Can Israel Survive Obama?


gty_obama_netanyahu_press_conference_ll_130320_wgIn the spring of 2012, when I wrote ”The Last Israelis,” I thought that the pessimistic premise of my cautionary tale on Iranian nukes was grounded in realism. I had imagined a U.S. president who passively and impotently reacted to Iran’s nuclear ambitions, leaving it to tiny Israel to deal with the threat. But something far worse is happening: the Obama administration is actively making it harder for Israel to neutralize Iran’s nukes, and more likely that Iran will develop a nuclear arsenal.

A few months after my apocalyptic thriller was published, the New York Times reported that “intense, secret exchanges between American and Iranian officials [dating] almost to the beginning of President Obama’s term” resulted in an agreement to conduct one-on-one negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program. In those secret talks, did Obama long ago concede to Iran a nuclear capability? If so, then the current Geneva negotiations merely provide the international imprimatur for what Iran and the US have already privately agreed. That might explain why France (of all countries) had to reject a Geneva deal that would have left Iran with a nuclear breakout capability.

An investigation by the Daily Beast also reveals that the “Obama administration began softening sanctions on Iran after the election of Iran’s new president last June, months before the current round of nuclear talks in Geneva…” The report notes that Treasury Department notices show “that the U.S. government has all but stopped the financial blacklisting of entities and people that help Iran evade international sanctions since the election of its president, Hassan Rouhani, in June.”Obama’s desperately eager posture towards the smiling Mullahs has doomed any negotiation to failure by signaling that the U.S. fears confrontation more than anything else. Obama’s pathetic approach to the world’s most pressing national security threat also makes U.S. military action virtually impossible from a public relations and diplomatic standpoint because it promotes the naive idea that more diplomacy will resolve what a decade of talking hasn’t. And as long as the Iranians are “talking,” world opinion will also oppose an Israeli military strike, so naturally Iran will find ways to keep talking until it’s too late for Israel to act.

Obama has been downright duplicitous towards key Mideast allies. When in campaign mode or speaking to Israel supporters, Obama emphatically rejected containment as a policy option for dealing with Iranian nukes but he’s now taking steps that effectively make containment the only option available (while repeating the same empty reassurance that he has Israel’s back and won’t be duped by the smiling Iranians).

Despite his repeated reassurances, Obama rejected Israel’s estimates for how much more time Iran needs to develop its nuclear capability, and accepted overly optimistic timetables that assumed at least a year for more talking. Soon afterwards, the Institute for Science and International Security (ISIS) confirmed Israel’s estimates that Iran could be just weeks away from the critical nuclear threshold. Ignoring these critical facts, Obama has given diplomatic cover to Iran’s nuclear program by seizing on the cosmetic changes presented by the Iranian regime’s Ahmadinejad-to-Rouhani facelift.

That this makeover is just a ruse becomes obvious from this video, in which Rouhani boasts about masterfully manipulating diplomacy to achieve Iran’s nuclear objectives. So Obama must have known all along that “talks” are a fool’s errand that allow him to “fall back to” what has been his position all along: containment.

And despite repeated assurances from Secretary of State John Kerry that “no deal is better than a bad deal,” the current Geneva talks appear headed towards precisely that: a bad deal that leaves Iran with the very nuclear breakout capability that a diplomatic “solution” was supposed to prevent.

On the other hand, after Obama’s weak response to Syria’s crossing of his “red line” against the use of chemical weapons, the threat of U.S. force against Iranian nukes lost all credibility, making it even harder to change Iranian nuclear behavior without force. So containing the mess produced by weak negotiations is really all that’s left of Obama’s Iran “strategy.”

Only epic ineptitude or anti-Israel hostility no longer checked by reelection considerations can explain Obama’s moves on Iran. And the stakes couldn’t be higher for the rest of the world. After all, if Iran is the world’s biggest state sponsor of terrorism without nuclear weapons, what will terrorism look like once Iran goes nuclear? And there are already hints of the nuclear proliferation nightmare that will follow Iran’s nuclearization: Saudi Arabia has Pakistani nukes already lined up for purchase. Remarkably, Obama has known this since 2009 and apparently doesn’t care about that consequence any more than he does about Israel’s security. How else to explain his acceptance of the dreadful Geneva proposal granting Iran a nuclear weapons capability?

