The Forgotten Genocide: Why It Matters Today


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A still frame from the 1919 documentary film Auction of Souls, which portrayed eye witnessed events from the Armenian Genocide, including crucified Christian girls.

Yesterday, April 24, marks the “Great Crime,” that is, the Armenian genocide that took place under Turkey’s Islamic Ottoman Empire, during and after WWI.  Out of an approximate population of two million, some 1.5 million Armenians died. If early 20th century Turkey had the apparatuses and technology to execute in mass—such as 1940s Germany’s gas chambers—the entire Armenian population may well have been decimated.  Most objective American historians who have studied the question unequivocally agree that it was a deliberate, calculated genocide:

More than one million Armenians perished as the result of execution, starvation, disease, the harsh environment, and physical abuse.  A people who lived in eastern Turkey for nearly 3,000 years [more than double the amount of time the invading Islamic Turks had occupied Anatolia, now known as “Turkey”] lost its homeland and was profoundly decimated in the first large-scale genocide of the twentieth century.  At the beginning of 1915 there were some two million Armenians within Turkey; today there are fewer than 60,000….  Despite the vast amount of evidence that points to the historical reality of the Armenian Genocide, eyewitness accounts, official archives, photographic evidence, the reports of diplomats, and the testimony of survivors, denial of the Armenian Genocide by successive regimes in Turkey has gone on from 1915 to the present.

Indeed, evidence has been overwhelming.  U.S. Senate Resolution 359 from 1920 heard testimony that included evidence of “[m]utilation, violation, torture, and death [which] have left their haunting memories in a hundred beautiful Armenian valleys, and the traveler in that region is seldom free from the evidence of this most colossal crime of all the ages.”  In her memoir, Ravished Armenia, Aurora Mardiganian described being raped and thrown into a harem (which agrees with Islam’s rules of war).  Unlike thousands of other Armenian girls who were discarded after being defiled, she managed to escape. In the city of Malatia, she saw 16 Christian girls crucified: “Each girl had been nailed alive upon her cross, spikes through her feet and hands, only their hair blown by the wind, covered their bodies.”  Such scenes were portrayed in the 1919 documentary film Auction of Souls, some of which is based on Mardiganian’s memoirs.

What do Americans know of the Armenian Genocide?  To be sure, some American high school textbooks acknowledge it.  However, one of the primary causes for it—perhaps the fundamental cause—is completely unacknowledged: religion.  The genocide is always articulated through a singularly secular paradigm, one that deems valid only those factors that are intelligible from a modern, secular, Western point of view, such as identity politics, nationalism, and territorial disputes. As can be imagined, such an approach does little more than project Western perspectives onto vastly different civilizations of different eras, thus anachronizing history.

War, of course, is another factor that clouds the true face of the Armenian genocide.  Because these atrocities occurred during WWI, so the argument goes, they are ultimately a reflection of just that—war, in all its chaos and destruction, and nothing more.  Yet Winston Churchill, who described the massacres as an “administrative holocaust,” correctly observed that “The opportunity [WWI] presented itself for clearing Turkish soil of a Christian race.”  Even Adolf Hitler had pointed out that “Turkey is taking advantage of the war in order to thoroughly liquidate its internal foes, i.e., the indigenous Christians, without being thereby disturbed by foreign intervention.”

It is the same today throughout the Muslim world, wherever there is war: after the U.S. toppled Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, the nation’s Christian minority were first to be targeted for systematic persecution resulting in more than half of Iraq’s indigenous Christian population fleeing their homeland.  Now that war has come to Syria—with the U.S. supporting the jihadis and terrorists—the Christians there are on the run for their lives.

There is no denying that religion—or in this context, the age-old specter of Muslim persecution of Christian minorities—was fundamental to the Armenian Genocide.  Even the most cited factor, ethnic identity conflict, while legitimate, must be understood in light of the fact that, historically, religion—creed—accounted more for a person’s identity than language or heritage.   This is daily demonstrated throughout the Islamic world today, where Muslim governments and Muslim mobs persecute Christian minorities—minorities who share the same ethnicity, language, and culture, who are indistinguishable from the majority, except, of course, for being non-Muslims.

If Christians are thus being singled out today—in our modern, globalized, “humanitarian” age—are we to suppose that they weren’t singled out a century ago by Turks?

Similarly, often forgotten is the fact that non-Armenians under Turkish hegemony, Assyrians and Greeks for example, were also targeted for cleansing.   The only thing that distinguished  Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks from Turks was that they were all Christian.  As one Armenian studies professor asks, “If it [the Armenian Genocide] was a feud between Turks and Armenians, what explains the genocide carried out by Turkey against the Christian Assyrians at the same time?”

