Does Glenn Greenwald Hate America?

greenwald_glennphotoThe Los Angeles chapter of the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has announced that Glenn Greenwald, the far-Left journalist who publicized Edward Snowden’s information about the astonishingly broad extent of NSA electronic surveillance programs, will be its keynote speaker at its Orwellian-named “Faith in Freedom” dinner on November 16.

This will be the first time that Greenwald, who now lives in Brazil, will return to the United States since the NSA scandal broke. It is not surprising that a CAIR event would be the occasion for his return, since he has said that “there really is no organization with which I’d rather be spending my time, or with which I feel more at home than CAIR.”

Yet CAIR is an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding case — so named by the Justice Department. CAIR operatives have repeatedly refused to denounce Hamas and Hizballah as terrorist groups. Several former CAIR officials have been convicted of various crimes related to jihad terror. CAIR’s cofounder and longtime Board chairman (Omar Ahmad), as well as its chief spokesman (Ibrahim Hooper), have made Islamic supremacist statements. Its California chapter distributed a poster telling Muslims not to talk to the FBI. CAIR has opposed every anti-terror measure that has ever been proposed or implemented.

None of that means anything to Greenwald. “Despite malicious attacks and coordinated smear campaigns,” he has said, “including from our own government, and various other precincts [CAIR] has continued to devote itself relentlessly and really quite heroically to the fight for what I think is quite clearly, far and away, the greatest civil liberties crisis of our generation, at least, which is the persecution of Muslim Americans, and Muslims generally, in the post-9/11 era, which is really an assault on the liberties of everyone.”

He did not propose any way to defend ourselves against jihad terror without scrutiny of Muslim-Americans and Muslims generally.

At the CAIR dinner he will be speaking along with the imam Siraj Wahhaj, one of the most sought-after speakers on the Muslim speakers circuit in the U.S. Wahhaj was designated a “potential unindicted co-conspirator” in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing for taking the Blind Sheik to speak at mosques in New York and New Jersey in the early 1990s.

When Wahhaj spoke at the University of Central Florida in 2011, he was asked whether he would condemn Hamas and Al-Qaeda. Instead of answering directly, Wahhaj launched into a lengthy complaint against his having been designated a “potential unindicted co-conspirator.” With obvious annoyance in his voice, Wahhaj complained that that designation essentially meant nothing; an audience member drew sympathetic laughter when she asserted that it meant that Wahhaj was “innocent.” Wahhaj did not explain to his UCF audience that he earned the designation by sponsoring talks in the early 1990s by the Blind Sheikh, Omar Abdel Rahman, in mosques in New York City and New Jersey; Rahman was later convicted for conspiring to blow up the World Trade Center in 1993.

Wahhaj has also warned that the United States will fall unless it “accepts the Islamic agenda.” He has also asserted that “if only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate.”

Greenwald’s willingness to appear in such company is a telling indication of the core beliefs and assumptions that underlay his revelations of the scope of NSA surveillance. While there is no reason for the NSA to be conducting surveillance on such a massive basis, and it is a symptom of the pervasive refusal to face the reality and magnitude of the jihad threat, the chief foes of this surveillance have been Leftist and Islamic supremacist groups that have opposed every counter-terror measure that has ever been proposed, as well as libertarian groups that persist in the delusion that if American power is removed from Muslim countries, the jihad against the U.S. will cease.

That in itself is an indication that the NSA surveillance may hamper the activities of Islamic jihadists more than has been advertised. While its scope is still way too broad, it is noteworthy that in none of Glenn Greenwald’s many writings on the subject does he propose an alternative that would protect Americans’ civil liberties while also protecting them from would-be Islamic jihad mass murderers.

And so, as he prepares to return to America to hobnob with members of the notorious Hamas-linked Muslim Brotherhood front group CAIR, the question must be asked: does Glenn Greenwald hate America? Or does he just act as if he does?

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  • puciferaneous

    Sad that you’re slandering the one journalist in America who’s done more to reveal the crimes of the current administration than any other. Is Spencer being pd off by Soros

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Since when is the Truth slander?

      Maybe Glenn Greenwald can attend the CAIR party accompanied by his boyfriend. That should get CAIRs attention.

      • truebearing

        He could be the “honored” guest at a beheading.

        Of course, the Muslims are just as ruthless, hypocritical, and opportunistic as any Marxist. They will endure his homosexuality as long as he is hurting the US.

      • defcon 4

        That would be funny. Maybe he could get his boyfriend to wear a daring backless tuxedo w/some tight leather buttless trousers.

    • truebearing

      Your comment makes no sense. Try reading the entire article next time.

    • Daniel Greenfield

      Greenwald is on the same side as Soros.

      They’re both anti-American pro-terrorist left-wing creeps.

      • puciferaneous

        Because Greenwald is such a big supporter of Obama and US empire…

        • Daniel Greenfield

          Soros doesn’t support the US. He supports using people like Obama to destroy it.

          • puciferaneous

            Greenwald is doing more to undermine the Obama administration than anyone else right now. His reportage has revealed it to be a complete farce to the world.

          • ziggy zoggy

            And what did the heroic Gaywald do to undermine Obama? Boycott a White House press conference? Take the Obama bumper sticker off his car? Join the Tea Party?

            Idiot.

          • puciferaneous

            Aware of l’affaire Snowden at all?

        • Omar

          The U.S. is not an empire and never will be. Russia and China are empires. That’s the reality.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “Is Spencer being pd off by Soros”

      What?!

    • Rocky Mountain

      The probability is that he would do anything to slander, defile, or attack
      America regardless of the administration. It just so happens that Obama is in power at this time but I think his actions would’ve been a lot sweeter to him and his ilk had they taken place during the Bush administration or any Republican administration. I know the Libertarians and the ‘black helicopter’ crowd get their knickers in a twist about all this and probably some of it does need to be evaluated and reigned in but the fact is that Snowden, Greenwald et al are not heroes. They would’ve turned over any information they could’ve obtained no matter how legitimate it was if it would further their agenda.

    • FreedomOfSpeechNeeded

      The reason they slander Glenn is because they don’t really believe in the rights of Americans, nor the American Constitution. These nutters are religious Zealots who put Israel before America, because they believe God gave Israel to the Jews. Funnily enough, they choose to ignore the thousand years of persecution the Jews suffered under Christians – like when Martin Luther justified the killing of Jews.

      If America needs to progress, these religious zealots should be kicked out and sent to live in Israel.

      • defcon 4

        Your implicit assumption is that Jews weren’t persecuted by muslimes simultaneously. Furthermore, it’s muslimes who are persecuting Jews now — in any muslime state in which Jews are unfortunate enough to reside.

        • FreedomOfSpeechNeeded

          No, I have never said Muslims didn’t persecute Jews, because unlike you, I am not a brainwashed religious zealot.

          I know full well that Muslims persecuted Jews too, I also know full well that Jews fought alongside the Muslims during the Crusades and that when the Christians captured Jerusalem, they massacred the Jews.

          All I said was that I find it funny that Christians these days like to overlook the fact that they persecuted Jews for thousands of years.

          • defcon 4

            I don’t give a FFF what happened hundreds of years ago, I’m talking about what’s happening in the here and now dirtbag.

      • ziggy zoggy

        You sound like a Naz! or Grand Dragon. Don’t put words in people’s mouths. Especially not crazy words.

  • truebearing

    Greenwald is a twisted, self-righteous fraud. Posturing in support of CAIR– and therefore the Muslim Brotherhood and murderous Islamists like them — destroys his moral standing. Decrying the wrongs of the NSA, but defending, even praising the front group for Islamists who literally crucified Coptic Christian, exposes him as the soulless nihilist that he is.

    Greenwald has confused a ideological conscience for a moral conscience. He doesn’t know the true meaning of morality.

    • NOTANEMOPROG

      Utter tripe.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        glenn greenwald = utter tripe.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Utter fail. You can’t refute a word TB wrote.

      • truebearing

        Ah! I see what you’re doing there. You’re anticipating the responses of other commenters to your own. How prescient!

    • puciferaneous

      How much are Soros and Organizing For America paying you to slander Greenwald?

      • Drakken

        Ah Soro’s and company support and defend Gaywald.

        • puciferaneous

          Wrong. They’ve been smearing him all over the place. The Obama administration drove him out of the US.

          • truebearing

            Obama finally did something right?!? OMG!

  • antioli

    And when they do not need him any more they will call him a Jewish spy and a Homosexual.

    • chopper

      then he can suk my dik.

    • asdasda

      if your wrong, I expect you to delete that comment

    • Lee Mulcahy PhD

      “And so, as he prepares to return to America to hobnob with members of the notorious Hamas-linked Muslim Brotherhood front group CAIR,”

      Source?

      What a ridiculous comment.

      #TeaParty for Glenn Greenwald

  • Tabitha Bliss

    RE: “Does Glen Greenwald Hate America?”

    – From Greenwald’s speech at the ‘Socialism 2011′ conference in Chicago:

    “Al-Qaeda hoped a single attack on U.S. soil, very minimal in scope compared to the level of deaths that the United States has been bringing to the world for decades–from Vietnam to illegal wars in Central America–would trigger bankruptcy-inducing policies.Ironically, the only thing that can truly strengthen America’s national security is a weakening of America.”

    -What do you think?

    • defcon 4

      Greenwald is an a$$-hole par excellence! He makes Spinoza look like a good guy.

    • m4253y

      i think an eventual muslime bullet to his forehead would be a remedy to dull this gay blade.

      • NOTANEMOPROG

        You vile fascist.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          You VILE nazitional SOCIALIST.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            LOL

            You’re funny.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Thanks comrade!

            And Happy Nakba!

          • defcon 4

            Seconded!

          • ziggy zoggy

            You aren’t.

          • truebearing

            You’re stupid.

        • ziggy zoggy

          You don’t even know the definition of the word”fascist.”

          Ironic.

        • truebearing

          Fascists are just nationalistic Progressives. In fact, now Fascism is being used by the Left, eg, Obama, as a stepping stone to the next stage of totalitarian Marxist evil. Do you hate Obama and think he is vile? Racist!

          • Drakken

            Progressives are communist, not nationalist.

          • winstons

            Nope…check out Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism” for the historical details.

        • m4253y

          what is vile is the fascism which you so openly display and support. what you construe as fascism is freedom of expression when those who state the inconvenient facts that run contrary to your Utopian fascist dreams.

          you would rather run around and simply call people names without any substantive counterpoint. and why? because fascists such as you strive to restrict free speech not by debate but by muzzling those who are inconvenient to their oppressive desires for everyone to do as they say, though not as they do.

          for you, i have but one final comment; when the battle does eventually begin and lines are formed of those who will die for this country are stacked against those composed of the likes of you who wish to overthrow it, i will assure you that you will be of the first casualties.

      • A Z

        What I want to know is if he felt inadequate or got beat up in school.

        • ziggy zoggy

          He was a locker room peeper who suffered from unrequited love. He probably got beatings on a daily basis. He was a sub standard student too. Academically challenged.

          • A Z

            He has a JD; he went to law school. I am not accusing him of not having brains, but very intelligent people can be very stupid.

            All the logic in world that a person computes can be absolutely flawless, but it matters not if your underlying a priori assumptions are bad.

            At this point I do not think Greenwald could see the truth much less handle it.

            ***

            I would very much like to know what his school life was like. Forensic psychology would tell us why he is messed up the way he is.

        • m4253y

          i cannot recall where i read this but apparently he was noted for being both the prom queen and homecoming queen. pretty ‘heady’ stuff.

          • A Z

            That is high school and is a data point. TY for the info.
            I would like to know going all the way back. How many fights he had or how many times he had to back down, etc.

    • SB9876

      Tabitha, you need to learn the Fallacy of Innuendo. Since there is nothing obvious in this policy recommendation that indicates hatred of America, you have to explain why you think it does rather than just quote it and ask “what do you think”?

      P.S.:You clearly failed to understand Greenwald’s point. Get someone to explain it to you.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Uh……claiming that America is worse than Al Qaeda is the most extreme act of hatred possible. Not even the women who spit on you every day hate you as much as Gaywald hates America.

        You are an @$$clown. Get someone to explain it to you.

        • NOTANEMOPROG

          “claiming that America is worse than Al Qaeda”

          Another fabrication.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Where do the America haters protest al qada, hezbullah?

            Any protests in Eurabia? UN?

          • Troy

            “Al-Qaeda hoped a single attack on U.S. soil, very minimal in scope compared to the level of deaths that the United States has been bringing to the world for decades–from Vietnam to illegal wars in Central America” That is all fact, besides the point about the illegal wars, which is his opinion, which comes from his interpretation of the constitution. He is saying that the magnitude of death caused is greater, he is not saying that one is better then the other. It is in no ones interest to just ignore a fact because it sounds anti american to you. It is possible to love ones country, but not hold favorably the current state of the nation. My love of this country stems from its great founds, and genius constitution, and the opportunities it has given me all my life. That doesn’t mean i agree with the direction our government is taking us in.

            Just my two cents.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Fabrication? Are there any limits to your insanity?

          • trickyblain

            “Al-Qaeda hoped a single attack on U.S. soil, very minimal in scope compared to the level of deaths that the United States has been bringing to the world for decades–from Vietnam to illegal wars in Central America..”

            As much as it pains me to agree with Ziggy, it sure sounds like that’s exactly what he’s saying.

        • Omar

          It is true, however, that the Castro brothers, Mao, the Assad family and the Ayatollahs are far worse than the Shah and Mubarak.

        • SB9876

          Hello…stating a simple, obvious fact about one’s government does not imply that one hates one’s nation. The USG and America are not one and the same. This is semantics 101.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Right. You love America but hate the government. And the government is worse than al qaeda.

            Lying lunatic.

        • Seek

          Yet Paul Craig Roberts, a prominent conservative, says exactly the same thing. He has written many times in the last few years that the U.S. government under Bush and now Obama is the greatest danger to the safety of the world. He actually has said he prefers Al-Qaeda to the American leaders.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Geek,

            Well if Paul says so, I will march in lockstep.

            Cretin. Bush has nothing in common with Obama and the boy king wants to destroy America and strengthen islam.

      • trickyblain

        So, explain it.

        No 20th century worlld power had the restraint of the US. If Hitler or Tojo had the ability to nuke New York, Paris or London, are you naive enough to think they would not have? If Stalin had the bomb, are you telling us he wouldn’t have leveled Berlin, even London?

        Greenwald has the freedom of spewing his nonsense with full assurance that the US gov’t isn’t going to season his dinner with polonium-210, like Putin would do. He is a coward.

        • Mark Cosby

          So we should get some kind of prize for being less criminally fascist than the Third Reich? That’s your logic? You’re grateful to be an American because our authorities are a tad less evil than Putin? Sad.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The Third Reich was a National SOCIALIST dictatorship.

          • Mark Cosby

            What’s your point? I didn’t say anything about socialism.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The Third Reich was an example of Socialism at its worst.

          • Mark Cosby

            Established in power, Nazis became severely fascist. They were always against Marxist socialism, which Hitler derided as being against private property. Hitler’s socialism was focused against the bourgeois which he associated closely with Judaism, but he was never in favor of Marx’s brand of socialism. I, of course, would be careful of trying to find any parallels between the modern socialist countries of Europe and the Third Reich or saying that socialism is bad because the Nazis called themselves the National Socialist Party. Lincoln’s party was the Republican Party but it resembles the modern Republican Party very little, as the Democratic Party of the past is vastly different from today’s party.

          • Omar

            There needs to be some clarification. Yes, Nazi Germany opposed Marxism, but they did so mainly because of the nationalism-internationalism argument. The Nazis, like the Bolsheviks, opposed private property and centralized virtually everything in Germany during the interwar years. Regarding Democrats and Republicans, while there are differences between what they were historically and what they are today, you are repeating the left’s propaganda over the the so-called “party shift” that supposedly happened between the two parties in the late 1960s and early 1970s, supposedly over the issue of civil rights. While there were some politicians who did switch between Democrats and the GOP, that switch is minor. You ignore the fact that the main party shift at that time occured when members of the New Left movement took over the Democratic Party and changed its agenda in order for it to have a radical left agenda. Today, most contemporary Democrats came from the New Left movement, not the Republican Party. Today, the GOP is the party of classical liberalism, while the Democratic Party is the party of the radical left. That’s the reality.

          • trickyblain

            Mark, did I mention a prize? No. I live in this place called “reality.” In this place, “reality,” your post would put you in prison or worse in many, many other nations. Same goes for the regular imbeciles here at FPM that call Obama a Muslim/Kenyan/Marxist dictator. I’m grateful that I can express my opinion — without arrest, exile or torture — as an American, yes. I’m grateful to be an American for many other reasons other than our leaders being less evil than Putin, as you accused.

            Sad? No. I’m sure there’s an idiliic and imaginary world in which everyone is all kind and sharing and loving and fair. Successful hard working people share their fortunes with folks that refuse to work. Power families go totally self-awareness and abdicate all of their money and authority. Dogs love cats. Cats love rats. There are chocolate rivers and Ticket Oaks everywhere. Can you point to this utopian vision, carried out in “reality”? Why not?

          • Mark Cosby

            Well, there are advanced societies in the Netherlands where people have agreed that the state should educate people and give them healthcare. They participate in a system where their tax money goes towards helping each other in those important areas of life. Polls indicate that they’re happy to do it. They like their government. Furthermore they don’t experience the crime and violence, i.e. death, or incarceration that plagues the United States. Less death, violence, prisons, free healthcare and education, people who are happy with their government. Sounds pretty utopian when you compare it to the United States, no?

            So although not everyone is happy all the time in the Netherlands there are qualities of these societies that are by every rational measurement superior to the United States and many of these improvements could involve the implementation of a more socialist way of doing things. Ergo, the very thing that conservatives warn will destroy the fabric of society, socialism in the form of free healthcare and subsidized education, are exactly the things that are making the Scandanavans more happy with their government. Of course, the right wing, as I understand it, hate government so why would they want the citizens to be happy with it? That would only empower an institution, the state, that could act as a bulwark against the abuses of corporate power? They don’t want that do they? So they have to convince people to expect nothing good from gov’t. Scandanavians are the happiest people in the world. Why? Socialism. That’s the last thing the right wants you to know.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Workers of the world unite!

            Imbecile.

          • Mark Cosby

            Oh, look. The guy who says “Gaywald” and resorts to name calling because he has zero to say thinks I’m an “imbecile”. That’s cute. Considering the source I think I must be onto something.

          • defcon 4

            I’ll bet you consider Putin “evil” but islam0fascist states to be model democracies don’t you?

        • defcon 4

          What’s interesting is that the polonium-210 case happened to a Russian traitor, who publicly converted to islam on his death bed, but might have been a stealth jihadist all along.

          • Mark Cosby

            Jihadists? I think you’re afraid of the boogey man. Like a toddler. My guess is you’re a 1000 times more likely to get killed by your drunk redneck neighbor or to shoot your own toe off than to be the victim of jihad.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      No. greenwald has to explain why he defers to islamofascism which takes a dim view of his lifestyle.

      Why doesn’t glenn greenwald go all the way and terminate his American citizenship?

    • A Z

      The Soviet Union played all over Central America and the left is just peachy with it. When the USSR was intervening in Central America we had to intervene. It is that simple.

      The left is just trying to shame us into not fighting back. If I had my druthers I would trade known leftists for unknown people around the world. The U.S. would be better off. Or we could trade leftists for political prisoners on Cuba.

