Egypt: Free People Not Going Quietly Into the Sharia Night


Survey after survey, as well as the election results that put the Muslim Brotherhood’s Mohammed Morsi in the presidential palace, show that most Egyptians want Islamic law. But those who do not are not submitting quietly to Sharia tyranny.

Morsi has declared a state of emergency and given the military the power to arrest civilian protesters, yet still the anti-Morsi demonstrations continue. And while he quickly endorsed the demonstrations against Hosni Mubarak that ultimately led to the Muslim Brotherhood’s ascent to power, Barack Obama has been reticent about supporting these demonstrations, as he was in 2009 when thousands of Iranians took to the streets to protest against the mullahcracy.

But aren’t these “pro-democracy” protesters? After all, Morsi has been notably inhospitable to dissent, arresting his critics and overseeing the adoption of a constitution that Egyptian Christians fear will be used to deny them basic rights, in accord with Sharia provisions institutionalizing discrimination against non-Muslims. Videos have come to light in which he lashed out against Jews with venomous hatred, referring to Qur’anic curses of them as “apes and pigs” and declaring that there could be no negotiations with Israel.

Those who are protesting against his regime, on the other hand, are in favor of genuine democratic rule, without Sharia restrictions on the freedom of speech and its denial of equality of rights to large segments of the popular.

Yet Obama is silent. The only two mass popular uprisings in Muslim countries that he has not supported have one thing in common: both have been against pro-Sharia Islamic supremacist regimes. All the popular uprisings he has supported, meanwhile, have resulted in the installation of pro-Sharia Islamic supremacist regimes.

One might be pardoned for thinking that Obama is in favor of pro-Sharia Islamic supremacist regimes. In any case, so are most Egyptians: a Pew Research Center survey conducted in Spring 2010, before the chimerical “Arab Spring” and the toppling of Mubarak, found that no fewer than eighty-five percent of Egyptians thought that Islam was a positive influence in politics. Fifty-nine percent said they identified with “Islamic fundamentalists” in their struggle against “groups who want to modernize the country,” who had the support of only twenty-seven percent of Egyptians. Only twenty percent were “very concerned” about “Islamic extremism” within Egypt.

Another survey in May 2012 found little difference. 61 percent of Egyptians stated that they wanted to see Egypt abandon its peace treaty with Israel, and the same number identified the hardline Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia as the country that should serve as Egypt’s model for the role Islam should play in government. 60 percent said that Egypt’s laws should hew closely to the directives of the Qur’an.

Yet these surveys show that a substantial minority in Egypt does not want Sharia, and the demonstrations this week demonstrate that they’re determined to make a stand. They oppose the new Egyptian constitution that, as the Associated Press reported, “largely reflects the conservative vision of the Islamists, with articles that rights activists, liberals and Christians fear will lead to restrictions on the rights of women and minorities and civil liberties in general.” They have every reason to be concerned, for the constitution reflects in numerous particulars Sharia restrictions on their rights. AP noted that the constitution’s wording “could give Islamists the tool for insisting on stricter implementation of rulings of Shariah.”

Also, “the draft contains no article specifically establishing equality between men and women because of disputes over the phrasing. However, it maintains that a woman must balance her duties toward family and outside work, suggesting that she can be held accountable if her public role conflicts with her family duties. No such article is mentioned for men.”

The implications for women’s rights are as obvious as they are unsurprising in light of Sharia’s reduction of women to the status of little more than commodities, slaves of the men who own them.

Then there are numerous articles heralding the introduction of Sharia restrictions on the freedom of speech. Islamic law forbids criticism of Islam, Muhammad and the Qur’an, and the constitution duly contains an article that “bans insulting or defaming the prophet and messengers.” And it doesn’t stop there. Another article bans “insulting humans,” suggesting authoritarian restrictions on criticism of political leaders, and yet another “underlines that the state will protect ‘the true nature of the Egyptian family … and promote its morals and values,’” about which AP notes: “phrasing that is vague and suggests state control over the contents of such arts forms as books and films.”

Darkness is descending upon Egypt, with willing aid from the putative leader of the free world, who has resisted cancellation of a deal that would send F-16s, tanks, and $1.5 billion to Egypt. The protesters whom Barack Obama should be supporting are on the streets of Cairo now. Instead, the outgoing Secretary of State insists that Morsi has “a lot of the right intentions” and that opposing him would be unwise: “We must make sure the revolution isn’t hijacked by extremists.”

