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		<title>By: Burk Efe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erdogan&#039;s expiration date way passed.. And for those who think they will use GEZI against RTE to cap his chair (Abdullah Gul or any other Gulen backed up puppets) - you will not have a chance.. You will all be trialed at Silivri - for betrayal to nation, bribery and not being able to explain how you all became that RICH just with your official SALARIES...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erdogan&#8217;s expiration date way passed.. And for those who think they will use GEZI against RTE to cap his chair (Abdullah Gul or any other Gulen backed up puppets) &#8211; you will not have a chance.. You will all be trialed at Silivri &#8211; for betrayal to nation, bribery and not being able to explain how you all became that RICH just with your official SALARIES&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: aykiribakis</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Same old arguments again and again ... Read my comments and see how many times I answered these points.

If you watched the video-documentary I shared, and if you still believe those vandals are using their constitutional rights, I think it is better to stop arguing about this issue too. Because you are blinded and there is no hope for you. Even a doctor cannot help you :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same old arguments again and again &#8230; Read my comments and see how many times I answered these points.</p>
<p>If you watched the video-documentary I shared, and if you still believe those vandals are using their constitutional rights, I think it is better to stop arguing about this issue too. Because you are blinded and there is no hope for you. Even a doctor cannot help you <img src="http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ege Görgülü</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me get this straight. 

So you think that it&#039;s completely normal that people will get killed at the hands of the police when they use their constitutional right to protest. 

And in order to prevent that they should stop protesting in contrast to, you know, police not killing people.

Good luck with that PHd. You are clearly delusional, I suggest you go see a doctor or sth. I will not respond to you anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight. </p>
<p>So you think that it&#8217;s completely normal that people will get killed at the hands of the police when they use their constitutional right to protest. </p>
<p>And in order to prevent that they should stop protesting in contrast to, you know, police not killing people.</p>
<p>Good luck with that PHd. You are clearly delusional, I suggest you go see a doctor or sth. I will not respond to you anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: aykiribakis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aykiribakis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are still not giving me sources and numbers. I look at CIA factbook, but do not see the things you say. The debt/GDP ratio decreased substantially. Period. Show me that it did not. Everybody knows that, this is something you can find in everywhere on internet.

You are the same person with some of the other commentors here. You change your username and comment with different names. And yes, you are voting for CHP and you called Erdoğan fascist dictator in your previous comments (not with this username but with another one)

You say that you point out the mistakes of the government, but the things you are trying to show as mistakes are not mistakes, that is what I have shown you, but you still do not want to see.

I never say the government does not have any mistakes. For example I criticize the government for the Alevi rights and for some other reforms that they have not done yet. But these things are not the things you guys have been mentioning. You are not seeing the real problems and instead blaming the government with false arguments. Also there is no better alternative to Erdoğan, if you are not voting for him, you should be able to show me an alternative. But there is no logical alternative, that&#039;s the problem.

Yes you should not kill innocent people but those innocent people also should stay as innocent and should stop the violent protests. The protesters are also responsible for the deaths.

I mentioned about the %10 election barrier issue before, so I do not want to repeat it. It is not an issue now. All of the parties who got above %5 are represented in the parliament currently. %94 of the voters are represented in the parliament which is a greater number than many European countries. 