Today, as Turkey continues moving back to reclaiming its Islamic heritage, so too has Christian persecution returned.  If Turks taunted their crucified Armenian victims by saying things like “Now let your Christ come and help you,” just last January, an 85-year-old Christian Armenian woman was repeatedly stabbed to death in her apartment, and a crucifix carved onto her naked corpse.   Another elderly Armenian woman was punched in the head and, after collapsing to the floor, repeatedly kicked by a masked man.   According to the report, “the attack marks the fifth in the past two months against elderly Armenian women,” one of whom lost an eye.  Elsewhere, pastors of church congregations with as little as 20 people are targeted for killing and spat upon in the streets.  A 12-year-old Christian boy was beaten by his teacher and harassed by students for wearing around his neck, and three Christians were “satanically tortured” before having their throats slit for publishing Bibles.

Outside of Turkey, what is happening to the Christians of today from one end of the Muslim world to the other is a reflection of what happened to the Armenian Christians of yesterday.   We can learn about the past by looking at the present.  From Indonesia in the east to Morocco in the west, from Central Asia in the north, to sub-Sahara Africa—that is, throughout the entire Islamic world—Muslims are, to varying degrees, persecuting, killing, raping, enslaving, torturing and dislocating Christians.  See my new book, Crucified Again: Exposing Islam’s New War on Christians for a comprehensive account of one of the greatest—yet, like the Armenian Genocide, little known—atrocities of our times.

Here is one relevant example to help appreciate the patterns and parallels: in Muslim-majority northern Nigeria, Muslims, led by the Islamic organization, Boko Haram (“Western Education is Forbidden”) are waging a bloody jihad on the Christian minorities in their midst.  These two groups—black Nigerian Muslims and black Nigerian Christians—are identical in all ways except, of course, for being Muslims and Christians.  And what is Boko Haram’s objective in all this carnage?  To cleanse northern Nigeria of all Christians—a goal rather reminiscent of Ottoman policies of cleansing Turkey of all Christians, whether Armenian, Assyrian, or Greek.

How does one explain this similar pattern of Christian persecution—this desire to be cleansed of Christians—in lands so different from one another as Nigeria and Turkey, lands which share neither race, language, nor culture, which share only Islam?  Meanwhile, the modern Islamic world’s response to the persecution of Christians is identical to Turkey’s response to the Armenian Genocide: Denial.

Finally, to understand how the historic Armenian Genocide is representative of the modern day plight of Christians under Islam, one need only read the following words written in 1918 by President Theodore Roosevelt—but read “Armenian” as “Christian” and “Turkish” as  “Islamic”:

the Armenian [Christian] massacre was the greatest crime of the war, and the failure to act against Turkey [the Islamic world] is to condone it… the failure to deal radically with the Turkish [Islamic] horror means that all talk of guaranteeing the future peace of the world is mischievous nonsense.

Indeed, if we “fail to deal radically” with the “horror” currently being visited upon millions of Christians around the Islamic world—which in some areas has reached genocidal proportions—we “condone it” and had better cease talking “mischievous nonsense” of a utopian world of peace and tolerance.

Put differently, silence is always the ally of those who would commit genocide.  In 1915, Adolf Hitler rationalized his genocidal plans, which he implemented some three decades later, when he rhetorically asked: “Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?”

And who speaks today of the annihilation of Christians under Islam?

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  • Inquiring Minds

    "Decimation" — literally, taking one in 10 out of a group at random, then casually murdering them — is far too meek a word to describe the atrocity perpetrated against the Armenians by the Islamist dogs, Mr. Ibrahim. Benedict XVI was the last leader to warn the world what the cockroaches who worship a the feet of the The Pedophile Prophet (Piss Be Upon Him) were up to, only to get himself slammed as "insensitive." That was seven years ago.

    The long, dark night of barbarism is nigh…

    • Smote

      Decimation means – to reduce by a tenth.

  • Randy T

    Funny how the only thing you think is worthy to mention about an otherwise spectacular article is the author’s use of one word. Seems you’re more interested in showing off some pedantic knowledge than you are in focusing on the “dark night of barbarism” which the author eloquently explained. Oh, and by the way, his usage of the word decimate is perfectly legitimate:
    http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/decimate.asp

    • Rifleman

      Legitimate in this day perhaps, but inaccurate. Annihilate or obliterate would be accurate. Decimation is one of those words that are seldom used accurately, and that minor correction wasn't the only thing IM had to say. What they wrote after tells me they understood the article, and agreed with the author.

    • EthanP

      Actually, I thought 'decimate' incorrect also. Exterminate would have been more appropriate. I would have complained about his editorialized language.

  • Poupic

    Of course the Armenian genocide was about religion. Today Christians being slaughtered, their churches destroyed in the Muslim world also is about religion. Hold your breath! The Boston horror is also about religion. It is always about religion.
    I propose an imagination experiment: Everybody in the West converts to Islam. Would bombing stop? It is easy to test this by looking in the Arab world where different streams of Islam live and die next to each other. They blow up each other’s mosques with the believers inside! It is always about religion, The Religion of Peace vs. others. Conclusion: We will always have to protect ourself from Islamic terrorists in the same way as we wear a sweater when the weather turns cold.

