Does the Qur’an Teach Hate?

terrkorOn September 11, 2013, a public information officer for Palm Beach County, Florida named John Jamason posted a message on his personal Facebook page: “Never forget. There is no such thing as radical Islam. All Islam is radical. There may be Muslims who don’t practice their religion, much like others. The Quran is a book that preaches hate.”

The Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) immediately complained, and demanded that the county turn over to them everything that Jamason had written from a county computer over the previous month. County Administrator Bob Weisman assured CAIR that Jamason had not written the offending Facebook message from a county computer, and stated that county officials were determining whether or not to discipline him.

Left unexamined in the controversy was whether or not what Jamason said was true. In light of the Qur’an’s teachings about jihad and the subjugation of non-Muslims, he certainly had a case that “there is no such thing as radical Islam” and “all Islam is radical,” for there is no mainstream sect of Islam or school of Islamic jurisprudence that does not teach that the Muslim community must wage war against unbelievers and subjugate them under its rule.

Jamason was also correct that “there may be Muslims who don’t practice their religion, much like others.” Indeed, there are many people who identify themselves as Muslims who have no interest in waging jihad against unbelievers, but would prefer to hold down their jobs and take care of their families in peace in the same way as there are millions of people who identify themselves as believers in other religions who are not particularly concerned with living out every teaching of the religion with which they identify.

But what CAIR was most outraged about was not that, of course, but Jamason’s contention that the Qur’an teaches hate. They did not, however, provide any evidence showing that it doesn’t.

So does it?

The Qur’an teaches that Muslims must fight and kill unbelievers “wherever you overtake them” until “religion is Allah’s,” i.e. Islamic law rules all societies (2:190-193). They must fight unbelievers “until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah” (8:39). Muslims are to fight unbelievers and “prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows” (8:60).

Allah tells Muhammad to “fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination” (9:73). The followers of Muhammad should imitate him in this: “O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness” (9:123). For “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves” (48:29).

Muslims should not befriend non-Muslims, unless, as we have seen, it is to deceive them to save oneself from danger: “Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence” (3:28).

Allah says he will “cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve” (3:151). He tells his prophet: “[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, “I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.”

Among “those who have disbelieved” are the Christians, who have made themselves into disbelievers by worshipping Christ as God: “They have certainly disbelieved who say, ‘Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary’” (5:17; 5:72). In worshipping Christ, they have associated a partner with Allah, thereby becoming polytheists, and “the polytheists are unclean” (9:28). Both Jews and Christians have ascribed a son to Allah, for which Allah should destroy them: “The Jews say, ‘Ezra is the son of Allah’; and the Christians say, ‘The Messiah is the son of Allah.’ That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?” (9:30).

Chief among those are the Jews. The Muslim holy book also contends that Allah transformed disobedient Jews into “apes, despised” (2:65; 7:166), and “apes and pigs” (5:60). It says that they’re accursed for rejecting the Qur’an, which they should have recognized as confirming their own Scriptures: “And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them – although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved – but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of Allah will be upon the disbelievers” (2:89).

The Qur’an says that while Muslims are “the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind,” the People of the Book (primarily Jews and Christians) are mostly “defiantly disobedient” (3:110). The Jews “have been put under humiliation [by Allah] wherever they are overtaken, except for a covenant from Allah and a rope from the Muslims” – that is, except those who have accepted Islam or submitted to Muslim rule. “And they have drawn upon themselves anger from Allah and have been put under destitution. That is because they disbelieved in the verses of Allah and killed the prophets without right. That is because they disobeyed and [habitually] transgressed” (3:112). They killed the prophets because they disliked their messages: “Whenever there came to them a messenger with what their souls did not desire, a party [of messengers] they denied, and another party they killed” (5:70).

Not only have they disbelieved in revelations from Allah and killed the prophets, but they even dare to mock Allah himself: “And the Jews say, ‘The hand of Allah is chained.’ Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say.” They “strive throughout the land [causing] corruption, and Allah does not like corrupters” (5:64).

Allah gave food laws to the Jews because of their “wrongdoing,” and “for their averting from the way of Allah many [people]” (4:160), and by doing so, “repaid them for their injustice” (6:146). Some Jews are “avid listeners to falsehood” who “distort words beyond their [proper] usages.” These are “the ones for whom Allah does not intend to purify their hearts,” and they will be punished not just in hellfire but in this life as well: “For them in this world is disgrace, and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment” (5:41).

Jews dare to deny divine revelation, claiming that “Allah did not reveal to a human being anything,” to which Muhammad is told to respond, “Who revealed the Scripture that Moses brought as light and guidance to the people? You [Jews] make it into pages, disclosing [some of] it and concealing much” (6:91).

In light of all this, it is understandable that Muslims should not get close to such people: “O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people” (5:51). What’s more, the Jews are “the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers” (5:82).

While Muslims are the “best of people” (3:110), “they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures” (98:6). They are “like livestock” (7:179). “Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe” (8:55).

But when John Jamason called the Qur’an “a book that preaches hate,” in the eyes of CAIR it was he who was the one who was preaching hate, not the holy book of Islam. The hypocrisy of their harassment of Jamason was self-evident, but only to those familiar enough with the Qur’an and honest enough to acknowledge the nature of all too much of its contents. That was a small group that did not include officials of Palm Beach County, who were – like so many other officials of all kinds in the United States and elsewhere in the staggering but still marginally free world – all too ready to entertain the complaints about Muslim pressure groups despite being woefully ill-equipped to evaluate those complaints properly. They knew, like Fort Hood jihad mass murderer Nidal Hasan’s superiors, that what was important above all was to avoid being labeled “bigoted” and “Islamophobic.”

How grand that they had their priorities straight. All it cost was thirteen dead and thirty wounded.

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  • Chezwick

    It’s not just the Quran that preaches hate, so does the other major source for Islamic law, the Hadith. In them, you’ll find the “Prophet” engaged in

    1) pedophelia (Aisha), 2 – genocide (Banu Qurayzah), 3 – political murder (Ka’b bin Ashraf), 4 – the worst kind of religious coercion (“he who discards his Islamic religion, kill him”) 5 – torture and mutilation (punishment of the renegades) 6 – legalized rape of female captives (his instructions on ‘coitus interuptus’) and many, many other barbarisms.

    Sadly, if you try to point this out to the apologists or the uninitiated, they’ll respond with the typical appeal to relativism and a recitation of a litany of intolerance promulgated in the Bible. Instead of getting bogged down in theological comparisons, the effective counter-argument should be that the Western world is POST-Christian; every country in the West today has a secular constitution. Therefore, what’s written in the Bible has little or no relevance to public policy or law….but that in Islam, the opposite is true…that the Quran and Hadith have an ENORMOUS influence not just on religious practices, but on public policy AND law.

    Liberals will cling tenaciously to their multicultural delusions, but sooner or later (probably when it’s too late), they’ll realize that in Islam, they have a tiger by the tail.

    • truebearing

      The Left won’t criticize enemies of Christianity or Judaism. Being essentially evil themselves, they embrace any allies, regardless of how depraved they may be. Morally repugnant beliefs have never been a problem for the Left.
      The number one objective of the Gramscian revolution is to destroy Christianity.

      • herb benty

        You nailed it. The left seems ready to commit suicide just to get the Judeo-Christians and the Covenant Jews. We ARE allowed to defend ourselves….HEAR THAT, Jews and Christians!!! Peter the disciple had a sword under his clothing, wake up. Todays equivalent is a gun.

        • Headed4TheHills

          Well said, herb, well said.

        • C. Anthony Mitchell

          I guess Jesus was a marksman, I fear for the future…for you.

          • herb benty

            CAM, Dear person, we all die one day, BUT I for one refuse to allow the North American “Left” aided by Islam, to take over, “the land of freedom”. Thank you.

          • C. Anthony Mitchell

            with all due respect that is bogus the only time this country was truly free was when the Natives roamed the plains following the Herds. They were wiped out by civilization, one that claimed to be Christian, Christ never taught genocide…ever.

          • herb benty

            Look old boy, It wasn’t the Pilgrims or Christians that murdered natives, of course God is against that. So America was never a “free” country? Quit poisoning your mind with leftism.

    • chris heath

      Chezwick – you know -Muslim Brotherhood, is a powerful organisation
      in Egypt, and was considered to be not helping Egyptian people. Islam, aka MB,
      operates on mutiple levels in society, including media, creating institutions
      that appear to be helping inter-religious debate, reaching out at a political
      level, and fund raising under the guise of charities. This network is
      world-wide. And particularly influential in USA, and Canada. They, obviously, try to keep
      a low profile. PR-wise, Muslims will always claim to be the victims. Just an observation

      • C. Anthony Mitchell

        Based on your stmt is seems for Paranoid whites Islam is the new Black….aint that something.

    • Headed4TheHills

      Post-Christian? Secular Constitution? Lemme guess, separation of church and state, right?

      • defcon 4

        Except for islam, which seems to be having more and more religious functions at taxpayer expense — incl. in our nation’s public schools.

        • Headed4TheHills

          Very true, defcon 4.

      • herb benty

        Ya H4TH, America is a mess,thanks to Obama and his technocrats and in Canada these same idiotic lefties demonize our wonderful Oilsands resourse. Post-Christian will be a nightmare and you can already see the results.

    • C. Anthony Mitchell

      I can find incest and just as much violence bordering ethnic cleansing in the Bible if I too took their passages out of context. How did the Israelites take over Canaan? We all can conveniently extrapolate what ever we wish from Scripture.

  • ziggy zoggy

    It never ceases to amaze me how primitive and poorly written the Koran is. And how many people have to die because we protect it.

    • truebearing

      I think the same thing every time I read it, but then what do you expect from a bad cut and paste job that is writhing with hate?

    • Chezwick

      I too find the Quran mind-numbingly redundant and poorly written. But I’d like to share something….

      I actually once made an on-line acquaintance with a Muslim “revert” turned apostate who – after converting to Islam – learned Arabic so as to read the Quran in its original tongue. He later came to his senses, apostated and had nothing at all good to say about the faith, but I DO remember him telling me that when reciting the Quran in Arabic, it has a certain meter and rhythm that can be hypnotizing.

      Coming from an OPPONENT of the faith, I found this to be a fascinating observation. It is corroborated with video of children in the Madrases of Pakistan as they recite the Quran (though not their native tongue), their bodies moving rhythmically to the verse. It’s very bizarre.

      • truebearing

        It is well designed to brainwash people, hence the redundancy. Of course, when children are taught nothing but the teachings of the Islamic cult, it is bound to be even more effective.

        • Softly Bob

          Check out Yusuf Islam (aka Cat Stevens). The songwriter / lyricist claims that what attracted him to the Quran was it’s poetic rhythm. He obviously didn’t notice the content and the lies, but based his spiritual convictions on it’s evil melody. The poor fool was bewitched by this sewage, and obviously sold his soul on the basis of that fact.

    • Jim Twotoes

      You nailed it brother. The Koran is an incoherent, poorly organised, rambling, babbling mess that was obviously written by a man/men and is not the word of God.

      • C. Anthony Mitchell

        where does that leave the BIble paul wrote 70+% of the NT

        • Truth_in_Defense

          And Paul shared 16 revelations that he received direct from Jesus. Shared the word of god. And what was he primarily sharing? Gospel of Grace. That we can have a free gift of salvation…if we just truly believe in our heart that Jesus died for us, was buried 3 days, and then rose again in resurrection with a glorious body. And that he thus is Covering all our sins and giving us salvation, True Believing is what most humans lack.

    • C. Anthony Mitchell

      U never read it so stop it.

  • truebearing

    CAIR’s mission is the same as the Left’s: stifle the truth, especially the truth about them and their intentions. Both of these evil political cults live by the lie and motivate with hate.

    • Boots

      More to the point is that Islam and liberalism have the same goal… Islam demands submission to Allah and liberalism demands submission to government. Both are totalitarian mindsets. I believe that’s why liberals are so supportive of Islam… kindred souls.

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      • Chris Behme

        Both liberals and Islamists feel absolutely sure that they are superior human beings. Everyone else is inferior to them.

        • Boots

          I believe it runs much deeper than that… even the liberals who recognize they’re not superior still use the ideology for control. Any trolls reading this… pack sand… but throughout recent history liberals have allied themselves with or supported some of the worst dictators. I can’t psychoanalyze them but I believe it’s because they wish they had the level of control over the population that leaders like Stalin, Guevara, Mao, the leftists during the French Revolution, Mugabe, and on and on had. That they do it against the will of the people and destroy the economies of their respective countries is inconsequential to the left… because… and this is where your very correct observation about the smugness of liberal superiority hits home… to them capitalism isn’t fair. Those of us who actually produce something, in liberals eyes, are responsible for providing for those who are capable but don’t want to take care of themselves (trolls… we need to help the truly needy, not the lazy). I agree, Islamists do believe in their superiority. And I wish liberal women would recognize in Islam women are no better than cattle… and that gay liberals would recognize Islam is happy to kill them.

          • Chris Behme

            All good points.
            I have a theory that there are fundamentally only two types of people: those who believe IN God, (and a spiritual connection between people, and a higher purpose in life), and those who believe that they ARE God, and the world exists for them to exploit to their satisfaction, and nothing more, really. Liberals and Islamists both like to play god with other people’s lives.
            They believe they ARE gods.

          • Boots

            And we’re called haters for just pointing out the obvious. I don’t hate Islam or liberals. I just recognize their threat to our liberties. Liberals push the “hate speech” meme to try and shut us up and never actually respond to the substance of our arguments. Something that has long fascinated me is that we’re accused of hate yet there is far more political violence committed by the left and Muslims than can be traced to the right or any other major religion.