If you want to criticize the government, do it, but please do it in a constructive way. Showing false arguments as truth and provoking people does not help us at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are still not giving me sources and numbers. I look at CIA factbook, but do not see the things you say. The debt/GDP ratio decreased substantially. Period. Show me that it did not. Everybody knows that, this is something you can find in everywhere on internet.</p>
<p>You are the same person with some of the other commentors here. You change your username and comment with different names. And yes, you are voting for CHP and you called Erdoğan fascist dictator in your previous comments (not with this username but with another one)</p>
<p>You say that you point out the mistakes of the government, but the things you are trying to show as mistakes are not mistakes, that is what I have shown you, but you still do not want to see.</p>
<p>I never say the government does not have any mistakes. For example I criticize the government for the Alevi rights and for some other reforms that they have not done yet. But these things are not the things you guys have been mentioning. You are not seeing the real problems and instead blaming the government with false arguments. Also there is no better alternative to Erdoğan, if you are not voting for him, you should be able to show me an alternative. But there is no logical alternative, that&#8217;s the problem.</p>
<p>Yes you should not kill innocent people but those innocent people also should stay as innocent and should stop the violent protests. The protesters are also responsible for the deaths.</p>
<p>I mentioned about the %10 election barrier issue before, so I do not want to repeat it. It is not an issue now. All of the parties who got above %5 are represented in the parliament currently. %94 of the voters are represented in the parliament which is a greater number than many European countries. </p>
<p>If you want to criticize the government, do it, but please do it in a constructive way. Showing false arguments as truth and provoking people does not help us at all.</p>
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		<title>By: justice</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. Take a look at factbook CIA for 2002 and 2012 for the rates. It&#039; also logic that If debt increase 3 times, your GDP has to increase 3 times to keep the same rate. Was there any such improvement. Of course I want Turkey has better economy, but I want to point out that we increased our economy by consuming only, not by producing, this is not healthy. We are now stacked between budget and negative deficit account.  
2. I don&#039;t vote for CHP.  You cannot talk the way you think and wish and blame people.  I do not support dictator Syria regime and I do not say Erdogan is dictator.  Turkey&#039;s culture doesn&#039;t allow to have dictators and will never allow.  I point out the mistakes I have seen of government which you do not have any need to create empathy on that so far. How nice! 
3. The priority is we do not kill our innocent people first. And after that we can take a look at other countries. But you will not accept it and keep saying protestors were not innocent a usual indeed.  
4. 10% barrier is not free elections. And said democratic elections is also not enough If you do not respect the minorities necessities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Take a look at factbook CIA for 2002 and 2012 for the rates. It&#8217; also logic that If debt increase 3 times, your GDP has to increase 3 times to keep the same rate. Was there any such improvement. Of course I want Turkey has better economy, but I want to point out that we increased our economy by consuming only, not by producing, this is not healthy. We are now stacked between budget and negative deficit account.<br />
2. I don&#8217;t vote for CHP.  You cannot talk the way you think and wish and blame people.  I do not support dictator Syria regime and I do not say Erdogan is dictator.  Turkey&#8217;s culture doesn&#8217;t allow to have dictators and will never allow.  I point out the mistakes I have seen of government which you do not have any need to create empathy on that so far. How nice!<br />
3. The priority is we do not kill our innocent people first. And after that we can take a look at other countries. But you will not accept it and keep saying protestors were not innocent a usual indeed.<br />
4. 10% barrier is not free elections. And said democratic elections is also not enough If you do not respect the minorities necessities.</p>
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		<title>By: aykiribakis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aykiribakis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hahaha :) Look I am a PhD student in one of the best universities in the world, in UK, ok? If you are really curious about my identity send me an email to aykiribakis [attt] aykiribakis.com and I can give all my details to you :D My identity is not a secret, it is just not public,because there is no need. But if one is really curious, I can definitely share my identity, my facebook and all my identity details. No problem at all. I do not have any single connection with AKP nor my family. My family is also not doing any business or trade, they are retired people.

This is a very sick mentality you guys have. You are pathetic. When you cannot give a logical answer you immediately start accusing people with bullshit. 

The fascism is the thing people like you do. Trying to topple an elected legitimate government by force and violence, is pure fascism.