  • Brian Schiff

    People who categorize this as "genocide" need to read 'The Armenian Massacre's in Ottoman Turkey-A Disputed Genocide' by Guenter Lewy.Lewy disputes the number of victims,shows that there was no intent to wipe out the Armenian's(as there was with the Jews during the Holocaust and also cites Armenian's living in large cities like Istanbul without being bothered.For his work,Lewy has receive several apologies from among others-The Southern Poverty Law Center-for being falsely accused of acting as an agent for Turkey(rather than an objective-and Jewish historian).

    • Rifleman

      Lol, the SPLC is a leftist organization, they have no credibility outside the leftist msm and leftist academia.

      • Brian Schiff

        Guenter Lewy was libelled-and what the Turk's did to the Armenian's was not genocide;take remedial reading and read Guenter Lewy's book.

        • Rifleman

          The SPLC libels and slanders people for a living, their condemnation speaks better of their target than their apology, and yes, what the turks did to the Armenian Christians was genocide.

          • Brian Schiff

            You can't read-for a living-and no it was not genocide.

          • defcon 4

            Yeah, the Turkish muslimes were just doing the ~2.5 million Armenian and Assyrian Christians a favor by killing them right Mehmet?

          • Rifleman

            Sure I can, I just prefer to design and make stuff for a living.

          • Mary Sue

            I got news for ya buddy, when a population of a little over two million is reduced by 2 million due to brutality and murder, it's GENOCIDE.

        • Mary Sue

          Lewy is the Norman Finkelstein of the Armenian Genocide

      • defcon 4

        That's not true, I'm sure their islamofascist donor base has nothing but respect for their efforts in demonizing anyone who criticises the "religion of peace."

    • F.K. Juliano

      Does Mr. Lewy not know how to use the plural or is that just you?

    • Mary Sue

      They don't know what they're talking about.

    • Drakken

      You quote the SPLC ? You have lost any an all crediability by quoting anything from that communist organization. The Armenien Genocide happened, period, end of story! If you believe that islam is a peaceful religion and make excuses for them.I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn to sell you. You leftist really are some of the vilest creatures on the planet.

    • VladTepes

      I simply don't believe anything about this NOT happening. Not only are there NUMEROUS contemporary sources as well as eye-witness accounts, it also fits in well with the kind of savagery we are seeing in other areas where Islamic fundamentalists are acting up. I think the sources you are quoting are just another example of contemporary historical revisionism.

    • Brian Schiff

      Why it ain't "genocide" for the flunk remedial reading crowd;Bernard Lewis on Armenian "genocide"bs(youtube )http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4

      • Mary Sue

        semantics.

      • defcon 4

        If it's not a genocide then why is it illegal to even DISCUSS It in the islamofascist state of Turkey? What do you fellow islamofascists have to hide Mehmet?

        • Brian Schiff

          "defcon4"..I'm a Jew who uses his real name.

          • defcon 4

            Aw gee, and I believe you too, along w/Djinns, sorcerers and witches.

  • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

    It has always mattered, and when evil is allowed to be swept under the rug it comes after all of us and flourishes! Therefore, this letter to Erdogan, from Prof Steven Plaut, should set the record straight – http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/03/20/im-an-israeli

    Finally, the Israeli Knesset marked the day as a black stain in history!

    Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/

  • Chanameel

    Our mainstream media has become" mute" in critisizing Islam.

    Our president lead 50,000 muslim men in a "Day of Prayer" on the Mall in September 2009.
    They prayed for the "soul of America."
    This was an occult rite of "surrender" to Islam and determines the future destiny of America.
    Islam is only good at one thing.
    Culling unwanted populations.
    If indeed this comes to pass, then you can be sure the FEMA camps have been designed for something
    slightly diffferent from what we have been told.

  • crackerjack

    Strange that historys greatest genocides, those against the native peoples of the American and Austaralian continents, never get mention. Is it just ignorance, political correctness or just plain hypocrisy? I'd put my bets on the latter.

    • Rostislav

      There is no evidence of the Armenians scalping the Turks in the Apaches fashion or robbing and killing them in the Aborigines fashion. Rostislav, Saint-Petersburg, Russia.

    • Cassandra

      True but America at least recognized the dead, the Turks to this do not. And the killing of Indians was not for religion but for land.

      • maybeushouldtravel

        I'm pretty sure the victims don't give a crap what the motivation is.

        • Rostislav

          Maybe. I never felt myself anybody's victim even in the worst days of the Communist oppression here: a damned rebel – yes, a victim – no. But even if to suppose that the Armenian genocide's victims didn't give a crap about the Turks' motives, we, who are living, ought to give some very deep thought to those motives. Otherwise we risk to invite into our homes the very situation this article says about. In fact, it's already beginning to materialize, from our Beslan and Moscow to your Fort Hood and Boston. Rostislav.

    • Rifleman

      Strange that you can't see the difference. Hypocrisy or merely ignorance? I wouldn't bet either way.

    • defcon 4

      Um, the US has at least acknowledged their crimes and make attempts at restitution. Native Americans have their own self-governing nations and some of those nations are wealthy beyond your dreams thanks to Indian gaming casinos. Any Native American used to be entitled to a free, all expenses paid university education. Muslimes who have not only failed to make any restitution to the families of the victims of their various genocides, but have never acknowledged ANY culpability for them (except perhaps in the case of Bangladesh and the muslime genocide of some 2.5 to 3 million Hindus there).

