Israel and Sickening Double Standards

Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East – and continually one can see that Israel’s behavior is a far cry away from that of her neighbors and enemies. It is especially relevant that the current Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyhau, is regarded as a right-wing conservative. Contrast that with other leaders in the Middle East.

Imagine in an Arab nation if 160 ambassadors and heads of missions abroad would dare complain about the administration’s agenda and leak it to the media. Would their heads be chopped off or their entire families disappear? In Israel, they complain, leak it to the media, and (unfortunately) are able to remain in their positions.

Yaakov Amidror, the head of Israel’s National Security Council, spoke this week at the annual gathering for Israeli diplomats and amidst dissent rightfully told the group they are “clerks” whose job is to represent the current government. As he explained forcefully – the job of ambassadors is to defend and explain policy – not to try and set policy. As he said, “If this doesn’t suit you, quit or run for political office.” Suffice it to say that despite the fact that this is awful for Israel public relations, none of these foreign diplomats will be dragged through the streets as traitors to Israel. It is, however, very damaging to brand Israel for stories like this to appear in papers like The Independent in the UK.

Imagine in another country in the world, that a political candidate representing the largest political party in the country was detained by police for praying at the holiest site for his religion. Yes, you read it correctly – and the police even recommended after his detention that he be prosecuted for the crime of bowing at this site. The man was released from police custody – he was forbidden to pray due to fears that his praying would anger people of another religion.

And yes, in the country of Israel, which is oft-accused of “oppressing” the Muslims, Moshe Feiglin was detained for this behavior. In Arab nations, Jews aren’t even permitted – and in the State of Israel, Jews (even politically connected ones) cannot pray for fear of offending the Muslims. That story isn’t told properly to the media.

Of course, we are all still waiting for the flotilla to Syria. There’s still no “humanitarian flotilla” to Syria where, in less than two years, thousands more have been killed than have been killed during the Israeli-Palestinian conflict over the past 20 years. No aid reaches the people in Syria who are being butchered by their government – as Israel is wrongfully blamed for the situation on the ground in Gaza and elsewhere. And no one knows the names of the many victims of that war – perhaps because it doesn’t fit the media’s biased storyline of the Middle East.

Maybe it would all be funny if it wasn’t so sad. There is simply a sickening double standard when it comes to Israel.

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  • michael

    Thanks Ronn – this is an excellent article

  • objectivefactsmatter

    "Imagine in another country in the world, that a political candidate representing the largest political party in the country was detained by police for praying at the holiest site for his religion. Yes, you read it correctly – and the police even recommended after his detention that he be prosecuted for the crime of bowing at this site. The man was released from police custody – he was forbidden to pray due to fears that his praying would anger people of another religion."

    When that happened and was attributed as setting of the so-called al Aqsa intifada, I almost fell out of my chair and that was the beginning of my personal choices that led to my intense study of what in the heck was going on there. Not that I was totally ignorant, but I had been fooled a bit by the fake Oslo Accords.

    Anyway, it still shocks me to think about it today that those freaks feel no shame. By "those freaks" I mean anyone who considers that event anything short of ridiculous blatant proof as to the corrupt position of Fake-estine. That also leads to strong proof about Islamic imperialism.

    There really is no excuse for denial unless you just arrived from another planet and are still catching up on events here on this planet.

  • objectivefactsmatter

    "And yes, in the country of Israel, which is oft-accused of “oppressing” the Muslims, Moshe Feiglin was detained for this behavior. In Arab nations, Jews aren’t even permitted – and in the State of Israel, Jews (even politically connected ones) cannot pray for fear of offending the Muslims. That story isn’t told properly to the media."

    I didn't even hear about this. I thought you meant Sharon. Will we ever learn?

    • stern

      It's a fact. Jews are mostly not allowed onto the Temple Mount (which is the actually holiest site in Judaism, an honour usually given to the Western Wall), which is controlled by the Islamic Waqf – and if they are allowed, they are strictly forbidden from praying. They are accompanied by policemen who watch to see if their lips move (Jews pray in this way). Recently, a man was arrested for saying a blessing over a glass of water he was about to drink on the Temple Mount. So the irony is that in Jerusalem between 1948 and 1967, only Muslims had freedom of religion; Jews and Xtians were not allowed access to their holy sites. Under Israeli rule, every religion has freedom to pray anywhere – except Jews!!!