Exacerbating an existential threat against Israel is bad enough, but Obama has been an abysmal ally in other respects. Despite being history’s most aggressive president to punish leakers (except when they make him look good), Obama’s administration has repeatedly leaked sensitive Israeli information that could have easily provoked a Syrian-Israeli war. Obama summarily dumped a decades-long alliance with Egypt (that is also key to Israeli security) over some Egyptian state violence that is dwarfed by the decades-long brutality and terrorism of the Iranian regime now enjoying Obama’s overzealous courtship. And Obama’s image as a multi-lateralist who subordinates U.S. interests to higher principles has been exposed as a fraud following reports that he knew that the U.S. was spying on close European allies (contrary to his denials).

Add to that list Kerry’s increasing hostility to Israel and reports that the U.S. plans to impose its undoubtedly risky vision of peace on Israel in a few months, and you have Israel’s worst nightmare in the White House. The irony is that the less Israel feels secure because of Obama’s betrayals, the less likely it is to behave as Obama would like. Why humor Obama’s requests and take unrequited risks for peace with the Palestinians or indulge yet another round of counter-productive “talks” about Iran’s nuclear program when Obama has apparently abandoned Israel anyway?

As if Israel didn’t face enough threats and challenges, it must now survive the Obama nightmare until he’s out of office in 38 months. Isolated like never before thanks to Obama, the stark choices facing Israel’s leadership are unimaginably difficult. With roughly 75 times more territory, 10 times as many people, and two times as big an economy, Iran is a Goliath compared to Israel, and has repeatedly threatened to destroy it. So what does David (Israel) do now that Obama’s perfidy has been exposed? If the neighborhood bully is bigger than you, has threatened you, and is reaching for a bat, do you preemptively attack him before he gets the bat and becomes even more dangerous?

Noah Beck is the author of The Last Israelis, an apocalyptic novel about Iranian nukes and other geopolitical issues in the Middle East.

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  • Mladen_Andrijasevic

    How will Israel survive Obama?
    http://www.madisdead.blogspot.co.il/2013/11/how-will-israel-survive-obama.html

    The US president is appeasing Iran, and the consequences if Israel does not act will be catastrophic. Netanyahu’s reaction yesterday was the right one. He should draw as much attention to this insane policy of the Obama administration as possible. The Israeli analysts who believe that Israel could not possibly strike at Iran’s nuclear facilities itself if the international community finalizes the mooted deal in Geneva are wrong. When the alternative is nuclear annihilation you do what you have to do.
    What is profoundly disturbing is the apathy, ignorance, detachment and disinterest with which the world is following the events as they are unfolding – the most dangerous ever since the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.
    And the world reaction to Netanyahu’s warning – The New York Times: On Iran, Netanyahu Can Only Fume

    When has our civilization reached such levels of imbecility? Here we are, with the prospect of a nuclear war if Iran gets the bomb and The New York Times, the paper I once used to buy late Saturday night in Greenwich Village, has not the faintest idea what is at stake. This is scary.

  • Gog of Magog

    Israel, not Obama, got itself into this glorious mess with its stupid, short sighted policy of “nuclear ambiuity”.

    Obama and the 5+1 powers are going well beyond their call of duty by even officially acknowledging an indirect Israeli interest or involvement in the 5+1 negotiations with Iran.

    Israel has always rejected all forms of international nuclear arms control or surveillance. Israel is not a member of the IAEA. Israel does not recognize and rejects the UN’s Non Proliferation Treaty. Israel has always catagorically denied any form of international cooperation or surveillance regarding its nuclear installations. Israel has always categorically denied sharing any information concerning the size or nature of its nuclear stockpile.

    Now nuclear Juggernaut Israel comes banging at the conference door, demanding the implimentation of the very conventions and rules it itself categorically rejects.

    Israel has left these matters for others to decide and must now take its seat as an observer while those involved negotiate.

    • Valley of Hamon Gog

      go fuck yourself

      • WhiteHunter

        Couldn’t have put it better myself, Valley! Now if only Netanyahu–who knows something about mohammedan terrorism, since his own brother was killed leading the Raid on Entebbe–would only say the same to the sneering, supercilious gigolo Kerry and the Jew- and America-hating islamoafrican “community agitator,” that would be a good thing, indeed.

        • Eyanjeje

          Respond to Magog, don’t just shoot from the hip, Hunter.

      • Eyanjeje

        Respond to Magog, don’t be a demagogue instead

        • defcon 4

          Allah acktard.