    • Alvaro

      "Genocide
      noun
      the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group."

      There was not a deliberate and systematic attempt to exterminate the native population. The vast majority succumbed to European diseases like smallpox. I have not even heard leftists claiming that they were deliberately introduced.

      Secondly, Europeans in America were a minority under attack by forces wanting to annihilate them for quite some time. Did the Europeans annihilate the natives when they got the upper hand? They could have killed every single one of the natives with ease and pay them back in kind, but chose not to.

      Let's face it, the natives were murdering each other at appalling rates even before Europeans showed up. It was not like America was some sort of paradise on earth before the first European showed up and ruining the peace. If you believe, that I'm sorry.

      Imagine Europeans today acting in the same manner against Muslims settling in Europe. We could have annihilated them with ease, or at least treated them in the same manner as Christian minorities are treated in Muslim countries. All this is possible, but we choose not to. What does that tell you?

    • JacksonPearson

      In comparison, where exactly did these genocides you claim occure in America? Where are the mass burials located?

      Turkey won't ever be able to brush off Armenia as never happening. Murdering 1.5 million of earth's people can never be forgotten, nor shouldn't be!

    • Arius

      Sorry, but the biggest and most bloody genocide in history is the Muslim armies invasions of India. Over 50 million slaughtered!

    • defcon 4

      History's greatest genocide? What the muslimes did in the Indian sub-continent and arguably are
      STILL doing in the Indian sub-continent. Upwards of 80 million Hindus and Buddhists dead, thousands
      of Hindu and Buddhist temples razed to the ground.

  • sam000

    If you leave the criminals and Genociders alone with no control on them, sure they will genocide;
    at any occurred genocide and ethnic cleansing the SUPER POWER and UN are the first to blame.
    Now, USA and UN share the Christian Ethnic Cleansing of IRAQ.
    After IRAQ INVASION, USA was and is responsible for the security of the minorities,
    USA and UN knew that leaving the country in the hands of the IRANIAN proxies will produce the genocide.
    You know that you should never leave a baby alone with a snake, you leave it, and you blame after the snake.
    Islamism is like SNAKE, the SNAKE should be in a cage, or killed.
    Look at the intelligence of the west leaded by USA, they continue to negotiate with the SNAKE on nuclear issues!!!

  • Adam

    It is interesting that the Boston bombers family are claiming that their son was radicalized by a bald headed, red bearded Armenian that nobody can locate. That was the headline yesterday on the anniversary of the Armenian genocide which of course none of the articles mentioned. They must have had a big laugh over that.

    • Alvaro

      I also read that the mother blamed America for what happened. Yes, you read it correctly.

      By the way, if you don't like this post I blame America as well.

  • tagalog

    The West should also be abundantly aware that the Armenians are not only Christian, but are ROMAN CATHOLIC (and have been since the earliest days of Christianity) in a part of the Christian world -surrounded by Islam- that is almost exclusively Eastern Orthodox.

    In the time of the genocide, the Turks wouldn't mess with the Eastern Orthodox Church because the nations in which the Eastern Orthodox was dominant, particulary Russia, would have done some exterminating of Turks in return. The Turks are tough but they know when the other guy has a bigger stick.

    The Christian West is doubly wrong, for not only have they largely ignored the Christian Armenians, they have largely ignored a people who shares the Western church's Catholic Christian sectarian beliefs.

    • F.K. Juliano

      Sorry to correct you, but Armenians are not traditionally Roman Catholic. The Armenian Apostolic Church, to which about 90 percent of Armenians belong is an Oriental Orthodox church, therefore closely aligned with Egypt's Coptic Church and also the main Ethiopian Church, though not with the Greek or Russian churches. A minority of Armenians is Catholic, but they are Armenian Catholic, which is to say, while in full communion with the Pope they use an Armenian liturgy. Interestingly, an Armenian Catholic, Cardinal Aghajanian, was nearly elected pope in the place of John XXIII. That would have been totally unprecedented since there has never been a pope from a branch of the Catholic Church other than the Roman branch (which is much bigger than all the rest).

    • Arius

      Sorry, but the Armenian Church is Orthodox, not Roman Catholic.

      • reader

        It's neither. It's Gregorian, with Etchmiadzin as their equivalent of Vatican City.

  • RockerMom

    The Armenians are NOT Roman Catholic; theirs is the Apostolic Church with its own head and its own hierarchy. Armenia is one of the oldest Christian cultures, predating many others.
    Beware of the Turks who still have not acknowledged their guilt in this massacre. They pay almost all U.S. universities to teach their version. At least the German government and many Germans have faced their guilt in World War II.

    • tagalog

      The Armenian Apostolics do distinguish themselves somewhat from Roman Catholics, but the Armenian Apostolic Church follows the Latin Rite.

      • Arius

        INCORRECT! I'm Armenian, I should know! Stop peddling your disinformation.