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "It's a fact. Jews are mostly not allowed onto the Temple Mount (which is the actually holiest site in Judaism, an honour usually given to the Western Wall), which is controlled by the Islamic Waqf – and if they are allowed, they are strictly forbidden from praying. They are accompanied by policemen who watch to see if their lips move (Jews pray in this way). Recently, a man was arrested for saying a blessing over a glass of water he was about to drink on the Temple Mount. "

        I knew all of this, but not about the arrests. I still think the reaction to Sharon should have convinced them that they can't lower themselves enough to secure their safety. They need to ensure their sovereignty through realistic policies and get rid of this apartheid system that favors Muslims in Israel.

    • Demetrius M

      If you read http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/ you will see this occurs about once a week or so. Some are arrested for praying/bowing/moving their lips at the Mount are political types looking for attention or trying to prove a point(don't blame them really), but many are just normal, everyday Jews attending their holiest of places.
      Meanwhile they will have Pals throwing rocks at them the whole time while Israeli police stand by and do nothing. Pathetic.

  • Omar

    Why doesn't the international community protest against the Islamist regime in Sudan. Unlike Israel, the regime in Sudan is a racist, sexist, Islamist dictatorship that behaves worse than South Africa's former apartheid regime. Yet, the left and its allies don't protest against the regime in Sudan because they support the Sudanese dictatorship. Israel's adversaries view the regime in Sudan as "progressive" and a defender of so-called "social justice". As for Syria, there is no flotilla there because the Israel-haters support the Assad family dictatorship in Syria. The left and its allies support the Assad regime for the same reasons as the Islamist regime in Sudan- the left views the Assad regime in Syria as "progressive" and another defender of so-called "social justice". Recall that during the Cold War, Syria was a Soviet puppet client state as the KGB intervened at least twice in Syria (both during coups in 1963 and 1966) Even today, Syria is still a Moscow client state. Unlike Mubarak in Egypt (who was a Western ally that generally respected NATO's foreign policy), the Assad family dictatorship in Syria wants Communist totalitarianism. We need to confront the double standard that is threatening the world today.

    • Jozy

      Actually, my observation is that the Left are siding with the 'freedom fighting rebels', romanticizing them as a struggle against 'imperialism'. They view the rebels the same way they view Palestinian arabs.

      • Omar

        While some leftists do support the Syrian rebels, other leftists support the Assad family regime because it is a Russian client state. Remember that during the Cold War, Syria was a Soviet puppet state. Today, it is still being controlled by Moscow. Contrast the left's reaction with the Syrian civil war with the uprising in Egypt. In Egypt's case, every leftist supported the conflict against Mubarak, while in Syria, the left is somewhat divided on who to support. Once again, support for the Assad regime is based on anti-Western and anti-democracy hatred. That's the reality.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "Contrast the left's reaction with the Syrian civil war with the uprising in Egypt. In Egypt's case, every leftist supported the conflict against Mubarak, while in Syria, the left is somewhat divided on who to support."

          Exact.y why the 0'Bama can't go in full force for the Sunnis jihadis here. He'd upset Valerie, Vladimir and some of their leftist supporters of "freedom through tyranny."

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Israel's adversaries view the regime in Sudan as "progressive" and a defender of so-called "social justice"."

      Islam supports or even tolerates social justice? That's another way to verify that we live in the age of Doublespeak. What kind of social justice would this be? You can keep it out of our land. And stop asking us for jizya in the name of social justice you GD liars.

      • Omar

        What does GD stand for? Anyway, we all know that the left uses the term "social justice" in order to export their propaganda. The left uses it all the time in order to silence its opponents. In the case of Islamism, since the Islamist regimes are allied with the left, the left views its allies as "defenders of social justice", since they share a common enemy, which is Western-style democracy.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "What does GD stand for?"

          Really? The second word is "damn."

          "Anyway, we all know that the left uses the term "social justice" in order to export their propaganda. The left uses it all the time in order to silence its opponents."

          It's a catchall and usually the user isn't even quite sure what it's really supposed to mean. It's communist in origin as used today but many people think it comes from the Bible. That's how flexible that little phrase is.

          Think about it, justice is justice…for society. It's already clearly implied when talking about justice. What then is social justice that is not covered by "justice?" It just gives them a new way to deceive people by calling something unjust that nobody ever thought about before. Like, "Every man should be able to afford the home of his dreams, otherwise our society is unjust." Really? Even the lazy people like you?