      The former prisoner can write about their experience in Cuba and the leftists could write about how bad the U.S. is. There would be no change for the leftist.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Cuba. The “Workers Paradise” established in 1959 – and like all socialist family dictatorships – has the same family at the helm.

        That’s 54 years with a Castro at the helm. Fidel to Raul

        No one else can be trusted or is qualified.

        • A Z

          I like it.

          You have a wining phrase there.

          It has been pointed out that communists states all devolve into oligarchies.

          But having to explaining an oligarchy to todays voters and proving it is simple too much to ask.

          Now pointing out the various socialist family dictatorships is easy to show and prove.

          Korea …Cuba … Syria … Argentina … Iraq

          • HistoryGuy

            And our state is not an oligarchy? Run for and by big money.

          • A Z

            I would not have thought that 10 years ago but I do now.

            It is not merely a matter of privilege from a family with money and connections. Chelsea Clinton with her 3 to 5 million dollar starter home comes to mind. Her career is unnatural as they come.

            I think we have a better chance at a rollback. Although the results of the NYC election are dismaying.

            Psychology is as much a must to learn as physics.

      • Omar

        In the current relationship between the United States and Communist Cuba, Communist Cuba is the modern-day Spain of King Philip II, while the United States is the modern-day Kingdom of England under Queen Elizabeth I. Just like Philip’s monarchy kept meddling in England’s internal affairs and attempted an invasion of the Channel (the Spanish Armada war) in 1588, the Castro brothers meddle in America’s internal affairs (including the affairs of one of America’s territories, Puerto Rico) and wants to transform the United States into a Communist country. The Castro family dictatorship is really awful.

    • Omar

      Greenwald supports all of the Soviet/ Russia and Chinese Communist sponsored coups, invasions, puppet states and their totalitarian agendas.

      • Lee Mulcahy PhD

        Now hold on just a NY second, Omar; unless you’re just being satirical…

        I’m a #teapartyer and Rand Paul is quoting Greenwald [in respect] on the floor of the Senate.

        Truth is often convienent; however Greenwald keeps speaking truth to power, be it Bush or Obama.

        We’re lucky to have someone with big enough Cojones to expose Obama’s NSA overreaches and lies.

        • Omar

          Does Greenwald talk about the plight of the Cuban people at the hands of the Castro brothers and their family dictatorship in Castrogonia (aka Communist Cuba)? Does Greenwald talk about how Venezuela is currently a client state of Communist Cuba ruled by an insane maniac who stole the presidential elections in the Cuban Raj (that’s what I call Venezuela, since it is Communist Cuba’s client state) this past April and who is ineligible to serve as president because he is not Venezuelan by birth (Nicolas Maduro, the Castro brothers’ puppet in Venezuela, is Colombian by birth and heritage). Does Greenwald complain about Communist China spying on its own citizens and repressing the democratic opposition in that country? Does Greenwald talk about repression in every country with an anti-Western autocracy or dictatorship, Communist or Islamist? So far, he hasn’t denounce even one of those regimes because he somewhat sympathizes with those regimes.

          • Lee Mulcahy PhD

            Actually, Greenwald does—e.g. in regards to Venezuela and Russia’s crackdown on freedoms.

  • defcon 4

    I can’t help but notice that asshats like Greenwald endlessly whine about the muslime victimhood narrative while ignoring the Christians, Hindus, Zoroastrians, Jews, Buddhists and Baha’i who are being persecuted, murdered and raped by muslimes all over the islamic world.

    • Jonathan Hinkle

      Glenn Greenwald would answer you with a quotation from Noam Chomsky:

      “My own concern is primarily the terror and violence carried out by my own state, for two reasons. For one thing, because it happens to be the larger component of international violence. But also for a much more important reason than that; namely, I can do something about it. So even if the U.S. was responsible for 2 percent of the violence in the world instead of the majority of it, it would be that 2 percent I would be primarily responsible for. And that is a simple ethical judgment. That is, the ethical value of one’s actions depends on their anticipated and predictable consequences. It is very easy to denounce the atrocities of someone else. That has about as much ethical value as denouncing atrocities that took place in the 18th century.”

      And that’s not just in theory. Here’s him, in his own words, addressing such criticisms as yours: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/apr/03/sam-harris-muslim-animus

      • defcon 4

        What “terror and violence”? And since when is the US (or, even more laughably, Israel) responsible for the majority of violence in the world? The simple fact is the ethnic cleansing and persecution in the world being carried out today is being carried out by muslimes. All over the Mid-East and Africa. All over S.E. Asia and all over the Indian sub-continent. His defense of the actions of islam0nazis in the 21st century, could just as easily be applied to the Holocaust.

        • Jonathan Hinkle

          The whole point Chomsky and (by quoting him) Greenwald are making is that (as far as their critiques are concerned) it doesn’t -matter- who’s responsible for the majority of violence in the world insofar as their critiques are concerned. They are both Americans, and so they are far more qualified to have strong opinions about whatever violence perpetrated by their country than they are by the violence perpetrated by people with whom they have no particular cultural connection.

          Additionally, your idea seems to be that if there are two problems and Problem B is worse than Problem A, then anyone trying to fix Problem A is a horrible person. Not all resources have to be pointed toward fixing the worst problem in the world. As an example: no healthcare for anyone at all until world hunger is eliminated. No one would suggest that.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The regressive “progressives” ideology is that any problem in the world must be blamed on America. Muslims killing Muslims – that too is the fault of the US.

            The infantilization of Arabs/Muslims by regressive “progressives” is shameful – and Racist.

          • Jakareh

            “They are both Americans, and so they are far more qualified to have
            strong opinions about whatever violence perpetrated by their country
            than they are by the violence perpetrated by people with whom they have
            no particular cultural connection.”

            You’re right. Unless you were a German during the 1940s, you are not qualified to examine whether the events that took place at Auschwitz-Birkenau were of a negative character. After all, how could one fathom the intricate social, political, historical, economic, cultural, and astrological conjunctures that led the sovereign nation of Germany to implement a policy of murdering human beings by the millions? Who are we to judge?

            The whole point of Chomsky (and yours) is that he is not only stupid but evil.

          • Jonathan Hinkle

            I didn’t claim (and I strongly suspect Glenn Greenwald and Noam Chomsky wouldn’t claim either) that Americans aren’t -permitted- to care about atrocities committed elsewhere, just that they certainly aren’t as -qualified- to examine them as people “on the ground” and they certainly aren’t as morally culpable for remaining silent. Any atrocity committed by our government that we don’t speak up against, we are complicit in.

          • ziggy zoggy

            America has always been a country that practices decency in a world where atrocities are the norm. Chomsky is a laughingstock and only a vile ret@rd would quote him as anything else.

            How can you even see to type with your head so far up your @$$? Does herpes cause brain damage when your head is so deep up in ya? 3:)

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Any atrocity committed by Islamists that Muslims don’t speak up against are complicit in too.

            Like the “compassionate” release of the convicted bomber of Pan Am 103 by scottish scumbags.

          • defcon 4

            How about the persecution of people of faiths other than islam being practiced in Dearbornistan, Michigan? How does that grab ya chuckles?

          • truebearing

            Neither you, nor they, have established these “atrocities” you keep yammering about. Get specific.

            The Left isn’t as qualified to speak about “atrocities committed elsewhere?” Is that right…then what about all of their know-it-all blather about Israel and the Middle East? They don’t live there, and by your/their argument, are consequently unqualified to comment on it, nor are they responsible for it, yet they continue to do so, in the strongest terms possible, ad nauseam.. It seems you have a polemical problem, not to mention a total lack of moral clarity.

            Let me give you a hint: people with no morals don’t do well in commenting on them. How could you? You don’t live there.

          • defcon 4

            LOL, yes who are we to judge muslimes slaughtering millions of the najjis kaffir in the Sudan/Darfur (in the late 20th/early 21st century? Or muslimes slaughtering millions of Hindus in Bangladesh (in the 1970’s)? Or muslimes slaughtering the najjis kaffir in E. Timor (also in the 1970’s)? Or muslimes ethnically cleansing W. Papua New Guinea of the najjis kaffir? I like your implicit argument of false equivalence as well — comparing the atrocities being committed all over the islamic world, in the here and now, to the “atrocities” being committed by the US and Israel.

          • upperatmos

            Aptly chosen icon.

          • defcon 4

            That was good. Double thumbs up.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Since when are Americans more “qualified” to have stronger opinions about fictional American international violence than the irrefutable worldwide violence committed by islamopithecines?

            And don’t pester your betters with straw man arguments about problem solving, healthcare, hunger or whatever other delusions you see in your diseased mind.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            ziggy zoggy AKBARRR!!!!

          • defcon 4

            There is no Problem A here fool. Only in your dim mind.

          • truebearing

            He, Greenwald, and Chomsky are trying to slide one by when it comes to the accepted premises of their “logical” posturing. They are also conflating violence with terrorism, primarily because they can’t come up with any legitimate examples of US terrorism. Typical Leftist sophistry.

          • Scotty44

            From Wikipedia: “Terrorism is the systematic use of violence (terror) as a means of coercion for political purposes. In the international community, terrorism has no legally binding, criminal law definition.[1][2] Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror); are perpetrated for a religious, political, or ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians)” War fits said definition since it is used to scare governments into doing what we want, and we have instigated many wars. Torture fits. Using drones fits. Police using violence on demonstrators to scare sympathizers away fits.
            Someone said “There are none so blind as those who will not see.”

          • truebearing

            Wikipedia….what a joke. I see you had to use a source where Leftists can revise history.

            Your idiotic broadbrush definition of war presupposes that both sides were equally responsible for causing the war. When we stopped Nazi Germany, were we terrorists? There are agressors in war, and those who are defending against them. There are countries that provoke war, and those who stop them. There are nations that commit atrocities and countries who put an end to it. The US is that country, and has been from its inception. Mutants like yourself are self-deluded enough to think a failed 19th Century ideology will somehow be better than the most prosperous, just, free nation in human history. You are an utter fool.

            Lets talk about history’s most prolific practitioners of terror, after the Muslims, of course. The Marxists. The 20th Century saw Marxist regimes murder 150,000,000 of the citizens living in their “egalitarian utopias.” They terrorized their own citizens in order to impose Marxist ideology on unwilling people. That is the ultimate in domestic terrorism, yet you hypocritically attack the US for standing up to tyrants like the Muslims who would do the exact same thing, and possibly worse.

            You claim to hate torture but believe the end justifies the means. I’m no fan of torture, but what you and I call torture are two wildly different things, I’m sure. Sometimes the exigency of stopping terrorists bent on mass murder requires and justifies enhanced interrogation.

            “There are none so blind as those who will not see.”

            I agree, and you are that blind person…..and suffering from terminal irony.

          • Scotty44

            Leftest revise history? Winners write the history usually. Our history books are full of their point of view. Its nice to have a source where anyone can contribute with adequate documentation. I’ve noticed that the contributions without solid documentation are noted as needing more.
            Certainly, our military committed terrorism during WWII. It was war. Terrorism is a tactic all warring nations use. And the U.S. has provoked a number of wars. For example, blockading Japan’s rubber and oil supplies provoked its hostilities towards the U.S. It tried to provoke Iraq, but Saddam didn’t bite.

            What 19th century ideology are you fantasizing I support? Interesting that you limit your statement about the greatness of the U.S. by “most.” Is it because you realize it isn’t as great as it could be? Most Americans prefer a distribution of wealth similar to that which exists in Norway rather than that which exists in the U.S. Our governments on all levels slope the economic playing field that determines the distribution. By handing out corporate welfare by the bucket fulls while undermining labor at every opportunity, it assures that wealth is accumulated to the few rather than more evenly distributed. Then, of course, since the wealthy get such a great return investing in congress critters, they use a little of the wealth to make sure the government doesn’t recapture more of it to be used for the benefit of the nation. Those dynamics are just the result of the structure the framers of the constitution embedded in the document.

            You site horrific numbers of deaths attributed to Marxist regimes without noting from where they came. How many nations were involved, over what period of time? And how long ago? To a great extent, means of control have switched from brutality to political science. Regardless, I have no interest in defending Marxism. If you want to argue against Keynesian economic theory, I’ll put more effort into it.

            The FBI abhors torture, or enhanced interrogation if you prefer. It doesn’t mater how I or you feel about it. The FBI has demonstrated that building empathy and rapport gets results where torture has failed. Torture only gets you garbage. It is only used by pathetic excuses for human beings. And it promotes more terrorism. It is also illegal. Everyone that has used it should be in prison.

            Obviously, we will not agree on who is blind.

          • Omar

            You are so wrong. Japan attacked the United States in order to try and weaken us. The oil embargo was necessary, since Imperial Japan kept trying to build it’s totalitarian empire all over Asia and the Pacific. Have you heard or read about the Imperial Japanese atrocities in places that they conquered in the years leading up to the two world wars? In China, the imperial Japanese military committed numerous atrocitis like the Rape of Nanking in the Winter of 1937-1938 in which thousands of Chinese civilians died at the hands of the foreign army. In the Korean peninsula, the imperial Japanese regime, at one point, had banned the Korean language and it’s usage by the local population. You also ignored the fact that Imperial Japan was an Axis Power member allied with Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy before and during World War II. Next, you are going to claim that King George III and the American Revolution-era British were innocent victims of the American colonists’ “arrogance” and “selfishness”. Regarding the number of deaths caused by Communism, it is all documented by The Black Book of Communism book, which was written by French scholars and translated into English by Harvard University Press. According to the book, over 100 million people have died due to the Communist ideology in different parts of the world during the 20th century. That is undeniable. Quit repeating leftist propaganda and learn from facts.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Did the Soviet Union use terror in WW2?

            Did the Soviet Socialists have a non-aggression pact with the National Socialists of Germany?

            Did National Socialist Germany invade Poland and weeks later did Soviet Socialists invade Poland too – sharing the spoils of invasion?

            Did the fellow Socialist non-aggression pact last until one side reneged on the pact and invaded the other?

            Who invaded whom?

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

            Did Saddam Husseins Iraq ever have or use WMDs?

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack

          • truebearing

            You just contradicted yourself, or Chomsky, or both. Chomsky said the US was responsible for the majority of international terror, period. You’re saying it doesn’t matter who is responsible for the majority, according to their critique, but that isn’t true. Chomsky stated unequivocally that the US was responsible for the majority of international terrorism, and unless he is arguing that terrorism isn’t wrong, it does matter who is most responsible.

            Chomsky also failed to define terrorism, both in general, and specifically as regards unsupported allegations of US “terrorism.” His polemic rests firmly on the shifting sands of his dishonest, deluded, and devious opinion.

            Chomsky’s assertion that he is “responsible” for something he hasn’t remotely established — American terrorism — shows a man firmly in the grips of delusions of grandeur. No single citizen is responsible for the actions of a representative government. That argument is moronic, at best.

            Another element of sophistry in Chomsky’s paralogical polemic is his conflation of violence with terrorism. No sane person would imply that argument, for obvious reasons.

            When one country responds violently to terrorism inflicted on its citizens, it is self defense and wholly justifiable. When an entity, such as Al Queda, declares war on America, we are completely justified in responding with violence. If Greenwald or Chomsky were really opposed to violence, they would be condemning Islam for encouraging unprovoked violence as a method for achieving world domination.

            Your attempt at logic is as lacking as Chomsky’s contorted argument, and just as dishonest. You are assuming there is an accepted premise regarding America and its alleged terrorism. Your “Problem A” doesn’t exist. It is merely a tactic of propaganda.

            Chomsky and Greenwald see anything the US or israel do for self defense as “terrorism.” They butcher logic and twist simple definitions to arrive at their warped, messianic conclusions. Your attempts to explain their arguments failed because you aren’t critiquing them, you are regurgitating them…..come to think of it, all arguments made by the Left have that emetic quality.

          • Ansac

            Well that’s a very juvenile argument, why should they confine their assessment to their own country. After all, aren’t these guys “heavy-weight” intellectuals who are supposed to objectively analyse problems on a holistic manner and not to get limited by the geography they inhabit

            Its like criticizing and making big noise about your father for not allowing you to go to prom , whereas not saying a word
            against your friend’s father who constantly beats him up,
            just because he is notyour father and you are not the one who is getting beat up everyday

        • Michael

          All I can say to deacon is ‘we believe what we want to believe’!

        • Scotty44

          How about since its beginning, and even before if you consider our ancestors. Bringing European diseases to this continent decimated a native population greater numerically than Europe’s. They were even ignorant enough to take a native disease back to Europe, causing great loss of life. Don’t you consider slavery violence? Its aftermath is still causing violence. Our navy in its early years participated in piracy. The Spanish-American war was started by the U.S. after a U.S. ship had a malfunction. Gen. Smedley Butler said that he spent 33 years and 3 months in the U.S. marines as highly paid thug for U.S. corporations. And we haven’t gotten any better. Allbright, as Sec. of State, said the death of 500,000 Iraqi children due to our sanctions were worth it. And of course, George Bush’s war of choice killed a million more Iraqis for control of the gulf. Read “I was an economic hit man” to get a clue of how much violence are economic policies have done around the world, including here at home. Our government uses its power to suppress the minions for the benefit of the elite. Majority of violence – who can say. But since power provides the ability and means to use violence, and the U.S. is the most powerful, it has acted badly.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Current day slavery is practiced in Sudan and Mauritania.

            scotty44, make amends by packing up and returning to your ancestral home in socialist Eurabia. You can be a useful idiot for the Islamists.

          • Scotty44

            Can’t return to a place I have never been. You sound like a useful idiot to the fascists. And how nice. You don’t even have to move. Of course, America would be better off without you.

          • defcon 4

            Islam is fascism you damn, dumb, dolt.

          • Scotty44

            Try reality – from the free online dictionary “1. often Fascism
            a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
            b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.”

            While the U.S. isn’t there yet, you dolts are sure pushing it that way with belligerent nationalism, racism, homophobia, and idiocy. Currently, it appears to be controlled by the wealthy, not one dictator – although the last two Presidents ignoring the constitution, use of executive orders and signing statements, and refusal to perform the duties of their office are setting precedents
            accumulating the powers of a dictator.

            Islam is a religion, not a system of government.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Religious Fascism then. But Islam IS Fascism.
            Racism, homophobia,idiocy topped off with misogyny are key features of Islamist dominated dictatorships.

            See Syria, Saudi Arabia, Islamic Republics of Pakistan and Iran, Egypt, Afghanistan and so on.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “Islam is a religion, not a system of government.”

            Not according to the Islamic Republics of Pakistan and Iran.

          • Scotty44

            Wrong again. The constitution of Pakistan declares Islam to be the states religion, not its system of government. Iran’s is a mixed bag with the religious leader being the supreme leader of the government. Still, it seems the running of the country is left to the government for the most part. If Islam was the system of government, it would be running the state, instead of leaving such to the separate government structure, and just retaining veto power.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            What about the fascist Islamic Republic of Iran?

            The latest head of the Islamic Republic is Rohamei a Muslim cleric.

            Is Islam just the religion of Iran or its religious and political system?

