U.S. Army Equates Catholicism and Evangelical Christianity with al-Qaeda and Hamas

Robert Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch and author of the New York Times bestsellers The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) and The Truth About Muhammad. His latest book, Arab Winter Comes to America: The Truth About the War We're In, is now available.


Fox News reported last week that “the U.S. Army listed Evangelical Christianity and Catholicism as examples of religious extremism along with Al Qaeda and Hamas during a briefing with an Army Reserve unit based in Pennsylvania….The incident occurred during an Army Reserve Equal Opportunity training brief on extremism.”

The list is headed “Religious Extremism”; heading it is “Evangelical Christianity (U.S./Christian),” followed by “Ikhwan or Muslim Brotherhood (Egypt/Muslim)” and then “Ultra-Orthodox” (Israel/Judaism),” making for a politically correct trifecta of the three main monotheistic religions. Also on the list are “Al Quaeda [sic] (Transnational/Islam)’; “Hamas (Palestinian/Islamist)”; Abu Sayyah [sic] (Philippines/Islam)”; “Ku Klux Klan (U.S/Christian)”; and “Catholicism (U.S./Christian),” among others.

The list also includes “Islamophobia” as a form of “religious extremism” – apparently based on the assumption, common among Leftists, that those who oppose the global jihad and Islamic supremacism are Christian fanatics motivated only by some quest for religious one-upmanship.

The idea that there is any factor unifying these disparate groups is howlingly absurd, and this list would be laughable if it weren’t coming from the U.S. Army. Apparently this is the politically manipulative and ridiculous nonsense that has replaced truthful information about Islam and jihad. On October 19, 2011, the Executive Director of an Islamic organization called Muslim Advocates, Farhana Khera, wrote a letter to Barack Obama’s then-Deputy National Security Advisor for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism and current CIA director John Brennan. It was signed by 57 organizations, including many with ties to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR); the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA); Islamic Relief USA; the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA); the Muslim American Society (MAS); and the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC).

The letter denounced U.S. government agencies’ “use of biased, false and highly offensive training materials about Muslims and Islam.” Ignoring the factual accuracy of the material about which they were complaining, the Muslim groups signing the letter demanded that the task force “purge all federal government training materials of biased materials”; “implement a mandatory re-training program for FBI agents, U.S. Army officers, and all federal, state and local law enforcement who have been subjected to biased training”; and more to ensure that only the message about Islam and jihad preferred by the signatories would get through to intelligence and law enforcement agents.

The very same day that Khera sent her letter, Deputy U.S. Attorney General James Cole declared at a conference in Washington that he had “recently directed all components of the Department of Justice to re-evaluate their training efforts in a range of areas, from community outreach to national security.” This “reevaluation” removed all references to Islam in connection with any examination of Islamic jihad terror activity. The Obama administration placed off-limits any investigation of the beliefs, motives and goals of jihad terrorists. Accordingly, in February 2012, the government purged more than 1,000 documents and presentations previously used in training programs that the Muslim groups had deemed inaccurate or offensive to Muslims.

And now we see what the Obama administration has replaced that material with. The implications of the U.S. Army’s “Religious Extremism” list are quite ominous. Evangelical Christianity, Catholicism and “Islamophobia” are forms of “Religious Extremism” on par with al-Qaeda and Hamas? Then how long will it be before the Obama administration goes to war against them, as it has repeatedly declared that it is at war with al-Qaeda?

Note also: Obama has repeated many, many times that we are not at war with Islam, and the mainstream media line is that to suggest otherwise would be evidence of “hatred” and “bigotry.” But apparently it is not “hatred” and “bigotry” for the U.S. to declare that Catholicism is the same sort of thing as al-Qaeda. Now, the list does include “Sunni Muslims,” but specifies those in Iraq — we already know that there is no possible way that the Obama administrations means to classify all Sunni Muslims as “extremists.”

And the list also apparently specifies that only Catholicism in the U.S. is a form of “religious extremism.” But that’s bad enough: where are the Catholics flying planes into buildings, bombing Baptist churches, and threatening to conquer the nation and subjugate non-Catholics under the rule of church law?

This is not going to end well.

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  • Mary Sue

    Just goes to show that Obummer's hangers-on in his administration have no idea what "religious extremism" is.

    • JacksonPearson

      They know exactly what and who is extreme.
      The problem is, Obama has thrown the government's doors wide open to the Muslim Brotherhood. They've infiltrated every cornor of upper government, including the Pentagon. They've influenced the rules of engagement of our military in battle. e.g., Ever since Obama took office, the death and casualty rate in Afghanistan have skyrocketed.
      http://shariafreeusa.com/muslim-brotherhood-in-am

    • http://twitter.com/djmyers3 @djmyers3

      That's because the left is the religion of government. They worship at the altar of the legislature and demand strict adherence to their scripture. Their collection plate is the IRS complete with a small army of collection plate passers who will wreck your life if you don't tithe to their satisfaction. Their supreme being is the state, a collection of human beings forming an amoral body of power and money granted to them by their benefactors.

  • Alvaro

    The truth obviously offends many Muslims, so they practice the art of Taqqyia to the point where they can tell lie after lie about Islam without blinking an eye.

    And since these Muslims are offended by the truth, we must lie back to them and pretend that their lies are truth to make them content.

    Is the world going mad?

    • defcon 4

      The dishonesty and hypocrisy w/which muslimes and their useful tools defend islamofascism is disgusting isn't it? I'd vote to bring back the House Committee on Unamerican Activities or at least ABSCAM but I'm not sure there are enough honest politicians, judges or law enforcement officials to carry off the investigations anymore…

    • SSmith

      Yes, or rather it has already gone mad. I have lived long enough to see it going totally insane when it was not sane to start with, just much saner than now !

      This Christian extremist rubbish is the last straw of course. Where are they? Running off to Mass or Bible studies plotting the overthrow of the West through terrorism,, blowing themselves up screaming the Name of Jesus,and by using deceptive tactics, and to replace the world's secular laws with religious law ? It is absurd and preposterous to say the least and another ploy of Sharia ruling by stealth.
      If we don't watch out now, and protest all this insanity,we will soon be overtaken by Islam and war will be the only way out as has so often happened throughout history

      • Drakken

        War, whether we like it or not is coming, it will be us western infidels against islam of whatever stripe. PC and this multicultural stupidity and moral equivilance is making war enevitable, not diminishing it.