          "In the case of Islamism, since the Islamist regimes are allied with the left, the left views its allies as "defenders of social justice", since they share a common enemy, which is Western-style democracy."

          Social justice claims are great (for Islamic supremacists among others) for launching in to fabricated victim-hood narratives about neocolonialism and other nonsense.

  • http://twitter.com/ygalg @ygalg

    Moshe Feiglin he is not far crazy from muslims, he should be committed with them in mental institution.

    despite that, succumbing to muslims anti jewish islamic based sentiments, is treasonous and "Sickening Double Standards" practiced by israeli government etc. israel placed itself in this respect a dhimmi state making the only democracy in the region to be crippling with a chance to bring a tragic outcome on itself.

    • Sam

      "ISRAEL" when and how was this state formed in this beautiful earth? Any idea

      "Double Standards" need to study the history to really know who are really expertise in practicing it

  • Child of GOD

    It is written, "By their fruit (deeds) ye shall know them (those who are, and are not of the LORD our GOD." The WORD of GOD also warns us, " …GOD is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

  • wag

    The Muslim religion is a fascist doctrine. Focusing on supremacy rather than enlightenment, on submission and conquest rather than progress for humanity through morality, the closer one follows the lower one goes on the spiritual ladder. The more religious, the more degraded, rather than uplifted. You may google tropical paradise jihad to get more of my views on this parody of philosophy.

  • Marty

    It is by continuing to exist (and, for the most part, flourish) that Jews offend muslims. Nothing is gained by concessions or apologies to muslims. There is no danger that the free medical treatment an average of 15,000 palestinians receive in Israeli clinics and hospitals will ever be recognized in the arab media or, for that matter, in the western media. Thousands of palestinians receive medical treatment because they are fgrossly fat. gaza is the eighth most obese place on the planet (no doubt the result of a nefarious plot by Mossad). All of this is because the American taxpayer sends hundreds of millions of dollars annually to enable palestinians to dine well while they sit around and hate Israel and the United States. Pudgy palestinians are the most ungrateful people anywhere: they happily accept good food and great medical and dental care from the countries they want destroyed. But, this is islam.

  • Rebecca

    The world hates the Jews – same old same old. Nothing changes. Thank you Ronn Torossian for this brilliant article.

  • Mike Yohe

    Mixing religion and government will result in double standards.
    So why not admit what is the real cause of the problems?

    • JoJoJams

      George Bush?

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "Mixing religion and government will result in double standards.
      So why not admit what is the real cause of the problems?"

      Who denies that?

  • Anthony

    I fear that political correctness with respect to Europe and the USA will be the undoing of Israel. Why must this country continue to fear how these two would feel on every step they take in their own land. It might be said it is for strategic reasons but how far can they go with this? I am confused.

    • Drakken

      The muslims of Europe are wearing their welcome out, the Europeans are seething beneath the surface and sooner rather than later it is going to come to the surface and be an extremely bloody affair. Think Balkans on steroids with germanic precision and planning.

      • EarlyBird

        "Think Balkans on steroids with germanic precision and planning." The horrid irony of this being wished by a Jew!

    • EarlyBird

      "Why must this country continue to fear how (the US) would feel on every step they take in their own land."

      Because, Anthony, we own you. Israel receives over $3 billion dollars a year in US military aid. The US is your only ally. Israel was not torn apart by wolves long ago because of America's continuing generosity. That's why.

      The US has been supporting and sticking its neck out for Israel for 65 years because its been the right thing to do, not because its been the easy thing to do. How much easier would our relationships in the ME be if we weren't seen as being sewn at the hip with Israel? A lot.

      And you're welcome.

      • Zionista

        yeah – it's Israel's fault that 60,000 have been murdered in syria – must be those 'settlements'

        • EarlyBird

          What? Was that a response to me? How is it relevant?

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "Because, Anthony, we own you. Israel receives over $3 billion dollars a year in US military aid. The US is your only ally. Israel was not torn apart by wolves long ago because of America's continuing generosity. That's why."

        Did it ever occur to you that we give even more aid to her enemies? I didn't think so.

        "The US has been supporting and sticking its neck out for Israel for 65 years because its been the right thing to do, not because its been the easy thing to do."

        It's the right thing to do because we've indirectly caused some of the problems.

        "How much easier would our relationships in the ME be if we weren't seen as being sewn at the hip with Israel?"

        We can't be overly concerned about how liars see us. That's no way to live or lead. Don't be so idi-otic.

