Saudi Hypocrisy At Its Best

Few things offer surreal experiences as when Islam and the West interact—when 7th century primordialism encounters 21st century relativism.  Consider the issue of “interfaith dialogue.” In principle, it is a decent thing: Christians, Jews, Muslims, and others trying to reach a common ground and professing mutual respect. But what does one make of the gross contradictions that emerge when a human-rights violating nation calls for “dialogue,” even as it enforces religious intolerance on its own turf?

Enter Saudi Arabia.  Birthplace of Islam, the Arabian kingdom is also the one Muslim nation that regularly sponsors interfaith initiatives in the West—even as its official policy back home is to demonize and persecute the very faiths it claims to want to have an interfaith dialogue with.

Back in 2008, for example, in what was deemed an unprecedented move, Saudi King Abdullah “made an impassioned plea for dialogue among Muslims, Christians, and Jews,” going so far as to refer to the latter two as “our brothers.” His stated goal was to develop “respect among religions.”

The Saudi monarch’s most recent initiative reached fruition recently, on November 26, 2012, when the King Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz International Center for Interreligious and Intercultural Dialogue was launched in the Austrian capital, Vienna. According to its own website, the center “was founded to enable, empower and encourage dialogue among followers of different religions and cultures around the world.” Lending international legitimacy to this Saudi gesture of goodwill, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon was among those who attended the opening.

While all this ostensibly sounds well and good, consider the many incongruities, the many absurdities—initially demonstrated by the simple fact that Saudi Sheikh Abdul Rahman al-Sudais, who was quoted praising the Austrian-based center as proof that “Islam is a religion of dialogue and understanding and not a religion of enmity, fanaticism, and violence,” is also on record calling Jews “monkeys and pigs” and Christians “cross worshippers.”

Nor is he just a run-of-the-mill sheikh: he is the government-appointed imam of Saudi Arabia’s Grand Mosque in Mecca—Islam’s holiest site, where Christians, Jews, and others are routinely condemned and cursed during the prayers of the faithful.

But this is not surprising. Even the State Department’s most recent internal religious freedom report on Saudi Arabia notes that “Freedom of religion is neither recognized nor protected under the law and is severely restricted in practice.  The public practice of any religion other than Islam is prohibited, and there is no separation between state and religion.”

And this is the key point: Saudi Arabia’s brand of religious intolerance is not a product of the “Arab street,” terrorists, or mob violence.  It is institutionalized; it is enforced by the state itself.  In other words, religious intolerance is being enforced by the very people who claim to want to have dialogue with Christians and Jews under the umbrella of “tolerance” and “mutual respect.”

In this context, what, exactly, do they wish to talk about?

Do they wish to talk about how the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia—yet another top-ranked Saudi religious official—declared that it is “necessary to destroy all the churches of the region,” basing his verdict on the commands of Muslim prophet Muhammad?

Do they wish to talk about how, despite promising to reform their school textbooks, the Saudi education system continues to indoctrinate Muslim children with hatred and incitement, teaching that “Christians are the enemies of the Believers” and that the “the Apes are the people of the Sabbath, the Jews; and the Swine are the infidels of the communion of Jesus, the Christians”? Little wonder the imam of Mecca’s Grand Mosque uses such monikers—even as he gushes about the Saudi-sponsored Vienna-based initiative for “dialogue.”

Maybe they wish to talk about the 28-year-old Saudi woman, Maryan, who, after converting to Christianity, had to flee the nation, and is reportedly currently hiding in Sweden, even as authorities try to extradite her back to Saudi Arabia to face the crime of apostasy, which calls for the death penalty?  Earlier Maryam had said that, though she “was raised to hate Judaism and Christianity she has come to love those religions since finding peace in Christianity.”

Do they wish to talk about how 35 Christian Ethiopians were arrested and abused for almost a year, simply for holding a private house prayer?  Upon release, one of the Christians observed that “The Saudi officials do not tolerate any religions other than Islam. They consider non-Muslims unbelievers. They are full of hatred towards non-Muslims.”

Or do they wish to talk about how last December 2012, Saudi “religious police” stormed a house in the province of al-Jouf, detaining more than 41 guests for, in the words of the police statement, “plotting to celebrate Christmas”?

