Stop Watching You? Why?


CAIR_KYR_Pocket_Guides-646x511The Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) announced in a press release Monday that “on Saturday, October 26, CAIR will join thousands of civil rights activists participating in the ‘Stop Watching Us’ rally against mass surveillance at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C.”

The ralliers will demand “that Congress provide transparency, accountability and reform of the NSA’s mass domestic surveillance that collects and stores the phone records and Internet activity of people in the United States.”

Congress should indeed provide transparency, accountability and reform of the NSA’s mass domestic surveillance that collects and stores the phone records and Internet activity of people in the United States. There is no reason for the NSA to be conducting surveillance on such a massive basis; it is a symptom of the pervasive refusal to face the reality and magnitude of the jihad threat. Because the NSA cannot admit that there is a particular threat coming from people who would be likely to frequent mosques and Islamic centers, it has to conduct surveillance on virtually everyone.

However, the chief opponents of this effort have been Leftist and Islamic supremacist groups that have opposed every counter-terror measure that has ever been proposed, as well as libertarian groups that persist in the delusion that if American power is removed from Muslim countries, the jihad against the U.S. will cease. CAIR’s press release claims:

The rally is supported by the StopWatching.us coalition, a group of more than 100 public advocacy organizations and companies from across the political spectrum. Coalition members include the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Access, ACLU, Bill of Rights Defense Committee, the Center for Democracy and Technology, Code Pink, Demand Progress, EFF, Fight for the Future, Free Press, FreedomWorks, the Libertarian Party, Mozilla, Public Knowledge, reddit, Restore the Fourth, Students for Liberty, ThoughtWorks, and many more.

The Atlantic Wire has called the StopWatching.us coalition “perhaps the most diverse collection of groups in the modern history of American politics.”…

These groups, particularly ones like the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), have considerable power and influence in Obama-era Washington, and are likely to be in a position to know whether or not this surveillance is proving to be effective in identifying and stopping jihad plots. That they oppose it is telling, since they’ve always opposed effective counter-terror measures.

Likewise, the pivotal role of Glenn Greenwald and other manifestly pro-jihad hard Leftist “journalists” brings out another aspect of this whole affair: CAIR, for which Greenwald is an eager stooge, not only wants the NSA surveillance ended, but is also campaigning against NYPD surveillance of mosques, and any and every program that impedes the steady advance of the jihad.

That doesn’t make me in favor of the NSA surveillance — but if free people manage to end it, it will have to be succeeded by realistic and legal law enforcement procedures to protect us from Islamic jihadists and supremacists. Nothing is much less likely, but it needs to be stated anyway in case sanity ever returns to the public discourse.

Right now, however, the Obama Administration has shown itself to be far more concerned with a chimerical terror threat from “right-wing extremists” than with the actual one from Islamic jihadists. In April 2013 “the U.S. Army listed Evangelical Christianity and Catholicism as examples of religious extremism along with Al Qaeda and Hamas during a briefing with an Army Reserve unit based in Pennsylvania….The incident occurred during an Army Reserve Equal Opportunity training brief on extremism.”

The list was headed “Religious Extremism”; topping it was “Evangelical Christianity (U.S./Christian),” followed by “Ikhwan or Muslim Brotherhood (Egypt/Muslim)” and then “Ultra-Orthodox” (Israel/Judaism),” making for a politically correct trifecta of the three main monotheistic religions. Also on the list were “Al Quaeda [sic] (Transnational/Islam)’; “Hamas (Palestinian/Islamist)”; Abu Sayyah [sic] (Philippines/Islam)”; “Ku Klux Klan (U.S/Christian)”; and “Catholicism (U.S./Christian),” among others.

The list also included “Islamophobia” as a form of “religious extremism” – apparently based on the by-then mainstream assumption that those who opposed the global jihad and Islamic supremacism were Christian fanatics motivated only by some quest for religious one-upmanship.

The idea that there was any factor unifying these disparate groups was howlingly absurd, and the list would have been laughable if it had not come from the U.S. Army. Apparently this politically manipulative and ridiculous nonsense was what replaced the truthful information about Islam and jihad that had previously been found in counterterror training material.

The danger therefore is that this NSA surveillance will be used against patriotic Americans who oppose the regime, rather than against those who threaten the safety and security of Americans, and who are working at “eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within, and sabotaging its miserable house” — in the words of a captured internal Muslim Brotherhood document outlining its strategic goals for the United States.

That is why the NSA should be reined in, but not so as to allow jihadists a free hand. It should be replaced by sane and Constitutional, albeit politically incorrect, surveillance of the sources of the genuine threat. Of course, for that to happen, there would have to be a sea change in Washington, and a fundamental alteration in the outlook of both major parties. Nothing, however, is less likely to happen than that.

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  • David

    AIPAC has done more to endanger America than any supposedly “Islamist-linked” group in the US. AIPAC’s abuse of position, it’s eternal abuse of the phrase “anti-Semitic”, it’s belligerent attacks on pro-justice congressmen, it’s financial and political corruption are all factors which have pushed America into endless horrific and stupid wars to defend some tinpot dictatorship state calling itself Israel…at the cost of billions of taxpayer dollars and thousands of American lives.

