemming response.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical unamerican mindless liberal lemming response&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirk B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the bright side I doubt Erdogan will ever get re-elected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the bright side I doubt Erdogan will ever get re-elected.</p>
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		<title>By: defcon 4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[defcon 4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Typical islamo-nazi response.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical islamo-nazi response.</p>
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		<title>By: DOYOULOVEAMERICA</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is wrong with the police putting these rabid animals down....???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is wrong with the police putting these rabid animals down&#8230;.???</p>
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		<title>By: tordenfuglen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tordenfuglen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 12:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turkey has definitely excluded itself as a porspective member of the European Union. Although the European Union has many undemocratic traits, the member states are basically democratic.  The time may also be ripe to question wether Turkey should remain a member of NATO.  Evidence is piling up leading to the conclusion that Turkey should be thrown out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turkey has definitely excluded itself as a porspective member of the European Union. Although the European Union has many undemocratic traits, the member states are basically democratic.  The time may also be ripe to question wether Turkey should remain a member of NATO.  Evidence is piling up leading to the conclusion that Turkey should be thrown out.</p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because the people of Berkeley and the People of Turkey have more or less the same legitimacy for their grievances.


Is that your point? Because the &quot;occupiers&quot; tried and tried to get relief from American courts, but those rich people would not cough up their money trees to share (social justice IS a &quot;human right&quot;), and this clearly makes life here more or less equal to living under sharia.


I see your point mr. cracker. Funny you should mention ignorance...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the people of Berkeley and the People of Turkey have more or less the same legitimacy for their grievances.</p>
<p>Is that your point? Because the &#8220;occupiers&#8221; tried and tried to get relief from American courts, but those rich people would not cough up their money trees to share (social justice IS a &#8220;human right&#8221;), and this clearly makes life here more or less equal to living under sharia.</p>
<p>I see your point mr. cracker. Funny you should mention ignorance&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lionel Mandrake</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lionel Mandrake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Islamize the country&quot;? The country was Islamized in 1453 and has the overwhelming support of its citizens in all surveys. 

About Erdogen&#039;s use of water cannons on &quot;journalists&quot;, good. I hope he uses truncheons on them too next time. 

This disturbance is obviously serves the liberal lefts agenda in its wishes to bring millions of Moslems into Europe by granting EU status to Turkey. The idea is that we dummies are to believe the Moslems are really democratic minded and are resisting &quot;Islamization&quot; that this author forgets they have and want. 

The protests are about expansion into Europe fools. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Islamize the country&#8221;? The country was Islamized in 1453 and has the overwhelming support of its citizens in all surveys. </p>
<p>About Erdogen&#8217;s use of water cannons on &#8220;journalists&#8221;, good. I hope he uses truncheons on them too next time. </p>
<p>This disturbance is obviously serves the liberal lefts agenda in its wishes to bring millions of Moslems into Europe by granting EU status to Turkey. The idea is that we dummies are to believe the Moslems are really democratic minded and are resisting &#8220;Islamization&#8221; that this author forgets they have and want. </p>
<p>The protests are about expansion into Europe fools. </p>
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		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear LooneyBird,


I told you so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear LooneyBird,</p>
<p>I told you so.</p>
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		<title>By: OfficialPro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OfficialPro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[US &quot;Occupy&quot; = FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS


Turkey Occupy = actual protestation of you know, actual oppression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US &#8220;Occupy&#8221; = FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS</p>
<p>Turkey Occupy = actual protestation of you know, actual oppression.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael_van_der_Galien</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael_van_der_Galien]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No it isn&#039;t, actually. They are fighting against two things:
1. Authoritarianism
2. Islamism


They are very clear that they demand the separation of mosque and state, just like Mustafa Kemal Atatürk did. Erdogan is trying to do away with laicité, they are rightfully rejecting that.


Furthermore, Erdogan does not have a &quot;comfortable democratic majority.&quot; In the last elections he got around 50 percent of the vote. Before that it was in the 40&#039;s, before that in the 30&#039;s. If current polls are correct, he&#039;s now back to in the low 40&#039;s and even in the high 30&#039;s. 