Of course, the Vienna-based King Abdullah International Centre for Interreligious and Intercultural Dialogue does not wish to talk about any of these instances of state-enforced religious intolerance. Instead, the purpose of the center’s existence is to deflect criticism from Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries, and direct it onto the West. This was amply demonstrated during the center’s inaugural symposium, when Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, the head of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, urged Western governments to enact laws countering “Islamophobia,” because it “leads to hate crimes and as such, it generates fear, feelings of stigmatization, marginalization, alienation and rejection.”

In other words, Saudi-sponsored “interfaith dialogue” is about silencing the truth—pressuring the West to show tolerance to Muslims by not criticizing them for persecuting others, which would be portrayed as “Islamophobia.”

It still remains to determine which is more surreal, more unbelievable: that Saudi Arabia, which tops the charts of state-enforced religious intolerance, is sponsoring “religious dialogue,” or that the West, including leaders of those religions whose adherents are daily persecuted by Saudi and Muslim intolerance, are going along with the gag—and all of them with a straight face.

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  • Mary Sue

    The reason for the hypocrisy is clear. They want to indoctrinate people in other countries so the other countries continue to turn a blind eye to what's going on in Saudi itself.

    • Smote

      Yeah, and to spread their filth.

  • Smote

    Typical of the hypocrisy emanating from the kingdom of hate: Saudi paedophil-Arabia. I'll start to listen to their 'peace and love dialogue' twaddle when a Christian church, a Jewish synagogue, a Hindu temple, a Buddhist temple, a Shinto shrine are allowed to open in Mecca. Not necessarily in any order of preference. There are mosques all over the world, so why can't the most monocultural religion of all do the same? Maybe I just answered my own question.

    The insidious spread of the cult of hell continues unabated. I had to laugh when I read that this new love-in centre is in Austria. I'm sure Adolf Hitler would be proud.


      Ask why "progressives" don't demand that Saudi Arabia become multi-cultural as the rest of the world.

      The left has double standards.

      "Progressives" side with regressive regimes, no matter how despicable, as long as the regressive regime opposes the US and Western civilization.

      The left are hypocrites and fascists of the first order – as they were in 1939 in the SHlTler/Stalin pact.

      • Smote

        You said it. Thank you.

        The Left are Bolsheviks who feel they were born with a sense of entitlement, not unlike the people they want to kill. Their fawning yobboship of Islam is just another manifestation of their lies and hypocrisy. I'm amazed they can even keep a straight face.

        Anything for a freebee.

    • Mary Sue

      the main reason they fear Hindu temples, Jewish Synagogues, and Christian Churches, is they are afraid that the people of those faiths use those places of worship in the exact same manner as they use their Mosques.

      • Smote

        No, not quite. It is not fear that rules Islam, it is hatred. They consider their mosques to be barracks and their minarets to be rifles. They do not use places of worship the same way peoples of other faiths do. People must understand the militaristic facet of Islam. It is NOT a religion of peace. They breed and indoctrinate their people for war.

        • JacksonPearson

          Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan concisely portrays the inherently warlike agenda of mosques by quoting a renowned Islamic poet: “The minarets are our bayonets, the domes our helmets, the mosques our barracks, and the faithful our army.”

  • AdinaK

    The Islamist-in-Chief is a like-minded fellow traveler with the Wahabbi kingdom, as such, its dangers rise exponentially. They are his roots, at least the "green" side –

    The fact of the matter is, the west became fully acquainted with Saudi exported terror, soon after the biggest terror massacre in U.S. history, at least since Pearl Harbor.

    Mecca and Medina must be placed front and center, if the west is ever going to stop the onslaught.

    Adina kutnicki, Israel

  • asim

    raymond is full of it…

    he is no scholar…and just an mercenary islam basher. Not ever worth reading.


      asim, whatever you think raymon is full of, your Koran is full of it…

      You think that the oxymoron called the Religion of Peace, which kills people all over the world, is worthy of respect?

    • Smote

      Raymond Ibrahim is a better man than you probably ever will be.

    • Pontotoc Bill

      Asim, maybe you should get a REAL education instead of blindly following islam.

      You attack him without any proof. None provided, just name calling. That is all Islam has, name calling and violence.

      His books are logical and well written, unlike that piece of illogical, adulterated, hate mongering, lying book you call the quran. I call it the book of satan.