  • Chezwick

    During the "bad old days" of the Bush administration, Robert was payed to do seminars on Jihad, lending his expertise to the military, the FBI, and other government agencies. After Barry was elected, he became personna non grata. From there, we went to "man-made disasters", "overseas contingency operations", and "work-place violence"….and now, THIS!!!

    I've always had great respect for our military as an institution….which is why this is so frigg'n heartbreaking. Another brick in the wall,…another nail in the coffin of Western civilization.

    • Drakken

      It is alwas darkest before dawn my friend, it is amazing that it takes a act of war to wake up the sleeeping giant to stop this madness, make no mistake this is going to get worse.

      • Chezwick

        Problem is, Drak old buddy, Sept 11, 2001, WAS an "act of war",….and far from "waking up", we're more politically-correct today than ever. But we need your kind of optimism….otherwise, all is lost.

        • Drakken

          Well Chez, if you look at this in a a historical perspective, you will see America beyond the tipping point. By this this I mean economic crisis/religious/ethnic strife boiling beneath the surface, and when the whole thing fails, there is going to be a lot of pain and suffering to go around and the public who has gotten fat,lazy and complacent will come out swinging because they will have seen the carnage wrought by pols and liberal do gooders who thought they knew better than anyone else. The Romans lynched their senators for betraying them, I honestly believe we will do the same thing in order to get good men and women back in the drivers seat once again. Bottom line, we are in for a very nasty and rude awaking, and hopefully we end up on the other side of this mess in better shape than we are now.

          • Chezwick

            Hard to argue with anything you've just said, Drak. I certainly agree, we've yet to hit bottom,…and yes, it WILL be quite a "rude awakening" (how pathetic that it will be so, given all the economic/financial indicators we have for the coming apocalypse). I just hope that by the time the sh*t hits the fan, we're not SO "fat, lazy, and complacent" that we've got nothing left in the tank (both physically and psychologically) to pull ourselves together.

            One note of hope….Russia in the 90s was an absolute basket-case. Inflation had wiped out the life's savings of EVERYONE of modest means and it seemed like the country was irrevocably on the road to economic ruin. But it's come a long way back and today, it's finances are in better shape than ours.

          • Drakken

            Isn't it ironic that Russia is going capitolistic while we in the west go communistic?

  • κατεργάζομαι

    Hegel’s dialectic is the tool which manipulates us into a frenzied circular pattern of thought and action.

    Remember, Attorney General Holder refused to prosecute the New Black Panthers voter intimidation, even though it was caught on video. The Black mob violence prevalent in Chicago and coming to a city near you is fobbed off by The Obama administration, who is calling Nidal Malik Hasan's brutal mass shooting with 13 counts of premeditated murder…."An act of work-place violence."

    Today the dialectic is active in every political issue that encourages taking sides. We can see it in environmentalists instigating conflicts against private property owners, in democrats against republicans, in greens against libertarians, in communists against socialists, in neo-cons against traditional conservatives, in community activists against individuals, in pro-choice versus pro-life, in Christians against Muslims, in isolationists versus interventionists, in peace activists against war hawks.

    The Hegelian dialectic is the framework Obama uses for guiding our thoughts and actions into conflicts that lead us to a predetermined solution.

    • κατεργάζομαι

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      NOTE: The above comment required EIGHT HOURS for approval,
      - and then; ONLY after I specifically requested a review of their "filters" policy regarding the post's content.

    • tish59

      Wow! Well-said! I will continue to ruminate on it. Excellent!

  • κατεργάζομαι

    ……………"A lie is not a lie if it furthers the cause." ~ Hegelian Marxism 101

    ~ There was no voter intimidation of White voters by The New Black Panthers.

    ~ Nidal Malik Hasan's brutal mass shooting with 13 counts of premeditated murder was just
    …."An act of work-place violence."

    ~ What Chicago Black m0b-violence?

  • Toni_Pereira

    Why not list also some quasi-religious groups like PETA and fringe environmentalist that some of O'bama's Czars are so fond of??

    • Drakken

      Because those folks support their messiah so it doesn't fit the narrative.

      • Toni_Pereira

        Indeed! Hopefully this one won't rise from the dead…

    • Walt

      Where in the world do you get PETA being a quasi-religious group?

  • http://www.adinakutnicki.com AdinaK

    Have said it before, but will repeat it as long as necessary – the Radical/Islamist-in-Chief has deconstructed America as a hyper-power, and one sure way to do it is to infect its high command – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/08/09/barack-hussei
    NOT only that, but the Pentagon's dhimmification is almost a done deal, hence, its Orwellian comparison of Christianity to barbaric Islamism – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/09/01/us-general-de

    A world tragedy & travesty! The lights are getting dimmer….

    Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/

  • john spielman

    does anyone know the email address for the US army (I tried the web page but it doesn't list one that is appropriate) to register a complaint against such ridiculous BS. Imagine what General George Patton would say if he were alive!

  • cxt

    What nonsense.

    It may well be tha they election–twice, of Obama was simply a side effect of a deeper problem with the nation.

    Sloppy thinking and moral equivlence passing for "deep thought" and "fairness" being 2 that come to mind.

  • cxt

    BTW the "what nonsense" applies to wat the military is doing NOT the article. Re-read the post and realized that it could be taken other than I meant–sorry.

  • geneww1938

    Each religion has their god(s).

    Biblical Christians know their God created this universe, have proof He authored the Bible and gave His Son to enable eternal life for believers. These believers live free from the guilt [and penalty] of past, present and future sins. Their confidence in assured by the proven resurrection of Jesus some 1980 years ago.

    Catholics have their saints, pope, Mary and her god-son [contrary to Biblical doctrine]. Most lack the conviction of Biblical truths.

    Muslims have Allah, along with his Koran, prophets and followers, that hate everything related to Biblical truths .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y

    Other religions also serve gods that are man fabricated and have no proven evidence of eternal life.

    • kasandra

      So what? The fact is that its the Muslims that are killing people all over the world in the name of Islamic supremacy. I don't care who worships what as long as they leave me alone to worship, or not, as I please. Equating Catholics, Evangelical Christians and Orthodox Jewry with fundamentalist Islam (or, as I like to call it, Islam) is absourd.

    • nightspore

      Better learn something about the ROP before posting these foolish equivalences (a classical leftwing rhetorical ploy by the way – though I've never seen this version before). And if you persist on this equivalence jag, try finding a place in the Bible where it says that the wives and daughters of unbelievers can be raped and sold into slavery. You'll need that in order to complete your task.