        • tagalog

          You mean the Apostolic Church DOESN'T follow the Latin Rite?

          How come you're not "Arian?" Just kidding. Are you any relation to the original Arius?

  • RoguePatriot6

    "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"-Edmund Burke

    And he was right on target. One of the biggest reasons is people have the natural tendency to disregard attrocities because it doesn't directly effect them. However a cancer such as this soon becomes everyone's problem. As for today, for the most part the problem will continue to spread with the slaughtering of Christians and Jews due to poltical correctness and our pathetic habbit of turning a blind eye to evil when our so called friends conduct such activities.

  • LindaRivera

    We will NEVER forget the many barbaric mass genocides of our people perpetrated by cruel Muslims because our people don't worship the deity Muslims call Allah. We worship the HOLY ONE. The Glorious, Majestic Awesome, One God, our Magnificent Creator!

    European and British ruling elites have massively colonized Britain and Europe with many millions of hostile, infidel-hater Muslims in order for Muslims to OBEY commands in the Quran and mosques to wage jihad against hated infidels and conquer our nations. It is the greatest betrayal by nations' leaders in all of human history.

    Founder of Islam, Mohammed: “I have been made victorious with terror”, “Wage war on the infidel and kill them until Islam is dominant” (Quran 8:39)

    End Muslim Turkey's ILLEGAL occupation of Cyprus!

    Britain's Prime Minister Cameron is EAGER to have war aggressor Turkey, become a member of the EU in order to flood Europe and Britain with millions of Turkish Muslims.

    Cameron doesn't care that not that long ago, Muslim Turkey perpetrated a barbaric mass genocide of Armenian Christians.

    Turkish Prime Minister, Erdogan: The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers…

    Quran 9:5 “Kill Jews and Christians wherever you find them”.

    Our wicked TRAITOR leaders must be made aware we will no longer tolerate their evil cooperation with Muslim leaders to conquer our countries via massive Muslim immigration invasion. Vote the TRAITORS out!

    The barbarians are inside the gates – invited in by our treasonous leaders.

    “Killing Jews is worship that draws us close to Allah”
    Al-Aqsa TV (Hamas), Nov. 18, 2012 http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=427

    We must demand that Muslims free the slaves! 1,400 years of the terrible cruelty of Muslims taking slaves continues to this very day in Mauritania, Sudan and other countries.

    Jihad Slavery in Sudan, with Dr Charles Jacobs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP4Fcx7AE_o

    Non-Muslims of the world unite! We must not go quietly into the night!
    Join and support Liberty GB, Britain's last great hope! http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/

    • Arius

      You are correct, idiot Europeans have invited a deadly enemy into their house.

  • Semper Inifidelis

    Quibble all you like. Muslim mass murderers are Muslim mass murders, it's what the creeps do.

    • Smote

      Pig see, pig do?

  • R.D.Nathan

    When muslims in Bengaladesh persecute Hindus none of the Christian organisations raised their voice. Even the Churchs there have not extended a helping hand. What is happening in Pakistan? None of the international forums taking up the matter. That gave the muslims unbrittled courage and they started cleansing the world through jihad. The Christians in India during late 1990s created a MYTH as if Christian preachers are killed/rapped by Hindus, instead of joining with them to protect the entire Indians from muslim atrocities. Even the senators from US expressed their concern on the well being of the Christians in India. Of course their lies exposed subsequently but none of the Christian organisations ever expressed regret over it. Let sane will prevail up on Christians at least now. Let the Christians bury their hatches and join hands with other religions to fight islam ideologically.

    • Indus Valley

      "When muslims in Bengaladesh persecute Hindus none of the Christian organisations raised their voice" – Well I don't hear Hindus in India protesting in a big way either. Two months back there was a carnage created by the illegal Bangladeshi Muslims in the Indian state of West Bengal, the majority of the Hindus in India didn't protest either. Almost 700 million Hindus are living in India & they can make their voice of protest heard, but nobody cares. Why is that???
      "Let the Christians bury their hatches and join hands with other religions to fight islam ideologically." – Yes we need to fight evil together, I agree. But its high time the Hindus wake up in India. The first thing is a strong protest against the killings of non-Muslims in the Indian Sub-Continent.

      • Indus Valley

        Lighting candles after every Jihadi bomb blasts in India is not the answer. Blaming just Pakistan after every Jihadi killings in India is not the answer either. Yes of course Pakistan is involved, thats because they are Muslims who wants to destroy infidel India & don't forget the home grown Muslim jihadists in India. Indians don't talk about the home grown jihadis cos of PC.

    • Mary Sue

      Yeah, the hindus and christians should band together against the common foe.

    • Drakken

      Sorry to burst that pacifist bubble of yours ,but christians need to pick up the sword and the hatchet and bury them in some muslims, anything else is our demise. Islam needs to be fought with deeds not words.

  • defcon 4

    The amoral lieberal left are completely on-board w/the genocide of Christians by muslimes, has anyone ever heard ANY of our "elected" representatives ever condemn islamofascist persecution of anyone? Anywhere? Aside from Bachman?

