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	<title>Comments on: Cruciphobia at Mt. Soledad</title>
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		<title>By: Proteios</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Proteios]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2013 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The new atheism is forming a cult of sorts that must preach, market it&#039;s idea and delete the belief it has set itself against. I&#039;m not sure how else they would do it, as a group that defines themselves on wht they don&#039;t believe is otherwise silly unles you start formalizing a transient form of secular humanism and relativism. As a scientist I find it amusing they seek to monopolize the field of science as atheism itself is a form of intellectual laziness. Recall how many decades it took before they accepted the Big Bang theory, which was put forth by Father Georges Lemaitre.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new atheism is forming a cult of sorts that must preach, market it&#8217;s idea and delete the belief it has set itself against. I&#8217;m not sure how else they would do it, as a group that defines themselves on wht they don&#8217;t believe is otherwise silly unles you start formalizing a transient form of secular humanism and relativism. As a scientist I find it amusing they seek to monopolize the field of science as atheism itself is a form of intellectual laziness. Recall how many decades it took before they accepted the Big Bang theory, which was put forth by Father Georges Lemaitre.</p>
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		<title>By: USARetired</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[USARetired]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2013 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I first visited this Memorial 57 years ago, have visited many times since and have not been a California resident for 48 years. I day I see it removed will be the day I reverse my opinion  on armed insurrection!
Any future candidates who vows to keep this national treasure should receive all the votes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first visited this Memorial 57 years ago, have visited many times since and have not been a California resident for 48 years. I day I see it removed will be the day I reverse my opinion  on armed insurrection!<br />
Any future candidates who vows to keep this national treasure should receive all the votes!</p>
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		<title>By: JacksonPearson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JacksonPearson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[..I..(-.-)..I.. the ACLU.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..I..(-.-)..I.. the ACLU.</p>
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		<title>By: Consider</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Consider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;.. the country, and what currently passes for &#039;courts&#039; ,increase their hostility to religion on almost an hourly basis.&quot;

From your mouth to Gods&#039; ears...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;.. the country, and what currently passes for &#8216;courts&#8217; ,increase their hostility to religion on almost an hourly basis.&#8221;</p>
<p>From your mouth to Gods&#8217; ears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Penobscott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Penobscott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps if the cross could be somehow encased in urine and designated as &quot;art&quot;, the complaints would go away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps if the cross could be somehow encased in urine and designated as &#8220;art&#8221;, the complaints would go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Consider</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Consider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; I never met the atheist capable of proving he had enough &#039;god like knowledge&#039; to substantiate his views&quot;.