          • Scotty44

            I will ignore the fascist label, since you have established no basis for it. Since Iran has elections selecting the President and Parliament, that run the government, the political system doesn’t appear to be involved in their religion, but in their government. Wikipedia: “Unlike the executive in other countries, the President of Iran does not have full control over Iran’s foreign policy, the armed forces, or nuclear policy, as these are ultimately under the control of the Supreme Leader.” Apparently, the Supreme Leader can exert authority in those areas, if he wants, but not legally the internal affairs of the country. Normal governmental powers are divided between a democracy, and a theocracy, a mixed bag as I said before. It would be interesting to see what would happen if the government refused to pay for troop use ordered by the Supreme leader. Regardless, the political system has no impact on Islam and Iran’s constitution gives the religion no control over the political system. Thus, Islam is not its political system.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            What a load of crap. The fascist Islamic Republic of Iran is based on Shia Islam. A thuggish form of Islam. Elections are as “free” as those in any other fascist totalitarian dictatorship. Opponents are shot in the streets. Police dress in civilian clothing, ride motorcycles and club the opposition. Religious police enforce dress codes for women and stone women to death. Gay teens are executed by the government. Islamist ideology is the basis of the political system. Fascist Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. Fascist Iran had an 8 year war with Iraq – 1,000,000 people died.

            The Shah was a saint compared to the ayatollahs who have make Iran a fascist dictatorship.

          • Scotty44

            I don’t know the accuracy of your statements. Do you? Are government has been putting out a lot of propaganda about Iran. Have you sorted out the reality? And what should we do about its internal affairs? Other than for humanitarian reasons, is it any of our business? And our country does very little for humanitarian reasons.

            By the way, you still haven’t shown any basis for your fascism label. Its form of government is not a dictatorship, despite how linked the various divisions of it are, or how much the government follows the leading of its Islam religion.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Riot police with red motorcycle attack people (shots fired?) – Iran Tehran 23 Nov 2009

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZgPX7ECYl0

            He won’t be riding again… Iranian People Fight Back, Swarm Motorcy

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9iINr5jAL8

            DEATH to the Fascist Islamic Republic of Ira!

            LONG LIVE PERSIA!

          • defcon 4

            Tell it the Persian Zoroastrians (if there are any left), or the Persian Baha’i, or Persian Jews. Tell them that Iran isn’t a theocratic, totalitarian, islam0fascist state.

          • defcon 4

            The religious police in Iran enforce islamic values on EVERYONE.

          • defcon 4

            Criticising islam is a crime in the holey “republic” of Pakistain. The penalty for blasphemy in Pakistain is life imprisonment or DEATH.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Your family roots are probably in Europe – so if you are are against occupation, leave the Native American land of North America. Return to your familial home.

            No Double Standards comrade.

            Considering your fascist socialist pedigree, Eurabia will welcome you with open arms.

          • Scotty44

            Got some native American in me. Guess I’ll just have to stay here. You’re just showing your delusions, fantasizing I support fascism, or socialism.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “Got some native American in me.”

            The only way that could be true would be if you engaged in cannibalism like the Islamist savage who actually ate the heart of a Syrian soldier.

          • Scotty44

            I see. You haven’t heard of genes, and I’m not referring to the kind one might ware.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “ware”?

            I see your Mad Cow is kicking in.

          • defcon 4

            You mean right now? While you’re typing?

          • Omar

            And do you think Saddam’s illegal invasion of Kuwait over 2 decades ago was justified? How about Saddam’s regime using poison gas against Iraq’s Kurdish population a quarter-century ago? Was that justified too? Spain during the Spanish American War was an absolute monarchy. Why don’t you talk about how infamous Spanish general Valeriano Weyler tried to exterminate the Cuban people during the 1890s? Do you know who fought under the command of Valeriano Weyler? It was Angel Castro, the father of Cuban Communist totalitarian thugs, Fidel and Raul Castro, who happen to be brothers. You are a Stalinist/Maoist troll who repeats Communist propaganda and who supports Communist atrocities committed around the world. Stop repeating and propaganda and learn from facts.

          • Scotty44

            War isn’t justified. Saddam was provoked by Kuwait slant drilling into Iraqi oil fields, or so he thought. The U.S. diplomat to Iraq, April Glaspie, told Saddam “We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America.” If we didn’t accept Saddam using chemical weapons, why did we sell them to him? What do your other fantacies have to do with America’s behavior? By resorting to red herrings and fantacy, you show that you have lost the argument.

          • Omar

            You are repeating Communist lies and propaganda used by the Soviet Union against the United States. First of all, Kuwait did not provoke Saddam’s Iraq. It was the other way around. Saddam wanted to drill and steal oil from Kuwait. When Kuwait tried to rightfully take the oil back to its people and businesses, Saddam responded by launching a military invasion and occupation of Kuwait. Obviously the U.S. diplomat in Baghdad was going to tell the Iraqi dictator that they wouldn’t interfere with the Kuwait issue, because if she or any of her fellow diplomats had protested the illegal invasion and occupation, they would have been expelled from Iraq. As for chemical weapons, Saddam’s Iraq mainly received them from the Soviet Union, Communist China and their puppet state, Syria. That is undeniable.

          • Scotty44

            Looks like you’re living in Denial, rather than reality. Wikipedia doesn’t agree with you at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Kuwait

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

          • Omar

            You are using Wikipedia as your main source of promitng Communist propaganda? Wikipedia is dominated by leftists like you. David Swindle wrote two articles from 2011 that explain how leftists have taken over Wikipedia.

          • Scotty44

            Started to read David Swindle’s articles, but found his methodology flawed. He based his argument on word counts, as if presenting a proof of a position can be done in a similar number of words for every position. That is a silly methodology. Some things just need more elaboration than others.

          • defcon 4

            It’s not only dominated by leftists. Muslimes have whitewashed anything dealing w/islam0nazi atrocities on wikipedia.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Red Herrings?

            That is a socialist tactic.

            Blame America. Never Russia/China/Socialism/Communism.

            Blame America and the West for the Berlin Wall?

            Blame America and the West for the Iron Curtain behind which Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Rumania were imprisoned under Socialist dictatorships?

            Blame America for the 54 year Castro family Socialist dictatorship? The transition of power from Fidel to Raul – keeping it in the family – like the Assad regime or the Kim family?

          • Scotty44

            Are you calling Omar a socialist? I would have never have guessed that was his preferred economic system.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM
          • ziggy zoggy

            Everything you posted is false and ridiculous.

          • Scotty44

            Frustrated?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Happy Eternal Nakba!

          • ziggy zoggy

            I get laid several times a day. Only liars like you feel frustration. Sorry you have a tiny pecker.

          • defcon 4

            Hit up some muslime women, be sure to make sure muslime men know about it!

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        100,000+ dead in Syria, 1,000+ dead by poison gas.

        The lack of outrage by REGRESSIVE “progressives” says a lot about the FAKE anti-war movement.

        • Jonathan Hinkle

          Can’t speak for the rest of the “regressive” progressives, but for me at least, I don’t see it as remotely clear that the US intervening in Syria would cause fewer people to die. It’s not liked when the US entered Iraq, suddenly Iraqis stopped dying. Why would we expect to have any more success in building a stable country in Syria?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Let the UN intervene – using Euro troops.

            The problem with Syria and with other Muslim majority entities (Egypt, Libya, Islamofascist regimes of iran and Pakistan) is Islamofascism.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Nobody wrote anything about America cleaning up the islamopithecine mess in Syria.

            What was written is that regressives don’t protest the violence there because they are anti-American frauds who don’t give a $hit about violence and murder. Any armed conflict is just spiffy unless America is involved. If America is involved you murder happy freaks cheer on the monsters and decry American benevolence.

            I know that all trolls are brain dead but you are particularly stupid.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Hence the absence of protests across the street from Syrian embassies/consulates/missions here or in Eurabia.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Johnny Hinkle is waiting for the next Republican President before he protests any military action.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            At least Guantanamo is OPEN for business under Obama.

          • ziggy zoggy

            For now. Obviously Obamahdi is afraid to close it.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I wonder if Obama would open Guantanamo and release the inmates, on “compassionate” grounds, as the compromised UK did with the convicted bomber of Pan Am 103.

            I hope not.

          • Drakken

            I would much rather feed the jihadist there to the hammerhead sharks.

          • Drakken

            I am happy that America is sitting the Syrian fiasco out, sit back, relax, enjoy a drink or two as a bunch of islamaniacs slaughter each other.

          • defcon 4

            I often wish the Iran-Iraq war was still going on.

        • nibs

          most of those Syrian dead are government forces fighting an Al Qaeda insurrection.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The documented cannibalism, organ harvesting by “the rebels” is horrific – and minimized by regressive “progressives”.

      • JM1001

        If Greenwald is primarily concerned with violence perpetrated by the United States, then that only reinforces defcon’s point: Greenwald should speak just as forcefully against the persecution and murder of Christians as he does of Muslims. The former is no less the result of American foreign policy:

        http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/asia/item/10970-christian-massacres-a-result-of-us-foreign-policy

      • Jakareh

        Both of those premises are false. The U.S. is not responsible for most terror throughout the world, not by a long shot, and he could just as easily do something about Islamic terror, i.e. speaking out in favor of refugee status for Middle Eastern Christians, of the Israeli security fence, and of eliminating terrorist leaders by drone attacks.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          But that would be “counter revolutionary” to oppose his comrades in the islamofascist ummah.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Islamopithecines commit more violence and terrorism in one afternoon than America ever could if it lasted a hundred million years. You are a hateful lunatic and a pi$$ poor liar. Only a brainless imbecile would quote Noam Chomsky as anything other than a completely unreliable and insane s source.

        When your nurses come back to tighten your straitjavket

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Socialism is a mental disorder. That’s why they support islamofascists who hate the sin AND the sinner.

          Witness glenn greenwald.

        • Jonathan Hinkle

          What statement did I make in my comment that can possibly be construed as a lie or evidence of insanity? I merely pointed you to what Glenn Greenwald has said on the criticism of him that you raised. I didn’t even state a single opinion of mine in that comment.

          To use as example a hopefully less-fraught issue: There’s a difference between my saying “I strongly disapprove of birth control” and saying “the Catholic Church strongly disapproves of birth control”. One is an opinion, and the other is a fact about some other idiot’s opinion.

          I stated a fact about someone else’s opinion, an opinion which he wrote about extensively in his column at the Guardian. Don’t attack me for it.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Der Guardian is an ultra leftwing rag – and a perfect platform for a regressive “progressive”.

            I suggest a BDS of any advertiser in that rag.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            “ultra leftwing”
            lol

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “progressive”.
            LOL!

          • ziggy zoggy

            Oh. Sorry. Super dooper extra whacko dip$hit insane uber ultra leftwing.

            Happy now, trolltard?

          • Jakareh

            Actually, if you say, “I strongly disapprove of birth control,” that is very much a fact, one about your personal beliefs. The only way it wouldn’t be a fact is if you were lying. Now, if you said, “Birth control is evil,” that would be an opinion. You’re welcome for the lesson.

          • Jonathan Hinkle

            Fair.

            So what’s the false “fact” I stated above that led you to call me a liar in the first place?

          • ziggy zoggy

            He wrote that you are stupid and evil, just like your failed idol, Chomsky.

            Are you even capable of critical thought or basic logic? Even for a lying, left-wing troll you’re particularly demented.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            socialism destroys empathy and morality.

            Hence the Red/Green Axis of Evil. A modern variation on the Socialist hitler / Socialist Stalin pact of 1939.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

          • Mona Holland

            You are wrong. To say “I strongly disapprove of birth control” is an opinion about the morality of using birth control. That someone can be demonstrated to hold that view is a fact, but the opinion itslef is not a fact.

            Mr. Hinkle thinks quite logically and argues calmly. But there is a “pearls before swine” problem in his doing so here.

          • Jakareh

            You don’t understand language.

          • truebearing

            That was the dumbest thing I’ve read all day, and considering some of the stupidity presented here today by your fellow mutants, that is really saying something.

          • ziggy zoggy

            America is a country that commits more atrocities than Al Qaeda and Islam? Americans are more qualified to whine about fictional American crimes than the real and undeniable atrocities of islam?

            You are a hateful lunatic. Up your meds, nut bar.

          • defcon 4

            The “Guardian” oh what a marvel of yellow journalism.

      • Omar

        But Chomsky is a Communist/ Islamist puppet who supports dictators who share his lunatic ideology.

  • Robert Kessler

    Stockholm Syndrome.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Exactly. A homosexual who doesn’t know how the Muslim Brotherhood, Sharia view homosexuality has his head in the sand or up his amigos butt.

      • Drakken

        It would be rather fun to watch Greenwald fed to the islamaniacs for shi*s and grins, now that would be some reality TV I could watch.

        • defcon 4

          Maybe he could hold a gay pride parade in Tehran, Mogadishu, Islamabad, Karachi, Ankara, Baghdad, Damascus or Gaza City. I’m sure CAIR would be a willing partner (and co-sponsor) to such a venture.

  • Elizabeth capecod

    While Greenwald is hating Israel and America, he should rethink his support of the one group that would sooner cut his head off with a dull butter knife simply because he’s gay.

    • Drakken

      Let Darwin have his due.

  • Jakareh

    America is in mortal danger—in fact, so is all of Western civilization. Extraordinary measures will have to be taken in order to guarantee for future generations the freedom and security we inherited from our parents and grandparents. One of these should be the use, at least on a temporary basis, of bills of attainder. And I can think of few more deserving than Glenn Greenwald.

    • Jonathan Hinkle

      Out of curiosity, how is it that you envision Western civilization falling? Are you picturing Muslim warriors marching through Arkansas, or what?

      • defcon 4

        Perhaps he refers to the imposition of Sharia law — the totalitarian, supremacist and fascist judicial system that is part and parcel of the islamic faith.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Islamofascist terrorists hijacking passenger planes and flying them into buildings, bombing public transport systems as on 7/7/05 London, the bombing of Pan Am 103, beheading of captives and posting the video of that horrific act, 100,000+ dead in Syria (1,000+ by poison gas – a WMD), sneaker bomber, underwear bomber, beheading of British soldier Lee Rigby, Boston Marathon bombing.

      • Jakareh

        If you don’t see the problems, my enumerating them won’t help you.

        • Jonathan Hinkle

          Possibly true, but the odds of my seeing the problems is even lower if you don’t enumerate them. Why even bother stating an opinion in the first place if you aren’t willing to expound on it when someone is curious?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            - 9/11 – passenger planes are hijacked, the hijackers lie to the passengers that as long as they don’t resist, they will be safe.

            We all know that was TAQIYYA.

          • Jakareh

            If you’re really “curious”, read every article ever posted on this site and jihadwatch.org

            I find you rather disingenuous, by the way. It’s neither endearing nor persuasive.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The Religion of Peace

            http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

          • Jonathan Hinkle

            I’m certainly not trying to be endearing. I’m trying not to be needlessly offensive either.

            The five most recent articles on Jihad Watch are about:
            • Pakistani schools banning “I am Malala”
            • Saudi nukes being “on order” from Pakistan
            • UK residents going to Syria to wage jihad
            • this article
            • Christians found dead in a well in Syria

            Certainly four of them are horrible things. (I’m not counting this article, because it is just someone talking about someone else, not news about something that’s actually happening. I think that’s fair.)

            But “horrible” doesn’t mean the same as “mortally threatening Western civilization”. Pakistani schools banning “I am Malala” is bad… for Pakistan. Hard to see how that affects the West. UK residents going to Syria to wage jihad is bad… for Syria. Ditto on affecting the West. Christians being found dead in Syria is bad… for Syrian Christians. Again, doesn’t have anything to do with the west. (Yes, I know Christianity is the main religion of the west. But this is local, middle eastern Christianity— old and original, not a Western import.)

            The story on Saudi nukes? Yes. If Saudi Arabia gets nukes, that’s indeed a danger. Not exclusively a danger to the West (nukes are danger to everyone), but probably mostly to the West. So that’s one for five by my counting.

            To summarize my argument here: Horrible things happen in the world. They’re truly horrible and I wish they didn’t, but most horrible things, whether done by Muslims or not, are not a threat to Western civilization.

            Western civilization is still trucking along just fine. We keep having elections, we keep putting America’s Next Top Model on for another season, we keep on cheering for our football teams, we keep on going to the grocery store, we keep on going to church on Sunday, we keep on going to work. Even when something as truly horrible as the 9/11 attacks happens: a civilization is -huge-, and it takes more than a few radical terrorists to put it in mortal danger.

            The number of people in the Muslim world with the means to affect the West? Pretty small. Most of them are just trying to put enough food on the table to feed their kids, not trying to figure out a new way to hijack an airplane thousands of miles away.

            Again, I’m not saying that there aren’t horrible Muslims who do horrible things. There are. I’m not saying that there aren’t horrible Muslims who are trying to make Western civilization crumble. There are. I’m not saying that jihad, murder, and terrorism aren’t horrible. They are. I’m just saying that Western civilization is not in mortal danger, and won’t be until the Muslim world either starts pointing nukes at us (which neither Pakistan nor Saudia Arabia, if they get them, would be particularly inclined to do) or actually invades the West.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            In the compromised UK, releasing the convicted bomber of Pan Am 103 is “compassionate” – especially when it’s grounded in the “compassion” for Libyan oil contracts.

          • defcon 4

            What do you think of outlawing criticism of islam as hate speech?
            You’re histrionic “mortal danger” screed might go over better if muslimes weren’t busily persecuting, murdering and raping people of other faiths all over the world, en mass, in the here and now.

          • Jakareh

            Are you not aware that if present demographic trends continue every country in western Europe will have a Muslim majority within a few decades? Or that America in this regard is where Europe was 20 or 30 years ago? Or are you aware of these facts but do not consider them to be a threat to Western civilization?

            The articles you are most in need of reading are precisely the ones about Muslim settlers in Western countries and their appalling behavior. I care very little about the internal workings of the Islamic world, as I have written off the entire region as lost to civilization (though my ethnic roots lie there).

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            There is a War brewing in Eurabia. The native population will reassert its values.

            Any Islamofascist who doesn’t like Europe can pack up and return to the Sharia Hell Holes they came from.

          • Drakken

            Keep living in your bubble and ignoring the danger on the doorstep, because it is too terrible to contemplate.

          • Drakken

            Open a bloody newspaper for Pete’s sake, you see islam at its finest.

      • Drakken

        Give islam an inch and they will take your arm.

    • nibs

      wow Jakareh, do you goose-step too by any chance ?

      • Jakareh

        Nah, I’m too tired from beating up random liberals.

        • NOTANEMOPROG

          *chuckle*

          You couldn’t beat your way out of a wet paper bag buddy.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Unlike you, who beats conservatives up and down.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Google Images “arab nazi salute”

    • NOTANEMOPROG

      LOL. You completely silly goon. You and your totalitarian ilk are a menace to Western civilization.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        “totalitarian ilk”? “menace to Western civlization”?

        Clearly you are talking about regressive “progressives”, al qada, muslim brotherhood, hamass, hezbullah, boko haram…

        • NOTANEMOPROG

          Yes. They indeed are a threat to Liberty. But so are totalitarians here in our Western world – mindless racists, bigoted xenophobes, racists and fascists and nazis – the enemy within.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “mindless racists, bigoted xenophobes, racists and fascists and nazis – the enemy within.”

            Muslim Brotherhood and company in a nutshell.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            No, they are the enemy without. You and folks like you – their mirror image – are the enemy within.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The enemy within.

            The Boston Marathon bomber brothers AND anyone who “friended” their Facebook page.

          • defcon 4

            CAIR is the enemy within dirtbag. They’re the organization trying to implement sharia law in the US.

