<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The Calm Before the Jihadi Storm</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2014 03:08:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
		<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
		<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5237838</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5237838</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I voted for Bush I twice, and George W. Bush one time. In 2004 I voted for Michael Badnarick, the Libertarian.&quot;



First it&#039;s straight party line for 30 years, now it&#039;s 75% over 4 elections. Who knows what you&#039;ve really done? We can&#039;t trust you because you&#039;re not even consistent.


Did you vote for Dole? I&#039;m not even expecting an answer. Just kind of pointing out to you that you make statements before you even start to think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I voted for Bush I twice, and George W. Bush one time. In 2004 I voted for Michael Badnarick, the Libertarian.&#8221;</p>
<p>First it&#8217;s straight party line for 30 years, now it&#8217;s 75% over 4 elections. Who knows what you&#8217;ve really done? We can&#8217;t trust you because you&#8217;re not even consistent.</p>
<p>Did you vote for Dole? I&#8217;m not even expecting an answer. Just kind of pointing out to you that you make statements before you even start to think.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236802</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236802</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I voted for Bush I twice, and George W. Bush one time.  In 2004 I voted for Michael Badnarick, the Libertarian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted for Bush I twice, and George W. Bush one time.  In 2004 I voted for Michael Badnarick, the Libertarian.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236548</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 04:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236548</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Truly, you are the ultimate reactionary. You have defined a great enemy - &quot;the Left,&quot; i.e., anyone to the left of you on any issue.&quot;

It&#039;s a batch of enemies defined as being &quot;on the left&quot; after they clearly identified themselves as enemies and not the other way around.

&quot;You LITERALLY are so blinded by your petty resentments at &quot;the Left&quot; that you are still blaming them for losing Vietnam!&quot;

The evidence that I&#039;m blind is based on your lack of sight. It&#039;s hysterical and tragic all at once.

&quot;You still cling to the fantasy of trickle down economics.&quot;

Economic theory is so far over your head. You&#039;re one of the people who think it&#039;s impossible to raise tax revenue by lowering tax rates.

&quot;You&#039;re against any government action designed to help the free market deliver quality healthcare in a way that won&#039;t bankrupt people &quot;

I&#039;m against lies and tyranny. You repeat their lies. That&#039;s where the local conflict comes in. I don&#039;t care about what fantasies you have. I just feel obligated to refute lies that cause so much harm.

&quot;Your hyper-partisanship is awesome. I thought people like you died along with the John Birchers.&quot;



Like my blind loyalty to the Republican Party? You&#039;re reading comprehension probably won&#039;t ever get any better it seems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Truly, you are the ultimate reactionary. You have defined a great enemy &#8211; &#8220;the Left,&#8221; i.e., anyone to the left of you on any issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a batch of enemies defined as being &#8220;on the left&#8221; after they clearly identified themselves as enemies and not the other way around.</p>
<p>&#8220;You LITERALLY are so blinded by your petty resentments at &#8220;the Left&#8221; that you are still blaming them for losing Vietnam!&#8221;</p>
<p>The evidence that I&#8217;m blind is based on your lack of sight. It&#8217;s hysterical and tragic all at once.</p>
<p>&#8220;You still cling to the fantasy of trickle down economics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Economic theory is so far over your head. You&#8217;re one of the people who think it&#8217;s impossible to raise tax revenue by lowering tax rates.</p>
<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re against any government action designed to help the free market deliver quality healthcare in a way that won&#8217;t bankrupt people &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m against lies and tyranny. You repeat their lies. That&#8217;s where the local conflict comes in. I don&#8217;t care about what fantasies you have. I just feel obligated to refute lies that cause so much harm.</p>
<p>&#8220;Your hyper-partisanship is awesome. I thought people like you died along with the John Birchers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like my blind loyalty to the Republican Party? You&#8217;re reading comprehension probably won&#8217;t ever get any better it seems.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: alericKong</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236547</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alericKong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 04:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236547</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[How dare we spend $10 billion a month fighting terrorists stock piling nerve gas.