So you consider the existence of Zeus, Baal, Shiva, Amon Ra etc, a possibility?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I never met the atheist capable of proving he had enough &#8216;god like knowledge&#8217; to substantiate his views&#8221;.</p>
<p>So you consider the existence of Zeus, Baal, Shiva, Amon Ra etc, a possibility?</p>
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		<title>By: Consider</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Consider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 13:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an example of critical thinking and emotional intelligence!
Suddenly we can dispense with law and order, otherwise so dear to types like this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an example of critical thinking and emotional intelligence!<br />
Suddenly we can dispense with law and order, otherwise so dear to types like this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Consider</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Consider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A creature who ridicules Darwin, dares to call others idiots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A creature who ridicules Darwin, dares to call others idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a prime example of our libtarded re-education system at it&#039;s finest, zero critical thinking skills and always high on emotional stupidity. When the SHTF, I consider this useful idiot a candidate for  Darwin Award, and it may get a honorable mention to boot!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a prime example of our libtarded re-education system at it&#8217;s finest, zero critical thinking skills and always high on emotional stupidity. When the SHTF, I consider this useful idiot a candidate for  Darwin Award, and it may get a honorable mention to boot!</p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want to stop this bloody nonsense, start getting into the faces of these militant commi atheist and dare them to do something about it, ignore the so called judicial ruling and anyone who comes to take down the cross, have at it, when a few of them are sent to the hospital, they will quit this nonsense, a little pain issued out to these scumbags goes a long ways.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to stop this bloody nonsense, start getting into the faces of these militant commi atheist and dare them to do something about it, ignore the so called judicial ruling and anyone who comes to take down the cross, have at it, when a few of them are sent to the hospital, they will quit this nonsense, a little pain issued out to these scumbags goes a long ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Consider</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Consider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is not only an issue of state-church separation, but also an aestetic question and  has something to do also with morbity: should tools for execution of people be paraded on every other hilltop or every church tower? The cross  has been a Roman means of execution of, euh, criminals but also we are told, innocent people.
Later, for this purpose axes, gallows, guillotines, electric chairs, gas chambers etc. were used.
One can only imagine that had Jesus lived and executed in another era (if he exitsed at all), people would wear little replicas of guillotines on their neck laces, or gallows in all scales would squall from every hill top, and church roof.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not only an issue of state-church separation, but also an aestetic question and  has something to do also with morbity: should tools for execution of people be paraded on every other hilltop or every church tower? The cross  has been a Roman means of execution of, euh, criminals but also we are told, innocent people.<br />
Later, for this purpose axes, gallows, guillotines, electric chairs, gas chambers etc. were used.<br />
One can only imagine that had Jesus lived and executed in another era (if he exitsed at all), people would wear little replicas of guillotines on their neck laces, or gallows in all scales would squall from every hill top, and church roof.</p>
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		<title>By: Moa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Jeff for the recommendations. I&#039;ll take a look at Schaeffer&#039;s writings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeff for the recommendations. I&#8217;ll take a look at Schaeffer&#8217;s writings.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Ludwig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Ludwig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your view is the more classic liberalism. Unfortunately, the secularist/tolerant agenda has been co-opted by the secularist/militant agenda. However, I would refer you to any of the books by Francis Schaeffer who might have some thought provoking ideas for you to consider.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your view is the more classic liberalism. Unfortunately, the secularist/tolerant agenda has been co-opted by the secularist/militant agenda. However, I would refer you to any of the books by Francis Schaeffer who might have some thought provoking ideas for you to consider.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Ludwig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Ludwig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Twenty-four years these rotten atheistic schemers are screaming their offense?!  What pathetic individuals. So full of hate!  The article is an incredible survey of an event in the so-called culture wars (really a war against Christianity and the Christian/European roots of Western Civilization).  Michelle Malkin has done another one of her many good services to humanity by reviewing the history of the Mt. Soledad Cross and the latest episode of the saga.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twenty-four years these rotten atheistic schemers are screaming their offense?!  What pathetic individuals. So full of hate!  The article is an incredible survey of an event in the so-called culture wars (really a war against Christianity and the Christian/European roots of Western Civilization).  Michelle Malkin has done another one of her many good services to humanity by reviewing the history of the Mt. Soledad Cross and the latest episode of the saga.</p>
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		<title>By: LawReader</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LawReader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2013 00:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amusingly, I had a liberal &#039;atheist&#039; (full disclosure - I&#039;m an agnostic, because I never met the atheist capable of proving he had enough &#039;god like knowledge&#039; to substantiate his views) - argue with me the other day that issues like this &#039;don&#039;t arise from intolerance, but &#039;Constitutional&#039; validity. Having just a tad more legal background, I assured him I was pretty sure &#039;display of...&#039; did not amount to the &#039;state establishment of religion&#039; the founders were concerned with. He argued, as most people on his side of the equation, that &#039;forcing people to look at it...&#039; constituted that &#039;infringement&#039; he so righteously championed against...



Curiously - he somehow had the gall to &#039;pooh-pooh&#039; the notion that there was no difference in his viewpoints - &lt;i&gt;than there would be be in banning construction of a church on a public street, &lt;/i&gt;as the liberal &#039;trigger&#039; seems to be &#039;in my field of vision&#039; - and hey, taxpayer streets...


It&#039;s rather interesting watching this from a &#039;sidelines&#039; point of view - but it&#039;s also rather obvious that the country - and what currently passes for &#039;courts&#039; - &lt;i&gt;increase their hostility to religion on almost an hourly basis.&lt;/i&gt;


Or - as some military &#039;diversity&#039; bozo with veto powers apparently just noted - &#039;You can&#039;t send a *Christ*mas card to a military address...&#039;.