    • Mike S

      Hahahahahaha you're every bit as delusional as all the idiots in all the other religions. it figures that you would believe you're right and they're wrong. That's faith for you… proof? You don't have a single shred of proof !!!! The bible is a good STORY and that's all it is. PROOF !!!! hahahahahahaha

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "The bible is a good STORY and that's all it is. PROOF !!!! hahahahahahaha"

        It's a book that points to archaeological evidence. If you claim it is just like all others it proves your ignorance. Beyond any doubt. You can examine the evidence and then still be skeptical, but your statement, as I said, proves beyond any doubt that you have no clue as to what you're talking about.

  • Pieder Beeli

    All people are equally religious. It is just that multiculturalism adds incoherency to its religion ("it's all good"). The 600 lbs question in the room concerning politics (and any other subject) is the God question. There is no escaping God. Those who argue for the separation of faith and state function to unite atheism with the state. Either God will be our national God or an unalienable rights denying Darwinian humanistic collective will be our national god. Obama's war against "nature and nature's God" continues. Believe the religious belief that "nothing times nobody equals everything" and you have become mainstream. But I for one do not have the faith for such propositions. See "The Myth of Religious Neutrality" by Roy Clauser.

  • Atikva

    Why has my post disappeared?

    While I resent being matched with muslim terrorist organizations, as a Catholic I consider it an honor to be recognized as an opponent to Mr. Obama's policies to transform America into an islamo-socialist State.

  • Trevor

    The British and now the American Empires, the real "Evil Empires" have been the cause of millions of deaths the world over….And what's the common denominator in this?

    They both did so under the guise of "Christianity"

    • defcon 4

      The above might be true, but over the last hundred years it's not. Because the only religion carrying out mass murder in the name of their prophet of death is islam. Don't believe me? Then move your worthless, whinging arse to the nearest islamofascist state and you'll never have to worry about the scary CHristians ever again…

      • reader

        Trevor is a troll pointless to feed.

      • Trevor

        Don't be absurd European empires and latterly the American Empire have murdered more people around the globe in the past one hundred years than anyone else.

        • Drakken

          So what your really saying is that your a self hating, self loathing white hoping to gain favor by groveling at the feet of our enemies in the hope they will spare you? The name Quisling comes to mind where your concerned boy.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "So what your really saying is that your a self hating, self loathing white hoping to gain favor by groveling at the feet of our enemies in the hope they will spare you? The name Quisling comes to mind where your concerned boy."

            He's a dhimmi that believes in sharia even without knowing what it is. He's also a communist. He's a typical 0'Bama clone regardless of skin color or physical features.

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Time to turn that empire power onto islamofascism.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Don't be absurd European empires and latterly the American Empire have murdered more people around the globe in the past one hundred years than anyone else."

          Most were killed in pursuit of justice. It's unfortunate that the world is full of evil people and the virtuous strong can not run from evil so that they may later claim to be innocent. That would be evil to do.

          But hey, you're just a drunk young troll so we don't expect you to understand.

    • Rifleman

      Are you implying the soviet union wasn't evil, and wasn't a real empire? Where the USA and us evil Christians had our way, third world nations developed into prosperous first world nations, like South Korea. Just look to the armpits of the world on every continent, like North Korea, to see what the world got when the left had their way.

      Leftist icon Rachel Carson caused the deaths of tens of millions worldwide practically all by herself. The commies killed more Vietnamese in three years of 'peace,' than the USA did in 10 years of war. Trading a right wing dictator that kills or imprisons thousands of his own people for a left wing dictator that kills millions of his own people and exports the mass murder to neighboring countries isn't progress.

      • Trevor

        Ah the old "lesser of two evils" argument.

        Newsflash buddy. The lesser of two evils is still evil….And you call yourself a "Christian"

        • Drakken

          If you support and defend our enemies, that makes you our enemy, keep that in mind.

          • Trevor

            Your bogeymen are mostly a figment of your imagination…or at least they are until you attack countries under false pretenses then and only then do they become your enemies.

          • Drakken

            Islam has always been an enemy of the west and any other culture and religion since mohamed crawled out of the desert and screwed his first 9 year old, so your denial of reality and giving the enemy moral equivilance really is quite astounding.

          • Trevor

            What you mean like "Christianity" did to European Pagans. Maybe you should ask the Irish or Norwegians or Scots or Welsh what religion was their enemy?

            Maybe you could also ask Iraqis about how U.S soldiers raped their teenage girls…..If you can't make it to Iraq then try and ask the same question to the Vietnamese.

            All nutters are the same be they Islamic or Christian.

          • Mary Sue

            No, they're not.

          • Trevor

            Men are trying to talk here, Mary Sue. So if you could just pipe down to less than a peep that would be great.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Men are trying to talk here, Mary Sue. So if you could just pipe down to less than a peep that would be great."

            Holy crap, an openly misogynist leftist. Good thing he's not using his full name.

          • Defcon 4

            HOw muslime of you "Trevor".

          • ChrisNichols

            I almost forget, you do know that while pagans were overrunning Europe after the collpase of the Roman Empire, it was Christian monks that preserved most of the texts that were destroyed elsewhere, as well as actually preserving literacy. Of course you do, but it doesn't fit the narrative now does it?

          • Trevor

            Really…I'm pretty sure the Catholic Church tried their damnedest to stop people from reading. But hey why let facts like that get in the way of your nutjob ramblings.

          • ChrisNichols

            That was a well thought out response complete with many historical points of reference. Well done. So I guess you don't know what I am talking about. I'm pretty sure the Catholic church has founded quite a few Universities and hospitals around the world too.

          • Drakken

            I will take our western judeo/christian civilization over anything anybody has to offer, and I don't oppologize for what my ancestors did, love ours and eff theirs. We came, we saw, we conquered. As for the muslim Iraqis? Obiously you never served in uniform so I could care less of your support of effing muslim Iraqi's.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "What you mean like "Christianity" did to European Pagans."

            Mr. collectivist, your arguments end with the question of who is right. If Allah is god then the jihadis are correct to do what they do. That is why they do it.

            You must believe in allah. You're dead wrong. You support ultimate evil. Therefore we can treat you like every other resident of Bizarro world.

          • Drakken

            You just made poor little Trevors mind have a meltdown, poor leftarded sap.