        • ghanburighan

          google demagogue first, Ey. And also, STFU and go back to Tehran.

          • Eyanjeje

            The most anti-semites are in Europe. You might want to send me somewhere else

    • Abu Ali

      The only difference is that Israel has never threatheed to annihilate anyone. Whereas Iran has always said that it seek to destroy. Not only Israel by all the Sunni arab states. And BTW, dont fool yourself, once Isran has a nuclear weapon, it will be a threat to the western world….

      • Eyanjeje

        Lies

        • defcon 4

          I give your Al Taqiyya a 1 out of 10, because really, you’re not even trying Kareem.

          • Eyanjeje

            I’m an Israel loving Christian my friend, and truth is paramount especially amongst friends

          • ghanburighan

            Do you get paid by the post? Because seriously, what utter stupidity. Or are you actually that stupid you think you are swaying opinions with your imbecilic assinine BS?

          • Eyanjeje

            The intent was to add my one cent not sway radicals

  • TheOrdinaryMan

    So, Mr. Netanyahu, what are you waiting for? (Or, as Caroline Glick said last week,
    What did Obama threaten Israel with? And why is the PM being so quiet about it?)

  • cedars rebellion

    The real issue is after three more years, will Israel survive if the next President is a Democrat. The answer to that one is no.

  • http://fdnyretiree.com/ Ed FDNYRetiree

    Can Israel Survive Obama?

    Can AMERICA?

    • marcy

      Good answer,can America….

    • http://longhornproject.org/ Robin Rosenblatt

      The American Jewish Community may not survive Obama

  • JessieJames

    God is on Israels side.

    • ghanburighan

      As a Christian and a pastor, I must regretfully say that while your answer is (presumable) sincere, it is nevertheless extremely simplistic.

      Was God not on Israel’s side in AD70 when Rome razed Jerusalem and sent the Jews into exile? Was he not on their side for more than a millennium while there was no Jewish state and the Jews suffered pogroms under the Roman empire, the Ottoman empire, the Catholic church and the Czars and the Nazis and Stalin – to name but the worst? If he was not on their side then, why should he be on their side now? And if he was on their side then, when those things happened, why should he not also permit the eradication of the Israeli state now?

      • StanleyT

        Perhaps you should read the Bible. Everything that has happened to the Jewish people was predicted in “the curses”. And despite this, G0d promised that he would ensure the Jews always survive and that eventually, they would return to their homeland. Seems G0d has kept His word …

        • ghanburighan

          Really, Stan? Sarcasm? If your argument is so strong, why did you feel required to use scarcasm to someone respectfully disagreeing with you?
          It so happens that I do think that God has a special relationship with Israel, just that said relationship does not preclude Israel being nuked. Much as I would personally very much like such protection to be there.
          But I refuse to debate, since I am not trying to impress anyone. I’d love to have a conversation, but not if sarcasm is used in the place of rational argument.

    • marcy

      And I say amen to that……….

  • http://longhornproject.org/ Robin Rosenblatt

    It was last reported on 11-11: Due to America not stopping Iran from have a nuclear bomb. Saudi Arabian is getting nuclear missiles from Pakistan and will use them against Iran. America is starting a nuclear war!

    • Eyanjeje

      Cheap infantile logic. When push comes to shove the Saudis would embrace their Muslim brothers

      • ghanburighan

        Like Baathist Iraq embraced Shiite Iran, to name but one example? What planet do you live on?

        • Eyanjeje

          There was no West vs Arab issue to unite on.

  • ghanburighan

    If Iran develops and weaponizes nuclear warheads, then the probability that there will be a nuclear war in the Middle East rises exponentially.

    Israel is one of the very few powers in the region stable enough to entrust with nuclear warhead capacity. Iran is not. Iran’s leaders cannot bring prosperity to their subjects, so they must rule by force against a restless minority, and they must keep that minority a minority by uniting the majority behind a common cause. The Great Satan is that common cause, and Israel is the Great Satan’s regional lackey (according to the Mullahs, of course).

    Iran now knows beyond a shadow of a doubt, that with the most spineless administration in recent history in Washington DC, they can safely nuke Israel and all they will have to deal with is retaliation by Israel itself. The US will not retaliate in any meaningful way. The Obama administration will be more likely to collectively disembowel themselves with blunt forks than nuke anybody at all, least of all an enemy actually capable of some military response like Iran. And nuclear war that is the only warfare the US could possibly engage in with any hope of success in the Zagros mountains. The powerful American armies under Reagan would not have been able to invade (and hold) Iran. The gutted wraith under Obama could not invade Paraguay.