One suspects the &#039;state religion&#039; - if established by liberals - would best be described as &lt;b&gt;the Church of *Intolerance*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amusingly, I had a liberal &#8216;atheist&#8217; (full disclosure &#8211; I&#8217;m an agnostic, because I never met the atheist capable of proving he had enough &#8216;god like knowledge&#8217; to substantiate his views) &#8211; argue with me the other day that issues like this &#8216;don&#8217;t arise from intolerance, but &#8216;Constitutional&#8217; validity. Having just a tad more legal background, I assured him I was pretty sure &#8216;display of&#8230;&#8217; did not amount to the &#8216;state establishment of religion&#8217; the founders were concerned with. He argued, as most people on his side of the equation, that &#8216;forcing people to look at it&#8230;&#8217; constituted that &#8216;infringement&#8217; he so righteously championed against&#8230;</p>
<p>Curiously &#8211; he somehow had the gall to &#8216;pooh-pooh&#8217; the notion that there was no difference in his viewpoints &#8211; <i>than there would be be in banning construction of a church on a public street, </i>as the liberal &#8216;trigger&#8217; seems to be &#8216;in my field of vision&#8217; &#8211; and hey, taxpayer streets&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s rather interesting watching this from a &#8216;sidelines&#8217; point of view &#8211; but it&#8217;s also rather obvious that the country &#8211; and what currently passes for &#8216;courts&#8217; &#8211; <i>increase their hostility to religion on almost an hourly basis.</i></p>
<p>Or &#8211; as some military &#8216;diversity&#8217; bozo with veto powers apparently just noted &#8211; &#8216;You can&#8217;t send a *Christ*mas card to a military address&#8230;&#8217;.</p>
<p>One suspects the &#8216;state religion&#8217; &#8211; if established by liberals &#8211; would best be described as <b>the Church of *Intolerance*</b></p>
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		<title>By: Fritz Kohlhaas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fritz Kohlhaas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an Atheist I&#039;m not offended by the Cross. Many of my friends are
Christians and I wish them a Merry Christmas. I don&#039;t care what people believe. Everyone has the right to follow his/her own conscience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Atheist I&#8217;m not offended by the Cross. Many of my friends are<br />
Christians and I wish them a Merry Christmas. I don&#8217;t care what people believe. Everyone has the right to follow his/her own conscience.</p>
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		<title>By: Erudite Mavin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erudite Mavin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your gratuitous Jew hating comment is typical of those who don&#039;t know the facts.
I live in San Diego and know too well the years of this fight.  The group you mention is one of many over the years.
The Left and Libertarians hate the Jews.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your gratuitous Jew hating comment is typical of those who don&#8217;t know the facts.<br />
I live in San Diego and know too well the years of this fight.  The group you mention is one of many over the years.<br />
The Left and Libertarians hate the Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: Moa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m an atheist, but more importantly I&#039;m a &quot;secularist&quot;. That means I follow Voltaire&#039;s famous dictum, &quot;I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it&quot;.



The problem is that some &quot;atheists&quot; want to dictate scientific truth to you. This is totalitarianism - even if they are right.


Many of the problems today are not atheism or fundamental Christianity or Islam or even Marxism. The real problem is totalitarianism where they will not merely advocate their ideas in public debate, but will use coercion and the power of the State to eliminate competing ideas (such as a cross on a memorial).


Note: I&#039;m not advocating the fallacy of &quot;moral relativism&quot; where all ideas are held to be equally valid/worthy. What a secularist supports is a competitive marketplace for ideas, where ideas must survive on their merits in open debate, and *mostly importantly* the State does not favor any ideas (although the State *must* favor verifiable truth over untruth - which is why the State education must include established science and the Scientific Method).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an atheist, but more importantly I&#8217;m a &#8220;secularist&#8221;. That means I follow Voltaire&#8217;s famous dictum, &#8220;I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it&#8221;.</p>
<p>The problem is that some &#8220;atheists&#8221; want to dictate scientific truth to you. This is totalitarianism &#8211; even if they are right.</p>
<p>Many of the problems today are not atheism or fundamental Christianity or Islam or even Marxism. The real problem is totalitarianism where they will not merely advocate their ideas in public debate, but will use coercion and the power of the State to eliminate competing ideas (such as a cross on a memorial).</p>
<p>Note: I&#8217;m not advocating the fallacy of &#8220;moral relativism&#8221; where all ideas are held to be equally valid/worthy. What a secularist supports is a competitive marketplace for ideas, where ideas must survive on their merits in open debate, and *mostly importantly* the State does not favor any ideas (although the State *must* favor verifiable truth over untruth &#8211; which is why the State education must include established science and the Scientific Method).</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Pataki</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby Pataki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Militant Atheists&quot;???


The main group that wants the Mt. Soledad Cross removed is a JEWISH Veterans group.


Republicans are scared of the Jews.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Militant Atheists&#8221;???</p>
<p>The main group that wants the Mt. Soledad Cross removed is a JEWISH Veterans group.</p>
<p>Republicans are scared of the Jews.</p>
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		<title>By: nomoretraitors</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/michellemalkin/cruciphobia-at-mt-soledad-the-cross-the-left-cant-bear/comment-page-1/#comment-5338761</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s ship the atheists to a more hospitable place, like North Korea or Cuba]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s ship the atheists to a more hospitable place, like North Korea or Cuba</p>
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