          • Drakken

            Frankly speaking, progressives like you are beyond help and are nothing but future Darwin Award winners. Good riddance.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Islamofascists are the enemy within.

            See Fort Hood massacre, 9/11 hijackers, Times Square SUV bomber…

          • defcon 4

            No one’s a nazi here halfwit. But all muslimes are fascists, by the mere fact they subscribe to the fascist ideology known as islam. Don’t believe me? Then move to any islamic state.

          • ziggy zoggy

            The enemy within are leftists like you described.

        • Jakareh

          I’m “silly” because I think a pathologically conceited nitwit who aids and abets Muslim Brotherhood infiltrators should be punished for his treachery. Got it.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            “Got it.”

            Well, there’s a first time for everything.

          • defcon 4

            Got jihad?

      • defcon 4

        nah that’s islam. As is proven on any day of the week by the various atrocities committed by muslimes all over the world.

  • Mona Holland

    “the first time that Greenwald, who now lives in Brazil, will return to the United States since the NSA scandal broke. It is not surprising that a CAIR event would be the occasion for his return”

    The stuff at this site is usually fact-challenged, and here is but another example.

    Greenwald is not returning to the U.S. to address the CAIR event. He will be speaking by video, as he has done for U.S. events since last June.

  • Gee

    Where is this “persecution of Muslim Americans, and Muslims generally, in the post-9/11 era”? I have seen no sign of it.

    Oh wait it is that invented “Islamophobia” that the Islamofascists are whining about.

    How about the Muslim persecution of Jews in America? It is rampant and repulsive. They commit at least 50 times as many hate crimes against Jews as all the so-called ‘Islamophobic’ attacks against them

    • jimpower

      Um, maybe because you’re not a Muslim and are not on the receiving end of the flagrant and egregious racism that has permeated this country for the last decade + that equates ALL Muslims with the 9.11 attackers.

      • defcon 4

        Tell that to the people being persecuted in muslime states, all over the world, in the here and now. Tell it to the victims of islam0fascism.

      • noway2no

        What race is Islam?

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Islamism. The race of snakes, vultures and hyenas.

      • Jakareh

        Um, maybe because you’re a liberal, so you think the perpetrator is always the victim and vice-versa.

        • NOTANEMOPROG

          LOL. Such nonsense.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Nonsense? Those poor, misunderstood jihadis.

            Get them a Social Worker.

          • defcon 4

            And a tall, steaming mug of healthy, fresh camel urine!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            They should switch to decaffeinated camel urine.

          • defcon 4

            I wonder if camel urine is a popular muslime holiday beverage. In the same vein that egg nog is popular during Xmas time, maybe camel urine is popular during Eid or Ramadan.

          • Jakareh

            Okay, it’s nonsense to think Muslims perpetrated 9/11. In fact, they were the real victims. I don’t know how I didn’t see it before!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Or the Boston Marathon bombing, Pan Am 103 bombing, London transport bombings, video taped beheadings, Beslan school massacre, 100,000+ dead in Syria, Mumbai India attack, Nairobi Kenya mall attack, killings of Coptic Christians, Nigeria church bombings, 8 year Iraq/Iran war, interrupted sneaker bomber, interrupted underwear bomber…

          • defcon 4

            Or the Beltway Sniper slayings, or the Ft. Hood slayings, or the Colorado theater shooting (the perp later admitted he had converted to islam and that the shooting had been a part of his jihad) or the bombing of the Beirut USMC barracks, or the bombing of the USS Cole or the incineration of a trainload of Hindus by muslimes, or the 4 synagogues blown up by muslimes in the 21st century etc.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            “it’s nonsense to think Muslims perpetrated 9/11″

            It indeed is when “thought” by a delusional either-or totalitarian like you, who seems to think that “some” means “all”.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            As long as the majority of Muslims don’t fight al qada, but give it a safe haven (as OBL had in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan), there IS a problem with current day Islam and the useful idiots in the regressive “progressive” neo-commie left.

          • Jakareh

            Did you know that Muslim employees of the FBI passed out date-filled cookies to celebrate 9/11? And if they acted that way, I can’t imagine what Muslim didn’t. At a certain point, there is no practical difference between “some” and “all”.

          • defcon 4

            All muslime states illustrate that there is no difference, as all muslime states persecute people of other faiths, without exception.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Please provide a link.

          • Jakareh

            Sure, because you asked nicely:

            http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=14210

            Here’s more about the wonderful Muslim translators on whom the FBI relies, and from a liberal magazine no less:

            http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2005/09/edmonds200509

          • defcon 4

            Wow, I didn’t know this. You have to wonder what such FBI employees do w/their time, because I’d bet islam0fascist terrorism isn’t much of a concern for a muslime FBI employee — unless it’s facilitating it.

          • defcon 4

            Not all nazis committed the Holocaust, are they therefore “good” people?

      • truebearing

        Start your comments with “duh” instead of “um.” You’re not qualified to use “um.”

      • ziggy zoggy

        Islam explicitly and unequivocally demands all islamopithecines to wage jihad against the world until all the unbelievers are subjugated or dead. No ifs ands or buts. Jihad is the core tenet of islam, its main “pillar” and fundament. It’s all there in black and white for anybody to see. The unholy koran is considered the literal word of the moon god allah (and perversely, that of Satan) so everything written in it is supposed to be obeyed without question – on penalty of death. Any islamithecines who rejects jihad is an apostate – also marked for death.

        All islamopithecines ARE equal to the 911 terrorists. (Attackers, my @$$.) anybody who willfully practices islam accepts jihad. That is irrefutable.

        How many islamopithecines have been murdered by “Infidels” in America since 911? How many islamopithecines have murdered “Infidels?”

        That’s what I thought. You are a flagrant and egregious example of a quisling.

  • mattogilvie55

    The answer is very simple: Greenwald is a leftwinger; therefore, he hates America.

    • jimpower

      Unlike rightwingers who “love” America so much they want to secede from the union. Benedict Arnold would love today’s rightwinger

      • defcon 4

        What’s there to love about an America run by islamofacists and their collaborators? An America that funds, trains and equips islam0fascist terror groups? An America that funds islamofascist states?

      • mattogilvie55

        No we don’t, liar. You should be repeatedly stomped for telling those lies.

  • m4253y

    What is there to be surprised by that a Jewish, leftist homosexual ideologue would be bent at the knee to the muslimes and for islime?

    nothing new, move along.

    • NOTANEMOPROG

      What a load of utterly laughable codswallop.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        NUTINANEREG – you ARE a regressive “progressive”.

      • m4253y

        LMFAO @ U. are you serous?

        let’s review the FACTS, SHALL WE?

        1. He is Jewish. Correct?

        2. He is a homosexual. Correct?

        3. He is a guest speaker for CAIRs “Faith in Freedom” dinner on November 16. Correct?

        NOW, WTF DID I MISSTATE?

        the only codswallop here is the overt blindness of the leftists’ exhibited by their gross avoidance of FACTS which exhibits their ignorance quite openly. a tact which you have exhibited to a tee Mr. Codswallop.

        I guess like your leader who resides in the White House, if you ignore the facts and feign ignorance enough, lies become truths and truths, well, they just disappear.

        Correct?

  • jimpower

    Thank god or allah or whatever nonexistent deity you worship that there are at a least a handful of people exposing our completely broken government where once you reach a certain political or economic level you literally cannot be jailed for any reason – including torture & murder.

    Thank you, Glenn Greenwald! Keep up the phenomenal work!

    • defcon 4

      Duh, Greenwald is now collaborating w/an islam0fascist organization devoted to overthrowing the US Constitution and replacing it w/Sharia law and you want me to celebrate the fact?

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Doesn’t glenn greenwald know that his lifestyle is anathema to Sharia Law?

        Those posted and demarcated Sharia Law enclaves in Britain should be a hint.

  • FreedomOfSpeechNeeded

    People who hate America are religious fanatics like Robert Spencer and right-wing Christians who put Israel before the interests of Americans.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      People who hate America are religious fanatics like CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood and left-wing atheists, regressive “progressives” who put every enemy of America before the interests of Americans.

      • FreedomOfSpeechNeeded

        Stop lying that you care for America.

        You only care for your religious fanaticism.

        You’re no patriot.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          I don’t support the muslim brotherhood, al qada, osama bin laden, boko haram.

          THOSE are your guys.

        • ziggy zoggy

          Sig Heil!

          • defcon 4

            In this day and age it’s probably more likely a chorus
            of allah ackbar.

    • ziggy zoggy

      How does Spencer hate America and how does he promote Israel’s interests before America’s?

      Skinhead lunatic.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        The skinheads married the ragheads and thats how CAIR was born.

        • defcon 4

          I can’t even remember the last time I’ve seen a skinhead on television much less in person. The last racist rant I heard in person came out of the mouth of an Arabic muslime, who decried miscegenation as well as Jews in a long 5 minute rant.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            James Carville. ;-)

          • defcon 4

            The racist rant w/bonus antisemitic content was something I heard from a muslime I knew.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Yeah, I think they have replaced the skinheads.

  • Caspin

    Your such a douche bag.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      If you are double jointed, you can tea bag yourself.

      Send the videos to glenn greenwald.

  • iroots.org activism

    Sure, Greenwald seems to be a leftist, but at least he isn’t another everything-the-feds-do-is-holy-if-it-seems-vaguely-militaristic-or-involves-spying neocon. Let’s not shoot the messenger. The level of NSA spying is completely incompatible with a free society that values individual liberty and understands human nature and the certainty of abuse of power.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Throw away your computer, cellphone and all tech toys.

      • NOTANEMOPROG

        No, we will not. We will not submit to the NSA state. What we will do instead, is rein in their cancerous surveillance.

        • NOTANEMOPROG

          LOL, to get a down-vote on this clear pro-Liberty statement on frontpagemag from one of the “Defenders of the West”, hilarious.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Down-Vote?

            Go cry to the UN Human Rights Council.

          • defcon 4

            I think for him the OIC would be more appropriate. Oops, but they’re actually one and the same!

          • ennis

            How will you react when you get 10 down-votes? Write a complaint to Frontpagemag?

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            10 people who support unconstitutional NSA overreach, I don’t think that’s possible even on here.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You couldn’t care less that Obama uses the NSA to spy on ordinary Americans. You’re upset because it also spies on jihadis.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Isn’t tech wonderful?

          What is cancerous is the islamofascist jihadis that have necessitated checkpoints at every airport in the world – to avoid another 9/11, Pan Am 103.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            “necessitated”

            Nonsense. What necessitated that is the toddler-like mindset of people like you who think that they can be kept 100% safe by their nanny state, and consequently surrendered their dignity and liberty for a mere promise of security.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Airport checkpoints work – and are “islamophobic” to morons like CAIR..

            Awww.

            What right did you have before 9/11 that you no longer have?

            Your “right” to hijack passenger planes and fly them into buildings?

          • defcon 4

            The 3000 people who died on 9-11 say differently dirtbag.

        • defcon 4

          And impose sharia law.

    • NOTANEMOPROG

      He’s not a leftist. And even if he was, that fact shouldn’t lead anyone – anyone sane at least – to reject his writing on Liberty. Because sane, rational people weigh arguments, not personalities who put them forward.

      Otherwise you are completely right – NSA overreach is unacceptable, and Greenwald’s journalism on NSA since June was hugely important in what all of us who care about liberty hope will be a significant legislative reining in of the cancerous surveillance state.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        How is Islamism “Liberty”?

        What is “sane” about ignoring “Inconvenient truths” about Islamism? That is not reporting. It’s propaganda.

        • NOTANEMOPROG

          He is not a reporter. He is an openly opinionated journalist. And he is not hiding his world-view.

          And even if he “ignored” Islamism (he doesn’t – he just doesn’t feel the need to preface every single utterance with a three-paragraph long denunciation of everything that is wrong in extreme Islam and all the misery it brings to the world), that STILL wouldn’t take anything away from what he argues about the sad state of Liberty in Western world today.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            In case you didn’t notice, your Arab/Islamofascist pals are at War with the entire World.

            Something about defending the fatwas of the prophet of Satan, muhammed.

            Where does glenn greenwald criticize the actions of the Muslim Brotherhood? If he did would he jeopardize his invite to speak to CAIR?

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            You clearly did not read what I wrote.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You clearly are insane.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Only a filth diving scumbag decries the NSA surveillance of islamopithecines and promotes Islam through organizations such as CAIR.

            Gaywald doesn’t admit his support for islam. He is a stealth “journalist” who hates America and humanity with the undying passion that only a lunatic lefty could feel.

          • defcon 4

            He’s speaking at an engagement hosted by an islam0fascist organization.

      • gritosdelcongo

        ‘there really is no organization with which I’d rather be spending my time, or with which I feel more at home than CAIR’ … how can any intelligent person defend that statement?

        • NOTANEMOPROG

          Irrelevant. His arguments are what matters, not his feelings.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            His arguments are just as regressive as his “feelings”.

          • ziggy zoggy

            That is his argument, you fucking imbecile. He loves CAIR. there is no defense for that.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            woof

          • defcon 4

            You make a better pig than a noble canine.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            sit boy.

      • Smoking Hamster

        Greenwald goes and delivers speeches at socialist conferences… True liberty loving people attempt to expose and counter socialist groups, not join them.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          socialists and islamofascists are allies – because they both share the same hatred – ignoring the elephant in the room that they too hate each other but are willing to postpone that inconvenient truth until later.

          Hence the Red/Green Axis of EVIL.

        • NOTANEMOPROG

          He talks to a wide variety of groups. He did not join any as far as I’m aware.

          He is a true liberty loving person. You do not have to agree with someone’s every last idea to agree on that.

          And to think that he is a socialist is, frankly, insane.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Let him test the “liberty loving” of the Muslim Brotherhood by putting his alternate lifestyle on display for CAIR.

            Let’s see how things work out.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Smoking Hamster has documented Gaywald’s socialism in his comment above.

            Now, who is insane?

        • Jonathan Hinkle

          He’s also spoken at the CATO Institute, which is about as far from “socialist” as you can get.

          • Smoking Hamster

            Here is an express rebuttal of him of that lie.

            Here are the political views he has expressed.

            * opposing all cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid (here and here);

            * repeatedly calling for the prosecution of Wall Street (here, here and here);

            * advocating for robust public financing to eliminate the domination by the rich in political campaigns, writing: “corporate influence over our political process is easily one of the top sicknesses afflicting our political culture” (here and here);

            * condemning income and wealth inequality as the by-product of corruption (here and here);

            * attacking oligarchs – led by the Koch Brothers – for self-pitying complaints about the government and criticizing policies that favor the rich at the expense of ordinary Americans (here);

            * arguing in favor of a public option for health care reform (repeatedly);

            * criticizing the appointment of too many Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street officials to positions of power (here, here and here);

            * repeatedly condemning the influence of corporate factions in public policy making (here and here);

            * using my blog to raise substantial money for the campaigns of Russ Feingold and left-wing/anti-war Democrats Normon Solomon, Franke Wilmer and Cecil Bothwell, and defending Dennis Kucinich from Democratic Party attacks;

            * co-founding a new group along with Daniel Ellsberg, Laura Poitras, John Cusack, Xeni Jardim [sic], JP Barlow and others to protect press freedom and independent journalism (see the New York Times report on this here);

            * co-founding and working extensively on a PAC to work with labor unions and liberal advocacy groups to recruit progressive primary challengers to conservative Democratic incumbents (see the New York Times report on this here);”

            “[The lie]I work/worked for the Cato Institute

            I am not now, nor have I ever been, employed by the Cato Institute. Nor have I ever been affiliated with the Cato Institute in any way. The McCarthyite tone of the denials is appropriate given the McCarthyite nature of the lie.

            In seven-plus years of political writing, I have written a grand total of twice for Cato: the first was a 2009 report on the success of drug decriminalization in Portugal, and the second was a 2010 online debate in which I argued against former Bush officials about the evils of the surveillance state.”

            http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/30/1182442/-Glenn-Greenwald-Responds-to-Widespread-Lies-About-Him-on-Cato-Iraq-War-and-more

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            The post you replied to did not state that Greenwald worked for CATO, only that he spoke there. Which was my point too, man speaks at different venues. That doesn’t mean he automatically subscribes to those venues’ world-views.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Gaywald claims to subscribe to socialism and CAIRs goal. (Jihad.) Are you saying he is a liar?

          • defcon 4

            LOL, so if he spoke at a National Socialist Party venue you would be fine with that. I’m sorry but his voluntary association w/an islam0fascist organization indicts him.

          • defcon 4

            So what? Now he’s speaking on behalf of an islam0fascist organization.

      • ziggy zoggy

        What exactly, is Gaywald to the right of? Supporting the islamic supremacism of CAIR is as left-wing as it gets.

        Maybe you could cite a single centrist or non-lefty opinion that whack job has ever expressed?

        No? Stfu then.

    • defcon 4

      Um, CAIR is an organization devoted to overthrowing the US Constitution and installing Sharia law.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      We’re not shooting the messenger because we don’t like that message. We’re “shooting” him for his traitorous positions.

  • FreedomOfSpeechNeeded

    Robert Spencer believes Biblical Law should take precedent over the Constitution.

    Robert Spencer is no patriot – he is a religious zealot who worships Israel because he believes God gave it to them.

    America doesn’t need people like Robert Spencer who will take it back to the Dark Ages – send Spencer to Israel and protect the Constitution by holding those who spy on us illegally accountable.

    • Jakareh

      “Robert Spencer believes Biblical Law should take precedent over the Constitution.”

      Lie, pure and simple. But replace “Biblical” with “Quranic” and “Robert Spencer” with “Glenn Greenwald’s CAIR buddies” and it’s an undeniably true statement.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        That’s whats called “some inconvenient truths” for regressive “progressives”.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Your comment reveals the self denial regressive “progressives” suffer from.

      You don’t see the self proclaimed “Islamic Republics” of iran and pakistan.
      You don’t see the misogyny – the honor killings.
      You don’t see the behadings
      You don’t see the fatwas against writers like Salman Rushdie.
      You don’t see the executions of gay teens in the “Islamic Republic” of iran.
      You don’t see the murders of Brits in Britain by “asians”.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “Robert Spencer believes Biblical Law should take precedent over the Constitution.”

      Really? Sounds like a flawed assumption on your part.

  • Bill Hicks

    Jamie Glazov is a right wing goon, nothing more. His bizarre and outdated agenda is clear with book titles like “The Hate America Left” and “United in Hate: The Left’s Romance with Tyranny and Terror”. The only people who take the Jamie Glazovs of the world seriously are people who think Bill Kristol is too liberal.

    Nothing to see here ….

    • Jakareh

      Translation: If you see liberals and Muslims for what they really are, you’re a meanie!

    • SC

      You never heard of the Red/Green Axis of Evil.

      KGB Putins Russia backs the Assad family dictatorship. 100,000+ dead in Syria isn’t enough?

    • Omar

      And you are a left-wing goon who repeats Communist and Islamist totalitarian propaganda against the free world. Jamie Glazov is a respected author, while you are a Communist troll.

  • KarlD

    Dear Mr. Spencer,
    please get professional help before you harm yourself or persons around you. There is really no point it talking to someone so filled with hatred and grievance, and I feel defiled from finding myself on this site. You are exhibiting a clinical pathological sickness. When and if you expunge the bigotry from your system, I fear, however, there will be nothing left.
    Greenwald is the greatest journalist of his generation, and you are, … a blogger. Congratulations.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      “so filled with hatred and grievance” – and bigotry, misogyny, racism, fascism?