        "And you're welcome."

        Because you're so helpful.

        • EarlyBird

          No. The Arab world lost the Caliphate because of their own decadence AND because Europe moved in prior to and after WWI. Period. The Arab world barely knew the US existed until we stood up for Israel post-WWII.

          Yes, the Muslims are violent babies, and it has been the morally correct thing to befriend and protect Israel. But you don't get to tell me the US hasn't paid a huge price for its (rightful) alliance with Israel. It is incredible what we've done for Israel over the years, and the arrogance of the Israel First lobby, and right-wing Israeli governments is jaw dropping.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "No. The Arab world lost the Caliphate because of their own decadence AND because Europe moved in prior to and after WWI. Period."

            You're such a tool. First, you didn't actually contradict what I said (which you naturally don't quote). Second, you didn't add value or clarity to the conversation. The reason cited in Arabic most often is the loss of the caliph and the need to restore it. That happened in the aftermath of WWI. Want to deny that? It would be much easier to have serious conversations if you'd quote what you're replying to.

            Furthermore, without a hot war, no Western power would have threatened the caliph as a religious leader (like the pope). They lost the caliph because they went to war and lost.

            Period. Your denial means nothing unless you can make a case. But you're only interesting in the appearance of one-upmanship.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Yes, the Muslims are violent babies, and it has been the morally correct thing to befriend and protect Israel."

            Noted.

            "But you don't get to tell me the US hasn't paid a huge price for its (rightful) alliance with Israel."

            Where did I ever say anything like that?

            "It is incredible what we've done for Israel over the years…"

            It's an incredible, unprecedented chain of events.

            "…and the arrogance of the Israel First lobby, and right-wing Israeli governments is jaw dropping."

            Only to dupes. It makes you easy to identify. You're always drooling when you rant.

        • EarlyBird

          Most of the money we give to Israel's enemies is to pay off would-be Israel destroyers like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, formerly Iraq, and the like. That's even FURTHER subsidization of Israeli security. But you knew that.

          Egypt is the perfect example of these payoffs on behalf of Israeli security. The second biggest benefactor of US aid since Camp David, they've been getting US tax payer money as long as they've promised to keep a lid on the festering anti-Jew madmen inside the country who would destroy Israel.

          Yes, you're welcome.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            Most of the money we give to Israel's enemies is to pay off would-be Israel destroyers like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, formerly Iraq, and the like."

            Right, but they're enemies of non-Muslims as well as enemies of each other. We're trying to bring peace to the world by "moderating" them through bribes and investment in trade.

            "That's even FURTHER subsidization of Israeli security. But you knew that. "

            World security, psychopath.

            "Egypt is the perfect example of these payoffs on behalf of Israeli security."

            That's Carter's doing.

            "The second biggest benefactor of US aid since Camp David, they've been getting US tax payer money as long as they've promised to keep a lid on the festering anti-Jew madmen inside the country who would destroy Israel."

            And who arranged for that? Reagan went around pressuring Israel to cave in to Egypt? Or was it Bush? We bribed both sides, dupe. When I say, "we" I mean the USA collectively while being led by Carter, the first president to be wholly purchased by the Saudis.

            "Yes, you're welcome."

            You've put icing on the cake illustrating just how delusional leftist dupes are, expecting to be thanked for their delusional thinking.

      • welldoneson

        in fact, early, the early years of Israel's existence saw France and Britain protecting Israel. The US gradually took over that noble position due to the stupidity and ignorance of the USSR… by not allowing Jews to emigrate to Israel, the USSR in effect gave the US a very valuable window into Russian affairs. Intel from Jews who did manage to leave proved invaluable. So, ironically, the idiot left's insistence on supporting the USSR helped the US become a protector and sponsor of Israel. This serves to remind us how the left are so unfailingly on the wrong side of history.

        • EarlyBird

          Very good point and analysis. We were sort of the second line of Israel supporters, behind as you mention, France and England, until about the late '60s when our alliance really became strong vis a vis the Cold War. Nonetheless, we've been a pretty stalwart ally of Israel since Day 1, and pretty much its only ally since about the '70s.

          And Anthony has the nerve to ask why Israel should care what the US thinks of its actions? Huh?

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "And Anthony has the nerve to ask why Israel should care what the US thinks of its actions? Huh?"

            Because according to your reading of history, you now own Israel and all its inhabitants.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "We were sort of the second line of Israel supporters, behind as you mention, France and England, until about the late '60s…"

            Really now? Huh. Who knew?