I wrote about the police violence before. After some point these type of incidences are inevitable. There are always people dying in this type of mass demonstrations in the world, sadly. Because the situation very quickly gets out of control from both sides. That is why you should stop protesting in this way. These type of violent protests are killing people in anywhere, including USA, Europe, Brazil ... This is not about fascism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha <img src="http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" />  Look I am a PhD student in one of the best universities in the world, in UK, ok? If you are really curious about my identity send me an email to aykiribakis [attt] aykiribakis.com and I can give all my details to you <img src="http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" />  My identity is not a secret, it is just not public,because there is no need. But if one is really curious, I can definitely share my identity, my facebook and all my identity details. No problem at all. I do not have any single connection with AKP nor my family. My family is also not doing any business or trade, they are retired people.</p>
<p>This is a very sick mentality you guys have. You are pathetic. When you cannot give a logical answer you immediately start accusing people with bullshit. </p>
<p>The fascism is the thing people like you do. Trying to topple an elected legitimate government by force and violence, is pure fascism.</p>
<p>I wrote about the police violence before. After some point these type of incidences are inevitable. There are always people dying in this type of mass demonstrations in the world, sadly. Because the situation very quickly gets out of control from both sides. That is why you should stop protesting in this way. These type of violent protests are killing people in anywhere, including USA, Europe, Brazil &#8230; This is not about fascism.</p>
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		<title>By: Ege Görgülü</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ege Görgülü]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe I have to say this but being tired &amp; stressed doesn&#039;t magically give you the right to arrest someone for saying &quot;go away&quot;, especially in response to a religiously discriminating statement.  That&#039;s the fascism here. And even if there is an insult, nobody deserves to be treated that way. 


Don&#039;t get me wrong, all this police violence doesn&#039;t justify throwing stones at them either, but it&#039;s not the protesters who shot a 14 year old boy into a coma while he was going to the store to buy bread. Or killed people for that matter. 


Is that enough fascism for you? 

Btw, I&#039;m not worried at all. I know who you are and your past exercises. As well as your business endeavors. 


But if I didn&#039;t and had to take a guess, I&#039;d say you&#039;re working for one of the social media agencies AKP hired in order to create disinformation. But you are not one of them right? *wink* Right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe I have to say this but being tired &amp; stressed doesn&#8217;t magically give you the right to arrest someone for saying &#8220;go away&#8221;, especially in response to a religiously discriminating statement.  That&#8217;s the fascism here. And even if there is an insult, nobody deserves to be treated that way. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, all this police violence doesn&#8217;t justify throwing stones at them either, but it&#8217;s not the protesters who shot a 14 year old boy into a coma while he was going to the store to buy bread. Or killed people for that matter. </p>
<p>Is that enough fascism for you? </p>
<p>Btw, I&#8217;m not worried at all. I know who you are and your past exercises. As well as your business endeavors. </p>
<p>But if I didn&#8217;t and had to take a guess, I&#8217;d say you&#8217;re working for one of the social media agencies AKP hired in order to create disinformation. But you are not one of them right? *wink* Right?</p>
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		<title>By: aykiribakis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aykiribakis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 10:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I respect every opinion which are respected and worth to listen. But if people like you, talk about things without knowing even the very basic things and attack to me, I use a different tone, a tone which people like you deserve.

You give some numbers about GDP and debt. Where do those numbers come from? Show me your sources. They are totally wrong. http://www.sde.org.tr/tr/newsdetail/turkiyede-kamu-borcunun-durumu/3269 You can have a quick google search and find the same data from many different sources. The debt/GDP ratio decreased substantially. 

The things you said are all imaginary. Those are again wishful thinking. You want Turkish economy to sink, so that people would vote for CHP :) Sorry, my friend, this is not the case. I can show you the data that you are wrong but there is no need, you will not understand anyways. If you are right, why do you think all of the independent international ranking organizations like S&amp;P, Moodys, Fitch ... increased the rating of Turkey constantly since 2002? You guys are really totally blind. That is why you get shocked after each and every single election and start calling AKP supporters stupid. Because you cannot understand.

We are not talking about elections here, we are talking about democratic elections. How can you compare elections in Turkey with the elections in Syria and Iran? I think I should stop arguing with you after this. Because you have no idea about anything. There are about 30 political parties attending the elections in Turkey and the elections are totally transparent and free. How can you compare Turkey with dictatorship regimes and single party systems? A free election is indeed democracy, your argument is nonsense. 