          • Defcon 4

            In the here and now what are your islamofascist buddies doing to infidels/kufrs in Thailand, Burma, Bangladesh, Pakistain, Nigeria, Egypt, Syria etc.? Does ethnic cleansing ring a bell? Excepting Israel, practically the entire Jewish population of the Mid-East and N. Africa has been ethnically cleansed by islamofascist persecution and murder and now these same islamofascists (or perhaps a younger generation) are doing the same thing to Christians. Oh and let's not talk about what Iran has done to the Bahais.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "All nutters are the same be they Islamic or Christian."

            That might seem true to a very ignorant and simple-minded person. From the earth all of the other planets in this solar system seem round. Not much else to see if you have no ability to discern distinctions.

            But then again you don't want to see distinctions. You're a drunk little boy that loves to hate while acting like he has superior morals…morals he inherited from Judeo Christian prophets after they were tainted by lying atheists.

            You're also a good subservient sharia-compliant dhimmi and that means according to Islam, you're an Islamic Christian.

          • defcon 4

            He could be merely another lying muslime, it's not like there's any shortage of those in the world…

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "He could be merely another lying muslime, it's not like there's any shortage of those in the world…"

            I agree. He's been exposed to Christian culture from the perspective of "anti-colonial" ideology. Culturally he's a sharia compliant Westerner which makes him an "Islamic Christian" to the jihadis.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Your bogeymen are mostly a figment of your imagination…"

            That's hilarious but sick. So if Jihadis have killed how many people, and communists that many more, how many bogeyman do you think exist in our minds? What are the stats on that?

            Come to think of it, what evidence do you have AT ALL that any of them are imaginary since even you concede that many are not.

            "..or at least they are until you attack countries under false pretenses then and only then do they become your enemies."

            Because the Turkish empire was peaceful until the US Marines attacked them, setting the stage for centuries of war all due to "American imperialism" dating back to what date mr. trevor?

            Anything we have done or anywhere we have been will be lied about and used as pretext for aggression today. You are on the side of evil.

            This is not the first time you've been informed.

        • Rifleman

          I didn't say the USA was evil, you did, and you're wrong.

          • Trevor

            You implied it and they are.

            Just to be clear. The American people aren't evil, a little bit brainwashed sure, but not evil. However the "Invisible Junta" well that's a different story.

          • Mary Sue

            How can the USA be evil if the American People aren't evil? Doesn't the People elect the US Government? Logic is clearly not your strong suit.

          • Trevor

            You know, Mary Sue, if you kept hush i'd think you only half as silly.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "You know, Mary Sue, if you kept hush i'd think you only half as silly."

            Here's another retread that needs to keep his own advice first.

          • defcon 4

            Yes she should just put on a black hefty bag and keep her mouth shut because that's the role of women in islam isn't it Ahmed?

          • Rifleman

            I implied sarcasm. You said we were/are an evil empire. I say not only were we not evil, we don't even fit the definition of an empire. Empires collect tribute, we pay it. Empires take resources, we buy them. Empires don't leave countries when asked, we do. We're the anti-empire, if anything.

            The British had an empire, but unlike every other empire in human history, they gave it up on their own accord. It's hard to call them evil without forgetting theirs (built on Christian, Roman, Greek, and Judaic though) was the thought that made slavery and empire bad words.

            If you want to see a funny look cross the faces of the gals you know celebrating the death of Lady Thatcher, ask them how many nations in the history of the world were led by women? That look is them thinking, and who knows, maybe they'll keep on thinking, instead of regurgitating their 'education'.

            Women have been leading in Britain since the Romans showed up and probably before. Britain has been way ahead of the curve, in many respects, anyone calling themselves a feminist should know better.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "You implied it and they are."

            Dreaming is free, but you'll end up in hell if you don't wake up.

            "However the "Invisible Junta" well that's a different story."

            When you talk about the bogeyman we can see that you are in fact projecting your own fears and flaws. Not that we're surprised.

          • Drakken

            This is what our current education system has spawned, no critical thinking skills whatsoever.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Ah the old "lesser of two evils" argument."

          Fighting evil is not ipso facto evil. Your premise is false.

    • hank rearden

      Where and when?

      • Trevor

        lol 'Hank Rearend'

        • SCREW SOCIALISM

          Rev Rot.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Rev Rot."

            He is a reverend of rotten ideology. I don't think he's old enough to drive though.

    • ChrisNichols

      Tell me, what did Christianity do to European pagans. Actually, what did European pagans e.g. Vandals, Goths, Huns do to the Holy Roman Empire would be a better question. Who forced these people, as well as the Vikings to convert to Christianity. Who forced the Romans?
      History according to leftists
      1.) leftist dictator invades neighbors, sponsors terrorists, confiscates natural resources
      2.)U.S. comes in and stops murdering dictator,
      3.)U.S. murdering Imperialists exploiting resources., responsible for deaths of millions.

      So predictable. Then there is the fact that coward leftist lives under blanket of protection provided by U.S. Imperialists and allies, because they know they will clean up his mess and save his butt, because he or she is a coward.

      • Trevor

        Ok this constant calling people "leftist" or "commie" is getting tiresome. Just because someone doesn't buy into the extremist right wing Evangelical pseudo Christian movement doesn't mean they're lefties, commies or jihadis….Mkay!

        Btw, read some history, real history!

        • ChrisNichols

          Truth hurts doesn't it, huh trollboy. If you aren't one of those groups you listed, why are you apologizing for them? So you are a small government, libertarian who doesn't believe in a totalitarian centrally planned economy, right? You also have a knee jerk reaction to support Americans enemies no matter how extremist they are. What is tiresome is you spewing generalized perjoratives at me while condemning me for making generalizations. And freedom is not extreme. Like I alluded too, freedom is hard for a moron like you, it leaves o lot of guilt to enjoy so much prosperity and know that you had nothing to do with it. Which is why you have to call the people who built this society and want to protect it "extreme". I think I pretty much covered your act. M,kay.

        • ChrisNichols

          Please tell me of these historical tomes of which you speak. So I can avoid them, because you have no idea what you are talking about.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Please tell me of these historical tomes of which you speak. So I can avoid them, because you have no idea what you are talking about."

            He claims to read respectable historians but he fails to mention that he reads through the filters of guys like Rashid Khalidi and Norm Finklestein.

            Those 2 are very easy to avoid unless you're a complete dupe stuck in a really horrible university. And then there's Zinn of course. Probably Oliver Stone is quoted as a serious "real' historian as well in his circles.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Ok this constant calling people "leftist" or "commie" is getting tiresome. "

          That's why I'm so clear about the decoder. It means you're a liar or a dupe of the liars.

          I know we've been over this before so you can't pretend to be ignorant. Not that ignorant.