          • freedomringsforall

            Amen

            Our country and this world are spinning into insanity on purpose.

            The Internationalist have their plan, the Islamists have their plan, and the commie/socialists have their plan.

            For the moment they all align with intent so they are all using each other to create absolute worldwide chaos and each leader propped up by these groups is out for what they want and obama is good at that game.

            The purpose for chaos and death is to justify clamp down, arms confiscation, and in general steps toward dictatorial powers for these groups.

            These groups just like the axis powers in World War 2 will work together on a worldwide basis to make these realities come to fruition.

            Just as the axis powers in world war two believed that they could rule the world in sync after dominating it they each all also secretly believed that they could overcome the other in the end and become the one true leader of the entire world, so do these new axis powers believe the same.

            I believe the internationalists believe as Hitler did that with an overwhelming political power, economic power, and military power of a united Europe and the Americas in their pocket and with deep inroads (politically and economically) into the African continent and the mid asia, and asia proper continents that they will eventually come out on top as the unified world leaders and thus enforce the one world governance that they have been developing onto the world.

            We are one step away from a total worldwide dictatorship.

            The 2nd amendment.

            If we do not ensure that our 2nd amendment rights and freedoms are rock solid then no rights will be and if we lose the U.S. we lose the world.

            And that my friends is what all of them are counting on.

          • Boots

            Well stated. If only the fascists on the left and Islamists would kill each other instead of uniting to take our liberties. Sigh. The interesting thing is leftists and Islamists are so similar in that they both have the same goal… submission. Islamists believe in submission to Allah and liberals believe in submission to government.

          • freedomringsforall

            amen
            Actually as you understand they are almost exactly the same because islam is a theocracy.
            So, it is a central planning dictatorship just as socialism and communism are.
            It is funny that many, many, mostly liberal, people argue over and over that a socialist or commie cannot be an islamist because socialists and communists are atheists.
            Well, just as they are often caught in ignorant mental fantasy constructs of their wishes for reality here too their are caught in their wishes for reality instead of observing the real reality in the world around them.
            They fail to observe that there are millions and millions of socialist/communist/islamists in the world.
            Now I may agree that it at least sounds stupid and maybe is stupid, but I am not so stupid myself that I cannot open my eyes and observe that there are in fact millions and millions of socialist/commie/islamists.
            So, it is actually human nature that they would collaborate.
            Birds of a feather and all.

          • Boots

            Interesting comparison because even though liberals will never admit it, liberalism is their religion and like today’s militant atheists they are very evangelistic in their approach to converting us to government dependency… and like Islamists they have no problem using violence proactively or the force of government.

          • freedomringsforall

            Amen :)

          • C. Anthony Mitchell

            So American became a World power by peaceful means? The Revolutionary War wasnt a proactive use of force? the trail of tears wasnt a holocaust? I find your scope on these issues myopic and ill-informed

          • ziggy zoggy

            Yeah. Like the Mexicans thought they could handle the Texans after the Texans whipped the Comanche.

            Stupid, stupid, stupid motherfuckers.

          • freedomringsforall

            :)

          • C. Anthony Mitchell

            Islam is not a threat to your liberties. Extreme religion of any kind is. The Qu’ran teaches us not to be extreme in our religion, and the Bible teaches us to judge ye not that ye be judged. the problems is people take up religion and try to do God’s job instead of playing their own role. For the record the people that wiped out an entire civilization that was in the Americas for millenia, slaughtered 6 million Jews in europe, 5 Million Jews in Ethiopia, close to 1 Billion African’s over 400 years of pillage and enslavement, and innocent Japanese Civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki the perpetrators of the heinous acts through out human history gave and recieved Christmas presents. The KKK is listed as a Christian organization. I question how far you traced.

          • Boots

            Bury your freaking head in the sand if you want but there is only one religion today where a significant segment of their members want nothing less than conversion… or death to those who don’t. The KKK representing Christianity is hardly a valid comparison when you take in to account they never had the clout to start wars and virtually every current war involves Islam. Thank you for being peaceful but try to do something about your violent brethren. You have to reach into history to get real sectarian violence by other religions. Much of Islam, on the other hand, is still operating under a 6th century code of ethics.

          • C. Anthony Mitchell

            These Muslims arent practicing true Islam. I am also not oblivious to the probolems within the Muslim community and the problem of Masjids that teach a message of hate. My brethren aren’t violent. Islam is not operating on a 6th century code of ethics but those that have bastardized the religion and misapplied their doctrines are, and they will answer for it as the God of Abraham that all three major religions serve is a just God. The violence being perpetrated by Zionist is just as bad. Let’s not forget that the Qu’ran teaches that if murder one human being it is like murdering all of humanity. We need to contextualize the discourse in such away that we eek solutions and not more reasons to hate and perpetuate the cycles of blood shed. It is going to take all of us Jew and Gentile, Muslim and Hindu and all in between to make this world better for our kids going forward. Death and Satan are no respecter of religious affiliations. May be peace be unto you and your family and I thank you for a respectful exchange of ideas. It seems we may be taking the first steps to being the change we hope to see in this world. AsSalaam a Laikum.

          • Boots

            Thank you for the kind words. Enjoy your evening and the time you’re graced with your family and friends.

  • http://www.facebook.com/melvin.polatnick Melvin Polatnick

    Those that follow every literal word of the Bible or Koran will cause havoc and chaos among their neighbors. But the present danger to the world is from the Islamic crazies that obey the command to kill infidels.

    • geneww1938

      I’d rather have a neighbor preaching the Gospel and encouraging eternal salvation in heaven than being silent and letting those who ‘do not know they are sinners, do not repent and accept Jesus as their savior’ to spend eternity in hell.

      Heaven or hell are the only two options for every human and only those accepting the Gospel message will enter Heaven.

      Life is too short and eternity too long to be wrong about this topic!

  • geneww1938

    The link to this article must be mailed to every person you know. It should be obvious that their Allah is of demonic origin is not Satin himself. A one page proof that god authored the Bible is at http://jc.does-it.net

  • TruckinMack

    Middle East oil money can buy a lot of American lawyers, thus using our own courtrooms against us. Of course, Middle East oil has bought a lot of politicians, judges, newspapers, and movie studios, as well.

    Normally ‘Sunshine is the best disinfectant.’ but these days the Liberal media and the Hollywood machine have drawn the curtains, turned out the lights, and locked the doors on the truth. ‘Spinning, Lying, and Deceiving’ have replaced ‘Truth, Justice and the American Way’.

    BTW: ‘Truth, Justice and the American Way’ is a motto that has gone out of fashion with the glitterati; a motto our younger generation has learned is too awkward, too ironic. It is something that makes all the cool kids ‘eye roll’. Eventually most of this generation will grow into mature thinking adults and realize the lies they have been told. Once they do, the popular culture will have no use for them, and it will start brainwashing the next generation.

    • John E Coleman

      Hi Trucker ,
      There is a great deal of truth in you Post !!
      However , this younger generation may Never know the truth if
      the Obama Administration has a Damn Thing to do with it !

      Our { all } Schools are being taken over and BrainWashing began not
      too long ago ! 5 years and 6 months Right ?

      Semper Fi !

    • C. Anthony Mitchell

      the truth justice and American way ended on the Trail of tears, in the injustice of Jim Crow, and the way the American Government has always lied.

  • muchiboy

    I disagree with the gist of your rant against Islam,but only a five year old corpse could be excused for not recognizing the need for a conversation on Islam and Modernity,”the Slow Embrace”.

    • Aisha

      So you are 40 year old or older Muslim convert from Zimbabwe who moved to Canada for the the health care system and because Zimbabwe is such a swell place (life expectancy under 55).

      FYI modernity means from the Latin (Mode of the day). The mode of the day could by National Socialism, communism, anarchy or many other things. It just depends on your locale. There is nothing inherently superior about the current mode of the day just because it is the mode of the day. that is just a conceit of people living in the present who have no knowledge of history or of many of the arts & sciences.

      Now Islam is a perfect totalitarian system in the mode of “1984”. They declare anything before the coming in Islam to a region is ignorant. So there is no need for museums, archeology or respecting ones ancestors. Why respect them? They were ignorant after all.

      Once you erase the past, people are only cognizant of one mode.

      • muchiboy

        Most people reading this would interpret “Modernity” as represented by what we see and how we live in the western and more increasingly the eastern world.Not only is it defined by our technology,it is defined by ideas and ideals.While our technology has progressed,our ideals have as well,to the point that we embed all kinds of Rights and Freedoms in our societies.This way of thinking is not unrelated to education,health and other standards of living,and has definitely impacted such vulnerable and fragile societies as Afghanistan,Somalia,Yemen,Pakistan,etc.
        Islam was responsible for preserving and spreading knowledge and ideas while Europe entered a dark period.More than anything, Aisha,Islam needs to embrace secular ideas,that recognize personal freedoms,equality and equity.Most,not many,Muslims live in our Western societies little different than we Christians or you Jews.Excepting for a few societies,e.g.,N.Ireland,Israel,we are not bothered too much by religious schisms,as are some of the Islamic societies.That is an internal conversation that awaits a conference room.The other conversation needs to focus on the secularization of Islamic societies in a modern world,recognizing the benefits of the West’s progressive human rights legislation.

        • Charles Martel

          Muslims preserved and spread knowledge! And big BS to that. Wherever they went science and technology ceased to evolve. Civilization regressed to primitive times as currently exists in Muslim dominated countries. Even Saudi is primitive in relation to human rights.

          • defcon 4

            Saudi barbaria is the world’s only one religion apartheid state, as well as a complete gender apartheid state.

        • Smoking Hamster

          “We Christians”

          I am a Zionist Christian and you as a Muslim do not speak for me in the West.

          Your “holy” book commands Muslims to kill and subjugate people of my faith simply because we believe different things. It also commands Muslims to kill and subjugate Jews simply because they are Jews to bring about the last days.

          That is quite different from mainstream Christian theology which says to preach the gospel to all the earth to bring about the last days. Judgement is to be carried out by God and not Man for religious differences.

          “The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.”
          Sahih Muslim

        • Drakken

          Islam is responsible for putting us into the dark ages you bloody indoctrinated useful idiot, what do you think was around the Med before islam? Why was North Africa the bread basket of Europe before islam came crawling out of the desert and now look at it, islam at its finest. Unless and until islam is put down like the rapid animal it is, we are facing a new dark ages unprecedented in history, sorry, but people like me will not go quietly to appease those who wish our demise. Where ever islam goes, the blood always flows, without exception.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          Islam was responsible for preserving and spreading knowledge and ideas while Europe entered a dark period.

          There is so much wrong with that statement that it is truly pathetic. Apparently, you received a very anti-Christian, pro-statist, and Marxist indoctrination as your education. Okay, no wonder you are so utterly unhinged. Sucks to be you.

          Most,not many,Muslims live in our Western societies little different than we Christians or you Jews.Excepting for a few societies,e.g.,N.Ireland,Israel,we are not bothered too much by religious schisms,as are some of the Islamic societies.

          Your perception has been totally skewed by your anti-Christian Marxist indoctrination. If I were you, I’d consider confronting my parents for the enormous damage they did to your perception and incredibly warped worldview.

          The other conversation needs to focus on the secularization of Islamic societies in a modern world,recognizing the benefits of the West’s progressive human rights legislation.

          You don’t realize how dumb that is. Secularization means domination by manmade laws, while the Koran is the direct verbatim testimony of Allah (God) as dictated to Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel, on the other hand. Hence, all manmade laws are abominations that must be obliterated since it amounts to putting the word of very fallible man above that of the divine word of very infallible Allah (God). No Muslim will ever agree to that as long as he or she is still living. Indeed, the sole fundamental purpose of Islam is the subjugation of all religions and all infidels into Islamic totalitarianism through both violent and non-violent jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is Islamic totalitarian law, and again Islamic totalitarian law is divine since it emanates directly from Allah (God almighty).

        • TienBing

          Actually what was “preserved” were the remnants of the cultures and technologies destroyed by Islamic conquest. Muslims deliberately conflate pre-Islamic accomplishments of Near Eastern cultures with Islam. Assyrian and Chaldean medicine, astronomy, and mathematics for example, were highly advanced before the ruin visited on them by savage Islamic conquerors. Muslims took credit for the fruits of those sciences. Gullible Europeans assumed that the dwindling technology seeping out of the Near East was from the Muslims. Muslims of course actively promoted the misconception.

    • Jon MC

      Muchiboy, assuming that you are replying to Lee:
      I don’t think you grasped the irony that if you swap “MUSLIMS” for “unbelievers/disbelievers” – i.e. NON-MUSLIMS – you get verses from the Koran itself.
      Which rather neatly proves the point of the article now doesn’t it?

    • Drakken

      Islam needs to be eradicated from our midst, for it is a blight and scourge upon humanity. You cannot make peace with the devils religion unless it is the peace of the grave.

      • M Ab

        Mr. you must be drukken to think that you or anyone could make the sun rise from the west and set in the east; that’s how hard it would be to eradicate Islam, a God-given way of life. Blame hypocrital people, not the religion!

        • Drakken

          Islam can be eradicated, it just takes will and tenacity to carry it out. Besides, what are you muslims going to do if mecca and medina are shinny glass bowls? Our western technology can make your cities unlivable and wastelands. One way or another, you muslims will push us to total war and when it does happen, you will have no one to blame but yourselves.