Now, what does that mean? It means that the majority of voters do not support him (at this moment). He has a supreme majority in parliament because of Turkey&#039;s ridiculous system which rewards the winner (by demanding parties win at least 10 percent of the vote). However, that is not a comfortable democratic majority, but a comfortable *artificial* majority.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No it isn&#8217;t, actually. They are fighting against two things:<br />
1. Authoritarianism<br />
2. Islamism</p>
<p>They are very clear that they demand the separation of mosque and state, just like Mustafa Kemal Atatürk did. Erdogan is trying to do away with laicité, they are rightfully rejecting that.</p>
<p>Furthermore, Erdogan does not have a &#8220;comfortable democratic majority.&#8221; In the last elections he got around 50 percent of the vote. Before that it was in the 40&#8242;s, before that in the 30&#8242;s. If current polls are correct, he&#8217;s now back to in the low 40&#8242;s and even in the high 30&#8242;s. </p>
<p>Now, what does that mean? It means that the majority of voters do not support him (at this moment). He has a supreme majority in parliament because of Turkey&#8217;s ridiculous system which rewards the winner (by demanding parties win at least 10 percent of the vote). However, that is not a comfortable democratic majority, but a comfortable *artificial* majority.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael_van_der_Galien</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can: I can only say that I greatly respect your courage and determination. The police have basically thrown everything they&#039;ve got on you - except for live ammunition - but you refuse to step down. Those who aren&#039;t in such a situation, who don&#039;t know what it&#039;s like to constantly live with the threat of being arrested (just an example), can&#039;t understand what that means. 


Last paragraph: I agree. I think that if the protesters lose this battle, it will have a very profound impact on Turkey. A very profound and troubling impact, that is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can: I can only say that I greatly respect your courage and determination. The police have basically thrown everything they&#8217;ve got on you &#8211; except for live ammunition &#8211; but you refuse to step down. Those who aren&#8217;t in such a situation, who don&#8217;t know what it&#8217;s like to constantly live with the threat of being arrested (just an example), can&#8217;t understand what that means. </p>
<p>Last paragraph: I agree. I think that if the protesters lose this battle, it will have a very profound impact on Turkey. A very profound and troubling impact, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: crackerjack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crackerjack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erdogan has a comfortable democratic majority.  The Turkish administration deals with occupy protesters and civil unrest no different than we have recently witnessed in similar situations in Spain, Greece, Britian, USA, Germany , and certainly far less violent that the current Brasilian paramilitary crackdown on protesters.

Those now falling in love with the Turkish Occupy movement are the same who slammed the US Occupy movement and the same who spotlighted a few thousand students demonstrating in Venezuela while now remaining silent while millions take to the streets in Brasil.

Is it ignorance or hipocrisy? I place my bets on the latter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erdogan has a comfortable democratic majority.  The Turkish administration deals with occupy protesters and civil unrest no different than we have recently witnessed in similar situations in Spain, Greece, Britian, USA, Germany , and certainly far less violent that the current Brasilian paramilitary crackdown on protesters.</p>
<p>Those now falling in love with the Turkish Occupy movement are the same who slammed the US Occupy movement and the same who spotlighted a few thousand students demonstrating in Venezuela while now remaining silent while millions take to the streets in Brasil.</p>
<p>Is it ignorance or hipocrisy? I place my bets on the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: Can Kuzu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Can Kuzu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 06:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the good overview.

The bad news for Erdogan is that the protesters are not going to stay home. The police brutality is just forcing us to change tactics all the time. 

Yesterday evening there was a flash demonstration on the Asian side of Istanbul. A policeman who had shot a protester in Ankara, had been released on bail (unlike protesters who are held pending trial, accused of being terrorists). It was to protest this. 

Based on the photos I have seen, at least 10 thousand people took part, within a couple of hours of being publicised. 

We are aware that this could be our last chance to stop the Country&#039;s slide away from democracy. We will not let go that easily.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the good overview.</p>
<p>The bad news for Erdogan is that the protesters are not going to stay home. The police brutality is just forcing us to change tactics all the time. </p>
<p>Yesterday evening there was a flash demonstration on the Asian side of Istanbul. A policeman who had shot a protester in Ankara, had been released on bail (unlike protesters who are held pending trial, accused of being terrorists). It was to protest this. </p>
<p>Based on the photos I have seen, at least 10 thousand people took part, within a couple of hours of being publicised. </p>
<p>We are aware that this could be our last chance to stop the Country&#8217;s slide away from democracy. We will not let go that easily.</p>
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