    • Questions

      The late California congressman, Tom Lantos, a Democrat, spoke passionately about human rights abuses everywhere. Jewish and born in Hungary, he had spent time during his youth in a Nazi labor camp. He knew first-hand about genocide. He wasn't above denouncing Muslim outrages either.

      • defcon 4

        People like him are literally a dying breed. Now we have the corrupt and amoral clothing themselves in the veneer of morality.

  • defcon 4

    I discussed the Armenian genocide w/a Turkish islamofascist once. He stated emphatically there was no genocide as it was the Turkish muslimes were merely defending themselves against the genocidal Christians. He also denied the Istanbul pogrom of the 1950's, at which point the conversation of lies ended.

  • Smote

    We don't need to envisage a place place called Hell. For we are already here!

  • watsa46

    Why is the Jewish left denying the Armenian Holocaust!!!!!

    • Parenthetical Phrase

      I have listened to liberal Jews and for the most part, they don't deny the Armenian Holocaust. However, if you want to separate the deniers into religious groups, ask yourself why Christians deny the Armenian Holocaust. One would think that Western Christians would be enthusiastic about demanding that Turkey own up to this.They are not any more than they are for protecting the rights of Christians ANYWHERE in the world (except Israel). There are Jews who have pointed out that the Armenians were allies of Hitler and still today there are many Armenians who praise Hitler and blame Jews for a host of ills that make them sound exactly like they stepped out of the Third Reich. One would think these two groups would see that a strong alliance would benefit them both. The Israeli government has finally acknowledged the Armenian Holocaust and quite a while back Netanyahu in a speech directed at the Turks, brought up the Armenian Holocaust and implied that Erdogan's family may have played a part in it. American Jews for the most part empathize with the Armenians, and it was a Jewish Congressman in California who pushed for the U.S. government (federal) to recognize it and to make it's policy known to Turkey.

    • Lan Astaslem

      because they're LEFTISTS and Jews in name only.

  • surfcitysocal

    Hitler’s quote is chilling. It looks like he learned from history…something America seems to refuse to do.

  • Brian Schiff

    Actually,I’d prefer to take the Armenian side-my bias is generally against Turkey and Islam.Throwing the word “genocide” around regarding the Armenian’s -and refusal to look at evidence that it clearly wasn’t unfortunately-and coincidently puts me in agreement with Tallarmeniantales.com…Mass-murdering civilians is an atrocity-genocide it ain’t.

    • Arius

      IT WAS GENOCIDE!

    • Mary Sue

      Yeah, because crucifying a gazillion GIRLS is relevant to their interests. [/sarcasm]

    • defcon 4

      I guess it wasn't a total genocide — after all every muslime needs a few slave girls to rape and molest and Armenian girls and women fit the bill perfectly didn't they Mehmet?

      • Brian Schiff

        Whatever you say ,Adolph.

        • Ian Nairn

          This is Genocide according to the UN definition in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

          [G]enocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
          (a) Killing members of the group;
          (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
          (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
          (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
          (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

          It looks like what happened to the Christians (Armenian, Assyrian and Greeks) in Turkey and all five can be ticked off. So it is clearly genocide.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    The history of man will on Judgement Day be exposed in all of it's disgusting horror, not one
    deed will be missed that was a wrong deed, no one has been overlooked nor forgotten in
    the eyes of the Almighty. I know what faith I have and what my destiny is following Christ
    the Redemeer but Scripturely speaking for those who are to stand and be judged for the
    acts of thier lives, wow, I do not want to be in thier shoes, there is no escaping Judgement
    and it will be a revelation of the words "Who can stand in that day"…denial will not help,
    nor "I don't recall"……..Every day is one closer to the end……………………..William

  • Alvaro

    "In 1915, Adolf Hitler rationalized his genocidal plans, which he implemented some three decades later, when he rhetorically asked: “Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?”"

    It looks like you messed up the year. (Should it be 1925?) The Armenian genocide started in 1915 and lasted until about 1922. Hitler was in the trenches in 1915 and kept his mouth shut about politics. Neither did he write a diary. His first writings that I am aware of are from about 1919, and Mein Kamp was written from 1923-24, and published in 1925 – where the Armenian genocide is mentioned.

    • Questions

      Hey, you're actually forcing people here to think.

  • George

    For anybody denying that what happened to the Armenians was Genocide, one simply need to look up to the person who coined the term, 'genocide.' Raphael Lemkin, a Jew, came up with the term Genocide in 1944. When asked how he came up with it in an interview, he said, " "I became interested in genocide because it happened so many times. First to the Armenians, then after the Armenians, Hitler took action."

    You can google his name, or simply read the Wikipedia page on Genocide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

  • Brian Schiff

    For anyone who really believes what happened to the Armenian's is "genocide"-and is capable of getting through remedial reading,here's one from the Republic of Turkey Ministry of Foreign Affairs..I know what some of you are gonna say,but there is nothing similar involving the Holocaust and the deliberate murder of six million Jews by the Nazi's http://www.mfa.gov.tr/the-armenian-allegation-of-

    • Alvaro

      Did you honestly expect an honest analysis on guilt from the same state who perpetrated the crime? Are you really that naïve?