    Lets start with the American pro-Israel lobby first- let’s spy on them; they’ve done far more damage to America than Al Qaeda ever could.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Get lost. If you think they don’t already spy on AIPAC, well what can I say. AIPAC is “just as bad” as the tea party movement.

      “Lets start with the American pro-Israel lobby first- let’s spy on them; they’ve done far more damage to America than Al Qaeda ever could.”

      Are you stupid or mal-educated?

      • Hass

        I think he’s both.

      • David

        Word of advice: behave online the way you would in front of the person you’re addressing. If you’d ordinarily tell a stranger to “get lost” for no reason then carry on. My suspicion is you wouldn’t. Personally I think a sign of the “mal-education” you allude to is actually in your own behaviour: random abuse of strangers.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          When I run in to demented psychopaths, I like to clear them out quickly.

          It was not random.

    • J Simson

      When was the last time you saw Jews flying planes into American skyscrapers?
      Blowing up Americans running a marathon?
      Food for thought.

      When did you ever hear Jews saying don’t listen to our Shuls? Go ahead listen to Jews praying in Shul. See if we care. We have nothing to hide!
      Eavesdrop on AIPAC too. We have nothing to hide. We say what we think and mean what we say.

      • Raymond_in_DC

        No need to spy. The main service at my synagogue has a “dial-in” service for those unable to come in person, allowing the house-bound and anyone else to follow the service. Like J says, nothing to hide.

      • David

        KING DAVID HOTEL BOMBING! Read some history! The Israelis INVENTED modern terrorism!

    • Hass

      I know I know, it’s hard to live with a lobotomy.

      • David

        Guy without even a basic grasp of English grammar is accusing others of being ignorant. Now that’s amusing! Get yourself a tertiary education, you hick.

      • Hass

        That’s your reply? Insult my second language grammar?

        And we don’t have hicks in Aus. You wanker you!

    • Gee

      Ah yes another racist moron that believes that civil rights don’t apply to Jews. Any other groups that you feel shouldn’t have the same rights as you?

      You are the epitome of an anti-Semite

      • Tanks-a-lot

        When do Jews ever assimilate and stop being part of their separate tribe?

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Jews never bombed the Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma City.

          national Socialists did that.

          When will socialists like “Tanks-a-lot” leave the US and move to his Turd Reich?

        • Gee

          Right after the Christians do the same.

          Why do we have to? What is wrong with believing as we choose? It happens to be part of the 1st Amendment to the Constitution.

          Why are you so against the Constitution?

      • David

        I don’t mind being called a moron by someone who freely throws around ad hominem diatribes; it merely underlines your own ignorance for others to see.

        But as for calling me an anti-Semite. Nah. Sorry, I’m an anti-Israeli government-ist, and certainly an anti-Zionist (like so many Jews themselves are, actually).

        In Europe, calling someone an anti-Semite is an extremely serious matter because unlike Americans we here actually saw what anti-semitism does; in America it’s just another cheapened catchphrase in a shameless American political landscape which thrives on violence and public acts of humiliation and puerility.

        So get it right: I don’t give a damn what religion the Israeli cabinet is, I care that they’re overseeing mass murder and ethnic cleansing in a land they stole from other people while murdering British soldiers who had just finished fighting a war to liberate THEM!

    • Tanks-a-lot

      It’s not the PRO Israel Jews you need to worry about. The Jews that try to make Israel as multiculti as Europe and North America are the Jews to worry about most.

      Leftist multicult Jews are Israel’s (and all western nations) most dangerous enemy

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Those are JINO.

        Jews In Name Only.

        I’d like to see the neteuri karta collaborators move to Gaza.

        That should be interesting.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        AND Leftist multicult Christians AND Leftist multicult atheists AND Leftist multicult racists like Rev. Wright, Rev. Sharpton, Sinister Louie FarrahKLAN.

      • ziggy zoggy

        How are Jewish lefties more of a threat than Gentile lefties, considering there are so many more Gentiles?

        Could that be your skinhead ideology talking?

        • Tanks-a-lot

          nope
          What happens every time Jews help Communism rise and take hold? Jews outsmart themselves into being punished by God. If it takes non-Jews to wrest control of a marxist state to punish Jews for turning against God, then so be it.

          Remember, Stalin shipped Jews to Hitler before the Hitler betrayed Stalin.

          The point is, Jews might try rejecting marxism. It always ends in dead Jews among others.

          And yes, God is punishing Jews collectively because that’s God’s tradition.

    • SCREW SOCIALISM

      Daoud,

      Monitor AIPAC and CAIR and and Code Pinko, MoveOn, Occupy X and so..

      I’m all for it.

      AIPAC doesn’t defend nidal hassan of the Fort Hood massacre. CAIR DOES.

      • David

        Thanks for calling me “Daoud” but sadly I’m 100% Irish Roman Catholic. My great grandfather was an English officer in the Royal Navy who shelled Alexandria though, so that probably suffices as “Arabic enough!” in your eyes.

        Use your professor google to look up the King David Hotel and the Irgun. Israel was born out of the first true wave of modern terrorism. Even after they had their “state” they continued sending mail bombs to murder British military and civilian personnel.