      The Arab/Muslim world in a nutshell.

      Google Images “arab nazi salute”.

    • ziggy zoggy

      “Greenfarb is the greatest journalist of his generation.” Yeah, and islam is a religion of peace.

      LOL!!!! Thanks for the humor, nut bar. Try not to swallow your tongue depressor.

  • NOTANEMOPROG

    “the far-Left journalist”

    You lost me there. Anyone capable of ejaculating a completely ludicrous howler like that isn’t worth my time.

    • defcon 4

      Is that how Jinns are born Usman?

  • J

    No, he doesn’t.

  • NOTANEMOPROG

    LOL. There’s some proper comedy to be enjoyed on this website from all the frothing-at-the-mouth supposed “defenders of Western civilization and its values” who advocate mindless hatred at the same time and see absolutely no contradiction in doing that.

    Must visit more often :)

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      These should tickle your funnybone.

      http://zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/

      It’s the Mohammed cartoon archive.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “True” Westerners love their enemies to the extent that they help them sign up for government entitlement payments.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Yeah, you are funny in a candy @$$ed kind of way. Islam good, the West bad.

      What a cretin.

    • defcon 4

      Funny thing Farshad, islam’s holey books are full of mindless hatred of Jews and unbelievers, but that doesn’t get your panties in a wad.

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    tired neocon accusations of
    self-hating and self-loathing

    let’s not forget to free Jahar
    Boston’s Big Bomber Event
    Muslim patsy

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Better a neo-con than a neo-commie.

      It’s the neo-commies who support islamofascism – because neo-commies consider the enemy of their enemy is their friend.

      Just like the national Socialist hitler / soviet Socialist pact of 1939.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

      • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

        Independents can easily see who thought the September 2001
        psyop and selling Islamophobia was a great idea; a great plan!

        we call it criminal mass-murder and war-profiteering

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Yeah. 9/11 never happened, the 7/7/05 London transport bombings never happened, 100,000+ people haven’t been killed in Syria (Arabs killing Arabs), the 8 year Iraq/Iran war never happened.

          • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

            play dumb all you want
            play stupid all you want

            twelve years of documented investigation evidence is now readily
            
available regarding the false September 11, 2001 official narrative

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Troofer,

            Are any of the identified 9/11 hijackers still alive?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You’re a MORON Paul fan too?

            What a surprise!

          • ziggy zoggy

            Is playing on a computer part of the therapy in your institution?

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Free jahar from the living.

      Islamofascism makes patsys of regressive “progressives” too.

  • fredbailey

    Fuck Glen Greenwald.

    • NOTANEMOPROG

      *Glenn

      • JCDavis

        He’s gone and fucked the wrong person.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          So too did edward snowden.

          One of these days snowden will be back in the US – and he’ll be wearing an orange jumpsuit.

    • Jakareh

      I’d rather see something he wouldn’t enjoy happen to him.

    • ziggy zoggy

      I think NOTANEMOPROG already did. Probably gave him a reach around, too.

  • JCDavis

    Greenwald is hardly far left, and he’s not coming back to the US to speak at this affair. Just because he’s the keynote speaker doesn’t mean he has to be there, though this somehow escapes the steel-trap that is Spencer’s brain. If he did come back he would be immediately arrested and locked up without charges, then tortured. This is the sort of America we’ve become.

    • Jakareh

      Spencer’s apparent mistake about Greenwald speaking to CAIR in person is immaterial. What matters is Greenwald’s support for a group of terrorist-linked Muslim infiltrators. And, yes, he is a far-left cockroach, specifically of the variety that hates America unconditionally, which is the most noxious species.

      • JCDavis

        If Greenwald hated America, he would let us collapse in our own police state cesspool. You don’t see people who actually hate America complaining about our government tearing up the constitution. On the other hand, many Americans seem to be natural fascists who despise the Constitution.

        • NOTANEMOPROG

          Exactly.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Exactly gay.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Sharia Law is codified Islamofascism.

          What is “progressive” about siding with regressive Islamism?

          • JCDavis

            It would be better if the US government did not do that, but unfortunately it does.

          • ziggy zoggy

            It would be better if you performed a retroactive abortion on yourself.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            You need to try anger management dude. You sound like you’re going to explode one of these days.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Anger management?

            Isn’t that’s off limits to islamofascists who are at War with people all over the world.

            The taliban dynamited the two 1,500 year old Buddahs of Bamiyan Afghanistan.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            Don’t you see that it’s crazy to counter my posts with lists of Islamist outrages, as if I supported them? You are all big-state totalitarian anti-liberty jihadists to me, just with different symbols tattooed on your foreheads.

          • defcon 4

            Islam is fascism — as is evidenced by every islamic state on the face of this earth.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            See the “Islamic Republic of Iran”.

            Islamofascist to the core.

          • ziggy zoggy

            CAIR wants to make America an islamic country and you are lying about its intention. You are an unhinged troll.

          • defcon 4

            I read China offered the Taliban millions of dollars to not blow up the statues and even offered to MOVE them out of Afghanistan.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            If what you say is true, where are your posts denouncing World Wide islamofascist attacks?

          • JCDavis

            What world wide islamofascist attacks? Oh, you mean the terrorism scam where we use terrorist tactics in a 3rd world country and they use terrorist tactics in response, and the American taxpayer is told to be frightened and charged trillions in protection. Yeah, that should stop.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Ever hear of 9/11?

            It was in all the newspapers.

            And the 1993 bombing of the WTC, 2005 bombing of London transport, Mumbai India attack, Nairobi Kenya attack, Bali bombing, interrupted sneaker bomber, interrupted underwear bomber, 100,000+ dead in Syria (Arabs killing Arabs), 8 year Iraq/Iran war, Iraqs invasion of Kuwait, beheading of British soldier Lee Rigby…

            Your ignorance is disingenuous.

          • JCDavis

            9/11, you mean that attack by the brother of Bush’s good friends the bin Ladens, who was miffed about our bases in his homeland? Not such a good example.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            A 9/11 Troofer!

            Wow!

            Which of the many 9/11 theories is the right one?

            Thermite? Termites? CGI? Alive hijackers?

          • JCDavis

            Bush: If you do business with terrorists, if you support or succor them, you will not do business with the United States.”

            But Bush did a lot of business with the bin Laden family. They invested in his oil business, even though he was a terrible oil man. Salem bin Laden, Osama’s brother, invested in Arbusto, Bush’s oil company. There were all sorts of shady deals going on with the bin Ladens and others, and Salem himself died in Texas in strange circumstances. But that didn’t stop Bush from telling America that we were attacked on 9/11 because they hate our freedoms, even while he and Cheney were ripping up our so called freedoms.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            GWB made the point that we are not at War with Islam, ignoring that Islam is at War with EVERYBODY.

            We are at War with Al Qada since 9/11.

            Now it takes a regressive “progressive” to side with Islamists.

          • JCDavis

            It’s all a scam for those who were born yesterday. As General Bill Odom said (he was the last NSA director who wasn’t a crook): “terrorism is not an enemy. It is a tactic. Because the United States itself has a long record of supporting terrorists and using terrorist tactics, the slogans of today’s war on terrorism merely makes the United States look hypocritical to the rest of the world.”

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Today it’s the regressive “progressives” who defend Islamofascism.

            See glenn greenwaldo.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Terrorism is a tactic. And Bush declared a “War on Terror” to avoid declaring a war on Islam.

            Again, if he’d been more honest about our enemies your criticism was still be just as absurd and polarized.

            “Because the United States itself has a long record of supporting terrorists and using terrorist tactics, the slogans of today’s war on terrorism merely makes the United States look hypocritical to the rest of the world.”

            Communicating nuanced and accurate messages to the world is not very easy. Simpletons like to look at flawed messaging and amplify importance in to creating something that it isn’t.

            Better to look like a hypocrite than a nation launching a “crusade.” There is no clean way to defend your nation against a complex network of enemies full of liars.

          • defcon 4

            CAIR has the same goals, but you have no problem with that.

          • Omar

            You are a Marxist troll who repeats Communist propaganda. Did you know that Communist Cuba and its colony, Chavista Venezuela (which I call the Cuban Raj) have supported and funded Communist terrorists like Carlos the Jackal who is also an Al-Qaeda sympathizer like much of the far-left. Quit repeating Communist propaganda and learn from facts.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “But Bush did a lot of business with the bin Laden family. They invested in his oil business, even though he was a terrible oil man.”

            Are you deranged? Do you know how big the family is? And OBL was stripped of Saudi citizenship long before 9/11/01. He wasn’t involved in the oil business and it’s not clear what if anything he had to do with his “legitimate” family.

            OTOH you’d no doubt object if Bush had severed the relationship with his family due to 9/11. You’d whine about blacklisting the poor noble savages.

            “But that didn’t stop Bush from telling America that we were attacked on 9/11 because they hate our freedoms, even while he and Cheney were ripping up the paper that guaranteed our freedoms.”

            You argue like a child.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “while he and Cheney were ripping up the paper that guaranteed our freedoms.”

            OK. Tell us which freedoms are now illegal????

          • JCDavis

            The NSA spy/blackmail machine was started by Cheney in his office. He told the NSA’s Hayden to forget about legal constraints, and thus we have what we have now, total surveillance. When a previous NSA director discovered what Hayen had done, he said Hayden should have been courtmartialed, and Bush should have been impeached.

          • http://web.elastic.org/~fche/ Frank Ch. Eigler

            “He told the NSA’s Hayden to forget about legal constraints,”

            (Do you happen to have a reference for that?)

          • JCDavis

            Angler: The Cheney Vice Presidency, chapter six.

          • http://web.elastic.org/~fche/ Frank Ch. Eigler

            (Sorry, I don’t have access to the whole book to check. But one quote about Hayden ignoring legal constraints occurs on page 142, and is hypothetical.)

          • defcon 4

            Yes termites. Termites planted no doubt by scheming zionists.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “9/11, you mean that attack by the brother of Bush’s good friends the bin Ladens, who was miffed about our bases in his homeland?”

            So you don’t want to be taken seriously. Got it.

          • ziggy zoggy

            America practices terrorism and islamopithecines attack people around the world in retaliation.

            You’re not only insane but hopelessly stupid.

          • defcon 4

            Sharia law is islam.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I think it has something to do with the koran.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            “I think”

            You really, really don’t.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Speak for yourself asswipe.

          • defcon 4

            R U confusing thinking w/lying again?

        • Jakareh

          If Greenwald thought the NSA was violating the Constitution, then he should just say so and be done with it. There is no possible justification for his association with CAIR, whose officials have explicitly stated they intend to replace the Constitution with the Shariah. Greenwald’s concern about the Constitution is selective, but his hate for America is consistent.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “CAIR, whose officials have explicitly stated they intend to replace the Constitution with the Shariah”

            G-d Forbid!

            Eternal Nakba for al qada and their neo-commie towel boyz.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            “CAIR, whose officials have explicitly stated they intend to replace the Constitution with the Shariah.”

            LOL

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The “Religion of Peace”.

            LOL

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            Yeah, cause you posting that makes the silly invention about CAIR true :)

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The “Religion of Peace” sure has a funny way of showing it.

            9/11, 1993 truck bombing of the WTC (the blind sheik who was the bombers spiritual leader is in Super Max), bombing of Pan Am 103, fatwa by the demonic ayatollah khomeni on writer Salman Rushdie, the murder of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh, the death threats on the Danish cartoonists…

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            Still waiting for that “CAIR 4 SHARIA” quote…

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Still waiting for CAIR to hold conferences where they denounce their coreligionists who have brought so much death and destruction to the entire world.

          • defcon 4

            The actions of CAIR are completely consistent w/having made the quote, as their actions are completely consistent w/Sharia law dolt.

          • defcon 4

            So you’re a CAIR member? Because your agitprop isn’t going to fly here.

          • Jakareh

            You really are stupid, not just uninformed, because if you weren’t you would have checked before exposed yourself for the idiot that you are.

            “Omar
            M. Ahmad, chairman of the board of the Council on American-Islamic
            relations, spoke before a packed crowd at the Flamingo Palace banquet
            hall on Peralta Boulevard, urging Muslims not to shirk their duty of
            sharing the Islamic faith with those who are “on the wrong side.”

            Muslim institutions, schools and economic power should be
            strengthened in America, he said. Those who stay in America should be
            “open to society without melting (into it),” keeping mosques open so
            anyone can come and learn about Islam, he said.

            “If you choose to live here (in America) … you have a responsibility to deliver the message of Islam,” he said.

            Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become
            dominant, he said. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be
            the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion
            on Earth, he said.
            Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2003/05/18561/#BLf5T6wZyJlYFeBx.99

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            LOL. Let’s see, three words you used

            “officials” – when in fact it’s _one person_’s remarks from 1998, not preserved on tape but only reported in a local newspaper, and strongly denied by the speaker

            https://web.archive.org/web/20030501212335/http://www.cair-net.org/asp/article.asp?id=1010&page=NR

            The reporter herself stated, “the statement in question is her paraphrase.”

            http://www.wnd.cm/2003/05/18561/#BLf5T6wZyJlYFeBx.99

            here: http://www.wnd.com/2006/12/39229/

            “explicitly” – I don’t think this word means what you think it means

            “Shariah” (in “intend to replace the Constitution with the Shariah” )- neither the word Shariah nor the word Constitution is used even in the “paraphrased” report, see here:

            http://frum.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjZiMTllM2M4ODcxYmE4OGZhZGVlMWY2MDU5OWMyNTE=

            You lose. Dummy.

          • Jakareh

            I knew that if only mentioned Ahmad’s comments, the first thing you’d say was, “It was only one person. You’re a meanie for saying CAIR is all like that. LOL.”

            Aside from the fact, Ahmad was the “chairman of the board of the Council on American-Islamic Relations”, he wasn’t the only one, so, yes, “officials”, bitch.

            Ibrahim Hooper (spokesperson and co-founder of CAIR): “I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future,” he told the Minneapolis Star Tribune in a 1993 interview.

            “Shariah” (in “intend to replace the Constitution with the Shariah” )-
            neither the word Shariah nor the word Constitution is used even in the
            “paraphrased” report

            This is typical dishonest liberal parsing. Saying the Quran should be the highest authority is exactly the same as saying the Shariah should replace the Constitution. There is no substantive difference at all.

            “explicitly” – I don’t think this word means what you think it means
            Okay, I’ll bite. What do you think I think it means?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            If someone says the Bible should be the highest authority in the US – howls and shrieks from regressive “progressives”.

            When some savage says that the koran should be the highest authority in the land, SILENCE from regressive “progressives”.

          • defcon 4

            There is documented proof that the founders of CAIR have made such statements: http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

            Go fluff your goat.

          • defcon 4

            I’m glad you find it funny. Unfortunately the allegations are true and borne out by the actions of CAIR.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You probably do think an islamic America would be funny.

        • ziggy zoggy

          Greenwald hates that islam is not the religion of the land. He loves that the first and second amendments are under attack. He loves the Constitution about as much as a Brazilian spider monkey does. Which is more than you do.

          • JCDavis

            Greenwald is Jewish. And I’m all in favor of the Constitution, but it appears you are not.

          • ziggy zoggy

            I am not. So what, you racist piece of $hit?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I expect he puts his homosexuality above all.

            Let him put his homosexuality on display when he speaks to CAIR.

          • defcon 4

            I’d love to see Greenwald bring his boyfriend to the CAIR function. Maybe they could make a joint declaration of their love to the audience of islam0nazis.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Maybe a CAIR Imam can perform the marriage ceremony.

          • defcon 4

            Um, CAIR the organization Greenwald has no moral objection to, is trying to replace the US Constitution w/Sharia law.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            And Benedict Arnold was American.

          • JCDavis

            And Bush and Cheney were Americans too, and traitors, but that doesn’t change the fact that Greenwald was brought up Jewish and has no demonstrated love of Islam and has never expressed any interest in living under Islamic law. This assertion is the sort of ad hominem nonsense that gives the right a justified reputation for mud slinging.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            neo-commie greenwald, like any other regressive “progressive” sides with anyone who share the goal of destroying America.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            LOL!

    • ziggy zoggy

      And who exactly is far left? Nobody? Seriously. Marx and Engels were far to the right of Greenwald.

      • JCDavis

        The far right media has so screwed up the definitions that it is impossible for them to say what is left and what is right, or up or down, for that matter.

        • ziggy zoggy

          Far right media?

          You are insane.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          The “far right media”, like glenn greenturd who sides with CAIR.

      • NOTANEMOPROG

        “Marx and Engels were far to the right of Greenwald”

        LOLLLLLL

        • ziggy zoggy

          Marx and Engels believed government should be limited.

          Ignoramus.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            “Marx and Engels believed government should be limited.”

            *chuckle*

          • ziggy zoggy

            Marx and Engels believed government should be limited……..to the elites. Some animals are more equal than others. They didn’t ally themselves with islamopithecines against their own country like Gaywald has.

            Gaywald is as far left as it gets, and you are a nut job.

    • defcon 4

      So is the islam0fascist organization Greenwald is speaking at far right or far left?

      • JCDavis

        It’s a wonder that you can find your computer in the morning.

  • billy_bob_tweed

    Glenn Greenwald hates America so much that he’s willing to do everything he can to uphold, defend and protect the Bill of Rights and Constitution. A _real_ certifiable whack-job HATER.

    • ziggy zoggy

      How do you uphold the Bill of Rights by promoting Islam?

      You mother fucking idiot.

      • NOTANEMOPROG

        LOL. Greenwald promoting Islam, that’s hilarious :)

        Where do they get bozos like you?

        • ziggy zoggy

          Where do they get @$$wipes like you? Which Islamic group that Greenwald promotes do you deny?

          Nothing. Nothing is dumber or more deceitful than a
          Leftist.

        • defcon 4

          He’s speaking for an islam0facist organization. An organization that goes out of its way to suppress any criticism of islam.

        • defcon 4

          Some people will do anything for a buck.

      • JCDavis

        Didn’t Bush and Obama bring Sharia law to one secular country after another? Doesn’t that seem to be US policy?

        • ziggy zoggy

          Iraq does not have sharia and Bush didn’t bring it.

          • JCDavis

            Before the war, Iraq was secular. After we spent $3.5 trillion, they have this in their constitution (2005)–

            Article 2:
            First: Islam is the official religion of the State and is the primary basis for legislation:

            A. No legislation may be enacted that contradicts the established laws of Islam

          • ziggy zoggy

            Iraq does not have sharia. Promoting Islam does not promote the Constitution.

            Greenwood is an anti-American scumbag and so are you.

          • JCDavis

            Is that the best you can do, these weak personal attacks?

          • ziggy zoggy

            Bush never imposed sharia on anybody, you clown.

          • defcon 4

            I’m certain Iraq does have Sharia. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Christians have fled Iraq due to it.

          • defcon 4

            So it’s the fault of the US that Iraqi muslimes enacted Sharia law in Iraq? LOL. What’s your excuse for Soddy Barbaria?

          • JCDavis

            Yes, it’s our fault. We spent $3.5 trillion and killed hundreds of thousands and left millions in exile and gave them religious law and a country in continuous turmoil. Any country we don’t like will try to get nuclear weapons to protect themselves from our madness. (Like NK did.)

          • defcon 4

            Wrong, the vast majority of civilian deaths in Iraq were due to muslime on muslime violence, to say nothing of the piles of dead Christians.