  • Lee

    Any reasonable person – even those bullied into Islamophilia – only has to imagine a religion with verses like the Koran, except with “Muslims” in place of Christians or Jews or unbelievers, to see that the hatred Muhammad preached is clear and incontrovertible. For example, would anyone call the following verses respectful of Muslims, or teaching hatred of them?

    Consider this verse with similarity to Koran 5.73
    ‘THEY DO BLASPHEME who claim MUHAMMAD was a prophet – verily A GRIEVOUS PENALTY will befall them’

    Or (as with 3.151) ‘We shall cast TERROR into the hearts of those MUSLIMS who disbelieve because they ascribe unto God criminals as prophets’

    Or (as 98.6) ‘Those MUSLIMS are the WORST of creatures’

    Or (as 9.29) ‘FIGHT MUSLIMS until they are in a state of SUBJECTION’

    Or (as 7.166) ‘Be ye MUSLIMS APES – DESPISED!’
    etc etc etc…

  • Sotar

    The leftists admire Islam because both advocate all powerful, tyrannical government.

    • Texas Patriot

      Which is precisely why so many Neo-Conservatives are so fond of it.

  • pennant8

    What we are dealing with here is Islam’s own special rules of logic. The Koran says what it says, but it doesn’t say what it says. If that sentance makes no sense to you then you are not schooled in Muslim logic. On the other hand, if it makes perfect sense to you, then you would make a good spokesman for CAIR.

    • defcon 4

      It says one thing to the believers and another thing entirely to the najjis kaffir — especially when lying in front of the enemedia.

  • snafubar

    Have any of you noticed that the symbol Obama created for his hope-n-change regime (the red “O” with blue stripes underneath) eerily resemble the Muslim crescent moon and that of the radical Egyptian Salafist political party?

    Also, when he signs his name, the “O” in Obama has a slash through the middle of it (why?) that makes the “O” look just like a Muslim crescent moon?

    Just sayin’.

  • Unc Remus

    Islam Is A Plague.

  • Jason

    The Koran should be mandatory reading for all students. The more people read it, the more they’ll realise that it’s nothing more than anti-semitic ramblings, and pagan bashing, mixed with a healthy dose of believing in an unseen deity. It brings all the bad aspects of religion, and none of the good.

    Perhaps people should buy the Koran, and then rip out all of the hateful verses, and stick them up in public. People need to know this! Ignorance will be the death of our civilisation!

  • SandyLester

    islamics do not teach hate, there are hate

  • Texas Patriot

    The Koran does not teach hate. It teaches murder. In fact, I think it is a fair statement that the Koran teaches that killing non-Muslims is actually doing them a favor. How better to love a non-Muslim than to kill them?

  • DeShawn

    Hah, I am always amazed by what big hypocrates your jews are. You talk abou the Koran but don’t mention the talMUD which is the dirtiest hate book ever written. I urge the gentiles (or “goys” as thdy like to call us) here to check out some quotes form that book: http://rense.com/general86/talmd.htm

    • Charles Martel

      While your are correct about the Talmud and to a lesser degree the Bible, the fact is no Jew are actively bombing people under the direct instruction of their text. Most Jews are secular, so it is a mute point. When Christians do things, such as killing in the name of their religion, they are overwhelmingly condemned by other Christians, sometimes even too much so.

      I would never consider Rense a reliable source for anything. His site is more for entertainment than anything else, that is if you like that sort of thing. For example, his sponsors sale you such things as “free power generators.”

      • iluvisrael

        the thing that calls itself deshawn is a low IQ wannabe klansman who should be ignored

        • oldfatguy

          With a name like DeShawn, it’s a safe bet that if he belongs to the Klan, it’s going to be the Oakland chapter…

          • iluvisrael

            if the thing is white, it must hate itself because it’s always referencing white supremacist sites and names. maybe it’s a tranny – trans race!

          • DeShawn

            Again, you can believe what you want, fool. Just look at the internet. EVERYONE hates the jews, and everyone knows what you folks are up to. You and your media can’t control who gets the see the truth anymore. We’re sick of your lies.

          • iluvisrael

            G-d sure loves us – after all, we’re His chosen – and that just burns up little worthless nobodies like you!

        • defcon 4

          The Nation of Islam is fond of spewing the same kind of bile. As a matter of fact, the only whiteys ever invited to a NoI meeting were NAZIS.

          • DeShawn

            I admire the Minister Louis Farrakhan, but I do NOT support the NoI’s anti-white beliefs. I have no problem with white folks in general; just the jews who are trying to genocide them.

        • DeShawn

          My IQ is higher than yours for sure, you inbred jew. And if I should be ignored, then why are you always replying to me? And I’m no klansman. I’m just one of many people from many different backgrounds SICK and TIRED of jewish tyrranny.

          • iluvisrael

            poor deformed – you’re sooooo oppressed by us Jews – get on your knees and clean my house – that’s about all you’re good for – cleaning the homes of RICH Jews!!

      • StanleyT

        Actually he is NOT correct about the Talmud (I don’t know what he said as it’s been deleted, but I can guarantee that he is wrong). If you want to know more, I recommend The Real Truth about the Talmud at http://talmud.faithweb.com/

      • DeShawn

        Actually, sir, the jews take the talMUD very seriously. It tells them
        that “goys” (or cattle) are subhumans and can be cheated, lied to, and
        killed without consequences. That alone explains HUNDREDS of years of
        bad behavior from the jews. I posted a link to the quotes that show
        this, but it must have upset the jews that run this website because they
        deleted my comment. By the way, for all you Christians out there, the
        talMUD calls Mary (Mother of God) a harlot and says that Jesus is in
        h#ll boiling in hot excrement. Are THESE REALLY the people you want as
        your allys? The jews HATE us Christians.

        • ObamaYoMoma

          Actually, sir, the jews take the talMUD very seriously.

          Hey moonbat, only Muslims, in stark contrast to true faith based religions, claim that the texts of the Koran is the direct verbatim testimony of Allah (God) as dictated to Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel. Thus, only Muslims, also in stark contrast to true faith-based religions, take the words of their holy book as literally as possible. Hence, go buy a clue you bigot!

        • defcon 4

          “us Christians” is that how the NoI refers to its members these days? Or would that be the “church” of Jeremiah Wright?

        • Gee

          We do hate the rapes, robberies and genocide that you CHRISTIANS have committed.

          Leave us alone and that will be just fine – otherwise moron we will kill you

          • defcon 4

            Muslime much?

          • Gee

            No get the same from those racists too

          • defcon 4

            When was the last genocide committed by Christians again?
            When was rape ever an acceptable practice in Christianity again? Are you sure you’re not a muslime?

        • M Ab

          Thanks for confirming my suspicions Deshawn, i just knew there had to be a reason why truthhaters at frontpage could allow so much hateful rant and not allow opinions to show how some people would like to see the human patchwork of understanding come together. I said that in the Bible, John 4:1-2 , Jesus says that whoever testifies of me is of God and in the quran, God told Mohammed to testify of Jesus 3:45. Will the real truthfighters at frontpage step up to the moral plate for God? America? Their future? It seems to me that what the/some Muslims did to the hadiths, the/some Jews did to the Talmud. We are our brother’s keeper, keep the torch lit.

    • iluvisrael

      whenever a shmuck like you gets in trouble, the first thing you want is a Jewish lawyer!

      • DeShawn

        Not this jew-wise black man. I’d sooner hire Satan himself than get one of those slimy jew lawyer bottom feeders.

    • Gee

      Invented quotes don’t work. Not one of those ‘quotes’ is found anywhere at all in the Talmud.

      Another racist lie from a racist moron

      • DeShawn

        Yeah, and I really believe that. jews lie as reflexively as regular people breath. If those quotes are all fake, then why did the jews that run this website decide to sensor me? Answer THAT, demon.

  • Ron Magnus

    Excellent explanation but missing an important component — the Islamic doctrine of ABROGATION. The counter argument of CAIR, et al, to our observations about the Koran, Sira, and Hadith is to quote the many peace, love, sunshine, and lollipops passages in the Koran. These are from early parts of the Koran and are abrogated (superseded) by the violent passages. The Koran itself has a passage that explains this. I have found it essential to point this out to the average, unaware person who believes what they see on TV when a Muslim is invited to reassure us that there is nothing to worry about.
    Mr. Spencer, thanks for all you do as a leader in this struggle.

  • Thomas J.Stratford

    Let those that defend filthy Islam, demonstrate what Koranic verses show any love, tolerance, or benevolence toward any non Muslim {hint there are none}.

  • Charles Martel

    When I saw the title of this article, it made me laugh as I thought of a saying my dad has to someone who asks a question with and obvious affirmative answer. “Has a cat got an a$$?”

  • ObamaYoMoma

    and stated that county officials were determining whether or not to discipline him.

    He may be disciplined just for posting the truth on Facebook? Heck, because of Leftism and stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad, thing are getting out of hand really fast here in the USA. You’re entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to post it publicly. Wow. Shades of the old Soviet Union here!

    In light of the Qur’an’s teachings about jihad and the subjugation of non-Muslims, he certainly had a case that “there is no such thing as radical Islam” and “all Islam is radical,” for there is no mainstream sect of Islam or school of Islamic jurisprudence that does not teach that the Muslim community must wage war against unbelievers and subjugate them under its rule.

    I couldn’t agree with Spencer more on this point.

    Jamason was also correct that “there may be Muslims who don’t practice their religion, much like others.”

    Maybe a few taking advantage of their situation living in the West and a tiny amount in those places in the Islamic world ruled by an authoritarian dictator as opposed to Sharia, but not very many, since apostasy is a death sentence in Islam, as Islam is an extremely totalitarian cult rather than a faith-based religion.

    Indeed, there are many people who identify themselves as Muslims who have no interest in waging jihad against unbelievers, but would prefer to hold down their jobs and take care of their families in peace in the same way as there are millions of people who identify themselves as believers in other religions who are not particularly concerned with living out every teaching of the religion with which they identify.

    No, no, no, that’s very incorrect and contradictory here. Not to mention as well, that Spencer is actually morally equating and conflating Islam, which is a very totalitarian cult, with being a true faith-based religion. Any person who identifies his or her self as a Muslim and who has no interest in waging jihad against unbelievers because they prefer to live a Western lifestyle instead, even if they consider themselves to be a Muslim, per the texts and tenets of Islam, are blasphemous apostates that must be executed. The texts and tenets of Islam are quite clear in that regard.

    While I hold Spencer in high regard, he is taking very unwarranted liberties with the texts and tenets of Islam in this particular case to pretend that there are some moderate Muslims, which is utterly suicidal in the long-term for Western society. I guess that’s how he justifies remaining silent about mass Muslim immigration to the West, which is really stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad for the strategic purpose of demographic conquest.

    Indeed, it is kind of strange that he would advocate that Muslims, like adherents of true faith-based religions, could live a very blasphemous lifestyle totally contradictory to the texts and tenets of Islam, and still remain a Muslim at the same time, especially when you consider the fact that Islam is a very totalitarian cult that forbids the freedom of conscience via the penalty of death for blasphemy and apostasy unlike any true faith based religions, but there you have it, he just did it and it is the one true fault in Spencer’s otherwise impeccable scholarship.

    Not to mention that blasphemous apostates are in reality really disbelievers. Thus, all that subsequent citation of the texts and tenets of Islam he produced also apply to them as well, which is very contradictory as well.

    Now, on the other hand, if he didn’t make that one concession to the truth, he probably would have been branded a racist and an extremist a long time ago and at the same time would have been ostracized and marginalized relentlessly forever by the Left, which includes the so-called MSM. Thus, I have to wonder if that prospective reality is behind this one fatal concession to the truth.

    • Gee

      If they do – I hope that he sues the government for violating his Constitutional rights

  • Walter Sieruk

    The apologists for Islam actually call Islam a “peaceful religion.” this is the claim the make. To have a short reality check of just two of the many places in the Quran that teach violence and killing are, for example, in Sura 9:112 which teaches “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.” Likewise, Sura 47:4 instructs “Whenever you encounter the unbelievers, strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter among them…” Using jet aircrafts as missles and bombs as on September 11, 2001 can make a greater “slaughter among them” then a sword can. Some “peaceful religon.”
    Moreover, all this does being to mind the wisdom of the words of Thomas Paine from his book THE AGE OF REASON which reads “Any system of religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child cannot be a true system.”

  • John Davidson

    The Muslim doctrine is one of the main reasons our constitution instituted the separation of church from the state. At the time it was instituted, many religions sought to dominate nations, but most relented except for the Islamists.

    • Gee

      The Constitution has no such provision – you might want to actually read the Constitution.

      Islam had nothing to do with the Constitution in anyway whatsoever. It was written based on Masonic ideals – which were based in Talmudic commentaries.

    • M Ab

      Is that why Ben Franklin and Pres. THomas Jefferson had their very own copies, could the quran have influenced them even a little?

      • ziggy zoggy

        They never molested any boys, stoned any women or murdered babies, so no, they weren’t influenced by the Koran.

        • hiernonymous

          8 Catholic dioceses have declared bankruptcy in settling their sex abuse cases. Seems that there are an awful lot of priests secretly living by the Qur’an.

          Who knew?

          • Lea

            Perhaps the muslims have infiltrated the church along with other agents of the devil.

        • M Ab

          both were documented slaveowners and both are complicit on rape and childmolestation etc.

          • ziggy zoggy

            And Democrats love America.