          "Just because someone doesn't buy into the extremist right wing Evangelical pseudo Christian movement doesn't mean they're lefties, commies or jihadis….Mkay! "

          All Christians are "pseudo Christians" to "Islamic Christians" like you.

          "Btw, read some history, real history!"

          Yes, model yourself after trevor by reading history out of context so that you can quote any word or phrase out of context to show how idiotic you are.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "The British and now the American Empires, the real "Evil Empires" have been the cause of millions of deaths the world over….And what's the common denominator in this?"

      Your lies.

      • defcon 4

        I remember reading that the only reason slavery ended in the Indian sub-continent was because the British took control of it.

    • Jerry

      That is most assuredly one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read. Who is it that causes division, strife and hate????? The Evil one as you say, is behind the scene's pulling the strings, its name is Lucifer. Christ Jesus never said to kill, maim and destroy. If you can find that in the teachings of Jesus the Christ, I will be happy to entertain your words….

    • Geno

      What a fool you are Trevor,you are either a lying muslim,or an American who hates his own country,
      which amounts to the same thing. There have been some dark times for all countries,but Islam has been
      evil from its' inception. There may be a few misguided Christians, and Jews today,but these people are
      in direct opposition of their faith. Muslims murder,rape,lie and steal just as they are instructed to by the unholy koran. Islam,is a cult of death,not a religion,they follow the cult of their unprophetic Muhammed
      They must,pray as he did,wash like him dress like him,etc.etc.etc. the text book definition of cultism.

    • Ghostwriter

      What "American Empire" Trevor? There IS no American Empire! Where are the colonies of this "empire,"Trevor? I'd love an answer to that.

  • Spider

    I would like to know how these Terr-orist front groups ( CAIR, ICNA,
    ISNA, MAS, MPAC) know what is in our FBI Homeland Security and national
    Security Training manuals in the first place? Has our government made
    these trainig manuals availabe to these Ji-had affiliated groups?
    and Why? How did they know something in the manuals was offensive?
    Who gave them access?

    • watsa46

      Wee have U been? Tks to greed , the rt and the lt have enable Muslims to infiltrate the internal structures of the country (Justice, Gvt etc…). Insiders have given access to vital info. This goes back to the discovery of oil in the ME.

  • jerome

    when was the last time someone mowed INNOCENT people down with an ak47 shouting "in the name of the FATHER THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST!1?

    • Trevor

      Dubya allegedly claimed God told him to invade Iraq and kill dem pesky terrists….Or in his [Dubya's] own words "Thy will be done"

      Of course in America right wing "Evangelicals" made out the war in Iraq was holy by referring to Iraq as "Babylon"

      • defcon 4

        And 300,000 Iraqi Christians have fled the persecution and murder that muslimes are inflicting on them there NOW 'tard. BTW, 'tard whatever happened to the large and prosperous Jewish population of Iraq? Why doesn't Baghdad have the Jewish majority it had before WW2?

        • Trevor

          Looks like replies that call Dubya a spastic are forbidden.

          So much for freedom of speech huh!

          • Mary Sue

            "spastic" is an extremely offensive word in Britain. Like, more offensive than the See You Next Tuesday word is to a woman in North America.

          • ChrisNichols

            Disagreement isn't censorship, troll. And we did kill a lot of terrorists there, terrorists who also killed Iraqis. Have anything to say about that? Probably not.

          • Trevor

            How stupid are you? The invasion opened up a gateway for the "terrists" to flood into Iraq, the same "terrists" who killed Iraqi civilians…

          • ChrisNichols

            So, is that how they got back at us, killing Iraqi civilians? Those terrorists were from other countries, mainly Iranian Quds who had already been trained and waiting for an opportunity to carry out acts on Western targets. The point of warfare is engage your enemy and destroy him before he can initiate any offense. How stupid are you.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "How stupid are you? The invasion opened up a gateway for the "terrists" to flood into Iraq, the same "terrists" who killed Iraqi civilians…"

            What were those terrorists doing before the war and where were they "locked up?" The USA let them out of jail where they were under the control of peaceful sovereigns. Is that what we're supposed to assume when you're leftist lies are trotted out?

            All of your lies depend on an audience that accepts the USA as the only source of evil (after the decline of the British) and the assumption that all other sovereigns are benign.

            And you chastise others about your supposed superior knowledge of history. You're a joke. You must be 16 and got drunk in the library one afternoon and now you're "read in to history" as opposed to the "crazy evil Christian conservatives."

            Lay off the caffeine when you're binge drinking alcohol and sleep it off before you crawl to your Internet device.

      • Rifleman

        In other words, never as far as you know.

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Rev Rot,

        9/11
        7/7/05 London transport bombing
        Toulouse France massacre
        Madrid train bombings
        Islamofascist savages publicly threatening 9/11 scale attacks on Eurabia

        Eurabia is doomed thanks to savages like you.

        • Trevor

          The list of countries the U.S has attacked is huge and in every instance it was the civilian populations who paid the biggest price.

          Although to be fair, i find it funny when savages call other savages savages.

          • Drakken

            Side with 3rd world muslim savages over us in the west makes you a collaborator. Good luck with that.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Trevwhor,

            socialism and its new found ally, islamofascism, have killed enslaved and killed MILLIONS.

            Now the occupier is becoming the colony of Pakistan.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "The list of countries the U.S has attacked is huge and in every instance it was the civilian populations who paid the biggest price. "

            The list of countries the U.S has counter-attacked is huge and in spite of increasing costs, because it was often the civilian populations who paid the biggest price Americans have invested heavily in precision weapons.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Although to be fair, i find it funny when savages call other savages savages."

            The Shia Sunni split must be non-stop fun for you.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "Of course in America right wing "Evangelicals" made out the war in Iraq was holy by referring to Iraq as "Babylon""

        FAQs for trolls:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon

        Next week we'll teach you all about Persia.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "Dubya allegedly claimed God told him to invade Iraq and kill dem pesky terrists….Or in his [Dubya's] own words "Thy will be done" "

        George W. Bush was vacationing on his ranch in Hawaii after flying there for the umpteenth time in early July of 2001 when he got a vision from God to attack Afghanistan and Iraq without any justification.

        It's a fact. Just ask Noam Chomsky.

  • UraFecalLiberal

    PC Marxists are ensconced in the service academies as well. Like termites, they infest the beliefs and minds of cadets, the future leaders of our military and the guarantors of our freedom and liberty.

