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		<title>By: Mike in VA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike in VA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 22:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not so certain about that, Chezwick. 
 
If anything is going to cripple our ability to check Iran&#039;s nuclear ambitions, it&#039;s the Obama Administration. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not so certain about that, Chezwick. </p>
<p>If anything is going to cripple our ability to check Iran&#039;s nuclear ambitions, it&#039;s the Obama Administration. </p>
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		<title>By: fiddler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fiddler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 20:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed. The outcome was very messy while the motive was good. We basically had pretty much blow-by-blow sugical strikes were mosques were shown not to be damaged. The military (at least in the beginning) was extremely careful not to offend. I will never forget our illustrious Senator Reid saying, &quot;The War is lost!&quot; (UUUUGGGGGHHHH). One only wonders how Iran will be handled. I don&#039;t think we can take Amadinijad&#039;s threats lightly. Certainly Israel can&#039;t. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. The outcome was very messy while the motive was good. We basically had pretty much blow-by-blow sugical strikes were mosques were shown not to be damaged. The military (at least in the beginning) was extremely careful not to offend. I will never forget our illustrious Senator Reid saying, &quot;The War is lost!&quot; (UUUUGGGGGHHHH). One only wonders how Iran will be handled. I don&#039;t think we can take Amadinijad&#039;s threats lightly. Certainly Israel can&#039;t. </p>
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		<title>By: fiddler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fiddler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 20:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the misspellings folks! It&#039;s hard not to tremble with anger over insensitive rants from people so entrenched in university indoctrination. Those who seem to venerate the likes of Bill Ayers. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the misspellings folks! It&#039;s hard not to tremble with anger over insensitive rants from people so entrenched in university indoctrination. Those who seem to venerate the likes of Bill Ayers. </p>
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		<title>By: fiddler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fiddler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 20:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It started with nearly 3,000 people being burned, or crushed to death in a tall hight-rise one day at work from a missle containing several of their countrymen. This arose from a open society where Middler Easterners could get flight training without having to learn to land. HOW TERRIBLE it would have been to DENY these Middle-Easterners the opportunity to fly our airliners. What a lesson we GULLIBLE Americans have to learn from our own openness! Dare I say our own MORALITY! While you orbit around Jupiter, ask yourself where it all began and where it all ends. It seems to me that the 3,000 some odd &quot;Eikmans&quot; as Ward Churchill called them were -- to you -- collateral damage to the evil country you love to hate! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It started with nearly 3,000 people being burned, or crushed to death in a tall hight-rise one day at work from a missle containing several of their countrymen. This arose from a open society where Middler Easterners could get flight training without having to learn to land. HOW TERRIBLE it would have been to DENY these Middle-Easterners the opportunity to fly our airliners. What a lesson we GULLIBLE Americans have to learn from our own openness! Dare I say our own MORALITY! While you orbit around Jupiter, ask yourself where it all began and where it all ends. It seems to me that the 3,000 some odd &quot;Eikmans&quot; as Ward Churchill called them were &#8212; to you &#8212; collateral damage to the evil country you love to hate! </p>
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		<title>By: fiddler</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/nick-cohen/a-liberals-anguish/comment-page-1/#comment-4343636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fiddler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard of people being fed feet first into plastic shredders. Who do you think the US should answer to? The world court of human opinion? I myself have invisioned putting &quot;bubble&quot; over the entire Middle East (except for Israel) so they can keep all their little skirmishes to themselves. Then there would be no &quot;useful idots&quot; right? What do YOU do with mass murderers? What about Polpat? Better to arm-chair quarterback and diss your country. I guess that makes you morally superior. But the &quot;useful idiot was finally caught&quot;. I remember tha the late Peter Jennings seemed to almost lament the way Saddam&#039;s statue was torn down and looked for ways to criticize the US military while this was going on. Once a liberal... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard of people being fed feet first into plastic shredders. Who do you think the US should answer to? The world court of human opinion? I myself have invisioned putting &quot;bubble&quot; over the entire Middle East (except for Israel) so they can keep all their little skirmishes to themselves. Then there would be no &quot;useful idots&quot; right? What do YOU do with mass murderers? What about Polpat? Better to arm-chair quarterback and diss your country. I guess that makes you morally superior. But the &quot;useful idiot was finally caught&quot;. I remember tha the late Peter Jennings seemed to almost lament the way Saddam&#039;s statue was torn down and looked for ways to criticize the US military while this was going on. Once a liberal&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Jim_C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim_C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you think invading Iraq was the appropriate response to 9/11? If you think &quot;leftist/dems&quot; prevented us from &quot;winning&quot; in Iraq, you are way, way too stupid to vote. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you think invading Iraq was the appropriate response to 9/11? If you think &quot;leftist/dems&quot; prevented us from &quot;winning&quot; in Iraq, you are way, way too stupid to vote. </p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/nick-cohen/a-liberals-anguish/comment-page-1/#comment-4343603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is why we should have put saddams generals in charge, they would have got the army and intelligence folks back online and brought stability and control of the country, we could have had a few troops to oversee things and got out within 6 months of the first shot being fired, too bad when I told that idiot Bremmer this, he thought that the muslims of the country would love us, he was dead wrong and we paid too a high of price for it, especially considering that we tied the hands our our troops in the proccess. so we took 3 times as many casulties than we should have.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is why we should have put saddams generals in charge, they would have got the army and intelligence folks back online and brought stability and control of the country, we could have had a few troops to oversee things and got out within 6 months of the first shot being fired, too bad when I told that idiot Bremmer this, he thought that the muslims of the country would love us, he was dead wrong and we paid too a high of price for it, especially considering that we tied the hands our our troops in the proccess. so we took 3 times as many casulties than we should have.  </p>
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		<title>By: fiddler</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/nick-cohen/a-liberals-anguish/comment-page-1/#comment-4343598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fiddler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I understand what you are saying, hind sight is 20x20. It&#039;s much easier being a Neville Champerlain and let the &quot;gathering threat&quot; gather. Bush 41 caught flak for his calling Saddam Hussein an &quot;Adolf Hitler&quot;; but he was exactly right. 
 