Perfectly able-body men need their disability checks to buy oxy&#039;s, and their food stamps to buy their bags of cheetos for breakfast.

And don&#039;t even think of reforming the dollars spent on the poor 300 lb single mothers spawning children from a dozen fathers. They&#039;re operating at full prostitution capacity already, and more cuts means 4 weeks of turning tricks a month instead of the much better 3 week whore work month.

Don&#039;t even mention the $85 billion Bernanke dollar printing press. How would the Obama library look with only one term? We need to prop total garbage and loose reserve currency status so we can have the coolest president ever!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How dare we spend $10 billion a month fighting terrorists stock piling nerve gas.</p>
<p>Perfectly able-body men need their disability checks to buy oxy&#8217;s, and their food stamps to buy their bags of cheetos for breakfast.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t even think of reforming the dollars spent on the poor 300 lb single mothers spawning children from a dozen fathers. They&#8217;re operating at full prostitution capacity already, and more cuts means 4 weeks of turning tricks a month instead of the much better 3 week whore work month.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even mention the $85 billion Bernanke dollar printing press. How would the Obama library look with only one term? We need to prop total garbage and loose reserve currency status so we can have the coolest president ever!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236545</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 04:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236545</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Drakken, being of the warrior type, you&#039;d be out front whooping a$$ if we were totally dominated by an outside culture, too.&quot;



That&#039;s a statement straight out of the moral equivalence book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Drakken, being of the warrior type, you&#8217;d be out front whooping a$$ if we were totally dominated by an outside culture, too.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a statement straight out of the moral equivalence book.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: alericKong</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236544</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alericKong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 03:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236544</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Before 2003 Saddam had strategic intent to procure chemical weapons, maintained dual use infrastructure, bribed the UN to remove sanctions, made offerrs to Osama bin Laden for safe haven and ran a government whose military worked with al-Qaeda to murder Americans.

al-Qaeda recruits started a religious civil war in 2005. In response, the US eliminated all al-Qaeda presence in Iraq and brokered cooperative agreements with the Sunni population.

In 2004, the Democratic party decided to turn to treachery and destroy their own country for their own selfish gain. We have lived under a liberal foreign policy ever since where we have witnessed a nuclear North Korea, al-Qaeda in power in Algiera, Tunisia, Libya, and Egypt with the Ayatollah taking Lebanon.

Barak Obama&#039;s self fullfilling destiny failed to allow a US presence in the heart Middle East. Now those same terrorists stockpile sarin and scheme to kill Americans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before 2003 Saddam had strategic intent to procure chemical weapons, maintained dual use infrastructure, bribed the UN to remove sanctions, made offerrs to Osama bin Laden for safe haven and ran a government whose military worked with al-Qaeda to murder Americans.</p>
<p>al-Qaeda recruits started a religious civil war in 2005. In response, the US eliminated all al-Qaeda presence in Iraq and brokered cooperative agreements with the Sunni population.</p>
<p>In 2004, the Democratic party decided to turn to treachery and destroy their own country for their own selfish gain. We have lived under a liberal foreign policy ever since where we have witnessed a nuclear North Korea, al-Qaeda in power in Algiera, Tunisia, Libya, and Egypt with the Ayatollah taking Lebanon.</p>
<p>Barak Obama&#8217;s self fullfilling destiny failed to allow a US presence in the heart Middle East. Now those same terrorists stockpile sarin and scheme to kill Americans.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236543</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 03:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236543</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Brace yourself, but I bet if we compared voting records, we&#039;d be very, very close to each other.&quot;

How would you know? You only claimed you voted purely RP until 0&#039;Bama, and then went insane. I doubt it.

So did you vote for Bush twice? How about his father?

Answer the question, because you already implied that you did. I want to hear the details. I already called you a liar and your defense is even more pathetic than I had expected.

&quot;Hey the &quot;Left&quot; that you describe does exist, in powerful places like academia and Hollywood, and it must be fought. But you talk like a Red hunter circa 1953.&quot;



Your statement makes no sense. It&#039;s worse today than it was in 1953, but it&#039;s worse today BECAUSE they didn&#039;t go far enough then.