  • Sky Soldier

    The problem with leadership at the top in the military (Pentagon) is that they become too engrossed in politics and planning their post-military retirement that they all must think they are "presidential" material and have abandoned their responsibility as military leaders who swore an oath to preserve and protect the Constitutional Republic.

  • Horace

    Luciferian Atheism is being reinforced by the Obama Administration as the new state religion. To the extent that a religion is opposed to the amoral tripe that the Democrat led US government is now pushing on many fronts it is extreme in their eyes. Whatever dilutes , adulterates and destroys the USA, Christians and Christianity , Judaism and Jews is the putrid goal of this Islamo Communist coalition taking over the country now. Lies, lies and more lies for the father of lies.

    • Trevor

      Golly gosh. The U.S is choc full of Luciferians both left and right.

      Or maybe you think all those secret societies are really just full of Christians doing Bible recitals and having a jolly fun time all round.

      • Drakken

        It would seem to the rest of us that you are quite unhappy living in a 1st world nation and would be much more confortable and happy in the 3rd world paradise of your choice.

        • Rifleman

          Nah, he would apparently rather the USA become a third world country.

          • Trevor

            I'd prefer the USA to become a shining example to the rest of humanity….They have the means…But when you live in a culture of greed is good and where money is your God then you kill the ability to be a shining example.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Eurabia is fast becoming a shining example of the folly of socialism, FAKE anti-war, appeasement and self hatred.

            I see a civil war brewing in Eurabia.

          • Drakken

            Oh yeah leftist utopia for all ! Get bent you commi f__ck!

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            How sad that the UK has become sharia law compliant West Pakistan.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "I'd prefer the USA to become a shining example to the rest of humanity….They have the means…But when you live in a culture of greed is good and where money is your God then you kill the ability to be a shining example."

            Trevor is driven by E N V Y and hate.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "I'd prefer the USA to become a shining example to the rest of humanity…"

            We were until communists like you infiltrated the government and hijacked our institutions. But you fight on the side of injustice and lies and that makes you a hypocrite.

            "They have the means…But when you live in a culture of greed is good and where money is your God then you kill the ability to be a shining example."

            Ahhh. Money is evil. I know…success is proof that the money was stolen. Of course. You're getting closer to Marx and Mohammed by the day.

        • Trevor

          You are such a big silly Billy.

          • SCREW SOCIALISM

            Rev Rot, You are such a Silly Sally.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "You are such a big silly Billy."

            You really are a drunk kid doing speedballs with alcohol and coffee.

          • defcon 4

            You're a mendacious Mehmet.

      • Horace

        Trevor, I know you know this intuitively already, but community organizer in chief, Obama is a loyal disciple and active practicioner of Saul Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals" which is dedicated by Alinsky to "Lucifer….." in the front of the book. Obama's gang of liars, propagandists and traitors and just plain worshipful fools – his administration and military wing are also Alinskyites, obviously.

    • Paul T. bennethum

      You are a misguided person who does not know anything about being an atheist. We have about as much to do with your Satan as we do your precious man-in-the-sky. Which means we have nothing to do with either silly myth. We believe in human rationality and basic logic, not the tenth-hand account of a bunch of barely out-of-the-stone-age goat herders who thought the world was flat and snakes and burning bushes could talk. We are not a theocracy and religion should stay in it's own place. They pay no taxes so they have no business trying to involve themselves into the business of government. You wouldn't know a communist if you saw one. You are confusing communism with socialism and in turn confusing socialism with social justice. You are still mad that our President isn't a white guy and that he doesn't have a common American name. As a result you will accuse him of just about anything no matter how absurd.

  • watsa46

    The evangelicals are to be blamed for they refuse to vote for Romney. They cannot complain!

    • Sky Soldier

      What a silly notion. It was not conservative evangelicals who did not vote for Romeny which caused his loss, Romney just gave up. The voter statistics show that Romney won more States and the Popular vote than Obama did. Where Obama won was in the highly density population areas, poor by the way, which are co-dependent on the govenment for their entitlement money. This was orchestrated by the liberal Democrates going back into the 1960's when blacks started moving into the so-called "inner cities" metropolitan areas to gain influence in politics and in Washington. Black churches started instructing their members (as it has been reported) how to get free money from the government so they took advantage of voting and taxpayers…. the Robin Hood theory of "rob the rich and give to the poor" mentality.

    • Trevor

      Why would Evangelicals want to vote for a heretical Mormon?

      • SCREW SOCIALISM

        Why would progressives support regressive islamofascism?

  • watsa46

    Islam and socialism is like water and oil. They do not mix.

  • Chasalz

    Unless this country turns back to its founding roots and a resurgence in putting God back into our lives, we are doomed .

    • wyskwy

      Do you know ANYTHING about the founding fathers and what they intended for this country? What does the First Amendment mean? No religion in government….get a grip…

      • antisharia

        the first amendment says nothing of the kind. It only says that the FEDERAL government shall not establish a religion, and it says that they shall do nothing to interfere with the free excercise thereof. Although Christophobes always forget that part when they're on their high horse about the first amendment.

    • Paul T. Bennethum

      Oh grow up.

  • Paul T. Bennethum

    Oh, instead of flying planes into buildings all the catholic clergy does is routinely rape and molest young boys and bishops and such move the pedophiles around and cover the crimes up. I suppose that's no big deal, huh? Their mostly westerners (and white) so it's really okay, isn't it? Never mind the fanatics who are overrunning the state government in North Carolina, trying to go against the U.S. Constitution and declare their particular brand of Christianity the state religion. But Christians are no threat, are they?

    • guest

      hellowwww,cant we tell the difference between a priest with some sexual problem from a whole creed and religion???? are you serious about equating catholicism with individual pedophiles ?? and if your viewpoint is shaped by ancient history of catholic jewish hatreds , then that is old stuff now. and you need to snap out of it and evaluate the situation now with a clear vision ,not distorted lenses

    • saturnV

      Paul. Stay with me here. Let's pretend for a moment that you are 8 years old. And still male, of course. Do you honestly think you would be as likely to be molested in downtown Boston as in Afghanistan? Seriously? If in either case you were molested, which is always a tragedy, where do you think justice is likely to be done to your attacker? Saudi Arabia/Iran/Iraq/Syria/Libya/Afghanistan/Pakistan? Or the good old USA.