          • JCDavis

            Bush attacked in a war of aggression. All the deaths are on his head. He is a mass murderer.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Bush overthrew a murderous tyrant. Every terrorist murder in Iraq is on islam. You are a lunatic.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Constitution and Bill of Rights Yes.

      Sharia Law NO!
      Socialism NO!
      Islamofascism NO!
      Jihad NO!
      Plane hijacking NO!
      Islamofascist capital punishment NO!

      • Tim Seaver

        ^^^^^^ Several Screws Missing ^^^^^

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Several Screws missing in regressive progressives.

        • defcon 4

          SO asshat, you’re saying you approve of Sharia law, jihad, islamofascism and plane hijacking?

    • Rob Hobart

      Get lost, Jew-hater.

    • defcon 4

      I’m sorry but speaking for an islam0fascist front group of the Muslime Brotherhood doesn’t qualify as protecting the “Bill of Rights and Constitution”.

  • billy_bob_tweed

    The mentality of the Israel-Firster is as ridiculous sounding as it is obvious looking. Gotta beef with Israel policies…? Ipso-facto, that makes you an anti-semite HATER of AMERICA.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      The mentality of the Islamofascism-Firster and their useful idiots in the Regressive “progressive” activist community is sickening.

      What is “progressive” about siding with people who stone women to death, shoot girls in the head for wanting an education (Malala), government execution of gay teens as in Fascist iran?

      • Drawler

        Ah yes, one must support the mass discrimination and killing of Muslims by Western governments or you’re a Sharia law apologist.

        Since you’re so fond of throwing the word Fascism around, perhaps you should examine its relationship to your own beliefs.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Mass discrimination and killing of Muslims BY Muslims is OK with you.

          To be a FASCIST you must be a SOCIALIST.

          That’s why your pals called themselves National SOCIALISTS.

          • Drawler

            No, I’m not ok with the mass discrimination and killing of Muslims by anyone.

            What’s so hard to understand about this ?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Okay. Where have you posted under “Drawler” and denounced al qada, the taliban, honor killings, stoning girls to death over family honor, shooting girls in the head for wanting an education.

            Silence is not a viable option.

          • Drawler

            Before we get to that, I need to see where you’ve written a long and exhaustive critique of the white supremacist movement in America and see your explicit condemnation of them.

            How else would I know you don’t tacitly support such things ?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            white supremacists who kill are executed in the US.

            brown supremacists who kill in the name of a “prophet” are lauded – and are claimed to be rewarded with 72 virgins in Islamofascist paradise.

            Now what about your posts under your nym where you excoriate islamists killing all over the world.

          • Drawler

            You still haven’t provided me any proof that you’ve condemned white supremacy, and in lieu of that the only thing I can do is assume that you are not opposed to it, right ?

          • Rob Hobart

            Ah yes, “condemn what I tell you to or you’re evil.” A standard dishonest Lefty trick. Go away, Fascist, we’re not playing your games.

          • Drawler

            …….

            That’s exactly what he is doing to me, and what I was satirizing

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Wah!

            It’s Islamophobic to oppose passenger plane hijacking, bus bombing, underground bombing, sharia law enclaves, placing bombs on passenger planes like Pan Am 103.

          • Drawler

            Huh, so you are familiar with sarcasm

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            It’s called reality.

            CAIR is ever ready to shriek ISLAMOPHOBIA when anyone criticizes a Muslim – especially one who kills.

          • Drawler

            I get the feeling I could type anything here and you’d bulldoze ahead with whatever you’d been thinking about, regardless of its relevance to what is being discussed at the moment.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Yeah. We don’t buy into your agitprop.

          • Drawler

            I don’t understand why someone would post in a politics forum if you want don’t want to engage with people. You could just camp out on a street corner and yell fascist at passerbys if that’s all you plan to do.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I don’t understand how “progressive” people could side with the most REGRESSIVE people on the planet today.

            What is “prorgressive” about stoning girls to death over “family honor” or islamic republic executing gay teens?

          • Drawler

            The most regressive people on the planet ? I don’t think you’re giving yourself enough credit here.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            REGRESSIVE as in stoning girls to death over “family honor”, shooting girls i the head for wanting an education, hanging gay teens, bombing passenger planes like Pan Am 103, dress code police for women.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Drooler,

            I don’t understand why Gaylords such as you support a religion that wants you dead.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            “We”

            Are you many in there, are you a Legion?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Arab Legion? Camel Corps?

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            No, more like Gospel of Mark, 5:9.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Are you a chomo?

          • ziggy zoggy

            I get the feeling you will try to disrupt an honest discussion with trollish idiocy.

            Gaywald loves terrorism and tossing salads. No wonder you’re such a big fan.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Huh, so you are familiar with misdirection.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Drooler,

            No, you were defending islamopithecine terrorists and pretending that Whites are racist. Trying too, anyway.

            The only satire is you trying to string a coherent sentence together.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I condemn white supremacy and socialism it its various forms.

            When are you going to condemn islamofascist supremacy?

            Or if you have, where????

          • Drawler

            I’m glad to see you condemn white supremacy, however I still don’t know what your position is on the Armenian Genocide. I wish we could debate the merits of what is going on in the Middle East like adults, but we must do this first, apparently.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Armenian Genocide? That’s the work of Erdogans people.

            Still waiting for your links to blogs where you have denounced world wide islamofascism.

          • Drawler

            You’re dodging the question, that you still haven’t commended the Armenian genocide speaks ill of you.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            Yes. He obviously supports it.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You obviously support Islamic barbarity and pedophilia. Don’t you, Spanky?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You’re still dodging the question.

            Which blogs have your posted your opposition to islamism, radical Islam, the taliban?

            Erdogan MUST acknowledge Turkeys responsibility for the Armenian genocide.

          • Drawler

            I can’t answer that question until we’ve cleared some things up with you.

            Between 1962 and 1963 the town of Salem Massachusetts held a series of trials which condemned 20 people to death by hanging for practicing witchcraft.

            Do you, SCREW SOCIALISM, approve of what happened there and do you believe witchcraft is real ?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            1962.

            LOL!

            Your islamofascist pals believe that witchcraft is real.

            http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islamic_Witch_Hunts

            Happy Eternal Nakba!

          • Drawler

            You’re deflecting the question, do you support what the Salem witch trials ? Do you belive in witchcraft ?

            Are you, SCREW SOCIALISM, a witch ?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Not me pal. The prophet of Satan, muhammed was a Witch.

          • Drawler

            Do you think if someone had thrown some water on Muhammad we could have avoided this whole war on terror thing ?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Better to throw pigs blood on muhammed than curse the darkness.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Do you think if I kicked you in the teeth that you would get lost? 3:)

          • defcon 4

            I believe you have been consorting w/Djinns. I believe you should turn yourself in to the religious police of Soddy Barbaria or Iran for proper punishment.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You’re avoiding the question, Drooler. Do you support boy buggery? Are you a pedophile? Is it possible to be a member of NAMBLA and CAIR at the same time?

          • defcon 4

            That was over a millenium ago. Soddy Barbaria executed a woman (for being a witch) and a man (for practicing sorcery) just last year dirtbag.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Drooler,

            Do you approve of Obama tweaking and Islamic “honor” killings? Do you approve of Greenwald joining CAIR against humanity?

          • defcon 4

            “commended the Armenian Genocide”? I’m sure muslimes do, I don’t know about the najjis kaffir though.

          • Omar

            The Islamo-fascists of the former Ottoman Empire were responsible for committing the Armenian genocide during World War II, since the Ottoman Islamists viewed the Armenians as “infidels”.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Drooler,

            You’re dodging the question: Are you a member of CAIR or just a Greenwald groupie? And how sick is it to be his groupie? Nasty.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Drooler,

            Why do you support a racist, “homophobic,” misogynist, supremacist hate group? Are you a member of CAIR?

          • defcon 4

            ALl we have to do is look at the celebrations held in Gaza for the released islam0nazi terrorists.

          • Rob Hobart

            Pathetic fool.

          • Drawler

            Nice 1

          • Rob Hobart

            Yes, I thought so.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Say Hi to OBL for me.

          • Drawler

            OBL is dead, so that wouldn’t be possible even if had I the inclination to speak to or pass a greeting to him.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            OBL is dead – no thanks to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which was a Safe Haven to the koran thumping War Criminal.

            You can thank US NAVY Seal Team 6 for that.

          • Drawler

            Neat story.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            How so?

            When was OBLs last video?

            Funny that the US treated your islamofascist pig OBL with more sensitivity than the Libyans treated Ghadaffis body.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You couldn’t say hi anyway. Not with a mouthful of Greenwad.

          • defcon 4

            One thing doesn’t have anything to do w/the other.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Drooler,

            Why do you hate White people, girls and soap?

          • ziggy zoggy

            Drooler,

            You obviously find common cause with islamopithecine pedophiles and murderers. Are you a convert or a left-wing fellow traveler? What is it that attracts you the most about islam? The firm young buttocks of little boys? Being allowed to murder your own mother for honor? Blowing up Jews to get into Heaven? The chance to fly a plane into an office building? Goat molestation? The delicious taste of camel urine? Growing a scraggly little beard so your mouth looks like a real vagina?

        • Rob Hobart

          There is no mass discrimination and no random killing of Muslims, just the opposite in fact.
          You’re a delusional crackpot.

          • Drawler
          • NOTANEMOPROG

            “NO FACTS PLEASE, WE’RE MINDLESS BIGOTS”

          • defcon 4

            Islam, like nazim, deserves nothing but contempt. DItto for practitioners of same and for practically the same reasons.

          • ziggy zoggy

            No lies please. Troll.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Hey…..did you know that your child molester, prophet pretender lil’ Mohammad is smoking a turd in HeII? 72 demons have been reaming him out for 1400 years or so. (Plss be upon him.) 3:)

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            ziggy zoggy AKBARggy!

        • ziggy zoggy

          Drooler,

          Projection is the sign of a sick mind……..and that of a liar. Sixty one innocent people have been murdered by islamopithecines in the last week. There have been no mass killing of islamopithecines by Western governments. Every islamopithecine killed by Western governments in the past had it coming – and then some.

          Islamopithecines are a protected species in America and Canada. They are allowed to run wild in Europe. Where is the “discrimination?”

          Wipe your chin.

    • Rob Hobart

      You ARE an anti-Semite.

  • Jakareh

    Glenn Greenwald hates America unconditionally.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      I’m glad he’s relocated to Brazil.

      He should terminate his American citizenship too.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        He should RENOUNCE his American citizenship too.

        Anyone who hates America is free to leave and renounce their American citizenship.

  • Tim Seaver

    The Onion called. They want to run this just as it is.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      CAIR just called for a Jihad against anyone who refuses to submit to Sharia Law. They claim it’s “islamophobic” -

      • Tim Seaver

        Don’t look now, but there’s a scary brown person under your bed.
        Drinking your milkshake.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Don’t look now but there is a scary brown person who thinks that shooting a girl in the head for wanting an education is just what “the prophet” wants.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai

        • Rob Hobart

          Straw man.

        • ziggy zoggy

          Tim Deciever,

          Don’t look now but islamopithecines have murdered sixty one innocent people in the last week……..that we know of.

          And you’re defending that. Scumbag.

    • Rob Hobart

      Non-responsive mockery is not an argument. Grow up.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Glen Greemwald called. He wants his panties back.

    • defcon 4

      The Ayatollah of the islamic “republic” of Iran called, he wants the author’s head.

  • Jakareh

    The black helicopter crowd has canonized Glenn Greenwald. There’s no persuading them that he’s anything other than an exemplary patriot and a saint.

  • Tim Seaver

    As if Glenn would dare step foot in the USA!

    Bob’s been smoking too much crack lately.

    • ziggy zoggy

      What’s wrong with the U.S.A? Not sharia compliant?

  • glpage

    Does Greenwald know how folks with his sexual proclivities fare in Islamic countries?

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      greenwald must be into S&M.

      Sharia and Murder.

    • Drawler

      He likely does, I’m just guessing he’s also opposed to blowing villages apart with hellfire missiles just because they’re Muslims.

      • Rob Hobart

        Since that has never happened, you can take your attempt at moral superiority and shove it up your posterior.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Is he opposed to murdering villagers with poison gas – a WMD – used by Arabs on Arabs. He’s rather sweep that under the carpet.

      • Drakken

        We sure are slipping, only drone strikes? We should be using B-52’s and a nice Arc-Light strike, that’ll fix them.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Drakken AKBARRRRRRRRR!!!!!

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        If hellfire missiles are being shot at villages just because there are Muslims there,

        then why aren’t hellfire missiles being fired at Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Egypt or mosques in the US and so on?

        Aren’t there Muslims there too?

        Your attempt to blame a retaliatory War on Islamofascist terrorism as a war on all Islam is TAQIYYA at its lowest.

  • Jude

    Clearly, Robert Spencer hates America, and peddles fear to advance his own career. Like those other war profiteers such as the NSA and GCHQ and defense contractors, they’re all milking that cash cow for all it’s worth: 9/11 is the gift that keeps on giving. Money money money money money. “The Terrrorists™ are coming, the Terrorists™ are coming! The Barbarians are at the gate!” Is it really the 21st century?

    • NOTANEMOPROG

      It’s always the same.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Wah! Wah!

        America Bad.

        Islamofascism and socialism Good.

        Blame GWB!

        • NOTANEMOPROG

          lolzer. You’re as mad as a hatter :)

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            You got your rag on too tight. It’s cutting off the blood flow to your damaged brain.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            No rags for me buddy. Only the most expensive, luxurious Islamofascist textiles are good enough.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            goat skins for you.

          • defcon 4

            And some islamic dancing boys, slaves and camel urine to round out the party right?

          • Drakken

            I think there is a goat calling your name.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Does your troll paymaster actually give you money to fail so badly?

            Maybe I should change careers. Nobody could be more incompetent than you. I could sleep through my job and still tear your doors off.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            ziggy zoggy LOLggy!

      • ziggy zoggy

        You’re always gay. You do know that your islamopithecine masters will kill you for that, right?

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Hey Jude, Don’t be a fool, Take a Nakba, and make it better.

      Remember the NSA is watching you right now.

      Tonight while you sleep the black helicopters will drop off a Navy Seal and implant an Android phone in your head.

    • defcon 4

      You could always FO to an islamic state and enjoy the freedoms and liberties not practiced in any of them.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Right. Spencer and Co. Hate America and you love it. Islamopithecines don’t spread filth and violence wherever they go. You don’t take it up the @$$ every chance you get.

      Righteeyo.

      • Jude

        You hate America. We know you hate “ret@rds,” we know you hate “leftards” and Democrats, we know you hate Amercian Muslims, we know you hate those who, as you say, “take it up the @$$.” You bragged about beating someone who was Muslim in your city. It seems to me you hate a great many Americans. A person couldn’t love America and hate most of the people in it.

        • NOTANEMOPROG

          He badly needs anger management. Sad really.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Jihad management.

        • defcon 4

          ANd muslimes demonstrably hate:
          Hindus
          Sikhs,
          Christians
          Jews,
          Buddhists
          Zoroastrians
          Atheists
          because they persecute all of them, in all of
          their various islam0nazi pig wallows.

        • Drakken

          Sounds like you need some self esteem counseling and maybe your mommy will give you a cookie and tell you how special you are.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            He’s a 19 year old retarded socialist college student. Or drop out.

        • ziggy zoggy

          I don’t hate gays. I’m glad you take it up the @$$. That way you can’t breed. And most Democrats are simply misguided. Anti-American leftists and islamopithecines do not comprise the majority in America.

          The majority of Americans self identify as traditional/conservative regardless of which political party they support. It is the turds like you who want to “fundamentally transform America” who are the misanthropes.

  • Jude

    America supported the Taliban in Afghanistan, supplied Osama bin Laden and his merry band of Saudia Arabian rebels with weapons and training; America supports Saudi Arabia (the largest exporter of jihad in the world, – just follow the money), it supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and it supports Al Qaeda in Syria. That should tell you everything you need to know about the *real world* that Greenwald is engaged in, not the fantasty world that the ideologus pedal to you because they think you’re stupid. Are you that stupid?

    • NOTANEMOPROG

      They really, really, REALLY are.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Do you have any inion that isn’t written down for you? Try not to fall off your short bus on the way to tard school.

        • defcon 4

          “tard school”? Or maybe his local mosque or madrassah, where the islamic “truth” about the najjis kaffir, the Great and Little Satans are dispensed by the shovelful.

    • JCDavis

      Just point America in the right direction and scream boogieman.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        “boogieman” like ISLAMOPHOBIA!

        • Jude

          So you admit you’re an Islamophobe? They say the first step on the road to recovery is admitting you’ve got a problem. Congratulations!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            I am an Islamofascsimphobe.

            That’s why every airport has checkpoints to screen passengers and cargo.

            Do you admit you are a fascist?

          • Jude

            Every airport has chckpoints because you identify yourself as an “Islamofascsimphobe” (sp)? You must have quite the reach.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Get your head out of your rear end.

            World wide Checkpoints at airports are necessary to prevent your pals from repeating 9/11.

            Are you a 9/11 Troofer too?

          • Jude

            Your pals over at PNAC wrote an open letter calling for a new “Pearl Harbor,” so they could push through the Patriot Act (which was written well in adavance of 9/11). 9/11 was a godsend for Rumsfeld et al, eh? I hear Cheney’s Halliburton (now based in Qatar) made quite a lot of money on the Iraq “reconstruction” after the US destroyed it. Never did find those WMDs, did you? “Mission Successful,” indeed. Bush did a really good job of flying out all the Bin Ladens in the USA on 9/12, despite the grounding of all commercial jets. (By the way, I’m curious: are you a real person, or one of those programs that Fox News designed to post propaganda?)

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Since the Patriot Act, what right do you no longer have???

            Are you a BSNBC, Pravda, All that Jazzera employee?

          • ziggy zoggy

            Bush did it? Seriously? Fox News is bad? I read idiotic comments like yours and assume they’re just DNC/Obamaton paste jobs but Maybe you really are as insane and idiotic as you claim.

            Does your doctor know you escaped from the rubber room?

          • defcon 4

            Fox News propagandists? LOL. BTW, who funds islam0fascist terrorism? Or do you think it’s a for profit business venture?

          • ziggy zoggy

            Judas,

            Islamopithecines are the only reason airports have checkpoints. Just like you are the only reason @$$ herpes are part of Obamacare.

            And your reach makes it to the next guy’s hairy sack.

          • Jude

            And your fascism radar must be broken, since you’ve failed to see the fascism that’s cropped up all around you. The fascists blamed Jews for everything; you blame their close cousins, Arabs. I’m sure you’d love to round them all up in the USA, wouldn’t you? Perhaps put them in a makeshift camp? Ostensibly, to find another country in the Middle East to take them all in. But if they don’t agree to take them, then perhaps you’ll come up with some kind of Final Solution, eh? Eh? Admit it.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Today your islamofascist pals, like their national Socialist fore bearers blame Jews for every imaginable evil.

            Google Images “arab n a z i slaute” to inform yourself.

            Sadly for islamofascists and their socialist allies, the Israelis are NOT the unarmed Jews of Khybar or WW2.