    • Crossbow87

      Naw, I'll read him anyway. Thanks for opening your piehole though, keep it real.

    • Mary Sue

      why don't you give yourself some much-needed credibility and bash the Misunderstanders of Islam that call themselves Muslim, instead?

    • Drakken

      We ain't played cowboys and muslims, yet!

    • kafir4life

      allahu snackbar, asim. Head there for the buy one get one free on aisha brand pork rinds, the favorite snack of the "prophet" mohamandcheese.

  • dev

    raymond is talking perfect sense but your mind is way too constipated to comprehend…btw why did you care to read it anyway?

    • Smote

      Who are you relpying to?

      • Mary Sue

        he's replying to that not-so-thinly disguised radical asim above.

  • Abdul Razaq

    List of wived of prophet Mohammad whom Egyptian Imam follow.__1. Khadija/Khadijah bint Khuwailid/Khywaylid – died first _2. Sauda/Sawda bint Zam’a _3. 'Aisha/Aesha/’A’ishah – 6 yrs old, 3rd wife _ 4 'Aisha's Slaves _ 'Aisha and the Battle of the Camel _5. Omm/’Umm Salama/Salamah _6. Hafsa/Hafsah _7. Zaynab/Zainab of Jahsh _8. Juwairiya/Jowayriya bint Harith_•_9. Safiya/Safiyya bint Huyai/Huyayy bint Akhtab _10. Maymuna/Maimuna of Hareth _11. Fatima/Fatema/Fatimah _12. Hend/Hind _13. Asma of Saba (Sana bint Asma') _14. Zaynab of Khozayma _15. Habla? _16. Divorced Asma of Noman / bint al-Nu’man _•_ slaves / concubines_17. Mary the Copt/Christian _18. Rayhana/Raihana/Rayhanah bint Zayd/Zaid _•_- 19. Divorced Omm Sharik _20. Maymuna/Maimuna (slave girl?) _21. Zaynab/Zainab the third? _22. Khawla / Khawlah _23. Divorced Mulaykah bint Dawud _24. Divorced al-Shanba’ bint ‘Amr _25. Divorced al-‘Aliyyah _26. Divorced ‘Amrah bint Yazid _27. Divorced an Unnamed Woman _28. Qutaylah bint Qays (died right away) _29. Sana bint Sufyan _30. Sharaf bint Khalifah _31. Women of Mohammed’s Right Hand _Mohammed Turned Some Women Down _Some Women Turned Mohammed Down __

    • Drakken

      Thank God not allah that a jewess poisoned that abomination to mankind.

    • kafir4life

      Sorry to tell you this abdul, but mohamat was a pig fornicator. His favorite was his father.

  • Abdul Razaq

    “The Saudi officials do not tolerate any religions other than Islam. They consider non-Muslims unbelievers. why they do not tolerate other religions?? read quran. Surah Ali Imran V 85. P145
    "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him; and in the hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost."
    Surah Ali Imran v. 19. p 126
    The religion before God is Islam, nor did the people of the book Dissent there from except.
    This is real face of islam that they donot considre others even human being.

    • Smote

      So, what you're saying is that this article about Saudi hypocrisy is correct. Yes?

      Yeah, even Mein Kampf 'lays it all out'. Why should the 'Cult of Luna' be any different? Hitler had many predecessors.

    • JacksonPearson

      For Sunni Muslims, the patriarch of Islamic terrorism is Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab. He who was born in 1703 in the Arabian Peninsula and was a student of Ibn Taymiyah. Wahhabist Islam is known today as the most pure and authentic, and thus fundamental form of the religion. Muhammad Wahhab based his Islam on the Salaf, the earliest Muslim ancestors who were the Companions of Muhammad.

      The Salaf brought them the Quran, the Sira, Tarikh, and Hadith – Islam's oldest and most authoritative sources. Since Muhammad said that Islam could not change, Wahhab taught that anything which was not officially mandated by Muhammad and Allah had no place in the religion. It is why Wahhabists call themselves "Salafists," and why they are the best, most authentic, and hard core Muslims.

      In direct contradiction to all who apply the "radical" label to the Islam of today's terrorists, the only way for Wahhab or Salaf Muslims to be practicing a corrupted version of Islam, is for Muhammad and his Companions to have gotten Islam wrong. And if that were true, the religion has no basis of any kind. The moment you come to grips with this simple, yet profound, truth, the connection between Islam and terror becomes clear. In a nutshell, Muhammad was a terrorist, and that's exactly what's being practiced today!