            "…when our alliance really became strong vis a vis the Cold War."

            And how do you explain that? Why and how did Israel become part of the cold war to the extent that you imply?

            When did the Jews take over the USA, and why did they wait so long before making their moves? How did those Jews control France and Britain in the mean time? Please explain these events so that we can have the same understanding of history that you display.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Nonetheless, we've been a pretty stalwart ally of Israel since Day 1"

            Wrong again.

            FDR's promise to Saudis on Israel
            George Marshall's open contempt for Truman forcing UN support, and the culture of the state department since then.

            Those are just 2 highlights to show you again that you don't know what you're talking about.

            You need to study the world wars in more detail. Then you need to study middle eastern history more closely following the major events and then maybe if you can wrap your mind around the fact that leftist liars have tainted every venue where world opinion is formed, you'll see that you are way too confident in your superficial understanding of the history and the leftist dogmas you hang on to.

            On the other hand, you acknowledge some of the facts but until you realize the extent that your mind is corrupted by lies, you won't be able to effectively contribute to a conversation about those facts. You might potentially be able to self-purge these false dogmas if you humble yourself to the obvious statement I made here and either seriously take up a study of the facts of history, or at least re-calibrate your opinions after acknowledging that there is a lot of critical history that you don't know.

            It's curious that you spend time attacking conservative Americans, and I wonder how much time you spend attacking those causing the root problems? I would guess zero.

  • Jozy

    The liberal leftist's mind on Syria:
    "So 60.000 arabs died fighting in Syria. Big deal. Arabs kill arabs. Known fact."
    The liberal leftist's mind on Gaza:
    "Oh my gaawd those jewz shoot at palestinis they got big weapns but palstinis r poor defensles ppl w/o weapnz oh my gaawd end apartheid ocupation of palestin"

    Where are all the Leftists condeming the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, or the regime of north Sudan? The double standard is excruciatingly anti-semitic.

    • Drakken

      The left openly sides with and collaborates with the muslims, therefore the left is our common enemy that sooner rather than later will come to open warfare.

    • EarlyBird

      I disagree that the double standard you refer to is anti-Semitic, per se. It's anti-Western and anti-Establishment. The left fell in the love with any underdog (real or perceived) back in the '60s, and anybody who could claim "oppression" by a stronger force won their hearts. It explains Chomsky's (and early Horowitz's) entire world-view, and the left's enthrallment with the most brutal and corrupt "people's power" movements of the late '60s and early '70s. They don't think in terms of "right and wrong," but merely "weak and strong" and go with the weak, no matter how depraved it might be (and blame the depravity on the "oppression" by the strong).

      • Jozy

        Credit where credit's due, I believe you are right when you say that the left have an obsessive compulsion to side with the 'underdog' in any conflict.
        That still leaves them without excuse, though. The Jews have been the underdogs of the world for almost 2000 years, suffering relentless persecution of an unfathomably larger scale of magnitude compared to the self-inflicted ills of the Palestinian Arabs. Instead of celebrating the Jewish statehood and the Jewish emergence from victimhood, they protest the very same Jews.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "They don't think in terms of "right and wrong," but merely "weak and strong" and go with the weak, no matter how depraved it might be (and blame the depravity on the "oppression" by the strong)."

        Now you're singing from the song sheet of the apologist and even that isn't much of a defense. You're right that it's not pure Antisemitism and in some cases its just pure delusion about history and as you say, delusion about right and wrong.

        • EarlyBird

          Apologist?! What are you talking about? My entire post was a condemnation of the moral stupidity of the left.

          Your handle is "Objective Facts Matter"? Talk about chutzpah! You can't even engage in the most basic logic.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Apologist?! What are you talking about?"

            You're trying to minimize what they do.

            "My entire post was a condemnation of the moral stupidity of the left. "

            The only "harsh" thing you said was, "the left's enthrallment with the most brutal and corrupt "people's power" movements…" Compared to your other language, you are not actually condemning them. You're explaining their flaws. That's what apologists do on the way to whitewashing them. What I said was that you were "singing from the song sheet of the apologist" which is not the same as calling you one. You're trying to excuse them rather than focusing on their delusional thinking and lack of objectivity. You're deflating other harsh criticism and then you can claim that without context you're really attacking them? Not in the context of this conversation.

            "You can't even engage in the most basic logic."