          • Jude

            Let’s just take one of your points. I’d like to de-code your hysterial rantings and try to understand it a bit better. “Islamofascists and their socialist allies.” I think we’d both agree that the origins of “Islamofascism” is Saudi Arabia? You know, that’s where Bin Laden and most of the 9/11 terrorists are from. Now, apparently, any ally who supports Saudi Arabia must be a “(national?) Socialist.” That’s what you said, not me. Well, we know who Saudi Arabia’s biggest ally is, don’t we? Say it, go ahead, you can say it. Work it out. Right. It’s the United States of America.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Obama may love the Saudis but America hates them.

            And you are an obvious Marxist.

          • Jude

            GW Bush loves Saudis. You know that, right? His father before him, and Reagan. They go way back.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Socialists love Islamist because they see Islamists as an ally in their war against Western Civilization.

            How can 1.4 billion Muslims think they will defeat 6 billion Infidels?

          • Jude

            You hate Western Civilization. You were just ragging on “socialist Europe” a few minutes a go. You rightwing nutsos are so inconsistent. By the way, if you think you are a “Westerner,” go ahead and spend some time in Western Europe and see how well you fit in, LOL. You’re as alien to Western Civilization as a Ubeki is, or a Tibetan yak herder.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Western Civilization is as repugnant to you as Islamist policeman seeing a girl not wearing a hijab.

          • Drakken

            Your mental gymnastics are absolutely stunning. Islam is against western civilization in case is has escaped your notice.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Socialism is uncivilized. It always leads to mass killing, gulags and dystopian societies. Between that and islam, Europe won’t be Western OR civilized for much longer.

          • defcon 4

            Or any lying islam0nazi ape.

          • defcon 4

            The nazis had a intimate relationship w/the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. There is some historical evidence to suggest the Grand Mufti lobbied the nazis to initiate the Final Solution.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Some people believe that business alliances can drive “moderation” and that civilizations can coexist.

            Yes, the Bushs are dupes. Reagan had bigger fish to fry. Which he did.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Bush and Reagan used the Saudis to keep the oil industry stable. They did not bow to that sweaty little potentate in Riyadh. They loved him about as much as the clap.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Do you admit that 9/11 was the act of 19 islamofascist terrorists, 15 of whom were from Saudi Arabia?

            Checking whether you are a 9/11 Troofer.

          • Drakken

            If you haven’t noticed living in Europe, it is infested with muslims from the ME and it is becoming a huge problem.

          • defcon 4

            Wrong, Iran has an equally perverse and evil brand of Islam that is at odds w/the Saudi brand of islamic barbarity.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “I’d like to de-code your hysterial rantings and try to understand it a bit better. “Islamofascists and their socialist allies.” I think we’d both agree that the origins of “Islamofascism” is Saudi Arabia? You know, that’s where Bin Laden and most of the 9/11 terrorists are from. Now, apparently, any ally who supports Saudi Arabia must be a “(national?) Socialist.””

            Because foreign policy decisions are no more complicated than any checkers game.

            But it is FDR that created the deal with Saudi Arabia. So…you’re an idiot.

          • filter

            Wrong, terrorism is not just from SA, boy you are very out of touch with reality.

          • ziggy zoggy

            WTF? The wogs don’t have enough countries already? They’re an endangered people somehow?

            And we all know you would love to see conservatives rounded up and consigned to gulags.

            You despicable piece of $hit, you.

          • Jude

            Au contraire. I think conservatives should have the run of the place. I’ll enjoy my life in socialist Europe with my free university education, free healthcare, delicious cuisine, higher quality of life, longer living standards. You can enjoy your American Dream/paradise, driving in your pick-up or SUV on highways as you admire the scenery of McDonalds and Burger Kings and KFCs and used car lots and Mobil gas stations and abandoned shopping malls. I’ll drink a toast to you as I’m enjoying a German or Belgian brew, looking at the wonderous medieval or gothic cathedral across the street.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Eurabia? You can have it. Sharia Law enclaves in the UK, beheading of British soldiers by converts to “the religion of peace”, “asiain” rape gangs, Londonistan, 7/7/05 bombing of London transport, bombing of Pan Am 103.

            You can have Eurabia. You deserve it. The collapsing EU. Bankrupt socialist states like Greece, Spain, Portugal. Rising fascism in Eurabia.

          • ziggy zoggy

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LOL!!!!! Socialist Eurabia is bankrupt and the old retirees who pay your welfare bills will all be dead soon.

            As I enjoy my mountain, desert and beach vistas, you will be fighting your neighbor for some stale schnitzel. And then the natives will choke out the islamopithecines they stupidly invited in.

            Not that I believe for a second that you’re a Eurotrash weenie. You’re just a pathetic lefty troll posing as something else. What a fucking scumbag you are.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            ziggy zoggy AKBARRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Drakken

            He is an leftist American living off his parents who are paying for his bills.

          • defcon 4

            Until the muzzies deem such cathedrals to be unislamic and have them destroyed. Muslimes have completely eradicated all traces of Buddhism in Afghanistan, which was once a more civilised, Buddhist and Hindu nation. There are muslimes who want Egypt’s pyramids and Sphinx destroyed because they are unislamic.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The reason the Sphinx is missing its nose is that Islamists lopped it off – no one/thing should not bow to their “god”.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “I think conservatives should have the run of the place. I’ll enjoy my life in socialist Europe with my free university education, free healthcare, delicious cuisine, higher quality of life, longer living standards.”

            Eventually your gravy train will run out of gravy. Enjoy the fruits of American technology while you can afford it. Sponge.

            “I’ll drink a toast to you as I’m enjoying a German or Belgian brew, looking at the wonderous medieval or gothic cathedral across the street.”

            You have no pride in yourself. That’s one reason you lunatics are so prone to socialism. You can’t do anything you can take pride in. Or did you help build that church? Maybe you can learn to brew your own beverages and take pride in that great achievement.

            Taking pride in living like a sponge is sad.

          • filter

            Better take a picture as you kids won’t be seeing it. Be just a pile of blown up bricks and dust…enjoy!!

          • Drakken

            Your defense of the muslims really does show where your loyalties lie, his does not bode well for you in the very near future.

          • defcon 4

            Um, most all muslime states in the Mid-East feature rabid antisemitic propaganda, which is natural because islam is an explicitly antisemitic ideology and all the holey books of islam feature it.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “The fascists blamed Jews for everything; you blame their close cousins, Arabs.”

            I see your point, since facts don’t matter.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Arabs are responsible for islam. Islam is responsible for the majority of human savagery. Blame is put on the guilty.

            Of course all rational and informed Americans want them out of our country.

          • ziggy zoggy

            “Islamophopia” is a leftard term used to demonize anybody who questions the sadistic death cult of islam. The supposed persecution of islamopithecines in the West is a BOOGIEMAN meant to scare ret@rds who hate their countries but love totalitarian governments.

            The real term is “islamopathy.”

          • Jude

            “Leftards” and “ret@ards,” eh? Nice to see that you’re above demonizing of others.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            Also don’t miss the hugely inventive usage of “pithecines” to insult an entire religion.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            The people who insult, bring shame and disrepute to an entire religion, Islam, are the devout, orthodox Islamists who are at War with the Entire World.

          • defcon 4

            There is no “good” islam.

          • Drakken

            Islam deserves to be vilified by its actions.

          • defcon 4

            Would that be in the same vein as islam referring to Jews as the descendants of apes and swine? Or as being “most despised” by allah?

          • ziggy zoggy

            Islam is irredeemably evil. It commands the subjugation and murder of all people on the planet. It’s not fond of women, gays or hygiene either.

            The question isn’t why I insult it. The question is why do you defend it?

          • defcon 4

            Double thumbs up ZZ!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “demonizing others”?

            As in Isloamofascists demonizing and killing Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Bahais, animists and the wrong kind of Muslim?

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            Yes, exactly like that. You’re finally getting it – you are their mirror image.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Correct. I DON’T demonize and kill Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Bahais, animists and the wrong kind of Muslim?

            Your islamofascist pals do that and more – like destroying Buddhist statues that existed for 1,500 years.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Whoa. How many people has he killed?

            Or is it “murder” to object to murder committed by “oppressed people?”

            Just like we’re committing “cultural genocide” when we hurt their religious feelings I guess.

          • defcon 4

            The islamic faith explicitly sacralizes Jew hatred, as well as anti-Christian bigotry.

          • ziggy zoggy

            I can’t demonize people who are already demonic. Leftists are scum who hate their own culture and fellow citizens. Islamopithecines are even worse.

          • filter

            Like saying that all Jews are apes and pigs?
            Now who does that….hm yes it’s the muslims.

          • defcon 4

            Muslimes do a lot more than “demonize” people of other faiths, they kill them en mass, on practically a weekly basis.

          • Drakken

            No such word, there is islamorealist.

          • defcon 4

            You’re not a naziphobe are you? After all, you shouldn’t demonize all nazis for the actions of a few.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Why would any sane person want to “recover” from Nazi-o-phobia or “Islam-o-phobia?”

          • filter

            Silly child look up the meaning of Phobia.

      • ziggy zoggy

        So CAIR is the right direction? And you love the genocidal, pedophiliac, misogynist, homophobic, slave loving cult of islam how much? And you hate America how much?

        Punk @$$ b!tch.

        • Jude

          Do you even know what CAIR is?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Try google.com

            I hear it’s very popular.

          • Jude

            It’s a civil rights organization.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “civil rights” to DENY others their Civil Rights.

          • Drakken

            CAIR is a muslim terrorist organization, not a so called civil rights organization, so glad we could get that cleared up for you.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “It’s an America civil rights organization.”

            It’s a Muslim Brotherhood front organization posing as an American civil rights organization. Few people believe that BS.

            “In fact, American congressmen of both parties have given speeches at CAIR events.”

            That’s comforting. Good thing they don’t need any votes or campaign contributions.

          • ziggy zoggy

            CAIR is an American civil rights organization? It’s a cultural jihad organization, as you know full well.

            But oh, American Congressmen have given speeches at CAIR events. In that case, I support the jihad! Lets blow up some Jews together! We can throw acid at girls wearing modern clothing and share a big mug of camel pee when we’re done. =D

            Idiot.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            CAIR is as much of a “civil rights organization” as the kkk is.

          • defcon 4

            Islamic “civil rights” come at the expense of everyone not a head banging muslime.

          • Jakareh

            I, too, always believe whatever Muslims say, notwithstanding mountains of contradictory evidence, because if I did not do so that would mean I am an Islamophobe.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Do you even know what taqiya is?

            Of course you do. I just beat one of your jihadi buddies into a pulp on Saturday.

            Stay out of my city.

          • Jude

            While you were beating someone for being a Muslim, were you wearing a brown shirt at the time? Just curious. Or perhaps a white robe and pointy hat?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            As opposed to what? Islamofascists beheading Infidels and posting the video on the Internet? Stoning girls to death over “family honor”?

            There’s nothing like improving ones “family honor” by murdering a female member of your family.

          • Jude

            The stoning of women goes on in places with very little education and more primitive modes of production. It was even prescribed in the Bible. it goes on in Asia as well. Is your solution to bomb them? Come on. They’re there for the oil. It’s the Carter Doctrine.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “he stoning of women goes on in places with very little education and more primitive modes of production.”

            That should make things alright for Malala, the girl who wanted an education and STILL has death threats.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai

            And writer Salman Rushdie has a fatwa, issued by the satanic ayatoola khomeni – for writing a book of fiction.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Stoning women to death goes on in your “islamic republic of iran” which so primitive and uneducated that their nuclear program is made of sticks and stones.

          • defcon 4

            It goes on in Iran, in the here and now.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Actually, I had an islamopithecine tell me he was a muslim and I was “just” a Christian, so I was supposed to let him park his car behind mine so I couldn’t back out.

            Brown shirts hated Jews and the guys in White robes hates Jews AND Blacks. Sounds like your kind of people, Achmed.

          • defcon 4

            Unfunnily enough a Jewish man was beaten up by muslimes in the streets of Montreal just this week to cries of Jew and kike. Worse still, the police did NOT arrest the perps:
            http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/11/06/filthy-jew-shitty-kike-shout-two-fat-muslim-bitches-as-they-assault-a-man-who-only-wanted-to-discuss-the-quebec-proposed-ban-on-religious-attire/

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            “I just beat one of your jihadi buddies into a pulp on Saturday”

            LOL. You stinking scumbag.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “stinking scumbag”?

            Isn’t that’s what glenn greenwald wears when he’s “entertaining” – or is that CAIRs Ibrahim Pooper?

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            Why not ask him? He’s easily contacted on twitter. You might enjoy the exchange.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Not interested in exchanging tweets with terrorist supporting islamofascists.

            I’d rather that they hang themselves by their own petards.

          • Drakken

            You might like supporting muslim jihadist, we don’t.

          • defcon 4

            What if he’s not gay?

          • Drakken

            Whatsamatter? The jihadist probably deserved it.

          • ziggy zoggy

            So jihadis aren’t scumbags but I am. And I stink.

            Why get so emo about me? Do you want one of those Muslim sodomy sessions your buddy wrote about?

          • defcon 4

            How many najjis kaffir have been murdered by muslimes this week Ahmed?

          • Drakken

            CAIR is a muslim terrorist organization that supports and defends Islamic jihad of the muslim brotherhood. So glad I could help you out with that.

    • defcon 4

      Do those facts make what these muslimes are doing acceptable?

    • ziggy zoggy

      Only hopeless ret@rds think finger pointing absolves them of sin. Gaywald loves CAIR and islamopithecine terrorism. There is no excuse for that.

      Seriously. How fucking stupid are you?

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Nature or Nurture. Doesn’t matter anymore.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Funny that osama bin laden was fighting the commies WHILE the US had bases in SA.

      OBL was OK with taking weapons from the Americans at that time.

      What would happen if a “whistleblower” would dump KGB Russias secrets to the world as snowden did?

      Ever hear of gulags and summary executions?

      • Jude

        Another thing you & “Islamofascists” have in common: fighting together against “socialists.” See, you guys have more in common than you thought.

        Gulags, yes, I do remember hearing that term. Let’s see, something about Amnesty international reporting on GW Bush’s secret gulags around the world, where the USA tortured and sodomized Muslims. Hey champ, that really gave “Western Civilization” a black mark, eh?

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Gulags are a creation of the Soviets.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

          Your ignorance is limitless.

          “sodomized Muslims” So THAT’s why glenn greenwaldo has a thing for CAIR. He wants to get in on the action.

          • defcon 4

            THey now have gulags in Indonesia. INvoluntary re-education camps for muslimes that dare renounce islam.

        • Drakken

          If you sympathize with those jihadist, perhaps we should evaluate whether of not you are one.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          “Your vaulted “Western civilization” in action.”

          We should treat our enemies much better. So say our enemies.

    • Omar

      America did not support the Taliban nor Al Qaeda. You are repeating Communist propaganda from the Soviet Union. During the illegal Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, America and the West provided aid to the Afghan rebels. Why don’t you condemn Moscow’s illegal war in Afghanistan. But you are right about the current administration supporting the Muslim otherhood and its dangerous agenda.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      “America supported the Taliban in Afghanistan, supplied Osama bin Laden and his merry band of Saudia Arabian rebels with weapons and training”

      I remember that. So really America attacked itself. Right?

      Timelines are so inconvenient for historical revisionists.

      “America supports Saudi Arabia (the largest exporter of jihad in the world, – just follow the money), it supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and it supports Al Qaeda in Syria. That should tell you everything you need to know about the *real world* that Greenwald is engaged in, not the fantasty world that the ideologues peddle to you because they think you’re stupid. Are you that stupid?”

      So Greenwald is merely fighting to make better policy decisions. OK, that’s one interpretation. I’d say you’re the simple-minded one.

  • herb benty

    Typical EU style leftist that sees Islam in “Arabian Nights” and “Sinbad the Sailor” terms. Completely and purposely oblivious to the nightmare that is Islam. Islam is Satan’s masterpiece and unless you have God’s Spirit, it will make sense to you too.

    • Jude

      A lot of people are living in nightmares, whether it’s in Iraq or Los Angeles or Mexico or Detroit or Afghanistan or Palestine. Jesus never condemned people for their beliefs. In fact, he showed compassion to those with different beliefs; however, he was quite harsh to people like you.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        From the River to the Sea,
        Pal-e-SWINE Will Never Be!

        • Jude

          Your fascism has revealed itself.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Fascism?

            Google Images “arab n a z i salute”.

            And…

            national SOCIALIST hiter / Soviet SOCIALIST Pact;

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

          • Jude

            Google image this: “Bellamy salute.” It was the way Americans saluted the flag while pledging allegiance.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Hezbullah isn’t doing a Bellamy salute.

            Google Images “arab n a z i salute”
            FI:
            http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/news/71159d1153938408-who-hizballa-hezbollah_hamas_nazi_salute.jpg

            Your islamofascist and eurotrash pals have a “thing” for fascism. It didn’t disappear in 1945. It went into an underground bunker.

          • Jude

            Nazi parades in New York, admirers of Hitler in DC and among titans of industry, like Henry Ford and Walt Disney; Nazi support of the founding of Israel. We could play this game all day. By the way, I’m no Stalinist, so by all means demonstrate the corruption of the USSR; not sure what kind of victory you think you’re getting…

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            “Nazi support of the founding of Israel”

            Like this?

            1941 The Grand Mufti meets Hitler
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSUEx1cKUlg

            P.S. May your prophet of Satan, Muhammed, continue to BURN in H E L L for all time.

          • defcon 4

            Satan has been urinating in your ear.

          • Jude

            The 14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism: http://www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htm

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            rense?

            A fascist / n a z i / national SOCIALIST website.

            Try a kkk website to support your views on black people.

          • Smoking Hamster

            Rense? I thought you were crazy before but now I KNOW that you are.

          • defcon 4

            Islam fits all of them to a “T”!

          • ziggy zoggy

            You’re the one who wants to censor people’s writing.

          • defcon 4

            Funnily enough Abdullah, the charter of Hamas calls for the extermination of Jews as well as the state of Israel. A call echoed in no less than three “authentic” hadith of islam.

      • herb benty

        “When you judge, judge righteously”. C’mon there sonny, you judged me, everyone makes judgements all the time. I notice you mentioned “Palestine”, why not Israel where Arabs murder Israeli children? Jesus came down hard on the religeous folks quite hard, and others. He WAS inviting people to be saved, leaving their false beliefs behind. Islam tries to re-write the Judeo-Christian Faith, then says we all should be killed, earning the murderer a place in heaven. I condemn no one, but God will condemn many, and rightly so.

        • NOTANEMOPROG

          “the Judeo-Christian Faith”

          No such thing exists; merely a construct of extremist Christians and Jews trying to forge some common anti-Muslim ground.

          “God”

          No such thing exists. Grow up.

          • herb benty

            Jesus Christ, God’s Son, the WORD of God is spoken of from Genesis to Malachi, the Torah, Psalms and Prophets declare HIM. Ridicule is all you got and won’t serve you well when you stand in front of Him at your Judgement. There is no basis for Christianity without the Hebrew Bible, hence, the Judeo-Christian Faith designation, it’s not a new “religion”, it just accurately describes Christianity.

          • NOTANEMOPROG

            “Judgement”

            LOL. Bring it on.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Happy Eternal Nakba!

          • herb benty

            The world thought Noah hilarious also. They also decided it was smart to, “go with the flow”.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Tell Islamists that there is no “Allah”.

            Tell CAIR that there is no “Allah”.

          • Omar

            Oh, please. Islamists have been repeating anti-Christian and anti-Jewish propaganda in order to foment hatred and violence against those two religions.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            AND anti-Hindu, anti-Buddhists, anti-Bahai…

          • objectivefactsmatter

            “No such thing exists;”

            The entire Bible was written by Hebrews. The distinctions might be important but there is a lot of overlap. Identifying the messiah is the key to the rift.