In reality, the “extremists” are already in power. That America is not standing with those who oppose them is just the latest disgrace in the long line of disgraces that is Obama’s foreign policy.

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  • Anamah

    Sickening path… of darkness that we are going to share in case of continuing the American way of laissez faire laissez passer…

  • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

    At the "Arab Spring's" inception, I reported, without Obama's interference (behind the scenes) the so called spring would have disappeared into the night. That being said, there are pockets in the region (chiefly in Iran) who truly want freedom and are horrified by Sharia Law. Why? Because they live under it!!

    Regardless, where was the Islamist-in-Chief, in 2009, when Iranians were slaughtered while attempting to break the back of their bondage? Well, he was busy giving a "shout out" to native Americans at a dinner in their honor.Does anyone in their right mind-no pun intended-believe he will save the freedom seekers in Egypt? Never and never.

    Why? This is because he "hearts" with them. He is part "red", part "green", and most especially, he is in sync with totalitarian rule. Here is some food for thought – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/10/11/the-islamist-

    Obama's roots are deeply Sunni and embedded with the Muslim Brotherhood Mafia – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/08/13/coming-full-c

    Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/

    • Asher

      Thankyou, We knew this Presidency would be the possible demise of America, if he is able to disarm citizens, then he will be able to control everything.

      • scum

        Ooohhh, control. It's sounds so scary when you say that. LOL

        • Mary Sue

          Yeah yeah, we know your fetish is to be in a gimp mask in a box under O's and M's bed.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "..we know your fetish is to be in a gimp mask in a box under O's and M's bed."

            Rumor has it he'd have to find room under the bed next to 0'Bama. This probably increases the thrill for our SCUM friend.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            But what is he really trying to tell us?

            SCUMSociety for Cutting Up Men (feminist manifesto)
            SCUMSubculture Urban Marketing
            SCUMSaboteurs and Criminals United in Mayhem (James Bond Jr.)
            SCUMSouthern California Unified Malacologists
            SCUMSan Carlans Using Macintosh (San Carlos, CA)
            SCUMSelf-Centered Urban Male
            SCUMSouth Carolina Unorganized Militia
            SCUMSouth Coast United Motorcyclists
            SCUMSecret Criminal Underground Movement
            SCUM Socialist Communist Underground Movement

            Hmmm…I wonder which one we're dealing with?

    • Chris

      I wonder where they get figures like 70% of Egyptians want sharia law? Do Muslims in these countries feel safe enough to say they don't want sharia? Do they poll women,Christians and homosexuals?
      Or is this another bogus meaningless statistic? An administration that claims that "the economy is recovering", "al quada is on the run", "all scientists agree that we must stop global warming" , "We have the most transparent administration in history" etc, etc, etc. wouldnt hesitate to promote the idea that islam really is popular, if you just give it a try. I'm sure if you polled North Koreans, to find the percentage who love N Korean government, The " official" number would be close to 100%

      Adina, I always enjoy you posts. It's criminal that the Obama administration treats Israel with utter distain, as is the mass media's long running slander that the existential threat to Israel is their own fault.

      • EarlyBird

        Very good point. How honest are people even willing to be in Egypt?

        I remember back when the Palestinian Lizard, aka, Arafat, was still kicking, and Palestinian social scientists canvassed Palestinian neighborhods asking if they'd be willing to give up the "right of return" for peaceful co-existence with Israel, and for merely asking the question, Arafat had his henchmen hun them down, beat them, imprison them and God know's what.

        We do know one thing, however, and that is that the Egyptian people are not monolithically Islamist fundamentalist.

  • Nanis

    Obummer is at home enjoying his breakfast. There is no money for our troops to eat a warm breakfast but there is money to support the muslim brotherood. Scince he already appointed the morsi guy he doesn't care what the people in egypt want. He believes in slavery not freedom.

  • Smote

    Barack 'crocodile tears' Obama's day will come. He'll be brought to account. Sometimes it's hard to know the difference between a fake and a genuine fake.

  • Flowerknife_us

    Secular dictator bad.

    Islamic dictator good.

    Secular dictator kills-bad

    Islamic dictator kills-good.

    Secular dictator gets paid to keep his word.