      • Brian Schiff

        Not as naive as you Alvaro.."For everyone else"-Denial from Bernard Lewis that what happened to the Armenian's was genocide. .http://www.ataa.org/reference/karpel.html

        • Brian Schiff

          Bernard Lewis on Armenian "genocide"bs(youtube). .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4

        • Mary Sue

          so a few armed Armenian rebels means that crucifying harmless helpless GIRLS en masse isn't Genocide? FFS they only killed them because they were Christian!

          • Brian Schiff

            Bernard Lewis was fined a franc because of this nonsense;keep it up,maybe they'll fine him two francs.

          • Anita

            Stop calling yourself Brian. What's wrong with your Turkish name? Makes it too obvious you are a turk? If you want to hide your turkishness be smart enough to stop insisting on denial of your people genociding others. Increasingly more and more Turkish journalists and historians are claiming that it was all genocide. Quoting the dinosaurs of the yesteryears like Bernard Lewis, you are making a laughingstock of yourself.

    • defcon 4

      The 1001 lies of Islam, which ones are these? 500 – 512?

  • Arius

    We Armenians know that it was GENOCIDE.

    • defcon 4

      That won't stop muslimes from lying about it…endlessly. I wish I could 've showed up at the demonstration in front of the Turkish consulate in L.A. yesterday.

  • LindaRivera

    To you all, this and my next two comments are very scary.

    Obama’s blood trail from Benghazi to Boston

    This article is also at Canada Free Press.

    …The Obama regime is in place to finish what was started long ago. Now, the players under Obama and a complicit press are shielding the truth from the American people. We are not being told the truth about anything, from Benghazi to Boston, and the common factor in all of this is Saudi Arabia.

    Our intimate relationship with Saudi Arabia began in earnest (most recently) under George Herbert Walker Bush, and was further expanded by George W. Bush, a/k/a “Bandar Bush,” a name earned for his intimate relationship with Prince Sultan bin Bandar of Saudi Arabia. It should be clear by now that the continuity of this globalist, Pan-Islamic agenda that existed under Bush was further solidified and even expanded by the Obama administration.

    It is not a political agenda, but a globalist one. We do not have elected leaders who favor the U.S., but internationalists that favor the globalist agenda. Understanding this should explain that the right-left paradigm is a historical artifact, and provide prospective in terms of how the government is pushing this agenda towards completion. We’ve been overtaken and captured from within.

    We’ve learned from the 2001 attacks that the Saudis are the largest exporters of terrorism, yet we continue to work for them, providing our military assets and our troops to doing their dirty work. Through the Muslim Brotherhood, they have infiltrated many, if not all levels of our government. As stated, this did not begin under Obama, but was expanded under him. And what better presidential candidate was there to accomplish this objective? Now does his meteoric rise from a community organizer to state senator to President make better sense?…

    Americans believe what they see and hear about everything from Benghazi, Boston, and even to matters of our economy? We are a captured operation.

    Just as the situation involving al Harbi provides us with a window into this agenda, Benghazi provides us with that same window. Unraveling the truth from the lies in both instances will show just how deep the U.S. is involved with expanding the Saudi Kingdom of power across the Middle East, even at our own national peril. Of critical importance, this relationship is leading us on the path to World War III…

    …Before the marathon bombings, Russian intelligence officials warned the U.S. about the Islamic terror threat posed by Islamic terrorists in the U.S., including the older brother of the Boston bombing duo. The FBI KNEW the identity of the elder Boston bomber a year ago. Yet, the U.S. DHS, under the Obama regime, deliberately ignored the warnings. We’re spreading and actually sponsoring this radicalization through this Pan-Islamic agenda, yet most people cannot see the bigger picture…

    …Despite these warnings, the U.S. set up the largest weapons running operation in Benghazi, a location from where weapons were shipped under U.S. operational command to the Islamic terrorists in Syria to topple the Assad regime. The Saudis were the paymasters for this operation, but are duplicitous.

    Benghazi was the direct result of this operation, and we now find ourselves in a proxy war with Russia-and soon to be China- with no peaceful end in sight as the U.S. continues to do the dirty work for the Saudis, the internationalists, the international bankers, and the global elite. The terror attacks in Boston were the latest blowback from our foreign policy, and there will be more… http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/8274

  • LindaRivera

    Read this next article as a background to the article that follows:

    WND:COM:
    Obama's giveaway: Oil-rich islands to Russia
    Exclusive: Joe Miller sounds alarm over deal to put land in hands of Putin's Kremlin
    02/16/2012

    Part of Obama’s apparent war against U.S. energy independence includes a foreign-aid program that directly threatens my state’s sovereign territory. Obama’s State Department is giving away seven strategic, resource-laden Alaskan islands to the Russians. Yes, to the Putin regime in the Kremlin.