      By the way, I am Jewish and headed to North Carolina tomorrow. Really. I'll keep my eye out for those threatening Christians. I wouldn't want them to behead me, burn my house or car, shout Halleluyah until their faces turn red from anger and then storm the streets looking for innocent people to throw rocks at.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Oh, instead of flying planes into buildings all the catholic clergy does is routinely rape and molest young boys and bishops and such move the pedophiles around and cover the crimes up. "

      Now imagine that Christians used the Bible to make excuses for it. Now imagine how hard you had to try to compare the worst thing you could find about "Christianity" to the most widely known thing about Jihad.

      So what's the body count? And is the Catholic Church trying to take over western governments and replace them with the Bible?

      Jihadis have "legitimate" religious support for their terror. We condemn all criminals and crimes. Why do you apologize for Islamic crimes and the ideology that drives most of them?

      "Their mostly westerners (and white) so it's really okay, isn't it?"

      Those who fall under the US jurisdiction have been prosecuted. The US government is covering up nothing. We can't say that about the liar in chief and his Sunni understanding of Islam.

      "Never mind the fanatics who are overrunning the state government in North Carolina, trying to go against the U.S. Constitution and declare their particular brand of Christianity the state religion."

      Citations please. OK, I stumbled on to another crackpot.

      "But Christians are no threat, are they?"

      Correct.

    • Defcon 4

      Um buggering little boys (with or without their consent) is a time honored LEGAL tradition in Afghanistan and Iran. Then again you probably already knew that and enjoyed it…

    • Jerry

      Our President and Congress are going against the Constitution sir. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. State rights trump Federal Law, perhaps you forgot that. There is no tolerance for molesting children, and it is not just the Catholics that do it. A real Christian is one who shares the love of God with people, pointing the way to a relationship with Jesus the Christ. Unfortunately, this nation has left its first love. Only mayhem follows, because "every intent of man kinds heart is bent on evil." There is but One God. The Lord He is God. Not mankind…

  • antisharia

    This is what happens when you have a government run by a bunch of atheists. To them all religions are the same, evil, creepy and violent. To them there is no moral difference between a Catholic saying the rosary, and the Hamas terrorist, the Mormon missionary trying to make converts, and Hezbollah, or Franklin Graham and Ayman Al-Zawahiri. It's the sick moral relativism that pervades western thought and will undoudetdly be the downfall of western civilization.

    • guest

      you are wrong in some of what you say, the problem is not atheism . the problem is pro islamism.that pervades the current rulers of the US. anyone ,including atheists can tell the difference between a peaceful beleif system and a violent hateful one. only islamic sympathizers are blind to that reality and that is what is happening with the obama goons.

      • Ceohtwo

        Do not mistake what I write as any defense of Islam; I strongly agree with the hideous nature of it that you point to. I would highlight the quest for truth.
        It is possible you have a different definition of atheism, but I disagree with the notion that atheists are able to identify peaceful and violent belief systems. Atheism is one of the pillars of the communism, hardly a benign belief system. Take the God of the bible out of the equation and look out! What I mean by that is that the bible teaches we are not "basically good". We are sinners in need of forgiveness. Our consciences seem good to us, but cannot be trusted. Look for instance at the political divide in our nation. There are policies and programs being operated that are clearly inimical to all that is dear to patriotic Americans. Government actions we regard as cultural and economic suicide seem just fine to the other side, especially to what some call the "ruling class" and their drones.
        The bible says those outside of faith in Christ do not have spiritual discernment. One who has placed his faith in Christ has the indwelling of God's Holy Spirit to show him right and wrong and show him that what the bible teaches is truth and how to test other teaching. This is not some achievement by men, but supernatural.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "It is possible you have a different definition of atheism, but I disagree with the notion that atheists are able to identify peaceful and violent belief systems."

          Some atheists actually adopt traditional Judeo Christian values without recognizing the source as believers do. They recognize the innate goodness in these values. They are just highly skeptical about evidence. I'm saying some.

          "The bible says those outside of faith in Christ do not have spiritual discernment. "

          But that doesn't mean people don't recognize true justice on earth. I'm not saying you're wrong about any particular thing except how you apply and explain it to nonbelievers. It's a judgment call and I'm just offering my views in this case.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "you are wrong in some of what you say, the problem is not atheism . the problem is pro islamism.that pervades the current rulers of the US. "

        I see your point but many atheists tend to make assumptions about moral equivalence. But you're right that not all atheists fall in to that leftist trap.

        • Defcon 4

          I've had countless atheists defend islamofascism by telling me "Christianity is just as bad." But when I suggest they move to the nearest islamofascist pigsty to escape the scary Christians they suddenly become uninterested in continuing the discussion.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "I've had countless atheists defend islamofascism by telling me "Christianity is just as bad." But when I suggest they move to the nearest islamofascist pigsty to escape the scary Christians they suddenly become uninterested in continuing the discussion."

            I don't disagree with the generalization but when talking to individuals it's useful to remember it's not an iron law of atheism to conflate all religions. It sure seems that way a lot of the time though.

            Trust me, I have the same experiences. But there are some atheist who can see things for what they are here but simply don't accept the evidence of the Bible as good enough.

            There is a guy named Pat something that makes videos attacking religion in general and after a while he started to draw radical distinctions between Christians that he mocks and Muslims that follow Islam, that he loathes. He even sticks up for Israel on purely moral grounds from an atheistic Western point of view.

            I don't know if he subscribes to any leftist views. I just laughed when I heard some of his "wake up about Islam" rants. Half the time his narratives include their absurd relentless attacks on Israel and Jews in general.

  • guest

    seems obama is here to dismantle the west, not just america. this man is a danger to sanity and to the western worlds way of life. equating Catholicism and other benign ways to islamist fascism is sheer folly and intentional smearing and brainwashing of the american new generations. the guy and his operators are really out to re do america into something very despicably un american, weak twisted and confused
    one wonders what agenda he is serving and whose?

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "seems obama is here to dismantle the west, not just america. "

      Without question he hates Britain more than he hates the USA. The USA is simply more threatening to his agenda.

  • Byron Mullet

    Religious correctness is an extension of political correctness. After 9/11 everyone has to be treated the same, no profiling or common sense allowed.

  • Tansiden

    Perhaps there was a reason Joseph Story explained in his Commentaries on the United States Constitution that "the purpose of the establishment clause is not to prostrate Christianity…" Summarized, Christianity is not to be pulled down to the level of other world religions. However, no one denomination within Christianity is to be given political favor over another denomination within Christianity. Feel free to look it up to get the exact wording.

    THAT is why we're not encouraged (or required) to read the Constitution OR Joseph Story's Commentaries.