    Islamic dictator gets paid.

    The differences go on and on and on…

  • scum

    Thank you to Robert Spencer for proving to other FPM writers that the pro-democracy movement in Egypt was something other than the Muslim Brotherhood.

    • reader

      and yet Obama has nothing to do with it. Obama only deals with muslim brotherhood, for some reason. Having basically thrown Mubarak under the bus, where is his condemnation of Morsi in support of the "pro-democracy movement"?

      • Toa

        "The demonstrations continue; where is Obama?"

        He is likely thinking about what types of weaponry to send Morsi for use in putting down this heroic revolt.
        Godspeed to the revolutionists!!

  • cathy

    The vote was SEVENTY NINE to NINETEEN in favor of sending F-16 fighter jets to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. TWENTY SIX Republicans voted with the Democrats to arm the Islamic enemy.

    ED: Rand Paul’s amendment to prohibit transfer of F-16s and tanks to Egyptian government; ROLL CALL VOTE
    January 31, 2013
    http://www.therightscoop.com/failed-rand-pauls-am

    Rand Paul: We Don’t Have To Pay England To Be Our Friend, Why Do We Have to Pay Egypt?
    Thu, 01/31/2013
    http://www.dailypaul.com/272813/rand-paul-we-dont

    Egypt's President Morsi Calls Jews 'Apes, Pigs'
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBtkyBhzJ4o
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mXnbgsg9DM

    • EthanP

      Whle I share your opinion of the transfer, consider.
      This is part of the aid guarantees of the "Camp David Accord"
      As long as Egypt lives up to the Accord, and they continue to do so, we must continue to live up to our part.

      • logdon

        Could it be that in arming Egypt with 20 F16's, the US is giving Morsi the tools to wipe the Camp David Accord in Israel's face?

        The deal was with Mubarak who believed that US aid was contingent on his playing nice with Israel. Now, thanks to Obama's Islamist leanings, all such checks and balances are off the table.

        And once Egypt gets a real whiff of the US's Israel isolationism which Obama without a doubt is furthering what then?

        You don't call Jews 'apes and pigs' one minute and next your bestest, best friend.

      • EarlyBird

        Thanks for the sanity, Ethan.

        And let's also understand that Egypt's economy (and pretty much everything else) is run by the military, which has absolutely no interest in the country going the way of Sharia law, or going to war with Israel or anything else, because it would decimate said economy. Unlike many oil states, it completely depends on open markets and relationships with outside entities, so war and Sharia law are not compatible with that. The military will overthrow Morsi before he lets him go too far.

      • cathy

        Ethan

        The following words out of Morsi's own lips are proof that the Muslim Brotherhood leader of Egypt is not living up to the Camp David Accord in regards Israel. Does Israel have to be wiped off the map using US F-15 fighter jets before Egypt is cut off militarily and financially? Threats don't count?. Its akin to providing a gun to your neighbor who has in the past threatened to shoot your family. Would that not be an utter betrayal to those who should be priority consideration?

        Egypt's President Morsi Calls Jews 'Apes, Pigs' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBtkyBhzJ4o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mXnbgsg9DM

        • EarlyBird

          Cathy,

          Hideous rhetoric is not the same as waging war. You are wrong. Egypt has not so much as come close to lifting a finger against Israel under Morsi. However ugly he may be, however worrisome, the sky hasn't fallen. He's a very weak, brand-new leader with pretty fragile support.

          The US, or any country for that matter, can't be so quick on the draw to undo its agreements just because we're wary of new leadership, or that undermines our credibility with ALL allies. Yes, Egypt is still our "ally" however much it ever has been.

          Further, to take away that money now is to let Egypt disintegrate and that's the best thing that could possibly happen for radical Islamists. If you think Egypt is scary now, just imagine it going the way of Afghanistan.

          • reader

            Let me correct the ignorant one more time – with the same example. Nazi field marshall Keitel and a few other Nazi criminals testified at Nuremberg that Hitler had been ready to back out from his demand to relinquish Sudetenland if the Western powers stood their ground. He stated that Hitler would grow ever more cocky and reckless with every new waiver. I suppose, those who have elementary cognitive abilities can – at least at this point – evaluate alternatives.

          • EarlyBird

            Stop with the compulsory Hitler comparisons, silly. It's just nonsense. Thankfully, not everyone we dislike or are worried about is Hitler. Let's do the math, shall we?