Regarding the Syria issue, there are things beyond our capabilities and limits. What would you do to stop the bullets coming from the Syrian border? We did not start the war in Syria. We did not kill thousands of innocent people. We did not force them to come to Turkey. You are blaming the government for that reason, this is a shame. You are on the side of brutal Assad regime. You call Erdoğan fascist and dictator, but you have no problem with Assad. Shame on you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect every opinion which are respected and worth to listen. But if people like you, talk about things without knowing even the very basic things and attack to me, I use a different tone, a tone which people like you deserve.</p>
<p>You give some numbers about GDP and debt. Where do those numbers come from? Show me your sources. They are totally wrong. <a href="http://www.sde.org.tr/tr/newsdetail/turkiyede-kamu-borcunun-durumu/3269" rel="nofollow">http://www.sde.org.tr/tr/newsdetail/turkiyede-kamu-borcunun-durumu/3269</a> You can have a quick google search and find the same data from many different sources. The debt/GDP ratio decreased substantially. </p>
<p>The things you said are all imaginary. Those are again wishful thinking. You want Turkish economy to sink, so that people would vote for CHP <img src="http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" />  Sorry, my friend, this is not the case. I can show you the data that you are wrong but there is no need, you will not understand anyways. If you are right, why do you think all of the independent international ranking organizations like S&amp;P, Moodys, Fitch &#8230; increased the rating of Turkey constantly since 2002? You guys are really totally blind. That is why you get shocked after each and every single election and start calling AKP supporters stupid. Because you cannot understand.</p>
<p>We are not talking about elections here, we are talking about democratic elections. How can you compare elections in Turkey with the elections in Syria and Iran? I think I should stop arguing with you after this. Because you have no idea about anything. There are about 30 political parties attending the elections in Turkey and the elections are totally transparent and free. How can you compare Turkey with dictatorship regimes and single party systems? A free election is indeed democracy, your argument is nonsense. </p>
<p>Regarding the Syria issue, there are things beyond our capabilities and limits. What would you do to stop the bullets coming from the Syrian border? We did not start the war in Syria. We did not kill thousands of innocent people. We did not force them to come to Turkey. You are blaming the government for that reason, this is a shame. You are on the side of brutal Assad regime. You call Erdoğan fascist and dictator, but you have no problem with Assad. Shame on you!</p>
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		<title>By: aykiribakis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aykiribakis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 09:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[:) I will put you in the middle of Taksim for hours and days to fight against the vandals. They will swear at you, they will provoke you, they will throw stones to you ... And someone will come and say &quot;go away from here fascists&quot; I wonder what would you do in that situation. Can you really ignore it? Why would you ignore it? 

This is fascism ha :D You guys are really funny.

I did enough of those exercises in the past :) Do not worry :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src="http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" />  I will put you in the middle of Taksim for hours and days to fight against the vandals. They will swear at you, they will provoke you, they will throw stones to you &#8230; And someone will come and say &#8220;go away from here fascists&#8221; I wonder what would you do in that situation. Can you really ignore it? Why would you ignore it? </p>
<p>This is fascism ha <img src="http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" class="wp-smiley" />  You guys are really funny.</p>
<p>I did enough of those exercises in the past <img src="http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" />  Do not worry <img src="http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 09:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ti message show how fascist you are. Because like every fascist you think. The way think is perfect and you deny any thing against your own opinion. No empathy of what I am saying.  Let&#039;s start from end:
Please check the ratio in 2002  and tell me.