I sure would have been a red hunter then. I accept the compliment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Brace yourself, but I bet if we compared voting records, we&#8217;d be very, very close to each other.&#8221;</p>
<p>How would you know? You only claimed you voted purely RP until 0&#8242;Bama, and then went insane. I doubt it.</p>
<p>So did you vote for Bush twice? How about his father?</p>
<p>Answer the question, because you already implied that you did. I want to hear the details. I already called you a liar and your defense is even more pathetic than I had expected.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey the &#8220;Left&#8221; that you describe does exist, in powerful places like academia and Hollywood, and it must be fought. But you talk like a Red hunter circa 1953.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your statement makes no sense. It&#8217;s worse today than it was in 1953, but it&#8217;s worse today BECAUSE they didn&#8217;t go far enough then.</p>
<p>I sure would have been a red hunter then. I accept the compliment.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: alericKong</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236538</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alericKong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jun 2013 03:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236538</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I agree with in regards to the human garbage currently known as Islam.

I disagree with your approach as not much thought has gone into it, and there are more subtle ways to defeat these cavemen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with in regards to the human garbage currently known as Islam.</p>
<p>I disagree with your approach as not much thought has gone into it, and there are more subtle ways to defeat these cavemen.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Cynthia Curran</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236469</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cynthia Curran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236469</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Actually, the hard right opposed the war more than the moderate right. The paleo conservatives and the libertrarians were more opposed than the neo-cons. The neo-cons tend to be less economically to the right than libertarians, for example they support a welfare state while the libertarians don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the hard right opposed the war more than the moderate right. The paleo conservatives and the libertrarians were more opposed than the neo-cons. The neo-cons tend to be less economically to the right than libertarians, for example they support a welfare state while the libertarians don&#8217;t.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236126</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[And what by the way makes Lebanon &quot;Muslim land?&quot;


Colonial expansion perhaps?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what by the way makes Lebanon &#8220;Muslim land?&#8221;</p>
<p>Colonial expansion perhaps?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236124</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Their corrupt dictatorial GOVERNMENTS, which have been serving Western interests at the expense of their citizens&#039; interests for many decades, want our bases, to protect THEMSELVES.&quot;





You&#039;re oversimplifying with the typical leftist narratives. Some of those guys were bad, but most of them created problems by simply opposing sharia. We should have given them more support with higher standards, but we were kept busy for a few a few decades with the cold war. That&#039;s not a mea culpa, that&#039;s simply saying I wish the world was an idyllic place.


All that aside, referring to the USA as a colonial power is absolutely false, and fundamentally evil to say. Nobody can justify it without lying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Their corrupt dictatorial GOVERNMENTS, which have been serving Western interests at the expense of their citizens&#8217; interests for many decades, want our bases, to protect THEMSELVES.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re oversimplifying with the typical leftist narratives. Some of those guys were bad, but most of them created problems by simply opposing sharia. We should have given them more support with higher standards, but we were kept busy for a few a few decades with the cold war. That&#8217;s not a mea culpa, that&#8217;s simply saying I wish the world was an idyllic place.</p>
<p>All that aside, referring to the USA as a colonial power is absolutely false, and fundamentally evil to say. Nobody can justify it without lying.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236123</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[At this point we need to change our tactics. But we don&#039;t want to throw away lessons from history. We want to be successful. That&#039;s why we hate 0&#039;Bama.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point we need to change our tactics. But we don&#8217;t want to throw away lessons from history. We want to be successful. That&#8217;s why we hate 0&#8242;Bama.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236122</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236122</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t have to go that far, i.e., totally cut off any contact with them, but I think in essence the West needs to announce: &quot;Hey guys, you know how the Great Powers finally gave up control of most of their colonies after WWII? We&#039;re ready to give you real indepence in your region, too.&quot;



You&#039;re clearly not well read on the relevant history. They don&#039;t want more independence. They want relief from bogus grievances. How many nations and NGOs turn away our money and aid? They want more dependence  under their terms. It&#039;s like an 8-year-old that thinks he has a right to own a car and have his parents pay for it, because of all those times he was abused, made to go to bed and eat and so forth. They still want the privileges of being a child, but they want to be directing it.