            1939 – Hitler is the wildly popular and complete autocrat of the world's premiere industrial and military power. He has multiple allies and treaties with numerous Europeans. Other Western nations, would-be foes, are in complete disarray.

            2013 – Morsi is the extremely weak leader, subservient to the military, atop a very splintered Egyptian populace, hated by about a third of them, with an economy in the toilet and a military which is among the weaker of the Middle East. Other nations, such as its next door neighbor, Israel, could wipe his country out if he so much as sneezed wrong.

            Get a grip.

          • PamM

            "Egypt is still our "ally" however much it ever has been"

            Is Egypt really still America's ally? Iran was our ally under the Shah, but it certainly wasn't under the Khomeini regime which replaced him. Under Mubarak Egypt was a reliable regional ally which could be trusted with advanced weaponry such as F-16s. Mubarak has now gone, deliberately undermined by the jihadist-in-chief in the White House, and has been replaced by a Muslim Brotherhood government of which we have every reason to be suspicious.

            Our one totally reliable friend in the region is Israel, because it shares our basic values. Morsi has made disparaging references to Israel, in which he has referred to its people as apes and pigs. That's not very diplomatic language, and not what I would expect from a head of state. Indeed I would say that any head of state who used such inflammatory language is not someone with whom we should wish to have close ties, and certainly not someone who should be trusted with advanced weaponry.

            In view of that and considering the continuing unrest in Egypt would it not be more sensible to put the deal on hold until the situation clarifies.

          • EarlyBird

            "Is Egypt really still America's ally?"

            As much as it ever was under Mubarak, which is to say, nominally. Our really "ally" in Egypt was and is the military. Mubarak didn't choose to step down; he was forced out by the Egyptian military which saw that he had become more trouble than he was worth.

            The billions of dollars per year we've been sending Egypt since Camp David goes to the military, the nation's elite, which owns close to half of all Egypt's economy. They are completely corrupt, but their interests are economic and therefore run directly counter to making war on Israel, sowing Islamist terrorism, or enacting Sharia law.

            Morsi is president at their discretion. The moment he runs counter to their interests, he's toast. Simply put, Egypt is a long, long way from becoming another Islamist state ala' Iran.

            In fact, I would lay odds that the generals are going call a state of emergency and remove Morsi from power by the end of 2013.

    • EarlyBird

      Cathy, however scary Morsi is, was truly elected by the people of Egypt, as even this article points to.

      Egypt has been subsidized by the US by the tune of two billion + dollars a year since the Camp David Accords in '79. To pull the plug immediately on that money because we are wary of Morsi would be to turn Egypt into a failed state overnight. We know that a failed state is a terrorist Disneyland.

      So even the Republicans know that a stable Egypt run by a scary guy is better than a broken Egypt run by countless scary guys. It's about consistency and going slowly, being prudent (conservative), not freaking out doing dramatic things and acting stupid.

      We may very well have to pull the plug on Egypt at some point. I suspect the military will overthrow him before we do.

      • Mary Sue

        big deal, so was Hitler; what's your point?

        • EarlyBird

          My point is that we have been subsidizing the Egyptian military and economy since '79, so that the country doesn't implode and become another failed state open to Islamist terrorists, ala' Afghanistan, or get taken over ala' Iran.

          The money has helped the military keep a handle on the Islamists, and has helped move Egyptians into the middle class. Both are good things for America and Israel. It hurts Islamist terrorists.

          Morsi hardly runs Egypt. The Egyptian military does.

  • tanstaafl

    Maybe all the Egyptian jihadists can go on the haji – and not come back!

  • CravenOkapi

    I'm getting the vague sense that y'all don't actually know what Sharia law is in the Egyptian context.

    • Mary Sue

      please enlighten us, then.

      • CravenOkapi

        The Internet ate my comment. :( I was goon to explain that Sharia is not very well-defined and the Muslim Brotherhood's official stance regarding it's implementation actually protects the rights of women and religious minorities. Oh well.

  • EthanP

    This is all part of his "Alynskiite" belief system. Cripple our military, our economy and give aid to our enemies and undercut our friends.

    He is not incompitent. He is accomplishing exactly what he set out to do.

    • johnnywoods

      He is not incompitent but he is stupid.