It may be too late to stop Iran. What will Israel do? What would you do if you were Netanyahu and knew that little Mamood wanted to exterminate your people? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I understand what you are saying, hind sight is 20&#215;20. It&#039;s much easier being a Neville Champerlain and let the &quot;gathering threat&quot; gather. Bush 41 caught flak for his calling Saddam Hussein an &quot;Adolf Hitler&quot;; but he was exactly right. </p>
<p>It may be too late to stop Iran. What will Israel do? What would you do if you were Netanyahu and knew that little Mamood wanted to exterminate your people? </p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I put no moral equivilancy between us in the western world or the muslim world. By putting in oppresive secular generals in place against a muslim theocracy is well worth the effort, the bloody muslims hate us no matter what we do, so better for the little savages fear us, then they will respect us.  As long as the generals keep the muslims at bay, I&#039;m good with it and support it.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put no moral equivilancy between us in the western world or the muslim world. By putting in oppresive secular generals in place against a muslim theocracy is well worth the effort, the bloody muslims hate us no matter what we do, so better for the little savages fear us, then they will respect us.  As long as the generals keep the muslims at bay, I&#039;m good with it and support it.  </p>
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		<title>By: fiddler</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/nick-cohen/a-liberals-anguish/comment-page-1/#comment-4343584</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fiddler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 19:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How many UN resolutions were there? 15? It&#039;s not as though Bush willy-nilly got hawkish. And as I remember the 15th was a UNANIMOUS resolution. Add to that this was a fully voluntary military much unlike Vietnam, though Liberals far and wide wanted to compare the two. Add to that Jesse Jacksons own &quot;praise&quot; for the Bush administration that they &quot;showed constraint&quot; in retaliating for 9-11. I know, that was not the same thing but Bush, though history will not look kindly on this war, DID due dilligence. The Left dogged him about WMD&#039;s and Powell took a &quot;credibility hit&quot;, but just remember those honorable American dead VOLUNTEERED, they weren&#039;t drafted. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many UN resolutions were there? 15? It&#039;s not as though Bush willy-nilly got hawkish. And as I remember the 15th was a UNANIMOUS resolution. Add to that this was a fully voluntary military much unlike Vietnam, though Liberals far and wide wanted to compare the two. Add to that Jesse Jacksons own &quot;praise&quot; for the Bush administration that they &quot;showed constraint&quot; in retaliating for 9-11. I know, that was not the same thing but Bush, though history will not look kindly on this war, DID due dilligence. The Left dogged him about WMD&#039;s and Powell took a &quot;credibility hit&quot;, but just remember those honorable American dead VOLUNTEERED, they weren&#039;t drafted. </p>
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		<title>By: Asher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remaining passive is never the answer...give them an inch and they will take a mile just like they did on 911! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remaining passive is never the answer&#8230;give them an inch and they will take a mile just like they did on 911! </p>
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		<title>By: Asher</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/nick-cohen/a-liberals-anguish/comment-page-1/#comment-4343090</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saddam belonged in a Spider hole with the Vermine! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saddam belonged in a Spider hole with the Vermine! </p>
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		<title>By: Asher</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/nick-cohen/a-liberals-anguish/comment-page-1/#comment-4343088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tyranny by any dictator is not acceptable...Its not about Save your own Ass, its about stopping Tyranny and it was worth it! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyranny by any dictator is not acceptable&#8230;Its not about Save your own Ass, its about stopping Tyranny and it was worth it! </p>
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		<title>By: Asher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Asher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You bet it was the right thing to do..Sadam was a tyrant and so were his sons, Hussay and Cussay.  They committed genocide against their own people, just like Assad of Syria, and Bashir of Sudan! The chemical weapon labs were found, and they would have been using biological weapons if they hadn&#039;t bee stopped! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bet it was the right thing to do..Sadam was a tyrant and so were his sons, Hussay and Cussay.  They committed genocide against their own people, just like Assad of Syria, and Bashir of Sudan! The chemical weapon labs were found, and they would have been using biological weapons if they hadn&#039;t bee stopped! </p>
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		<title>By: Jim_C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim_C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re still really talking about nation-building and regime policing. All you would be doing is staving off the inevitable uprisings, crackdowns and religious sectarianism that would flare up the minute you turned your back. Is it really our purpose to depose one jerk and think we can make everything better by calling the shots in a country that is really an arbitrary territory held together by those general&#039;s oppressive regime? Do we want to be aligned with that?  
 