  • LindaRivera

    We are called Islamophobes because we believe that:
    ALL people must have human rights, and
    ALL people must have equality before the law.
    These beliefs makes us extremists because they are the OPPOSITE of what Islam teaches!

    We believe in the Shema:
    Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel, the L-rd is our G-d, the L-rd is One.
    You shall love the L-rd your G-d with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your might.
    Jesus said this was the greatest commandment. We are considered extremists because we LOVE God!

    We are regarded as a hate group because we believe that our cherished 3,000 should be honored at Ground Zero, NOT Islam – whose followers cruelly murdered our people.

  • LindaRivera

    In reply to P. Bennethum:

    By massively colonizing our countries with hostile Muslim infidel-haters, ruling elites have deliberately and CRIMINALLY removed all protection and safety from Europeans. The soldiers of Allah stalk our lands looking for prey, waging unopposed rape war across Europe and Britain. Non-Muslim females are regarded as "war booty" by cruel conquering Muslims.

    BARENAKEDISLAM: Traumatized 16-year-old British girl was brutally raped by 90 different Muslim men in one weekend

    Even worse, these savage attacks happened after authorities had said the
    girl was not at risk. Once shielded by the media, these gangs of Muslim
    (called ‘Asians’ in the UK) groomers (pimps) who abduct, rape, and
    prostitute young white girls are the focus of a shocking new report into modern-day sex slavery in the UK by the Centre for Social Justice. http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/03/11/traumati

    Muslim Gangs Drug & Rape Children All Over The UK – Britain Finally Starts To Wake Up http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed

    Why are these Muslim FILTH, INHUMAN, demonic gang-rapists still walking this earth? Why have they not been put to death already?
    Protect Innocents! DEATH SENTENCE for ALL RAPISTS in ALL COUNTRIES!

    THERE is NO ONE to HELP the CHILDREN! We desperately need Paul Weston’s party in Britain, Liberty GB! http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/

    British Schoolgirl’s Testimony – Muslims Threaten Children With Violence & Rape Outside School Daily http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed

    These are the 'people' who have been brought into our countries:

    Muslims call murder and human sacrifice of non-Muslims, worship:
    “Killing Jews is worship that draws us close to Allah”
    Al-Aqsa TV (Hamas), Nov. 18, 2012 http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=427

    MUSLIMS IN BERLIN GERMANY School Rioting & Welfare http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykJjEtmAOAk

    Open Your Eyes SWEDEN, the rest of the WESTERN WORLD and America.flv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ2o547ejPQ

  • Christian DH

    Obama has crossed the separation of church and state clause. His decision to label Christians as a terrorist ideology is unlawful. IF the government has evidence of a sect or cult breaking the law, he should focus on that group alone.
    Fort those that don't know, an evangelical Christian is someone that processes their faith and gives an open invitation to accepting Christ. There are no consequences if someone doesn't take the offer. The Christian doing the evangelism smiles and gives them a heartfelt smile as they wish them a good day.
    The president overslept the constitution and should now be called to account for his policy within the DoD. Furthermore, it would be very appropriate to examine all federal agencies, to ensure he has not placed similar policies in place.
    On a final note, I am a Christian. I want you to know that Christ has His hands open wide for all Muslims, atheists, Jews, Hindus and everyone else. I am an evangelical Christian, and am proud to be called one.

  • Western Spirit

    The country was founded on and sustained by the Christian values that are promoted by the evangelical and Catholic churches.

    Freedom is impossible without these Judeo-Christian moral values being inculcated into the public as espoused by one of the country’s founders, John Adams. He knew that freedom is dependent on a moral people controlling themselves, otherwise the state has to control them by taking away their freedom.

    The Bible tells us that God has put immortality into the hearts of man so religion is endemic to the race. Even if you don’t believe in the efficacy of the Bible this reality is easily seen. We will always require a religion of some kind and teaching moral values so that people will control themselves is something the Christian faith does well. Therefore to equate the Christian faith with Islam is unconscionable.

    Because that’s totally ignoring the fruit these religions produce. True, immorality of all kinds is not tolerated by the Christian faith, nor should it be because it’s by limiting immoral behavior that morality ensues. So the Christian faith produces freedom by promoting behavior that makes freedom work while Islam cuts freedom’s head off and bombs it off the map by forcing people to comply with its dictates or die. Dictates that have nothing to do with the Ten Commandments that guide Christians, or should.

    The demonizing of the Christian faith is happening because the Supreme Court forbade what is constitutionally protected. Unconstitutionally the Supreme Court has prohibited the free practice of religion. This was done by totally ignoring the Second clause of the First Amendment and by misrepresenting the first clause of the same. A clause that was supposed to prohibit the establishment of a state religion not prohibit the free practice of religion that the second clause guarantees. The way the chief justices interpreted these clauses the Constitution contradicts itself.

    Consequently the Left’s faith has been unopposed as it is being taught in our institutions because their religion is not called a religion even though that’s what it is. While the Christian faith has been silenced in these institutions and rendered impotent to influence the public even as the Left’s doctrines have had no such restrictions so have no opposition.

    Now, the Left’s unopposed views have gained the upper hand and these Christian views that have sustained freedom are not only silenced but are being misrepresented as sinister, as well. Without a doubt the country is headed for destruction with its freedom no more than a distant memory as the country follows the “wisdom” of the Left. “Wisdom” that is now being carefully taught, unopposed, in our schools. Because unfortunately for us the Left’s “wisdom” is nothing more than rank foolishness that will lead us into slavery of some kind or other.

    Yet the Bible states that the truths therein are spiritually discerned and are seen as foolishness by the ungodly. So this definition of foolishness, by the foolish, is what we are up against as we fight the evil that is out to enslave us. But once again we will be able to discern the truth by its fruits.

  • Guest

    Evangelical Christians are at the top of the list I saw.

    Those darn Christians. If only thye had stopped being mean during the crusades and also stopped fighting the Moors, we would have a much more wonderful and moral gay free and non-woman controlled society. Okay, sarcasm off now.

  • Dave Hamilton

    Obama and his crew are, wittingly or not, destroying America because the extreme liberals among them have taken root and average Americans are easily brainwashed by their poison. We are on course for a total transformation if Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden win the oval office in 2016. The country needs politicians at every level who will stop serving themselves and stand up for the U.S. just as many have fought and died to do.

    WAKE UP, America, before the nightmare becomes reality!

    Dave Hamilton

  • Jacob

    This doesn’t surprise me. Government religion is like the Islamic religion, it must destroy all competitors!