It&#039;s human nature until someone teaches them that it&#039;s wrong. In the USA, we have adults that also think this way. It&#039;s not genetic, it&#039;s cultural. 


The answers must deal with culture. Realistically, not in fantasy land.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t have to go that far, i.e., totally cut off any contact with them, but I think in essence the West needs to announce: &#8220;Hey guys, you know how the Great Powers finally gave up control of most of their colonies after WWII? We&#8217;re ready to give you real indepence in your region, too.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re clearly not well read on the relevant history. They don&#8217;t want more independence. They want relief from bogus grievances. How many nations and NGOs turn away our money and aid? They want more dependence  under their terms. It&#8217;s like an 8-year-old that thinks he has a right to own a car and have his parents pay for it, because of all those times he was abused, made to go to bed and eat and so forth. They still want the privileges of being a child, but they want to be directing it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s human nature until someone teaches them that it&#8217;s wrong. In the USA, we have adults that also think this way. It&#8217;s not genetic, it&#8217;s cultural. </p>
<p>The answers must deal with culture. Realistically, not in fantasy land.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236121</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236121</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Across the board, throughout the Middle East, people of all faiths, sects, education, income, language, culture, etc, deeply resent the profound dominance we have on their governments and economies and our miltary bases - even if they enjoy stability because of it.&quot;





Because of leftist publications. The solution is to stop lying. Everywhere I go, with no exceptions, whenever I ask people to justify their criticisms of the USA or the West, they are malinformed about the facts behind their stated reasons for whatever degree of negativity they express. Even people that generally like us. Even people in for example, England or France.


With so many leftist liars actually teaching at our universities and at all levels of our education systems, obviously many foreigners who don&#039;t have easy access to the facts are going to believe these lying traitors and the mindless dupes in the leftist echo chambers. 


Thank you again for leading the conversation to the root of virtually every major problem in our government and culture today; leftist ideology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Across the board, throughout the Middle East, people of all faiths, sects, education, income, language, culture, etc, deeply resent the profound dominance we have on their governments and economies and our miltary bases &#8211; even if they enjoy stability because of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because of leftist publications. The solution is to stop lying. Everywhere I go, with no exceptions, whenever I ask people to justify their criticisms of the USA or the West, they are malinformed about the facts behind their stated reasons for whatever degree of negativity they express. Even people that generally like us. Even people in for example, England or France.</p>
<p>With so many leftist liars actually teaching at our universities and at all levels of our education systems, obviously many foreigners who don&#8217;t have easy access to the facts are going to believe these lying traitors and the mindless dupes in the leftist echo chambers. </p>
<p>Thank you again for leading the conversation to the root of virtually every major problem in our government and culture today; leftist ideology.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236076</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236076</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Does this accurately state your position more or less?&quot;



No it does not. Most people ignore the calling of their stated religion. That&#039;s like saying all self-identified Democrats want to be at the cutting edge of accomplishing all of the goals of the party.


There&#039;s a huge difference between discussing ideology and then claiming that all people who are claimed to be connected are going to be strictly following its commands.


However, we have to be aware that this is the calling, and &quot;moderates&quot; of today will in some cases be responding to that calling in the future as &quot;radicals.&quot; That doesn&#039;t make them culpable today, but it does put them at risk. We need to consider that when we choose our next words and advocate certain policies. Killing people is not the only way to destroy an ideology. It&#039;s the last resort and doesn&#039;t work well in the long run.


You&#039;re confusing the facts and analysis with your presumptions about the implications. Knowing people are at risk means you can respond with debate, and hope to win them over with debate rather than force after they break our laws.


You&#039;re doing the same thing as those that want to talk the &quot;religion of peace&quot; to flatter them. Pretend they aren&#039;t exhorted to do these things. Don&#039;t offend them with salient facts.


Why not take the same approach with everything known to be dangerous? Pretend it&#039;s not until it&#039;s proven to be dangerous in each case.