I&#039;m OK with them fighting each other, but these days that usually ends with Islamists in power. 
  
The good thing about the war with Iraq is that it was, at one point, a war with Iraq. I like having a country--a political entity--to war against. It lets you know which people to kill and which things to break. I happen to agree with your first two sentences. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re still really talking about nation-building and regime policing. All you would be doing is staving off the inevitable uprisings, crackdowns and religious sectarianism that would flare up the minute you turned your back. Is it really our purpose to depose one jerk and think we can make everything better by calling the shots in a country that is really an arbitrary territory held together by those general&#039;s oppressive regime? Do we want to be aligned with that?  </p>
<p>I&#039;m OK with them fighting each other, but these days that usually ends with Islamists in power. </p>
<p>The good thing about the war with Iraq is that it was, at one point, a war with Iraq. I like having a country&#8211;a political entity&#8211;to war against. It lets you know which people to kill and which things to break. I happen to agree with your first two sentences. </p>
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		<title>By: Jim_C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim_C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I give President Bush credit for action. I truly think he did what he thought best; and I think the resignation of Rumsfeld, the marginalization of Cheney, and the change in strategy in his second term proves he understood he had a couple of really bad apples. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give President Bush credit for action. I truly think he did what he thought best; and I think the resignation of Rumsfeld, the marginalization of Cheney, and the change in strategy in his second term proves he understood he had a couple of really bad apples. </p>
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		<title>By: Jim_C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim_C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 14:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a decent article, pointing out a few of the positive outcomes of the Iraq War. But its sneering headline says a lot about the editorial staff&#039;s maturity level. Read Chezwick&#039;s post above: the price in blood and treasure was too high. The price in national unity was too high. The people who opposed it were routinely called &quot;traitors.&quot; Now many of those who sneered agree with many of the opposition&#039;s arguments.  
  