          • defcon 4

            So was Muhammad, your most holey psychopath and Jew hater.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Mad Arab,

            I guess I missed the stories about Franklin and Jefferson raping kiddies – you lunatic. And I don’t remember Franklin owning any slaves, but what rational person cares? Slavery was legal during their lifetimes. The historical accomplishments of the Founding Fathers utterly surpasses any of their flaws.

          • hiernonymous

            “The historical accomplishments of the Founding Fathers utterly surpasses any of their flaws.”

            Read: “It’s my double standard and I’ll excuse who I want to.”

          • defcon 4

            Dear hypocritical. lying muslime, which countries have legalized slavery in the 21st century? Big hint: they’re ALL muslime.

      • Gee

        Jefferson and Franklin got those AFTER the Constitution was written. Because of the Muslim pirates – no they were not influenced by them in the least.

  • Kafir911

    Excellent response by Spencer…..as always. There is also an 18 page summary with 527 examples of intolerance in the Quran by the “Skeptics Annotated Quran” available on-line. The better educated we are the better we are able to counter the stealth jihadists such as CAIR, ISNA, the MSA and so on. Too bad we also have to counter the Islamists who have infiltrated the Obama Administration thanks to the Muslim & Marxist President himself..

  • 2wotvet

    Another great article from the Honorable Dr. Spencer. Islam is a scourge upon Western Civilization and humanity itself. The wicked savagery commanded in the Koran is unspeakable evil….the exact opposite of what Christianity and Judaism, the great pillars of Western Civilization, have commanded. Christians have always allowed for religious equality wherever they have lived. They have never persecuted Jews the way Muslims have! The Holocaust was inspired
    by ISLAM, which Hitler embraced in his insane bid for power, and not Christianity. Christians and Jews have always allowed for women to be treated equally and respectfully. Unlike the pedophile rapist Mohammed who forced himself upon the baby girl Aisha, Abraham took care to pleasure Sarah for 15 minutes before they copulated and Moses ate strawberries with Zipporah before he touched her. The Bible has no violent chapters in it, and has inspired the Wealth of Nations and the Declaration of Independents. The Koran has inspired the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf.

    • madge hirsch

      Rubbish. You need to read a bit more about the history of Christianity. At one time it was a matter of ecclesiastical debate as to whether women even had souls. Jews were regularly massacred in pogroms by Christians after being accused of spreading plague, poisoning wells or kidnapping Christian children to use their blood for matzos.

      • iluvisrael

        But Christianity has a reformation. Atrocities committed today are, with very few exceptions, done in the name of islam – the terrorists say it loud and clear.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Mindless attempt to equate Christianity to Islam denied.

        • hiernonymous

          Denial is a maladaptive defense mechanism, not a tool of logic. You may personally choose to ignore such events, but you can’t wish them away or make them irrelevant by fiat.

          • defcon 4

            In the 21st century (i.e. in the here and now), your puerile attempts to equate Christianity to islam0nazism are FAIL.

      • defcon 4

        LOL, what a maroon. There was an Egyptian television documentary that presented, as historical fact, the blood libel lie against Jews. I haven’t heard ANYONE Christian re-iterate the blood libel lies against Jews EVER.

        • Gee

          Like the Copts or the Russian Church? Or perhaps the Church of Scotland?

          The Christian blood libels against us continue to this day.

          • defcon 4

            I’d like to see some proof of your statements. As far as the Egyptian “documentary” goes, I can look that up on MEMRI anytime you want to see it’s perverted, libelous anti-semitism.

          • Gee

            Libelous? You must be kidding. Try taking a 10 second tour of the internet

            The Coptic Pope Shenouda III continues to regularly deliver anti-Semitic sermons and calls Jews “Christ-killers.” And, in July 2008, he told Egypt’s Al-Ahram newspaper:
            “Jews are a cursed people who have their hands indulged in the blood of Palestinians.”

            An article by an Egyptian Christian writer, Emile Amin, that was published both in Egypt and in the UAE decries (false) reports that Copts are seeking asylum in Israel as well as the true stories that Copts have traveled to Israel to visit holy places.

            In order to dissuade this awful “normalization,” Amin stoops to classic Jew-hatred:
            “The Jews are the primary enemy for the Christians, who have been suffering from them for seven centuries before Islam. The Jewish Talmud shows the spirit according to which Jews should behave towards
            Christians: “You can, nay, you must kill the best among the Christians.”

            “And what are the Freemasonry and other global organizations anyway, if not secret organizations which were established in 33 AD in order to fight Christianity which was developing secretly, after the Jews couldn’t fight it in the open?”

            Pope Shenouda in anti-Semitic outburst
            Monday, 21st May 2007. 10:55am

            By: George Conger.

            THE LEADER of the Coptic Church, Pope Shenouda III of Alexandria told Egyptian television last month the Western Churches were wrong to exonerate Jews for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, and criticised recent statements apologising for Christian anti-Semitism.

            In an interview with Dream 2 TV broadcast on April 8, Shenouda was asked if the Coptic Church would
            follow the lead of the Western Christian churches. Shenouda responded that the Christian Churches had “done nothing that warrants an apology,” adding he believed the apologies were being “done for appearance’s sake.”

            Asked whether Jews were “Christ-killers”, responsible for
            the crucifixion, Shenouda stated, “The New Testament says that they are,” and asked rhetorically whether the Vatican was “against the teachings of the New Testament?”

            Shenouda stated he had banned Copts from visiting Israel for fear they will “be influenced by the Israeli media, and we will not be able to prevent this. Who knows what ideas they will return with?”

            I can come up with another 66,000+ examples if you wish

          • defcon 4

            Um, WRT the Coptic Pope he’s speaking from an islam0fascist state where there is no freedom of speech. Supporting Israel publicly from an islam0fascist state wouldn’t be a healthy or sane thing to do if you want to continue breathing. Why don’t YOU try going to Egypt and publicly supporting Israel or Jews on the streets of Cairo and see what it gets you?

          • Gee

            When he made those statements Egypt was under a SECULAR military dictatorship. The Copts were at the forefront of the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Egypt.

            Tahrir Square – was the middle of the Jewish Quarter in Cairo.

            By the way the Copts do live in the Middle East and the only place that they have religious as well as political freedom happens to be Israel

          • defcon 4

            “Secular military muslim dictatorship”. Do you think under Mubarak you would have been allowed to criticise islam?

          • Gee

            You were the person that requested these quotes and now that you have them – you decide that Egyptian Coptic religious leaders were not free to say them?

            Most telling about you not them. Those statements were never forced

          • defcon 4

            You didn’t answer my question about your “secular dictatorship”. Were you allowed to criticise islam under Mubarak?

          • Gee

            Yes they were as a matter of fact

          • defcon 4

            Sorry, I don’t believe you.

          • Lea

            Your pathetic and ridiculous attempt to attack Christianity and thereby excuse the muslims, is an indictment on the fact that jews appear to prefer muslims to Christians as an American survey showed. Jews appear to be their own worst enemy.

          • defcon 4
    • Gee

      Actually the difference between Christianity and Islam when comes to the Jews is so tiny that it defies separation.

      The ethnic cleansing of Jews from Christian countries predates Islam by hundreds of years. Pogroms, the Inquisition, the Crusades all on part and parcel of the history of Christianity.

      To us Jews the cross is little different than the swastika. Both are symbols of the hate that has been forced on us.

      The Tanach has many violent chapters, not as calls to commit violence – but to state that they did happen. We are not proud of that – but to deny it makes us no better than the Muslims or Christians

      • defcon 4

        “Actually the difference between Christianity and Islam when comes to the Jews is so tiny that it defies separation.” Wow, do you actually believe that statement applies to the 21st century? Just an FYI, over a million Christians died fighting the Nazis, incl. my great uncle. How many f’ing muslimes died fighting for the Nazis as opposed to against them? BTW, there is evidence to suggest the Arab Legion was complicit in the pogrom committed in Baghdad.

        • Gee

          Yes I sure do – just look at the Church of Scotland that advocates for genocide and ethnic cleansing of Jews.

          Not one nation lost a single soldier to protect the Jews in World War 2. They fought because the Germans attack them. All the while aiding the Nazis keep the Jews in their camps, even to the point of sending refugees BACK to Germany after they knew about the death camps.

          You Christians have a long ways to go.

          • defcon 4

            Then move to an islamic state, where, increasingly, you’ll never be bothered by those evil Christians EVER again.

          • Gee

            Am an Israeli thank you. I have no intention of ever living in either a Christian or Islamic state

          • defcon 4

            Just out of curiosity, do you think everyone non-Jewish should be deported and/or expelled from Israel?

          • Gee

            Absolutely NOT!!!! No Israelis regardless of religion, race, gender, or place of origin should be deported or expelled.

            Non-citizens that are non-legal residents should be deported.

            Does that answer your question?

          • defcon 4

            I’m surprised by your response.

          • Gee

            Why – ask 100 Israelis and over 95 of them will say the exact same thing? You don’t know much about us it seems

          • defcon 4

            Who started the Mt. Carmel fires? Christians again?

          • Lea

            How sure are you that they were not muslims in disguise, or just godless goy?

          • ziggy zoggy

            You haven’t provided a single story of Christians persecuting Jews, much less committing genocide. Just because a Coptic “pope” living as a dhimmie in Egypt calls Jews Christ Killers doesn’t mean anybody is persecuting them. Anti-Semitism is not persecution. it is simple bigotry. Your comments are more than a little ridiculous.

          • Gee

            Do you really need to be lead by the hand? Are your reading skills that feeble. Hum I thought better.

            I stated and continue to state that Christians are supporting genocide and ethnic cleansing of Jews. That is what I said – try comprehending what I say.

            They fund Arab terrorism – they provide political support, they fund organizations that attempt to usurp the elected Israeli government.

            This was published by the Church of Scotland in 2003

            “2.3.3 The establishment of the state of Israel and everything that accompanied and followed it entailed a
            massive loss of land and property by Christians and Muslims alike. This has been the cause of the deepest
            resentment and rejection, and it has been the major factor differentiating Israel from previous ruling powers.
            “Conquerors come and conquerors go”, is a saying in Jerusalem, but Zionism is something different, as it is seen to be bent on complete and lasting dispossession. Israel has respected the Christian holy places and,
            generally speaking, Church property. With growing nationalist Palestinian sentiment and the indigenisation of Church leadership ecumenical relations have improved, but the hierarchies’ relations with the State of
            Israel have become more fraught. There is a current dispute between the State and the Greek Orthodox Church, which has much to do with land since many State buildings are built on land leased from that
            church. Now the leases have run out, and there is immense pressure on the Church by its people not to compromise church land any further.”

            Tell me again how that is not anti-semitic.

          • defcon 4

            There are other Christian groups who support Israel. What
            about the Neturei Karta?

          • Lea

            I can tell you now, without a shadow of doubt that the Christians who are against Israel are apostate since it is destined for Israel to exist as a sovereign nation according to the Bible. There may be people who are branded Christians but they are not walking in the Holy Spirit when they carry out crimes against innocent people. There are elements in this middle eastern church that are opposed to Israel, and you will find corruptible men influenced by money.

          • ziggy zoggy

            How are ethnic Slav criminals worse than islamopithecines?

          • Lea

            In both the Jewish and Greek traditions that Philo
            inherited, this problem was solved by a model of the world in which God was separated from the created universe by a series of intermediaries.

            These were thought of as divine forces, agencies or persons.
            The main intermediary was the Logos.
            The Greek Stoic philosophers had made much of the concept of Logos from the time of early Platonism onward.

            Philo saw Greek tradition as simply another expression of the references to Wisdom in Job 28, Proverbs 1–9, The Wisdom of Ben Sirach, Baruch and other literature in the Hebrew tradition.

            Philo understood the Logos to be responsible for creating the material universe, supervising it providentially and redeeming it.

            For Philo, Logos was God’s rationality, both in God’s own
            mind and in the rational structure of creation.

            Sophia was the understanding that God has and that humans acquire when they discover God’s Logos in all things.

            Philo, on occasion, allegorically refers to Logos/Sophia as an angel and, rarely, as a “second God.” In his exposition of Genesis 17 (describing God’s covenant with Abraham), he characterizes God as a trinity of
            agencies.

          • defcon 4

            “You Christians” being whom?

          • ziggy zoggy

            Roosevelt did not know about the Nazi death camps. That is the sort of whacko conspiracy theory that somebody like Diana West would like. And the American soldiers who liberated those camps were horrified by what they saw. After the first one was liberated, Allied Central Command knew what to expect and acted accordingly.

            By the way, most of the Nazis who manned those camps were executed on the spot by American soldiers (Christians and Jews) or handed over to the liberated prisoners for summary justice.

          • Lea

            Wherever you find this anti jew phenomenon, you must look for the muslim in disguise.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Christians do not persecute Jews. You cannot use the past to describe the present.

        • Gee

          How about today? The persecution of Jews in Europe is the highest since 1945 right now.

          No sir – the Eurotrash haven’t changed one iota

          • defcon 4

            To call Europe a Christian continent in the 21st century is laughable. To blame Christians for the persecution of Jews in Sweden is nothing more than a lie.

          • Gee

            I have stated that CHRISTIAN CHURCHES are calling for and aiding Muslims in ethnic cleansing and genocide of Jews TODAY. I have offered examples of that EXACT action and yet you continue to ignore that why?

            This is on going yet we have statements like “Christians do not persecute Jews” yet when I show that they do I get denial. Ignoring facts doesn’t make them go away.

            As for Europe most countries still have Christian State Religions, so yes they are.

            Instead of going into denial I would think that you would be against those Churches are doing it. It is happening that is a fact – we cannot change them – only Christians have that influence.