Or I tell you it to you ? It was around 25% and now 36%

GDP:								purchasing power parity - $468 billion (2002 est.)
Debt :								$118.3 billion (September 2001 )
Although there was aim of global economy was growing up to the global crisis and Turkey was just get over a economical crisis in 2001 and started a reform at the bank system, this time used to make people consume money by getting debt and decrease their saving (ratio to GDP 12%) and construction sector pushed instead of production. Go to farmers and industry sector and ask them. Then indeed or account deficit increased a lot in order to increase the growth rate. Today the sea has finished. People are with full of debt, un-employment rate is still around 10%.  Although unstable consuming, the last 5 years average of GDP is around 2%, one of the lowest comparing the developing countries. 
It&#039;s getting worse but this is not our case, the case is democracy. Election by itself is not democracy. If so, then Iran and Syria is a democratic country as well. 
People do not think it&#039;s the most shining May. Opposite people think, they are not able to stop the murder of nature, transparency at justice, governing, no respect minorities requirements, full control over central media and no possibility to receive objective info, even you can&#039;t control over what government is doing, if you do you receive harsh words.   From Syria border, there is no control, everybody is passing. people do not feel safe and angry to government policy. Because they indeed think government is elected to protect its people and maintain a safest condition. People want from government to improve the democracy of the country first and give priority to its people not the other countries by putting his citizen into risk. If you risk you people to do something at another country, this becomes a mortal mistake. People are getting killed by bullets coming from Syria and nothing done by government successfully.   
These are all facts even you deny as usual. Because you are here to write only things to defend AKP and their mistakes.  
You keep writing here o there to everybody in a derisive mood to do your job but be sure that nobody take care for what you say. nobody is as stupid as your brain thinks or as shaped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ti message show how fascist you are. Because like every fascist you think. The way think is perfect and you deny any thing against your own opinion. No empathy of what I am saying.  Let&#8217;s start from end:<br />
Please check the ratio in 2002  and tell me.</p>
<p>Or I tell you it to you ? It was around 25% and now 36%</p>
<p>GDP:								purchasing power parity &#8211; $468 billion (2002 est.)<br />
Debt :								$118.3 billion (September 2001 )<br />
Although there was aim of global economy was growing up to the global crisis and Turkey was just get over a economical crisis in 2001 and started a reform at the bank system, this time used to make people consume money by getting debt and decrease their saving (ratio to GDP 12%) and construction sector pushed instead of production. Go to farmers and industry sector and ask them. Then indeed or account deficit increased a lot in order to increase the growth rate. Today the sea has finished. People are with full of debt, un-employment rate is still around 10%.  Although unstable consuming, the last 5 years average of GDP is around 2%, one of the lowest comparing the developing countries.<br />
It&#8217;s getting worse but this is not our case, the case is democracy. Election by itself is not democracy. If so, then Iran and Syria is a democratic country as well.<br />
People do not think it&#8217;s the most shining May. Opposite people think, they are not able to stop the murder of nature, transparency at justice, governing, no respect minorities requirements, full control over central media and no possibility to receive objective info, even you can&#8217;t control over what government is doing, if you do you receive harsh words.   From Syria border, there is no control, everybody is passing. people do not feel safe and angry to government policy. Because they indeed think government is elected to protect its people and maintain a safest condition. People want from government to improve the democracy of the country first and give priority to its people not the other countries by putting his citizen into risk. If you risk you people to do something at another country, this becomes a mortal mistake. People are getting killed by bullets coming from Syria and nothing done by government successfully.<br />
These are all facts even you deny as usual. Because you are here to write only things to defend AKP and their mistakes.<br />
You keep writing here o there to everybody in a derisive mood to do your job but be sure that nobody take care for what you say. nobody is as stupid as your brain thinks or as shaped.</p>
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		<title>By: Ege Görgülü</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ege Görgülü]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 09:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You realize that telling someone to go away has no physical effect in real life, right? You do realize that it&#039;s just some air coming out of someone&#039;s mouth, right? You know you can just... ignore it, right?