    Iran must include Mesopotamia under its direct rule to be a true economic power, as they were when they founded the Persian empire. The Iranian mountains are an excellent military refuge, but cannot support the population needed nor allow economic progress, since any infrastructure costs multiples of what it would cost in less rugged terrain. The one regional force capable of offering resistance is Israel. Having eliminated Israel, Tehran can do what it pleases in Iraq and Syria, with no-one to gainsay it. But they must bomb Tel Aviv first, absorb the retaliation (which, unlike the tiny state of Israel, they can afford, having too many civilians in the first place and needing something like a massive attack to work their subjects up into the necessary frenzy), and then proceed as they wish, with the very credible threat of nuclear attack if their regional adversaries resist too vigorously. They will probably avoid conflict with Saudi Arabia and stop short of Turkey, but Iraq and Syria would be gobbled up to the chorus of pathetic hand-waving and blame-shifting so well developed under Obama and the decadent West. They won’t waste time on Afghanistan (unless they Mullahs covet the immense mineral wealth under the barren dirt), and will probably be wary of Pakistan.

    All this was entirely avoidable. So avoidable that one must necessarily question whether such synchronized bungling can indeed be attributed to incompetence, or if the toppling of American from its throne as the last great superpower was not indeed deliberate. To actively seek to strengthen ones enemies, while abandoning allies to their fate and undermining them when at all possible, is hard to attribute to incompetence.

    As the waning of the British Empire was one of the direct causes of WWI (and WWII, which was really just scene 2 of WWI), so too the now undeniable and irrevocable waning of the American Empire might very likely provoke global conflict, as America’s emboldened and empowered foes fall on their weaker neighbors freshly out from under the shield of the dwindled armies of the USA.

    It might indeed happen that Barack Hussein Obama might be the single cause of WWIII. Let us hope and pray that the upcoming nuclear war in the Middle East stay in the Middle East. My advice to anyone in Israel with children: leave. now. don’t wait one more month. leave. now.

    • Eyanjeje

      Nobody should be entrusted with WMDs, how about that? It gives unfair influence.

      • defcon 4

        I think the only reason the muslimes haven’t committed a second Holocaust against the Jews of Israel is because of the Samson Option.

        • Eyanjeje

          Please, Israel would crush them without Nukes. They’ve done it before

      • ghanburighan

        But of course! So elegant and simple! Why has no-one ever thought of that before?

        So let me see, we eliminate nuclear weapons by decree (remember, this includes China), violá! But, while we are about it, let’s eliminate war, hunger, unemployment, illness, sadness, bad-hair days too. Since decrees are able to achieve the elimination of nuclear war, surely they are able to decree the elimination of all ills that beset mankind? No?

        Seriously, what an astoundingly naive and childish answer. If ‘nobody should be entrusted’ (convenient use of passive voice), then SOMEBODY has to do the ‘de-entrusting’, no? And pray, what means would this mysterious ‘somebody’ need to use to persuade those already equipped with nuclear warheads (among them China and North Korea) to relinquish them and those intending to be so equipped in the very near future (Iran), to summarily desist in the enterprise? A speech by that imbecile Obama? The Geneva convention on chemical warfare has been soooo effective, hasn’t it? Oh, wait….

        If your best suggestion is to ask the tooth fairy to solve world hunger, then you should really just shut up.

        • Eyanjeje

          No one should have it period. That was the original goal of the NPT, not creating a class of the “trusted”. There is no objective measure of that.

  • rebaaron

    This assessment is accurate and complete, except for one thing. It fails to point out that Obama is not doing this because he is stupid. No one is this stupid. He is doing it deliberately. Anyone willing to venture a guess as to why?

    • J Simson

      He is a Muslim?

      • defcon 4

        That would be my first guess, yet the zero has been pushing LGBT rights w/a vengeance, LGBT rights that are not in any way islamic.

        • logdon

          It’s called taqiyya.

          Or the Dar el Suhl where as long as Islamic objectives are in the heart the mouth can say what the kuffar wants to hear.

          • Toa

            You got it. One of both Muslim and Communist infiltrators’ most powerful tools is to institute policies, laws, cultural changes, etc. which they know will be highly corrosive to the country which they intend to overthrow.