          • defcon 4

            Do the majority of people in Western Europe identify themselves as Christian? I doubt it. I’ve come across Christian antisemitism before, but I’ve never personally heard anyone Christian advocate for ethnic cleansing and/or persecution of Jews.

          • Gee

            Try the internet – it is everywhere

          • defcon 4

            “everywhere” eh? Robert Spencer wrote this piece and he’s never advocated for persecution of Jews. Neither has David Wood. Both of them are Christians.

          • Gee

            Correct – nor was my comment toward all Christians. It was a statement that some Christian Churches do in fact advocate the persecution of Jews.

            Something you said is NOT happening. Denial is not going to work here. I can show a thousand examples of direct quotes from Christian leaders.

            That is not to say that all or even a majority of Christians are doing it. But it is happening.

            We have some very bigoted Rabbis too – I denounce them with equal vigor. All I ask is that you look at the Christians that do advocate persecution in a similar vein.

          • defcon 4

            Would that be in Eastern Europe? Because not even the Coptic Pope advocated for persecution. I’d like to hear if Raymond Ibrahim has anything to say about the Coptic Pope’s remarks as well.

          • Lea

            You simply cannot blame churches for being anti Jew, when there are a great deal of very influential Jews who are openly attacking Christianity, with atheism and communism, and spawning corruption in society. Everyone has the right to think as they do, but not one of these churches are calling for the destruction of Israel, and if they are then they have been infiltrated by arab muslims working for the Palestinian cause, which is Islamic expansion and the koranic incited destruction of the Jews.

          • Lea

            The Jews are being disingenuous, they know very well that it is the muslims that are hunting them down and attacking them, but they would prefer to blame the Christians.

          • ziggy zoggy

            Euro trash are atheists and you know it. C’mon. Christians help Jews defend themselves. You know it.

          • Lea

            There are still a lot of Christians in Europe, the problem is that they are so pacifist that they are incapable of even defending their own lives and loved ones, never mind the country or the continent.

          • Julean

            Jewish hatred in Europe is rising because the muslims are increasing. Jews are currently leaving France and the Ukraine because of the direct attack by the Nazi muslims. It is mainly muslims, and insane KKK members who masquerade as Christians who are virulently anti Jew. Talmudic Jews and atheist jews are definitely not entirely innocent when it comes to things like communism and their drive for a one world government which is exactly where, once again in history, the muslims and the Marxists are in alliance, for their both seek global domination.

      • Lea

        What you need to realise is that an ebionite jew tutored the false prophet of Arabia and that the Koran bears a striking resemblance to the Babylonian Talmud. It may well be that the Talmudic jews created islam to wage war on Christians. And indeed, the jews called for the muslims and collaborated with them in the invasion of Christian lands. They were converted to islam, and joined the muslim army in the intent to destroy Europe. Today, it is being asserted that the Jews are doing this once again, by endorsing and promoting and enforcing multiculturism upon the Christian Europe and America. Maybe just like we are having major problems with the muslims, we may have been experiencing the same infiltration and corruption and destruction of our western civilisation from the Jews. I am certain that Christians then felt the same way as they do today, they were just more in tune with the truth about the Jewish hatred, which is exactly like the muslim hatred, for Christians. They both hate the cross and it is not because of persecution, it is because they reject Jesus.

    • randy

      Spencer is a joke. Look at the abuse and persecution suffered by native americans at the hands of the christians who stole and occupy thier lands to this day!

      • Lea

        Well, then we have to bring to your attention that Islam waged genocide and converted millions to islam from the Indus to Spain and then some, a bloody, savage, brutal war of such magnitude it left humanity reeling for a thousand years in the Dark Ages, which Islam is responsible for. Slavery, looting, rape and depravity was the name of the game for islam. Whereas the advanced western civilisation that you enjoy today, in refuge from your Islamic hellhole of a country, is based upon the Christian framework. Christianity uplifts peoples whereas islam degrades humanity, for a prime example just look at Somalia where islam has ruled for almost 1400 years already.

  • Elijah Burke

    David wrote of the “perfection” of God’s law, and praised the sureness of His word and testimony (Psalm 19). Certainly baal has no counter argument. Baal is merely a construct of idolatry. And though I understand and appreciate the effort to expose the truth, let us always give place in our rhetoric to the immutable and praise worthy treasure of God’s Word. It does not return void.

  • bleedinell

    Just a matter of time before we start cleaning our country.
    Islam is pure evil.
    I tell all the libtards I still reluctantly associate with that to tolerate a religion that is bent on destroying you is like tolerating cancer.

    • defcon 4

      I’ve disassociated myself from such trash. Apologists for islam0fascism are no better than collaborators.

  • USARetired

    All one has to to is simply read a copy of the Qur’an, and you will discover as I did, It is a recipe book for criminal behavior and hate of all infidels! It does not qualify as a religious edifice!

    • Lea

      I was utterly horrified by the Koran and even more by the sunna and hadiths. Definitely hate speech against humanity, even the poor muslims who also victims of Islam.

  • bungicord

    Arguing with Muslims is fruitless. They either believe in the Koran and follow it,or they don’t believe in the Koran but are afraid to defy it. Either way they are enemies, who demand our obedience or our death. The reason they have reached protective status is Obama who is one of them. So next election instead of a feel good vote for a low info bro, vote for a guy who will treat the sandnigs as the enemies they are. Otherwise quit whining and kneel to allah.

    • defcon 4

      Um, you know there are a lot of muslimes who aren’t Arabic at all, and who don’t live in the Mid-East or N. Africa. There are many white muslimes in Eastern Europe and Russia. Most muslimes are NOT Arabic.

      • Lea

        But arab muslims are the elite of the elite of the supremacist racist imperialist pagan death cult of Arabia.

  • glpage

    Being hateful to kafir is not hateful because the Koran demands it. Yeah, right…

  • Bob Wills

    Any tecahing that opposes Jesus Christ is evil. There is only One God and His Son is Jesus Christ. The ONLY way to the Father is Jesus. Rekect Jesus as the Son of God and you reject the only Truth that can save you from judgement.

    • Gee

      Then I am evil. I believe in G-d and G-d only. If you have an issue with that – TFB

      • Bob Wills

        Out of your own mouth friend. So you are rejecting Jesus Christ as the Son of God. And you are saying that His death on the cross meant nothing. I am not the one with the issue. You will have to take that up with Jesus when you kneel before Him. By the way, you will profess Him as Lord and Savior. Either you will do it out of acceptenance here while He gives you a chance or right before He judges you on that very merit.

        • Gee

          I kneel before no man – EVER. Keep your religion to yourself – I have no need of your savior. For I have the L-rd or L-rds. I want or need no other

          • Bob Wills

            Jesus was fully man and fully God at the same time. You will kneel before Him. You depend on Him for your next breath. I feel so sorry for you.

          • Gee

            Sorry – I follow the Ten Commandments. I have but one that I call G-d and there is nothing to be sorry about.

            Was good enough for Abraham, Moses and King David – it’s good enough for me

          • Bob Wills

            So the God that you follow, you are rejecting His Son. I don’t think that is going to work out very well for you.

          • Lea

            Jews created Islam. Ironic, ain’t it? To wage war on Christians.

    • M Ab

      According to John4:1-2, Jesus said that whoever testifies of me is of God and God told Mohammed in 3:45 of quran that Jesus is the Word of God and closest to Him in Heaven. God also told Mohammed to protect the houses of worship , churches and synagogues in the quran and also, God told his arab prophet that all life comes from water and that He split the universe assunder 21:30, if not from God, where did quran come from?

      • ziggy zoggy

        I have no doubt that lil’ Mo heard voices in his flea infested head, but it wasn’t God.

      • defcon 4

        What about the Satanic Verses? Muhammad said that Satan was speaking to him at some point. Which verses were Satanic and which weren’t?

      • Drakken

        God didn’t tell that murdering rapist Mohamed anything, the devil might have whispered something in his ear or he was nuttier than a fruitcake. Take your pick, but as sure as I am standing here, God had nothing to do with it.

      • WeMustResist

        Where did the quran come from? From humans. The main human was Mohammed but he had help from his Christian scribe, and others. Why would God write a book? The one who made everything needs to instruct humans in just one book? The book is all about Mohammed. It has nothing to help anyone else in the world.

        • Lea

          Actually, the scribe was a Ebionite Jew and the Koran bears a striking resemblance to the Babylonian Talmud. Islam may have been created by the Talmudic Jews to wage war on christiantiy but then it backfired seriously.

      • seawasp

        Why did one of muhammads scribes reject islam and flee, only for muhammad to hunt him down and kill him? Seems to me muhammad made up a lot of bogus sayings to suit his evil life..

      • Lea

        I think what mo meant to say is that without water nothing survives, and since he was a desert man, he should know. But the spark of life and intelligence does not originate from water but from the spirit of God. Odd how it is that even today, Egypt, 85 churches were attacked and severely damaged along with some Christians too. And even in Syria and Iraq the ancient churches and synagogues are being destroyed today by muslims who are practising a more pure form of islam than what you are since they are emulating their false prophet. Islam is to be banned soon because its members are behaving like politicians not peaceful religionists but aggressive dominators.

  • zoomie

    So, the 1st amendment is toast ? Thank You ” County Government “.

    • Lea

      There are some politicians that are stating that Islam should not be granted the first amendment rights since, although it may present some features that mimim a religion, it is not, it is a political movement with a militant global domination ideology. Support those people, and vote for them. You can stand up to this defilers of western democratic freedoms. Islam is communism with a god.

  • Stendec

    There is a reason England and Europe engaged in the Crusades a thousand years ago, reason from which we today have, unfortunately, learned nothing, and “those who do not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.”

  • popseal

    The personal lives of Mohammed and his first disciples answers the question. Islam is a dangerous superstition founded by a known killer. CAIR, CNN, PBS, and DHIMMI Bloomberg’s host of Islamic apologists can not tell the truth.

  • ratonis

    Islam is disgusting.

  • WeMustResist

    The clearest call to hate in the Koran comes in Surah 60 verse 4. “…there has arisen between us (ie Muslims) and you (ie non-Muslims) hostility and hate forever until you believe in Allah only…” Those are said to be the words of Abraham to non-Muslims. Jibril , on the command of Allah, quotes those words with approval to Mohammed. The verses starts by saying “There is a goodly pattern for you in Abraham, when they …(declared their hatred of non-Muslims)”. So the hatred is to come from the Muslims and last either forever or until the kafirs convert to Islam, whichever comes first.

  • mrsoriordan

    Yes we do have Christian extremists – to name but a few – St. Francis of Assisi, St. Anthony of Padua, Mother Teresa of Calcutta, St. Anthony of the desert and on and on over the centuries, men and women who practiced Christian virtue in a heroic manner. But then we have just the ordinary everyday Christian who is trained to know that love of God and love of neighbour is the rule of life. We struggle with that, but we acknowledge it as what we are trying to aim at. Sometimes we succeed, sometimes we fall short but we all know it is our core teaching. – Rene

  • Michal

    bravo

  • defcon 4

    Gee, pederasty is entirely legal in Iran, Pakistain and Afghanistan. As is the marriage of pre-pubescent girls against their will.

    • hiernonymous

      Non-responsive. Ziggy has claimed that those crimes were unique to Islam. Since we know them to have occurred in Catholic dioceses, we are left with two possiblities: that Ziggy is flat-out wrong, or that the Catholics are secretly Muslim.

      Did you have something to offer on that, or would you like to offer another distraction?

      • defcon 4

        Duh, the Catholic priests have been charged, arrested and convicted for their crimes, unlike the pederasts and child molesters in the muslime states of Afghanistan, Pakistain and Iran.

        • hiernonymous

          Really – have they all been? Last I checked, a big part of the scandal was the fact that the Catholic Church – that’s the Christian part of this equation, remember – worked actively for decades to keep this quiet. It was a Boston Globe expose that got the ball rolling. I wouldn’t use this as a big pat on the back for how much better Christianity deals with this sort of misbehavior.

          • defcon 4

            When was the last time a pederast was arrested for buggering little boys in Afghanistan, Iran or Pakistain? When was the last time a pedophile was arrested after raping his unwilling pre-pubescent wife in Yemen or Afghanistan?

          • hiernonymous

            There’s no denying that awful things happen in the hinterlands. It’s not unique to that part of the world, and, more importantly, you haven’t shown it to be a function of Islam. You have strictly conservative tribal societies in which women are taboo, and are approached at the risk of one’s life; no doubt it’s warped and terrible, but it’s a tribal, not a religious, function. You seem to have forgotten some of the stories that used to circulate about Appalachia, Greece, and even the Royal Navy (“Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash”).

            Your basic problem is that you are so obsessed with Islam that you’ve lost all ability to judge what you see with any degree of objectivity. You live in a simplistic world in which Islam is responsible for all evil, and that if it were gone, things would just be hunky dory. That ignores that fact that all of the crimes you describe happened before Islam; they happen today outside the world of Islam; and when they happen in the Muslim world, it’s not always – or even predominately – because of Islam. You’re latching on to simple explanations because they excuse you from grappling with complexity and with the possibility that you and your own are not as virtuous as you like to think.

            I prefer the approach that suggests we fix that which is ours to fix. I noted that there are 8 dioceses of the Catholic Church in the U.S. that are bankrupt because of the scope of the payments they had to make while their priests abused young boys, and the Catholic Church – the Christian government of those priests, as opposed to the secular authority of the U.S. Government – covered it up. Hard to find a lot of moral superiority in Christianity for the sorts of crimes that have you frothing.