  • M. Archer

    To sugget that there is a difference between Muslims as to the way they practice their faith is a valid point, and to treat the "tolerant" ones with respect and "mercy" is a way to make inroads into slavery for all of us. These are the same people who don't believe that there are people who are evil. The most strident of the Muslims will kill the "moderates" and then come for all adherants of a democratic society. It is "written" in the Koran- death to all believers in "the Book" and to all who won't convert to Islam. Let me see now, how many of those who are left will be allowed to go about their business unintimidated. Hmmm. Unfortunately when their lips move they are misrepresenting, and that is OK as long as its for the greater expansion of the "faith". It is not a sin to lie especialy to infidells. If we buy it then shame on us.

  • Crossbow87

    I'm wondering if it is the most effective critcism of Muslims to say they are being hypocritical. It seems they are not being hypocritical only because they don't actually believe or practice tolerance. In other words, it is probably more accurate to describe the King Abdullah International Centre for Interreligious and Intercultural Dialogue as one of the latest weapons used by Muslims to further their military gains in the West.

    • Mary Sue

      well the essence of Hypocrisy is proclaiming one thing while doing the opposite.

      • jonmc

        True, but what with Taqqiya, Kitman and Tawriya as ways and means to "religiously" lie to non-Muslims then Muslims will not see this as hypocrisy since they are following religiously mandated doctrines that can't be "wrong".
        (Just to give you a flavour of the irony here: the Koran says Muslims may protect themselves from non-Muslims by "making nice" to them in a deceptive way ("we smile at some people whilst hating them in our hearts" – ibn Kathir commentary) in that will protect the Muslim from harm – and that's okay, BUT rails against non-Muslims who do the same thing with Muslims – THAT'S hypocrisy.)

  • elishah

    Behold, I saw two men riding on camel's,and I looked and saw two men riding on asses;and I looked and saw two men riding on horses.Then I heard a angel flying in the heavens,saying Babylon is falling; Babylon is falling

  • Ghostwriter

    If there is ANY place on earth less conducive to freedom of religion,it's Saudi Arabia.

  • Steve H

    Another great article by Raymond. Here's the money phrase in case you missed it:

    "And this is the key point: Saudi Arabia’s brand of religious intolerance is not a product of the “Arab street,” terrorists, or mob violence. It is institutionalized; it is enforced by the state itself. In other words, religious intolerance is being enforced by the very people who claim to want to have dialogue with Christians and Jews under the umbrella of “tolerance” and “mutual respect.” — RI

    Bingo! It's one thing for say the leaders of Turkey to sponsor interfaith dialogue, since while there is discrimination, it is not yet institutionalized, and something else entirely — pure hypocrisy — for the leaders of Saudi Arabia to sponsor dialogue, since they themselves are responsible for some of the worst religious discrimination in the world!

  • johnnywoods

    Allah is not a god but he is a demon. Mohammad is a false prophet so why should we have a dialogue with mooslims about anything?

    • elishah

      The mean man boweth down and the mighty man humbleth himself;therefore the world is laid waste

  • Jsmith

    Hay, it all makes sense now. The Koran tells them it's ok to lie to unbelievers. The Saudies paid for Barry's education at Harvard, before that he was educated in Indoniesia. This is were Berry gets of lying to us and learned all about propaganda.

  • Fred Glass

    To bring the surreal hypocrisy of Saudi Arabia into an intelligible perspective consider the two fold nature of man: On one hand ambitious, vindictive, & rapacious (as Alexander Hamilton commented) & on the other warm, generous & loving.

  • Edina Chang

    The Saudi king is practising TAQIYYA, the perfect example of Islamic deception as mentioned in the Koran. And the stupid dhimmi Western leaders, non Muslim religious heads follow like lamb to slaughter. Sad, very sad.

  • Tim

    we need to tell muslims in America that we will follow the Saudi model when it comes to mosques in the US….for every Church built in Saudi we will allow a mosque in the US

  • ahmad ahmad

    Saudi Arabia is indeed completely hypocritical and does not represent true Islamic law, the prophet (pbuh) would be ashamed at the Muslim world today.