  • BLJ

    Since Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood operative he says nothing. Sort of like Sgt Schultz in "Hogan's Heros". He has bigger fish to fly (like turning America into a MB state).

    • EarlyBird

      Do realize how stupid you sound, how much you discredit everything else you write when you declare Obama a "Muslim Brotherhood operative"?

  • Ghostwriter

    I don't think President Obama really cares. He's sympathetic to the Third World anyway so that's who he supports.

  • Guest

    We have been duped!! Everything costs more, the more we read about thousands of regulations is only to put more of our businesses under and any dissenter is called "biased, racist, etc.". I loved our country…but even the Bible speaks of countries that are divided, not able to stand. It's a "divide and conquer"…and unfortunately, the gullible in America are getting conquered.

  • polnick

    Fiery religious laws imposed by god connected holy men have destroyed the Devils influence. Egyptians who believe that they can be self-ruling are defying the first law of Islam and that is to be subservient. Rioters in Egypt are deaf to the calls for prayer by the Grand Mufti; dissidents/infidels and the rest of the scum should be crushed by the heaviest of all tanks.

  • Brigitte

    “Bans Insulting humans”: renders illegal insulting followers of any religion and no religion. No humanoid can be insulted. That's ambitious and in some circumstances perhaps dangerous, but definitely funny. For Mursi's sake hopefully not retroactive. We're all descendants of apes and pigs, picking on the Jews was silly. And now illegal.

  • EarlyBird

    The aftermath of the revolution has hardly solidified in Egypt. There are basically three major factions fighting for control there: a.) the military; b.) Morsi, the MB and various other Islamic hardliners, and; c.) various liberal secular Egyptian factions (as described in this article). Of the three, the military is by far the most powerful and most likely to end up in power in the next year.

    The contention that the US should have helped Mubarak, a brutal dictator (no matter how "secular"), crush the revolution in mind-blowing. That the US should have immediately pulled the plug on our relationship with Egypt and declared it an enemy state the moment Morsi, duly elected however worrisome, was sworn in is absurd.

    The Egyptians are going through their throes, and the under it all is a genuine hope for popular representation in government. Let's all just take a breath and keep a wary eye on them.

    • D-Boy

      So we don't take into account election fraud claims in Egypt either. We just let it slide. just like in America…

    • stevef

      Are you delusional?

      • EarlyBird

        No, but I'd be willing to find out why you think I may be. Go ahead. Present a serious argument, and I'll consider it. All I did was present a pretty widely understood statement on the status of Egypt.

  • Barakus abomadidas

    Ive got fema camps being built for them! Dam christians getting in my way again. I'll show them who's boss on this islamic hill.

    • EarlyBird

      Black helicopters!

  • edgineer1

    It should be obvious to any thinking adult that BO, who is a Communist, will support radical Islam which is allied with the Communist Party against the West.

  • WilliamJamesWard

    Isn't it amazing that no matter what Obama does it turns sour, Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood
    are Mullah Obama's prize accomplishment, isn't it just grand……Onward Obummer………William

  • SoCalMike

    Egypt, Tunisia and Libya is what happens when you empower Ivy League children along with Boy Obama to PLAY foreign policy.
    Sooner or later with all of the money for weapons, military in the form of entire armies and air forces…ad nauseaum thanks to the children in charge of American foreign policy PRETENDING to have half a clue, one of these WMD compliments of our Best and Brightest will land on us but the parasites who delivered the money and weapons will never suffer an iota of blame.

  • kar

    Regarding the Obama admn. His silence and actions, or lack of speaks loudly. There is no in-between, it is either pro or con. His silence says what side he is on. After all, he is the one who invited them to sit in the front row from the very beginning. He was the one who 'invited' them to the White House a few months ago. So…it wasn't to seek peace and harmony, giving them the F-16's.
    Now why would he want to give them F-16's? Let's see now, uhh to fight against Iran? lo?
    to fight against Syria? lo? How about Turkey? lo? and what do you think of using it against Israel?
    well did I answer my own question?

  • BS77

    Giving F-16s to Egypt is like giving a loaded .45 to a chimp…nothing but BAD will come of it. The Egyptians will crash them and then cry for more. End of story. Egypt. Somalia. Sudan. Mali. Iran. Syria….all garbage pits….just connect the dots. The great sorrow is for the poor women and children who live in these horrible places….Women in Afghanistan live like slaves in misery. Where is the UN HUman Rights Commission?