If not, please explain how some words can prevent our police from doing his job. ( Which btw definitely does not include &quot;make remarks about how un-muslim something is&quot; ) 

You clearly need some childish, mind-flexing exercises that&#039;s for sure. You&#039;re no different than those old fascists whom you guys always complain about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You realize that telling someone to go away has no physical effect in real life, right? You do realize that it&#8217;s just some air coming out of someone&#8217;s mouth, right? You know you can just&#8230; ignore it, right?</p>
<p>If not, please explain how some words can prevent our police from doing his job. ( Which btw definitely does not include &#8220;make remarks about how un-muslim something is&#8221; ) </p>
<p>You clearly need some childish, mind-flexing exercises that&#8217;s for sure. You&#8217;re no different than those old fascists whom you guys always complain about.</p>
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		<title>By: aykiribakis</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/michael-van-der-galien/erdogan-takes-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-5254457</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aykiribakis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 09:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Calling them a fascist and telling them to go away is neither an insult nor a crime.&quot; Totally disagree, this cannot be considered as freedom of speech, they are doing their jobs and they are policemen. The law clearly defines it. Calling police fascist is an insult to the police. Also I can tell you &quot;go away from here&quot;. But if I say it to the police who is on duty, this is completely different. So this is clearly something to prevent police doing their job. These are all crime according to the law. You do not have to give an example with a lady with headscarf :) I can understand you without giving funny examples. Your examples have nothing to do with the situation we are talking, they are quite different as I explained. 

We are indeed masters, but the police has to work freely to do their job. You need the police too, don&#039;t you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Calling them a fascist and telling them to go away is neither an insult nor a crime.&#8221; Totally disagree, this cannot be considered as freedom of speech, they are doing their jobs and they are policemen. The law clearly defines it. Calling police fascist is an insult to the police. Also I can tell you &#8220;go away from here&#8221;. But if I say it to the police who is on duty, this is completely different. So this is clearly something to prevent police doing their job. These are all crime according to the law. You do not have to give an example with a lady with headscarf <img src="http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" />  I can understand you without giving funny examples. Your examples have nothing to do with the situation we are talking, they are quite different as I explained. </p>
<p>We are indeed masters, but the police has to work freely to do their job. You need the police too, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Ege Görgülü</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ege Görgülü]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calling them a fascist and telling them to go away is neither an insult nor a crime. There&#039;s no crime here. If you think that it is, go read up on freedom of speech. 

We don&#039;t know the whole story, I&#039;ll give you that. If there&#039;s any actual insult, be my guest and arrest them. But according to the witness accounts that YOU gave link to, police were the first aggressors here, not the customers.

Think of it this way. Your sister is sitting in a cafe wearing a headscarf. A police officer makes a comment about how its not appropriate to wear a headscarf in public. I stand up to defend her right to wear a headscarf and get into an argument. How would you feel?

And how are they even resisting the police? One guy just came behind his back yelled him to get up as he was talking to another officer, and just threw him off his chair without even waiting for a response.

You&#039;re the one who doesn&#039;t understand. Police officers and politicians are not some authority figures that you must follow unquestioningly. They are our servants, and we&#039;re their masters. They exist to serve all of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling them a fascist and telling them to go away is neither an insult nor a crime. There&#8217;s no crime here. If you think that it is, go read up on freedom of speech. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know the whole story, I&#8217;ll give you that. If there&#8217;s any actual insult, be my guest and arrest them. But according to the witness accounts that YOU gave link to, police were the first aggressors here, not the customers.</p>
<p>Think of it this way. Your sister is sitting in a cafe wearing a headscarf. A police officer makes a comment about how its not appropriate to wear a headscarf in public. I stand up to defend her right to wear a headscarf and get into an argument. How would you feel?</p>
<p>And how are they even resisting the police? One guy just came behind his back yelled him to get up as he was talking to another officer, and just threw him off his chair without even waiting for a response.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the one who doesn&#8217;t understand. Police officers and politicians are not some authority figures that you must follow unquestioningly. They are our servants, and we&#8217;re their masters. They exist to serve all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: aykiribakis</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/michael-van-der-galien/erdogan-takes-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-5254452</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aykiribakis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry but you still do not want to understand. They were not arrested because of standing there or drinking alcohol. They called the police &quot;fascist&quot; and argued with the police. We do not exactly know what else they said, but it is clear that they were drunk and they probably said more than that. Based on what, do you think the police just arrested them for drinking alcohol? Can you say they would still be arrested if they would not have called the police &quot;fascist&quot; and argued? I&#039;m sure they were not the only people who were drinking there and in the surrounding places. But only they were arrested. I think this explains everything. This is clearly not a drinking issue.