          • defcon 4

            You would be AMAZED how many Christians have no idea who Yeshua, Yohann or the rest of the apostles were, or what religion they subscribed to, or even who they were preaching to (in the vast majority of cases). I have no idea who they think Jesus, John the Baptist, Saul/Paul, Matthew, Luke were. Southern Baptists? Europeans vacationing in Israel (or was it called Judah?)?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Jesus came to rebuke everyone, including his own apostles. If his apostles became “saints” why can’t other rebuked Jews also follow? Well they did.

            People just need to learn to think for themselves and to ask more questions before they think they understand.

            There are plenty of “Christians” that don’t actually identify the messiah correctly. They get the name and think that’s all there is to it.

          • ziggy zoggy

            No such thing as Judeo-Christian faith? There are more than three billion people who disagree with you. Close to four, actually.

            God doesn’t exist? You have even less chance to prove that than the other nonsense you’ve written here. Zero chance. Only a snot nosed kid could claim with misplaced certainty that there is no God. Some things never change. Juvenile stupidity is here to stay.

          • filter

            No such thing as islam religion either, it’s a death cult.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            72 virgins as a reward to jihadis who die fighting Infidels and the wrong kind of Muslim.

            An incentive to die – AKA Death Cult.

          • defcon 4

            Supposedly, the only guaranteed way to make it to allah’s heavenly whorehouse is to die in the way of jihad. It’s the golden ticket.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Actually, Jesus said the only way to Heaven was through him. Not that you would know, because you have never read the Bible. All you’ve read are excerpts at Christian hating left-wing websites. It’s idiotic for an atheist to try and use the Bible to justify his ant-American hatred.

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    I don’t think so…

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  • Erudite Mavin

    Thank you Robert Spencer for this article exposing Glenn Greenwald further, Snowden’s
    Co Conspirator.
    I have posted months ago about Greenwald’s Marxist background, the you tubes that can be seen of him speaking at socialist conferences.
    Greenwald blows off 9/11, states America should be weaken, and the usual Leftist propaganda.
    The allies of Snowden and Greenwald who believe they are heroes such as Ron and Rand Paul and the usual libertarian and those so called Conservatives who get sucked into their
    belief system are being made fools of by this crowd.
    Have seen too many of the usual posters on conservative sites give cover and respect to these traitors of America and the Free World.

  • Steeevyo

    Robert Spencer is just jealous that Greenwald got the scoop of a lifetime while he will just be remembered as a vile and racist propagandist. Streicher would have changed his view on Jews if he ever had gotten the opportunity to read the disgusting excrement that Robert Spencer unloads onto the internet.

    • defcon 4

      If Spencer isn’t telling the truth about islam then why has he received so many death threats from his islam0nazi fan club?

    • ziggy zoggy

      Scoop of a lifetime? Snowden and his leaks have already been forgotten and Gaywald is a non-entity. And equating criticism of islam with racism is idiotic. Talk about crapping on the web.

    • filter

      Our world would be so peaceful right now were it not for muslims.

      • JCDavis

        These are just our latest enemies. The fact is, that it is the US that goes around the world looking for trouble. It is the US involved in conflict after conflicts since WWII, with nothing to do with our defense.

        • filter

          Riiiiight – then tell the rest of the world to stop asking for help when things go bad in their country.
          Why are they taking billions in money to let the US in?

          MANY asked the US in.
          The bigger you are the more they want to take you down, simple as that.

          • JCDavis

            We bribe them to let us in. We corrupt governments all over the world, and if you want to find the most corrupt governments, just look at where we are presently bombing. Afghanistan, Pakistan. And during the Vietnam war, South Vietnam was the most corrupt country in the world. Bribery and blackmail are our MOs.

          • filter

            Oh stop, your just another self loathing American.
            Go live somewhere else – if you hate it here so much.

          • JCDavis

            Is this the best you can do, to believe that we are pure and good and anyone who doesn’t share this fantasy should leave? Well, it isn’t true. We are capitalists and the only thing we care about is capital. That is no secret. So when you see us in a war and wonder why, ask where is the profit and you will be halfway there. General Smedley Butler told us the truth of the matter long ago–

            “I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism…Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”

          • filter

            Big deal – one person who’s another self loathing progressive.
            Go live somewhere else, or stop being such a whiner.

          • filter

            Tell me why Obama is inviting the Chinese army to do military “maneuvers” in Hawaii ?

            Killing the American military but supporting a communist army…

            Chinese troops will have boots on the ground in Hawaii on Tuesday http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/59113

            China – who will tell all the news of other countries but none about themselves – Obama is emulating the Chicoms.

          • defcon 4

            Yeah Afghanistan and Pakistain have always been models of tolerant, liberal democracies. It’s the fault of the USA that they’re really islam0fascist theocracies.

          • JCDavis

            We talk about how corrupt they are, but we forget how they got that way. The CIA has admitted they’ve bribed nearly everyone in the Afghan government.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          The US has been the Worlds policeman far too long.

          The reaction to 9/11 is necessary.

          Before 9/11 if someone said that a bunch of fanatic Muslims would hijack passenger planes, lie to the passengers that if they didn’t resist they would be safe, yet the terrorist Muslims would fly the passenger planes into buildings, the usual FAKE anti-war crowd would cry Racism!

          Unfortunately 9/11 did occur – followed by many other terrorist attacks, and the world knows that Islamists are heartless terrorists.

          • JCDavis

            9-11 happened because we were supporting terrorists in Afghanistan, and because we built bases in Saudi Arabia, mucking about in conflicts and areas that had nothing to do with us. And so they hit us back, and when they did we cried like little girls. It’s the way of all bullies.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            9/11 happened because Islamofascists are at War with everybody.

            The Saudis permitted the US to build bases in SA. Your pals in AQ should have a beef with the Saudis, not with America. But Islamism is a barbaric ideology which respects no one – to the extent that Muslims kill each other – as seen in Syria – where 100,000+ have died.

            The US hits back and socialists, ever siding with fascists as they did in 1939, cry like little girls when their allies get hit back.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            That’s why we never saw “anti-war” types march against Al Qada – because the FAKE “anti-war” types side with Al Qada.

  • defcon 4

    CAIR must be pulling out all the stops for this article. Every slithering islam0fascist apologist in the lieberal world must be condemning this article.

  • quasimoto63

    It IS worth noting that Greenwald is a pissy homosexual who went to Brazil (in part) to be with his “husband.”

    • SFT

      and this is relevant, how?

      • Biff Henderson

        Mad Mo said that Joe Blow is a no go.

  • winstons

    But he gave us Snowden…the NSA/CIA/DIA police state surveillance is the greatest threat to our way of life and the American Republic. all is forgiven.

  • Stanley

    The best defense against terrorism appears to be to have a moral foreign policy that comports with international law, UN resolutions, and isn’t massively hypocritical. Which should also be the case without terrorism. I know, hilarious!!! But then again, addressing rational grievances, like the UK gov’t did with Irish terrorism, isn’t as profitable as endless escalation.

    Regarding Greenwald, I’ve seen his words and heard him speak numerous times about attacking the root cause of terrorism. Maybe my eyes and ears are extra special, though. Apologies if my comment gave the impression that ‘other’ people matter.

    • ziggy zoggy

      The root cause of terrorism is islam and Greenfarb promotes Islam. You are demented, to say the least.

      • JCDavis

        Terrorism is something that we ourselves practice. And we do it on a huge scale. In Vietnam, the CIA tortured and killed 30,000 civilians, and they haven’t gotten in less bloodthirsty over the years.

        • defcon 4

          I’d like to see some proof of your allegation. ON the flip side, muslimes slaughtered some 2.5 million Hindus in Bangladesh in the 1970’s and raped thousands of Hindu women.

          • JCDavis

            “I’d like to see some proof of your allegation.”

            Look up the “Phoenix Program.”

            Methods of torture used at the interrogation centers included:

            “Rape, gang rape, rape using eels, snakes, or hard objects, and rape followed by murder; electric shock (‘the Bell Telephone Hour’) rendered by attaching wires to the genitals or other sensitive parts of the body, like the tongue; the ‘water treatment'; the ‘airplane’ in which the prisoner’s arms were tied behind the back, and the rope looped over a hook on the ceiling, suspending the prisoner in midair, after which he or she was beaten; beatings with rubber hoses and whips; the use of police dogs to maul prisoners.”

            Military intelligence officer K. Milton Osborne witnessed the following use of torture:

            “The use of the insertion of the 6-inch dowel into the canal of one of my detainee’s ears, and the tapping through the brain until dead. The starvation to death (in a cage), of a Vietnamese woman who was suspected of being part of the local political education cadre in one of the local villages … The use of electronic gear such as sealed telephones attached to … both the women’s vaginas and men’s testicles [to] shock them into submission.”

            Then look up the The Bodo League massacre, in which we stood by and sometimes participated while as many as 200,000 northern sympathizers were killed in Korea.

          • defcon 4

            Re-stating your ludicrous lies doesn’t constitute proof.

          • JCDavis

            You really have nothing, do you, except denials?

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Denials that Islamofascism is at War with people all over the World? That’s your strategy.

            We just point it out.

          • JCDavis

            It’s clear that American fascism is at war with much of the world, and has been at war for more than a century.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            It’s clear that Socialist fascism is an ally of the Islamofascists who are at War with much of the world.

          • ziggy zoggy

            It’s clear that you’re an insane liar.

          • defcon 4

            I used to know some Korean nationals, funny thing they never knew about the Bodo League massacre.

          • JCDavis

            Very few did. It was blamed on the communists until SK owned up to it in 2008.

          • defcon 4

            WRT, the Bodo League massacre, the US did NOT sanction or take part in the executions, the sovereign government of S. Korea did. Nice try at obfuscating that fact.

        • ziggy zoggy

          Says who? Not even the Russians bother with lies like that anymore. Just brain dead Western leftists who fell for the old Soviet psy-ops. The Soviets didn’t even believe it while they were saying it. How does it feel to be such a stupid sucker?

        • Omar

          What about the Soviet KGB’s atrocities in Afghanistan when it invaded in 1979 and when Soviet soldiers killed many thousands of Afghan civilians. You are a Stalinist/Maoizt who hates democracy and freedom and who loves Communist totalitarianism. Fact-check.

          • JCDavis

            You can’t excuse our sins by saying others did it too.

    • JCDavis

      Indeed. It seems that we create terrorists on purpose, to justify spending half of what the world spends on war.

      • defcon 4

        Yeah islam0fascist terrorism is all just a figment of our imagination. Damn your lies are dumb.

        • JCDavis

          Before we fought islam, we fought communism. It doesn’t matter who the boogieman is as long as we have one. As long as we have a common enemy that we are taught to fear, our pockets can be picked to the tune of trillions.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Today neo-commies and islamofascists, odd bed fellows, are allies.

            Hence the Red / Green Alliance.

  • ziggy zoggy

    I suppose all the photos above are phony, right? Because it’s more important what Henry Ford thought back when he was still alive.

    Lunatic.

  • kaymckay

    proof that greenwald and obama are in kahoots boycott his website

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Say Hi to osama bin laden for me when you get to H E L L !

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      SORRY. I misunderstood your post.

      Stay Strong pal.

      In Eternal Nakba We Trust.

  • fbxl5

    It depends on your definition of “America”. If by “America” you mean the constitution on the United States of America then the answer is no but, if your mean the far left, right-wing nut version then the answer is yes.

    • defcon 4

      Yeah anyone who supports the rights guaranteed in the Constitution is a “nut” aren’t they? If you have a problem w/the US Constitution you can always move somewhere else.

      • fbxl5

        I took an oath to support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies both foreign and domestic.

        You?

        • defcon 4

          How do you define the “right-wing nut” version of the Constitution?

        • defcon 4

          Nidal Hassan took an oath to uphold the US Constitution, so did the islam0nazi who fragged members of his own platoon in the 101st Airborne in Kuwait, so did the muslime who gave US Naval berthing information to Al Qaida (thus facilitating the USS Cole bombing). Hell, the zero and Holder took oaths to uphold the US Constitution. It’s not so much the taking of the oath that matters, anyone can take an oath, it’s the keeping of the oath.

  • MrUniteUs1

    See Jews and Muslims can get together when they deem it beneficial.
    Did you know that Newscorp (Foxnews) top stock owner is a Saudi Prince.
    When is the last time you heard a single word critical about the Saudis on Fox news. I believe Greenwald and Snowden betrayed America. Everything they made public, is also made public to terrorist.

    • ziggy zoggy

      I heard criticism of the Saudis on Fox yesterday. The Saudis have absolutely no control over Fox. It is completely controlled by Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes. Fox is critical of its own program and staff.

      Snowmen and Greenwald are definitely traitors, though.

      • MrUniteUs1

        “Snowmen and Greenwald are definitely traitors, though”
        Stop the presses!!
        We are in agreement.

  • sfcmac

    Does Greenwald hate America? Is that a rhetorical question?

  • defcon 4

    Remember to wipe yourself with an odd number of stones.

  • David Wilson

    Does Robert Spencer hate the US Constitution and the political and personal freedoms it represents? Or does he just write as if he does?

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Do socialists and Islamists hate the US Constitution and the political and personal freedoms it represents? Why would anyone think that Sharia Law should be the Law of the Land in the USA?

    • defcon 4

      What is CAIR and the OIC lobbying for but islam0nazi blasphemy and heresy laws being implemented in the USA?

  • Mark Cosby

    This smear piece is disgusting but it doesn’t surprise me in a country where animal rights activists end up on official terrorist lists for passing out leaflets. It’s a sad state of affairs.

  • Mark Cosby

    I hate what America has become. We should work to make it a great nation instead of burying our heads in the sand to its problems. You wouldn’t run a business that way or a family, so why a country?

    • defcon 4

      Yes we know you and Greenwald hate America and Israel, which is why the both of you should hold hands and move to any one of the lovely islam0fascist states of the world.

  • Scotty44

    None of that changes the fact that the U.S. blockaded Japan’s oil and rubber supply, provoking hostilities with Japan. Such actions are considered acts of war. Roosevelt wanted into the war. Not only was building up for it a great economic stimulus that ended the Great Depression, but it was necessary to establish our economic dominance in the world. He needed Pearl Harbor to get the country to support it.

    • defcon 4

      There was no US “blockade” of the Imperial Japan except in your delusional re-write of history.

      • Scotty44

        From “Events Leading to the attack on Pearl Harbor”

        ” Responding to continuing Japanese aggression in China, the U.S. froze Japanese assets in the U.S. on 26 July 1941 and on 1 August established an embargo on oil and gasoline exports to Japan.[10] The oil embargo was an especially strong response because oil was Japan’s most crucial import, and more than 80 percent of Japan’s oil at the time came from the United States.”

        Appears you’re the one trying to rewrite history.

        • defcon 4

          Do you know the difference between “blockade” and “embargo” dimwit?

  • BradD99

    When it comes to Israel, Glenn Greenwald is basically a vile antisemite. He obsessively promotes radical-left bigots who promote “solutions” that erase Israel as a Jewish state (and therefore erase Israel, period).

    Honest criticism of Israel is fine. But ONLY mentioning Israel to bash it, and constantly promoting lunatics who ONLY demonize Israel AND obsessively promote that the very existence of Israel should be undone/destroyed/etc. = probably a damn antisemite.

    Honest critics of Israel are easy to spot. They might criticize Israel’s security barrier but they’d also mention that THOUSANDS of Palestinian terrorist attacks against Israeli Jews is what caused the security barrier to go up in the first place. Etc.

    And then you have deranged antisemites. When THEY criticize Israel, EVERY SINGLE THING about Israel is always wrong, in the worst way possible. And any info that’s positive about Israel literally gets omitted, or even worse, twisted against Israel somehow.

    If you skim Glenn ‘douchebag’ Greenwald’s timeline for the Israel references, literally almost everybody he plugs on the topic is someone who promotes a “one-state solution” that erases Israel from Earth.

    Because, you see, in the world of extreme-left antisemites, Muslim-majority states are allowed to be Muslim, but the one tiny Jewish-majority state is ‘evil/racist’ for being Jewish.

    And that’s the camp the disgusting Glenn Greenwald seems to be in.

    I don’t chare what actual NSA info he helps reveal. His disgusting behavior against Israel overrides anything good about him.

  • BradD99

    Here is a great daily blog about Israel with info that the Glenn Greenwald “hate Israel” extremist corner doesn’t mention: http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/

  • BradD99

    If Israel sneezes in the direction of an insane jihadist, the Glenn Greenwald “demonize Israel” gang of extreme-left wackjobs go crazy and rant angrily against Israel about it nonstop.

    If Syria kills 150,000 Arabs, that same gang above suddenly goes really quiet about it for about two straight years…

  • BradD99

    My honest, accurate review of Glenn Greenwald:

    1) Glenn Greenwald seems to love CAIR, a screwed-up organization.

    2) Greenwald regularly mocks the idea that crazed Islamic terrorists who intentionally blow innocent people up are actually terrorists. Constantly seems to pretend that terrorists intentionally blowing up a restaurant, and other guys then blowing up those terrorists, are equal acts.

    3) He’s been close to silent about Syria killing over 100,000 Arabs — presumably because it isn’t the USA or Israel’s fault. If someone hurts Arabs but the USA or Jews can’t be blamed, Greenwald doesn’t seem interested in mentioning it.

    4) He yells “Islamophobe” at almost anyone who points out how insane and backwards a lot of Middle East Muslim societies are. If you write an article about how insane sharia law is in a place like Pakistan, in Greenwald’s lunatic-left world, you are an evil racist.

    5) He almost only references the USA to bash it

    6) He almost only references Israel to bash it. Won’t mention a single positive word about the place. Either sinister, hateful mentions, or silence. Who but an antisemite would do that? Criticize Israel’s govt/whatever all you want, but there are a thousand blatantly positive things about Israel that makes them a lot better than the crazy neighbors.

    7) Almost every “activist” Glenn Greewald plugs/quotes on Israel is a “one-state solution” lunatic who literally wants to erase/destroy Israel — because it’s a Jewish state instead of an Arab/Muslim state. If greenwald plugs somebody and the topic is Israel, if you skim the tweets of that person for just 5 minutes you will eventually find them plugging the “destroy Israel” intifada maniacs, or some other lunatic who calls for Israel to be erased/removed.

    8) Valid criticism of the US government or the country in general is also fine. But again, what is the motivation of someone who literally only mentions the USA when demonizing it? While constantly whitewashing the insane behavior of Middle East jihadist lunatics?

    • Bill Hicks

      I love reading delusional types like you, making up your own version of reality. Too funny! It must gall you to know you’re a nobody and Greenwald’s star continues to rise, with no end in sight. LOL at you, loser. Enjoy your lies and made up reality, it’s all you’ll ever have. Greenwald? An ever-growing platform! Can’t wait for the Pulitzer to land in his lap as you weep like the baby you are.

    • Stephen54321

      You, um, do realise that Glenn Greenwald is of Jewish ancestry, right?

  • Tom Czerniawski

    Does Glenn Greenwald hate America? Dunno. All I can state with absolute certainty, is that I hate America, and have plenty of valid reasons.

    Espionage prone bunch of quasi-fascist warmongers with a death toll rivaling the Holocaust since the end of WW2? What’s not to love.