  • Glennd1

    While agreeing with much of what Spencer has to say, I have to point out that the justification of the ongoing aid to Egypt (and Israel) is a treaty obligation we've signed. The Camp David Accords, yes? So, if we refuse our obligations, this gives the Egyptian government the perfect pretext to abandon the treaty without being provocative. As well, the Egyptian military has real standing in Egyptian society, as a separate, legitimate source of power. Some of our funding is direct to the military, such as the F-16s – which they already have a bunch of. One would think all the rabid Zionists here would want the Obama administration to keep up our obligations to this agreement to secure Israel, at the cost of tens of billions of dollars to the American taxpayer.

    Just a thought, you gibbering morons.

    • Jack

      Well as a gibbering moron I would like to say that if indeed these Islamic morons have "a bunch" of F-16's anyway? Why the hell should Mullah Obama give them anymore? Since when did any Islamist adhere to ANY agreement or treaty? Except to re-arm and regroup…. Did it escape your selective, outraged brain cell that Morsi has gotten rid of those that controlled the Egyptian military and replaced them with cronies of his own?

      The Obamination would have been seen in a better light had he sent these fighters and all those billions to the ONLY true democracy in the Middle East—Israel….instead of showing his subservience to the likes of Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood….The fact that you refer to people on here as "rabid Zionists" proves just what a brainwashed individual YOU are….I'm also certain that there is very little that Spencer has to say that you really agree with…

      A spoonful of sugar helps the Taqiyya go down….

      • Glennd1

        Are you actually retarded or something? It's part of the treaty we signed from the Camp David Accord. If we don't meet our obligations under that treaty then Egypt can claim we violated it and end it, whereas our leadership is trying to keep that Israeli peace agreement together. I don't agree with any of it and am just as content to let the Zionists and Islamists kill each other in the desert, but it seems to completely evade you that the treaty exists for Israel's security. If Obama didn't send the money and weapons, you would be complaining that he's violating a vital treaty for Israel's securrity.

        Do you see how stupid you are? You don't even now why the weapons are being shipped, yet you go on and on about it. As for me being brainwashed, really, that's just too much. I actually am fact based and accordingly reject Islamism and Zionism as anti-American. Pursue it if you want, but don't tell me as an American I have any stake in it at all.

      • EarlyBird

        Jack, has it dawned on you that perhaps Egypt is not in the hands of "Islamists," as in radical Islamist terrorists? Perhaps it's not Iran, or the Taliban. Perhaps its a very complex society which is mostly Islamic, but which has a very large secular and middle class strain of citizen which is far more interested in human rights and a decent economy than making war on Israel or enacting Sharia law, and a brand new, very weak would-be Islamist who says horrible things but is barely holding on to power?

        Perhaps the reason Morsi doesn't have a handle on power is because it's not monolithically "Islamist."

        I say "perhaps," but really just a basic attempt to find out what's going on over there will enlighten you quite quickly and maybe even calm you down.

    • Ghostwriter

      Ah,Glennd1 and EarlyBird,the new Jew haters of FrontPage Magazine.

      • Glennd1

        But of course I've never said a bad thing about Jews in my life. I do think that Zionism is loathesome, and certainly the founders of Israel's hands are covered in blood – and that's a fact that most Israelis acknowledge now. It's funny how the right is hanging on to the old lies that Israel purposely perpetuated about its founding. People here seem to just ignore that the Israeli govt and the IDF have released documents that counter the old official version of what happened between '47-'49, and provides a very clear, documented trail of the Zionists cleansing and holding 400 towns of all the Arab Muslims who lived there, totaling 650,000 souls who were just marched through the desert to refugee camps. There is no dispute about the fact that Israel lied about this for decades. It was also uncovered and exposed by Jews, by Zionist, Israeli Jewish historians like Benny Morris.

        While Morris is still a Zionist, he doesn't pretend that the formation of Israel was not a war of conquest against an indigenous people. Whether you understand it or not.

        So don't preach to me or talk down to me as though you hold the moral high ground. You want to dismiss me as anti-semitic, when in fact many Jews agree with me. You want to tell me I sympathize with Islamists when in fact I'm both anti-Zionist and anti-Islamist, really, the only sensible position a thinking person can have. You need to wake up and pull your head out of your butt and get hold of the facts.