    • Jsjk

      There is a blog post (at Powerline) which asked a similar question (Why would Obama capitulate to Iran?) The author, Paul Mirengoff, writes: “The answer, I believe, is ideology. Obama believes that Iran is at least as sinned against as sinning. That’s why, when attacked by fellow candidate Hillary Clinton for favoring negotiations with the Mullahs and other rogue rulers without preconditions, he [Obama] argued that this approach is necessary given past American arrogance. It’s also why his spokesman continues to talk about overcoming lack of trust between the two countries.” I believe this answers the question. It is Obama’s ideology; Obama’s world view.

  • Schlomo

    Iran is pursuing clean nuclear energy. I really hope they do get nukes so they can erase the terrorist and illegal state of israel once and for all.

    • J Simson

      So you support the genocide of the Jewish people. You are no different than Hitler.

      People like you are a case in point why Iran should not be allowed to have Nuclear weapons.

      • defcon 4

        I’d say he’s no different than muhammad, who was preaching a genocide of Jews before anyone on earth even spoke the German language.

        • Eyanjeje

          Dubious discuss

          • defcon 4

            Bukhari:V4B52N177
            “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘You Muslims will fight the Jews till some of them hide behind stones. The stones will betray them saying, “O Abdullah (slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”‘”

            Ishaq:441
            “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”‘”

            In Sahih Muslim: Book 041, Number 6985:
            Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

            “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels out to the last.’”
            Bukhari 4,55,547

          • Eyanjeje

            The bible portrays a one-sided God too, at least at first glance as you have done here

          • ghanburighan

            Eyanjeje, if you are a muslim and approve of the Mullahs’ goals, then your infantile pseudo ‘arguments’ and very poorly translated English are doing your cause no good at all. If you are not pro-Tehran, then you are simply making a fool of yourself. Seriously. If you want to be an effective fifth column, then lean English, and logic, and common sense.

          • Eyanjeje

            I am pro-no one. Just calling BS on both sides, which there is. Casting me as a non-westerner doesn’t mean a significant percentage of westerners don’t see things like I do. Both sides have a long list of wrongs and the NPT which Israel is not a signatory to but wants to enforce is a sham. BY THE WAY I’VE “LEANT” English enough. Effective fifth COLUMNIST you mean, English teacher.

          • ghanburighan

            Whatever, eyan, whatever. if it makes you feel proud to write gibberish, then by all means have fun. I no longer find it amusing, but I suppose it takes all sorts.

          • Eyanjeje

            You couldn’t find a more willing accomplice

    • Drakken

      You first raq head. The rest of your inbred fellow savages second.

    • Eyanjeje

      Nonsense and vile talk

      • defcon 4

        Infantile Al Taqiyya.

        • Eyanjeje

          Dude, cut the Al Taqiyya nonsense out, I’m an American who knows not what that means except I google it. Confront arguments and leave out the juvenile name calling behind a computer screen.Don’t be Netanyahu.

          • ghanburighan

            ‘knows not what’. Yeah. American. sure.

          • Eyanjeje

            Attack the arguments, don’t be a mop. If i’m an anti-semite, I wouldn’t be scared of spewing my crap behind a keyboard. You sound like I have something to be scared off.

          • ghanburighan

            Well I guess you’re good for comic relief, since you obviously don’t mind being the joke. Whatever, buddy, whatever.

  • Adrian

    It might be time for Israel to take off the Floaties and either sink or swim.

  • J Simson

    Can America survive Obama?

    • ghanburighan

      Actually I think the jury has already returned a verdict on that one, and the answer isn’t good. Survive as a state? Certainly. As a world military and economic superpower? Need you ask?

      • defcon 4

        What kind of state remains to be seen. A state of free men? Or a state of oppressed dhimmitude?

        • Nick Woodley

          Are the people slaves? Are you a slave?

          I know the answer for myself. I can’t answer for any of you….

          But so far, I’m not impressed.

          - N

          Edit: America will always survive in some fashion, until the day it does not.

          How many cowards will live? That is another question.

          Thoughts shape actions. Some of you here have already lost.

    • Dan

      I have to disappoint some. The answer is NO, not in the manner America is handling The Embarrassing now.

      • Nick Woodley

        If you’ve given up then it is indeed no, for you.

        - N

    • Nick Woodley

      Will the American people fight for their own country?