          • Lea

            Perhaps they were more concerned about the stigma that would be attached to them. Just goes to show that what is done in the darkness will certainly be exposed and this applies to people who pretend they are Christians and then bring the church in disrepute, nevertheless, nothing can change the fact that Jesus Chris is sinless as God. and mo is a sinful mortal man who is responsible for spawning a pagan death cult that degrades, deceives and destroys.

        • hiernonymous

          Duh, indeed. They were not arrested by their Christian leadership in the church, which actively sought to cover up its crimes. If you’re trying to compare Islam with Christianity, then compare apples to apples, and that means looking at the active interference by the Catholic Church in the search for justice against those priests.

          • defcon 4

            The Catholic Church eventually cooperated w/the investigations and has taken steps to stop the further occurrence of it. Meanwhile, in the islam0nazi states of Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistain pederasty goes on unabated.

          • hiernonymous

            “The Catholic Church eventually cooperated w/the investigations…”

            The key word being ‘eventually.’ The difference was not in the nature of the religion, it was in the fact that the Church was forced to cooperate by the actions of actors outside the church.

            You’ll also find that the sorts of things you’re complaining about existed in the tribal societies of the region prior to Islam – and that, in fact, one of the reasons Islam gained such traction was because it demanded reforms in such behaviors. You continue to try to single out a particular religion for behavior that is found everywhere, and that is brought into check, not by religion, but by urbanization and the establishment of effective central authority.

          • Julean

            You have consistently ignored the fact that Islam promotes child sex, and slavery, to the extent that it is actual Islamic sharia law. You lie and say that Islam sought to reform these pre-Islamic practices and attempt to equate this evil in men with Christianity itself. The facts remain that in Islam these evil practises are condoned and legislated as permissible in society. Neither Christianity nor the advanced western civilisation does this, the fact remains, it is legislated as a crime in our western civilisation that is founded on within the framework of Christian ethics. We not only legislate it as a crime we also enforce the law as well. Whereas the prevailing lawlessness in muslim countries is the lay of the land and everyone becomes a victim in a society where everyone is a predator, exactly attributable to sharia islam, which is based on the Koran, the life of the profit, and the hadiths. To maintain differently, is to merely do what muslims do best, and that is lie to defend the indefensible.

          • Lea

            You could say that there was a pedophile gang operating in the church for a time. But they have been bust and the incidences are now almost non existent.

      • Lea

        There is a difference here. I believe that what these so called priests are doing is done in secret. Whilst the muslims openly practise the crime as if it were a virtue simply because their false arab profit did these things, and it is now part of the Islamic sharia law. Big difference. This type of behaviour is criminal in the western Christian world.

  • USARetired

    The entire Islamic movement is a most despicable, crime wave, in the world, and certainly does not qualify as a religion! It is a “Fascist Ideology” forged by a lunatic in the 6th century!

  • Slamdunk

    When you rearrange six of the seven letters in LIBERAL, you find whose influence they are under, as are all who reject Christ – BELIAL (1 Cor. 6:15), the LIAR in Chief (John 8:44).

  • SatanMasquerades

    Robert Dear – Please correct the Satan Masquerades article on JihadWatch to 2 Corinthians. You have it as 1 Corinthians. GOD BLESS YOU friend, brother and ever so brilliant loving Crusader for truth, mercy and life. Love: http://BanIslamNOW.com (Mat 5.11, John 16.2)

  • ziggy zoggy

    Some Priests are pederasts, not pedophiles, and the Catholic Church condones neither deviancy. Islam worships it.

    The Founding Fathers were not pederasts, pedophiles or islamopithecines. I know you are all those things because you always defend them, but Americans are disgusted by Iranian scum like you.

    • hiernonymous

      “…and the Catholic Church condones neither deviancy. Islam worships it.”

      Neither contention squares with the facts. The Catholic Church most certainly condoned it, to the extent that it prevented its priests from facing justice.

      • defcon 4

        What about the three, “authentic” hadith of islam that call for the extermination of Jews?

        • hiernonymous

          I don’t know of any that call for extermination of the Jews. I know of some that get into Muslim eschatology, based on the idea that when Misah al Dajjal (like the Antichrist) comes, the Mahdi will prepare the Muslim’s Army, and Jesus will lead it against the followers of the Dajjal. At that time, the Jews will either have converted to Islam or follow the Dajjal, and Muhammad described the final fight against them.

          Not too different from Christian eschatology, that also describes a final showdown between the faithful and everyone else.

          No call for genocide that I’ve seen.

          • defcon 4

            I’m sure you’re not aware of the fact that all your various islam0fascist misery theme parks persecute people of other faiths either.

            Bukhari:V4B52N177
            “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘You Muslims will fight the Jews till some of them hide behind stones. The stones will betray them saying, “O Abdullah (slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.”‘”

            Ishaq:441
            “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”‘”

            In Sahih Muslim: Book 041, Number 6985:
            Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

          • hiernonymous

            That’s eschatology; the end times. You don’t seem to be aware that Christianity, too, claims that there is a final battle to the death between the faithful and the unfaithful. In Muslim eschatology, Jesus returns from heaven to lead the Muslim armies against those who follow the Misah al Dajjal (roughly equivalent to the Antichrist in Christian eschatology), and the Jewish people by then will have either joined the faithful or will be following the Dajjal.

            Sorry, not a call for genocide – and not in the Qur’an, either, btw.

            Speaking of theme parks persecuting people of other faiths, when did Germany become Muslim? The Holocaust is still pretty much the gold standard for persecution of people of another faith, and I’m pretty sure Auschwitz wasn’t run by Muslims.

          • Lea

            The reason the focus is on Islam and the muslims is because Islam is the only religion that is waging a war on many different levels with the goal of muslim domination over non muslims. Muslims are the reason for the epic fail of the multi-culturalism experiment. And we know full well of the barbaric savagery that these muslims are perpetrating to expand this pagan death cult. The evidence is overwhelming.

      • ziggy zoggy

        Wtf?! The Catholic Church demonstrably does NOT preach pedophilia or pederastsy, and does not condone it. In the past it wrongly tried to protect its reputation by shielding guilty Priests from civil prosecution, but it NEVER condoned their crimes.

        My ex wife is a non practicing islamopithecine and I couldn’t care less what that filthy animal thinks.

        • hiernonymous

          And Islam preaches pedophilia and pederasty?

          “In the past it wrongly tried to protect its reputation by shielding guilty Priests from civil prosecution…”

          Well, as long as it had a good excuse, that’s different then. Not.

          “My ex wife is a non practicing islamopithecine and I couldn’t care less what that filthy animal thinks.”

          Ah, now we’re starting to understand your hostility. You wanted her so badly you were willing to betray your own conscience and religion, and now she’s gone, and you hate Muslims with a pathological intensity. What an interesting and sad story.

          • ziggy zoggy

            You really are a pathetic stalker. I know plenty of people want to orbit my magnificence, but self loathing ret@rds like you are the worst.

            There is no Catholic doctrine of rape, misogyny, pedophilia or genocide. Islam tries to canonize those atrocities…….and more.

            My ex-wife is a non entity. I don’t give her any more consideration than an islamopithecine like you. I have hated you islamopithecine animals since the day I discovered literacy.

            Go fuck yourself. You already fucked your mother and sister, so complete the circle.

          • hiernonymous

            “My ex-wife is a non entity.”

            At one point, you found her so attractive and desirable that you were willing to sacrifice your integrity for her; and she has since rejected you. No wonder you have so much ill-will toward her people.

            “I have hated you islamopithecine animals since the day I discovered literacy.”

            Well of course you hate – that’s been obvious from the get-go. What I’ve been trying to make clear is that you’ve got nothing to offer except hate, and that your hate is inconsequential to everyone except you. Perhaps having discovered literacy, you could set it as a personal goal, and rise above your hate.

            “Go fuck yourself. You already fucked your mother and sister, so complete the circle”

            You see? That’s all you’ve really had to say all along – it’s good you’ve stopped trying to dress it up in language you half understand.

          • Lea

            Well there you go, trying desperately to avoid facing the fact that the Koran is hate speech against humanity. Yet, no matter what levels of deceit and evasion you stoop to there is no denying that Islam is a militant political ideology masquerading as a religion, and a Abrahamic one a that, which it simply claims without evidence.

      • Lea

        Satan is sometimes exalted in mere mortal men, much like the false profit of islam, whom mulsims are called to emulate. Yet, you do not find this as part of the Christian scriptures, but in the Islamic scriptures, which is not only the Koran, but also the sunna and hadith, glorify sexual deviancy and rape. Christians strive to emulate Jesus Christ, sinless as God.

  • blunt as truth

    Robert Spencer they call you a researcher and i call you son of bitch

    • defcon 4

      I call you a son of a donkey.

    • Lea

      The normal muslim foulness.

  • Jesus

    OK I’m OK with the above, all I ask is that you fuck of to your’e Islamic country and live there and leave the rest of us to get on with our non Islamic lives.
    Religion is for uneducated fools!

  • islam

    I think all of you do.not.know who.muhammed was pbuh he is the best man walked in this earth ..before you talk about islam and the voilent sides in islam . please read the bible and you will see that in the bible there is some part talks about vailent too. and I think or I am sure that most of non-muslim do not know what ( jihad) means because there is.many definition of it.

    • Lea

      The violence in the Bible is limited to a place, time and specific people. The Koran does not have these features. It is impossible to even understand the Koran without the external aides of the sunna and the hadiths. So if you want to compare the Bible and the Koran then you have to also include those hadiths and sunna. The Koran is an attack on humanity, and this is the reason for the extremism of the muslims who now want to plunge civilisation into the Dark Ages once again, like they did once before already. It appears that you are a very sly and selective muslim, not honest at all:

      Each of the 164 Jihad verses in this list was selected based on how clearly and directly it spoke about Jihad, at least when considered in its immediate context. Most of the listed passages mention a military expedition, fighting, or distributing war spoils. Verses NOT generally listed are those that speak about aspects of Jihad other than the raiding, fighting and looting, such as:

      • Muhammad’s poor opinion of those who did not go on Jihad, even though they were able-bodied and able financially (for instance, some verses in K 009:081-096),
      • The heavenly rewards for Jihadists, and
      • The many generic mentions of “victory” found in the Koran.

      Such omitted verses can readily be found in proximity to the Jihad verses listed below.

      Abrogation is a reoccurring topic whenever verses of the Koran are discussed. As a rule, later verses counseling Holy War, such the Sword Verse (K 009:005), abrogate earlier verses counseling tolerance and peace, such as K 002:256. The Sword Verse is just one of the 164 Jihad verses listed below. It follows that not many, if any, of the Holy War verses in this list are abrogated.

      The list gives the verses in the order they occur in the Koran, but this is not the chronological order the verses were written. To gain a deeper understanding of the verses, one can study these verses in chronological order, and also consult articles and commentaries for the historical context. A good place to start is Rev. Richard P. Bailey’s article, “Jihad: The Teaching of Islam From Its Primary Sources—The Quran and Hadith,” http://www.Answering-Islam.org/Bailey/jihad.html.

      The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008[3]

  • Mi

    Maybe you read the wrong book. Or never seen the book. Look at Arnoud Van Doorn, he is a happy man now after reverting to Islam. Don’t let yourself sank in hatred, get the book and start reading. May you be safe from hellfire. Ameen.

    • Lea

      I thought there was only one Koran? Ignorance is bliss they say…. It is not hatred to state the truthful facts, in particular with regard to Islam, since Islam is a militant political ideology masquerading as a religion deceiving people while seeking world domination. Those who do not believe in Jesus Christ are in danger of hellfire since he is the Logos of this world, and he tells us that the work of God, is to believe, so what you believe is crucial, it is in effect, who you are. The fact remains that Islam is not based only on the Koran, but on the life of mohammad, the false prophet of Arabia, the sunna as well as the hadiths. In fact it is impossible to understand the Koran unless you study the sunna and hadiths, and even then it would make no sense unless a Bible existed in the first place. So the Koran, needs external information from itself, in order to make some sense of the chaos and repetition. The Koran incites muslims to wage a violent war on non muslims, today, just as it did in the 7th century. We see this wicked fruit of the false prophet in manifestation today worldwide. The Koran is definitely hate speech, specifically mentions Christians and jews, and insults them too. Mo’s career was as a warlord, attacking caravans and peoples, and stealing their property, whilst carrying out atrocious crimes against humanity, and this is the sinful wicked mortal man that muslims revere and worship as their Lord.

  • zack

    Most of the non muslims here just believe what the media and their priest teaches them regarding Islam.They pick a few phrases inside the Quran that says God tells the muslim in regards to killing the non muslims BUT funny thing is they often left out the whole story of the Surah (verse) that from where they were taken from.

    When you’re reading the Quran, you have to remember a few things.

    one is to read the whole Quran or at least the whole surah.

    second is to understand that the words are unchallenged poetry that needs to be fully think of deeply in regards to the meaning (better yet ask a knowledgeable muslim if you don’t understand),

    thirdly Quran is a guidance for all race of mankind for all ages of time for all aspects of life as a whole and the afterlife.

    Finally, the words in Quran are the words of GOD.

    it is not words of men that speaks sweetly to the ears of another like it is all roses and lovely gardens when you join this religion. What worng is wrong and what right is right….there is pleasure in heaven and there is painful tortures in hell.

    Now in the Quran, some phrases like the phrases that God tells muslims to kill the non believers are often manipulated by your priest. The phrases was;

    one : as a permission to take up arms against the non believers.
    two : as a powerful motivation to the muslims (especially during the time of early age of Islam) that God is behind them. Not the killing, but the war to protect and uphold the religion and faith. (Read about the war of Badar the first of the Islamic war and you’ll understand the reason more)

    three : whenever muslims engaged in war there are for specific reasons and muslims are NOT ALLOWED to kill innocents, old harmless men, women and children for any reason whatsoever.