You simply cannot call police &quot;fascist&quot; and cannot say &quot;what are you doing here, go...&quot; to stop them. According the the law insulting and resisting to the police is a crime. You can make a quick google search.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but you still do not want to understand. They were not arrested because of standing there or drinking alcohol. They called the police &#8220;fascist&#8221; and argued with the police. We do not exactly know what else they said, but it is clear that they were drunk and they probably said more than that. Based on what, do you think the police just arrested them for drinking alcohol? Can you say they would still be arrested if they would not have called the police &#8220;fascist&#8221; and argued? I&#8217;m sure they were not the only people who were drinking there and in the surrounding places. But only they were arrested. I think this explains everything. This is clearly not a drinking issue.</p>
<p>You simply cannot call police &#8220;fascist&#8221; and cannot say &#8220;what are you doing here, go&#8230;&#8221; to stop them. According the the law insulting and resisting to the police is a crime. You can make a quick google search.</p>
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		<title>By: aykiribakis</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/michael-van-der-galien/erdogan-takes-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-5330417</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aykiribakis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry but you still do not want to understand. They were not arrested because of standing there or drinking alcohol. They called the police &quot;fascist&quot; and argued with the police. We do not exactly know what else they said, but it is clear that they were drunk and they probably said more than that. Based on what, do you think the police just arrested them for drinking alcohol? Can you say they would still be arrested if they would not have called the police &quot;fascist&quot; and argued? I&#039;m sure they were not the only people who were drinking there and in the surrounding places. But only they were arrested. I think this explains everything. This is clearly not a drinking issue.

You simply cannot call police &quot;fascist&quot; and cannot say &quot;what the hell are you doing here&quot; to stop them. According the the law insulting and resisting to the police is a crime. You can make a quick google search.

http://www.avukatimweb.net/ind...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but you still do not want to understand. They were not arrested because of standing there or drinking alcohol. They called the police &#8220;fascist&#8221; and argued with the police. We do not exactly know what else they said, but it is clear that they were drunk and they probably said more than that. Based on what, do you think the police just arrested them for drinking alcohol? Can you say they would still be arrested if they would not have called the police &#8220;fascist&#8221; and argued? I&#8217;m sure they were not the only people who were drinking there and in the surrounding places. But only they were arrested. I think this explains everything. This is clearly not a drinking issue.</p>
<p>You simply cannot call police &#8220;fascist&#8221; and cannot say &#8220;what the hell are you doing here&#8221; to stop them. According the the law insulting and resisting to the police is a crime. You can make a quick google search.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.avukatimweb.net/ind" rel="nofollow">http://www.avukatimweb.net/ind</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: aykiribakis</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/michael-van-der-galien/erdogan-takes-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-5330418</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aykiribakis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry but you still do not want to understand. They were not arrested because of standing there or drinking alcohol. They called the police &quot;fascist&quot; and argued with the police. We do not exactly know what else they said, but it is clear that they were drunk and they probably said more than that. Based on what, do you think the police just arrested them for drinking alcohol? Can you say they would still be arrested if they would not have called the police &quot;fascist&quot; and argued? I&#039;m sure they were not the only people who were drinking there and in the surrounding places. But only they were arrested. I think this explains everything. This is clearly not a drinking issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but you still do not want to understand. They were not arrested because of standing there or drinking alcohol. They called the police &#8220;fascist&#8221; and argued with the police. We do not exactly know what else they said, but it is clear that they were drunk and they probably said more than that. Based on what, do you think the police just arrested them for drinking alcohol? Can you say they would still be arrested if they would not have called the police &#8220;fascist&#8221; and argued? I&#8217;m sure they were not the only people who were drinking there and in the surrounding places. But only they were arrested. I think this explains everything. This is clearly not a drinking issue.</p>
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		<title>By: aykiribakis</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/michael-van-der-galien/erdogan-takes-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-5254450</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aykiribakis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry but you still do not want to understand. They were not arrested because of standing there or drinking alcohol. They called the police &quot;fascist&quot; and argued with the police. We do not exactly know what else they said, but it is clear that they were drunk and they probably said more than that. Based on what, do you think the police just arrested them for drinking alcohol? Can you say they would still be arrested if they would not have called the police &quot;fascist&quot; and argued? I&#039;m sure they were not the only people who were drinking there and in the surrounding places. But only they were arrested. I think this explains everything. This is clearly not a drinking issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but you still do not want to understand. They were not arrested because of standing there or drinking alcohol. They called the police &#8220;fascist&#8221; and argued with the police. We do not exactly know what else they said, but it is clear that they were drunk and they probably said more than that. Based on what, do you think the police just arrested them for drinking alcohol? Can you say they would still be arrested if they would not have called the police &#8220;fascist&#8221; and argued? I&#8217;m sure they were not the only people who were drinking there and in the surrounding places. But only they were arrested. I think this explains everything. This is clearly not a drinking issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ege Görgülü</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/michael-van-der-galien/erdogan-takes-revenge/comment-page-1/#comment-5254437</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ege Görgülü]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the follow-up but you seem to think that it&#039;s normal for police to get into arguments with by-standers and arrest them because of it. It&#039;s not. What exactly is the crime here?