If only you leftists took the same approach with your theories about &quot;carbon&quot; and whatnot. As if carbon is more dangerous than Islamic ideology.


And many or even most leftists actually believe that. But that&#039;s just an example to show how flexible people are with evidence and analysis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does this accurately state your position more or less?&#8221;</p>
<p>No it does not. Most people ignore the calling of their stated religion. That&#8217;s like saying all self-identified Democrats want to be at the cutting edge of accomplishing all of the goals of the party.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a huge difference between discussing ideology and then claiming that all people who are claimed to be connected are going to be strictly following its commands.</p>
<p>However, we have to be aware that this is the calling, and &#8220;moderates&#8221; of today will in some cases be responding to that calling in the future as &#8220;radicals.&#8221; That doesn&#8217;t make them culpable today, but it does put them at risk. We need to consider that when we choose our next words and advocate certain policies. Killing people is not the only way to destroy an ideology. It&#8217;s the last resort and doesn&#8217;t work well in the long run.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re confusing the facts and analysis with your presumptions about the implications. Knowing people are at risk means you can respond with debate, and hope to win them over with debate rather than force after they break our laws.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re doing the same thing as those that want to talk the &#8220;religion of peace&#8221; to flatter them. Pretend they aren&#8217;t exhorted to do these things. Don&#8217;t offend them with salient facts.</p>
<p>Why not take the same approach with everything known to be dangerous? Pretend it&#8217;s not until it&#8217;s proven to be dangerous in each case.</p>
<p>If only you leftists took the same approach with your theories about &#8220;carbon&#8221; and whatnot. As if carbon is more dangerous than Islamic ideology.</p>
<p>And many or even most leftists actually believe that. But that&#8217;s just an example to show how flexible people are with evidence and analysis.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236053</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236053</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[If I am wrong, correct me.  I read you as saying that ALL Muslims the world over are either actual terrorists, or would-be terrorists, or jihadist colonizers of the West by way of immigration, or native-born would-be establishers of Sharia law; ultimately, any way you slice it, every single practing Muslim is a threat to our existence.  
Does this accurately state your position more or less?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I am wrong, correct me.  I read you as saying that ALL Muslims the world over are either actual terrorists, or would-be terrorists, or jihadist colonizers of the West by way of immigration, or native-born would-be establishers of Sharia law; ultimately, any way you slice it, every single practing Muslim is a threat to our existence.<br />
Does this accurately state your position more or less?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236048</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236048</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;They&#039;re just the Boogie Man, driven mindlessly to kill by their religion&quot;



They&#039;re reasoning is quite sophisticated some times (but still based on lies accepted by them as facts), but others are programmed from birth. Ever hear of the concept of a cult?


We&#039;re discussing facts and objective analysis. You use caricatures and then want to present your own bogus rhetoric as our supposed best arguments. That&#039;s why you have no credibility in the discussions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They&#8217;re just the Boogie Man, driven mindlessly to kill by their religion&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re reasoning is quite sophisticated some times (but still based on lies accepted by them as facts), but others are programmed from birth. Ever hear of the concept of a cult?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re discussing facts and objective analysis. You use caricatures and then want to present your own bogus rhetoric as our supposed best arguments. That&#8217;s why you have no credibility in the discussions.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: objectivefactsmatter</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236045</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[objectivefactsmatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236045</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Now, back to the original point(s). If you had said, that there are some Muslims hell-bent on the annihilation of the West, with jihad top of their agenda, then no reasonable person would disagree.&quot;

Great. The next step is analyzing ideology to see if there is a reason for that. Some of us have done that and we&#039;re encouraging others to investigate further. It&#039;s kind of serious at this point, especially with a stealth Sunni POTUS going around telling the UN that the future must not belong to people like us, who explain the ideology of Islam from a Western non-PC perspective.

&quot;What you said was different, however. In effect, you are saying that all Muslims have a prime goal of Islamification of the West...&quot;

I didn&#039;t say that. I implied that their ideology commands them to. What fraction are actually planning to do that was not discussed.