    Now, all of these are contained inside the Quran because Quran is the guidance to life in all aspect and the hadith of the prophet teaches on how to do it.

    Simple question, for a religion that strictly forbidden its followers to drink even a small drop of alcohol because all the stupid major mistakes like raping, killing, and other is caused by alcohol, do you really believe it teaches violence?

    Another simple question, if you solely believe that religion should only speaks about love and treating others who tries to harm you by sword with a cup of tea, WHY DO EVERY COUNTRY IN THIS WORLD HAVE A POLICE???

    If you said that a religion should not teaches about war and stuff so tell me WHY DO EVERY COUNTRY IN THIS WORLD HAVE AN ARMY???

    If you said that a religion should only teaches about how you should be forgiving of others that commit sins and crimes, WHY DO EVERY COUNTRY IN THIS WORLD HAVE A JUDGE AND JAIL???

    If you said that a religion should not teach others that it is alright to go to war, WHY DO COUNTRIES LIKE ……. AND ITS ALLIES WHEN TO WAR WITH OTHER COUNTRIES BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IT’S THE SOURCE OF TERRORIST???

    and if you said that a religion should be about looking at the good in people and preaching loves, WHY DO ALL THE MEDIAS AND ALL OF YOU HERE INSULTS ISLAM AND MISINTERPRETING OUR QURAN FOR YOUR OWN BENEFITS???????/????????

    • Lea

      This is why:

      When
      the Qur’an’s violent verses are juxtaposed with their Old Testament
      counterparts, they are especially distinct for using language that transcends
      time and space, inciting believers to attack and slay nonbelievers today no
      less than yesterday. God commanded the Hebrews to kill Hittites, Amorites,
      Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites—all specific peoples rooted to a
      specific time and place. At no time did God give an open-ended command for the
      Hebrews, and by extension their Jewish descendants, to fight and kill gentiles.
      On the other hand, though Islam’s original enemies were, like Judaism’s,
      historical (e.g., Christian Byzantines and Zoroastrian Persians), the Qur’an
      rarely singles them out by their proper names. Instead, Muslims were (and are)
      commanded to fight the people of the book—”until they pay the tribute out
      of hand and have been humbled” and to “slay the idolaters wherever
      you find them.”

      The
      two Arabic conjunctions “until” (hata) and “wherever”
      (haythu) demonstrate the perpetual and ubiquitous nature of these commandments:
      There are still “people of the book” who have yet to be “utterly
      humbled” (especially in the Americas, Europe, and Israel) and
      “idolators” to be slain “wherever” one looks (especially
      Asia and sub-Saharan Africa). In fact, the salient feature of almost all of the
      violent commandments in Islamic scriptures is their open-ended and generic
      nature: “Fight them [non-Muslims]
      until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s entirely.” Also, in
      a well-attested tradition that appears in the hadith collections, Muhammad
      proclaims:

      I have
      been commanded to wage war against mankind until they testify that there is no
      god but God and that Muhammad is the Messenger of God; and that they establish
      prostration prayer, and pay the alms-tax [i.e., convert to Islam]. If they do
      so, their blood and property are protected.

      Iraqi
      jurist Majid Khaduri (1909-2007), after defining jihad as warfare, writes that
      “jihad … is regarded by all jurists, with almost no exception, as a
      collective obligation of the whole Muslim community.”[And, of
      course, Muslim legal manuals written in Arabic are even more explicit.

      Whereas
      first-century Christianity spread via the blood of martyrs, first-century Islam
      spread through violent conquest and bloodshed. Indeed, from day one to the
      present—whenever it could—Islam spread through conquest, as evidenced by the
      fact that the majority of what is now known as the Islamic world, or dar
      al-Islam, was conquered by the sword of Islam. This is a historic fact,
      attested to by the most authoritative Islamic historians. Even the Arabian
      peninsula, the “home” of Islam, was subdued by great force and
      bloodshed, as evidenced by the Ridda wars following Muhammad’s death when tens
      of thousands of Arabs were put to the sword by the first caliph Abu Bakr for
      abandoning Islam.

      Moreover,
      concerning the current default position which purports to explain away Islamic violence—that
      the latter is a product of Muslim frustration vis-à-vis political or economic
      oppression—one must ask: What about all the oppressed Christians and Jews, not
      to mention Hindus and Buddhists, of the world today? Where is their
      religiously-garbed violence? The fact remains: Even though the Islamic world
      has the lion’s share of dramatic headlines—of violence, terrorism,
      suicide-attacks, decapitations—it is certainly not the only region in the world
      suffering under both internal and external pressures.

      For
      instance, even though practically all of sub-Saharan Africa is currently
      riddled with political corruption, oppression and poverty, when it comes to
      violence, terrorism, and sheer chaos, Somalia—which also happens to be the only
      sub-Saharan country that is entirely Muslim—leads the pack. Moreover, those
      most responsible for Somali violence and the enforcement of intolerant,
      draconian, legal measures—the members of the jihadi group Al-Shabab (the
      youth)—articulate and justify all their actions through an Islamist paradigm.

      In
      Sudan, too, a jihadi-genocide against the Christian and polytheistic peoples is
      currently being waged by Khartoum’s Islamist government and has left nearly a
      million “infidels” and “apostates” dead.
      That the Organization of Islamic Conference has come to the defense of Sudanese
      president Hassan Ahmad al-Bashir, who is wanted by the International Criminal
      Court, is further telling of the Islamic body’s approval of violence toward
      both non-Muslims and those deemed not Muslim enough. Latin American and
      non-Muslim Asian countries also have their fair share of oppressive,
      authoritarian regimes, poverty, and all the rest that the Muslim world suffers.
      Yet, unlike the near daily headlines emanating from the Islamic world, there
      are no records of practicing Christians, Buddhists, or Hindus crashing
      explosives-laden vehicles into the buildings of oppressive (e.g., Cuban or
      Chinese communist) regimes, all the while waving their scriptures in hand and
      screaming, “Jesus [or Buddha or Vishnu] is great!” Why?

      Aside
      from the divine words of the Qur’an, Muhammad’s pattern of behavior—his sunna or
      “example”—is an extremely important source of legislation in Islam.
      Muslims are exhorted to emulate
      Muhammad
      in all walks of life: “You have had a good example in God’s
      Messenger.”And Muhammad’s pattern of conduct toward non-Muslims is quite
      explicit.

      Sarcastically
      arguing against the concept of moderate Islam, for example, terrorist Osama bin
      Laden,
      who enjoys half the Arab-Islamic world’s support per an Al-Jazeera
      poll,
      portrays the Prophet’s sunna thusly:

      “Moderation”
      is demonstrated by our prophet who did not remain more than three months in
      Medina without raiding or sending a raiding party into the lands of the
      infidels to beat down their strongholds and seize their possessions, their
      lives, and their women.

      In
      fact, based on both the Qur’an and Muhammad’s sunna, pillaging and plundering
      infidels, enslaving their children, and placing their women in concubinage is
      well founded.[21] And the
      concept of sunna—which is what 90 percent of the billion-plus Muslims, the
      Sunnis, are named after—essentially asserts that anything performed or approved
      by Muhammad, humanity’s most perfect example, is applicable for Muslims today
      no less than yesterday. This, of course, does not mean that Muslims in mass
      live only to plunder and rape.

      But
      it does mean that persons naturally inclined to such activities, and who also
      happen to be Muslim, can—and do—quite easily justify their actions by referring
      to the “Sunna of the Prophet”—the way Al-Qaeda, for
      example, justified its attacks on 9/11 where
      innocents including women and children were killed: Muhammad authorized his
      followers to use catapults during their siege of the town of Ta’if in 630 C.E.—townspeople
      had refused to submit—though he was aware that women and children were
      sheltered there. Also, when asked if it was permissible to launch night raids
      or set fire to the fortifications of the infidels if women and children were
      among them, the Prophet is said to have responded, “They [women and
      children] are from among them [infidels].”

      Though
      law-centric and possibly legalistic, Judaism has no such equivalent to the
      Sunna; the words and deeds of the patriarchs, though described in the Old Testament,
      never went on to prescribe Jewish law. Neither Abraham’s
      “white-lies,” nor Jacob’s perfidy, nor Moses’ short-fuse, nor David’s
      adultery, nor Solomon’s philandering ever went on to instruct Jews or
      Christians. They were understood as historical acts perpetrated by fallible men
      who were more often than not punished by God for their less than ideal
      behaviour.

      As
      for Christianity, much of the Old Testament law was abrogated or
      fulfilled—depending on one’s perspective—by Jesus. “Eye for an eye”
      gave way to “turn the other cheek.” Totally loving God and one’s
      neighbor became supreme law. Furthermore,
      Jesus’ sunna—as in “What would Jesus do?”—is characterized by
      passivity and altruism. The New Testament contains absolutely no exhortations
      to violence.

      Still,
      there are those who attempt to portray Jesus as having a similarly militant
      ethos as Muhammad by quoting the verse where the former—who “spoke to the
      multitudes in parables and without a parable spoke not”—said, “I come
      not to bring peace but a sword.” But based on the context of this
      statement, it is clear that Jesus was not commanding violence against
      non-Christians but rather predicting that strife will exist between Christians
      and their environment—a prediction that was only too true as early Christians,
      far from taking up the sword, passively perished by the sword in martyrdom as too
      often they still do in the Muslim world.

      Others
      point to the violence predicted in the Book of Revelation while,
      again, failing to discern that the entire account is descriptive—not to mention
      clearly symbolic—and thus hardly prescriptive for Christians. At any rate, how
      can one conscionably compare this handful of New Testament verses that
      metaphorically mention the word “sword” to the literally hundreds of
      Qur’anic injunctions and statements by Muhammad that clearly command Muslims to
      take up a very real sword against non-Muslims?

      in
      the New Testament, Jews “plan to stone Jesus, they plot to kill him; in
      turn, Jesus calls them liars, children of the Devil.” It still remains to
      be seen if being called “children of the Devil” is more offensive
      than being referred to as the descendants of apes and pigs—the Qur’an’s
      appellation for Jews. Name calling aside, however, what matters here is that,
      whereas the New Testament does not command Christians to treat Jews as
      “children of the Devil,” based on the Qur’an, primarily 9:29, Islamic
      law obligates Muslims to subjugate Jews, indeed, all non-Muslims.

      Does
      this mean that no self-professed Christian can be anti-Semitic? Of
      course not. But it does mean that Christian anti-Semites are living
      oxymoron’s—for the simple reason that textually and theologically,
      Christianity, far from teaching hatred or animosity, unambiguously stresses
      love and forgiveness. Whether or not all Christians follow such mandates is
      hardly the point; just as whether or not all Muslims uphold the obligation of
      jihad is hardly the point. The only question is, what do the religions command?

      John
      Esposito is therefore right to assert that “Jews and Christians have
      engaged in acts of violence.” He is wrong, however, to add, “We
      [Christians] have our own theology of hate.” Nothing in the New Testament
      teaches hate—certainly nothing to compare with Qur’anic injunctions such as:
      “We [Muslims] disbelieve in you [non-Muslims], and between us and you
      enmity has shown itself, and hatred for ever until you believe in God
      alone.” Koran 60.4

      Crusades

      from
      the beginnings of Islam, more than 400 years before the Crusades, Christians
      have noted that Islam was spread by the sword.[31] Indeed,
      authoritative Muslim historians writing centuries before the Crusades, such as
      Ahmad Ibn Yahya al-Baladhuri (d. 892) and Muhammad ibn Jarir at-Tabari
      (838-923), make it clear that Islam was spread by the sword.

      The
      fact remains: The Crusades were a counter-attack on Islam—not an unprovoked
      assault as Armstrong and other revisionist historians portray. Eminent
      historian Bernard Lewis puts it well,

      Even
      the Christian crusade, often compared with the Muslim jihad, was itself a
      delayed and limited response to the jihad and in part also an imitation. But
      unlike the jihad, it was concerned primarily with the defense or reconquest of
      threatened or lost Christian territory. It was, with few exceptions, limited to
      the successful wars for the recovery of south-west Europe, and the unsuccessful
      wars to recover the Holy Land and to halt the Ottoman advance in the Balkans.
      The Muslim jihad, in contrast, was perceived as unlimited, as a religious
      obligation that would continue until all the world had either adopted the
      Muslim faith or submitted to Muslim rule. … The object of jihad is to bring the
      whole world under Islamic law.[32]

      Moreover,
      Muslim invasions and atrocities against Christians were on the rise in the
      decades before the launch of the Crusades in 1096. The Fatimid caliph Abu ‘Ali
      Mansur Tariqu’l-Hakim (r. 996-1021) desecrated and destroyed a number of
      important churches—such as the Church of St. Mark in Egypt and the Church of
      the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem—and decreed even more oppressive than usual
      decrees against Christians and Jews. Then, in 1071, the Seljuk Turks crushed
      the Byzantines in the pivotal battle of Manzikert and, in effect, conquered a
      major chunk of Byzantine Anatolia presaging the way for the eventual capture of
      Constantinople centuries later.