  • polnick

    Angry Egyptian rioters also want to become puppets of the US and be well-paid slaves. Mursi and his fun loving generals are using the cash to stuff their stomachs with forbidden pork, drink booze, snort coke, and chase virgins. The rioting will stop when all the sinful pleasures are evenly distributed.

  • henach

    Obama sees the Muslim Brotherhood as his partner. In Morsi's dispute with the National Salvation Front and other anti-Islamist protestors, Obama's decision to provide F-16s sends a message that Morsi has U.S. support. Obama has sent this message of support for the Brotherhood repeatedly — by inviting the Brothers to his Cairo speech even though the MB was outlawed at that time; by demanding that Mubarak must step down (so the MB could come to power); and by having his chief of intelligence James Clapper assure the U.S. Public that the Muslim Brotherhood was a moderate secular, yes secular, organization. The Ikhwan's motto calls for jihad and dying for Allah. It seeks a Sharia state, a caliphate uniting all Sharia states, and jihad to convert the whole world to Sharia. Qutb taught that the fact that there are infidels is reason enough for jihad.

  • atthebeach

    Obama never really 'pro-Democracy'. . .oh, so Western. Obama was/is; OTOH; pro Muslim Brotherhood. Where Marxist/totalitarian meets Muslim-Wahabist and Sharia. Perfect nexus of MO's and interests. . .

  • Anonymous

    I don't buy the argument that the bulk of the riots are a result of Jeffersonian Democrats gone wild. I do not see the evidence for Egyptians rioting for "freedom". Because some despise Morsi does not mean they are "freedom fighters." I don't think the Western concept of "freedom" has resonance in Arab countries. I think there may be a sizeable group which wants Morsi out — but that is so that their favored group can obtain the spoils (riches, boot) of government. Most "governments" in the Arab world are run as per Mafia enclaves. In Egypt probably a dissident faction would like to overthrow the MB, so as to seize the power and then re-distribute the spoils to their friends and family, clan and tribe.

    • EarlyBird

      I don't know if I'm ready to call the secularists fighting Morsi "Jeffersonian," but the idea that they're merely representatives of tribes fighting for "theirs," like Iraqis and others seem to be, isn't true either

      Egypt is far more modern and cosmopolitan, with real connections to the outside world. As such, the secularlists are far more "political" than tribal. Don't forget that the slogans being shouted during those 18 days of revolution in Tahrir Square had nothing to do with tribe or religion, but were exactly what a normal secular middle class people would want: free expression, an end of repressive government, political parties, free elections, a free economy that is not controlled by corrupt autocrats.

      Surely the MB was waiting quietly in the wings, and were ready to run a serious campaign, only because they were the only organized party which existed, however illegally, during Mubarak's reign.

    • EarlyBird

      Oh, let me add that the real power is and always has been, including during Mubarak, the military. The military will likely call a state emergency, dump Morsi, and take over. And the last thing they want is to wage war on Israel, sponsor Islamist terror, or put Egypt under Sharia law. Their first and last interest is the economy, which the military owns nearly half of. They are the elites, not the political class, and least of all upstart Morsi.

  • Willy Rho

    Barack Obama is a Muslim, he has worn a Muslim "Faith Ring" since 1981. He re-used it as a wedding ring when he married Michelle. It Declares the first half of the Shahada, "There is no God except Allah". The second half is, "and Mohammed is his Prophet". Anyone that says those two phrases with Conviction is instantly a Muslim and to reject that oath later is subject to a sentence of death, preferably by beheading. Now, tell me Truly, would a Christian wear that Ring? When a Christian believes Jesus is/was anointed with the Holy Spirit of Lord G-d Almighty Jeh-vah, G-d and Jesus are one and the same Spirit. Absolutely not, Barack Obama is a Liar and therefore a Son of Sat Tan. Anyone that cannot see he is a Muslim is Blinded by the BS.

  • Tusense96761

    The people of Egypt have a right to be upset and overthrowing Morsi and they can blame Obama and Hillary Clinton their ineptness in bringing this leader to power in their country. This is criminal, if only congress would do their job and get this criminal Obama out of our White House. He is a fraud, not a legitimate president causing harm around the world, bringing our enemies to power.