&quot;The vast majority I know just want a simple life.&quot;



Sure. Everyone says that. And many truly do. But jihadis don&#039;t really project their intentions until they feel it&#039;s safe to do so. Some times that isn&#039;t until they&#039;re screaming &quot;Allah akbar&quot; shortly before the big event.


But in fact most Muslims that I know are not jihadis and not even supremacists. However, discussing the ideology is helpful for them to understand a lot of the dysfunctional ideas that they have in many cases. Most of the time it has to be there choice to examine that. But the point is that it is ALWAYS useful and productive to tell the comprehensive truth about Islam and it&#039;s fundamental teachings. It&#039;s never a waste of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now, back to the original point(s). If you had said, that there are some Muslims hell-bent on the annihilation of the West, with jihad top of their agenda, then no reasonable person would disagree.&#8221;</p>
<p>Great. The next step is analyzing ideology to see if there is a reason for that. Some of us have done that and we&#8217;re encouraging others to investigate further. It&#8217;s kind of serious at this point, especially with a stealth Sunni POTUS going around telling the UN that the future must not belong to people like us, who explain the ideology of Islam from a Western non-PC perspective.</p>
<p>&#8220;What you said was different, however. In effect, you are saying that all Muslims have a prime goal of Islamification of the West&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say that. I implied that their ideology commands them to. What fraction are actually planning to do that was not discussed.</p>
<p>&#8220;The vast majority I know just want a simple life.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure. Everyone says that. And many truly do. But jihadis don&#8217;t really project their intentions until they feel it&#8217;s safe to do so. Some times that isn&#8217;t until they&#8217;re screaming &#8220;Allah akbar&#8221; shortly before the big event.</p>
<p>But in fact most Muslims that I know are not jihadis and not even supremacists. However, discussing the ideology is helpful for them to understand a lot of the dysfunctional ideas that they have in many cases. Most of the time it has to be there choice to examine that. But the point is that it is ALWAYS useful and productive to tell the comprehensive truth about Islam and it&#8217;s fundamental teachings. It&#8217;s never a waste of time.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236030</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236030</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Oh that&#039;s right, you&#039;re the one who&#039;s had his boot on the neck of the Muslim savage, so we should all defer to your battle hardened wisdom.  Sheesh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh that&#8217;s right, you&#8217;re the one who&#8217;s had his boot on the neck of the Muslim savage, so we should all defer to your battle hardened wisdom.  Sheesh.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: EarlyBird</title>
		<link>http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/raymond-ibrahim/the-calm-before-the-jihadi-storm/comment-page-1/#comment-5236029</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EarlyBird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://frontpagemag.com/?p=193611#comment-5236029</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Dude, you may be surprised, but I come from a very Goldwater-Reagan conservative, Catholic family (of Midwest origin with 3 - USMC vets), and I was always known as the red-blooded conservative by my peers, and constantly fighting lefties and soft-headed liberal idiocy.  
I LOVED Reagan, and ditched sophomore year of high school in &#039;80 to watch him campaign.  I was constantly getting into trouble with my peers in college for calling BS on their liberal utopian fantasies and intellectual straight jackets, and writing the only conservative editorials in the campus newspaper.  I&#039;ve been called &quot;facist&quot; and &quot;racist&quot; by these idiots so many times I&#039;ve lost count.  
One of the most important books I&#039;ve ever read is &quot;The Dream and the Nightmare&quot; (Magnet) which is a blistering broadside to liberalism.  I believe many of the bad ideas that came out of the &#039;60s counter-culture have been a disaster for this country.  
I only know of this site because I was such a fan of Horowitz and his college campaign (when I became a UC staffer) to expose the hypocrisy of self-styled &quot;liberals&quot; and their inability to tolerate dissent, a campaign I gave real money to when I was barely making any.  I am still on his organization&#039;s mailing list.  I&#039;ve got his &quot;Radical Son&quot; and &quot;Uncivil Wars&quot; books on my shelves, and I&#039;ve been a life-long registered Republican.  