      - N

  • J Simson

    Yes Israel can. Israel needs to forge new relationships with Asian countries.

    Also Israel dependence on Air force which makes her dependent on USA for ammunition and spare parts can be overcome by investing in bomber/fighter drones.

    In addition Israel should invest in more Merkavah tanks, Rocket system like MLRS and ballistic missiles as an alternative to IAF.

    At the moment of truth Obama is likely to betray Israel.

    • ghanburighan

      True, but the if Iran is allowed a 1st nuclear strike – which they might well be willing to risk, since any retaliation, even nuclear, would not cripple their mountainous and dispersed state – then Israel would very likely not survive. An Israel devastated from two or three nuked cities (so long, Tel Aviv) would be ripe for land invasion. Would Obama provide ground forces to help defend her? Not a hope. All he would be capable (or willing?) to do would be to hide behind his ridiculous peace prize and express grave sorrow at such untoward violence, in a deep emotion-laden voice that sends shivers up his the legs of his lap-dog media.

      And yet a 1st strike by Isreal using conventional weapons would not disable Iran’s nuclear capabilities. And it would provide very real justification for Iranian retaliation, even nuclear. And 1st strike by Israel using nuclear weapons would make Israel an international pariah.

      Damned if they do. Dead if they don’t. Not a good time to live in Israel.

      • defcon 4

        What sad and depressing thoughts. Then again, there were American defeatists who figured the Nazis would win the war. American defeatists who conspired w/the Nazis. The Greatest Generation stood up to the f’ing Nazis and Imperial Japan, is the entire free world too weak to stand up to islam0nazism now?

        • ghanburighan

          It is not defeatism to say that there is little hope of victory. It is defeatism to say that since there is little hope of victory, we should not bother to fight and should seek to accommodate the enemy on the best possible terms. Since that is not what I said, I take strong objection to your reply, defcon. You perhaps did not intend insult, but to liken my words to those of defeatists and traitors is extremely objectionable.
          To open one’s eyes to see the strength of the enemy and the weakness of one’s defenses is not defeatism, but a call to courage. And if the fight is indeed hopeless (which I surely don’t think it is and certainly didn’t say so), then so what? Let us fight until defeat. Let us go down with the ship. A man’s primary responsibility is to his wife and children, but that not being an issue, by all means let us die for that which we consider to be a righteous cause.
          I think there is indeed hope for the state of Israel, but (in answer to your question) I don’t see it coming from the decadent West. America’s greatest generation is long gone, and in its place is a cohort of sniveling entitlement dolists. Israel stands alone today. May God grant them once again victory over their foes.

          • J Simson

            I like your approach. If I get into a fist fight I want to go in with my eyes open. How else will see the punches coming?

      • rebaaron

        International pariah doesn’t sound that bad considering the alternatives.
        It’s certainly a problem, but nothing like a nuclear Iran. Israel might have to tighten its belt, but it wouldn’t be forever.
        Richer or poorer, we would breathe more freely if the Ayatollahs with atomic bombs were no more.

        • ghanburighan

          I must agree. Faced with the binary choice of being dead or being a pariah, having nobody talk to you doesn’t sound so bad.

      • J Simson

        In every generation there is group of people or an ideology that plots to destroy the Jews.

        Every time they fail. We will see what happens with Iran.

        • ghanburighan

          I have no doubt that Tehran would fail, if its objective was to eradicate the Jews. This not for metaphysical reasons, but simply because it would require a global pogrom.

          But to eliminate Israel is entirely feasible. At the very least it would require paying a terrible price in nuclear retaliation, but since those paying it would be the hoi polloi, not the Mullahs themselves, then that wouldn’t stop them. Merchants of hate thrive when their followers are killed. Peace is their true and final nemesis. Doctrines of hate require a constant supply of martyrs to keep the bile flowing. Ask the palestinian authorities.

        • Nick Woodley

          Why wait?

          We should have supported Israel in attacking Iran years ago.

          - N

  • Attila_the_hun

    The Jews have survived Hitler and they will Survive Hussein O. The question is at what price. Don’t be surprised if The Saudis allow their territory to be used by Israeli attack against Iran. The middle east is pregnant to unspeakable mayhem.
    God help us all.

    • ghanburighan

      With due respect, you are answering a different question. The question is not, “will the Jews survive Obama?” (to which I would answer along with you, ‘of course’), but “will ISRAEL survive Obama?”. That, I fear, is a far more dubious issue. And I wouldn’t bet my family’s lives on that.