        I call that a track record of what one can accurately label “Jewish terrorism”.

    • roccolore

      Liberal fascists like you are anti-Jewish and pro-terrorists.

      • David

        Read up on AIPAC and read the constitution of the United States. AIPAC is a disgusting, corrupt organisation which has directly endangered the American nation by forcing politicians to back the apartheid state of Israel or face vilification come Election Day. You use the term “liberal fascist” because you heard it on Fox News or because that moral pervert Bill O’Reilly uses it; you don’t actually have even a basic understanding of fascism.

        To you the world is simple: kill or be killed. And that’s why you’re so unhappy with your life. Get outside and breathe and ask yourself if injustice is a good or bad thing.

        • roccolore

          AIPAC never funded a suicide bomber. CAIR leaders were convicted of funding Hamas. You Democrats support the REAL apartheid that is Islam. You support the subjugation of women and hanging of gays in the Muslim world.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Dem Joos have harmed America more than the islamopithecines? All in an attempt to aid Israel?

      See, that right there is insane.

      And don’t get me started on how anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist our Warmonger in Chief is. Unless you believe he committed multiple acts of war against Pakistan, Yemen, Mauritania and Libya to help his good buddies in Israel.

    • N. Wasse

      Members of AIPAC do not hijack planes and crash them in buildings leading to the death of thousands of innocent victims al-Qaeda? that is what they did
      Jews do not have holy wars! The God of al-Qaeda the so called Allah? he tells his followers to wage holy wars, terrorize his enemies and then he demands that he should get 1/5 of the loot collected from infidels (and no I’m not kidding you)

      • David

        American citizens are not safe at home nor abroad now. You’re despised and vilified as the greatest cause of terrorism. That is a tragic end to a once-great nation I personally love. I’ve no issue with America, I love the place. But Americans are indeed waking up to the shocking level of stupidity involved when a nation backs a tiny, vicious state like Israel in the face of international condemnation; long story short: AIPAC has spent 40 years blackmailing congressmen and senators into silence and now the Arabic world has had enough. Have you ever bothered to watch the early interviews of Bin Laden?? His constant warning was simple: “If America continues to support Israeli violence in Paleatine we will attack America”. So yes, AIPAC and its friends have literally endangered the US and caused it more harm than any group on earth. Let the Israelis fight their own damned war with their own sons and their own money instead of US taxpayers’ hard-earned cash.

        • N. Wasse

          America existed since 1776. Islam? it has been a menace to humanity including your own ancestors Mr Arab wannabe.

          Israel has nothing to do with the Arabs or their imperialism. And you know what? the Arabs tell us that they came from al-Hijaz right? then they are more than welcome to go back where they came from and good riddance
          I urge you to leave Islam and be free from the Arabs and their imperialism

  • Ammianus

    “That is why the NSA should be reined in, but not so as to allow jihadists a free hand. It should be replaced by sane and Constitutional, albeit politically incorrect, surveillance of the sources of the genuine threat. Of course, for that to happen, there would have to be a sea change in Washington, and a fundamental alteration in the outlook of both major parties. Nothing, however, is less likely to happen than that.”
    Despair is never good counsel. We must work to take back the Senate even if it means supporting some (many?) flawed incumbents. Even the McCains have a purpose in this. Then we must work to educate and or remove from within our ranks the naïve and politically correct. I know it must be tiresome to work so hard for so little effect, but never encourage us to give in Mr. Spencer.

    • J.

      With what’s happened to the United States I seriously doubt that would happen. Robert Spencer is being realistic here, as far as I know majority of the people here don’t care and will eat up anything that is politically correct so as not to look like a out of its flock. Subversion had been long at work about 5-6 generations maybe longer. For this kind of monumental change to happen there would have to be a mass uprising or cataclysmic events would have to take place, even then the ruler and principality has design the house of cards to fall into their hand, and ultimately into God’s hand, if it is the will of God to fulfill His Word, you nor the whole world will stop Him.

  • tagalog

    As people who value liberty and limited government, we should be opposed to surveillance in principle. Why? Not because there are no bad people who need to be watched; of course there are, but because (and look at the old Soviet Union and the PRC in the late 1940s and 1950s for two glaring examples) sometimes government ideologues think the people need to be different from what they are in order to meet the needs of their ideology, and surveilling the people is one way to monitor compliance or non-compliance with the current understanding of things. If there was ever a risk in America of that kind of thing, this is the time for that risk.

    Read Robert Jay Lifton’s well-known psychological study, Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: A Study of “Brainwashing” in China, or Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four.

    • ziggy zoggy

      Yes. The Obama Administration wants us to be correct in our thoughts.

  • ziggy zoggy

    Spencer,

    The NSA doesn’t surveil everybody so it can hide the fact that muslims are a particular terrorist threat. It is spying on all of us because the Obama Administration wants detailed information on political dissidents and the other Americans on his ever expanding enemies list. And boy, does he use that information against us.

    Islam has no better friend and promoter than Obama.

  • Transplanted ‘Nuck

    Wow, an article from the bizarro world.