If getting rid of Saddam Hussein were really the mission and the justification, let&#039;s face it: it could have been done in a much more efficient manner. And I think we should look long and hard at an administration who used the feeling we all had after 9/11 to pursue nation-building in Iraq.  
  
Unlike Hitchens, I don&#039;t know that war with Saddam was inevitable. But I do think the Iraq War, despite its overall failings, had many positive outcomes both for those under Saddam&#039;s yoke and for the West in terms of understanding what we&#039;re dealing with over there. I think it&#039;s brought our armed forces to a level unmatched in history. I think it&#039;s been a boon for our intelligence operations in the ME. But I can&#039;t reconcile the price. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a decent article, pointing out a few of the positive outcomes of the Iraq War. But its sneering headline says a lot about the editorial staff&#039;s maturity level. Read Chezwick&#039;s post above: the price in blood and treasure was too high. The price in national unity was too high. The people who opposed it were routinely called &quot;traitors.&quot; Now many of those who sneered agree with many of the opposition&#039;s arguments.  </p>
<p>If getting rid of Saddam Hussein were really the mission and the justification, let&#039;s face it: it could have been done in a much more efficient manner. And I think we should look long and hard at an administration who used the feeling we all had after 9/11 to pursue nation-building in Iraq.  </p>
<p>Unlike Hitchens, I don&#039;t know that war with Saddam was inevitable. But I do think the Iraq War, despite its overall failings, had many positive outcomes both for those under Saddam&#039;s yoke and for the West in terms of understanding what we&#039;re dealing with over there. I think it&#039;s brought our armed forces to a level unmatched in history. I think it&#039;s been a boon for our intelligence operations in the ME. But I can&#039;t reconcile the price. </p>
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		<title>By: Chezwick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chezwick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 04:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen.  
 
It&#039;s rather absurd to spend our blood and treasure trying to civilize people who are theologically commanded to celebrate barbarism....and who do so with such enthusiasm. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen.  </p>
<p>It&#039;s rather absurd to spend our blood and treasure trying to civilize people who are theologically commanded to celebrate barbarism&#8230;.and who do so with such enthusiasm. </p>
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		<title>By: Drakken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 04:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s the matter lib/progressive? Get your precious feelings hurt that muslims were dealt with accordingly?  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#039;s the matter lib/progressive? Get your precious feelings hurt that muslims were dealt with accordingly?  </p>
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		<title>By: Terrance Thor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terrance Thor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 03:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you. I would add that while a genocidal monster was removed from power and brought to justice by his people, his people brought into power another authoritarian regime and a life in which people are murdered willy nilly for the slightest disagreement with ANYONE. That is life in the Arab world and we aren&#039;t going to change that. I thought we could. We can&#039;t and maybe it is best that we don&#039;t. What we have done to empower Iran is criminal and we will pay for it even if Hagel, the idiot, says otherwise. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. I would add that while a genocidal monster was removed from power and brought to justice by his people, his people brought into power another authoritarian regime and a life in which people are murdered willy nilly for the slightest disagreement with ANYONE. That is life in the Arab world and we aren&#039;t going to change that. I thought we could. We can&#039;t and maybe it is best that we don&#039;t. What we have done to empower Iran is criminal and we will pay for it even if Hagel, the idiot, says otherwise. </p>
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