You also seem to have missed the part where the beaten up waiter says the police commented on the drinkers first, saying sth like &quot;They&#039;re drinking alcohol in this holy month. Curse them!&quot;. 

I would be ok if this was coming from a regular citizen. It&#039;s an opinion, no biggie. I would argue and defend my rights and that would be it. 

But you simply cannot say sth like that in a position of power. You&#039;re there as an appointed officer of the state, a servant to ALL its citizens. The minute you say sth like that, it becomes religious oppression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the follow-up but you seem to think that it&#8217;s normal for police to get into arguments with by-standers and arrest them because of it. It&#8217;s not. What exactly is the crime here?</p>
<p>You also seem to have missed the part where the beaten up waiter says the police commented on the drinkers first, saying sth like &#8220;They&#8217;re drinking alcohol in this holy month. Curse them!&#8221;. </p>
<p>I would be ok if this was coming from a regular citizen. It&#8217;s an opinion, no biggie. I would argue and defend my rights and that would be it. </p>
<p>But you simply cannot say sth like that in a position of power. You&#8217;re there as an appointed officer of the state, a servant to ALL its citizens. The minute you say sth like that, it becomes religious oppression.</p>
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		<title>By: hulo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hulo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 06:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, of course!  They were very very friendly!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, of course!  They were very very friendly!</p>
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		<title>By: aykiribakis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aykiribakis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 03:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The information in the links you posted are misleading. Someone who does not know Turkey and the realities of Turkey well, might believe that. But I cannot. 

In the past, it was very difficult for those type of abuses to become a public issue, they were kept secret because of the social pressure. Now we are a more open society. Also we have strict laws and regulations. People and especially women are more educated and conscious. When they face any abuse they go to the police and a case is opened immediately. So the official numbers are higher now for that reason. But it is just an illusion.

The international press also was not interested in these issues that much in the past. Now they seem to be interested because bad news about Turkey sell quite well nowadays, for some reason :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The information in the links you posted are misleading. Someone who does not know Turkey and the realities of Turkey well, might believe that. But I cannot. </p>
<p>In the past, it was very difficult for those type of abuses to become a public issue, they were kept secret because of the social pressure. Now we are a more open society. Also we have strict laws and regulations. People and especially women are more educated and conscious. When they face any abuse they go to the police and a case is opened immediately. So the official numbers are higher now for that reason. But it is just an illusion.</p>
<p>The international press also was not interested in these issues that much in the past. Now they seem to be interested because bad news about Turkey sell quite well nowadays, for some reason <img src="http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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