    The seven endangered islands in the Arctic Ocean and Bering Sea include one the size of Rhode Island and Delaware combined. The Russians are also to get the tens of thousands of square miles of oil-rich seabeds surrounding the islands. The Department of Interior estimates billions of barrels of oil are at stake… http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obamas-giveaway-oil-ri

  • LindaRivera

    Russia Is Preparing To Attack America

    by Dave Hodges – thecommonsenseshow.com February 26, 2013

    United States has not been attacked on the home front for 200 years dating back to the War of 1812. There exists a plethora of confirming information to support the fact that America’s days may be numbered and that we are totally unprepared for what is coming.

    Russia, through the traitorous cooperation and complicity of President Obama, is positioning its assets in order to attack Alaska. Before I piece together the many elements of the planned Russian “surprise attack”, it is important for America to understand that it takes a communist to bring communism to America. Obama was bred by communists, raised by communists, educated at the finest schools with communist money, his political career was launched by communists and his controllers in the White House are communists. Part one of this series will clearly establish the fact that Obama is the lynchpin of a multigenerational plan to hand America over to the Russians and to the Chinese communists.

    Obama did not just wake up one day and decide to weaken American defenses and hand over the country to the Russian communists. Obama was groomed for this position for the past several years. He is indeed the right communist, at the right time, whose mission is to bring America the most crippling form of communism the world has ever seen.

    Russian Defectors Have Warned the US About This Moment

    High-profile Soviet defectors have been telling American intelligence agencies for decades that the Russians have engaged in a multigenerational plot to destabilize America prior to the takeover in which both the Russians and the Chinese will unleash a ferocious military assault upon our country…

    Golitsyn states that Russia, after lulling America to sleep, will join with China in order to attack the United States from both the outside and inside as he detailed that …the Soviets and the Chinese will be officially reconciled and enact a “scissors strategy” in which China will attack the US through the southern border and Russia through northern border by way of Alaska.

    As the reader will clearly see in the following paragraphs, Obama is the catalyst in making these long-range communist plans come to fruition….. http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/02/26/russ

  • Eduardo

    Never had any doubts about how Islam is violent in essence.
    This religion leads people to a spiritual blindness. Thanks to the complicity of Western liberals and leftists, Islamists are acting more freely against Christians.

  • Anamah

    A shocking global public embarrassment….

  • Mr. Polly

    "The forgotten genocide"? Turning to Deuteronomy 20:16-18 (KJV) I find several truly forgotten genocides:

    "16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give three for an inheritance, THOU SHALT SAVE ALIVE NOTHING THAT BREATHETH: 17 BUT THOU SHALT UTTERLY DESTROY THEM; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee: 18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God."

    Here we see THE BIRTH OF THE VERY IDEA OF JIHAD, at least as Pamela Geller uses the term — the birth of the very idea of slaughtering the infidels at the commandment of God. That they are to be slaughtered BECAUSE THEY ARE INFIDELS is clear from verse 18. That they are to slaughtered AT THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD is clear throughout.

    But maybe Jews are angered to think that Muslims stole what Jews consider to be one of their best ideas. Now Jews must seek supremacy over the infidels by other means than Jihad.

    • Mary Sue

      No, they were slaughtered because they were EVIL. There's a difference. The Moabites were not killed off. They were pagan, they were "infidels" maybe, but weren't evil enough. The Ammonites were the inbred hillbilly cousins of the Israelites (via Lot, Abraham's relative) and weren't slaughtered (also they were not evil enough).

      Not all the Hittites were slain, after all, whose wife did King David steal? URIAH THE HITTITE!

      The Amalekites (mentioned elsewhere and who were utterly wiped out) were a special case; they were marauding robbers that HAD to be killed off because they were dangerous and were bandits who murdered people for their stuff and went OUT OF THEIR WAY to do so.

      Unlike with Islam, when God told Israel to take people out, it was for what they had DONE, NOT BECAUSE OF WHO THEY WERE.

      • defcon 4

        That was an excellent essay — especially that last sentence. Of course, the muslimes try to spin MuhamMAD's slaughter and enslavement of the Jews in a similar light, despite the fact their own holey texts of hatred make it pretty plain MuhamMAD attacked not only w/o any cause whatsoever, but under the pretext of a peace treaty!

    • Lan Astaslem

      There's photo of Christian girls crucified by bloodthirsty savages, the article is about an atrocity carried out by subhuman muslim garbage against Christians, but a twisted knuckle dragger like you just has to bring Jews into it. You are one obsessed, pathetic loser, achchchchchchchcmed.

  • tanstaafl

    The Armenian genocide is a fact. As long as Turkey still denies this fact, there is blood on their hands.

    • defcon 4

      I've give you a thousand to one odds against that ever happening, but I wouldn't want to be seen as stealing your money.

  • nina

    So the Armenians worked with Hitler. And so did a million Muslims (Chechens among them). A nice aliance.

  • nina

    By the way: A Jewish Austrian writer by the name of Franz Werfel wrote a book about the Armenian suffering called :The Forty Days of Musa Dag.