            I'm sorry for talking over your head. Silly for me to expect you to understand a nuanced statement. The fact is that I didn't.

  • EarlyBird

    It is true that Israel is constantly being held to a double standard, even by its detractors. As frustrating as it is, however, Israel should take pride that the world expects more from Israel than its enemies. If only the Arabs and Iranians were a quarter as civilized as Israel, there might be peace in the region.

    • Jozy

      Actually, I know a handful of Iranian students that study at the Delft University of Technology, here in the Netherlands. All the ones I've met are all very well mannered, intelligent, hard working and speak decent English. I also know a few Iranian permament immigrants. All the same goes for them as well, and they almost all hate the ayatollah regime.
      I know Iranians are sensible and intelligent, and before 1979 they were pro-western and allies of Israel. They still have it in them, as we saw in the election protests (where unfortunately many were slaughtered by the government). I hope Iranians will sooner rather than later succeed in toppling their inhuman government.

      • EarlyBird

        Yes, in fairness, I mean to call out the current Iranian government and its hard-line supporters. There are many, many expatriate Iranians living in my neighborhood in Los Angeles, and they despise the Iranian regime.

    • SoCalMike

      Early Brid,
      Why?
      At what price?
      How many Israeli lives should be sacrificed to your vision?
      Jew haters can never get enough Jewish blood.

      • EarlyBird

        Mike, what part of my words which you responded to make me a "Jew hater"? It was a pretty nice compliment to Israel, actually:

        "It is true that Israel is constantly being held to a double standard, even by its detractors. As frustrating as it is, however, Israel should take pride that the world expects more from Israel than its enemies. If only the Arabs and Iranians were a quarter as civilized as Israel, there might be peace in the region."

  • Ghostwriter

    Don't forget,EarlyBird,that many in the Muslim world hate America and want to kill us. The Israelis don't hate us and don't want to kill us. That's why I side with the Israelis. They don't scream for my death simply because I'm American.

    • EarlyBird

      Swedes don't scream for my death, either. But they are not beset by psychopathic Islamic hordes – at least to the extent that Israel is.

      And the biggest reason Muslims scream for my death is because my country befriends Israel. They are enemies to be proud of. To allow Israel to be swallowed whole by the hate-filled hordes would be to let evil flourish.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        "And the biggest reason Muslims scream for my death is because my country befriends Israel. "

        Wrong. That's pretext. It's because they lost the caliph after WWI, and we stand in the way of the next caliph and world conquest. Study more history and more details. Make sure you're not studying liars and lies. It's also emotionally hurtful to their religious feelings that we'd actually help Jews and partner with them in establishing world peace. They don't want Western peace. They want "Islamic peace."

        • EarlyBird

          "That's pretext. It's because they lost the caliph after WWI, and we stand in the way of the next caliph and world conquest."

          Who is "we" in this sentence? You write as if you're an American, not an Israel Firster.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "You write as if you're an American, not an Israel Firster."

            Your labels are silly. Nobody cares about them but other dupes.

            You might try addressing the point I made if you want to transition from troll to someone who is taken seriously.

        • EarlyBird

          Oh let me guess: "They hate us for our freedoms." Duh.

          • objectivefactsmatter

            "Oh let me guess: "They hate us for our freedoms." Duh."

            More-on, that quote is deadly accurate in reference to those supporting sharia. They hate us for opposing sharia and dhimmitude.

            Not to mention Sayyid Qutb…and his followers. But you know all of this already.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma'alim_fi_al-T

            Just as Sharia is – in Qutb's view – all encompassing and all wonderful, whatever is non-Muslim (or Jahiliyyah) is "evil and corrupt," and its existence anywhere intolerable to true Muslims. "Islam cannot accept or agree to a situation which is half-Islam and half-Jahiliyyah … The mixing and co-existence of the truth and falsehood is impossible." (p. 130) "We will not change our own values and concepts either more or less to make a bargain with this jahili society. Never!" (p. 21) In preaching and promoting Islam, for example, it is very important not to demean Islam by "searching for resemblances" between Islam and the "filth" and "the rubbish heap of the West." (p. 139)
            Western and Jewish Conspiracies
            Qutb asserted that "World Jewry" was and is engaged in conspiracies whose "purpose" is:
            to eliminate all limitations, especially the limitations imposed by faith and religion, so that Jews may penetrate into body politics of the whole world and then may be free to perpetuate their evil designs. At the top of the list of these activities is usury, the aim of which is that all the wealth of mankind end up in the hands of Jewish financial institutions which run on interest. (p.110-111)