      • J Simson

        What other option do the Jews have?

        If the Jews are stateless they will become easy targets and defenseless against the new Nazis. The liberals and Islamists.

        • ghanburighan

          Simon, I completely agree that Israel can and should use any means at its disposal to resist the Mullahs, who never tire of calling for the total destruction of Israel. By all means. I just wouldn’t bet the lives of my children on them succeeding. This not because they lack the skills, but because Israel, being a democracy (unlike Iran), does not have the political will to use the means necessary. Just bombing some of the few exposed nuclear facilities in Iran will simply make the world even more hostile to Israel, and achieve very little in the way of delaying (and even less in frustrating) the Mullahs’ plans for nuclear war capability. I unquestioningly applaud their use of Stuxnet, Duqu and Flame. If Israel could find a way to cripple the Mullahs’ plans for nuclear war capability, even if it required preemptive nuclear strikes, I wouldn’t blame them for an instant. Any government worth its name has the obligation to defend the nation against its declared enemies. If someone promises to kill my family at the first available opportunity, and I find myself capable of preemptively stopping them, even if the only means was to kill them, I will do so unhesitatingly and without even a twinge of conscience. They declared war on me when they called for my destruction and the death of my children, let them pay the piper’s bill without whining.

        • Nick Woodley

          Maybe they should trust in God and launch some missiles….

          - N

      • Nick Woodley

        Are you implying that Obama is stronger than Israel?

        Why don’t you pick up a Bible?

        Answer’s in there.

        - N

        • ghanburighan

          If you want to make an argument, Nick, the onus is on you to make your own point. If you don’t know the Bible well enough to make your point, then it behooves you to get to know it well enough before trying to use it to back up what you’re saying.

          • Nick Woodley

            Your ‘argument’ is with God, you lazy slack-jawed idiot.

            It would ‘behoove’ you to pull your head out of your a$$ and learn His Word….

            Not dispute it foolishly on an internet forum like a fourteen year old atheist teenage girl.

            God will always champion the Jews. They are his people. Even in Revelations, Jerusalem is listed as being the last earthly city to stand through the apocalypse, which will be remade into the New Jerusalem, for the terrestrial paradise of the millennial Kingdom….before the second breaking of the world, the casting of Satan into the Pit, and the Ascension of all the eternally redeemed into Heaven.

            But you know nothing of that, because you don’t even read.

            You simpletons are a dime a dozen.

            Before you challenge your fellow believers online, why not renounce your own faith….so you can blaspheme with some integrity?

            Lol, devil’s fool….

            If this is what Yahweh has for his worshipers, no wonder he is displeased with our current generation of ‘Christians’.

            Feel free to run your mouth some more now, boy. Don’t look at scripture. Just keep arguing with me, while I ignore your heresies.

            Learn nothing. ;-)

            We are done.

            - N

          • ghanburighan

            Touched a raw nerve there about you knowing the Bible, Nick?
            If the modern state of Israel does survive, and I pray that God grant it does, it surely won’t be in any way at all because people like you who curse those who require of them Biblical arguments when they invoke the Bible. I certainly do know the Bible, Nick, but it increasingly appears that not only do you not know it, but lack the personal integrity to acknowledge your ignorance or character to remain silent. I am more than willing to be corrected by the countless people who know the Bible better than I, but to be cursed at when I request arguments to defend positions you took and for which you invoked the Bible?

            Shame on you, Nick. As a sincere Christian, which I presume you are, you can surely do better than that.

          • Nick Woodley

            I just down-raved you (and wasted less time).

            - N

          • ghanburighan

            I have done now what I should have done before ever replying to you, Nick. I have read your posts on other articles. I now retract my last sentence. You are simply a fool, and to bandy words with you would make me one too. My bad.

          • Nick Woodley

            Lol, I was willing to let this go. But I really don’t think that’s the case, ghan.

            If I see one re-print of anything that I have written that defies my religion (and supposedly yours) though….by all means, post it here for everyone to see….meaningless cursewords and all.

            I’ll wait. ;-)

            - N

          • ghanburighan

            For other readers’ sake, Nick, (although I am sure it will please you too), allow me to disabuse you of the notion that we share the same religion. Superficial semantic similarities aside, they have nothing in common.