      It
      was against this backdrop that Pope Urban II (r. 1088-1099) called for the
      Crusades:

      From
      the confines of Jerusalem and the city of Constantinople a horrible tale has
      gone forth and very frequently has been brought to our ears, namely, that a
      race from the kingdom of the Persians [i.e., Muslim Turks] … has invaded the
      lands of those Christians and has depopulated them by the sword, pillage and
      fire; it has led away a part of the captives into its own country, and a part
      it has destroyed by cruel tortures; it has either entirely destroyed the
      churches of God or appropriated them for the rites of its own religion.[33]

      Even
      though Urban II’s description is historically accurate, the fact remains:
      However one interprets these wars—as offensive or defensive, just or unjust—it
      is evident that they were not based on the example of Jesus,
      who exhorted his followers to “love your enemies, bless those who curse
      you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you
      and persecute you.”[34] Indeed, it took centuries
      of theological debate, from Augustine to Aquinas, to rationalize defensive
      war—articulated as “just war.” Thus, it would seem that if anyone, it
      is the Crusaders—not the jihadists—who have been less than faithful to their
      scriptures (from a literal standpoint); or put conversely, it is the
      jihadists—not the Crusaders—who have faithfully fulfilled their scriptures
      (also from a literal stand point). Moreover, like the violent accounts of the
      Old Testament, the Crusades are historic in nature and not manifestations of
      any deeper scriptural truths.

      In
      fact, far from suggesting anything intrinsic to Christianity, the Crusades
      ironically better help explain Islam. For what the Crusades demonstrated once
      and for all is that irrespective of religious teachings—indeed, in the case of
      these so-called Christian Crusades, despite them—man is often predisposed to
      violence. But this begs the question: If this is how Christians behaved—who are
      commanded to love, bless, and do good to their enemies who hate, curse, and
      persecute them—how much more can be expected of Muslims who, while sharing the
      same violent tendencies, are further commanded by the Deity to attack, kill,
      and plunder nonbelievers?

  • C. Anthony Mitchell

    As a Student of Comparative religion I find this article or at least the Author thereof to be misinformed in regards to the cited passages in the Qu’ran, and also the meaning of Jihad. First as a Christian raised Islamic revert I stand fundamentally opposed to any one who attempts to paint any Holy Book as preaching Hate. From the Vedas to the Bible and Qu’ran and all points in between. With the exception being the Satanic Bible. If you Contextualize the passages about fighting the infidels and Jihad it is reflecting the time when Mohammad (pbuh) and his followers were under oppression of Idolaters who stole from them, oppressed them, and eventually expelled them from Mecca. Some of the cited passages must be read with contextual integrity in order not to miss the point, or yes at the surface it seems hateful, but the Bible talks about War, The Nation of Israel constantly had to defend itself. When a bunch of misinformed Knights descended on Jerusalem and slaughtered peaceful,Christian, Jews, and Muslims peacefully coexisting there it is Glorified as Crusade. The Bible speaks of the destruction of Sodom And Ghomorrah due their Lewd and illicit sexual behavior be gay or straight, and some misinformed persons twist scripture for their own agendas. Much like the feeling I get from this writer. I have read Both Books they deal with life and the Human drama spanning millenia. So they Both Bible and Qu’ran deal with triumph tragedy, sex, violence, and murder. The Books only speak of the Hate that they have recorded from the historical examples of the Human drama. Maybe if we taught more reading Comprehension and spent a little more time thinking we would not subject ourselves to the intellectual laziness that results in confusion over books whose subject matters were meant to be contemplated and not take them so literally taken. Study to show thy self approved.

    • Lea

      You see, the ideas that you are espousing regarding the Gospels and the Torah, that they were limited to a place, time and specific people are valid, and portray the historic events of that time, are valid, but this definitely does not apply equally to the Koran. The clearest evidence for this assertion is in the fruit of the false prophet, manifest in the actual writings, preaching, teachings, and most of the actual conduct of the muslims themselves towards non muslims for 1400 years already.

      The Qur’an revolves and evolves around Muhammad’s life. Muhammad recited the words of the Qur’an in response to various situations in his life, but what these situations were is not recorded in the Qur’an. That is, the Qur’an does not provide its own context or chronology. Knowing the correct context and chronology is essential to understand the Qur’an. But to know this context and chronology you must go outside of the Qur’an to the Islamic traditions – books like the Hadith or Sira literature. These books provide the context for the Qur’an. The Islamic scholar Habib Ur Rahman Azami clearly states the Qur’an’s dependence upon the Hadith and Sira.

      It is almost impossible to understand or explain the meaning of a large number of Qur’anic verses if the Traditions are rejected as useless and inauthentic. (Habib Ur Rahman Azami, The Sunnah in Islam, pp. 29-31.)

      The Bible, however, is very different. It provides its own context and chronology. Its revelation begins with creation and tells the story of God, the world, his people, the prophets and the Messiah, right through to the age of the resurrection. When the Bible gives various commands or announces the gospel it does so within a context that it itself has revealed. Thus, to understand the Bible you only need the Bible. In fact, many of the stories which are only briefly retold in the Qur’an are told in full in the Bible. The Bible is self-sufficient, as the word of God should be. Therefore to compare the Bible to the Qur’an alone is misleading and inaccurate.

      The Qur’an does not contain most of the basic practices or many of the beliefs of Islam.

      The Sunnah (the example of Muhammad) is the crucial complement to the Koran; so much so, that there are in fact isolated instances where, in fact, the Sunnah appears to prevail over the Koran as, for example, when the Koran refers to three daily prayers (24:58, 11:116, 17:78-79, 20:130, 30:17-18), but the Sunnah sets five. On the other hand, there are cases from the earliest days of Islam of universal practices which appear to contradict express Sunnah. Moreover, the Koran does not make explicit all of its commands; not even all those which are fundamental. Thus it enjoins prayer, but not how it is to be performed: the form of canonical prayer (salah) is based entirely on Sunnah. (Cyril Glassé, “Sunnah”, The Concise Encyclopedia of Islam, pp. 381-382)

      (T)he obligatory injunction to establish Salah (regular, formal worship) was revealed in the Qur’an as were some of the elements of Salah (like Qiyam, Ruku`, Sujud and Qira’ah). But the actual manner of offering Salah and the order in which the various acts connected with it were to be performed, were not described in the Qur’an. … Similarly the Hajj (pilgrimage to Mecca) was prescribed as a religious duty in the Qur’an but its method and formalities were not defined. The Prophet showed the correct way by performing the Hajj himself. (Habib Ur Rahman Azami, pp. 10-11)

      Narrated Al-Irbad ibn Sariyah as-Sulami: … They gathered and the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) led them in prayer, stood up and said: Does any of you, while reclining on his couch, imagine that Allah has prohibited only that which is to be found in this Qur’an? By Allah, I have preached, commanded and prohibited various matters as numerous as that which is found in the Qur’an, or more numerous. … (Abu-Dawud: bk. 19, no. 3044, Hasan)

      Islamic Shariah is complete only with recourse to both the Qur’an and the Sunnah. (Habib Ur Rahman Azami, p. 5)

      How, when and what to pray, what to do on Hajj, circumcision, the signs of the hour, the story of Hagar, in fact most of the essential Islamic practices and beliefs come from the Sunnah (practices) of Muhammad. The Sunnah is essential to Islam but it does not come from the Qur’an but the Hadith and Sira. Again, this is not the case with the Bible. The Bible has everything a Christian needs. The Bible fully declares what God has done to save us and bring glory to himself and how we are to live. It is the basis for our wisdom and defines our liberty. Therefore to compare the Bible to the Qur’an alone is misleading and inaccurate.

      To compare the Bible to the Qur’an is irrelevant because while the Bible is the foundation of Christianity, the Qur’an is not the foundation of Islam, rather Islam is founded on the Qur’an, Hadith and Sira. If you want an honest and accurate comparison between the books of Christianity and Islam then you must compare the essential books of both religions.

  • namesake

    All religions are that: For idiots.

    • Lea

      You have your own beliefs, which may be called your religion, since your beliefs are what controls you, and they may be idiotic as well. Perhaps you should meditate on the words of Jesus Christ: The work of God is to believe. This clearly indicates to us that the choice you exert with regard to what you believe is all important in this life and the hereafter. Believe in Jesus Christ, not religion which is comprised mainly of man made doctrines and dogmas, interpretations, and set yourself free through truth only accessible in the Logos of this world.

  • Jeet

    More u learn Pislam more&more u HATE ISLAM…Mo is rapist/pedophile/murderer/necrophilia………..so on

  • Arah Abrahim

    Robert Spencer should also study the bible and he surely found the following:
    (Matthew 10:34-36) – “Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35″For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; 36and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household.”
    (Luke 12:51,52) – “Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division; 52for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two, and two against three…”
    (Luke 22:36) – “And He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take it along, likewise also a bag, and let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one.”

    • Julean

      Ask yourself the question, did Mo murder people. Yes, he did and he himself carried the sword and instructed others to use the sword on people, amongst other numerous tortures. Jesus never ever did anything remotely close to that. Jesus is sinless, unlike the false prophet of Arabia. There are many verses from which it is clear that Jesus mission and message was peace, and was to be spread peacefully only. His commands are in no way ambiguous:

      Matthew 26:
      52 “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him,
      “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.”

      Luke 9:
      51 As the time approached for him to be taken up to heaven,
      Jesus resolutely set out for Jerusalem.
      52 And he sent messengers on ahead, who went into a Samaritan
      village to get things ready for him;
      53 but the people there did not welcome him, because he was
      heading for Jerusalem.
      54 When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked,
      “Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to
      destroy them?”
      55 But Jesus turned and rebuked them,
      56 and they went to another village.

      [Shortly thereafter, he sends out a larger group of disciples to
      preach the gospel, and gives among others, these instructions.]

      Luke 10:
      1 After this the Lord appointed seventy-two others and sent them
      two by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was
      about to go.
      2 He told them, “The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few.
      Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into
      his harvest field.
      3 Go! I am sending you out like lambs among wolves.”

      5 “When you enter a house, first say, `Peace to this house.’
      6 If a man of peace is there, your peace will rest on him;
      if not, it will return to you.”

      10 But when you enter a town and are not welcomed,
      go into its streets and say,
      11 `Even the dust of your town that sticks to our feet we wipe off
      against you. Yet be sure of this: The kingdom of God is near.’

      It is clear from these passages (and there are more) that Christians are not allowed to use force to spread the message of the Gospel. We are to make clear that it is very serious to reject the message of God, but if we are not welcomed, then we should move on to those who are willing to listen.

      How then are we to understand Jesus’ words in Matthew 10:45?

      I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

      Let us read these words in their context, since the Bible does make clear its meaning, unlike the chaotic Koran.

      Matthew 10:
      1 He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority
      to drive out evil spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
      2 These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is
      called Peter) and his brother Andrew; …

      5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: …

      16 “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as
      shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
      17 Be on your guard against men; they will hand you over to the
      local councils and flog you in their synagogues.
      18 On my account you will be brought before governors and kings
      as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles.
      19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or
      how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say,
      20 for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father
      speaking through you.
      21 Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child;
      children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.
      22 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the
      end will be saved.

      28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
      Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

      34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth.
      I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
      35 For I have come to turn `a man against his father, a daughter
      against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law –
      36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
      37 Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me
      is not worthy of me;
      anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me
      is not worthy of me;
      38 and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me
      is not worthy of me.
      39 Whoever finds his life will lose it,
      and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.”

      The first important observation is to recognize that Jesus does not speak about “the sword”, but about “a sword”. Jesus is not a prophet of the sword. The sword of violence, force and war has no place in his message. What kind of sword is he talking about?

      The above passage speaks about the consequence of being obedient to the command of Jesus that we are to preach his message. Some will listen and accept it but many will reject it and react violently.

      We will be hated for the message of repentance that we have to bring. We will be hated because we call people from evil to light and because this message exposes their evil deeds.

      For many it will mean that even our own family will turn against us.

      What kind of sword? It is the sword of division that God’s word brings. It is the division of truth from error, and the reaction of the darkness against the light. The sword that Jesus brings, is the sword that his followers have to suffer, a sword that is applied to them, not a sword that they wield against others.

      And exactly that happens in many countries. The fellowship of believers, while full of peace, incurs the wrath of the nonbelievers. Christians are gathering peacefully, yet are persecuted by muslims.
      Furthermore, Jesus does not say buy a sword and then go out and kill a few unbelievers, like the sinful mo does. He says buy a sword so that you can defend yourself from the attacking unbelievers, the perpetual marauding muslims practising their satanic unholy jihad.

  • ashraf

    Quran does not teach to hate. Its actually the failure of people understanding the islam. Yes you do get few odd ones those who use islam for their political hates.
    The verses in quran where it says to kill non believers ( jews and Christians), those verses was only applied at war time when muslims was forced out of their homelands. Im saying this because i done some research on quran. Before any accusations, you lot should study more deeply, then you will understand.
    Its come from same root as bible. Only truth of islam, is for every human kind

    • Lea

      You are lying since the evidence today, and all through the ages, is that muslims are murdering Christians and Jews and not only in the Middle East either. And they base it on these statements made by the false prophet, which have no historical context, they are open ended, beyond place and time. I have also done some research in the Koran, and I have noticed the double speak, even those who speak in Arabic one thing, and then in English the total opposite. Islam is a crime against humanity and the root cause for most, if not all, the wars and conflicts in this world. You lot o muslims should stop acting like you are ignorant and face the true facts, reject the pagan death cult islam, and join the human race, instead of living to destroy it.

  • http://quran.com Anonnymous

    You must read the Quran In Its entirety in order to understand its true message. An unbeliever can mean anyone that spreads hate about religions they don’t understand much about like Robert Spencer and John Jameson.

  • Devendra Rathore

    Inki maa ki choot, bhadve saale