I&#039;m a veteran, a gun nut, an unabashed flag-waving patriot, have owned my own (very) small business and believe the government makes it far too hard to create jobs and wealth.  I adore WF Buckley, and am deeply skeptical of government and any utopian fantasies.  I regularly read American Conservative and other conservative sites.  
On other boards I&#039;ve frequented (the old Slate Fray) I was the crazed right winger.  I would rather eat glass than register Democrat. 
What changed personally for me?  George W. Bush.  He is a very good man who had the worst possible pressures any man could bear, trying to do his best as he saw it for this country.  But our enemies could not have dreamed up a better attack on our country than his policies.  
His disaster was that he clung to rigid ideology (reflexively cut taxes even during war time) and refused to look at facts objectively, be it the economy or terrorism (neocons got to him), etc.  
And &quot;conservatives&quot; have yet to learn W&#039;s disastrous lesson of applying orthodoxy to every situation, and turning every issue into a battle in the endless Culture Wars.  
I have have not split with conservatives, they have split with me.  I have split with partisanship, and by doing so I&#039;ve seen how ugly, frightened, xenophobic, stupid and tribal &quot;conservatism&quot; has become.  It has become literally irrelevant to dealing with any issue at this time.  I can&#039;t wait until we have a rebirth of real conservatism.  We desperately need it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you may be surprised, but I come from a very Goldwater-Reagan conservative, Catholic family (of Midwest origin with 3 &#8211; USMC vets), and I was always known as the red-blooded conservative by my peers, and constantly fighting lefties and soft-headed liberal idiocy.<br />
I LOVED Reagan, and ditched sophomore year of high school in &#8217;80 to watch him campaign.  I was constantly getting into trouble with my peers in college for calling BS on their liberal utopian fantasies and intellectual straight jackets, and writing the only conservative editorials in the campus newspaper.  I&#8217;ve been called &#8220;facist&#8221; and &#8220;racist&#8221; by these idiots so many times I&#8217;ve lost count.<br />
One of the most important books I&#8217;ve ever read is &#8220;The Dream and the Nightmare&#8221; (Magnet) which is a blistering broadside to liberalism.  I believe many of the bad ideas that came out of the &#8217;60s counter-culture have been a disaster for this country.<br />
I only know of this site because I was such a fan of Horowitz and his college campaign (when I became a UC staffer) to expose the hypocrisy of self-styled &#8220;liberals&#8221; and their inability to tolerate dissent, a campaign I gave real money to when I was barely making any.  I am still on his organization&#8217;s mailing list.  I&#8217;ve got his &#8220;Radical Son&#8221; and &#8220;Uncivil Wars&#8221; books on my shelves, and I&#8217;ve been a life-long registered Republican.<br />
I&#8217;m a veteran, a gun nut, an unabashed flag-waving patriot, have owned my own (very) small business and believe the government makes it far too hard to create jobs and wealth.  I adore WF Buckley, and am deeply skeptical of government and any utopian fantasies.  I regularly read American Conservative and other conservative sites.<br />
On other boards I&#8217;ve frequented (the old Slate Fray) I was the crazed right winger.  I would rather eat glass than register Democrat.<br />
What changed personally for me?  George W. Bush.  He is a very good man who had the worst possible pressures any man could bear, trying to do his best as he saw it for this country.  But our enemies could not have dreamed up a better attack on our country than his policies.<br />
His disaster was that he clung to rigid ideology (reflexively cut taxes even during war time) and refused to look at facts objectively, be it the economy or terrorism (neocons got to him), etc.<br />
And &#8220;conservatives&#8221; have yet to learn W&#8217;s disastrous lesson of applying orthodoxy to every situation, and turning every issue into a battle in the endless Culture Wars.<br />
I have have not split with conservatives, they have split with me.  I have split with partisanship, and by doing so I&#8217;ve seen how ugly, frightened, xenophobic, stupid and tribal &#8220;conservatism&#8221; has become.  It has become literally irrelevant to dealing with any issue at this time.  I can&#8217;t wait until we have a rebirth of real conservatism.  We desperately need it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Object Caching 758/869 objects using disk
Content Delivery Network via cdn.frontpagemag.com

 Served from: www.frontpagemag.com @ 2014-12-29 22:09:51 by W3 Total Cache -->