    • defcon 4

      One of my friends had an interesting observation WRT your idea. He said the Saudis might happily (although reluctantly, as they would be violating centuries old islam0fascist dogma by doing so) allow Israel to stage attacks on Iran from Saudi Arabia — and then shoot down the Israelis when they came back.

    • Nick Woodley

      God only helps those who help themselves….not weak cowards who only call upon his name, grating his ears with their cries of helplessness as they do NOTHING to defend themselves.

      I’m not talking about the Jews.

      - N

  • nomoretraitors

    Netanyahu needs to tell Obama to p*ss off

    • Dan

      The big O is also embarassing the US. They should tell him to shut the Kerryup.

  • tokoloshiman

    obummer is the stone pulling israel down into the depths of despair. soon it will hit rock bottom and then maybe just maybe Israel can rise up again.

  • tokoloshiman

    obummer is acting in accordance with his muslim holy book and the eradication of jews and christians is the prime concern and aim . How much more proof does the west want. his own mosque is filled with mb supporters and he is one himself. all his appointees are anti jew anti israel. obummer is lying openly yet his lies are ignored by the left press. he is destroying the fabric of america from within. He has made the usa the laughing stock of the world, yet the senate is 100 % behind him. There can be no doubt that he and his family, with known ties to terrorists via malik his half brother, are supporters of terror.The fact that all reference to islamic terror has been written out of all the lexicons of government agencies and that profiling is verboten indicates a clear support for his acceptance that sharia should rule the land . Christianity and Judaism, the foundations of the american belief system are eroded away whilst obummer praises the contribution of the muslims to his once great country( what contributions)? This while christians being slaughtered by muslims in various islamic countries are completely ignored….
    The lies regarding Benghazi, the IRS scandalous behavior , the obama care boondoggle and lies, the spying etc etc. Are these not sufficient indication of this mans treachery.
    And the gullible americans voted him in twice! 8 years of destruction will severely curtail usa growth and with the noose of a $ 17 trillion debt around their necks and with it growing to $ 20 trillion soon, there is no end to this madness and the slide of america into anarchy.
    And then we can look forward to the Hillary years – hilarious they will be for sure with this lying cow in the drivers seat next!

    • defcon 4

      The fat bastage from Joisy would be no better. He’s just as much an islam0fascist collaborator as shrillery.

  • Geoffrey_Britain

    Israel can only survive Obama and his successor H. Clinton, if Israel re-examines its premise that Israel cannot survive without American support. That premise is leading Israel slowly to the gallows.

    • defcon 4

      Couldn’t it be said that recognizing the US government for what it is: part of the axis of evil, supporting and facilitating the spread of islam0fascism; could finally liberate Israel to act w/o regard to the wishes of a corrupt US government?

  • vladimirval

    Barack Obama has demonstrated time after time his affection for Islam and all it stands for and animosity towards our long time friends like Israel and Great Britain. He has a personal agenda and not the welfare of America nor the free world, that governs his actions. Yes Israel can survive Obama because it is a strong nation, with worthwhile values, and determined not to suffer the past atrocities forced on the Jewish people. They will not passively let the haters enslave them. That said, Israel is too dependent on U.S military arsenal abd must foster more cooperation with other nations. Obama is capable to cut Israel off from replacement of hardware and parts. American citizens have a big stake in Israel’s survival and it behooves us to support Israel in any actions it needs to take.

  • American1969

    Israel will survive. God has their backs.

    • Eyanjeje

      God has everybody’s back, MY FRIEND

  • MrUniteUs1

    What do you think about former President Bush speaking at a Jews for Jesus $100,000 a plate fundraiser?.

    Asked about Bush’s upcoming appearance at the Messianic Jewish Bible Institute (MJBI) event, Rabbi David Saperstein, the director of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, said, “It’s disappointing that he would give his stamp of approval to a group whose program is an express effort to convert Jews and not to accept the validity of the Jewish covenant.” Foxman was traveling overseas and unavailable to comment.

    (After this story published, Rabbi David Wolpe of Los Angeles’ Sinai Temple, whom Newsweekhas called the most influential rabbi in the country, tweeted, “This is infuriating.” On Monday, he published a story in Forbes Forward on the subject, writing, “the sudden rise of ‘Messianic Jews’ owes more to a clever way of misleading untutored Jews than to making theological sense. It should not receive the imprimatur of a former President of the United States.”)

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/11/george-w-bush-jews-for-jesus-messianic-jewish-bible-institute