            He also alleged that the West had a centuries-long "enmity toward Islam" which led it to create a "well-thought-out scheme … to demolish the structure of Muslim society," (p. 116) At the same time, "the Western world realizes that Western civilization is unable to present any healthy values for the guidance of mankind," (p. 7) and "the American people blush" with shame when confronted with the "immoralities" and "vulgarity" of their own country in comparison with the superiority of Islam's "logic, beauty, humanity and happiness" (p. 139)

    • Rob

      Tell that to the crew of the USS Liberty.

  • southwood

    "No aid reaches the people in Syria who are being butchered by their government – "

    Codswallop ! The majority of slaughters are being carried out by the rebels. How do people get away with this garbage ?

  • Zionist Libertarian

    Check out this video. It’s totally relevant to this article. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed

    • Jozy

      Thanks! Pat Condell is always spot on when it comes to Islam, Israel and the Left.
      Just one thing. This message looks like it could have been put there by a spambot.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      Awesome. Even atheists (with a brain) know how absurd it is to criticize Israeli self-defense.

  • EarlyBird

    I see, because trying to destroy Israel is an act of treason against the United States.

    Perhaps you need a map.

    • objectivefactsmatter

      "I see, because trying to destroy Israel is an act of treason against the United States."

      If it violates the US constitution, laws or national security, then what do you call it?

      If he wants to destroy Israel, he needs to try to do that according to our laws. He's a liar and a tyrant. One of his aims is to appease the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamists by destroying American hegemony. The single biggest symbol of that hegemony is Israel to any indoctrinated Muslims, and even more so the crazy jihadis.

      So what were you saying? Perhaps you need to go beyond third-grade politics. In the USA, that is for 8-year old kids.

      • EarlyBird

        There is an American law forbidding Israel to ever become an enemy of the US? Which one?

        But of course, Obama doesn't want to destroy Israel. He merely wants Israel to stop building settlements in disputed lands, and has put in place crushing sanctions against Iran. Whereas W. Bush's policies enormously strengthened Iran, and he forced Sharon to have the IDF actually pull Israelis off of disputed lands.

        But Bush is hailed as a hero to Israel, while Obama is portrayed as an Al Queda operative by the hateful, bigoted Israel First lobby here in America. Disgraceful.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          "There is an American law forbidding Israel to ever become an enemy of the US? Which one?"

          Learn to read with comprehension.

          "Obama doesn't want to destroy Israel. He merely wants Israel to stop building settlements in disputed lands…"

          Without context that sounds OK. The problem is that you're a complete dupe. The dispute is over security. The settlements bring security, stability and peace. Anyone who opposes them opposes their benefits. There are no pitfalls unless you worship the moon god, or worship those who worship the moon god.

          "…and has put in place crushing sanctions against Iran."

          0'Bama does not plan to crush the sanctions. He just facilitates nullifying them. I know what you meant, but you're simply wrong about the effects and 0'Bama's intentions.

          "Whereas W. Bush's policies enormously strengthened Iran, and he forced Sharon to have the IDF actually pull Israelis off of disputed lands."

          If you want to have an extensive post-op policy analysis discussion, you're going to need to flesh out your theories and be prepared to cite evidence. What you actually wrote is just ridiculous bait and switch debating tactics. Bush was imperfect, therefore 0'Bama must have the same intentions Bush had. That seems to be your logic.

          "But Bush is hailed as a hero to Israel"

          Ho he's not. He's hailed as not being a traitor like 0'Bama, Clinton and Carter to varying degrees. 0'Bama is clearly the worst.

          "while Obama is portrayed as an Al Queda operative…

          That's only because of the facts. But hey, when did facts matter to a leftist dupe troll?

          "" by the hateful, bigoted Israel First lobby here in America."

          Only a traitor like you would expect patriots to love their enemies as their evil plans are in play. Save forgiveness for the aftermath.

          There is no "Israel First" lobby, psycho. When you can show me any position that actually harms the USA, then you might have something to complain about.. You've never even come close because you simply rant about claims made by bigots and liars. Facts matter. They never favor your positions.

  • Ben Cohen

    The diplomats probably objected to seeing decades of their hard work undone by politicians looking to pander to the kind of sub-morons who vote for far right settler parties……Shame on those diplomats!